From housley@vigilsec.com Tue Apr 17 10:43:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF07821F8582 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hYbkNvF3gNeb for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BC421F8572 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4067F24024 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C1DzynEPU02j for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (pool-96-255-140-31.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.140.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02339F2401C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:31 -0400 Message-Id: To: antitrust-policy@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [antitrust-policy] Educational Materials X-BeenThere: antitrust-policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discuss the need for an antitrust or competition policy for the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:43:48 -0000 The consensus was to develop educational materials. Isn't Jorge's = presentation a good start? Who is willing to take the pen and create = the first draft of a web page for this purpose? Russ= From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Tue Apr 17 11:12:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEFC21F84DD for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ADYsyJDF4LVU for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F8421F84B2 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagj5 with SMTP id j5so5446527lag.31 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ukNGviy9LSXcZbW7nrHotgw225tFdiaLXc26ACTZdhc=; b=Pz4ixSA/rXiKRUNGjuHemC5IWQs8Iw0oykKtqAeriGEx488L/iShdxLauyoYZ7gwpG YgbW87cAg0bESF1EXIDd8qGcPooHJHRVPFbWhInH2YVD5c8ZeDiqSK5zXnR0fyBNqiA5 dwKcdY22pObl6lgZ7bECC+FQy5yv5Str9ENdx7MqOdsISm5UNqlDvUJZBjw7LjowD6mG esGw6VzLIFDmh2kjJ1TqiDf88Icv8wh7rbBag16z8rd496IZMNp1qD30vJdIZHuH67X+ ahyIVaLv8AgAtsDACatpU78EGLGRonQTykojJCeAUDnJjYhhXgJBjrh1fHzm6xDnCWA6 PrqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.9 with SMTP id gq9mr15019426lab.14.1334686334978; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.46.4 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:12:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: antitrust-policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] Educational Materials X-BeenThere: antitrust-policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discuss the need for an antitrust or competition policy for the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:12:20 -0000 A web page, or an Internet draft (informative, of course) ? Marshall On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > The consensus was to develop educational materials. =A0Isn't Jorge's pres= entation a good start? =A0Who is willing to take the pen and create the fir= st draft of a web page for this purpose? > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > antitrust-policy mailing list > antitrust-policy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/antitrust-policy From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Tue Apr 17 11:18:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4D011E8080 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4DKEvBLqSClI for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7087B11E80A0 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbgc1 with SMTP id c1so573603lbg.31 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sz8OyIhlF4tC78+DrjuHvLPPB6bAJy76+gLju7XgnNA=; b=bO3K6YldYZfyhWbrL5WeEmiNhpKSBpSVHrfwHXjW8n4MWuojffzD565SkpJRXqd92w bXw1UIwxpwtSl9N+OVOpOnyREpbxqMbQtfy+9k0NbEeJ6VUq1MoF625TeqSBhjSDD8hT nB9lOKO/n4bE7d1xpy+TCwKec5GUy6zzZ6Lc2VsuzSk6yUNQNHbs885hTL9VN+oY6IHt 7cIyQ8+Lzdd+ipSKMLzC/kU/hPJaAG0hL474yGJMZ1tzvCbQ8O3pY3SvGfP+pEhjmDRF 9OJg/usFNfKLKE3/lQkdUQQL8irPU/AJo4GL8EYZh1gUnZLcQxoR/7E/XAd9niKrlO1n p7LA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.100.8 with SMTP id eu8mr7790564lbb.16.1334686678414; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.46.4 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:17:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: antitrust-policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] Educational Materials X-BeenThere: antitrust-policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discuss the need for an antitrust or competition policy for the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:18:04 -0000 At any rate, I would be willing to do this, but it will have to wait to next week. If someone else wants to step up, I will be glad to work with you. Regards Marshall On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > The consensus was to develop educational materials. =A0Isn't Jorge's pres= entation a good start? =A0Who is willing to take the pen and create the fir= st draft of a web page for this purpose? > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > antitrust-policy mailing list > antitrust-policy@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/antitrust-policy From housley@vigilsec.com Tue Apr 17 12:17:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: antitrust-policy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4517821F8484 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MZZorfDGwjuS for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3F421F847E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80B1F2402F; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gCp9mgDVVbEx; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (pool-96-255-140-31.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.140.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87B1F24028; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:17:05 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Marshall Eubanks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: antitrust-policy@ietf.org Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] Educational Materials X-BeenThere: antitrust-policy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discuss the need for an antitrust or competition policy for the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:17:11 -0000 Marshall: I tend to think that a web page is the right thing for educational = material. We post EDU Team tutorials on the IETF web site. Of course, = I'm pleased to hear other views. Russ On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > A web page, or an Internet draft (informative, of course) ? >=20 > Marshall >=20 > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Russ Housley = wrote: >> The consensus was to develop educational materials. Isn't Jorge's = presentation a good start? Who is willing to take the pen and create = the first draft of a web page for this purpose? >>=20 >> Russ