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Dear Crypto Review Panel members,

We wo= uld like to kindly remind that the CFRG chairs ask you to send all reviews = conducted on behalf of Crypto Review Panel CC'ing both crypto-panel@irtf.org and cfrg@irtf.org.

Thank you!

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Smyshlyaev" Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 18:54:56 +0300 Message-ID: To: Jean-Philippe Aumasson Cc: Nick Sullivan , crypto-panel@irtf.org, draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke@ietf.org, cfrg-chairs@ietf.org, Christopher Wood , Frederic Jacobs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d231ae05ac2364de" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 15:55:24 -0000 --000000000000d231ae05ac2364de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Jean-Philippe, Could you please confirm that you are happy with the changes made in draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-05, addressing your concerns?.. Regards, Stanislav, Alexey, Nick On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:16, Jean-Philippe Aumasson < jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote this review a few days ago after Chris and Fred contacted me: > > https://gist.github.com/veorq/76196fde31390a8696eac7e062c7b2ea > > Cheers,, > > JP > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan 40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Hi Stephen, >> >> This works for us. We look forward to your review. >> >> Nick (on behalf of the chairs) >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM Stephen Farrell >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be >>> coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that >>> to be considered disqualifying:-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> S. >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey >>> >>> On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote: >>> > Dear Crypto Panel members, >>> > >>> > Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel members >>> for a >>> > review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The >>> > document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key >>> encryption. >>> > It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM. >>> > >>> > This document went through last call and didn't receive many comments, >>> so a >>> > thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move >>> this >>> > document forward. >>> > >>> > Who would like to volunteer? >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > Nick (on behalf of chairs) >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Crypto-panel mailing list >>> > Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crypto-panel mailing list >> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >> > --000000000000d231ae05ac2364de Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Jean-Philippe,

Could you please co= nfirm that you are happy with the changes made in=C2=A0d= raft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-05, addressing your=C2=A0concerns?..
<= br>
Regards,
Stanislav, Alexey, Nick

On Wed, 17 Ju= n 2020 at 09:16, Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote this review a few days ago after Chris and Fred contacted= me:


=
Cheers,,

JP

<= /div>
O= n Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan <nick=3D40cloudflare.com@dmarc.i= etf.org> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

This works for us. W= e look forward to your review.

Nick (on behalf of = the chairs)

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.= tcd.ie> wrote:

I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be
coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that
to be considered disqualifying:-)

