From nobody Tue Oct 1 02:55:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003C812001A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 02:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.821 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f7phW8HBh4Lu for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 02:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8D7120125 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 02:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3A822417; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 05:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 05:55:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=4Xj3t+s7QbY1C5Kg1m49HyBf7vIjX +gj8j2pJCL+lmE=; b=w6gCFt24FGvxej15tTvt6HNvo0igQQkGusGPVE+zXTdNa Ozga+sOEIHj7P4OI8uupiwk5IBgeSCWWlXiF58PdGByQ/mIOjEERtC+D+PGBSc/y kddC6WmbsYkQH/Lgt+2O1V+F9yzrK46uviRAC7UqjsXzgpGOoxGYeW/H8odryr6M FQC3NQ5+lz1Exl2lRYarsijp2h3ZCTPN2qsCp5XOGwT0G4WK/sEN2FVekhDorH4u p2jCkns3rNbYMsJr7+puiAE8pasyKmeDeqxZ7qlajKKOkYt7wPWLk/IyLY4KCklt 9zAhjqvthByURJar5idnw/lhfBV0zKseatkXhw7DQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrgeeggddvtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpeffhffvuffkgggtuggfsehttdertddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeflrghimhgvucfl ihhmrohnvgiiuceojhgrihhmvgesihhkihdrfhhiqeenucffohhmrghinhepihgvthhfrd horhhgnecukfhppedvuddvrdehtddrudefkedrudeknecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhr ohhmpehjrghimhgvsehikhhirdhfihenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from EMB-918HFH01 (unknown [212.50.138.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 740D080061; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 05:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 12:55:20 +0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?Jaime=20Jim=C3=A9nez?= To: CoRE WG Message-ID: <20191001095519.gydnikotwhnpvaem@EMB-918HFH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Archived-At: Subject: [core] [pthubert@cisco.com: [lp-wan] feedback on SCHC CoAP] X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:55:26 -0000 Forwarding this in the CoRE mailing list, lp-wan group wants to document SCHC CoAP implementations. Ciao! -- Jaime ----- Forwarded message from "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" ----- Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:44:48 +0000 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: lp-wan Cc: "lpwan-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-lpwan-ipv6-coap-context-hc@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-lpwan-ipv6-static-context-hc@ietf.org" Subject: [lp-wan] feedback on SCHC CoAP Dear all : We are looking for feedback on SCHC COAP for the publication process. Authors: please confirm that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why. If you are not aware of any such IPR please answer with "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" .. All: IF you are aware of IPR concerning the draft that is not posted at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc please let the chairs know ,- there is no IPR reported as of today. All: If you are aware of implementations, please let us know which and whether it is open source or vendor. Many thanks in advance; The chairs _______________________________________________ lp-wan mailing list lp-wan@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lp-wan ----- End forwarded message ----- From nobody Wed Oct 2 05:46:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730DE120045 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 05:46:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UKFto9G5q2SJ for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F3E712000F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 05:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.159.97.60] (ewa_guest_internet_sthlm_nat2.ericsson.net [192.176.1.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46jwr06J9mzywV; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <63A7A476-BE7E-4112-A69D-CF87B39E3F22@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:46:40 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 591713198.468212-54489ac734e5dedb0b2da68e7b82e895 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9986B51B-731C-4373-AFB8-7A0EAF9ADD09@tzi.org> References: <880105127.785171559138207866.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd101.webex.com> <63A7A476-BE7E-4112-A69D-CF87B39E3F22@tzi.org> To: core X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] With agenda: Webex meeting info: CoRE Virtual Interim X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 12:46:45 -0000 The meeting details for the CoRE Virtual Interim that starts later today = at 1500Z haven=E2=80=99t changed from last time; see below for = reference. =20 I did it again: got distracted by the OneDM meeting I=E2=80=99m at right = now. Should have posted agenda yesterday. So far I have: Agenda: 1455Z..1500Z: (Pre-meeting: Can you hear me now, 2019 edition) 1500Z..1510Z: Agenda bashing Document status: * draft-ietf-core-multipart-ct-04 (RFC editor queue) * draft-ietf-core-resource-directory-23 (AD evaluation, continued) * draft-ietf-core-senml-etch-05 (In IESG, 2 DISCUSSes) * draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-05 (Waiting for [AD] Writeup, OPSDIR review = =E2=80=94 see below) * draft-ietf-core-echo-request-tag-07 (post-WGLC processing, = Francesca=E2=80=99s review to be addressed) * draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units (in WGLC until 2019-10-09) 1510Z..1525Z: OPSDIR review of hop-limit: Does the =E2=80=9Cintended usage=E2=80=9D of hop-limit-05 indeed reflect = the WG consensus? 1525Z++: CORECONF status? 1525Z++: CoAP SCHC status/tutorial? 1630Z..1630Z: AOB? Etherpad for minutes: = https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-20191002-core (Unfortunately, Michael Koster cannot be there to discuss Pubsub.) We probably should spend some time on pubsub in the next two interims. Other big subjects for the next two interims: =E2=80=94 group communications =E2=80=94 CoRAL We also need to progress draft-ietf-core-stateless ASAP (waiting for = submission of -02). Anything else for this meeting? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > Virtual Interim > Hosted by CORE Working Group >=20 > Wednesday, 02 Oct, 2019 15:00 | 1 hour 30 minutes | (UTC+00:00) = Monrovia, Reykjavik > Occurs every 2 week(s) on Wednesday effective 5/29/2019 until = 11/13/2019 from 3:00 PM to 4:30 PM, (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik > Meeting number: 648 636 609 > Password: constrained > = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm4f01e31ccd50d241bcf796aed4bf46d4= >=20 > Join by phone > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 648 636 609 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core From nobody Wed Oct 2 08:47:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A3D1200B9; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K6q-Pf3TfZF7; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93FA6120144; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 08:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.159.97.60] (ewa_guest_internet_sthlm_nat2.ericsson.net [192.176.1.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46k0rm5CgNzylN; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 17:47:36 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <30446701-ADE2-4231-A987-CB6AE906A3E8@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 17:47:36 +0200 Cc: "draft-ietf-core-hop-limit.all@ietf.org" , "ops-dir@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "core@ietf.org" , =?utf-8?Q?Jaime_Jim=C3=A9nez?= X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 591724054.246031-42719a038687dc86d0ee76d14608a5c3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <32D7B28B-682A-4EAC-80D3-2CF15D2BE4FE@tzi.org> References: <156954173082.31982.2465512704956520690@ietfa.amsl.com> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330313276CF@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <20190927114946.igkh7f3evmclwt4p@EMB-918HFH01> <30446701-ADE2-4231-A987-CB6AE906A3E8@tzi.org> To: "Scott O. Bradner" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-05 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:47:41 -0000 On Sep 27, 2019, at 14:24, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > The other question was why the hop-limit option isn=E2=80=99t made = mandatory. Med has already pointed out that the text of the draft does = recommend its use in specific situations (i.e., where proxies are = involved). The transition strategy is somewhat mild, as proxies today = don=E2=80=99t know the option, so its interpretation by a receiving = instance is elective (i.e., not critical). > Application domains that do make use of complicated proxying = structures (which is not the norm today for CoAP), such as DOTS, might = make more stringent requirements. Generally, we don=E2=80=99t use = =E2=80=9Cupdates=E2=80=9D for specifications that merely exercise an = extension point, so I don=E2=80=99t think hop-limit =E2=80=9Cupdates=E2=80= =9D RFC 7252, but the =E2=80=9Cupdates=E2=80=9D label is in active = discussion already anyway. In the CoRE Virtual Interim we just had (minutes to be posted), we said = that the WG wouldn=E2=80=99t have a problem with changing the =E2=80=9Care= expected to=E2=80=9D (implement and default-enable) in Section 1.1 into = a stronger MUST. This would still leave the option for a Proxy operator = to turn off the use of the Option, i.e., a receiver cannot rely on = actually receiving it. 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Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:10:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: cabo@tzi.org, core-chairs@ietf.org, core@ietf.org, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.104.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157022342993.1451.8782862430024697535.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:10:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] core - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:10:30 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Carsten Bormann, a Chair of the core working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Constrained RESTful Environments Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Carsten Bormann Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours, 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: cbor t2trg cose artarea rats lake loops Technology Overlap: ace suit lwig saag secdispatch sacm teep irtfopen 6tisch 6lo roll httpbis lpwan Key Participant Conflict: coinrg dinrg cfrg icnrg detnet dnssd netconf netmod emu dots anima People who must be present: Carsten Bormann Alexey Melnikov Jaime Jimenez Resources Requested: Special Requests: Plse also avd any potntlly IoT reltd BOFs&PRGs tht mght cme up. Prefer some time between the two meetings (48 h or more). 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Mon, 7 Oct 2019 06:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 13:37:20 +0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?Jaime=20Jim=C3=A9nez?= To: Joaquin Prado Cc: CoRE WG , Ari =?utf-8?Q?Ker=C3=A4nen?= Message-ID: <20191007103719.xzxecixpkppxgyp4@EMB-918HFH01> References: <20190925092617.yhlk4dhvjm7gh3oz@EMB-918HFH01> <2EE77313-12F2-4EEA-BBEF-D98DB42201C2@omaorg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2EE77313-12F2-4EEA-BBEF-D98DB42201C2@omaorg.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] =?utf-8?q?=F0=9F=94=94_WGLC_of_draft-ietf-core-senml-more?= =?utf-8?q?-units?= X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 10:37:28 -0000 Hi, Well, we are in WGLC until Wednesday. Maybe the authors can still submit a revision with those units if they so choose. That is, unless they are deemed too trivial to be included. A third option is that others -including OMA- could register more units when the sub-registry is up and running. Thank you Joaquin for pointing it out. BR, -- Jaime Jiménez On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:18:29AM +0000, Joaquin Prado wrote: > Dear Jaime et al, > > Based on the units that we still have pending to register in OMA LwM2M, we are still missing the following units: > > * kvarh (kilovolt-ampere reactive per hour) > * kVAh (kilovolt-ampere per hour) > * km (kilometers) > * kmh (kilometer per hour) > * rpm (revolutions per minute) > > Please let me know if you have any question. > > Regards > --- > Joaquin Prado > > OMA Director of Technical Programs > Cell: +1 858 249 8300 > email: jprado@omaorg.org > Skype/Slack: jpradocueva > > www.omaspecworks.org > OMA GitHub Organization > > > > On 9/25/19, 6:26 PM, "core on behalf of Jaime Jiménez" wrote: > > Dear CoRE, > > this is a WGLC for the senml-more-units draft. The document proposes additional units for > SenML. It has gone through chairs' review and it looks ready from that > point of view. The group is requested to provide more feedback at this > point. > > For those familiar with v-00, the diff is available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-01.txt > > The call will last two weeks until the 9th of October. > > Best Regards, > -- Jaime Jiménez > > > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core > > From pavel.geiger@jablotron.cz Mon Oct 7 06:15:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEC71200CD for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 06:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Mon, 7 Oct 2019 17:34:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <03e317ad57993f9d2c059a951e25958042a82be1.camel@jablotron.cz> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 17:34:15 +0200 Cc: "core@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592155254.273599-2555439e0903f352f3a136b0b957e6e9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0A096168-ACC8-44CC-A58A-6CED65B8CFF1@tzi.org> References: <03e317ad57993f9d2c059a951e25958042a82be1.camel@jablotron.cz> To: Geiger Pavel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Block-wise coap vs. options X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 15:34:26 -0000 Hi Pavel, > On Oct 7, 2019, at 15:15, Geiger Pavel = wrote: >=20 > Hi, we have implemented CoAP library with support for block-wise coap. = What we have problem with is, that block-wise coap doesnt fragment = options. By our understanding they are still transfered together in = single CoAP datagram. Therefore, if we have CoAP option with payload = larger than MTU (for example uri-query), there is no way, how to = transfer it reliably with respect to the MTU. Indeed, the assumption is that CoAP options are small enough they = don=E2=80=99t need to be segmented. What is the context in which this happens? Maybe you are using = uri-query in a way for which we normally would use FETCH (RFC 8132) = payloads (which do support block-wise transfer). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Oct 7 09:00:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB20120041 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:00:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Odh131zHPors for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA1521200D6 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sev.informatik.uni-bremen.de (sev.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46n4vQ0M4yzyTG; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <2EE77313-12F2-4EEA-BBEF-D98DB42201C2@omaorg.org> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:00:33 +0200 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Jaime_Jim=C3=A9nez?= , CoRE WG X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592156831.544477-1dcf849c238dd44a5d00ef2a6a2e94d5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B9242B3-37A9-4612-A895-1AAE0695BBDC@tzi.org> References: <20190925092617.yhlk4dhvjm7gh3oz@EMB-918HFH01> <2EE77313-12F2-4EEA-BBEF-D98DB42201C2@omaorg.org> To: Joaquin Prado X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] =?utf-8?q?=F0=9F=94=94_WGLC_of_draft-ietf-core-senml-more?= =?utf-8?q?-units?= X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 16:00:39 -0000 On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:18, Joaquin Prado wrote: >=20 > * kvarh (kilovolt-ampere reactive per hour) > * kVAh (kilovolt-ampere per hour) > * km (kilometers) > * kmh (kilometer per hour) > * rpm (revolutions per minute) Hi Joaquin, these can be registered when the document is approved, but it certainly = saves time to put them in now. I have slightly cleaned up the above and = put it into the editor=E2=80=99s draft = https://core-wg.github.io/senml-more-units/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-unit= s.html (*); diff can be seen below or (together with some previous = changes) at https://tinyurl.com/senml-more-units-diff . Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten diff --git a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md = b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md index 7618e16..c50792f 100644 --- a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md +++ b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md @@ -123,6 +123,7 @@ subregistry of the SenML registry {{IANA.senml}} (as = defined in {{RFC8428}}): = |--------+------------------------------------------------+-------+-------= ----| | B | Byte (information content) | float | = RFCthis | | VA | volt-ampere (Apparent Power) | float | = RFCthis | +| VAs | volt-ampere seconds (Apparent Energy) | float | = RFCthis | | var | volt-ampere reactive (Reactive Power) | float | = RFCthis | | vars | volt-ampere reactive seconds (Reactive Energy) | float | = RFCthis | | J/m | joule per meter (Energy per distance) | float | = RFCthis | @@ -207,6 +208,8 @@ The initial content of the secondary units registry = is provided in {{secondary-u | Wh | watt-hour | J | 3600 = | 0 | RFCthis | | kWh | kilowatt-hour | J | 3600000 = | 0 | RFCthis | | varh | var-hour | vars | 3600 = | 0 | RFCthis | +| kvarh | kilovar-hour | vars | 3600000 = | 0 | RFCthis | +| kVAh | kilovolt-ampere-hour | VAs | 3600000 = | 0 | RFCthis | | Wh/km | watts-hour per kilometer | J/m | 3.6 = | 0 | RFCthis | | KiB | kibibyte | B | 1024 = | 0 | RFCthis | | mV | millivolt | V | 1/1000 = | 0 | RFCthis | @@ -217,6 +220,9 @@ The initial content of the secondary units registry = is provided in {{secondary-u | ppm | parts per million | / | 1e-6 = | 0 | RFCthis | | hPa | hectopascal | Pa | 100 = | 0 | RFCthis | | mm | millimeter | m | 1/1000 = | 0 | RFCthis | +| km | kilometer | km | 1000 = | 0 | RFCthis | +| km/h | kilometer per hour | m/s | 1/3.6 = | 0 | RFCthis | +| rpm | (revolutions) per minute | 1/s | 1/60 = | 0 | RFCthis | {: #secondary-unit-tbl title=3D"Secondary units registered for SenML"} =20 Example: the value of a quantity given as 100 ms is first multiplied From nobody Mon Oct 7 15:22:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D771200A4 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGMhBXYnTJaA for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp80.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (smtp80.iad3b.emailsrvr.com [146.20.161.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A9D6120073 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Auth-ID: fluffy@iii.ca Received: by smtp11.relay.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fluffy-AT-iii.ca) with ESMTPSA id 4BBA2400A4; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:22:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: fluffy@iii.ca Received: from [10.1.3.91] (d75-155-57-73.abhsia.telus.net [75.155.57.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Mon, 07 Oct 2019 18:22:24 -0400 From: Cullen Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 16:22:22 -0600 Message-Id: To: core , Jari Arkko X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [core] ABNF for draft-core-dev-urn X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 22:22:27 -0000 I was looking at the ABNF for this URN and the extensibility seemed = slight wrong.=20 We allow identifiers to be made out the characters ( ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" = / =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D ) but component are restricted to ( ALPHA / DIGIT = ). I don=E2=80=99t see any reason for this and suspect it was just a simple = oversight. I have submitted a PR make the characters allowed in an = component be the same as the identifier.=20 The PR also just simplifies the ABNF and allows future URN to be defined = using more =E2=80=9C:=E2=80=9D after the first subtype.=20 The PR is at https://github.com/jariarkko/core-dev-urn/pull/3 Let me know if there are any problems with this=20 Thanks, Cullen From nobody Tue Oct 8 06:42:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061312006E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 06:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com 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-0000 Hi, today ends the call for this draft. The feedback has been positive from all reviewers and it looks the document is ready to move forward. One small nit however is the "rpm" unit, which seems to be already registered in the main senml registry under the "1/min" name. In order to avoid duplication we probably should have one only. While OMA folks are making a decission we could simply move this draft forward without that unit, which they could add afterwars. Therefore, if the authors and the group are OK with that nit, the authors can resubmit and we will finalize the WGLC here. Best Regards, -- Jaime Jiménez On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:00:33PM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:18, Joaquin Prado wrote: > > > > * kvarh (kilovolt-ampere reactive per hour) > > * kVAh (kilovolt-ampere per hour) > > * km (kilometers) > > * kmh (kilometer per hour) > > * rpm (revolutions per minute) > > Hi Joaquin, > > these can be registered when the document is approved, but it certainly saves time to put them in now. I have slightly cleaned up the above and put it into the editor’s draft https://core-wg.github.io/senml-more-units/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.html (*); diff can be seen below or (together with some previous changes) at https://tinyurl.com/senml-more-units-diff . > > Grüße, Carsten > > diff --git a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md > index 7618e16..c50792f 100644 > --- a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md > +++ b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md > @@ -123,6 +123,7 @@ subregistry of the SenML registry {{IANA.senml}} (as defined in {{RFC8428}}): > |--------+------------------------------------------------+-------+-----------| > | B | Byte (information content) | float | RFCthis | > | VA | volt-ampere (Apparent Power) | float | RFCthis | > +| VAs | volt-ampere seconds (Apparent Energy) | float | RFCthis | > | var | volt-ampere reactive (Reactive Power) | float | RFCthis | > | vars | volt-ampere reactive seconds (Reactive Energy) | float | RFCthis | > | J/m | joule per meter (Energy per distance) | float | RFCthis | > @@ -207,6 +208,8 @@ The initial content of the secondary units registry is provided in {{secondary-u > | Wh | watt-hour | J | 3600 | 0 | RFCthis | > | kWh | kilowatt-hour | J | 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | > | varh | var-hour | vars | 3600 | 0 | RFCthis | > +| kvarh | kilovar-hour | vars | 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | > +| kVAh | kilovolt-ampere-hour | VAs | 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | > | Wh/km | watts-hour per kilometer | J/m | 3.6 | 0 | RFCthis | > | KiB | kibibyte | B | 1024 | 0 | RFCthis | > | mV | millivolt | V | 1/1000 | 0 | RFCthis | > @@ -217,6 +220,9 @@ The initial content of the secondary units registry is provided in {{secondary-u > | ppm | parts per million | / | 1e-6 | 0 | RFCthis | > | hPa | hectopascal | Pa | 100 | 0 | RFCthis | > | mm | millimeter | m | 1/1000 | 0 | RFCthis | > +| km | kilometer | km | 1000 | 0 | RFCthis | > +| km/h | kilometer per hour | m/s | 1/3.6 | 0 | RFCthis | > +| rpm | (revolutions) per minute | 1/s | 1/60 | 0 | RFCthis | > {: #secondary-unit-tbl title="Secondary units registered for SenML"} > > Example: the value of a quantity given as 100 ms is first multiplied > From nobody Thu Oct 10 22:34:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB8812006B; 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Presen= tly, the status of document is 'expired'. I=20 > wanted to know will this document have a new revision or whether it will = be published as an RFC.=20 >=20 > Waiting for your reply. >=20 > Regards > Rakesh Singla >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- >=20 From nobody Thu Oct 10 23:41:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED3F1200D5; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:41:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke_via_Datatracker?= To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke?= Message-ID: <157077606125.20455.11752074619038685184.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:41:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] =?utf-8?q?=C3=89ric_Vyncke=27s_No_Objection_on_draft-ietf?= =?utf-8?q?-core-hop-limit-06=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:41:01 -0000 Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for the work put into this document. I have a couple of COMMENTs (that I would appreciate to see a reply of yours) and one NIT. Regards, -éric == DISCUSS == == COMMENTS == -- Section 3 -- C.1) "Because forwarding errors may occur if inadequate Hop-Limit values are used, proxies at the boundaries of an administrative domain MAY be instructed to remove or rewrite the value of Hop-Limit carried in received messages" Isn't this remove all usefulness of the Hop-Limit option ? C.2) table 1, suggest to state the value of the C, U, N, R properties -- Section 4 -- C.3) while I understand why a proxy should not add its own diagnostic information when packet should become larger than the MTU of the next link, I wonder what will happen downstream when the MTU will be exceeded... C.4) suggest to use normative language (uppercase MAY, MUST, ...) == NITS == -- Section 3 -- N.1) s/if a less value/if a smaller value/ ? From nobody Thu Oct 10 23:58:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3131200F7; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.196 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yTT-RDtxT49Q; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6962412008B; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:57:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost2.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c8:406a:91ff:fe74:f2b7]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x9B6v7k5014281; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:57:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [100.72.189.201] (ip-109-40-2-185.web.vodafone.de [109.40.2.185]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46qJfW0xgTz1Bp8; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:57:07 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-24DBBA37-EACD-47E7-93E8-1B40F3EB3524 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <2B7FB02B-31B2-40E8-87AB-438B1793231D@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 08:47:02 +0200 Cc: Rakesh Singla , core , "draft-ietf-core-dev-urn@ietf.org" Message-Id: References: <2B7FB02B-31B2-40E8-87AB-438B1793231D@cisco.com> To: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17A860) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Status of document unknown X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:58:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail-24DBBA37-EACD-47E7-93E8-1B40F3EB3524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right. =46rom a WG chair perspective, we are waiting for a resubmit, with WG= last call next. This could be shipped to IESG before IETF106. Sent from mobile, sorry for terse >> On 11. Oct 2019, at 07:34, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wr= ote: > =EF=BB=BFWe are still working on it and I expect it to become an RFC.=20 >=20 >> On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Rakesh Singla wrote: >>=20 >> Dear IETF members, >>=20 >> I wanted to know the status of document 'draft-ietf-core-dev-urn'. Presen= tly, the status of document is 'expired'. I=20 >> wanted to know will this document have a new revision or whether it will b= e published as an RFC.=20 >>=20 >> Waiting for your reply. >>=20 >> Regards >> Rakesh Singla >>=20 >>=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core --Apple-Mail-24DBBA37-EACD-47E7-93E8-1B40F3EB3524 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right. =46rom a WG chair pers= pective, we are waiting for a resubmit, with WG last call next. This could b= e shipped to IESG before IETF106.

