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Hi -

The analysis of AgentX protocol in this I-D is incorrect.
The ability to represent an IPv4-specific data type is necessary
to the protocol's operation, and has no bearing whatsover on
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Section 5.091 should be replaced with "There are no IPv4 dependencies
in this protocol."  Section 7.3.26 should state that there are no issues.

Randy

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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:31:07 -0800

Hi -

The analysis of AgentX protocol in this I-D is incorrect.
The ability to represent an IPv4-specific data type is necessary
to the protocol's operation, and has no bearing whatsover on
its ability to represent IPv6 addresses or operate in IPv6
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Section 5.091 should be replaced with "There are no IPv4 dependencies
in this protocol."  Section 7.3.26 should state that there are no issues.

Randy

> From: <Internet-Drafts@ietf.org>
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>
> Title : Survey of IPv4 Addresses in Currently Deployed IETF
>                           Operations & Management Area Standards
> Author(s) : P. Nesser II
> Filename : draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> Pages : 0
> Date : 2003-2-14
>
> This document seeks to document all usage of IPv4 addresses in currently
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Randy,

Thanks.  I will make updates in the -01 version.  The whole goal is
to solicit input from the people who have a much more intimate
knowledge of individual protocols than I do.  It has been a daunting
task and it is hard to fit everything together when you are trying to
digest 900 or so protocol documents.  I really appreciate your time
to read through the document and make your comments.

I am currently taking input from (hopefully) a lot of independent
sources and putting then all together.  

- --->  Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:31 PM
> To: agentx@ietf.org
> Cc: phil@nesser.com
> Subject: AgentX and draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> 
> Hi -
> 
> The analysis of AgentX protocol in this I-D is incorrect.
> The ability to represent an IPv4-specific data type is necessary
> to the protocol's operation, and has no bearing whatsover on
> its ability to represent IPv6 addresses or operate in IPv6
> environments.
> 
> Section 5.091 should be replaced with "There are no IPv4
> dependencies in this protocol."  Section 7.3.26 should state that
> there are no issues.  
> 
> Randy
> 
> > From: <Internet-Drafts@ietf.org>
> > To: <IETF-Announce:>
> > Cc: <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:11 AM
> > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> >
> 
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> > Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working Group of
> > the 
> IETF.
> >
> > Title : Survey of IPv4 Addresses in Currently Deployed IETF
> >                           Operations & Management Area Standards
> > Author(s) : P. Nesser II
> > Filename : draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> > Pages : 0
> > Date : 2003-2-14
> >
> > This document seeks to document all usage of IPv4 addresses in
> > currently deployed IETF Operations & Management Area documented
> > standards.  In 
> order to successfully transition from an all IPv4 Internet to
> an all IPv6 Internet, many interim steps will be taken. One of
> these steps is the evolution of current protocols that have IPv4
> dependencies.  It is hoped that these protocols (and their
> implementations) will be redesigned to be network address
> independent, but failing that will at least dually support IPv4 and
> IPv6.  To this end, all Standards (Full, Draft, and Proposed) as
> well as
> Experimental RFCs will be surveyed and any dependencies will be
> documented.
> >
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-op
> > s- 
> 00.txt
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From: "Philip J. Nesser II" <phil@Nesser.COM>
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Subject: [Agentx] RE: AgentX and draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
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Randy,

Thanks.  I will make updates in the -01 version.  The whole goal is
to solicit input from the people who have a much more intimate
knowledge of individual protocols than I do.  It has been a daunting
task and it is hard to fit everything together when you are trying to
digest 900 or so protocol documents.  I really appreciate your time
to read through the document and make your comments.

I am currently taking input from (hopefully) a lot of independent
sources and putting then all together.  

- --->  Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Presuhn [mailto:randy_presuhn@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:31 PM
> To: agentx@ietf.org
> Cc: phil@nesser.com
> Subject: AgentX and draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> 
> Hi -
> 
> The analysis of AgentX protocol in this I-D is incorrect.
> The ability to represent an IPv4-specific data type is necessary
> to the protocol's operation, and has no bearing whatsover on
> its ability to represent IPv6 addresses or operate in IPv6
> environments.
> 
> Section 5.091 should be replaced with "There are no IPv4
> dependencies in this protocol."  Section 7.3.26 should state that
> there are no issues.  
> 
> Randy
> 
> > From: <Internet-Drafts@ietf.org>
> > To: <IETF-Announce:>
> > Cc: <v6ops@ops.ietf.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:11 AM
> > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> >
> 
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> > Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working Group of
> > the 
> IETF.
> >
> > Title : Survey of IPv4 Addresses in Currently Deployed IETF
> >                           Operations & Management Area Standards
> > Author(s) : P. Nesser II
> > Filename : draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-ops-00.txt
> > Pages : 0
> > Date : 2003-2-14
> >
> > This document seeks to document all usage of IPv4 addresses in
> > currently deployed IETF Operations & Management Area documented
> > standards.  In 
> order to successfully transition from an all IPv4 Internet to
> an all IPv6 Internet, many interim steps will be taken. One of
> these steps is the evolution of current protocols that have IPv4
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> implementations) will be redesigned to be network address
> independent, but failing that will at least dually support IPv4 and
> IPv6.  To this end, all Standards (Full, Draft, and Proposed) as
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> >
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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> > s- 
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