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey

On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote:
> Dear Crypto Panel members,
>
> Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel members = for a
> review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irt= f-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The
> document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key encrypt= ion.
> It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM.
>
> This document went through last call and didn't receive many comme= nts, so a
> thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move th= is
> document forward.
>
> Who would like to volunteer?
>
> Best regards,
> Nick (on behalf of chairs)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Crypto-panel mailing list
> Crypto-pane= l@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-= panel
>
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiya, I implemented draft -02 and will be doing -05 shortly. I didn't yet do that so haven't verified the test vectors. Will follow up if any issues arise. Overall this is ready to proceed IMO. If my entire review were ignored all would still be ok. I do have one thing I think the RG might want to discuss, a few minor comments and some very ignorable nits. Cheers, S. The thing to ponder relates to the IANA considerations. Why not add a "recommended" column a la TLS. The RG can hand over responsibility to some DEs appointed by the IESG and call for the same setup as TLS. (I.e. other than the initial values recommended =3D=3D yes requires IETF standards track, otherwise spec required.) If we don't do that then applications using HPKE will always each need to say which suites are MUSTs, leading to IMO mostly pointless variation and possibly worsening interop if libraries implement disjoint sets of suites. Minor comments: - Is random() needed? it only seems to be used in the context of "DeriveKeyPair(random(Nsk))" - Do we really need to s/HPKE-05/RFCXXXX/ later? Why not just change to "HPKE-first-rfc" once the RG are done with the document? (There can be delays @ IRSG and subsequently that I'd prefer not have to affect interop.) - p7 & elsewhere: refers to "HPKE-05 " - that space seems like a bad idea. I missed it until I got to p27. And it's not consistently present and the text is ambiguous as to whether the replacement ought be "RFCXXXX" or "RFCXXXX " - It strikes me as odd to not have any identifier for the public key being used but to have one for the PSK being used. If allowing the application to handle that for public keys works, why won't that work for PSKs? - DeriveKeyPair() for NIST curves requires the HPKE code to know the order of the various NIST curves. That seems like the kind of thing where bugs might arise that wouldn't be noticed much. I also don't think many crypto APIs would provide a ``get_order_as_integer(curve_id)`` function, so using the wrong value would seem not unlikely. I'd say maybe add the values to use here somewhere for each curve. If not in 7.1.2 then put in a forward reference. Perhaps also say what can happen if the wrong value for "order" is used. - p29: I'm not sure why section 8.8 is useful here. I think it'd be better deleted TBH - it might muddy the definition of "signature" for some people and doesn't seem to add much as-is. nits: - p4: PGP and fiveG don't depend on HPKE, whereas msl and esni do. Maybe worth saying that. - p5: I2OSP and OS2IP aren't expanded here - be no harm to do so - p6: Open as the opposite of Seal, doesn't seem like the best choice - there are too many functions called open() in too many contexts. Unseal would be better IMO. - p5: DeriveKeyPair was added after discussion in github (and maybe on the MLS list) but I don't recall any disussion of that on the CFRG list at all. Was there any? 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Smyshlyaev" Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:57:32 +0300 Message-ID: To: "crypto-panel@irtf.org" Cc: Watson Ladd , "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001688c105ac9b4bff" Archived-At: Subject: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 14:58:17 -0000 --0000000000001688c105ac9b4bff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Crypto Panel experts, Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? Regards, Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0= =BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 --------- =D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3.= =D0=B2 23:29 =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.= txt =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE competition which was the only one I found. I think it's ready for RGLC. On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. > > Title : SPAKE2, a PAKE > Authors : Watson Ladd > Benjamin Kaduk > Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2020-08-10 > > Abstract: > This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two parties > that share a password to derive a strong shared key with no risk of > disclosing the password. This method is compatible with any group, > is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security proof. This > document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg --=20 "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". --Rousseau. _______________________________________________ Cfrg mailing list Cfrg@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg --0000000000001688c105ac9b4bff Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Crypto Panel experts,

Could someone please take a quick look at t= he updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE se= lection process)?

Regard= s,
Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)
--------= -- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5= =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 ---------
=D0=9E= =D1=82: Watson Ladd <watsonbla= dd@gmail.com>
=D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 = =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 23:29
=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: = Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC= =D1=83: <cfrg@ietf.org>


This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the = PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0: Watson Ladd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: 16
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for tw= o parties
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a strong shared key with = no risk of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This method is compatible = with any group,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security p= roof.=C2=A0 This
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was no= t selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-= irtf-cfrg-spake2/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cf= rg-spake2-12
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2= =3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>
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> Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg



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--0000000000001688c105ac9b4bff-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 09:43:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4963A1182 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vna0EsGWLASw for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F0B3A0E75 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC24A300B25 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:43:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Mw_slmlwXMe2 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 438C5300AAF; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_990C61C0-2F84-4228-9D07-A52FC56C15C1" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 12:43:49 -0400 References: <159709115024.10897.5395496576031260366@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "crypto-panel@irtf.org" , "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:43:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_990C61C0-2F84-4228-9D07-A52FC56C15C1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as = =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one = balanced PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE.=20 What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish = the ones that were not selected too? Russ > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev = wrote: >=20 > Dear Crypto Panel experts, >=20 > Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking = into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? >=20 > Regards, > Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) >=20 > ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0= =BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 = --------- > =D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd > > =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 = =D0=B3. =D0=B2 23:29 > =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: = draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > >=20 >=20 > This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE > competition which was the only one I found. >=20 > I think it's ready for RGLC. >=20 > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM > wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. > > > > Title : SPAKE2, a PAKE > > Authors : Watson Ladd > > Benjamin Kaduk > > Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > > Pages : 16 > > Date : 2020-08-10 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two = parties > > that share a password to derive a strong shared key with no risk = of > > disclosing the password. This method is compatible with any = group, > > is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security proof. = This > > document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not = selected. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ = > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 = > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 = > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 = > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org = . > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ = > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cfrg mailing list > > Cfrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg = >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". > --Rousseau. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg = > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel --Apple-Mail=_990C61C0-2F84-4228-9D07-A52FC56C15C1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 > = We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecommend= ed by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - = CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. 

What was the point of the selection = process if we are going to publish the ones that were not selected = too?

