From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Mon Sep 4 18:38:18 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-1.bmc.com [198.207.223.250]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA07638 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e84MbNV25362; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:37:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id PAA14557 for agentx-list; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA14552 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e84MV7K24682 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13W4mG-0005uE-01; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 00:31:44 +0200 Received: from fock.de (320061250925-0001@[193.159.29.175]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13W4m2-0zdhiKC; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:31:30 +0200 Message-ID: <39B4232A.8080F7D6@fock.de> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 00:33:14 +0200 From: Frank.Fock@t-online.de (Frank Fock) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "agentx@dorothy.bmc.com" Subject: How to detect when to report noSuchInstance error? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320061250925-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, While implementing (and testing) AgentX++ I found a point that has not been discussed in the AgentX specification yet. When a subagent registers a row of a table (let's say ifEntry.1-22.1) at the master and a SNMP request for an instance of a non registered row (e.g., ifIndex.2) comes in, how does the master agent finds out whether it should return noSuchInstance (which would be correct) or noSuchObject (which would be wrong)? Since the master cannot know through the AgentX protocol, that ifIndex is a multi-instance object, and since it cannot ask any subagent about ifIndex.2 (because no subagent has registered for that region) the master agent will have to return a noSuchObject error. Has anyone solved this dilemma? TIA, Frank From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Mon Sep 11 12:31:39 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-2.bmc.com [198.207.223.251]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA06059 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8BGRDX19843; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:27:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA14087 for agentx-list; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA14082 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8BGKL818283 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by wanderer.hardaker.davis.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08776; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:20:48 -0700 To: Matt White Cc: Kevin Lingle , "Ayers, Mike" , Daris A Nevil , Bob Natale , agentx@dorothy.peer.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Regarding Agentx References: From: Wes Hardaker X-URL: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker X-Microsoft: Sucks Organization: U.C.Davis, Information Technology - D.C.A.S. X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 Date: 11 Sep 2000 09:20:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: Matt White's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:46:43 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) XEmacs/21.2 (Shinjuku) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list >>>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:46:43 -0400 (EDT), Matt White said: Matt> * Are you building subagents from scratch or are you instrumenting Matt> already existing code? CMU was built with instrumentation of Matt> already existing code in mind. UCD also works for this purpose, Matt> but Wes keeps saying that he thinks the CMU package might be Matt> better for that and so I'm starting to believe him. Heh. I don't remember saying quite that... I think I was trying to imply that the CMU code is more of an AgentX API which differs from the UCD code which allows the mib-code-writer to not have to know if their code will be used in the SNMP agent directly or in the agentx subagent. It's protocol independent, which can make things easier in some ways as the AgentX (or SNMP) magic is taken care of for you mostly. -- Wes Hardaker Distributed Computing Analysis and Support University of California at Davis From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Tue Sep 12 02:58:51 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-2.bmc.com [198.207.223.251]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA27089 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8C6taW01706; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:55:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id XAA26327 for agentx-list; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA26322 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8C6qo001138 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:52:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from auemail2.firewall.lucent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by auemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17076 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fr0024exch001p.wins.lucent.com (h135-87-76-29.lucent.com [135.87.76.29]) by auemail2.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17038 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FR0024EXCH001P with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:53:21 +0200 Message-ID: <6A88FF1D0761D111BF570000C03DD8F402B90695@FR0024EXCH002U> From: "Grimaud, Philippe (Philippe)" To: agentx@dorothy.peer.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:53:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list unsubscribe Philippe Grimaud Dept: GSM/UMTS E-mail:pgrimaud@lucent.com Phone: +33 (0) 141286954 Fax: +33 (0) 141287299 Lucent Technologies 16 ave Descartes 92352 Le Plessis Robinson, France From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Tue Sep 12 12:43:53 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-1.bmc.com [198.207.223.250]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA08870 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8CGdVv20545; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:39:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA27753 for agentx-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rpresuhn@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA27747; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Presuhn Message-Id: <200009121633.JAA27747@dorothy.bmc.com> To: disman@dorothy.peer.com Subject: "silent" removal from WG mailing