Sent from mobile, sorry for terse

On 11. Oct 2019, at 07:34, Cullen Jennin= gs (fluffy) <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFWe are still working on i= t and I expect it to become an RFC.

On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Rakesh Singla <rakeshs@c= dot.in> wrote:

Dear IETF members,

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">I wanted to know the status of document 'draf= t-ietf-core-dev-urn'. Presently, the status of document is 'expired'. I
wanted to know will this= document have a new revision or whether it will be published as an RFC.

Waiting for your reply.

Regards
Rakesh Singla


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6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: core@ietf.org Message-ID: <157086840813.1511.947825790230136421@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:20:08 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:20:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG of the IETF. Title : Additional Units for SenML Author : Carsten Bormann Filename : draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2019-10-12 Abstract: The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the indication of units for a quantity represented. This short document registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry for Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units that cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is updated to also accept these units. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Oct 12 01:33:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00812008A for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:33:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wRd5AZD0W_jy for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D07D120047 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 01:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p548DCE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.206.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46qylQ0nJzzySC; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:33:38 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <20191009131950.ub3qdgez4i5tyhwc@EMB-918HFH01> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:33:37 +0200 Cc: Joaquin Prado , CoRE WG X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592561480.350825-31cda9e2ee9af09e8f1214259d3650f3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92E761FB-30E3-4A12-91D0-3E4F760BBBB1@tzi.org> References: <20190925092617.yhlk4dhvjm7gh3oz@EMB-918HFH01> <2EE77313-12F2-4EEA-BBEF-D98DB42201C2@omaorg.org> <7B9242B3-37A9-4612-A895-1AAE0695BBDC@tzi.org> <20191009131950.ub3qdgez4i5tyhwc@EMB-918HFH01> To: =?utf-8?Q?Jaime_Jim=C3=A9nez?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] =?utf-8?q?=F0=9F=94=94_WGLC_of_draft-ietf-core-senml-more?= =?utf-8?q?-units?= X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:33:44 -0000 I have submitted -02 that should address all WGLC comments: Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 I believe this can now be shipped to the IESG. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On Oct 9, 2019, at 15:19, Jaime Jim=C3=A9nez wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > today ends the call for this draft.=20 > The feedback has been positive from all reviewers and it looks the > document is ready to move forward.=20 >=20 > One small nit however is the "rpm" unit, which seems to be already > registered in the main senml registry under the "1/min" name.=20 > In order to avoid duplication we probably should have one only.=20 > While OMA folks are making a decission we could simply move this draft = forward > without that unit, which they could add afterwars. >=20 > Therefore, if the authors and the group are OK with that nit, the > authors can resubmit and we will finalize the WGLC here. >=20 > Best Regards, > -- Jaime Jim=C3=A9nez >=20 > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:00:33PM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:18, Joaquin Prado wrote: >>>=20 >>> * kvarh (kilovolt-ampere reactive per hour) >>> * kVAh (kilovolt-ampere per hour) >>> * km (kilometers) >>> * kmh (kilometer per hour) >>> * rpm (revolutions per minute) >>=20 >> Hi Joaquin, >>=20 >> these can be registered when the document is approved, but it = certainly saves time to put them in now. I have slightly cleaned up the = above and put it into the editor=E2=80=99s draft = https://core-wg.github.io/senml-more-units/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-unit= s.html (*); diff can be seen below or (together with some previous = changes) at https://tinyurl.com/senml-more-units-diff . >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> diff --git a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md = b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md >> index 7618e16..c50792f 100644 >> --- a/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md >> +++ b/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.md >> @@ -123,6 +123,7 @@ subregistry of the SenML registry {{IANA.senml}} = (as defined in {{RFC8428}}): >> = |--------+------------------------------------------------+-------+-------= ----| >> | B | Byte (information content) | float | = RFCthis | >> | VA | volt-ampere (Apparent Power) | float | = RFCthis | >> +| VAs | volt-ampere seconds (Apparent Energy) | float | = RFCthis | >> | var | volt-ampere reactive (Reactive Power) | float | = RFCthis | >> | vars | volt-ampere reactive seconds (Reactive Energy) | float | = RFCthis | >> | J/m | joule per meter (Energy per distance) | float | = RFCthis | >> @@ -207,6 +208,8 @@ The initial content of the secondary units = registry is provided in {{secondary-u >> | Wh | watt-hour | J | = 3600 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | kWh | kilowatt-hour | J | = 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | varh | var-hour | vars | = 3600 | 0 | RFCthis | >> +| kvarh | kilovar-hour | vars | = 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> +| kVAh | kilovolt-ampere-hour | VAs | = 3600000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | Wh/km | watts-hour per kilometer | J/m | = 3.6 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | KiB | kibibyte | B | = 1024 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | mV | millivolt | V | = 1/1000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> @@ -217,6 +220,9 @@ The initial content of the secondary units = registry is provided in {{secondary-u >> | ppm | parts per million | / | = 1e-6 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | hPa | hectopascal | Pa | = 100 | 0 | RFCthis | >> | mm | millimeter | m | = 1/1000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> +| km | kilometer | km | = 1000 | 0 | RFCthis | >> +| km/h | kilometer per hour | m/s | = 1/3.6 | 0 | RFCthis | >> +| rpm | (revolutions) per minute | 1/s | = 1/60 | 0 | RFCthis | >> {: #secondary-unit-tbl title=3D"Secondary units registered for = SenML"} >>=20 >> Example: the value of a quantity given as 100 ms is first multiplied >>=20 >=20 From nobody Mon Oct 14 07:20:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA23F12002F; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 07:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass 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Subject: [core] draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00: Next Steps X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:56:36 -0000 --_000_VI1PR08MB5360526C599269C4FBCEC227FA900VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, We had a testfest organized by the OMA and hosted by TTA in Seoul last week= where a number of companies tested LwM2M v1.1. The use of SenML JSON/CBOR = is an (optional) feature of v1.1. I was expecting problems with the uniqueness of the basename in SenML. As m= entioned in draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00, the LwM2M specification int= erprets the global uniqueness requirement as global to the LwM2M ecosystem = whereas the IETF SenML specification appears to interpret it as being much = larger. In any case, there were no problems noticed at the testfest. That's great n= ews and was a surprise to me. As such, I think it is probably best to discontinue the work on draft-tscho= fenig-core-senml-lbn-00. Absent any problems in LwM2M v1.1 today I fear I w= ould cause more problems with the introduction of the new "local basename" = concept. I am wondering whether anyone has encountered problems with the global uniq= ueness requirement elsewhere. Ciao Hannes IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you. --_000_VI1PR08MB5360526C599269C4FBCEC227FA900VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

We had a testfest organized by = the OMA and hosted by TTA in Seoul last week where a number of companies te= sted LwM2M v1.1. The use of SenML JSON/CBOR is an (optional) feature of v1.= 1.

 

I was expecting problems with t= he uniqueness of the basename in SenML. As mentioned in draft-tschofenig-co= re-senml-lbn-00, the LwM2M specification interprets the global uniqueness r= equirement as global to the LwM2M ecosystem whereas the IETF SenML specification appears to interpret it as being much= larger.

 

In any case, there were no prob= lems noticed at the testfest. That’s great news and was a surprise to= me.  

 

As such, I think it is probably= best to discontinue the work on draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00. Absent= any problems in LwM2M v1.1 today I fear I would cause more problems with t= he introduction of the new “local basename” concept.

 

I am wondering whether anyone h= as encountered problems with the global uniqueness requirement elsewhere.

 

Ciao

Hannes

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Authors, thanks for your responses. I see = IANA has received a suggested value. I entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:29 AM, Roni Even (A) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Med, > Thanks, I have no further comments >=20 > Roni >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com = [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:19 AM > To: Roni Even (A); Jaime Jim=C3=A9nez; Roni Even > Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit.all@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org; = ietf@ietf.org; core@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of = draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-05 >=20 > Hi Roni, >=20 > Sure. We can include a suggested value.=20 >=20 > Thank you for the review. >=20 > Cheers, > Med >=20 >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Roni Even (A) [mailto:roni.even@huawei.com] Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi = 23=20 >> septembre 2019 07:01 =C3=80 : Jaime Jim=C3=A9nez; Roni Even Cc :=20 >> draft-ietf-core-hop-limit.all@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org;=20 >> ietf@ietf.org; core@ietf.org Objet : RE: [Gen-art] Genart last call=20= >> review of draft-ietf-core-hop- >> limit-05 >>=20 >> Hi, >> I looked at section 5.4.6 and now I understand that the option is=20 >> elective, non-repeatable and part of cache key. >> That will mean that the option number should have the two least=20 >> significant bits as 0 and the next 3 bits some combination that is = not=20 >> all 1's, see also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252#section-5.10 >>=20 >> I think you need to recommend a number for the option to IANA that=20 >> will allow understanding of the characteristics of the option, IANA=20= >> cannot allocate a random number to a new option >>=20 >> Roni >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gen-art [mailto:gen-art-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jaime=20 >> Jim=C3=A9nez >> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:29 PM >> To: Roni Even >> Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit.all@ietf.org; gen-art@ietf.org;=20 >> ietf@ietf.org; core@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of = draft-ietf-core-hop- >> limit-05 >>=20 >> Dear Roni, >>=20 >> I believe the CUNR bit mask is defined in 5.4.6 >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252#page-39 >> I assume it has to be added for every new option defined. >>=20 >> Ciao! >>=20 >> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 05:10:51AM -0700, Roni Even via Datatracker = wrote: >>> Reviewer: Roni Even >>> Review result: Ready with Nits >>>=20 >>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area=20= >>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by=20= >>> the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like=20= >>> any other last call comments. >>>=20 >>> For more information, please see the FAQ at >>>=20 >>> . >>>=20 >>> Document: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-?? >>> Reviewer: Roni Even >>> Review Date: 2019-09-22 >>> IETF LC End Date: 2019-09-27 >>> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat >>>=20 >>> Summary: >>> The document is ready for publication as a standard track RFC with=20= >>> nits >>>=20 >>> Major issues: >>>=20 >>> Minor issues: >>>=20 >>> Nits/editorial comments: >>>=20 >>> In section 6.2 I am not sure why you have CUNR , I did not see these=20= >>> values in >>> RFC7252 section 12.2=20 >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252#section-12.2 >>> or in the registry >>>=20 >>> +--------+---+---+---+---+------------------+-----------+ >>> | Number | C | U | N | R | Name | Reference | >>> +--------+---+---+---+---+------------------+-----------+ >>> | TBA2 | | | | | Hop-Limit | [RFCXXXX] | >>> +--------+---+---+---+---+------------------+-----------+ >>> C=3DCritical, U=3DUnsafe, N=3DNoCacheKey, R=3DRepeatable >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Gen-art mailing list >> Gen-art@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gen-art mailing list > Gen-art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art From nobody Mon Oct 14 15:37:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BCB1208A7 for ; 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charset=utf-8 Hi Hannes, Can we see an example of what your bn fields looked like? How does your = library process them? It's not terribly suprising to me that nothing = failed. After all, how does one test for global uniqueness? Best regards, Michael > On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Hannes Tschofenig = wrote: >=20 > Hi all,=20 > =20 > We had a testfest organized by the OMA and hosted by TTA in Seoul last = week where a number of companies tested LwM2M v1.1. The use of SenML = JSON/CBOR is an (optional) feature of v1.1. > =20 > I was expecting problems with the uniqueness of the basename in SenML. = As mentioned in draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00, the LwM2M = specification interprets the global uniqueness requirement as global to = the LwM2M ecosystem whereas the IETF SenML specification appears to = interpret it as being much larger. > =20 > In any case, there were no problems noticed at the testfest. That=E2=80=99= s great news and was a surprise to me. =20 > =20 > As such, I think it is probably best to discontinue the work on = draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00. Absent any problems in LwM2M v1.1 = today I fear I would cause more problems with the introduction of the = new =E2=80=9Clocal basename=E2=80=9D concept.=20 > =20 > I am wondering whether anyone has encountered problems with the global = uniqueness requirement elsewhere. > =20 > Ciao > Hannes > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are = confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended = recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the = contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy = the information in any medium. Thank you. = _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core = --Apple-Mail=_689A0FC6-64A0-45B1-A5CD-CBA1C1DE26E0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Hannes,

Can we see an example of what your bn fields looked like? How = does your library process them? It's not terribly suprising to me that = nothing failed. After all, how does one test for global = uniqueness?

Best= regards,

Michael

On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:56 AM, = Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:

Hi all, 
 
We had = a testfest organized by the OMA and hosted by TTA in Seoul last week = where a number of companies tested LwM2M v1.1. The use of SenML = JSON/CBOR is an (optional) feature of v1.1.
 
I was = expecting problems with the uniqueness of the basename in SenML. As = mentioned in draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00, the LwM2M specification = interprets the global uniqueness requirement as global to the LwM2M = ecosystem whereas the IETF SenML specification appears to interpret it = as being much larger.
 
In any case, there were no = problems noticed at the testfest. That=E2=80=99s great news and was a = surprise to me.  
 
As such, I think it is = probably best to discontinue the work on = draft-tschofenig-core-senml-lbn-00. Absent any problems in LwM2M v1.1 = today I fear I would cause more problems with the introduction of the = new =E2=80=9Clocal basename=E2=80=9D concept. 
 
I am = wondering whether anyone has encountered problems with the global = uniqueness requirement elsewhere.
 