Russ



On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com> = wrote:

Dear Crypto Panel = experts,

Could someone please take a quick look at the = updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE = selection process)?

Regards,
Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)

---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB= =D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0= =B8=D0=B5 ---------
=D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
=D0=94=D0=B0= =D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 = 23:29
=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: = draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: = <cfrg@ietf.org>


This fixes the comment on = missing identities received during the PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>         Title        =    : SPAKE2, a PAKE
>         Authors        =  : Watson Ladd
>                  =          Benjamin Kaduk
>         Filename      =   : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>         Pages        =    : 16
>         Date        =     : 2020-08-10
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for = two parties
>    that share a password to derive a strong shared key = with no risk of
>    disclosing the password.  This method is = compatible with any group,
>    is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a = security proof.  This
>    document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was = not selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ >
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12=
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cfrg mailing list
> Cfrg@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg



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= --Apple-Mail=_990C61C0-2F84-4228-9D07-A52FC56C15C1-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 09:47:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D263A1185 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:47:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.949, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isode.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FC8uoOP5de85 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (waldorf.isode.com [62.232.206.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4423A1184 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1597164451; d=isode.com; s=june2016; i=@isode.com; bh=qug7EmPpim1YrM9JBeSK7LPErSnDGb/hhwKbEZd0BsM=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=CKlYndadEPsQ10V/v1Z12Dr0I0qmDHVpP8Ve33AK9y8rijblM07xh/oji/SIp2LuomS5bw D9g5WWkAOeTSOjyzKg4iALAvVhFfgiz08mtw4/4vdZHi/kPxdV0Ldr/004Rc9Q5/RvLm2i 9vXs8c2S3xJDUjSXUKZifNgXjc31kgM=; Received: from [172.27.252.83] (connect.isode.net [172.20.0.72]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:47:31 +0100 To: Russ Housley , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" , "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" References: <159709115024.10897.5395496576031260366@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: <5f6565e7-49cb-32c4-1873-bac014cee965@isode.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:47:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------80D9FBC2C539DABE88C42C66" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:47:34 -0000 --------------80D9FBC2C539DABE88C42C66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russ, On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: > > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as=20 > =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balan= ced=20 > PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. > > What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish=20 > the ones that were not selected too? It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to=20 publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and=20 was not selected as one of the finalists. Best Regards, Alexey > > Russ > > > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev=20 >> > wrote: >> >> Dear Crypto Panel experts, >> >> Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking=20 >> into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? >> >> Regards, >> Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) >> >> ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 --------= - >> =D0=9E=D1=82: *Watson Ladd* > >> =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0= =B3. =D0=B2 23:29 >> =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-1= 2.txt >> =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > >> >> >> This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE >> competition which was the only one I found. >> >> I think it's ready for RGLC. >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM > > wrote: >> > >> > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 >> directories. >> > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. >> > >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Watson Ladd >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : = draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: 16 >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10 >> > >> > Abstract: >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two= parties >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a strong shared key with n= o risk of >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This method is compatible w= ith any group, >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security pr= oof.=C2=A0 This >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not= selected. >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ >> > >> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >> > >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >> > >> > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 >> submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org=20 >> . >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Cfrg mailing list >> > Cfrg@irtf.org >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >> >> >> >> --=20 >> "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". >> --Rousseau. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cfrg mailing list >> Cfrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >> _______________________________________________ >> Crypto-panel mailing list >> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > --------------80D9FBC2C539DABE88C42C66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Russ,

On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote:
> We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE.=C2=A0

What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish the ones that were not selected too?

It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and was not selected as one of the finalists.

Best Regards,

Alexey


Russ



On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

Dear Crypto Panel experts,

Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)?

Regards,
Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)

---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5= =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 --= -------
=D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com= >
=D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0= =B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 23:29
=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: <cfrg@ietf.org>