list Cc: agentx@dorothy.peer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tattler.bmc.com id e8CGdVv20545 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id MAA08870 Hi - Any suggestions for what the (disman, agentx) mailing list administrator should do in cases like the attached? When traffic bounces, I attempt to notify the postmaster of the relevant domain in order to let them know what's happening. When I drop a subscriber due to bounces, I also notify that domain's postmaster and the WG chair. In cases like this, where mail for a domain's postmaster bounces, is there any further course of action that would be worthwhile? ------------------------------------------------------- Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141 Fax: +1 408 965-0359 2141 North First Street http://www.bmc.com/ San José, California 95131 USA ------------------------------------------------------- My opinions and BMC's are independent variables. ------------------------------------------------------- > From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 12 09:18:28 PDT 2000 > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:24 -0500 (CDT) > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > Message-Id: <200009121618.e8CGIOj13694@tattler.bmc.com> > To: > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > > --e8CGIOj13694.968775504/tattler.bmc.com > > The original message was received at Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:22 -0500 (CDT) > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 550 ... Relaying denied) > > (reason: 550 ... Relaying denied) > > (reason: 550 ... Relaying denied) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to proxy2.cisco.com.: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... Relaying denied > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... Relaying denied > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550 ... Relaying denied > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > --e8CGIOj13694.968775504/tattler.bmc.com > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; tattler.bmc.com > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost > Arrival-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:22 -0500 (CDT) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; postmaster@atl.co.uk > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; proxy2.cisco.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... Relaying denied > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:24 -0500 (CDT) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; aleslie@atl.co.uk > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; proxy2.cisco.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... Relaying denied > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:24 -0500 (CDT) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; EinarNN@atl.co.uk > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Remote-MTA: DNS; proxy2.cisco.com > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... Relaying denied > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:24 -0500 (CDT) > > --e8CGIOj13694.968775504/tattler.bmc.com > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Return-Path: > Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8CGIMj13684; > Tue, 12 Sep 2000 11:18:22 -0500 (CDT) > Received: (from rpresuhn@localhost) > by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA27603; > Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:18:22 -0700 (PDT) > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:18:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Randy Presuhn > Message-Id: <200009121618.JAA27603@dorothy.bmc.com> > To: postmaster@atl.co.uk > Subject: and are bouncing > Cc: EinarNN@atl.co.uk, aleslie@atl.co.uk > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi - > > Mail for and from the > IETF disman working group mailing list is bouncing. See the > attached message for details. If these bounces persist, these > addresses will be dropped from this working group mailing list. > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com > Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141 > Fax: +1 408 965-0359 2141 North First Street > http://www.bmc.com/ San José, California 95131 USA > ------------------------------------------------------- > My opinions and BMC's are independent variables. > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 12 08:58:43 PDT 2000 > > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:58:41 -0500 (CDT) > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > Message-Id: <200009121558.e8CFwfG06570@tattler.bmc.com> > > To: > > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) > > > > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > > > > --e8CFwfG06570.968774321/tattler.bmc.com > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:53 -0500 (CDT) > > from localhost [127.0.0.1] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > (reason: 550 ... Relaying denied) > > > > (reason: 550 ... Relaying denied) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... while talking to proxy2.cisco.com.: > > >>> RCPT To: > > <<< 550 ... Relaying denied > > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > >>> RCPT To: > > <<< 550 ... Relaying denied > > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > > > > --e8CFwfG06570.968774321/tattler.bmc.com > > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; tattler.bmc.com > > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost > > Arrival-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:53 -0500 (CDT) > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; aleslie@atl.co.uk > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.1.1 > > Remote-MTA: DNS; proxy2.cisco.com > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... Relaying denied > > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:49:12 -0500 (CDT) > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; EinarNN@atl.co.uk > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.1.1 > > Remote-MTA: DNS; proxy2.cisco.com > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 ... Relaying denied > > Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:49:12 -0500 (CDT) > > > > --e8CFwfG06570.968774321/tattler.bmc.com > > Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers > > > > Return-Path: > > Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8CFmrG06520; > > Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:48:53 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: (from root@localhost) > > by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id IAA27239 > > for disman-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:44:29 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) > > by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA27234 > > for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:44:25 -0700 (PDT) > > Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > > by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8CFiMK05415 > > for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:44:22 -0500 (CDT) > > Received: from henkell.