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You may have seen this already, but to make sure:
The code sprint has been moved to the Terminal Room, Lotus I & II, so we =
will have working wired network connections while sprinting.

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Hi,

I think the food for the codesprint room is being provisioned by the =
number of registered sprinters. This time, we have a bunch of folks here =
who are using the room for some other meeting. While that's fine, we've =
run out of food, since they obviously didn't sign up for the sprint...

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On 2010-11-3, at 0:34, Robert Sparks wrote:
> The code sprint has been moved to the Terminal Room, Lotus I & II

Oh. So that's why these other folks are here.

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Update: Alexa was here and they are now bringing more hot food. Thanks!=20=



On 2010-11-6, at 12:49, Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo) wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> I think the food for the codesprint room is being provisioned by the =
number of registered sprinters. This time, we have a bunch of folks here =
who are using the room for some other meeting. While that's fine, we've =
run out of food, since they obviously didn't sign up for the sprint...
>=20
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Lars -

I saw your email and forwarded it to them.  Nobody from AMS but myself
is on this list.  So, for food, catch them on IM, or send an email to
mtd@ietf.org (Meeting Trouble Desk.)  :-)

Hope you guys are well....

Glen

On 11/5/2010 10:38 PM, Lars Eggert wrote:
> Update: Alexa was here and they are now bringing more hot food. Thanks! 
> 
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> On 2010-11-6, at 12:49, Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo) wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> I think the food for the codesprint room is being provisioned by the number of registered sprinters. This time, we have a bunch of folks here who are using the room for some other meeting. While that's fine, we've run out of food, since they obviously didn't sign up for the sprint...
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Hi,

I've now merged all the commits from today -- please go to this URL
and verify that your stuff works as exepcted.

  http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31417/

I expect to do a release of the current code later today.


Best,

	Henrik

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Hey everyone,

  Does anyone know how to encourage a web browser (I'm testing with
Firefox) to validate the etag when clicking on a page?

  I've set USE_ETAGS=True in settings.py, which causes django to
create an etag for each page - and this works fine - here is Firefox
prefetching the history tab for a document:

GET /doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/ HTTP/1.1
Host: merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US;
rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 115
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/
X-Moz: prefetch
Cookie: sessionid=6d82210d7761d52315fd2319be54a5e7

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: WSGIServer/0.1 Python/2.6.6
Content-Length: 12210
Content-Encoding: gzip
Vary: Accept-Encoding, Cookie
Etag: "b33787a30797c25bd3c18f8d1d863ba4"
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 06:36:59 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

However, I clicked on a direct link to the same URL, and Firefox
requested it again, without using If-None-Match:


GET /doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/ HTTP/1.1
Host: merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US;
rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12
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Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
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Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/
Cookie: sessionid=6d82210d7761d52315fd2319be54a5e7

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: WSGIServer/0.1 Python/2.6.6
Content-Length: 12210
Content-Encoding: gzip
Vary: Accept-Encoding, Cookie
Etag: "ba02420d1da3a92ad8f80ce148edb72f"
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 06:37:23 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


I also tried adding "Cache-control: private" headers, to try to
encourage Firefox to cache it, but that didn't help.  It does work for
the static files:

GET /css/base2.css HTTP/1.1
Host: merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US;
rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12
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Cookie: sessionid=6d82210d7761d52315fd2319be54a5e7
If-None-Match: "b73424ca331305280f9937208d73f862"

HTTP/1.0 304 NOT MODIFIED
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 06:37:24 GMT
Server: WSGIServer/0.1 Python/2.6.6
Content-Length: 0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


I realize that the fact that the Etag varies here is going to be a
problem (it's because the Etag is calculated after the gzip), but this
is a separate problem.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
  Bill

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Bill,

you may want to test with redbot, see

 
<http://redbot.org/?uri=http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/>

Also...
>
> I realize that the fact that the Etag varies here is going to be a
> problem (it's because the Etag is calculated after the gzip), but this
> is a separate problem.
>

...the etag is *supposed* to be different across varying 
content-encodings...