This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <= internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Watson Ladd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: 16
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which i= s a protocol for two parties
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a stro= ng shared key with no risk of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This me= thod is compatible with any group,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SPAK= E2 has a security proof.=C2=A0 This
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE compet= ition and it was not selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/d= raft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?= url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-d= rafts/
>
>
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--------------80D9FBC2C539DABE88C42C66-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 10:02:08 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8761E3A0814 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.949, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isode.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCjm_io2p9Dg for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (waldorf.isode.com [62.232.206.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FC93A080E for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1597165324; d=isode.com; s=june2016; i=@isode.com; bh=ZelqnniS/9mlmH2Jv5qDTQD48qZbi3TcPBxgExKhHlo=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=q505DsLNXqODTO6qN2vpzb5y3+2xj+ObU+ncqK4uj8frMx3waEEAePyBsU4KqYKR+dXRRm imcnpjiX4LOWXNxD72oTXCPopsvqP0Q5/h/mDZhXDZntEwsWA8JUt+C84Tu7WdPrL5n5Q3 C4PZWutwDoq5+dc0rRCTeFoX+PQSvlg=; Received: from [172.27.252.83] (connect.isode.net [172.20.0.72]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:02:04 +0100 From: Alexey Melnikov To: Russ Housley , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" References: <159709115024.10897.5395496576031260366@ietfa.amsl.com> <5f6565e7-49cb-32c4-1873-bac014cee965@isode.com> Cc: "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" Message-ID: <80792d11-5400-1c79-ac60-d28d2ae803f0@isode.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:01:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 In-Reply-To: <5f6565e7-49cb-32c4-1873-bac014cee965@isode.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3F74455D54EBF9957A828E7B" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:02:08 -0000 --------------3F74455D54EBF9957A828E7B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Hi Russ, > > On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: >> > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as=20 >> =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one bala= nced=20 >> PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. >> >> What was the point of the selection process if we are going to=20 >> publish the ones that were not selected too? > > It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is=20 > to publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection=20 > process and was not selected as one of the finalists. > To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that=20 weren't finalists. > > Best Regards, > > Alexey > >> >> Russ >> >> >> >>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev=20 >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Dear Crypto Panel experts, >>> >>> Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version=20 >>> (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection=20 >>> process)? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) >>> >>> ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 --------= - >>> =D0=9E=D1=82: *Watson Ladd* > >>> =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0= =B3. =D0=B2 23:29 >>> =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-= 12.txt >>> =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > >>> >>> >>> This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE >>> competition which was the only one I found. >>> >>> I think it's ready for RGLC. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM >> > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 >>> directories. >>> > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. >>> > >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0: Watson Ladd >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: 16 >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10 >>> > >>> > Abstract: >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for tw= o parties >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a strong shared key with = no risk of >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This method is compatible = with any group, >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security p= roof.=C2=A0=20 >>> This >>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was no= t=20 >>> selected. >>> > >>> > >>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ >>> > >>> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >>> > >>> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 >>> > >>> > >>> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 >>> submission >>> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 >>> tools.ietf.org . >>> > >>> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Cfrg mailing list >>> > Cfrg@irtf.org >>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >>> >>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". >>> --Rousseau. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cfrg mailing list >>> Cfrg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >> --------------3F74455D54EBF9957A828E7B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

Hi Russ,

On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote:
> We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE.=C2=A0

What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish the ones that were not selected too?

It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and was not selected as one of the finalists.

To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that weren't finalists.

Best Regards,

Alexey


Russ



On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Crypto Panel experts,<= /div>

Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)?

Regards,
Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)

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This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Watson Ladd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: 16
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>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which= is a protocol for two parties
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a st= rong shared key with no risk of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This = method is compatible with any group,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SP= AKE2 has a security proof.=C2=A0 This
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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>
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Smyshlyaev" Cc: Christopher Wood , Frederic Jacobs , Nick Sullivan , cfrg-chairs@ietf.org, crypto-panel@irtf.org, draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008e200f05acae5c31" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 13:42:44 -0000 --0000000000008e200f05acae5c31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Apologies for the late reply, been travelling and still on vacation on an island, didn=E2=80=99t pay much attention to non-urgent looking email and s= omewhat overlooked this. Thanks Chris for reminding me by message :) So I=E2=80=99m fine with the changes, looks like a clear and correct draft.= As commented there are specification choices that I would have done differently, but nothing worrisome security wise. Cheers, JP On Wed 5 Aug 2020 at 17:54, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev wrote: > Dear Jean-Philippe, > > Could you please confirm that you are happy with the changes made in draf= t-irtf-cfrg-hpke-05, > addressing your concerns?.. > > Regards, > Stanislav, Alexey, Nick > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:16, Jean-Philippe Aumasson < > jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wrote this review a few days ago after Chris and Fred contacted me: >> >> https://gist.github.com/veorq/76196fde31390a8696eac7e062c7b2ea >> >> Cheers,, >> >> JP >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan > 40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephen, >>> >>> This works for us. We look forward to your review. >>> >>> Nick (on behalf of the chairs) >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM Stephen Farrell < >>> stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be >>>> coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that >>>> to be considered disqualifying:-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> S. >>>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey >>>> >>>> On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote: >>>> > Dear Crypto Panel members, >>>> > >>>> > Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel member= s >>>> for a >>>> > review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The >>>> > document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key >>>> encryption. >>>> > It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM. >>>> > >>>> > This document went through last call and didn't receive many >>>> comments, so a >>>> > thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move >>>> this >>>> > document forward. >>>> > >>>> > Who would like to volunteer? >>>> > >>>> > Best regards, >>>> > Nick (on behalf of chairs) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Crypto-panel mailing list >>>> > Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>> >> --0000000000008e200f05acae5c31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