Ciao
Hannes
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draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:14:16 -0000 Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Section 1.0, What is an “involved application agent”? ** Section 1.1 Per “CoAP proxies that do not have specific knowledge that proxy loops are avoided in some way …”, how would a proxy know that? ** Section 7. Perhaps also add that a malicious proxy can induce more subtle failures than just straight packet drops by manipulating the Hop Limit value. ** Editorial Nits: -- Section 1.1. Editorial. s/ The Hop-Limit option has originally been designed for a/The Hop-Limit option was originally designed for a/ -- Section 3. Recommend being clearer on what it means for “Hop-Limit detection gets broken” when proxies on boundaries re-write the hop limit value. Perhaps something on the order of: s/ This modification should be done with caution in case proxy-forwarded traffic repeatedly crosses the administrative domain boundary in a loop and so Hop-Limit detection gets broken ./ This modification should be done with caution in case proxy-forwarded traffic repeatedly crosses the administrative domain boundary in a loop rendering negating the efficacy of loop detection through the Hop-Limit field. -- Section 4. Per “Only one information per proxy should appear in the diagnostic payload”, what is “one information” (it seems like a few words are missing here)? -- Section 4. Per “Doing so allows to limit the size of the TBA1 …”, this sentence doesn’t parse for me. From nobody Tue Oct 15 05:59:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3DB1200F4 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.4, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X1RMxN3ueFZU for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.amsuess.com (alt.prometheus.amsuess.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:190:3064::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB4A912004C for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010:a800:ff:fede:b1bd]) by prometheus.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11BF846936; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010:a800:ff:fede:b1bf]) by poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA4936; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hephaistos.amsuess.com (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010:91ef:3c09:f0bb:eed7]) by poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 049507A; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 4854 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:58:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:58:08 +0200 From: Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ams=FCss?= To: Christer Holmberg Cc: "core@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20191015125805.GA777@hephaistos.amsuess.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Does one have to use registered resource type (rt) values? X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:59:31 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Christer, hello CoRE group, On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 08:11:09AM +0000, Christer Holmberg wrote: > QUESTION: Does one have to use registered rt values, or can one use > non-registered values? Section 3.1 of RFC 6690 does mention the > registry. But, the text also talks values with =E2=80=9Capplication-speci= fic > semantics=E2=80=9D, which suggests that one could use non-registered valu= es. My understanding is that the options for those applications are to * provide a specification and enter the value into the registry, or to=20 * use URIs for rt values, as they do not need to be registered. OIC, OMA and Fairhair registered resource types as part of quite large specifications. There is no need for that that much text, though: A concise definition of what the resource type means would probably be enough, and there are no requirements on the organizational background of the registrant. I have not seen URIs in use in combination with link-format out in the wild, and (given their verbosity) don't really expect them to before CoRAL comes into active use. > IRFC 6690 also use both =E2=80=9Ctemperature-c=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cligh= t-lux=E2=80=9D, but none of > them are registered. I DO realize these are just example values, which > would justify the fact that they are not registered. But it adds to > the confusion whether registration is required. Yes, that is a problem that has come up in other documents as well. Would it help to have example values registered that can then be used in other examples, possibly using the previously discussed hierarchical allocation and claiming the `example.*` space for that? (Or to not register them, but at least prefix examples?) Best regards Christian --=20 This may seem a bit weird, but that's okay, because it is weird. -- perldata(1) about perl variables --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEECM1tElX6OodcH7CWOY0REtOkveEFAl2lwlgACgkQOY0REtOk veEOwBAAysoZOIcmb+4M1xzcWtt1SvK8VB/yoKux4anQy+6BBtFDwvTzY2JokRpo chuxLpJTArJS54VFA+pF2vViQEuOwdJpMaurz19uUpt/ygNzFQtQ1HDybSAUT32u E4oS2C3KL/uj3GM4zT9IeRXQ7tYyG8whhasZWOB+KMFHgbW7Wi+A5KG4mjX81ggb c7vPQY8LM3KVW79yiwIhrvm371WwgltyQHptm8zCXNzwbbhDDj+25qSDrMMbOyO1 LmXYGHx3HhShKo+SgjNVy8s9jC3R9q3i3Vlgb1XcrhQ5lyoPXq1LwxLBKTVosW89 OTfQjfccbkradNHvIevlu2I0TkizBVF2xK3WiE5m0RS2DmjprkC1aqQaEb922yfw COyUs0FcJ9Vj5MRVGP8XC/Sx4p4KL48YfqFRQmVr2ccCjZgY+CD3BpSm6VUU9K2t Y24gGMBuWexw4rS3f32/+/DmRGrd4VptQefUOBDynZzQ/ZHzUzMI9apd8DWQGOsV O0SzIvmYKKSWDCvoVEl8ljMh/WAdsyJU6cLQxOlsY+uHHpytfmyXIDfmEfNlKnlp G6lkQWyax9PyyznpvqPCjvKBnlT2MaqriY/L+kquaEZ7ZVL/0NlwwBJdmz/DaVEs BmrjHxTvll5X+TjUQJ/qTWYPv7aIs7IAYC9n49kzya1ePK1h+/Y= =57KP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From nobody Tue Oct 15 06:04:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8051200F4; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 06:04:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org, sob@sobco.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Warren Kumari Message-ID: <157114466189.18025.13398333398629298875.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 06:04:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:04:23 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Firstly, thank you for writing this - also, thank you for the discussions and addressing the comments from the OpsDir review (and much thanks to Scott for providing the review). I agree that this should have an Updates: tab, but I understand the arguments against it. There are some very good notes in the other ballots, which I really think need to be addressed, including such clear things as Suresh's: "CoAP messages received with a Hop-Limit option ... ***greater than '255'*** MUST be rejected" -- Since the field is only 8 bits long this will never happen, right? If so, this text about >255 needs to be removed. 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from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5EC120803; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 08:04:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Magnus Westerlund via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Magnus Westerlund Message-ID: <157115188062.18041.11913786234462909430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 08:04:40 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Magnus Westerlund's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:04:41 -0000 Magnus Westerlund has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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From nobody Tue Oct 15 09:31:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DCD1207FC; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Benjamin Kaduk Message-ID: <157115709153.27948.12343939981498670960.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:31:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:31:32 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Section 1.1 It's not entirely clear to me that the original ("specific") use case needs to be mentioned given that the document now has a generic intended usage. Note that this means that a server that receives requests both via proxies and directly from clients may see otherwise identical requests with and without the Hop-Limit option included; servers with internal caching will therefore also want to implement this option. We might want to have one more sentence here to expound on why (if they implement the option, then it's okay for them to ignore it when doing a cache lookup which would not otherwise be safe?) Section 3 I'd suggest mentioning that C/U/N/R and the formatting of Table 1 also match up with Table 4 (Section 5.10) of RFC 7252, since without that reference for comparison it's a bit hard to know how to interpret the C/U/N/R columns in the table. Nevertheless, the presence of such proxies will not prevent infinite loop detection if at least one CoAP proxy which support the Hop-Limit option is involved in the loop. nit: s/support/supports/ A CoAP proxy which understands the Hop-Limit option MAY be instructed, using a configuration parameter, to insert a Hop-Limit option when relaying a request which do not include the Hop-Limit option. In light of the other discussion about how strongly to recommend Hop-Limit's usage, do we want to revisit MAY vs. SHOULD here? (My apologies if we already did and I missed it.) The initial Hop-Limit value should be configurable. If no initial value is explicitly provided, the default initial Hop-Limit value of 16 MUST be used. This value is chosen to be sufficiently large to guarantee that a CoAP request would not be dropped in networks when there were no loops, but not so large as to consume CoAP proxy resources when a loop does occur. [...] It would have been nice to have an updated rev that includes feedback from, e.g., the secdir reviewer. That is to say, I also think that "guarantee" is too strong here. Note: If a request with a given value of Hop-Limit failed to reach a server because the hop limit is exhausted, then the same failure will be observed if a less value of the Hop-Limit option is used instead. nit: s/less/smaller/ Section 4 To ease debugging and troubleshooting, the CoAP proxy which detects a loop includes its information in the diagnostic payload under the nit: given the subsequent discussion, maybe s/its information/an identifier for itself/? conditions detailed in Section 5.5.2 of [RFC7252]. That information MUST NOT include any space character. The information inserted by a Does "space character" just mean ASCII 0x20, or any character with the WSpace property? Each intermediate proxy involved in relaying a TBA1 (Hop Limit Reached) error message prepends its own information in the diagnostic payload with a space character used as separator. Only one information per proxy should appear in the diagnostic payload. Doing Does this mean that a proxy is expected to inspect the diagnostic payload for its own identifier before prepending? Section 5 By default, the HTTP-to-CoAP Proxy inserts a Hop-Limit option following the guidelines in Section 3. The HTTP-to-CoAP Proxy MAY be instructed by policy to insert a Hop-Limit option only if a Via (Section 5.7.1 of [RFC7230]) or CDN-Loop header field [RFC8586] is present in the HTTP request. It seems like a descriptive "may" would work okay here, if desired. By default, the CoAP-to-HTTP Proxy inserts a Via header field in the HTTP request if the CoAP request includes a Hop-Limit option. The CoAP-to-HTTP Proxy MAY be instructed by policy to insert a CDN-Loop header field instead of the Via header field. (same here) When both HTTP-to-CoAP and CoAP-to-HTTP proxies are involved, the loop detection may get broken if the proxy-forwarded traffic repeatedly crosses the HTTP-to-CoAP and CoAP-to-HTTP proxies. It feels like we could say more here -- if the hc and ch proxies use mapping rules such that proxy identifiers are preserved across a protocol-translation round-trip, wouldn't loop detection still work? Section 7 It seems that any attacker in a position to add or modify a hop-limit option would be able to drop the request or forge a response anyway, so there's not much of a new DoS risk. However, in addition to the topology leakage in the diagnostic payload, I think that an attacker could use small hop-limit values to probe the topology of a network into which it is making requests, finding the smallest hop-limit value that allows the request to succeed. From nobody Tue Oct 15 15:04:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0681120045; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:04:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Barry Leiba via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Barry Leiba Message-ID: <157117708870.28091.17993723408155206601.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:04:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Barry Leiba's Yes on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 22:04:49 -0000 Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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If you care to make me happier (an optional thing, surely), you might change every instance of “which” to “that” *except* the one in the Abstract (which is correct). — Section 3 — Nevertheless, the presence of such proxies will not prevent infinite loop detection if at least one CoAP proxy which support the Hop-Limit option is involved in the loop. “support” -> “supports” A CoAP proxy which understands the Hop-Limit option MAY be instructed, using a configuration parameter, to insert a Hop-Limit option when relaying a request which do not include the Hop-Limit option. “do not” -> “does not” From nobody Tue Oct 15 15:24:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96968120814 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:24:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fEOolWwNdIIv for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21FE112080A for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p548DCE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.206.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46t92Y2TVDzyXt; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 00:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <63A7A476-BE7E-4112-A69D-CF87B39E3F22@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 00:24:20 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592871059.225219-9d16ba14c9505c4bd7b8fbce976b5792 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3D41DBB4-F6A7-4796-BF15-3C40139B7807@tzi.org> References: <880105127.785171559138207866.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd101.webex.com> <63A7A476-BE7E-4112-A69D-CF87B39E3F22@tzi.org> To: core X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Webex meeting info: CoRE Virtual Interim X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 22:24:27 -0000 The meeting details for the CoRE Virtual Interim that starts later today = at 1500Z haven=E2=80=99t changed from last time; see below for = reference. =20 For the agenda, we said last time: > We probably should spend some time on pubsub in the next two interims. > Other big subjects for the next two interims: > =E2=80=94 group communications, discovery, responses over multicast -- = Week of October 14/15 could have a design team meeting. Interim on the = 16th could discuss outcome. > =E2=80=94 CoRAL =E2=80=94 on the 30th, so the changes can go into an = I-D before the cutoff. We probably also should do a quick status check on hop-limit, which is = on IESG tele chat on Thursday. There also was/will have been some progress on stateless. If you want to claim a slot for one of the above, please respond to = core-chairs@ietf.org Agenda will grow dynamically at the Etherpad for minutes: = https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-20191016-core Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > Virtual Interim > Hosted by CORE Working Group >=20 > Wednesday, 16 Oct, 2019 15:00 | 1 hour 30 minutes | (UTC+00:00) = Monrovia, Reykjavik > Occurs every 2 week(s) on Wednesday effective 5/29/2019 until = 11/13/2019 from 3:00 PM to 4:30 PM, (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik > Meeting number: 648 636 609 > Password: constrained > = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm4f01e31ccd50d241bcf796aed4bf46d4= >=20 > Join by phone > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 648 636 609 From nobody Tue Oct 15 21:02:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B059E12004D; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:02:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Adam Roach via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , core-chairs@ietf.org, jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Adam Roach Message-ID: <157119856571.27890.17758374211784702820.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:02:45 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 04:02:46 -0000 Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to everyone who worked on this document. I'm a little surprised that the treatment of loops that go between HTTP and CoAP networks involves a simple observation that detection of such cases simply won't work, without any attempt at mitigation. I'm sympathetic to the observation during WGLC that directly interworking with RFC 8586 isn't feasible, but surprised that more primitive approaches to at least preserving the CoAP Hop-Count as it crossed the HTTP network weren't considered. There are aesthetic discussions to be had around, e.g., defining an HTTP "Hop-Count" header field (which isn't acted on by the HTTP network, but serves the purpose of preserving the value during transit) or overloading the semantics (but not really the meaning) of the HTTP "Max-Forwards" header field, or (in extremis) squirreling the Hop-Count away in the `pseudonym` portion of the inserted HTTP Via header field. But I think the high order bit here is that preserving the Hop-Count value through the HTTP network would be trivial, and would prevent the identified shortcoming of the current mechanism. 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<9D131FD6-2CE8-4C23-8BF1-0641C3E65A46@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:15:50 +0200 Cc: "core@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592917348.508991-955eb36abee88a1c516a1a1b13b4e7f5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9D131FD6-2CE8-4C23-8BF1-0641C3E65A46@ericsson.com> To: Christer Holmberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] A couple of late comments on Hop-Limit X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:15:56 -0000 Hi Christer, On Oct 16, 2019, at 12:13, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, > =20 > I haven=E2=80=99t followed the hop-limit discussions, so I apologize = if the following has already been discussed. I also know that my = comments come very late in the process, so sorry for that. Comments are always welcome =E2=80=94 it is just less pain to process = them when they are early=E2=80=A6 > Adam may have an opinion regarding Q2. > =20 > =20 > Q1:=20 > =20 > The draft talks about =E2=80=9CCoAP messages=E2=80=9D. But, if I = understand correctly, it is only intended to be used for CoAP request = messages, right? > =20 > =E2=80=A2 Since you use a CoAP option, the mechanism can=E2=80=99t= be used in an empty message. > =E2=80=A2 I assume you don=E2=80=99t want to use the mechanism = when sending a response, because then there is a risk that the client = will not receive it. Hop-Limit Options are indeed meant to be used in CoAP requests. This needs to be made explicit (*), and it would be a good idea to more = specifically talk about requests where the text right now talks about = messages that are always requests. (*) RFC 7252 is not a good role model here; not all descriptions of = options make explicit whether the option can be used on requests, = responses, or both. This is certainly one item we can improve when we = decide to generate a revision of that RFC. We are collecting such = issues in a github repository; this one now is = https://github.com/core-wg/corrclar/issues/12 > Unless I=E2=80=99ve missed it, I think it should be more explicit what = the applicability of the mechanism is. > =20 > =20 > Q2: > =20 > The draft says that a CoAP message with the Hop-Limit option value set = to 0 bigger than 255 must be rejected with a 4.00 Bad Request response. There are two cases here: 0, and > 255. The latter would be a syntax = error for this option; the option description clearly limits the value = to a single byte (Table 1). Zero is not a syntax error, but a value = that the authors chose to disallow. > =E2=80=A2 Is 4.00 really an appropriate response code? When = reading the HTTP definition for 400 Bad Request (CoAP inherits the = semantics), it is about a client error (miss formed message, etc), which = is not the case here. A syntax error or a disallowed value in a request is a client error, no? > =E2=80=A2 Based on my experience in SIP, it is VERY useful to = have a dedicated response code for this (SIP defines =E2=80=98483 Too = Many Hops=E2=80=99). We do have one for this case: TBA1 | Hop Limit Reached But this is different from a syntax error. > Because, when this happens, it is often related to *network = configuration and/or routing issues* =E2=80=93 not to client = implementation issues =E2=80=93 so it is VERY useful information when = trying to figure out why the message was rejected. Specific response codes are useful if you want specific state machine = transitions to happen, but causing a protocol violation is not really = normal behavior, so all we need here are diagnostics. Please see Sections 5.5.2 and 5.9.2 of RFC 7252. Section 4 of the draft does define a diagnostic payload for TBA1 | Hop = Limit Reached; it could also say something about the bad request case, = but maybe the general advice in RFC 7252 is sufficient here. 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9D131FD6-2CE8-4C23-8BF1-0641C3E65A46@ericsson.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3BCE567C3848DC238B88E87D" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] A couple of late comments on Hop-Limit X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:54:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3BCE567C3848DC238B88E87D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/16/19 5:13 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > > Hi, > > I haven’t followed the hop-limit discussions, so I apologize if the > following has already been discussed. I also know that my comments > come very late in the process, so sorry for that. > > Adam may have an opinion regarding Q2. > I do! > Q2: > > The draft says that a CoAP message with the Hop-Limit option value set > to 0 bigger than 255 must be rejected with a 4.00 Bad Request response. > > * Is 4.00 really an appropriate response code? When reading the HTTP > definition for 400 Bad Request (CoAP inherits the semantics), it > is about a client error (miss formed message, etc), which is not > the case here. > * Based on my experience in SIP, it is VERY useful to have a > dedicated response code for this (SIP defines ‘483 Too Many > Hops’). Because, when this happens, it is often related to > **network configuration and/or routing issues** – not to client > implementation issues – so it is VERY useful information when > trying to figure out why the message was rejected. > So, keep in mind that properly-implemented instances of this specification will never try to put a zero on the wire: an implementation that receives a message with a Hop-Count of 1 that would otherwise forward it are required to forego such forwarding by the final paragraph of section 3. (The notion of "greater than 255" doesn't exist, since you can't communicate a value greater than 255 in an 8-bit unsigned field). This is generally going to trigger a TBA1 (probably 5.08) response. That means that a "Hop-Count" of zero is semantically nonsense, and arguably a malformed message. This is analogous to an HTTP proxy corrupting a message on the way to its destination such that it cannot be interpreted by the recipient, a situation that would also trigger a 400 response. All of which is to say that I think the 4.00 response to a Hop-Count of 0 is the correct behavior. /a --------------3BCE567C3848DC238B88E87D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 10/16/19 5:13 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:

Hi,

 

I haven’t followed the hop-limit discussions, so I apologize if the following has already been discussed. I also know that my comments come very late in the process, so sorry for that.

 

Adam may have an opinion regarding Q2.


I do!


 

Q2:

 

The draft says that a CoAP message with the Hop-Limit option value set to 0 bigger than 255 must be rejected with a 4.00 Bad Request response.

 

  • Is 4.00 really an appropriate response code? When reading the HTTP definition for 400 Bad Request (CoAP inherits the semantics), it is about a client error (miss formed message, etc), which is not the case here.
  • Based on my experience in SIP, it is VERY useful to have a dedicated response code for this (SIP defines ‘483 Too Many Hops’). Because, when this happens, it is often related to *network configuration and/or routing issues* – not to client implementation issues – so it is VERY useful information when trying to figure out why the message was rejected.

 


So, keep in mind that properly-implemented instances of this specification will never try to put a zero on the wire: an implementation that receives a message with a Hop-Count of 1 that would otherwise forward it are required to forego such forwarding by the final paragraph of section 3. (The notion of "greater than 255" doesn't exist, since you can't communicate a value greater than 255 in an 8-bit unsigned field). This is generally going to trigger a TBA1 (probably 5.08) response.

That means that a "Hop-Count" of zero is semantically nonsense, and arguably a malformed message. This is analogous to an HTTP proxy corrupting a message on the way to its destination such that it cannot be interpreted by the recipient, a situation that would also trigger a 400 response.

All of which is to say that I think the 4.00 response to a Hop-Count of 0 is the correct behavior.