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On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:

> Bill,
>=20
> you may want to test with redbot, see
>=20
> <http://redbot.org/?uri=3Dhttp://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-iet=
f-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/>
>=20
> Also...
>>=20
>> I realize that the fact that the Etag varies here is going to be a
>> problem (it's because the Etag is calculated after the gzip), but this
>> is a separate problem.
>>=20
>=20
> ...the etag is *supposed* to be different across varying content-encodings=
...

Yes, of course, but in this case it varies with the same encoding (because w=
e are just using an md5 of the returned data, and the metadata in the gzip h=
eader is varying, even though the page contents are the same).

Thanks for the redbot pointer!

  Bill


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On 07.11.2010 11:17, Bill Fenner wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Julian Reschke<julian.reschke@gmx.de>  wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> you may want to test with redbot, see
>>
>> <http://redbot.org/?uri=http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/>
>>
>> Also...
>>>
>>> I realize that the fact that the Etag varies here is going to be a
>>> problem (it's because the Etag is calculated after the gzip), but this
>>> is a separate problem.
>>>
>>
>> ...the etag is *supposed* to be different across varying content-encodings...
>
> Yes, of course, but in this case it varies with the same encoding (because we are just using an md5 of the returned data, and the metadata in the gzip header is varying, even though the page contents are the same).
>
> Thanks for the redbot pointer!

Um, if the payload changes the (strong) etag needs to change as well, right?

So *why* is the metadata in the gzip header changing?

Best regards, Julian

(greetings to Bejing!)

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On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrot=
e:
> On 07.11.2010 11:17, Bill Fenner wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Julian Reschke<julian.reschke@gmx.de> =A0wro=
te:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> you may want to test with redbot, see
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://redbot.org/?uri=3Dhttp://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31415/doc/draft-=
ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-redirect/history/>
>>>
>>> Also...
>>>>
>>>> I realize that the fact that the Etag varies here is going to be a
>>>> problem (it's because the Etag is calculated after the gzip), but this
>>>> is a separate problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...the etag is *supposed* to be different across varying
>>> content-encodings...
>>
>> Yes, of course, but in this case it varies with the same encoding (becau=
se
>> we are just using an md5 of the returned data, and the metadata in the g=
zip
>> header is varying, even though the page contents are the same).
>>
>> Thanks for the redbot pointer!
>
> Um, if the payload changes the (strong) etag needs to change as well, rig=
ht?

The data that you get as a result of decompressing the payload does
not change.  The bits in the stream that are different are thrown away
while decompressing.

> So *why* is the metadata in the gzip header changing?

The gzip encoder follows the "If the compressed data did not come from
a file..." part of the spec:

         MTIME (Modification TIME)
            This gives the most recent modification time of the original
            file being compressed.  The time is in Unix format, i.e.,
            seconds since 00:00:00 GMT, Jan.  1, 1970.  (Note that this
            may cause problems for MS-DOS and other systems that use
            local rather than Universal time.)  If the compressed data
            did not come from a file, MTIME is set to the time at which
            compression started.  MTIME =3D 0 means no time stamp is
            available.

so each time you get a gzip stream you get a different MTIME.

> (greetings to Bejing!)

(greetings from Beijing!)

  Bill

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On 07.11.2010 12:35, Bill Fenner wrote:
> ...
>> Um, if the payload changes the (strong) etag needs to change as well, right?
>
> The data that you get as a result of decompressing the payload does
> not change.  The bits in the stream that are different are thrown away
> while decompressing.
> ...

But it's still payload (from HTTP's point of view, so a strong etag 
needs to change).

>> So *why* is the metadata in the gzip header changing?
>
> The gzip encoder follows the "If the compressed data did not come from
> a file..." part of the spec:
>
>           MTIME (Modification TIME)
>              This gives the most recent modification time of the original
>              file being compressed.  The time is in Unix format, i.e.,
>              seconds since 00:00:00 GMT, Jan.  1, 1970.  (Note that this
>              may cause problems for MS-DOS and other systems that use
>              local rather than Universal time.)  If the compressed data
>              did not come from a file, MTIME is set to the time at which
>              compression started.  MTIME = 0 means no time stamp is
>              available.
>
> so each time you get a gzip stream you get a different MTIME.