Apologies for the late reply, been travelling and still on vac= ation on an island, didn=E2=80=99t pay much attention to non-urgent looking= email and somewhat overlooked this. Thanks Chris for reminding me by messa= ge :)

So I=E2=80=99m fin= e with the changes, looks like a clear and correct draft. As commented ther= e are specification choices that I would have done differently, but nothing= worrisome security wise.

Cheers,

JP
<= br>
On Wed = 5 Aug 2020 at 17:54, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Jean-Philippe,

Could you = please confirm that you are happy with the changes made in=C2=A0draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-05, addressing your=C2=A0concerns?..

Regards,
Stanislav, Alexey, Nick

On W= ed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:16, Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.= com> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote this review a few days ago aft= er Chris and Fred contacted me:



=


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan &= lt;nick=3D40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

This works for us. We look forward to your review.

Nick (on behalf of the chairs)

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM= Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be
coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that
to be considered disqualifying:-)

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey

On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote:
> Dear Crypto Panel members,
>
> Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel members = for a
> review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irt= f-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The
> document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key encrypt= ion.
> It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM.
>
> This document went through last call and didn't receive many comme= nts, so a
> thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move th= is
> document forward.
>
> Who would like to volunteer?
>
> Best regards,
> Nick (on behalf of chairs)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Crypto-panel mailing list
> Crypto-pane= l@irtf.org
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Smyshlyaev" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 09:23:05 +0300 Message-ID: To: Jean-Philippe Aumasson Cc: Christopher Wood , Frederic Jacobs , Nick Sullivan , cfrg-chairs@ietf.org, crypto-panel@irtf.org, draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000056dca405acbc5687" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 06:23:11 -0000 --00000000000056dca405acbc5687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a lot, Jean-Philippe! Regards, Stanislav On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 16:42, Jean-Philippe Aumasson < jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Apologies for the late reply, been travelling and still on vacation on an > island, didn=E2=80=99t pay much attention to non-urgent looking email and= somewhat > overlooked this. Thanks Chris for reminding me by message :) > > So I=E2=80=99m fine with the changes, looks like a clear and correct draf= t. As > commented there are specification choices that I would have done > differently, but nothing worrisome security wise. > > Cheers, > > JP > > On Wed 5 Aug 2020 at 17:54, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev > wrote: > >> Dear Jean-Philippe, >> >> Could you please confirm that you are happy with the changes made in dra= ft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-05, >> addressing your concerns?.. >> >> Regards, >> Stanislav, Alexey, Nick >> >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:16, Jean-Philippe Aumasson < >> jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wrote this review a few days ago after Chris and Fred contacted me: >>> >>> https://gist.github.com/veorq/76196fde31390a8696eac7e062c7b2ea >>> >>> Cheers,, >>> >>> JP >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan >> 40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stephen, >>>> >>>> This works for us. We look forward to your review. >>>> >>>> Nick (on behalf of the chairs) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM Stephen Farrell < >>>> stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be >>>>> coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that >>>>> to be considered disqualifying:-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> S. >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey >>>>> >>>>> On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote: >>>>> > Dear Crypto Panel members, >>>>> > >>>>> > Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel >>>>> members for a >>>>> > review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The >>>>> > document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key >>>>> encryption. >>>>> > It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM. >>>>> > >>>>> > This document went through last call and didn't receive many >>>>> comments, so a >>>>> > thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move >>>>> this >>>>> > document forward. >>>>> > >>>>> > Who would like to volunteer? >>>>> > >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > Nick (on behalf of chairs) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Crypto-panel mailing list >>>>> > Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>>>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>>>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>>> >>> --00000000000056dca405acbc5687 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks a lot, Jean-Philippe!

Regards,
Stanislav

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 16:42, Jean-Philippe Aumasso= n <jeanphilippe.aumas= son@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Apologies for the late reply, been travelling and= still on vacation on an island, didn=E2=80=99t pay much attention to non-u= rgent looking email and somewhat overlooked this. Thanks Chris for remindin= g me by message :)

So I= =E2=80=99m fine with the changes, looks like a clear and correct draft. As = commented there are specification choices that I would have done differentl= y, but nothing worrisome security wise.

Cheers,

= JP

On Wed 5 Aug 2020 at 17:54, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:=
Dear Jean-Philippe,

Could you please confirm that you = are happy with the changes made in=C2=A0draft-irtf-cfrg-= hpke-05, addressing your=C2=A0concerns?..

R= egards,
Stanislav, Alexey, Nick

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 09:16= , Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I wrote this review a few days ago after Chris and Fred conta= cted me:


Cheers,,

JP


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:57 AM Nick Sullivan <nick=3D40cloudflare.com@dma= rc.ietf.org> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

This works for u= s. We look forward to your review.

Nick (on behalf= of the chairs)

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 2:57 PM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell= @cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

I've implemented an earlier version [1] and will be
coding up the final one. Happy to do it, or for that
to be considered disqualifying:-)

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://github.com/sftcd/happykey

On 08/06/2020 22:53, Nick Sullivan wrote:
> Dear Crypto Panel members,
>
> Alexey, Stanislav and I would like to ask Crypto Review Panel members = for a
> review of https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irt= f-cfrg-hpke-04.html. The
> document specifies a set of mechanisms to do hybrid public key encrypt= ion.
> It can be thought of as a generalization of ECIES for any KEM.
>
> This document went through last call and didn't receive many comme= nts, so a
> thorough review from a crypto panel member would be helpful to move th= is
> document forward.
>
> Who would like to volunteer?
>
> Best regards,
> Nick (on behalf of chairs)
>
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Smyshlyaev" Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:40:13 +0300 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" Cc: "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" , Alexey Melnikov Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000308fee05ad0ebc88" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 08:41:26 -0000 --000000000000308fee05ad0ebc88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Russ, dear Crypto Panel experts, Any volunteers for a quick review of the updated version of the SPAKE2 draft (before commencing a RGLC)? Regards, Stanislav On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:02, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > Hi Russ, > On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: > > > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecomm= ended > by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - CPace,= and > one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. > > What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish th= e > ones that were not selected too? > > It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to > publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and > was not selected as one of the finalists. > > To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that > weren't finalists. > > Best Regards, > > Alexey > > > Russ > > > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev > wrote: > > Dear Crypto Panel experts, > > Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking int= o > account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? > > Regards, > Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) > > ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 -------= -- > =D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd > =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0= =B3. =D0=B2 23:29 > =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-1= 2.txt > =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > > > This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE > competition which was the only one I found. > > I think it's ready for RGLC. > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. > > > > Title : SPAKE2, a PAKE > > Authors : Watson Ladd > > Benjamin Kaduk > > Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > > Pages : 16 > > Date : 2020-08-10 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two parties > > that share a password to derive a strong shared key with no risk of > > disclosing the password. This method is compatible with any group, > > is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security proof. This > > document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cfrg mailing list > > Cfrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > > -- > "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". > --Rousseau. > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > > > --000000000000308fee05ad0ebc88 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Russ, dear Crypto Panel experts,

A= ny volunteers for a quick review of the updated version of the SPAKE2 draft= (before commencing a RGLC)?

Regards,
St= anislav

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:02, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

=20

Hi Russ,

On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote:
=20 > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: on= e balanced PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE.=C2=A0

What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish the ones that were not selected too?

It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and was not selected as one of the finalists.

To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that weren't finalists.

Best Regards,

Alexey


Russ



On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Crypto Panel experts,

Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)?

Regards,
Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)

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=D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>= ;
=D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0= =D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 23:29
=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: <cfrg@ietf.org>


This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org&g= t; wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Watson Ladd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: 16
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 whic= h is a protocol for two parties
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a s= trong shared key with no risk of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This= method is compatible with any group,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and S= PAKE2 has a security proof.=C2=A0 This
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatrack= er.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.o= rg/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
> https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.= ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cfrg mailing list
> Cfrg@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/li= stinfo/cfrg



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<159709115024.10897.5395496576031260366@ietfa.amsl.com> <5f6565e7-49cb-32c4-1873-bac014cee965@isode.com> <80792d11-5400-1c79-ac60-d28d2ae803f0@isode.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:52:12 +0300 Message-ID: To: "Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)" Cc: Russ Housley , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" , Alexey Melnikov , "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c7359205ad116a0c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 11:53:25 -0000 --000000000000c7359205ad116a0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great, thank you, Scott! On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 14:49, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > I=E2=80=99ll take a quick look at it. > > > > *From:* Crypto-panel * On Behalf Of *Stan= islav > V. Smyshlyaev > *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2020 4:40 AM > *To:* Russ Housley ; crypto-panel@irtf.org > *Cc:* Alexey Melnikov ; cfrg-chairs@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: > draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > > > > Dear Russ, dear Crypto Panel experts, > > > > Any volunteers for a quick review of the updated version of the SPAKE2 > draft (before commencing a RGLC)? > > > > Regards, > > Stanislav > > > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:02, Alexey Melnikov > wrote: > > On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: > > > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecomm= ended > by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - CPace,= and > one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. > > > > What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish th= e > ones that were not selected too? > > It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to > publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and > was not selected as one of the finalists. > > To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that > weren't finalists. > > Best Regards, > > Alexey > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev > wrote: > > > > Dear Crypto Panel experts, > > > > Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking int= o > account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? > > > > Regards, > > Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) > > > > ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 -------= -- > =D0=9E=D1=82: *Watson Ladd* > =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0= =B3. =D0=B2 23:29 > =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-1= 2.txt > =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > > > > This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE > competition which was the only one I found. > > I think it's ready for RGLC. > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. > > > > Title : SPAKE2, a PAKE > > Authors : Watson Ladd > > Benjamin Kaduk > > Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > > Pages : 16 > > Date : 2020-08-10 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two parties > > that share a password to derive a strong shared key with no risk of > > disclosing the password. This method is compatible with any group, > > is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security proof. This > > document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cfrg mailing list > > Cfrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > > -- > "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". > --Rousseau. > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > > > > --000000000000c7359205ad116a0c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great, thank you, Scott!=C2=A0

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 1= 4:49, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <sf= luhrer@cisco.com> wrote:

I=E2=80=99ll take a quick look at it.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Dear Russ, dear Crypto Panel experts,<= /p>

=C2=A0

Any volunteers for a quick review of the updated ver= sion of the SPAKE2 draft (before commencing a RGLC)?

=C2=A0

Regards,

Stanislav

=C2=A0

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:02, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melniko= v@isode.com> wrote:

On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

Hi Russ,

On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote:

> We recommend the following two protocols to be = selected as =C2=ABrecommended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB= : one balanced PAKE - CPace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

What was the point of the selection process if we ar= e going to publish the ones that were not selected too?

It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to = publish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and wa= s not selected as one of the finalists.

To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other= PAKE candidates that weren't finalists.

Best Regards,

Alexey

=C2=A0

Russ

=C2=A0

=C2=A0



On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyae= v <smyshsv@gmail.= com> wrote:

=C2=A0

Dear Crypto Panel experts,

=C2=A0

Could someone please take a quick look at the update= d version (taking into account the reviews made during the PAKE selection p= rocess)?

=C2=A0

Regards,

Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs)

=C2=A0

---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0= =BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 ---------
=D0=9E=D1=82: Watson= Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
=D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0=B3.= =D0=B2 23:29
=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.= txt
=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: <cfrg@ietf.org>



This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE
competition which was the only one I found.

I think it's ready for RGLC.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: SPAKE2, a PAKE
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0: Watson Ladd
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Benjamin Kaduk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: 16
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 : 2020-08-10
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for tw= o parties
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that share a password to derive a strong shared key with = no risk of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 disclosing the password.=C2=A0 This method is compatible = with any group,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security p= roof.=C2=A0 This
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was no= t selected.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp:= //ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cfrg mailing list
> Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg



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Smyshlyaev" , Russ Housley , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" , "" , "cfrg-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:42:23 -0000 On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 3:20 PM Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > > I looked through it (the Crypto20 crypto conference was last week, that k= ept me busy); it looked good, with two nits: Thank you very much for reviewing it so quickly! > > > > Section 3.1 states =E2=80=9CLets G be a group in which the computational = Diffie-Hellman (CDH) problem is hard=E2=80=9D. Actually, if you go through= the security proof, it appears that the slightly stronger =E2=80=9CS-PCCDH= assumption=E2=80=9D is required. While it is plausible that, for any grou= p where the CDH assumption holds, so does the S-PCCDH assumption, however, = this is not proven. So recently https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/1194.pdf reduces to Gap Diffie-Hellman. I think I should revise that sentence of 3.1 and discuss in security considerations section exactly what is assumed and that elliptic curves in the draft are widely conjectured to satisfy it. Hopefully this won't confuse anyone more than necessary. > This draft still relies on a fixed (per group) M and N values; as we have= argued before, having a global N and M value menas that breaking one discr= ete problem would mean breaking the entire system globally, and so that arg= uably too attractive as a target. Assuming that the authors aren=E2=80=99t= willing to use a Hash2Curve method to generate N, M values, I would recomm= end that a paragraph be added to the document outlining the situation (and = perferably giving a procedure where individual protocols can select their o= wn N, M values) Section 5: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-11.html#rfc.sec= tion.5 has M and N per user, following one of the papers in the references. I think a per-protocol option makes sense to add, but it would be nice to know if it would be used. > > > > From: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 7:50 AM > To: Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev ; Russ Housley ; crypto-panel@irtf.org > Cc: Alexey Melnikov ; cfrg-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake= 2-12.txt > > > > I=E2=80=99ll take a quick look at it. > > > > From: Crypto-panel On Behalf Of Stanislav= V. Smyshlyaev > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:40 AM > To: Russ Housley ; crypto-panel@irtf.org > Cc: Alexey Melnikov ; cfrg-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake= 2-12.txt > > > > Dear Russ, dear Crypto Panel experts, > > > > Any volunteers for a quick review of the updated version of the SPAKE2 dr= aft (before commencing a RGLC)? > > > > Regards, > > Stanislav > > > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 20:02, Alexey Melnikov = wrote: > > On 11/08/2020 17:47, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > On 11/08/2020 17:43, Russ Housley wrote: > > > We recommend the following two protocols to be selected as =C2=ABrecomm= ended by the CFRG for usage in IETF protocols=C2=BB: one balanced PAKE - CP= ace, and one augmented PAKE - OPAQUE. > > > > What was the point of the selection process if we are going to publish th= e ones that were not selected too? > > It is needed by Kitten WG for one of Kerberos documents. The idea is to p= ublish it with a disclaimer that it predated PAKE selection process and was= not selected as one of the finalists. > > To clarify: we don't intend to publish any other PAKE candidates that wer= en't finalists. > > Best Regards, > > Alexey > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev = wrote: > > > > Dear Crypto Panel experts, > > > > Could someone please take a quick look at the updated version (taking int= o account the reviews made during the PAKE selection process)? > > > > Regards, > > Stanislav (on behalf of CFRG chairs) > > > > ---------- =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC= =D0=BE=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 -------= -- > =D0=9E=D1=82: Watson Ladd > =D0=94=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0: =D0=BF=D0=BD, 10 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3. 2020 =D0= =B3. =D0=B2 23:29 > =D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B0: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-1= 2.txt > =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BC=D1=83: > > > > This fixes the comment on missing identities received during the PAKE > competition which was the only one I found. > > I think it's ready for RGLC. > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dire= ctories. > > This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. > > > > Title : SPAKE2, a PAKE > > Authors : Watson Ladd > > Benjamin Kaduk > > Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12.txt > > Pages : 16 > > Date : 2020-08-10 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes SPAKE2 which is a protocol for two parties > > that share a password to derive a strong shared key with no risk of > > disclosing the password. This method is compatible with any group, > > is computationally efficient, and SPAKE2 has a security proof. This > > document predated the CFRG PAKE competition and it was not selected. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-12 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi= ssion > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cfrg mailing list > > Cfrg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > > > -- > "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". > --Rousseau. > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg -- "Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains". --Rousseau. 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