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303133F7D2@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:01:19 -0000 On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 02:43:28PM +0000, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Thank you for the review. > > Please see inline. > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org] > > Envoy: mardi 15 octobre 2019 18:32 > > : The IESG > > Cc: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org; Jaime Jimenez; core- > > chairs@ietf.org; jaime@iki.fi; core@ietf.org > > Objet: Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: > > (with COMMENT) > > > > Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > COMMENT: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Section 1.1 > > > > It's not entirely clear to me that the original ("specific") use case > > needs to be mentioned given that the document now has a generic intended > > usage. > > > > Note that this means that a server that receives requests both via > > proxies and directly from clients may see otherwise identical > > requests with and without the Hop-Limit option included; servers with > > internal caching will therefore also want to implement this option. > > > > We might want to have one more sentence here to expound on why (if they > > implement the option, then it's okay for them to ignore it when doing a > > cache lookup which would not otherwise be safe?) > > [Med] Not sure to fully understand the comment. The key point though is that such servers should not ignore the option. I was thinking we could give more motivation for "will therefore also want", perhaps appending ", since understanding the Hop-Limit semantics will improve caching efficiency". > > > > Section 3 > > > > I'd suggest mentioning that C/U/N/R and the formatting of Table 1 also > > match up with Table 4 (Section 5.10) of RFC 7252, since without that > > reference for comparison it's a bit hard to know how to interpret the > > C/U/N/R columns in the table. > > > > [Med] OK > > > > Nevertheless, the presence of such proxies will not prevent infinite > > loop detection if at least one CoAP proxy which support the Hop-Limit > > option is involved in the loop. > > > > nit: s/support/supports/ > > [Med] Fixed. > > > > > A CoAP proxy which understands the Hop-Limit option MAY be > > instructed, using a configuration parameter, to insert a Hop-Limit > > option when relaying a request which do not include the Hop-Limit > > option. > > > > In light of the other discussion about how strongly to recommend > > Hop-Limit's usage, do we want to revisit MAY vs. SHOULD here? (My > > apologies if we already did and I missed it.) > > [Med] Makes sense. > > > > > The initial Hop-Limit value should be configurable. If no initial > > value is explicitly provided, the default initial Hop-Limit value of > > 16 MUST be used. This value is chosen to be sufficiently large to > > guarantee that a CoAP request would not be dropped in networks when > > there were no loops, but not so large as to consume CoAP proxy > > resources when a loop does occur. [...] > > > > It would have been nice to have an updated rev that includes feedback > > from, e.g., the secdir reviewer. That is to say, I also think that > > "guarantee" is too strong here. > > [Med] ACK. We shared (offline) with Radia the change to address here comment with a pointer to the github updated copy. Apologies for not sharing the link on the secdir list: https://github.com/boucadair/draft-hop-limit/blob/master/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-07.txt. > > > > > Note: If a request with a given value of Hop-Limit failed to reach > > a server because the hop limit is exhausted, then the same failure > > will be observed if a less value of the Hop-Limit option is used > > instead. > > > > nit: s/less/smaller/ > > [Med] OK. > > > > > Section 4 > > > > To ease debugging and troubleshooting, the CoAP proxy which detects a > > loop includes its information in the diagnostic payload under the > > > > nit: given the subsequent discussion, maybe s/its information/an > > identifier for itself/? > > [Med] OK > > > > > conditions detailed in Section 5.5.2 of [RFC7252]. That information > > MUST NOT include any space character. The information inserted by a > > > > Does "space character" just mean ASCII 0x20 > > [Med] Yes. > > , or any character with the > > WSpace property? > > > > Each intermediate proxy involved in relaying a TBA1 (Hop Limit > > Reached) error message prepends its own information in the diagnostic > > payload with a space character used as separator. Only one > > information per proxy should appear in the diagnostic payload. Doing > > > > Does this mean that a proxy is expected to inspect the diagnostic > > payload for its own identifier before prepending? > > [Med] Yes, because otherwise there is a risk that TBA1 may be looping too. If the hop-limit is appropriately set, the loop will be detected early, which means that TBA1 can be forwarded to the CoAP endpoint. But, if the initial hop-limit is too high, the loop may not be detected earlier and the request may be crossing the same proxy several time till the hop-limit is exhausted. > > Will update the text to make this explicit. Thanks. > > > > Section 5 > > > > By default, the HTTP-to-CoAP Proxy inserts a Hop-Limit option > > following the guidelines in Section 3. The HTTP-to-CoAP Proxy MAY be > > instructed by policy to insert a Hop-Limit option only if a Via > > (Section 5.7.1 of [RFC7230]) or CDN-Loop header field [RFC8586] is > > present in the HTTP request. > > > > It seems like a descriptive "may" would work okay here, if desired. > > [Med] OK. > > > > > By default, the CoAP-to-HTTP Proxy inserts a Via header field in the > > HTTP request if the CoAP request includes a Hop-Limit option. The > > CoAP-to-HTTP Proxy MAY be instructed by policy to insert a CDN-Loop > > header field instead of the Via header field. > > > > (same here) > > > > When both HTTP-to-CoAP and CoAP-to-HTTP proxies are involved, the > > loop detection may get broken if the proxy-forwarded traffic > > repeatedly crosses the HTTP-to-CoAP and CoAP-to-HTTP proxies. > > > > It feels like we could say more here -- if the hc and ch proxies use > > mapping rules such that proxy identifiers are preserved across a > > protocol-translation round-trip, wouldn't loop detection still work? > > [Med] The issue is that proxy identifiers in the HTTP leg will be lost when entering the CoAP leg. > > It was raised in the WG whether we want to fix this or only record the issue. We went for the latter because this issue is also encountered when a CoAP request crosses multiple administrative domains; each boundary proxy resets the Hop-Limit. (I think Adam's ballot presented a more enlightened view of this topic, so propose to leave discussion of this issue to that thread.) > > > > Section 7 > > > > It seems that any attacker in a position to add or modify a hop-limit > > option would be able to drop the request or forge a response anyway, so > > there's not much of a new DoS risk. > > > > However, in addition to the topology leakage in the diagnostic payload, > > I think that an attacker could use small hop-limit values to probe the > > topology of a network into which it is making requests, finding the > > smallest hop-limit value that allows the request to succeed. > > [Med] Agree. We didn't include this one in the security section because we thought this is nullified by the following: > > Because forwarding errors may occur if inadequate Hop-Limit values > are used, proxies at the boundaries of an administrative domain MAY > be instructed to remove or rewrite the value of Hop-Limit carried in > received messages (i.e., ignore the value of Hop-Limit received in a > message). It's only a MAY, not a MUST, so we should probably inform operators of the tradeoffs in question... > But now that you raised it, we can include the following: > > A CoAP endpoint can probe the topology of a network into which it is > making requests by tweaking the value of the Hop-Limit option. Such > probing is likely to fail if proxies at the boundaries of that > network rewrite the value of Hop-Limit carried in received requests > (see Section 3). ... which this does quite well. Thanks! -Ben From nobody Wed Oct 16 10:42:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336EF120116; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:42:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: CC: core-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org, Jaime Jimenez , jaime@iki.fi, core@ietf.org, alexey.melnikov@isode.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:42:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 17:42:22 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful Environments WG (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units for SenML' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. 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Thu, 17 Oct 2019 01:00:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: core@ietf.org Message-ID: <157129920977.9343.13125709319267859005@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 01:00:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-07.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:00:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG of the IETF. Title : Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Hop-Limit Option Authors : Mohamed Boucadair Tirumaleswar Reddy Jon Shallow Filename : draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-07.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2019-10-17 Abstract: The presence of Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) proxies may lead to infinite forwarding loops, which is undesirable. To prevent and detect such loops, this document specifies the Hop-Limit CoAP option. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Oct 17 03:10:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD7F120178; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:10:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6O_I9sx1Oa-1; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E75912006E; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p548DCE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.206.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46v4fq3vPkzyTK; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:10:27 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031340642@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 12:10:27 +0200 Cc: Adam Roach , The IESG , "draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org" , Jaime Jimenez , "core-chairs@ietf.org" , "core@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 592999825.238937-ce50b10867baea70b0a575df09772535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C25960E-B9D5-4D90-B338-A45A9BDCA2E8@tzi.org> References: <157119856571.27890.17758374211784702820.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031340642@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:10:35 -0000 (Background:) I seem to remember that for a short time during the development of = OSCORE we thought about defining an HTTP header field =E2=80=9CCoAP-Option= =E2=80=9D (not sure that was the actual name) that can be used for = tunneling any kind of CoAP Options through HTTP segments of a proxy = path. I forget why we eventually decided we didn=E2=80=99t need this, but the = idea of course can be revived; CoAP=E2=80=99s option types are stylized = enough that this can be made to work in general. I wouldn=E2=80=99t necessarily put this into this draft; an update of = RFC 8075 might be a good receptacle. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On Oct 17, 2019, at 09:28, = wrote: >=20 > Hi Adam,=20 >=20 > It was raised in the WG whether we want to fix this or only record the = issue. I'm not convinced it is worth to request a new HTTP header to = address a specific case, e.g., two COAP realms connected via an HTTP = leg. For such loop to happen, this means that CoAP nodes are able to = communicate natively using CoAP without crossing the proxies. The = natural question is why then these proxies are deployed.=20 >=20 > I do think that the current approach in the draft is the right one: = record a potential issue without speculating on how the issue is = critical given that we don't have arguments. >=20 > Please note also that Section 10 of RFC7252 only discusses = CoAP-to-HTTP proxy and vice-versa, and does not discuss = CoAP-to-HTTP-to-CoAP schemes. May be an item to clarify in 7252-bis. >=20 > Thank you.=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Med >=20 >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Adam Roach via Datatracker [mailto:noreply@ietf.org] >> Envoy=C3=A9 : mercredi 16 octobre 2019 06:03 >> =C3=80 : The IESG >> Cc : draft-ietf-core-hop-limit@ietf.org; Jaime Jimenez; core- >> chairs@ietf.org; jaime@iki.fi; core@ietf.org >> Objet : Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: = (with >> COMMENT) >>=20 >> Adam Roach has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-core-hop-limit-06: No Objection >>=20 >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut = this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >>=20 >>=20 >> Please refer to = https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >>=20 >>=20 >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-hop-limit/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >> Thanks to everyone who worked on this document. >>=20 >> I'm a little surprised that the treatment of loops that go between = HTTP and >> CoAP networks involves a simple observation that detection of such = cases >> simply >> won't work, without any attempt at mitigation. >>=20 >> I'm sympathetic to the observation during WGLC that directly = interworking >> with >> RFC 8586 isn't feasible, but surprised that more primitive approaches = to at >> least preserving the CoAP Hop-Count as it crossed the HTTP network = weren't >> considered. There are aesthetic discussions to be had around, e.g., >> defining an >> HTTP "Hop-Count" header field (which isn't acted on by the HTTP = network, >> but >> serves the purpose of preserving the value during transit) or = overloading >> the >> semantics (but not really the meaning) of the HTTP "Max-Forwards" = header >> field, >> or (in extremis) squirreling the Hop-Count away in the `pseudonym` = portion >> of >> the inserted HTTP Via header field. 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593257539.733766-d395d753ad3a587fd75d4cba39dda151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:45:42 +0200 Message-Id: To: Ace Wg , core , cose , cbor@ietf.org, t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [core] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:45:56 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. Conflicts that meet the eye: LAKE/SUIT (already noted by Russ), BOF on top (thing security): TMRID. ACE/RATS are also both security technologies that impact IoT. COSE is a technology that might be relevant for WPACK. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Sophia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Hullet INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Sophia OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Canning INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Olivia TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Canning SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG Olivia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Canning INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Orchard RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Canning ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Collyer IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Orchard ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Collyer SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Sophia TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing VIP A RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Collyer TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Olivia ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Padang INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Olivia SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG From nobody Sun Oct 20 09:55:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2041200FA for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:55:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, 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X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.106.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: core@ietf.org Message-ID: <157167881320.31820.15335648329568633649@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:26:53 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:26:53 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG of the IETF. Title : Extended Tokens and Stateless Clients in the Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Author : Klaus Hartke Filename : draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2019-10-21 Abstract: This document provides considerations for alleviating CoAP clients and intermediaries of keeping per-request state. To facilitate this, this document additionally introduces a new, optional CoAP protocol extension for extended token lengths. This document updates RFCs 7252 and 8323. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-stateless/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 21 10:32:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5C9120164 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1A-OKIOgEWx9 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wp382.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp382.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42:1000:50ed:8597::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D33F120825 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt1-f171.google.com ([209.85.160.171]); authenticated by wp382.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1iMbX5-0004x1-RW; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:31:51 +0200 Received: by mail-qt1-f171.google.com with SMTP id c17so19229962qtn.8 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWRYPC6Sc5R8lOjiP7fnialR3alPXRXfYYhhFjPb+ZBNsVJTOTF wmC6m2B5uhw3UiBV2BCUvQm/fDi460HMcmmezHo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyVC9ZUZEQ58ZzeiQr0M4JldntDpzsGU4eCP2fZoXimls2ZjPwU5Xn9KTw+O9V70BpG29WU2YBNJFGuAr8XJmI= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:711a:: with SMTP id z26mr25927766qto.283.1571679110773; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <157167881320.31820.15335648329568633649@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <157167881320.31820.15335648329568633649@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Klaus Hartke Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:31:14 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "core@ietf.org WG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; hartke@projectcool.de; 1571679115; f6c0313f; X-HE-SMSGID: 1iMbX5-0004x1-RW Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:32:03 -0000 Hej! I've just submitted -02 of draft-ietf-core-stateless. This revision intends to address all feedback received during WGLC. @Reviewers: It would be great if you could verify that your WGLC comments have been resolved. Klaus On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 19:27, wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG of the IETF. > > Title : Extended Tokens and Stateless Clients in the Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) > Author : Klaus Hartke > Filename : draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt > Pages : 17 > Date : 2019-10-21 > > Abstract: > This document provides considerations for alleviating CoAP clients > and intermediaries of keeping per-request state. To facilitate this, > this document additionally introduces a new, optional CoAP protocol > extension for extended token lengths. > > This document updates RFCs 7252 and 8323. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-stateless/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-core-stateless-02 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core From nobody Tue Oct 22 00:21:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B7612004F; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=smyslov.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-2TkSTO9Hut; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from direct.host-care.com (direct.host-care.com [198.136.54.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF51212002F; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smyslov.net ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eB6Xf/vg+EdWUhR97Dm96pijyYqx7PqtzwH8TrYxBPY=; b=ACU80qcJfp1wwTcUNRLeOwHNdv uGdEyyogad7mqJkcgWcHnNChe9vFZMpSpxiCl2HDzBC+M8wxBxHjQEnzYFj5TUmhBCxSVOANtvzAF 7OEZCQxAxmzJoa1pL3f8vIVhb1odStBnNX87UfrAET2F7zflsxhVwD8ng4LVGEeM4nfa8M5A973aR ahpBitb7NdkLjLQazUYKnSzMb+TtLcL+o04M2OHwG7jxZ00ZYijgsP2TvPYXIMg6abkPjys4kUNOd ZZJjPCQ5hHa1QYUu9IK0EGXpaiy4ZdAooEoJpmxTpARvH8xbLebXXTlqJg+EppIA7mucoc81caZo6 0dGDQPgw==; Received: from [82.138.51.4] (port=58649 helo=buildpc) by direct.host-care.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iMoTT-0007yX-Uw; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:21:00 -0400 From: "Valery Smyslov" To: Cc: , , Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:20:58 +0300 Message-ID: <050d01d588a9$41b06ef0$c5114cd0$@smyslov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdWIpdf2A1a6Eq92S7mADJGdYNFbGw== Content-Language: ru X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - direct.host-care.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - smyslov.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: direct.host-care.com: authenticated_id: valery@smyslov.net X-Authenticated-Sender: direct.host-care.com: valery@smyslov.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Archived-At: Subject: [core] Secdir Last Call review of draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:21:07 -0000 Reviewer: Valery Smyslov Review result: Ready I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. This is a short document that defines additional measurement units and subunits to be used in SenML (RFC8428). As such the primary purpose of the document is to request IANA to update "SenML Units" registry and to create a new one - a "secondary units" sub-registry. The document doesn't define any actual protocol. The Security Considerations section refers to RFC8428, since introduction of new measurement units is believed to not bring any new security implications. Nit (not related to security). In para: SenML packs MAY, but SHOULD NOT, use secondary units in place of SenML units, where the exception of the "SHOULD NOT" lies in the context of specific existing data models that are based on these secondary units. I think that uppercase "MAY" is redundant here, because using "SHOULD NOT" always assumes that there may be exceptions. 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"Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:10:34 -0000 Hi Thomas, thanks a lot for your review! > Section 3 of this document provides considerations clients opting > into becoming "stateless" in this way. > > This sentence doesn't parse right; it looks like it's missing a "for" > just before "clients"? Fixed. > The maximum token length that sender and > recipient implementations support may be more limited > > s/more limited/shorter/ Done. > The active value of the Extended-Token-Length Option is replaced each > time the option is sent with a modified value. > > s/replaced/updated/ > s/is sent with a modified value/is received/ > > Its starting value is its base value > > The starting value is the Option's base value. This wording is copied from https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8323#section-5.3.1 > When an option value outside this range is received, the value MUST be > clamped to be within this range. > > I find this sentence slightly difficult to action: it doesn't say which > value should the receiver pick in case of {over,under}flow -- is it one > of RANGE_MAX / RANGE_MIN (whatever the closest) or some arbitrary value > within [RANGE_MIN, RANGE_MAX] ? A bit more clarity would help. The intention was to say: If the value is less than 8, then it shall be set to 8. If it's greater than 65804, then it shall be set to 65804. I though that's what clamping means, no? > Tangentially, I don't see a good reason why the receiver should silently > accept out-of-range values from the peer? I appreciate that the > effective TKL is constrained anyway, but my preference would be to fail > with an explicit signal. The rationale is different for the two cases: If the server indicates it can handle tokens up to 5 MiB, then the client cannot send a 5 MiB token, because the maximum length supported by the message format is 65804. But if a server can handle tokens up to 5 MiB, then it clearly also can handle tokens up to 65804 bytes, right? So there's not really an error if a server indicates a value greater than what can actually be sent. If the server can only handle tokens of some length that is less than 8 bytes, then it's clearly not implementing RFCs 7252 and 8323 correctly. This will never happen, so I think a client implementation shouldn't bother spending any more cycles than on a comparison and a conditional move. > to indicate the maximum length of a token in bytes that it accepts in > requests. > > Maybe: "to indicate the maximum acceptable length of the token (in bytes)" Maybe this? A server can use the elective Extended-Token-Length Capability Option to indicate the maximum token length it can accept in requests. > support by a server does not oblige a client to actually make use of > token lengths greater than 8. > > s/oblige/force/ This wording is copied from https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8323#section-5.3.2 > AES-CCM with a 64 bit tag is recommended > > CCM (and the tag choice) looks fine given that a) we need to buffer the > whole header anyway, and b) we want to limit the amount of tag bits as > much as possible while keeping the whole auth-enc machinery secure. > Maybe we should stick the usual note about nonce reuse / misuse > (especially for clients with low-quality entropy sources) and key > rotation strategies (since proxies potentially need to route a > considerable amount of messages). Would you like to propose some text? > Discovery needs to be performed for each pair of hops. > > s/each pair of hops/each hop/ Done. > If a server supports extended token lengths but receives a request > with a token of a length it is unwilling or unable to handle, it MUST > NOT reject the message. Instead, it SHOULD return a 5.03 (Service > Unavailable) response. (Returning this response requires that the > server implementation is able to return a token of any length, even > if it otherwise cannot handle tokens of that length.) > > This para is a tad dense. In particular, the use of "unable" seems to > contradict the MUST NOT: if I'm unable to handle this how can I not > reject it, what should I do? Handling a request usually goes through multiple steps from receiving the message to handing it over to application logic. The intention here was to say that a server implementing the document at least needs to support large tokens in the first few steps (enough to return an error response rather than a Reset message -- which is how we distinguish between "server does not support extended tokens" and "server temporarily does not have enough memory for this extended token"). > I'm probably not up-to-speed with the > related discussion, but I don't understand why we moved from 4.xx to > 5.xx? Now that you're mentioning it... It seems this needs a bit more thinking. There's the case where the server temporarily doesn't have enough memory to handle a request with a large token (so nothing that the client can do about -> 5.xx). And there's the case where the client chose a large token that the server will never be able to handle after the initial steps (so not something the client should try again -> 4.xx? 5.xx?). What do you think? 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<157167881320.31820.15335648329568633649@ietfa.amsl.com> <32E81F88-6171-4EBB-AA6E-886CF5F59548@arm.com> <38629887-0795-4F7F-B6AB-E446B63489CF@arm.com> In-Reply-To: <38629887-0795-4F7F-B6AB-E446B63489CF@arm.com> From: Klaus Hartke Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 13:07:21 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Thomas Fossati Cc: "core@ietf.org WG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de; hartke@projectcool.de; 1571742480; 2f6376f5; X-HE-SMSGID: 1iMs18-0006qG-An Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:08:04 -0000 Thomas Fossati wrote: > > The intention was to say: If the value is less than 8, then it shall > > be set to 8. If it's greater than 65804, then it shall be set to > > 65804. I though that's what clamping means, no? > > Sure, it's not "clamp" but the following "to be *within* this range" > that creates the ambiguity. So maybe just this? The option value MUST NOT be less than 8 or greater than 65804. When an option value outside this range is received, the value MUST be clamped to this range. (I'm not a native speaker; help is appreciated.) > Thanks. This is exactly what I meant by "dense": it looks like there is > an interesting amount of relevant information that is left implicit. I > think articulating the assumptions as you just did will make it easier > on future readers. > > [...] > > The latter looks like a 4.xx to me. Like so? If a server supports extended token lengths but receives a request with a token of a length it is unwilling or unable to handle, it MUST NOT reject the message, as that would imply that extended token lengths are not supported at all. Instead, if the condition is temporary, it SHOULD return a 5.03 (Service Unavailable) response. If the condition is permanent, it SHOULD return a 4.00 (Bad Request) response. Design Note: The requirement to return an error response when a request cannot be handled might seem somewhat contradictory. However, handling a request usually involves a number of steps from receiving the message to handing it over to application logic. The idea is that a server implementing this document at least should support large tokens in the first few steps (enough to return an error response rather than a Reset message). 