It appears to me that you really need to force the encoder not to change 
the date.

I wonder this is a common problem? Does mod_gzip do this as well?

Best regards, Julian

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> On 07/11/2010, at 10:42 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>
>> It appears to me that you really need to force the encoder not to change the date.
>>
>> I wonder this is a common problem? Does mod_gzip do this as well?
>
>
> Somewhat; most implementations IME will work around it, but people rolling their own usually don't.

Unfortunately, django uses the python gzip library, which
unconditionally uses the current time in the header:

        self.fileobj.write(chr(flags))
        write32u(self.fileobj, long(time.time()))
        self.fileobj.write('\002')

so we need to create our own gzip and patch django to use it.

I don't have any experience with mod_gzip and dynamic content, so
can't comment on what it does.

  Bill

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Tools Team -

Please forgive the crossposting, but this is urgent.

We are getting reports that I-D-Announcements are not going out
correctly to the list.

One complainant indicated that the MIME headers were going out
malformed.  Other evidence suggests that some digest readers are getting
the digests, but individual list subscribers are getting no mail, or
blank mail, or invalid mail.

The old ID Submission Tool uses "NextPart" as a MIME boundary, which is
obviously very bad... but it has been doing that for the past 3+ years
with no problem.

Mailman has also been correctly handling those things for several years,
also with no problem.

The only thing which has changed in the processing chain recently is
that the Django Datatracker is now handling the processing of "Send
Scheduled Announcements" via this cron job:

*/15 * * * *    /a/www/ietf-datatracker/web/ietf/bin/send-scheduled-mail all

We implemented that change during the upload blackout before the IETF
meeting; all announcements since uploading reopened yesterday appear to
be problematic.

This is the reason I'm contacting these lists.  If someone could have a
look at this quickly, and determine what needs to be fixed, that would
be very helpful.

Thank you,
Glen


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Further analysis shows that the I-D-Announcements, which are being sent
through the datatracker, are having their Content-type header case-squashed.

So the MIME boundary used by the current IDST is "NextPart".  But the
headers going out since we started using the datatracker sender are
squashed to "nextpart".  As a result, the NextPart boundaries are not
being recognized, and the message is going out with incorrect formatting.

More to follow!

Glen

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Let's try that again, shall we?  Thunderbird preselected the wrong address.

On 11/8/2010 5:43 PM, Glen Barney wrote:
> Further analysis shows that the I-D-Announcements, which are being sent
> through the datatracker, are having their Content-type header case-squashed.

As an emergency fix attempt, I have patched this file:
	ietf-datatracker/web/ietf/announcements/send_scheduled.py

I am going to monitor the next transmissions to see if this fixes anything.

More to follow,
Glen


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All -

I have been unable to contact the Tools Team (they are probably all in
sessions right now!), so I put in a very unorthodox live patch to the
live datatracker, and that appears to have fixed the problem with broken
announcements.

To ensure that everyone receives everything, I am going to requeue all
the draft announcements that went out today.  I will continue to monitor
this, and will send a report to the tools team to let them know what I did.

Thank you all for your patience with this matter.

Glen
Glen Barney
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AMS (IETF Secretariat)

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On 07/11/2010, at 10:42 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:

> It appears to me that you really need to force the encoder not to =
change the date.
>=20
> I wonder this is a common problem? Does mod_gzip do this as well?


Somewhat; most implementations IME will work around it, but people =
rolling their own usually don't.


