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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C52AEF.423A5D9E-- From owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Fri Mar 18 08:24:52 2005 Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA06326 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) id 7756D91232; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 42F3691233; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3EB91232 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id EAAEA5828E; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@segue.merit.edu Received: from testbed9.merit.edu (testbed9.merit.edu [198.108.1.10]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D190458288 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) id D4B5D185E; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:43 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@merit.edu Received: from mgw-x3.nokia.com (mgw-x3.nokia.com [131.228.20.26]) by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490BF183B for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from esdks003.ntc.nokia.com (esdks003.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.158]) by mgw-x3.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.8) with ESMTP id j2IDOZb13998; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:24:35 +0200 (EET) X-Scanned: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:39 +0200 Nokia Message Protector V1.3.34 2004121512 - RELEASE Received: (from root@localhost) by esdks003.ntc.nokia.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id j2IDMdNl024062; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:39 +0200 Received: from mgw-int1.ntc.nokia.com (172.21.143.96) by esdks003.ntc.nokia.com 00fKalfg; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:22 EET Received: from esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh002.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.77]) by mgw-int1.ntc.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.8) with ESMTP id j2IDMFM29201; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.21.35.44]) by esebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6881); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:15 +0200 Message-ID: <423AD607.6060201@nokia.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:15 +0200 From: Miguel Garcia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AAA mailing list Cc: Mari Carmen belinchon , Miguel-Angel Pallares , "ext Carolina Canales (ML/EEM)" , Pete McCann , Rajaniemi Jaakko Matti , Tammi Kalle Tapani , "Beck01, Wolfgang" Subject: [AAA-WG]: Diameter SIP application -07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 13:22:15.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[807C4BD0:01C52BBD] Sender: owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I have just requested the publication of version -07 of the Diameter SIP application. This will be published hopefully very soon, but you can get a copy, in the meantime, from: http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-sip-app-07.txt http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-sip-app-07.html This version incorporates all the comments I've got during the second WGLC. For your convienence, I have created a diff document with respect version 06: http://people.nokia.net/~miguel/drafts/draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-sip-app-06-to-07.html The changes that were done, apart from editorial comments, were: o Added Table 3 that includes a summary of all the AVPs defined by this specification are the AVP flags. o Title in Section 5.4 is changed to "SIP Server Requests Authentication and Authorization" o Fixed typo in Section 7.7 that compared MAR with UAR (about storing state). The comparison should have been done with SAR. o Section 8.5 wrongly indicated that the Diameter client could send a SIP-Authenticate AVP. Actually, the Diameter *** server *** is the peer that sends SIP-Authenticate AVPs. o The draft used to speak about "authentication vectors". The terminology has been replaced by "a number of authentication credentials", which is more aligned with HTTP Digest. o On Section 10, a paragraph that used to couple Digest-HA1 with the qop value has been removed: it was a left over from a previous version of the document. I think this completes the WGLC. Thanks to all those who submitted comments. BR, Miguel -- Miguel A. 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From owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Fri Mar 25 04:27:31 2005 Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA03200 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) id 47CDA9132F; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:23 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 0496791332; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:22 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9822A9132F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id 82DCB5829B; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:21 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@segue.merit.edu Received: from testbed9.merit.edu (testbed9.merit.edu [198.108.1.10]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DA75828F for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) id 6B624185E; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:21 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@merit.edu Received: from fmis837.omnitel.it (mailout-2.omnitel.it [194.20.71.226]) by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A9E185B for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from omini93.omnitel.it (omini93.omnitel.it [10.21.18.145]) by fmis837.omnitel.it (Switch-3.0.6/Switch-3.0.0) with ESMTP id j2P9RHJM009719 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:27:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from omimexo06.omnitel.it ([10.21.12.195]) by ominc75.omnitel.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:27:16 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [AAA-WG]: RE: AAA Transport Profile and Application Failure Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:27:16 +0100 Message-ID: <95A9A19987C57D42AA1CF59368CD1CB90823D776@OMIMEXO06.omnitel.it> Thread-Topic: AAA Transport Profile and Application Failure Thread-Index: AcUvrj63KkPY3QF5SJS4rvAaqdu1YwBa58PQ From: "STURA Marco Consultant" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2005 09:27:16.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5CFD520:01C5311C] Sender: owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, some comment in line. Regards Marco -----Original Message----- From: m.hillier@telenet-ag.de [mailto:m.hillier@telenet-ag.de]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:43 PM To: aaa-wg@merit.edu Subject: AAA Transport Profile and Application Failure A question has come up concerning the detection of a failed Diameter application and the consequences for the AAA client. RFC 3588 suggests very strongly that Diameter stacks should be implemented in layers. Accordingly the possibility exists that in a Proxy agent or a server, the Diameter Base protocol handling process is functioning properly but the application process has fallen over. I.e. The Diameter Transport connection is up and the watchdog commands (DWR/DWA) are being sent and received. [MSt] Yes, Diameter stack should be layered and internal communication between layers is left to the implementation. There was an attempt to standardize a basic API, but this was shut down a while ago. I have seen some discussion lately but probably nothing concrete yet. In such a situation and on receipt of a Request from a AAA client, the Base process in the Proxy (or Server) will either not send any response back to the client at all or reply with an error and Result-Code set to DIAMETER_UNABLE_TO_DELIVER, depending on implementation and interpretation of RFC 3588 and RFC 3599. [MSt] A Diameter agent MUST always send an answer back to the client, either success or failed. If the agent is acting as a relay for a request, then the base protocol layer is mainly the one responsible for the full handling of the request. However, if the agent is acting as proxy for a request, the request handling responsibility is typically shared between layers (i.e. base protocol and possibly proxy application). Section 6.1 of RFC 3588 reads: [start fragment] When a message is received, the message is processed in the following order: 1. If the message is destined for the local host, the procedures listed in Section 6.1.4 are followed. 2. If the message is intended for a Diameter peer with whom the local host is able to directly communicate, the procedures listed in Section 6.1.5 are followed. This is known as Request Forwarding. 3. The procedures listed in Section 6.1.6 are followed, which is known as Request Routing. 4. If none of the above is successful, an answer is returned with the Result-Code set to DIAMETER_UNABLE_TO_DELIVER, with the E-bit set. [end fragment] I think a proper implementation would work as follow: - The base protocol layer receives the request. It decides as whether it is acting as proxy or relay for the request (i.e. based on Local Action in the realm routing table). - If the request is to be proxy (i.e. the agent is acting as proxy for the request), the proxy application should process the request by modifying the message according to its policy (e.g. add a Destination-Host to force the request to be routed to a pre-defined destination or other policy specific actions). Hence the base should pass the request to the application layer and, if this one fails, it should answer according to step 4 above. Basically, there should be internal communication between layers in order to detect the failure (i.e. if the proxy application process is down, and this is required for the processing of the request, this should be internally detected and an appropriate answer sent back to the originator of the request). The AAA client is now faced with the situation that every single Request to a peer is failing. Depending on the application and mode of use, an individual Request (e.g. at the start of a Session) can failover to a secondary peer. However there seems to be no mechanism for the client to detect the general failure and thereby suspend the peer and send all future Requests directly to the alternative peer. It seems that this situation can occur both in a Proxy Agent and in a Server. [MSt] See my previous comment. In my example the agent is up and running in relay mode, but perhaps not in proxy mode because the proxy application process is down. Therefore every request for which the agent has to act in proxy mode will possibly be answered with Result-Code DIAMETER_UNABLE_TO_DELIVER. The AAA client receiving such an error, will possibly re-send the request to an alternate peer (and the request may eventually get a successful answer). That's all what the standard says. Then, depending on the degree of complexity of your implementation (but this is up to your implementation I think), the client may decide to stop sending such requests (perhaps for a while) to a peer after a number of failed request with this kind of result-code. Have I miss-understood the mechanisms or even the architecture of a Diameter node? Or is this "out-of-scope" of the RFCs, possibly being "implementation dependent"? 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From owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Fri Mar 25 17:04:44 2005 Received: from trapdoor.merit.edu (trapdoor.merit.edu [198.108.1.26]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA21193 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) id D631591203; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg-outgoing@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix, from userid 56) id 9EE5291341; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@trapdoor.merit.edu Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by trapdoor.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BB991203 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) id C183958291; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@segue.merit.edu Received: from testbed9.merit.edu (testbed9.merit.edu [198.108.1.10]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB59258282 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) id B08B41880; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: aaa-wg@merit.edu Received: from colby.ulticom.com (192-73-206-10.ulticom.com [192.73.206.10]) by testbed9.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D77180C for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pcasveren (pc-asveren.ulticom.com [172.25.33.55]) by colby.ulticom.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j2PM4ZPv018089 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Tolga Asveren" To: Subject: [AAA-WG]: Question about Address AVP syntax encoding in RFC3588 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:52:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.40 Sender: owner-aaa-wg@merit.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was a bit confused about certain Derived AVP encodings. If somebody could clarify or refer to somewhere, I really would appreciate it. RFC3588 4.3 Derived AVP Formats 1)Address RFC talks about "most significant octet" about this AVP. This makes me think, it is encoded numerical, because a number has most/least significant octets but a String doesn't. example: 1.1.1.1 is encoded as: +--------+--------+--------+--------+ |00000001|00000001|00000001|00000001| +--------+--------+--------+--------+ OTOH, just two lines below, we have "The AddressType is used to discriminate the content and format of the remaining octets.". This sentence made me think that it is encodeed as a String -ASCII based-, because it mentions about "format". Which interpretation is correct? 2)Actually this one is just to confirm: ipno in IPFilterRule AVP is encoded as a String (?) 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As you probably know, the Diameter SIP application supports this operational mode where nonces are generated in the Diameter server. it could be possible to have another mode of operation where nonces are generated in the Diameter client (SIP server). Actually, this is the approach that has been taken by the RADIUS HTTP/SIP Digest draft: there are two modes of operation, one where nonces are generated in the RADIUS server; the other where nonces are generated in the RADIUS client. Since Diameter SIP app does not provide one of this modes, it won't be possible to provide a smooth transition or compatibility between RADIUS and Diameter. We have been asked to enhance the Diameter SIP application by adding the mode of operation where nonces are generated in the Diameter client (SIP server). I have been doing an investigation and there is no technical concern why this wouldn't work. The current Diameter SIP app draft does not implement this mode because we never had requirements. But now we have them, and we should do it. So I would be creating a new revision of the draft in the next weeks. If someone has any comment, please do it now. Regards, Miguel -- Miguel A. 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