From lha at it.su.se Thu Nov 9 13:10:21 2006 From: lha at it.su.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Love_H=F6rnquist_=C5strand?=) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:10:21 -0800 Subject: [anonsec] BTNS summary Message-ID: <54E66E12-347F-42EF-B79F-1285C50F654D@it.su.se> BTNS meet shortly on Monday at IETF67. We had a short update on the problem and statement, it will be WG-LC after the IETF general meeting. The core document describing BTNS is still waiting for the edit since the last IETF. The API document appeared in the first version of the document, the document seem to have the right direction, but needs improvment before its accepted as a working-group document. The editors would like to have contact with application protocol implementors so they can discuss the API. Love From lha at it.su.se Mon Nov 20 07:09:21 2006 From: lha at it.su.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Love_H=F6rnquist_=C5strand?=) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:09:21 +0100 Subject: [anonsec] BTNS minutes from IETF67 Message-ID: <80A72F8B-069C-415B-B21C-C5B85A9FCBD4@it.su.se> Hello, I published the minutes from BTNS meeting at IETF67 on the MMM site about a week ago but forgot to mail it to the mailing list, so I mail the minuts to the list for confirmation of the decisions made at the meeting. The cut-off for corrections are the 27th December, so I would prefer to get any comments well before the holidays. Love BTNS meeting notes These are the minutes for the Better than nothing security (BTNS) working group meeting, held at IETF-67 on Monday, Nov 6, 2006, in San Diego. Thanks to Jeffrey Altman for taking notes on which these minutes are based. Chair: Love Hornquist Astrand * Goals for the meeting - Finish last items on PS/AS and WG-LC it - Core documents are completed and chair will WG-LC them after sending PS/AS to IESG - Discuss the API document and decide direction, editors - Update milestones * Decisions made - Last call PAS and core document after meeting * Action items - Revise the core documents, to be done soon after the meeting. - New version of the API document, given WG input * Current work draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-04.txt draft-ietf-btns-core-01.txt draft-ietf-btns-connection-latching-00.txt draft-ietf-btns-ipsec-apireq-00.txt draft-komu-btns-api-00.txt * Presentation: Discussion on Applicability and Problem statement Joe touch made a short presentation on the resolved issues in version -04 of the pas draft. There are no outstanding issues on the draft and chair will call a WG-LC after the IETF meeting is over. * Presentation: IPsec APIs Michael Richardson made a presentation for the absent Miika Komu about IPsec APIs. Miika proposal for an API design was using a new socket family PF_SHIM, this was generanlly disliked by the room. There was some talk about how to get more feedback from the application implementors. David Black was looking for a speration of roles between the application and the api layer. So that the application can pass down a opaque blob that security experts have banged out all details on. Sam Hartman pointed out that he liked the idea, but it should be an abstraction and not indirection. Ie the blob should describe the whole policy and not just be somelike the the string "iscsi-ipsec-policy". Wayne Dickson talked about TCP vs SA synchronisation and was pointed to the connection latching document. Love will discuss the API draft with Miika Komu and how to get it accepted by the WG. From lha at it.su.se Mon Nov 20 08:12:30 2006 From: lha at it.su.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Love_H=F6rnquist_=C5strand?=) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:12:30 +0100 Subject: [anonsec] WG-LC: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-04 Message-ID: <03E70066-F9F6-492D-A58D-3CD5971CDDF1@it.su.se> Hello To verify the consensus of the wg and catch the the last errors before sending of the document to IESG I'm issuing a WG last call of Problem and Applicability Statement for Better Than Nothing Security (BTNS) http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-btns-prob-and- applic-04.txt I would like to see at least 5 people going on record for having thoroughly reviewed it. The WG-LC will end at the 4th december (two weeks from now). Love From hartmans-ietf at mit.edu Tue Nov 21 11:10:32 2006 From: hartmans-ietf at mit.edu (Sam Hartman) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:10:32 -0500 Subject: [anonsec] Seeking Second co-chair for BTNS working Group Message-ID: Hi, folks. Love H?rnqvist?strand and I are searching for a second chair for the Better than Nothing Security group. Love is doing a fine job, but has asked for some help. Also, it is generally best if working groups have two chairs. I'd like to ask people to volunteer to be considered as BTNS co-chair. Please send a note expressing your interest and discussing qualifications to Russ and I by December 7, 2006. I will be discussing details of applicants with Love and Russ. Chairs should have the following qualifications: * Familiarity and experience with the IETF process either as an author or chair. * Interest in the BTNS working group's work areas. * Familiarity with IPsec. * Willingness to dedicate at least 3 hours a week to the working group. Thanks, --Sam