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<157167881320.31820.15335648329568633649@ietfa.amsl.com> <32E81F88-6171-4EBB-AA6E-886CF5F59548@arm.com> <38629887-0795-4F7F-B6AB-E446B63489CF@arm.com> To: Thomas Fossati X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-stateless-02.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 13:57:32 -0000 On Oct 22, 2019, at 14:00, Thomas Fossati = wrote: >=20 > The option value MUST NOT be less than 8 or greater than 65804. If > the received option has a value greater than 65804, then it MUST be > set to 65804. If the received option has a value less than 8, > then it MUST be set to 8. Protocols 101 doesn=E2=80=99t like that. Reinterpreting values outside = the currently defined range as something else means that you never get = to use these numbers again. (Imagine we had done this with the old TKL = in RFC 7252.) What was wrong with rejecting bad numbers? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Oct 22 07:05:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2383120086; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:05:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15_MyiSc2d9z; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp125.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (smtp125.ord1c.emailsrvr.com [108.166.43.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AE7E1200EB; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:05:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Auth-ID: fluffy@iii.ca Received: by smtp8.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fluffy-AT-iii.ca) with ESMTPSA id 797A9A00EB; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:05:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: fluffy@iii.ca Received: from [10.1.3.91] (d75-155-57-73.abhsia.telus.net [75.155.57.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/5.7.12); Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:05:07 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:05:06 -0600 Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org, core Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: IETF Crazy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 14:05:13 -0000 I am strongly opposed to the secondary registry - it will significantly = harm interoperability. This could be resolved by not adding the items in = the secondary repository or by adding them to the main repository.=20 Having a registry of stuff that may or may not work simply means that we = will have less interoperability because what you can not decide what is = valid SenML or not. Sure some of the device vendors making things that = produce SenML have thought this was a good idea in the past but I=E2=80=99= d like to hear from a bunch of the people that have to process the SenML = data that is produced and see if they think it is a good idea.=20 The working group discussed this for a long time and was against the = items that are being added to the secondary repository.=20 If there is a large group of people that agree the consensus has = changed, then this should simply be put in the main registry. Many = people believe that since SenML is not meant to be human readable, = having a canonical form of just meters with a floating point number is = better than having both km, mm, and god only knows what else.=20 I note the secondary repository add mm but not cm. How is this insanity = going to work out? How will analytics code trying to process this data = know what it can use or not use. If we are going down this path, this is = the wrong way to do it. The right way is to define a set of all SI = prefixes and say they can be used with any unit.=20 > On Oct 16, 2019, at 11:42 AM, The IESG = wrote: >=20 >=20 > The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful = Environments WG > (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units for = SenML' > as Proposed Standard >=20 > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits = final > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-10-30. Exceptionally, comments may = be > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the = beginning of > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >=20 > Abstract >=20 >=20 > The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the > indication of units for a quantity represented. This short document > registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry for > Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units that > cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear > transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is > updated to also accept these units. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The file can be obtained via > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units/ >=20 > IESG discussion can be tracked via > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units/ballot/ >=20 >=20 > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core From nobody Tue Oct 22 07:46:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051761201DC for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:46:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.20.1.57] (unknown [12.90.237.218]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2414F916E434; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 10:33:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Cullen Jennings" Cc: IETF , core-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org, core , last-call@ietf.org Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 00:33:01 +0900 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13r5655) Message-ID: <2466ABB9-374F-459F-AF6F-3E1FF38F6262@episteme.net> In-Reply-To: References: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 15:33:18 -0000 [Cc'ing last-call.] I have to agree with Cullen. In fact, the paragraph at the bottom of section 4 shows the confusion and harm: SenML packs MAY, but SHOULD NOT, use secondary units in place of SenML units, where the exception of the "SHOULD NOT" lies in the context of specific existing data models that are based on these secondary units. You can't "MAY" do something and "SHOULD NOT" do it. Those are contradictory terms. Either register these (and all SI prefixes) in the existing registry, or don't register these at all. Implementations are perfectly capable of multiplying and adding. pr On 22 Oct 2019, at 23:05, Cullen Jennings wrote: > I am strongly opposed to the secondary registry - it will > significantly harm interoperability. This could be resolved by not > adding the items in the secondary repository or by adding them to the > main repository. > > Having a registry of stuff that may or may not work simply means that > we will have less interoperability because what you can not decide > what is valid SenML or not. Sure some of the device vendors making > things that produce SenML have thought this was a good idea in the > past but I’d like to hear from a bunch of the people that have to > process the SenML data that is produced and see if they think it is a > good idea. > > The working group discussed this for a long time and was against the > items that are being added to the secondary repository. > If there is a large group of people that agree the consensus has > changed, then this should simply be put in the main registry. Many > people believe that since SenML is not meant to be human readable, > having a canonical form of just meters with a floating point number is > better than having both km, mm, and god only knows what else. > > I note the secondary repository add mm but not cm. How is this > insanity going to work out? How will analytics code trying to process > this data know what it can use or not use. If we are going down this > path, this is the wrong way to do it. The right way is to define a set > of all SI prefixes and say they can be used with any unit. > > > > > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 11:42 AM, The IESG >> wrote: >> >> >> The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful >> Environments WG >> (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units for >> SenML' >> as Proposed Standard >> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >> final >> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-10-30. Exceptionally, comments >> may be >> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the >> beginning of >> the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >> >> Abstract >> >> >> The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the >> indication of units for a quantity represented. This short >> document >> registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry >> for >> Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units >> that >> cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear >> transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is >> updated to also accept these units. >> >> >> >> >> The file can be obtained via >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units/ >> >> IESG discussion can be tracked via >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units/ballot/ >> >> >> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> core mailing list >> core@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core -- Pete Resnick http://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best From nobody Tue Oct 22 08:50:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C94120145; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:50:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bdI7rRZyH_oL; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A2D71200E7; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p5089AE1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.174.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46yHyW4M1MzySN; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 17:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <2466ABB9-374F-459F-AF6F-3E1FF38F6262@episteme.net> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 17:50:11 +0200 Cc: Cullen Jennings , last-call@ietf.org, core-chairs@ietf.org, IETF , core , draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593452209.385865-e1671ccef4f53aeffa15a70caec5bfc7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <672CC672-67B4-42BF-8570-14B8EE4A4213@tzi.org> References: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <2466ABB9-374F-459F-AF6F-3E1FF38F6262@episteme.net> To: Pete Resnick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 15:50:16 -0000 On Oct 22, 2019, at 17:33, Pete Resnick wrote: >=20 > Implementations are perfectly capable of multiplying and adding. I think after 40+ years in the industry I can refute that statement :-) But, seriously, this draft is based on a specific request from an SDO, = OMA/IPSO, for which this secondary registry would enable porting their = existing data models to ones based on the SenML units registry. Other = SDOs from this space might follow suit. Clearly, when we did SenML, we didn=E2=80=99t want to go this route. = Currently, there is an amazing pull towards data model harmonization = that has changed the fundamentals enough that this draft now makes = sense. I=E2=80=99ll leave it to IPSO people to explain this in more = details. =E2=80=9CMAY, but SHOULD NOT=E2=80=9D means exactly what it says; I = don=E2=80=99t think there is a contradiction. But of course we can contract this to =E2=80=9CSHOULD NOT=E2=80=9D if = that helps. Oh, and =E2=80=9Ccm=E2=80=9D isn=E2=80=99t registered yet = because OMA didn=E2=80=99t need it, not because it couldn=E2=80=99t be = registered if that turns out to be desirable. SenML is now in a position to play a centerpiece in the harmonized IoT = data landscape. Not going for this draft is likely to thwart this = opportunity. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Oct 22 09:08:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC3312009E; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IFkP65jR8_hX; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from episteme.net (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DA3212004A; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D05916F14C; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:07:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3DLWSwzMclrQ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.20.1.57] (unknown [12.90.237.218]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2EA0916F143; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:07:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Carsten Bormann" Cc: "Cullen Jennings" , last-call@ietf.org, core-chairs@ietf.org, IETF , core , draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:07:55 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13r5655) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <672CC672-67B4-42BF-8570-14B8EE4A4213@tzi.org> References: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <2466ABB9-374F-459F-AF6F-3E1FF38F6262@episteme.net> <672CC672-67B4-42BF-8570-14B8EE4A4213@tzi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 16:08:06 -0000 On 22 Oct 2019, at 10:50, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Oct 22, 2019, at 17:33, Pete Resnick wrote: >> >> Implementations are perfectly capable of multiplying and adding. > > I think after 40+ years in the industry I can refute that statement > :-) The can successfully write code to convert to SenML, but can't write code to do simple arithmetic? Color me unconvinced. ;-) > But, seriously, this draft is based on a specific request from an SDO, > OMA/IPSO, for which this secondary registry would enable porting their > existing data models to ones based on the SenML units registry. Other > SDOs from this space might follow suit. > > Clearly, when we did SenML, we didn’t want to go this route. > Currently, there is an amazing pull towards data model harmonization > that has changed the fundamentals enough that this draft now makes > sense. I’ll leave it to IPSO people to explain this in more > details. But if that's true, it's also likely that these units will leak through to base RFC 8428 implementations. Do not make it optional for those implementations to deal with the new units; add them to the existing registry. > “MAY, but SHOULD NOT” means exactly what it says; I don’t think > there is a contradiction. > But of course we can contract this to “SHOULD NOT” if that helps. Save yourself the time of having Barry explain the problem to you in excruciating detail during IESG Review. :-) That said, this is obviously not the path I want you to take. > Oh, and “cm” isn’t registered yet because OMA didn’t need it, > not because it couldn’t be registered if that turns out to be > desirable. I would put pretty good odds on it appearing pretty soon after this document is released; implementers will assume that any unit will do. > SenML is now in a position to play a centerpiece in the harmonized IoT > data landscape. Not going for this draft is likely to thwart this > opportunity. Sounds like a fine thing to aim for. Again, that says to me to add these to the existing registry. pr -- Pete Resnick http://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best From nobody Tue Oct 22 09:16:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB8212090A; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ce4s7VfFJPBn; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69EA41208E2; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p5089AE1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.174.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46yJXx4GjczyY2; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 18:16:33 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 18:16:33 +0200 Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org, IETF , Cullen Jennings , last-call@ietf.org, core , draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593453785.36585-1f362647d4ab4c2d7104dc5ddc092402 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <157124774214.7822.2416155258603633472.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <2466ABB9-374F-459F-AF6F-3E1FF38F6262@episteme.net> <672CC672-67B4-42BF-8570-14B8EE4A4213@tzi.org> To: Pete Resnick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 16:16:45 -0000 On Oct 22, 2019, at 18:07, Pete Resnick wrote: >=20 >> SenML is now in a position to play a centerpiece in the harmonized = IoT data landscape. Not going for this draft is likely to thwart this = opportunity. >=20 > Sounds like a fine thing to aim for. Again, that says to me to add = these to the existing registry. Right now the primary registry generally provides the preferred unit to = encode some quantity. By mixing in the secondary registrations into the same registry, this = mild coercion would be diluted outside the use cases that require them, = and all of SenML would stand in the cesspool of derivative units we now = find in other IoT standards. (Historically, if we had known we wanted to go this way, we would have = chucked some of the units marked with an asterisk to the secondary = registry. But that horse has left the barn already.) 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] RD: Registration update/removal request without location X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 07:16:26 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Christer, On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:33:01AM +0000, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Section 5.3 of draft-ietf-core-resource-directory-19 says: >=20 > =E2=80=9CThe registration interface MUST be implemented to be > idempotent, so that registering twice with the same endpoint > parameters ep and d (sector) does not create multiple registration > resources.=E2=80=9D >=20 > Section 5.3 also says: >=20 > =E2=80=9DSuccess: 2.01 "Created" or 201 "Created". The Location-Path= option > or Location header MUST be included in the response. This > location MUST be a stable identifier generated by the RD as it is > used for all subsequent operations on this registration resource.=E2= =80=9D >=20 > Section 5.4 (including sub sections) then describe how the location is > used in subsequent registration update/removal requests. >=20 > QUESTION: If a client DOES NOT use the location in the update/removal > request, but the client DOES use the same endpoint parameters ep and > d, is the RD supposed to handle the requests in the same way as if the > location would have been provided? I assume the RD should be able to > find the registration resource based on ep and d. Just to verify I got the question correctly I'll write this as an example (with content-format and similar options elided for brevity): Req: POST /rd?ep=3Dnode1 Payload: Res: 2.01 Created Location: /reg/1234 Now the expected behavior would be for the registrant to refresh the registration like this: Req: POST /reg/1234 (No payload) Res: 2.04 Changed What I understand you asking about is what would happen if the registrant ignored the Location options but tries to perform the refresh operation on the /rd resource: Req: POST /rd?ep=3Dnode1 (No payload) Res: 2.01 Created Location: /reg/1234 That can succeed on a CoAP level (depending on the precise handling of absent content formats), but would not give the desired results: It is interpreted as the registrant trying to create a new registration (to override its previous one) *without any links in it* -- rather than refreshing the existig registraion. What a registrant that did not remember its location *could* do is to repeat the complete registration (copy-pasted from above): Req: POST /rd?ep=3Dnode1 Payload: Res: 2.01 Created Location: /reg/1234 which has the same effect as refreshing it -- but is less efficient, and not so much intended to be used like this. (That this is works this way at all is a result of making the registration operation idempotent to allow some optimizations, and to accomodate rebooting registrants). A client that can not be bothered to parse and remember the location should rather use the simple registration right away, which does allow more efficient operation. Does that answer your question? 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<157203793280.2724.13196671097217502492.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:12:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] core - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:12:26 -0000 Dear Carsten Bormann, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. core Session 1 (1:30 requested) Wednesday, 20 November 2019, Morning Session I 1000-1200 Room Name: Sophia size: 200 --------------------------------------------- core Session 2 (1:30 requested) Friday, 22 November 2019, Morning Session II 1220-1350 Room Name: Hullet size: 100 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/sessions/core.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Constrained RESTful Environments Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Carsten Bormann Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours, 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 60 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: cbor t2trg cose artarea rats lake loops Technology Overlap: ace suit lwig saag secdispatch sacm teep irtfopen 6tisch 6lo roll httpbis lpwan Key Participant Conflict: coinrg dinrg cfrg icnrg detnet dnssd netconf netmod emu dots anima People who must be present: Carsten Bormann Alexey Melnikov Jaime Jimenez Resources Requested: Special Requests: Plse also avd any potntlly IoT reltd BOFs&PRGs tht mght cme up. Prefer some time between the two meetings (48 h or more). Second meeting often is 40 people. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Oct 25 14:39:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B2812008F; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rc5mlMtssYzY; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27CC912004A; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p5089AE1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.174.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 470HYc0qPczyY2; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:39:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593732337.7825429-22303503c08916d892453144e1d146d6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:38:59 +0200 Message-Id: To: ace@ietf.org, core@ietf.org, cose@ietf.org, cbor@ietf.org, t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [core] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: FINAL AGENDA X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:39:05 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the FINAL AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that, occasionally, futher agenda changes do happen. Quite a bit has been moved around from the draft agenda. LAKE no longer conflicts with SUIT, TMRID is now on top of ROLL and TEEP which is maybe a bit less of a problem for most. ACE/RATS still conflict (and the other RATS meeting has moved from Monday to Friday on top of COINRG, but you can do this RATS thing without me, can you?). WPACK no longer conflicts with COSE (but now does with LAKE, which again probably just is a personal problem), LAKE/ANIMA is a technology and a potential user again. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Olivia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Collyer SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Canning ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Collyer OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Olivia INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Olivia RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Padang ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF VIP A RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Sophia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG Hullet TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Collyer INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Canning RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Canning IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Sophia SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG 1710-1940 IETF Plenary - Canning/Padang THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Orchard RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Canning TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Canning SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Padang TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Orchard SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG From nobody Mon Oct 28 08:26:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A12A12002F for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 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[216.169.5.102]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E0AE922EA03; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:57:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Gillmore, Matthew" Cc: "Ari =?utf-8?q?Ker=C3=A4nen?=" , "Cullen Jennings" , core-chairs@ietf.org, "IETF Crazy" , core , draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org, "Hytonen Harri" , last-call@ietf.org Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:57:45 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13r5655) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <10E8F425-E509-4849-AE06-D00313BFB2C4@ericsson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:57:58 -0000 Matt, Ari, and Harri, While you give good support for adding these units, and I am OK with that idea, do you have any objection to adding them to the main registry, which was the other suggestion that Cullen made? I still have not seen a convincing argument not to make these part of the main registry. pr On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:40, Gillmore, Matthew wrote: > Hi Cullen, > > I am the chair of the IPSO working group in OMA and also support what > Ari wrote. During the last IETF in Montreal, stakeholders from the > IPSO working group along with the Core working group met and it was > consensus amongst both working groups that the second registry is how > we would like to move forward. > > Cheers, > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf On Behalf Of Ari Keränen > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:37 PM > To: Cullen Jennings > Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org; IETF Crazy ; core > ; draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: > (Additional Units for SenML) > to Proposed Standard > > Hi Cullen, > > Carsten already replied to some of these issues later in the thread, > but let me add some more viewpoints. > >> On 22. Oct 2019, at 17.06, Cullen Jennings wrote: >> I am strongly opposed to the secondary registry - it will >> significantly harm interoperability. This could be resolved by not >> adding the items in the secondary repository or by adding them to the >> main repository. >> >> Having a registry of stuff that may or may not work simply means that >> we will have less interoperability because what you can not decide >> what is valid SenML or not. Sure some of the device vendors making >> things that produce SenML have thought this was a good idea in the >> past but I’d like to hear from a bunch of the people that have to >> process the SenML data that is produced and see if they think it is a >> good idea. > > Both registries would work and their use would result in valid SenML. > In a sense the second registry is almost the same as "adding them to > the main repository", but having the second registry enables us to > give better guidance which units to use/prefer and also provide the > translation to the "main registry units". > >> The working group discussed this for a long time and was against the >> items that are being added to the secondary repository. >> If there is a large group of people that agree the consensus has >> changed, then this should simply be put in the main registry. Many >> people believe that since SenML is not meant to be human readable, >> having a canonical form of just meters with a floating point number >> is better than having both km, mm, and god only knows what else. > > Yes, the canonical form of "just meters" is still the recommended way > in general, but that approach did not work as well as we hoped for all > use cases. For example when your sensor value is always in integers of > mm/h, it's more convenient and efficient to send integer values than > multiples of 2.777e-7. Also in many use cases there is a > well-established scaled unit that is used in the industry and forcing > to use a different one didn't turn out to be very productive (we can > still recommend, though, and that's one of the reasons why we are > proposing an additional registry). Finally, legacy models that use > non-scaled units but would like to use SenML as the wire format and > units registry would be expensive to update to use only non-scaled > units. > >> I note the secondary repository add mm but not cm. How is this >> insanity going to work out? How will analytics code trying to process >> this data know what it can use or not use. If we are going down this >> path, this is the wrong way to do it. The right way is to define a >> set of all SI prefixes and say they can be used with any unit. > > Any implementation should not try to use anything that is not in the > IANA registry. We did also consider to enable all SI prefixes, but > concluded that it is still useful to have the smallest reasonable set > of units to facilitate interoperability. If there's a real use case > that uses a unit with SI prefix that is missing, it can be simply > registered. Also not all units in the additional registry would work > with just different SI prefix (e.g., min or dBm). > > > Cheers, > Ari > >> >>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 11:42 AM, The IESG >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful >>> Environments WG >>> (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units for >>> SenML' >>> as Proposed Standard >>> >>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and >>> solicits >>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to >>> the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-10-30. Exceptionally, >>> comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, >>> please >>> retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >>> >>> Abstract >>> >>> >>> The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the >>> indication of units for a quantity represented. This short document >>> registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry for >>> Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units that >>> cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear >>> transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is >>> updated to also accept these units. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The file can be obtained via >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf >>> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dcore-2Dsenml-2Dmore-2Dunits_&d=DwIGaQ&c=pqcuz >>> KEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=UdGshIy7O85QbjoqbIdb_K7GJN4Vxe8yisqNq0oQtS4&m=1HS >>> mPnFlr7WEiLKKLxMke_BtKIEXMq-xPdsDRzT3I1k&s=wIciltspG7rnX8nThlkp4SeFlD >>> uiYAwaeqZEOxVBC9Y&e= >>> >>> IESG discussion can be tracked via >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf >>> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dcore-2Dsenml-2Dmore-2Dunits_ballot_&d=DwIGaQ& >>> c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=UdGshIy7O85QbjoqbIdb_K7GJN4Vxe8yisqNq0oQtS >>> 4&m=1HSmPnFlr7WEiLKKLxMke_BtKIEXMq-xPdsDRzT3I1k&s=cS56g5iiq-KyNYhVVTz >>> l1c5-ZTApK90BoaWReY-zR3Y&e= >>> >>> >>> No IPR 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(No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32F4812000F; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E60E924392C; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 09:16:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q50aEVrRoLAZ; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 09:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.1.10] (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DCD89243921; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 09:16:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Ari =?utf-8?q?Ker=C3=A4nen?=" Cc: "Gillmore, Matthew" , "Cullen Jennings" , core-chairs@ietf.org, IETF , core , draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org, "Hytonen Harri" , last-call@ietf.org Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 09:16:45 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13r5655) Message-ID: <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> In-Reply-To: <95F1979B-1A23-41F3-9869-6CD133C75269@ericsson.com> References: <95F1979B-1A23-41F3-9869-6CD133C75269@ericsson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:16:54 -0000 Hi Ari, What is the upside to having a minimal set of unscaled units when all implementations are going to have to be able to interpret all of the entries from both registries? An implementation can't keep comparisons simple, because it's going to have to deal with all of the new entries anyway. If an implementation is allowed to not implement the ones in the second registry, then that does lead to the interoperability problems Cullen is worried about. Even if if the document says that you MUST be able to interpret values from both registries, the downside is the possibility that implementations might simply ignore the second registry. And once you have the second registry, I don't see that there's any reason to prefer any of the entries in the original registry: You have to be able to handle both, and since everyone has to handle both, there's not reason not to send them either. Add the scale column to the main registry and use one registry. There's no upside to keeping two, as far as I can tell, and there's definitely the potential for interoperability problems. pr On 28 Oct 2019, at 14:26, Ari Keränen wrote: > Hi Pete, > > I don't have a strong objection for using the same registry for all > units, but I think the second registry is a better approach since that > allows us to keep the first registry in its original purpose: a > minimal set of unscaled units where you would use the numeric part of > the value to express the scale. This is still the best approach for > many use cases / systems since it allows you to get by with a small > amount of identifiers and keeps comparisons across values simple (you > don't need to normalize values based on unit's scale before doing > comparisons etc.). If we put all the units in the same registry, > systems (or their specifications) that would like to have this > property would have to state somehow which of the units in the single > registry one should use. > > Also the second registry has the "scale" column that indicates the > relation (and enables automatic translation) to the units in the first > registry. I guess we could get the same effect by extending the first > registry with the scaling field, but at least to me the second > registry feels like a cleaner option. And I don't see big downsides > for having separate registries for these; both contain still valid > SenML units. > > > Cheers, > Ari > >> On 28. Oct 2019, at 20.58, Pete Resnick wrote: >> >> Matt, Ari, and Harri, >> >> While you give good support for adding these units, and I am OK with >> that idea, do you have any objection to adding them to the main >> registry, which was the other suggestion that Cullen made? I still >> have not seen a convincing argument not to make these part of the >> main registry. >> >> pr >> >>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:40, Gillmore, Matthew wrote: >>> >>> Hi Cullen, >>> >>> I am the chair of the IPSO working group in OMA and also support >>> what Ari wrote. During the last IETF in Montreal, stakeholders from >>> the IPSO working group along with the Core working group met and it >>> was consensus amongst both working groups that the second registry >>> is how we would like to move forward. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ietf On Behalf Of Ari Keränen >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:37 PM >>> To: Cullen Jennings >>> Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org; IETF Crazy ; core >>> ; draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: >>> (Additional Units for >>> SenML) to Proposed Standard >>> >>> Hi Cullen, >>> >>> Carsten already replied to some of these issues later in the thread, >>> but let me add some more viewpoints. >>> >>>>> On 22. Oct 2019, at 17.06, Cullen Jennings wrote: >>>> I am strongly opposed to the secondary registry - it will >>>> significantly harm interoperability. This could be resolved by not >>>> adding the items in the secondary repository or by adding them to >>>> the main repository. >>>> >>>> Having a registry of stuff that may or may not work simply means >>>> that we will have less interoperability because what you can not >>>> decide what is valid SenML or not. Sure some of the device vendors >>>> making things that produce SenML have thought this was a good idea >>>> in the past but I’d like to hear from a bunch of the people that >>>> have to process the SenML data that is produced and see if they >>>> think it is a good idea. >>> >>> Both registries would work and their use would result in valid >>> SenML. In a sense the second registry is almost the same as "adding >>> them to the main repository", but having the second registry enables >>> us to give better guidance which units to use/prefer and also >>> provide the translation to the "main registry units". >>> >>>> The working group discussed this for a long time and was against >>>> the items that are being added to the secondary repository. >>>> If there is a large group of people that agree the consensus has >>>> changed, then this should simply be put in the main registry. Many >>>> people believe that since SenML is not meant to be human readable, >>>> having a canonical form of just meters with a floating point number >>>> is better than having both km, mm, and god only knows what else. >>> >>> Yes, the canonical form of "just meters" is still the recommended >>> way in general, but that approach did not work as well as we hoped >>> for all use cases. For example when your sensor value is always in >>> integers of mm/h, it's more convenient and efficient to send integer >>> values than multiples of 2.777e-7. Also in many use cases there is a >>> well-established scaled unit that is used in the industry and >>> forcing to use a different one didn't turn out to be very productive >>> (we can still recommend, though, and that's one of the reasons why >>> we are proposing an additional registry). Finally, legacy models >>> that use non-scaled units but would like to use SenML as the wire >>> format and units registry would be expensive to update to use only >>> non-scaled units. >>> >>>> I note the secondary repository add mm but not cm. How is this >>>> insanity going to work out? How will analytics code trying to >>>> process this data know what it can use or not use. If we are going >>>> down this path, this is the wrong way to do it. The right way is to >>>> define a set of all SI prefixes and say they can be used with any >>>> unit. >>> >>> Any implementation should not try to use anything that is not in the >>> IANA registry. We did also consider to enable all SI prefixes, but >>> concluded that it is still useful to have the smallest reasonable >>> set of units to facilitate interoperability. If there's a real use >>> case that uses a unit with SI prefix that is missing, it can be >>> simply registered. Also not all units in the additional registry >>> would work with just different SI prefix (e.g., min or dBm). >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ari >>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 11:42 AM, The IESG >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful >>>>> Environments WG >>>>> (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units for >>>>> SenML' >>>>> as Proposed Standard >>>>> >>>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and >>>>> solicits >>>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to >>>>> the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-10-30. Exceptionally, >>>>> comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, >>>>> please >>>>> retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated >>>>> sorting. >>>>> >>>>> Abstract >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the >>>>> indication of units for a quantity represented. This short >>>>> document >>>>> registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry >>>>> for >>>>> Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units >>>>> that >>>>> cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear >>>>> transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is >>>>> updated to also accept these units. From nobody Tue Oct 29 08:23:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD45120827; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:23:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SXothHzgNG62; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC75C120859; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.102] (p548DCA87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 472b2S43JwzySH; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:23:28 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:23:28 +0100 Cc: IETF , core , last-call@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594055406.586962-282ea5f3bfe820a7f845829e50f54012 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <95F1979B-1A23-41F3-9869-6CD133C75269@ericsson.com> <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> To: Pete Resnick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 15:23:39 -0000 [resending with trimmed CC list, as the IETF mailing list processor will = delay the message otherwise.] On Oct 29, 2019, at 15:16, Pete Resnick wrote: >=20 > Add the scale column to the main registry and use one registry. The two registries have different policies (not in RFC 8228 nomenclature = but in DE practice). If we treat entries with scale different from entries without scale, = this is exactly equivalent to having two registries. Except that it is trivial to write a program to curl the second registry = and convert a random SenML file to a clean main-registry-only file. If = these are muddled, you of course can write a slightly longer program. The main difference remains one of signaling. How the signals emanating = from a standards document actually influence the world is usually not = very well understood, so I can see why different people would have = different opinions here. I=E2=80=99d still prefer to signal that there = is a clear difference between using SI base units and furlongs per = fortnight, and decent SenML processors, given a choice, should do the = former. (And I definitely want to signal that SenML is open for business, but I = think we are discussing alternatives that are roughly equivalent in that = respect, not sending away those other SDOs at the door.) > There's no upside to keeping two, as far as I can tell, and there's = definitely the potential for interoperability problems. I think Ari=E2=80=99s point stands. What we could do is make it more explicit that a SenML implementation = now has to heed both registries. But there never was a MUST on actually = being able to process all registry 1 entries anyway, so I don=E2=80=99t = quite know what that would mean for registry 2. We did everything that = is needed to make it *easy* to implement registry 2, apart maybe from = asking IANA to provide a JSON file with the registrations. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten --=20 last-call mailing list last-call@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call From nobody Tue Oct 29 08:52:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D739E120802; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:51:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NL2yQOtHjeIj; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from episteme.net (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E75CD120830; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 08:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDC592456D3; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:51:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PrJO257dtCci; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:51:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.43.27] (unknown [172.58.139.162]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 477EE92456C9; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:51:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Carsten Bormann" Cc: IETF , core , last-call@ietf.org Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:51:51 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13r5655) Message-ID: <8B0F2225-E97C-4BEF-9DC7-1A47DEE9E88B@episteme.net> In-Reply-To: References: <95F1979B-1A23-41F3-9869-6CD133C75269@ericsson.com> <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 15:51:59 -0000 On 29 Oct 2019, at 10:23, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Oct 29, 2019, at 15:16, Pete Resnick wrote: >> >> Add the scale column to the main registry and use one registry. > > The two registries have different policies (not in RFC 8228 > nomenclature but in DE practice). But you haven't justified not simply changing the policy for the primary registry. Make the DE practice, "Add it to the registry if it's a base unit or if it's in common use in another SDO." > If we treat entries with scale different from entries without scale, > this is exactly equivalent to having two registries. But that has not been the recommendation. > Except that it is trivial to write a program to curl the second > registry and convert a random SenML file to a clean main-registry-only > file. If these are muddled, you of course can write a slightly longer > program. I don't understand that statement. > The main difference remains one of signaling. How the signals > emanating from a standards document actually influence the world is > usually > not very well understood, so I can see why different people would have > different opinions here. There's signaling to implementers ("You have to deal with all of these entries") and then there's signaling to the outside world. We certainly want to get the former right, and there should be little difference of opinion there. On the latter, I actually think we agree: > I’d still prefer to signal that there is a clear difference between > using SI base units and furlongs per fortnight, and decent SenML > processors, given a choice, should do the former. That's a job for the DE, and can be expressed in the instructions to the DE. > (And I definitely want to signal that SenML is open for business, but > I think we are discussing alternatives that are roughly equivalent in > that respect, not sending away those other SDOs at the door.) Which is exactly why you should keep these in one registry: SDOs don't have to have second class citizenship in the registry. >> There's no upside to keeping two, as far as I can tell, and there's >> definitely the potential for interoperability problems. > > I think Ari’s point stands. I'm not sure which one. > What we could do is make it more explicit that a SenML implementation > now has to heed both registries. But there never was a MUST on > actually being able to process all registry 1 entries anyway, so I > don’t quite know what that would mean for registry 2. If the two registries have equivalent rules of use, that further justifies one registry to make sure they don't get treated differently. > We did everything that is needed to make it *easy* to implement > registry 2, apart maybe from asking IANA to provide a JSON file with > the registrations. It seems that ease of use is increased with one registry instead of two. Your justifications for the second registry really make no sense to me; it seems to me that all of them lead you to the conclusion that there should be one registry. Singapore is 3 weeks away. Perhaps you'd like to have 5-10 minutes on the agenda? pr -- Pete Resnick http://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best From nobody Tue Oct 29 10:15:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B741209B1; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:14:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3IxJcKOv7LzA; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F5A51209A8; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.102] (p548DCA87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 472dVv2tRfzyQp; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 18:14:47 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <8B0F2225-E97C-4BEF-9DC7-1A47DEE9E88B@episteme.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 18:14:46 +0100 Cc: last-call@ietf.org, IETF , core X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594062085.286371-73e58c83d733f873ae4919cd81547fc0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E744C58-C95B-42A9-B361-9D7EADB5EC2F@tzi.org> References: <95F1979B-1A23-41F3-9869-6CD133C75269@ericsson.com> <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> <8B0F2225-E97C-4BEF-9DC7-1A47DEE9E88B@episteme.net> To: Pete Resnick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:14:55 -0000 On Oct 29, 2019, at 16:51, Pete Resnick wrote: >=20 >> I=E2=80=99d still prefer to signal that there is a clear difference = between using SI base units and furlongs per fortnight, and decent SenML = processors, given a choice, should do the former. >=20 > That=E2=80=99s a job for the DE, and can be expressed in the = instructions to the DE. I can=E2=80=99t parse that. The difference is a signal to implementers, = not to the DE. If you muddle the signal to the implementers, the DE can=E2=80=99t fix = that (she would fix that by doing what?). >> (And I definitely want to signal that SenML is open for business, but = I think we are discussing alternatives that are roughly equivalent in = that respect, not sending away those other SDOs at the door.) >=20 > Which is exactly why you should keep these in one registry: SDOs = don=E2=80=99t have to have second class citizenship in the registry. We want to encourage SDOs to go for SI base units. We also want to = embrace SDOs that have data models that use legacy units. These know = the units are legacy, new data models should be encouraged to use SI = base units. Being open for business is the overriding concern here, if you were = asking us to write paragraph five in all upper case we would probably = accede to that if that somehow helps make the change happen. I would = still be against it. So, if that helps, we can merge the registries, add another column that = is either LEGACY or empty, and hope that most implementers still get the = message. This is further away from optimal, but indeed does work. It = also serves to pollute the primary registry with legacy stuff that = doesn=E2=80=99t belong there. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Oct 29 11:46:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FC7120168; Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: core@ietf.org Message-ID: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:46:11 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 18:46:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG of the IETF. Title : Extended Tokens and Stateless Clients in the Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) Author : Klaus Hartke Filename : draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2019-10-29 Abstract: This document provides considerations for alleviating CoAP clients and intermediaries of keeping per-request state. To facilitate this, this document additionally introduces a new, optional CoAP protocol extension for extended token lengths. This document updates RFCs 7252 and 8323. 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Re: [core] Constrained RESTful Environments (core) WG Virtual Meeting: 2019-10-30 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:49:29 -0000 On Oct 28, 2019, at 16:27, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > Because of the OneDM meeting at 1000 PDT, we probably should only meet = in CoRE for an hour. The OneDM meeting for today has been canceled, so we could use the full = 90 minute slot from 1700=E2=80=931830 CET =3D=3D 0900-1030 PDT. Before diving into CoRAL/CoRE applications, we should briefly talk about = closing the WGLC comments on stateless (addressed in = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-03 which could be = submitted to IESG now). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Oct 30 08:21:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F42120C43; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:21:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hFQK7iBOT4rR; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp118.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp118.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.118]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 421E6120C4D; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Auth-ID: fluffy@iii.ca Received: by smtp7.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fluffy-AT-iii.ca) with ESMTPSA id 5099550D7; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:21:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: fluffy@iii.ca Received: from [10.1.3.91] (d75-159-246-1.abhsia.telus.net [75.159.246.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/5.7.12); Wed, 30 Oct 2019 11:21:02 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 09:21:00 -0600 Cc: Pete Resnick , Hytonen Harri , "core-chairs@ietf.org" , "Gillmore, Matthew" , "last-call@ietf.org" , core Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Ari_Ker=C3=A4nen?= , "draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org" , IETF Crazy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:21:18 -0000 If we are going to have add theses secondary scaled units, I do agree = with Ari & Carten=E2=80=99s arguments that having them in a secondary = registry that is machine readable is the right way to do it. In fact = would be better if IANA also made them available over git but that is a = different topic. But here is the problems I see: Currently interoperability in IoT is a mess and the 20+ SDOs in this = space does not help. Us trying to meet the conflicting needs of all = theses SDOs will also not help. So let me try and clarity some of the = problems with this draft as it stands. Imagine that today the secondary table has mm but not cm. I write my = software to process mm and ship it. Next week cm is added, my software = can=E2=80=99t process that, and in many IoT cases, it will take years to = be upgraded. At this point, standardizing the table does nothing for = anyone and is harmful in that it suggests that things will work together = since they are senml but they will not. It=E2=80=99s true that a new = unit nothing to do with distance could be added to main table but the = way that table is done, that would be rare, and very unlikely my = software needs it if my software deals with distance. However, if my = software knows and uses m and mm, very likely the cm makes sense for it = to use but it can=E2=80=99t.=20 The argument for having this second table seems to be an argument to = avoiding a single floating point multiple on the IoT decide. Keep in = mind this is a device that probably supports EC crypto to send the data. = I have not heard any argument that this single multiple is too high a = burden on the device.=20 The expert review advice for this new table is woefully inadequate for = thd broad range of questions the expert will need to answer. For = example, will we add =E2=80=9Cfurlongs per fortnight=E2=80=9D? why not? = Will we add micro-fortnights as a unit? Several RFC use fortnights = (Thank you Dave Oran) The expert review advise does not cover what is probably the single = biggest unit issue with uses. That is dose the type of thing being = measured belong in the unit in some cases. For example, is parts per = million of oxygen a different unit that parts per million of carbon = dioxide? I realize the unit purist would say those are both simply a = ratio but if you look at how practitioners use this stuff, theses are = totally different units. This draft does not cover how to deal with = that. On a side note, I would see way more value of this secondary table = if we were clear that we were going to allow both ppm_O2 and ppm_CO2 . = However in the past, we argued that was better placed in the name in = SENML or in a secondary tag value.=20 As a trivial side note =E2=80=A6. the draft is just wrong on how it = modifies the expert guidance from the 2nd registry. It says remove rules = 4 and 5 from RFC8428. However the examples we are talking about for = this will also probably violate rules 1, 2, 3, 7, 8. I think this would = have to be addressed before approving this draft.=20 So let's get back to the fundamental issue. Why are we doing this? Some = other SDO wants it is not really an answer. Understanding why the other = SDO wants it would be a good answer. Do the reasons cause more good than = interoperability problems that come out of it. I tried to get info from = a few other SDO about this but I failed. I=E2=80=99d like to hear more = about why we should do this. I=E2=80=99m not seeing big value in the = saving the floating point calc on the device but perhaps there is a = compelling use case where that matters that I am not thinking of.=20 I think if I understood why people want this, it might change my mind.