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This might be useful, although it's been a while since I've used it:

def _gzip_body(i):
    "an ugly hack to make sure gzip file doesn't have time embedded"
    tmptime =3D time.time
    time.time =3D lambda a =3D None:0
    sb =3D cStringIO.StringIO()
    gb =3D gzip.GzipFile(mode=3D'wb', fileobj=3Dsb, compresslevel=3D2)
    gb.write(i)
    gb.close()
    time.time =3D tmptime
    sb.seek(0)
    o =3D sb.read()
    sb.close()
    return o


On 07/11/2010, at 11:05 PM, Bill Fenner wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> On 07/11/2010, at 10:42 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>=20
>>> It appears to me that you really need to force the encoder not to =
change the date.
>>>=20
>>> I wonder this is a common problem? Does mod_gzip do this as well?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Somewhat; most implementations IME will work around it, but people =
rolling their own usually don't.
>=20
> Unfortunately, django uses the python gzip library, which
> unconditionally uses the current time in the header:
>=20
>        self.fileobj.write(chr(flags))
>        write32u(self.fileobj, long(time.time()))
>        self.fileobj.write('\002')
>=20
> so we need to create our own gzip and patch django to use it.
>=20
> I don't have any experience with mod_gzip and dynamic content, so
> can't comment on what it does.
>=20
>  Bill

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All -

An emergency patch has been applied to the live datatracker.  This is a
report on that patch.

We received reports today that Internet Draft announcements were not
being received by people.  Specifically, many people in regular
single-message-delivery mode were not receiving the email; however,
digest readers were receiving it.  One person reported that MIME headers
appeared to be malformed.

Nothing had changed on the AMS end since this was working.  The old ID
Submission Tool was not modified (except for a reopening-time patch,
which was not related), and mailman, postfix, and other MTA chain tools
were not modified.

What had changed, however, was that we were now processing scheduled
announcements through the datatracker.  I attempted to find Henrik, but
he was unavailable.  I did reach Robert Sparks, but he had not been
involved in this change.

I investigated backup copies of the messages on the server.  I found
that the Content-type header was being squashed to lowercase.  This was
causing the IDST "NextPart" boundary to be squashed in the header to
"nextpart".  This, in turn, was causing many MTAs (and MUAs) to fail to
receive and/or parse the message because of the malformed headers and
MIME structure.

Armed with this information I dove into the datatracker code.  I traced
things down to the following file:

	web/ietf/announcements/send_scheduled.py

Line 16 said this:
    content_type = announcement.content_type.lower()

I changed it to this:
    content_type = announcement.content_type

That was to fix the squashing, but I also noticed that later code
depended on that squashing:

Line 20 said this:
    elif 'multipart' in content_type:

Since the IDST injects records into the database with a Content Type of
"Multipart/Mixed" (instead of "multipart/mixed"), I changed it to this:
    elif 'ultipart' in content_type:

(I just removed the "M" from the test).

These two changes allowed I-D announcements to go through and be
processed and received correctly.  I then went in and requeued all the
sent mail in the database from November 1 onward, and all those messages
did subsequently get processed correctly.

Doubtless someone will want to go in and do a cleaner correction for
this problem - I was acting without Henrik's guidance on an emergency
basis, just to get those announcements fixed and flowing again.

Hopefully this information will facilitate a fix for the next update.
Sorry if I treaded on toes here but as I'm sure you understand, "In an
emergency, anything goes."  Please let me know if further information is
needed.

Thanks,
Glen

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  On 11/8/2010 9:31 PM, Glen Barney wrote:
> ... What had changed, however, was that we were now processing scheduled
> announcements through the datatracker.  I attempted to find Henrik, but
> he was unavailable.  I did reach Robert Sparks, but he had not been
> involved in this change.
I'm not sure who was involved in that change.Armed with this information 
I dove into the datatracker code.
> I traced things down to the following file:
>
> 	web/ietf/announcements/send_scheduled.py
>
> Line 16 said this:
>      content_type = announcement.content_type.lower()
>
> I changed it to this:
>      content_type = announcement.content_type
>
> That was to fix the squashing, but I also noticed that later code
> depended on that squashing:
>
> Line 20 said this:
>      elif 'multipart' in content_type:
>
> Since the IDST injects records into the database with a Content Type of
> "Multipart/Mixed" (instead of "multipart/mixed"), I changed it to this:
>      elif 'ultipart' in content_type:
>
> (I just removed the "M" from the test).
Your fix appears totally correct. Nit: I'm wondering if a better fix 
would be

     elif 'multipart/' in content_type.lower()
> These two changes allowed I-D announcements to go through and be
> processed and received correctly.  I then went in and requeued all the
> sent mail in the database from November 1 onward, and all those messages
> did subsequently get processed correctly.
>
> Doubtless someone will want to go in and do a cleaner correction for
> this problem - I was acting without Henrik's guidance on an emergency
> basis, just to get those announcements fixed and flowing again.
>
> Hopefully this information will facilitate a fix for the next update.
> Sorry if I treaded on toes here but as I'm sure you understand, "In an
> emergency, anything goes."  Please let me know if further information is
> needed.

Thanks for tracking the problem down Glen.

     Tony

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On 11/8/2010 7:06 PM, Tony Hansen wrote:
> Your fix appears totally correct. Nit: I'm wondering if a better fix
> would be
>     elif 'multipart/' in content_type.lower()

I like that one better, yes.  I'll let Henrik figure out what he wants
to do with that.  :-)  Now that it's working, I don't want to touch it.  :-)

> Thanks for tracking the problem down Glen.
>     Tony

And thank you for the check!  :-)

Glen

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Hi Glen,

I'll start looking at this at once.

Best,

	Henrik

On 2010-11-09 09:20 Glen Barney said the following:
> Tools Team -
> 
> Please forgive the crossposting, but this is urgent.
>
> We are getting reports that I-D-Announcements are not going out
> correctly to the list.
> 
> One complainant indicated that the MIME headers were going out
> malformed.  Other evidence suggests that some digest readers are getting
> the digests, but individual list subscribers are getting no mail, or
> blank mail, or invalid mail.
> 
> The old ID Submission Tool uses "NextPart" as a MIME boundary, which is
> obviously very bad... but it has been doing that for the past 3+ years
> with no problem.
> 
> Mailman has also been correctly handling those things for several years,
> also with no problem.
> 
> The only thing which has changed in the processing chain recently is
> that the Django Datatracker is now handling the processing of "Send
> Scheduled Announcements" via this cron job:
> 
> */15 * * * *    /a/www/ietf-datatracker/web/ietf/bin/send-scheduled-mail all
> 
> We implemented that change during the upload blackout before the IETF
> meeting; all announcements since uploading reopened yesterday appear to
> be problematic.
> 
> This is the reason I'm contacting these lists.  If someone could have a
> look at this quickly, and determine what needs to be fixed, that would
> be very helpful.
> 
> Thank you,
> Glen
> 
> 

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Hi,

This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, 
v3.09, generated when running the mkrelease script.

Release notes:

ietfdb (3.09)
  From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com: 
  * Added the last call e-mail event to the draft history page. 
  * Added a search function for drafts on their respective mailing lists.
    Fixes issue #458.
  From adam@nostrum.com: 
  * Added tarfile and pdf-composite links and functionality to download
    working group documents from the agenda page. Fixes #539
  From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com: 
  * Added column 'IPR' to documnet table for WG docs and by AD docs, and also
    in search results. Fixes issue #497.
  From kivinen@iki.fi: 
  * Make the idea of what is 'soon' and 'new' in the I-D and RFC lists
    configurable.
  From lars.eggert@nokia.com: 
  * Fix for #467: History tab: Avoid HTTP/HTTPS warning for the diff tool form
    submission.
  * Fix for #456: Make it possible for an IESG member to add a comment (for
    the document history) in the 'change document state' dialog
  * Fix for #537: Remove redundant "by" info from doc history text.
  * Fix for #525. Adds more information to the document history tab,
    specifically changes to writeup, announcement and last-call text.
  * Fix for #372. Makes the position editing form display the name of the
    document being edited.
  * Fix for #526 and #530: Change the format of the notification email sent
    out when an AD posts a ballot position on a draft, it by default CCs that
    email to the authors and chairs, and adds some explanatory text to the body
    of those messages. 
  From rjsparks@nostrum.com: 
  * Changed the language used in the last call email to be closer to the
    language the tracker uses when no IPR declarations are found directly on the
    draft. Fixes #506
  * Retained search results on login. Fixes #482.
  * Added filename to the subject of Protocol Action and Document Action email
    messages (and fixed a bug that was preventing CC/BCC from being honored).
    Fixes issue #528.
  From fenner@fenron.net: 
  * Split the /doc/ tabs into separate pages. This fixes #533. (Eventually,
    this will use <link rel=prefetch> to ask the tabs to be prefetched when the
    first tab is loaded, as documented at
    https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Link_prefetching_FAQ, but as there is some
    issues with this which haven't been fully resolved, the prefetch part is not
    part of this release.)
  * Fill in the X-IETF-IDTracker header with the I-D Tracker version number.
    This fixes #513
  * Added support for admin site documentation 
  From henrik@levkowetz.com:
  * Updated IESG Agenda Section 3.3 title
  * Added fix for announcement email multipart bug, in part contributed
    by glen@amsl.com and tony@att.com.
  * Other minor fixes

The new version is available through SVN checkout, with
  'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/3.09'

Regards,

	Henrik
	(via the mkrelease script)


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Installed and deployed!

Glen

On 11/9/2010 1:43 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is an automatic notification about a new datatracker release, 
> v3.09, generated when running the mkrelease script.
> 
> Release notes:
> 
> ietfdb (3.09)
>   From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com: 
>   * Added the last call e-mail event to the draft history page. 
>   * Added a search function for drafts on their respective mailing lists.
>     Fixes issue #458.
>   From adam@nostrum.com: 
>   * Added tarfile and pdf-composite links and functionality to download
>     working group documents from the agenda page. Fixes #539
>   From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com: 
>   * Added column 'IPR' to documnet table for WG docs and by AD docs, and also
>     in search results. Fixes issue #497.
>   From kivinen@iki.fi: 
>   * Make the idea of what is 'soon' and 'new' in the I-D and RFC lists
>     configurable.
>   From lars.eggert@nokia.com: 
>   * Fix for #467: History tab: Avoid HTTP/HTTPS warning for the diff tool form
>     submission.
>   * Fix for #456: Make it possible for an IESG member to add a comment (for
>     the document history) in the 'change document state' dialog
>   * Fix for #537: Remove redundant "by" info from doc history text.
>   * Fix for #525. Adds more information to the document history tab,
>     specifically changes to writeup, announcement and last-call text.
>   * Fix for #372. Makes the position editing form display the name of the
>     document being edited.
>   * Fix for #526 and #530: Change the format of the notification email sent
>     out when an AD posts a ballot position on a draft, it by default CCs that
>     email to the authors and chairs, and adds some explanatory text to the body
>     of those messages. 
>   From rjsparks@nostrum.com: 
>   * Changed the language used in the last call email to be closer to the
>     language the tracker uses when no IPR declarations are found directly on the
>     draft. Fixes #506
>   * Retained search results on login. Fixes #482.
>   * Added filename to the subject of Protocol Action and Document Action email
>     messages (and fixed a bug that was preventing CC/BCC from being honored).
>     Fixes issue #528.
>   From fenner@fenron.net: 
>   * Split the /doc/ tabs into separate pages. This fixes #533. (Eventually,
>     this will use <link rel=prefetch> to ask the tabs to be prefetched when the
>     first tab is loaded, as documented at
>     https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Link_prefetching_FAQ, but as there is some
>     issues with this which haven't been fully resolved, the prefetch part is not
>     part of this release.)
>   * Fill in the X-IETF-IDTracker header with the I-D Tracker version number.
>     This fixes #513
>   * Added support for admin site documentation 
>   From henrik@levkowetz.com:
>   * Updated IESG Agenda Section 3.3 title
>   * Added fix for announcement email multipart bug, in part contributed
>     by glen@amsl.com and tony@att.com.
>   * Other minor fixes
> 
> The new version is available through SVN checkout, with
>   'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/ietfdb/tags/3.09'
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Henrik
> 	(via the mkrelease script)
> 

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Hi,


As it's much easier to merge new code against the current trunk when
the new code is derived from a recent version, with no other changes
merged in after the branch point; and as we need to fix some things
in the recent release, I'm going to make a new set of branches for
all the folks who signed up for the IETF-79 sprint.  If anybody else
wants a branch based on today's 3.09 release, please let me know.

Best,

	Henrik