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (schoenw@henkell [134.169.34.191]) > > by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24797; > > Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:45:10 +0200 (MET DST) > > Received: from schoenw@localhost by henkell.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.7.6/tubsibr) id RAA26326; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:45:10 +0200 > > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:45:10 +0200 > > Message-Id: <200009121545.RAA26326@henkell.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> > > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder > > To: snmpconf@snmp.com > > CC: DISMAN Mailing List > > In-reply-to: <200009072237.SAA29818@aix43.snmp.com> (message from Steve > > Moulton on Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:37:50 -0400) > > Subject: Re: snmpconf Interim Meeting Notes Day Two > > References: <200009072237.SAA29818@aix43.snmp.com> > > Sender: owner-disman@dorothy.peer.com > > Precedence: bulk > > List-Id: IETF disman Working Group mailing list > > > > --e8CFwfG06570.968774321/tattler.bmc.com-- > > > > > > --e8CGIOj13694.968775504/tattler.bmc.com-- > > From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Tue Sep 12 20:30:09 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-2.bmc.com [198.207.223.251]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id UAA15633 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8D0RFl19591; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id RAA08550 for agentx-list; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rpresuhn@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id RAA08544 for agentx@dorothy.bmc.com; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:24:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Presuhn Message-Id: <200009130024.RAA08544@dorothy.bmc.com> To: agentx@dorothy.peer.com Subject: how to unsubscribe from the agentx list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tattler.bmc.com id e8D0RFl19591 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id UAA15633 Hi - > Message-ID: <6A88FF1D0761D111BF570000C03DD8F402B90695@FR0024EXCH002U> > From: "Grimaud, Philippe (Philippe)" > To: agentx@dorothy.bmc.com > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 08:53:14 +0200 > List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list > > > unsubscribe > Philippe Grimaud > Dept: GSM/UMTS E-mail:pgrimaud@lucent.com > Phone: +33 (0) 141286954 Fax: +33 (0) 141287299 > Lucent Technologies 16 ave Descartes 92352 Le Plessis Robinson, France > Sending a message to the mailing list will not change your subscription. The address for administrative requests is agentx-request@dorothy.bmc.com Note well the last paragraph of the notice sent to new subscribers: |Welcome to the mailing list for the IETF AgentX working group. |See http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/agentx-charter.html for |the working group charter, list subscription information, etc. | |This list is for discussion of AgentX working group business |only. Commercial postings, advertisements, job offers, and |so on are inappropriate. | |If you post to this distribution list from an address other |than the one from which you subscribed, there may be some delay |(of minutes to days) while your post goes through our biological |spam filter. | |If you would like to routinely post from addresses other |than your subscription address, contact the list owner at |mailto:agentx-owner@dorothy.bmc.com. | |Requests to be removed from the list should be sent to |mailto:agentx-request@dorothy.bmc.com. ------------------------------------------------------- Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141 Fax: +1 408 965-0359 2141 North First Street http://www.bmc.com/ San José, California 95131 USA ------------------------------------------------------- My opinions and BMC's are independent variables. ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Wed Sep 13 09:37:23 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-1.bmc.com [198.207.223.250]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id JAA07844 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8DDaQJ25947; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id GAA17244 for agentx-list; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA17228; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8DDVDP24835; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:31:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bnatale.acecomm.com (dhcppm9.acec.com [38.249.211.231]) by relay1.acec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15697; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20000913093047.00ac1fc8@plymouth.acec.com> X-Sender: bnatale@plymouth.acec.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:32:51 -0400 To: Randy Presuhn From: Bob Natale Subject: Re: "silent" removal from WG mailing list Cc: disman@dorothy.peer.com, agentx@dorothy.peer.com In-Reply-To: <200009121633.JAA27747@dorothy.bmc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list At 9/12/2000:12:33 PM, Randy Presuhn wrote: Hi Randy, >Any suggestions for what the (disman, agentx) mailing >list administrator should do in cases like the attached? Whatever good-faith fair action involves the least disruption on the list admin's (your!) time. >When traffic bounces, I attempt to notify the postmaster of the >relevant domain in order to let them know what's happening. >When I drop a subscriber due to bounces, I also notify that >domain's postmaster and the WG chair. In cases like this, >where mail for a domain's postmaster bounces, is there any >further course of action that would be worthwhile? I don't think so. Cordially, BobN ------------ ISO 9001 Registered Quality Supplier ----------- Bob Natale | ACE*COMM | 301-721-3000 [v] Dir, Net Mgmt Prod | 704 Quince Orchard Rd | 301-721-3001 [f] bnatale@acecomm.com| Gaithersburg MD 20878 | www.acecomm.com ------------- Free downloads at www.winsnmp.com ------------- From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Mon Sep 25 10:07:20 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-2.bmc.com [198.207.223.251]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA03928 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8PE2Zj11732; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:02:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id GAA21344 for agentx-list; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id GAA21339 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8PDtwa10175 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:55:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bnatale.acecomm.com (dhcppm12.acec.com [38.249.211.234]) by relay1.acec.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26279; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20000925094433.00ac78f8@plymouth.acec.com> X-Sender: bnatale@plymouth.acec.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:58:07 -0400 To: Nurit Sprecher From: Bob Natale Subject: Re: AgentX, SMUX, and SNMPv3 Cc: snmpv3@lists.tislabs.com, agentx@dorothy.peer.com In-Reply-To: <00554D7E32E7D1118A8800805F31D8A3BF992F@tiger.seabridge.co. il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list At 9/24/2000:05:03 AM, Nurit Sprecher wrote: Hi Murit, >1. Can someone please explain me the elationship between >the AgentX protocol and the SMUX protocol ? The AgentX protocol (RFC2741) and MIB (RFC2742) represent the IETF standards-track approach to interoperable extensible SNMP agent environments. You can access these documents, additional information sources, and learn how to subscribe to the AgentX WG e-mail discussion list at: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/agentx-charter.html SMUX (as with DPI) was an earlier attempt at such an SNMP extensible agent protocol that, for a variety of reasons, did not progress toward full IETF standardization. Likewise, there were/are a number of vendor-proprietary extensible SNMP agent methodologies that have achieved some degree, more or less, of marketplace deployment. The current hope is that AgentX will prove to be sufficiently robust and useful to foster wider standardization in this area. >2. Can you please recommend me a ool/implementation for >developing a SNMPV3 agent that support the gentX protocol ? As the AgentX WG chair, I certainly could not recommend any...however, you can find links to known possibilities in the "Implementations" section at the AgentX web site: http://www.scguild.com/agentx/ >Thanks in advance, Nurit. You are welcome...let me know if the above info is insufficient at this time...my recommendation is that further discussion, if any, on this thread be continued on the AgentX mailing list, agentx@dorothy.bmc.com. Cordially, BobN ------------ ISO 9001 Registered Quality Supplier ----------- Bob Natale | ACE*COMM | 301-721-3000 [v] Dir, Net Mgmt Prod | 704 Quince Orchard Rd | 301-721-3001 [f] bnatale@acecomm.com| Gaithersburg MD 20878 | www.acecomm.com ------------- Free downloads at www.winsnmp.com ------------- From owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Mon Sep 25 12:59:17 2000 Received: from tattler.bmc.com (fw-us-hou-2.bmc.com [198.207.223.251]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA08416 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dorothy.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with ESMTP id e8PGvtx25774; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:57:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA22344 for agentx-list; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rpresuhn@localhost) by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) id JAA22337; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Presuhn Message-Id: <200009251656.JAA22337@dorothy.bmc.com> To: agentx@dorothy.peer.com Subject: Fwd: agentx / smux / snmpv3 query Cc: nurit.sprecher@SeabridgeNetworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-agentx@dorothy.peer.com Precedence: bulk List-Id: IETF Agentx Working Group mailing list X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tattler.bmc.com id e8PGvtx25774 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id MAA08416 Hi - I'm forwarding a non-subscriber post to the agentx working group mailing list. subscription information is at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/agentx-charter.html ------------------------------------------------------- Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141 Fax: +1 408 965-0359 2141 North First Street http://www.bmc.com/ San José, California 95131 USA ------------------------------------------------------- My opinions and BMC's are independent variables. ------------------------------------------------------- > Received: from tattler.bmc.com (tattler.bmc.com [172.17.0.117]) > by dorothy.bmc.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_12836)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id CAA18890 > for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 02:18:34 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from fw-us-hou1.bmc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by tattler.bmc.com (8.10.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id e8O9IPQ17763 > for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 04:18:26 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from tiger.seabridge.co.il (tiger.seabridge.co.il [172.30.10.101]) > by warp.seabridge.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00384 > for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:37:53 +0200 > Received: by tiger.seabridge.co.il with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > id ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:17:55 +0200 > Message-ID: <00554D7E32E7D1118A8800805F31D8A3BF9932@tiger.seabridge.co.il> > From: Nurit Sprecher > To: "'agentx@dorothy.bmc.com'" > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:17:54 +0200 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C02610.B426C2E8" > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C02610.B426C2E8 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="windows-1255" > > Hi, > > 1. Can someone please explain me the relationship between the AgentX > protocol and the SMUX protocol ? > > 2. Can you please recommend me a tool/implementation for developing a SNMPV3 > agent that support the AgentX protocol ? > > Thanks in advance, Nurit. > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C02610.B426C2E8 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="windows-1255" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > charset=3Dwindows-1255"> > 5.5.2650.12"> > > > > >

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