=20= > On Oct 29, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Ari Ker=C3=A4nen = wrote: >=20 > Hi Pete, >=20 > =EF=BB=BFCarsten replied to many of your questions/comments below, but = perhaps one more point to mention is that the additional registry makes = it simpler to build a system specification for SenML use where you can = simply point that all implementations in that system should use the = units from the first registry. Since all the units in the second = registry have an equivalent non-scaled-and-shifted version in the first = registry, that is rather feasible. Also many implementations are likely = to "implement" only a small subset of the units since they would use = them to simply check that a value is the kind of value they expected to = receive.=20 >=20 > That said, the most important thing is to get these new units = registered as soon as possible, in one or two registries, so that we = don't hold back our stakeholders using SenML. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Ari >=20 >> On 29. Oct 2019, at 16.16, Pete Resnick wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Ari, >>=20 >> What is the upside to having a minimal set of unscaled units when all = implementations are going to have to be able to interpret all of the = entries from both registries? An implementation can't keep comparisons = simple, because it's going to have to deal with all of the new entries = anyway. If an implementation is allowed to not implement the ones in the = second registry, then that does lead to the interoperability problems = Cullen is worried about. Even if if the document says that you MUST be = able to interpret values from both registries, the downside is the = possibility that implementations might simply ignore the second = registry. And once you have the second registry, I don't see that = there's any reason to prefer any of the entries in the original = registry: You have to be able to handle both, and since everyone has to = handle both, there's not reason not to send them either. >>=20 >> Add the scale column to the main registry and use one registry. = There's no upside to keeping two, as far as I can tell, and there's = definitely the potential for interoperability problems. >>=20 >> pr >>=20 >>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 14:26, Ari Ker=C3=A4nen wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Pete, >>>=20 >>> I don't have a strong objection for using the same registry for all = units, but I think the second registry is a better approach since that = allows us to keep the first registry in its original purpose: a minimal = set of unscaled units where you would use the numeric part of the value = to express the scale. This is still the best approach for many use cases = / systems since it allows you to get by with a small amount of = identifiers and keeps comparisons across values simple (you don't need = to normalize values based on unit's scale before doing comparisons = etc.). If we put all the units in the same registry, systems (or their = specifications) that would like to have this property would have to = state somehow which of the units in the single registry one should use. >>>=20 >>> Also the second registry has the "scale" column that indicates the = relation (and enables automatic translation) to the units in the first = registry. I guess we could get the same effect by extending the first = registry with the scaling field, but at least to me the second registry = feels like a cleaner option. And I don't see big downsides for having = separate registries for these; both contain still valid SenML units. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> Ari >>>=20 >>>>> On 28. Oct 2019, at 20.58, Pete Resnick = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Matt, Ari, and Harri, >>>>=20 >>>> While you give good support for adding these units, and I am OK = with that idea, do you have any objection to adding them to the main = registry, which was the other suggestion that Cullen made? I still have = not seen a convincing argument not to make these part of the main = registry. >>>>=20 >>>> pr >>>>=20 >>>>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:40, Gillmore, Matthew wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Cullen, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I am the chair of the IPSO working group in OMA and also support = what Ari wrote. During the last IETF in Montreal, stakeholders from the = IPSO working group along with the Core working group met and it was = consensus amongst both working groups that the second registry is how we = would like to move forward. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Matt >>>>>=20 >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: ietf On Behalf Of Ari Ker=C3=A4nen >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:37 PM >>>>> To: Cullen Jennings >>>>> Cc: core-chairs@ietf.org; IETF Crazy ; core = ; draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [core] Last Call: = (Additional Units for SenML) = to Proposed Standard >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Cullen, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Carsten already replied to some of these issues later in the = thread, but let me add some more viewpoints. >>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 22. Oct 2019, at 17.06, Cullen Jennings = wrote: >>>>>> I am strongly opposed to the secondary registry - it will = significantly harm interoperability. This could be resolved by not = adding the items in the secondary repository or by adding them to the = main repository. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Having a registry of stuff that may or may not work simply means = that we will have less interoperability because what you can not decide = what is valid SenML or not. Sure some of the device vendors making = things that produce SenML have thought this was a good idea in the past = but I=E2=80=99d like to hear from a bunch of the people that have to = process the SenML data that is produced and see if they think it is a = good idea. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Both registries would work and their use would result in valid = SenML. In a sense the second registry is almost the same as "adding them = to the main repository", but having the second registry enables us to = give better guidance which units to use/prefer and also provide the = translation to the "main registry units". >>>>>=20 >>>>>> The working group discussed this for a long time and was against = the items that are being added to the secondary repository. >>>>>> If there is a large group of people that agree the consensus has = changed, then this should simply be put in the main registry. Many = people believe that since SenML is not meant to be human readable, = having a canonical form of just meters with a floating point number is = better than having both km, mm, and god only knows what else. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Yes, the canonical form of "just meters" is still the recommended = way in general, but that approach did not work as well as we hoped for = all use cases. For example when your sensor value is always in integers = of mm/h, it's more convenient and efficient to send integer values than = multiples of 2.777e-7. Also in many use cases there is a = well-established scaled unit that is used in the industry and forcing to = use a different one didn't turn out to be very productive (we can still = recommend, though, and that's one of the reasons why we are proposing an = additional registry). Finally, legacy models that use non-scaled units = but would like to use SenML as the wire format and units registry would = be expensive to update to use only non-scaled units. >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I note the secondary repository add mm but not cm. How is this = insanity going to work out? How will analytics code trying to process = this data know what it can use or not use. If we are going down this = path, this is the wrong way to do it. The right way is to define a set = of all SI prefixes and say they can be used with any unit. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Any implementation should not try to use anything that is not in = the IANA registry. We did also consider to enable all SI prefixes, but = concluded that it is still useful to have the smallest reasonable set of = units to facilitate interoperability. If there's a real use case that = uses a unit with SI prefix that is missing, it can be simply registered. = Also not all units in the additional registry would work with just = different SI prefix (e.g., min or dBm). >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ari >>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 11:42 AM, The IESG = wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> The IESG has received a request from the Constrained RESTful >>>>>>> Environments WG >>>>>>> (core) to consider the following document: - 'Additional Units = for SenML' >>>>>>> as Proposed Standard >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and = solicits >>>>>>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments = to >>>>>>> the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-10-30. Exceptionally, >>>>>>> comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, = please >>>>>>> retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated = sorting. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Abstract >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> The Sensor Measurement Lists (SenML) media type supports the >>>>>>> indication of units for a quantity represented. This short = document >>>>>>> registers a number of additional unit names in the IANA registry = for >>>>>>> Units in SenML. It also defines a registry for secondary units = that >>>>>>> cannot be in SenML's main registry as they are derived by linear >>>>>>> transformation from units already in that registry; RFC 8428 is >>>>>>> updated to also accept these units. >=20 > --=20 > last-call mailing list > last-call@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call From nobody Wed Oct 30 08:41:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3256E12002F for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6vd6C9yWo65G for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A25C12022A for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0038.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0038.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473CNT09Fdz10fs; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:41:12 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:41:12 +0100 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594142868.408064-56c852394aef159759482975ae12f9f5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> To: core X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [core] draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt: very constrained servers X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:41:21 -0000 On Oct 29, 2019, at 19:46, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG = of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Extended Tokens and Stateless Clients in the = Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) > Author : Klaus Hartke > Filename : draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt Thank you, Klaus. While I haven=E2=80=99t completed by chair=E2=80=99s review of the new = version yet, one issue stands out, as it cannot really be solved = beautifully, and it is hard to give advice that properly covers all the = situations. If a server supports extended token lengths but receives a request with a token of a length it is unwilling or unable to handle, it MUST NOT reject the message, as that would imply that extended token lengths are not supported at all. Instead, if the server cannot handle the request at the time, it SHOULD return a 5.03 (Service Unavailable) response; if the server will never be able to handle (e.g., because the token is too large), it SHOULD return a 4.00 (Bad Request) response. (=E2=80=A6followed by a few design notes that are useful to read.) The situation that may not be properly covered here is a constrained = server that doesn=E2=80=99t have resources to handle a full-size IP = packet, e.g. for performing outward adaptation layer fragmentation of = the response. So far, we haven=E2=80=99t really had a =E2=80=9Cyou must be this tall = to play=E2=80=9D on CoAP, and that includes message size. We do have = recommendations (1152 bytes, Section 4.6 of RFC 7252), but these are = more for guiding a client. A server might have resources that genuine = never need large requests, and it has control over the response size = (e.g., using block-wise where needed). With an incoming token of = essentially unlimited length (dreaming up a random limit doesn=E2=80=99t = help, either), this situation changes. So what can a constrained server that is limited to, say, 256-byte = packets, do? * It can reject all extended token lengths. Safe, but makes it less = useful for stateless proxying. * It can accept, say, extended token lengths up to 37 bytes. Great. = Now, the above means: If a client sends a request with a 999 byte token, the server * cannot send a response, because that would need to copy the full token * cannot send a Reject, because that has a MUST NOT in the text above So it seems the current text requires it to remain silent. That sure = works, and is easy to implement, but makes for a slow and wasteful = discovery process. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Oct 30 08:52:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F99A120A1E; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hL5tfrfFzTKK; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18E471209EB; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0038.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0038.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473Ccq36n4z10kS; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:51:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <750076667.151901572276367587.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd101.webex.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:51:54 +0100 Cc: core@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594143511.338971-95e462c925c8f294468cf5f08a0ed98c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6080BCFD-445B-4FE5-B850-2AD19D43CB81@tzi.org> References: <750076667.151901572276367587.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd101.webex.com> To: core-chairs@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [core] NEW LINK: Re: Webex meeting changed: Virtual Interim X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:52:07 -0000 Er, Webex now believes again the meeting was at 1500Z, and then went = ahead and canceled it (according to error messages), but then it=E2=80=99s= still there. I can=E2=80=99t build a mental model of this behavior, = but I would expect something does not work right. I simply have scheduled a new meeting for 1555Z today (so we have some = time to find out what=E2=80=99s not working). The new meeting link is: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/e.php?MTID=3Dmb7c9d12599f3f522dc89d4dfb9a45881= Etherpad for minutes: = https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-20191030-core Sorry for the confusion; I wasn=E2=80=99t aware that something is broken = with retiming recurring meetings. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On Oct 28, 2019, at 16:26, CORE Working Group = wrote: >=20 > =20 > CORE Working Group changed the Webex meeting information. > =20 > When it's time, join the Webex meeting here. > =20 > Meeting number (access code): 648 636 609 > Meeting password: constrained > =20 > Occurs every 2 week(s) on Wednesday effective Wednesday, 30. October = 2019 until Wednesday, 13. 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Best regards, Michael > On Oct 30, 2019, at 3:49 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > On Oct 28, 2019, at 16:27, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>=20 >> Because of the OneDM meeting at 1000 PDT, we probably should only = meet in CoRE for an hour. >=20 > The OneDM meeting for today has been canceled, so we could use the = full 90 minute slot from 1700=E2=80=931830 CET =3D=3D 0900-1030 PDT. >=20 > Before diving into CoRAL/CoRE applications, we should briefly talk = about closing the WGLC comments on stateless (addressed in = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-core-stateless-03 which could be = submitted to IESG now). >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core From nobody Wed Oct 30 14:20:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 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<41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> To: Hytonen Harri X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:36:57 -0000 (Limiting CC list to CoRE WG:) > On Oct 31, 2019, at 08:17, Hytonen Harri = wrote: >=20 > As explained before, it's not matter of saving floating point = calculations, but preserving the original precision of the measurement.=20= I think this is an interesting statement. This certainly was not the reason why we were going for the secondary = units (as Ari said, these are about support for legacy data models). But I=E2=80=99m still curious how, say, expressing precipitation in mm/h = is preserving the precision better than expressing it in m/s after = scaling it by 3.6e6. Sure, that floating point calculation has a = rounding error, but that will usually be on the order of 1/2**24 (or = 1/2**53 if your sensor has double precision floating point), while the = instrument resolution is likely on the order of 1/2**10 or 1/2**12 (as = you can see, I know nothing about precipitation sensors). Note that formats such as CBOR or JSON cannot *indicate* precision or = accuracy (or uncertainty in general) within a single number; there is no = way to say what conventionally is written down as 8.0 vs. 8.000 (even in = JSON, where both forms can be written, these have exactly the same = semantics). So that would be a separate issue (easily addressed by = putting information about the uncertainty into separate numbers, often = in the metadata as it often doesn=E2=80=99t change between = measurements). Note also that the terminology here often requires clarification or = explicit referencing; e.g., IEEE 754 uses =E2=80=9Cprecision=E2=80=9D = essentially for =E2=80=9Cresolution=E2=80=9D, not for =E2=80=9Cprecision=E2= =80=9D as used in metrology(*) (which is essentially =E2=80=9Crepeatabilit= y=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Creproducibility=E2=80=9D in the VIM [1]). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten [1]: https://www.bipm.org/utils/common/documents/jcgm/JCGM_200_2008.pdf =E2=80=9CInternational vocabulary of metrology =E2=80=94 Basic and = general concepts and associated terms (VIM)=E2=80=9D (*) applying metrology to meteorology sensors :-)= From nobody Thu Oct 31 04:53:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EA8120125 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 04:53:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=vaisala.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) 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ESMTPSA id 87CFD17B; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:36:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 4560 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 13:36:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:36:56 +0100 From: Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ams=FCss?= To: Core WG mailing list , Klaus Hartke Message-ID: <20191031133656.GA17667@hephaistos.amsuess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Archived-At: Subject: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 13:37:07 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Klaus and CoRE, in preparation for an ERT -08 I also revisited the section on stateless proxies (which we claim to be possible for blockwise transfers by adding the Request-Tag disambiguator to all block-wise requests). Whenever there is Block1 involved, things are good -- all request messages carry a block-wise option, and the proxy adds a Request-Tag. When there is no Block1 involved and the clien doesn't send early size negotiation, we get requests without any block options. As we describe it now, the proxy wouldn't add a Request-Tag (for it'd need to add it on *all requests* otherwise). The client gets its first block back, and starts asking for the second one. Only then, the proxy knows it's blockwise and adds a Request-Tag. That's fine for operations that are random-access on the server side (for which Request-Tag wouldn't be needed but the proxy can't tell), but for non-random-access operations, that incurs the risk of getting a "Sorry can't server Block2:1 as you didn't reqeust Block2:0 before" (which is atypical in GET scenarios but likely in POST ones). There might be trivial recovery in some scenarios where a client sees that and retries with a Block2:0 ab initio (providing such a retry is safe to do), but a) that may trigger whichever action twice, b) is two round-trips later, and c) I don't know whether clients actually behave that way. Sending a Request-Tag all the time would be vast overkill. With Extended-Token-as-an-option we wouldn't need this at all, but as mentioned yesterday, that boat probably sailed (though I don't remember the reasons any more). What to do about that? Don't know right now. Ideas welcome. KR c --=20 To use raw power is to make yourself infinitely vulnerable to greater power= s. -- Bene Gesserit axiom --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEECM1tElX6OodcH7CWOY0REtOkveEFAl2643UACgkQOY0REtOk veHtdQ/+Iog1hUatctDfNObBG45ekzKQ5+kMrJsqShqQbpA0fHxdz7SBAU6heCFH pC1MSOX4n/nNpMrUaJcyQQduavJmy6NfavYUwG/Alp7tB4FvOXedCmMgOlFxPeVi FUT2XUoxs3emdUpGyVxT8XqFUJTVGXYY2PBn6H+NrdAFIG9OwRHQVmA9nWcIjJHx xFyi2ELLOd4/QPjFdW1c2zaWsb+qi7I0+xnsQoPslYgQ864nu5Z/TzdtF2/rIzJp u+nWna008+I8PLCtrvitVpK0DF4qAagHf9ZTSSXyyE3ob4cFHGwZlLqSQXsAS3dX QCCEnMalOhRwiK5XrpckvBBEKku7X0NDHbGZ26NGIaDaghmKqkyCQBMrj5j0KIqQ /QfJdRBWt3AXLpQOVrk/OZyvOGXS5ot1E0useMK5/GZ+Iz8OXyyrXWM9y63/SHtA fr1i4PvYDySTfgSck/nhHTQbTrU/DYWWQRmCGTxU55ptx6Lto7eiVBtxaIzlULtq 2GZR9A8i2TsMtLGySgVvbYZpxFBOxZbLs76pCMoCOwSdOGEqtzUl1iLaf2nUhDIx +0I8BnaOCd9iRN7slJ8Zz0258n03sQLhRMFeJcb4YvjFRLUVgiLRk8EN9wnRDQyx 78y1tXhgyXOwwIQ0boPqR48WsUQ3Riy43Hum6BGhtkrTem9ZfGU= =wrEa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From nobody Thu Oct 31 07:51:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA95120908 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J2JgJvjgGkOL for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.amsuess.com (alt.prometheus.amsuess.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:190:3064::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 921131208AF for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (095129206250.cust.akis.net [95.129.206.250]) by prometheus.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227F346D08; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:50:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (hermes.amsuess.com [10.13.13.254]) by poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1A136; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:50:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from hephaistos.amsuess.com (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010:6d78:bd47:b07:7e5c]) by poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63B177A; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:50:51 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 12026 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:50:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:50:48 +0100 From: 'Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ams=FCss'?= To: Jim Schaad Cc: Core WG mailing list Message-ID: <20191031145048.GB25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> References: <20191031133656.GA17667@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <009101d58ff6$22d85f70$68891e50$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <009101d58ff6$22d85f70$68891e50$@augustcellars.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:51:02 -0000 --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Isn't this the ETag not Request-Tag? This is about the server knowing which response to send back out. In the later phase of a Block1+2 operation, there is neither Block1 nor a payload sent with the requests that pull out the rest of the response body. The server, in the proxy-less case, would rely on the endpoint to know which operation those belong to, and would need a Request-Tag to tell them apart. A stateless proxy couldn't tell whether those later Block2 come from the tail of a Block1+2 operation or from a Block2-only one, so it would send a Request-Tag. (I originally thought it could tell that it's not definitely not a Block1+2 follow-up if there is a non-empty payload in the Block2:>0 requests, but reading RFC7959 Section 2.4 again -- is there, at all? There's no example of a non-zero-but-non-block1-either exchange in the spec; "the requester may retrieve additional blocks of the resource representation by sending further requests with the same options as the initial request and a Block2 Option giving the block number and block size desired" but doesn't tell about payload. I feel I should know that for certain but am embarassed I don't). KR c --=20 To use raw power is to make yourself infinitely vulnerable to greater power= s. -- Bene Gesserit axiom --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEECM1tElX6OodcH7CWOY0REtOkveEFAl269MUACgkQOY0REtOk veEFvhAAzdtuV8a0Uih5+FcYSDjDQ9V2rxqTonuy5jsw1gzV/AlJsjGM5+NHUQyu GqIzQfWL4o5LLvqM7tI4gtivijb4mbAsRiBiZzpcd/gD7iembvjnIfbLKqb0+RWJ FUJdq9vmsnjGDgVTtCrXMEAhMN9rDqQXMpNB2Q8kSz4+dNcf0xnKvCxB0APiOlia Jr9yhNJ+U7j5b1AoXHLfCPr9pN9vE6D8wcX7tdemszX67bf59TSnpYSvJa9xzA2n RHwOvCtG1+8QtbJPmAdU+6Bf++/waQY+dK6rU/M0z9fKabxR/etnkyb/yuXWpMWh IHIZHYQ8IZb5DoMRCxJxMGInzZpEVym3euRDwU3qtra6TWC4mOd5L6NFHJk4kovY uwidnX9bYnOB3imQcv8SMkGejdTKd5UCouO/5JweOzOW6BFtq+l0MS4k/iUuBfz9 6hDgZPRXEeeiqphDHHli0tQuS9XcmQFdEddXZ7qouEs40hD5t9JIf5MVsOvxAVle 1PFqUO9otrcn3gGeAxWNhxxV2NnQkNohGPg9+Kr4TxwtF7wD79ZebrkRWLaUa09K o+Nyu4eLMXYSzZdTnpjrBn7nIahf49NCA43GMn24lLBTDyxJqXZ1/Npq9zVBUQHC 3Vqj5iDEvGTWzbHOPawjfWLmPtYCwcZNbm7VntEbb3unhYC9fpg= =41Nu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- From nobody Thu Oct 31 07:54:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E0F1207FE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CH1mHYCmReHu for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp110.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (smtp110.iad3b.emailsrvr.com [146.20.161.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C8A0120811 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Auth-ID: fluffy@iii.ca Received: by smtp6.relay.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fluffy-AT-iii.ca) with ESMTPSA id 310AE20147; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 11:01:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: fluffy@iii.ca Received: from [10.1.3.91] (d75-159-246-1.abhsia.telus.net [75.159.246.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:25 (trex/5.7.12); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:54:40 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_83B84691-D0C3-4EE2-B535-522055373E6F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:54:37 -0600 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Ari_Ker=C3=A4nen?= , "draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units@ietf.org" , IETF Crazy , "Gillmore, Matthew" , "core-chairs@ietf.org" , core , Pete Resnick , "last-call@ietf.org" Message-Id: <607F8E1D-487B-49E0-A55B-131888944EDB@iii.ca> References: <41C0F8EE-6A11-4B07-BA18-7DE106F03183@episteme.net> To: Hytonen Harri X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] [Last-Call] Last Call: (Additional Units for SenML) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:54:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_83B84691-D0C3-4EE2-B535-522055373E6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Oct 31, 2019, at 1:17 AM, Hytonen Harri = wrote: >=20 > On Oct 30, 2019, at 17:21, Cullen Jennings > wrote: >> So let's get back to the fundamental issue. Why are we doing this? = Some other SDO wants it is not really an answer. Understanding why the = other SDO wants it would be a >> good answer. Do the reasons cause more good than interoperability = problems that come out of it. I tried to get info from a few other SDO = about this but I failed. I=E2=80=99d like to >> hear more about why we should do this. I=E2=80=99m not seeing big = value in the saving the floating point calc on the device but perhaps = there is a compelling use case where that >> matters that I am not thinking of. >=20 > As explained before, it's not matter of saving floating point = calculations, but preserving the original precision of the measurement.=20= >=20 > BR, > Harri Hytonen I am not at all understanding this. Can you work me through an example ? = I suspect that you might be giving senml more credit than it deserves.=20= --Apple-Mail=_83B84691-D0C3-4EE2-B535-522055373E6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Oct 31, 2019, at 1:17 AM, Hytonen Harri <harri.hytonen@vaisala.com> wrote:

On Oct 30, 2019, at 17:21, = Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>  wrote:
So let's get back to the fundamental = issue. Why are we doing this? Some other SDO wants it is not really an = answer. Understanding why the other SDO wants it would be a
good answer. Do the reasons cause more good than = interoperability problems that come out of it. I tried to get info from = a few other SDO about this but I failed. I=E2=80=99d like to
hear more about why we should do this. I=E2=80=99m not seeing = big value in the saving the floating point calc on the device but = perhaps there is a compelling use case where that
matters = that I am not thinking of.

As explained before, it's not = matter of saving floating point calculations, but preserving the = original precision of the measurement. 

BR,
Harri = Hytonen

I am not at = all understanding this. Can you work me through an example ? I suspect = that you might be giving senml more credit than it = deserves. 





= --Apple-Mail=_83B84691-D0C3-4EE2-B535-522055373E6F-- From nobody Thu Oct 31 08:29:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD2912006F for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BpbKtacpwypE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8A2120811 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jude (73.180.8.170) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:28:53 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Christian_Ams=FCss'?= CC: 'Core WG mailing list' References: <20191031133656.GA17667@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <009101d58ff6$22d85f70$68891e50$@augustcellars.com> <20191031145048.GB25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> In-Reply-To: <20191031145048.GB25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:28:51 -0700 Message-ID: <00a001d58fff$e7d9f0f0$b78dd2d0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJXh/xr2DZ6PZdZqaLt/5Sh6OoZNAEdZT+PAYTc7NWmW92soA== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [73.180.8.170] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:29:15 -0000 If it is a fetch then it has payload -----Original Message----- From: 'Christian Ams=FCss' =20 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 7:51 AM To: Jim Schaad Cc: Core WG mailing list Subject: Re: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag > Isn't this the ETag not Request-Tag? This is about the server knowing which response to send back out. In the later phase of a Block1+2 operation, there is neither Block1 nor a = payload sent with the requests that pull out the rest of the response body. The server, in the proxy-less case, would rely on the endpoint to know which operation those belong to, and would need a Request-Tag to tell them = apart. A stateless proxy couldn't tell whether those later Block2 come from the tail of a Block1+2 operation or from a Block2-only one, so it would send = a Request-Tag. (I originally thought it could tell that it's not definitely not a Block1+2 follow-up if there is a non-empty payload in the Block2:>0 requests, but reading RFC7959 Section 2.4 again -- is there, at all? There's no example of a non-zero-but-non-block1-either exchange in the = spec; "the requester may retrieve additional blocks of the resource = representation by sending further requests with the same options as the initial request = and a Block2 Option giving the block number and block size desired" but = doesn't tell about payload. I feel I should know that for certain but am = embarassed I don't). KR c -- To use raw power is to make yourself infinitely vulnerable to greater powers. -- Bene Gesserit axiom From nobody Thu Oct 31 08:38:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D171207FE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fn0lfqbOzsWB for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.amsuess.com (alt.prometheus.amsuess.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:190:3064::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23D4D1200F4 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (095129206250.cust.akis.net [95.129.206.250]) by prometheus.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C22946D0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:38:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (hermes.amsuess.com [10.13.13.254]) by poseidon-mailhub.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B90436; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:38:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from hephaistos.amsuess.com (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b18:c13b:8010:6d78:bd47:b07:7e5c]) by poseidon-mailbox.amsuess.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1324A7A; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:38:46 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 17053 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:38:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:38:42 +0100 From: 'Christian =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ams=FCss'?= To: Jim Schaad Cc: 'Core WG mailing list' Message-ID: <20191031153842.GD25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> References: <20191031133656.GA17667@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <009101d58ff6$22d85f70$68891e50$@augustcellars.com> <20191031145048.GB25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <00a001d58fff$e7d9f0f0$b78dd2d0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a001d58fff$e7d9f0f0$b78dd2d0$@augustcellars.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:38:52 -0000 --ieNMXl1Fr3cevapt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 08:28:51AM -0700, Jim Schaad wrote: > If it is a fetch then it has payload In the Block2:1 request? That's good to hear b/c that's what I thought but couldn't support. Still, that leaves any messages that are Block2:>0 with an empty payload undecidible for a proxy (could be tail of Block1+2, could be just tail of Block2 and the request body is just empty), on which it'd need to tack a Request-Tag, so as to ensure that the correct result of an earlier Block1+2 operation is pulled out of the server. (I'm not saying I'd advocate build servers that have such statefullness, but 7959 allows such constructs, and I'd like to see all of that work through a stateless proxy.) 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I'm only answering the points that are not addressed in parallel by G=F6ran and John. Comments that resulted in a simple probably uncontroversial text change were moved to the end of the mail; they are reflected in a [pending pull request]. > # High level suggestions # (Out of scope here, but to get it documented: The topic intros will move to the topics as you suggested. Appendix A will stay and maybe grow a few words on its applicability to not give the impression that this is the generally recommended algorithm for all scenarios). > * Section 3.2 >=20 > I am not sure it is said anywhere what the server should do if it > supports the Request-Tag option and it receives it in a non-blockwise > message... I guess just discard, but it would be good to explicitely > state. >=20 > Also, could this option be used for something else? For example, I am > thinking of Observe operations, re-registration... Does not need to be > defined here, but if we MANDATE that it can only be used with > blockwise, we are practically stopping any other use that might come > up... I did consider making this a "MUST NOT process" for anything else, but I think that would rule out those other applications that you think of. Currently we state that they MUST NOT be present when neither Block1 nor Block2 is present (though, AFAIR, without good reason other that we don't see a use case). Should that be left in, or would you like to see that relaxed? > * Section 3.4.3 >=20 > I believe this section is missing something on the lines of:=20 >=20 > "Proxies that are aware of this specification can modify their > implementation to simply forward block operations." >=20 > Would you agree? It already says "If it [does X], it does not need to keep track of any further block state." say that? (I might add " and can simply forward the messages", but would that really add something?) KR c [pending pull request]: https://github.com/core-wg/echo-request-tag/pull/51 --- "simply fixed" comments: > " (Concurrent block-wise request operations are impossible with the > options of [RFC7959] because the second operation's block overwrites > any state of the first exchange.). > " >=20 > I believe this is true, but could you point to the section that states > that? I didn't manage to find it while checking. Reference made more precise, "from a single endpopoint" added. > " They can > still be treated as independent messages by the server (e.g. when it > sends 2.01/2.04 responses for every block), or initiate a new > operation (overwriting kept context) when the later message carries > Block1 number 0. > " > > I have a hard time parsing/understanding this paragraph, particularly fro= m "or initiate..." Split up into separate sentences for better clarity. > * Section 3.3 >=20 > " > Clients MUST NOT recycle a request tag unless the first operation has > concluded.=20 > " >=20 > in the case where a client supports but does not use Request-Tag, this > implies "concurrent block operations without Request-Tag are not > allowed". If that is the case, I would like that to be stated > explicitely. >=20 > (also minor, I'd like to add "that support Request-Tag" after "Clients") That requirement was already kind of conditional on the client using Request-Tag for a particular purpose -- for otherwise the "unless concluded" clause makes no sense, for that's defined by the purpose. Rephrased to pull in the purpose before the MUST and make that explicit. The "that support Request-Tag" comment should be obsolete by hat, for only who supports it can use it for something. (We did, in the chat earlier, consider asking the WG whether that'd all mean that we're updating RFC7959, but as we're now back to "If you want to achieve X, do Y" wording, I don't see necessity for such an update). > * Section 3.3 >=20 > The last sentence gives some requirements about where the Request-Tag > option can/musty be used per message. I felt the document was missing > on usage requirements (e.g. if it is set, it MUST be set for all > requests for a specific operation) Added to the initial (now split up) paragraph of that section. > * Section 3.4.2 >=20 > " > When initializing a new block-wise operation, a client has to look at > other active operations: >=20 > o If any of them is matchable to the new one, and the client neither > wants to cancel the old one nor postpone the new one, it can pick > a Request-Tag value that is not in use by the other matchable > operations for the new operation. >=20 > o Otherwise, it can start the new operation without setting the > Request-Tag option on it. > " >=20 > Does not cover the fact that Request-Tag can be omitted if that is a > different from the other matchable operations. ("pick a new value" > excludes it) Explicitly included as an option now. (Would have been even easier if there were a once-and-for-all definition of a "request-tag value" that can be absent or have the option's data, but that had long-winded wording in the last version that was in, and still might be mistaken by readers that don't have the precise definition at hand). --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEECM1tElX6OodcH7CWOY0REtOkveEFAl27BPwACgkQOY0REtOk veHQBg//X/y0F7KpdwRxDoOGWKFGjnK1rNg/Sze/GofuwIr/AuWOrxYG5Z7FyBuO NVpcFy8ZJvBZInXvETUw3SSXfP/+k7zTb9Kas37ixhftF8A3eQ0TQhz9lYEOI3Al b9UY1LTtwWwkh13tECNYC5kq2w3VF/RJAIHidbbd1RItuaeGBxt2sXV2/985Akhc 9Mss9tjO+3YKvtu8dHUaC+mPfWsFa4kGk2gkGS72vjIy2jlkLkto+yVjMbwzKRlU A/C22lb+NrVNb3B+C8z6QcskSfvCPZlFI8K0LKqeQJ5Z5odFcX63JflfcpyJNoHY bf2hZrcOcxlvG6qZswLMk9Bcy58ptHgwirHLpSkzSUj5iqFCxsXEo91ZT3Rlyv6S Ess0D29KdjXrkAz2yJuzGHme/moOQOqRVh3pr/6xf5GA8BtvgEHgA6LJ/I5B7gAU iLtxIHGUGrv7abeDbnHn08q24j9oci4xU8pQVmyGgrFL2lTMjw3hf2Pxxt3MHcnj wOiIWB0ZhQX7E/ixmIzGfJfbc/dALCaYwtT8xpRu+IICP7+SJGk5uja687HfliH6 435EPo058kkjry//0XiG0b8zTaLVPt8dc7nWDUQ4SICRrFBp491JOUXCOHDmiPDl x/ROqJmsO3sbuIHsYU/E+IHCrU5egF0EizPe0RqRNwixpmsYEI0= =GY8N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK-- From nobody Thu Oct 31 09:42:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietf.org Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E98F120074; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:41:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Linda Dunbar via Datatracker To: Cc: last-call@ietf.org, draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.all@ietf.org, core@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Linda Dunbar Message-ID: <157254010642.30489.13409170000311799067@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:41:46 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [core] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:41:47 -0000 Reviewer: Linda Dunbar Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-?? Reviewer: Linda Dunbar Review Date: 2019-10-31 IETF LC End Date: 2019-10-30 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: The document is very light, describing IANA registration for acronyms for various UNITs, such as "ms" for Millisecond, "min" for Minute, "kW" for Kilowatt, etc. While there is no problem of those acronyms, I don't really understand why it is necessary to have an RFC for this purpose. Many IETF areas don't even allow Gap Analysis drafts to be published as RFCs. Major issues: Minor issues: Nits/editorial comments: Linda Dunbar From nobody Thu Oct 31 09:59:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941E51200D7 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:59:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.865 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.865 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cZbMI8pXtagX for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD12C120099 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473s3z6dGrzyVh; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:59:11 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <20191031153842.GD25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:59:11 +0100 Cc: Jim Schaad , Core WG mailing list X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594233948.695075-6314b954e7599d6339a21e026f9d8cfc Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0AC425A1-E3C7-4AF5-820E-AF4B24E687AF@tzi.org> References: <20191031133656.GA17667@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <009101d58ff6$22d85f70$68891e50$@augustcellars.com> <20191031145048.GB25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> <00a001d58fff$e7d9f0f0$b78dd2d0$@augustcellars.com> <20191031153842.GD25593@hephaistos.amsuess.com> To: =?utf-8?Q?Christian_Ams=C3=BCss?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Stateless proxy and Request-Tag X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:59:16 -0000 I don=E2=80=99t understand how Request-Tag became necessary for Block2. For me that is a Block1-only addition. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Oct 31 10:08:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C0E120831 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:08:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.865 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.865 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FImvb9bw1WrI for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B33BE12012E for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473sGl2fT6z101p; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:08:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:08:30 +0100 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594234508.803881-28c6fc118871d838a5ccf2c4c7838dcc Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Core WG mailing list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [core] Chairs' review of draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:08:34 -0000 I did a review of draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt, with non-trivial = results below. (Editorial nits went directly to the author.) I haven=E2=80=99t independently verified that all reviewers=E2=80=99 = comments were addressed but will do this before we ship to the IESG what = likely will be -04. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten ## Minor The option value MUST NOT be less than 8 or greater than = 65804. If an option value outside this range is received, the value = MUST be clamped to this range. I am still not a fan of re-interpreting disallowed values. (Assuming there was later any reason to go beyond 65804, of course = allowing larger values and interpreting these as 65804 because a client knowing just this specification cannot make use of lengths >65804 makes sense. Not so sure about the values 0..7 though.) have been forwarded by an intermediary. To ensure that this = does not lead to inconsistent resource state, a stateless intermediary = MUST include the Request-Tag Option = [I-D.ietf-core-echo-request-tag] in block-wise transfers with a value that uniquely identifies = the client in the intermediary's namespace. -> To ensure that this does not lead to inconsistent resource state, a stateless intermediary that wants to forward requests with Block1 options will need to also include a distinguishing option such as the = Request-Tag Option [I-D.ietf-core-echo-request-tag] in a way that uniquely... When using AES-CCM, repeated use of the same nonce under the = same key Not just AES-CCM, just about any AEAD. Maybe say: When using an encryption mode that depends on a nonce, such as AES-CCM, ... ## Nits A client SHOULD NOT assume that extended token lengths are = supported by a server 60 minutes after receiving a response with an = extended token length, as network addresses may change. s/60/later than 60/ From nobody Thu Oct 31 10:21:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6019112008B; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:21:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.864 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.864 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ss5mR54lzDkp; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 992F212006A; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de (client-0191.vpn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.107.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473sYB0FSjzyTg; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:21:02 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <157254010642.30489.13409170000311799067@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 18:21:01 +0100 Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org, draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units.all@ietf.org, core@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594235259.739297-cb108e5fcfabd7cf9338bf62014895e0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C6A661E-CDA5-4E99-96E4-5DDC1A03B6A1@tzi.org> References: <157254010642.30489.13409170000311799067@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Linda Dunbar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-02 X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:21:09 -0000 Hi Linda, thank you for this review. > On Oct 31, 2019, at 17:41, Linda Dunbar via Datatracker = wrote: >=20 > Reviewer: Linda Dunbar > Review result: Ready >=20 > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. >=20 > For more information, please see the FAQ at >=20 > . >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-?? > Reviewer: Linda Dunbar > Review Date: 2019-10-31 > IETF LC End Date: 2019-10-30 > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat >=20 > Summary: The document is very light, describing IANA registration for = acronyms > for various UNITs, such as "ms" for Millisecond, "min" for Minute, = "kW" for > Kilowatt, etc. While there is no problem of those acronyms, I don't = really > understand why it is necessary to have an RFC for this purpose. Many = IETF areas > don=E2=80=99t even allow Gap Analysis drafts to be published as RFCs. Registrations to an existing registry indeed do not require an RFC. However, beyond registering a few values, this draft also =E2=80=94 creates a new registry and defines its expert review = instructions, =E2=80=94 updates Standards Track RFC 8428 to accept values from this = registry in a place previously governed only by a different registry. While there is still some ongoing debate about whether this was the = right approach to address the requirements, if we uphold this approach = we will require an RFC. 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Fri, 1 Nov 2019 07:44:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <27A826D9-5F28-4044-BE61-E7CD1C05EA90@arm.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 07:44:15 +0100 Cc: Core WG mailing list X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 594283453.793837-a02085aa838ecf724b63d1f1c2738c08 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <781AE8D3-761F-461E-A727-C918391E158D@tzi.org> References: <157237477119.11043.4363082013315464920@ietfa.amsl.com> <27A826D9-5F28-4044-BE61-E7CD1C05EA90@arm.com> To: Thomas Fossati X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [core] Chairs' review of draft-ietf-core-stateless-03.txt X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:44:21 -0000 Hi Thomas, thank you again for all your great input on this draft. > On Oct 31, 2019, at 23:19, Thomas Fossati = wrote: >=20 > On 31/10/2019, 17:08, "core on behalf of Carsten Bormann" = wrote: >>=20 >> When using AES-CCM, repeated use of the same nonce under the same >> key >>=20 >> Not just AES-CCM, just about any AEAD. >=20 > The problem is not with AEAD per se, we could have picked GCM-SIV and > there would have been no trouble. The problem is with the underlying > CTR. Right, that=E2=80=99s why my proposed text specifically talks about = =E2=80=9Cencryption mode that depends on a nonce=E2=80=9D. > Quibbles aside, the document recommends CCM -- over other AEAD > constructions -- and does so consciously, I think, to provide the best > trade-off between overall security, wire efficiency and processing = cost. >=20 > This point does not surface in the current text, but the = recommendation > for CCM is actually quite precise, and maybe worth an upper-case > RECOMMENDED? I agree that this is a good recommendation. It is not an = interoperability requirement, though (and 64 bits of authenticator may = actually be a bit low for some applications), so the purist in me = isn=E2=80=99t thrilled about using a BCP 14 keyword. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten