From nobody Mon Apr 17 01:32:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7681294C3 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 01:32:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.319 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.319 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fastmail.fm header.b=w09VaEXu; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=fKJZMy3h Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvnvmiPWc5fB for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 01:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F3F11270A0 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 01:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AEC20A17; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:32:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Sa2MbVtaklYfoO55so B94VKf4BXDgTPST7RY2GJVOAo=; b=w09VaEXui7B5SQ4MV8V3ky6Lp9gvASH9Qm I27lK2C0Sz9zHPI9LlEFUfO2z/eJbNZF67bzr+Se4ZinRA/+zcaZTkO2uOCHXe8n eNaFqR1P9VSy87XedoAe+vYUPEyb8RQdkdbk1yInTSk5ogP51Hx55GZccoj/OI90 IsYiGhzDTH6dJjJfDJcslk/6qsXo0c2fcP6ZejKZK6cK84LRRJIu4lDe8v4nhURm ydWySYc4plExk5wTHMU2EbN6kWfyNkFUuGIJxA1OD/kSx+smPAeqPyGVwmnbT6Z1 Agp1tJ4pYzoWv/+gEUFSdReuWpCyck0kcNld+J8TUssdIJyOqkgQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= fm1; bh=Sa2MbVtaklYfoO55soB94VKf4BXDgTPST7RY2GJVOAo=; b=fKJZMy3h ZQd99e5Mv1cSldKOCcI4DnkT2iS5XK8+YbBc9Z5waqUeX3dSxyJkGAPtu/5SqV3l qmFdaTM2gLmcE7DeG8fQ+VfqOMBNdaUJk+j2n0ZZL9OCZN5RKR6MYo77xdWCNHlE MCqCFAYHMrA+Xa9KjWTUoZw3ULL4ChlNhj/lPiPN22nfHo3K5JmEcG8+DZeRzTqM 6tIiQHqoR780jZbrAGuq2mekSUZJANRYVTCi9ZyD3FkKFeDi2utOnJRFYr088exW fUqL5MmlH+34uCg+GKNm4+pkSTLNbFVAGzsj+ijnO35GrCsvY2N07MFbrQ2Mtp99 5nRinLddCYUz8w== X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: 4p2THLlWiQ8UB8H9OIviKlaQAf5bCu62RlSRJhEHXe2p 1492417953 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (cpc121086-nmal24-2-0-cust54.19-2.cable.virginm.net [77.97.145.55]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8994924457; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 04:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13G35) In-Reply-To: <80379C3D-BCD5-4B66-A8A0-FD08730EF1C9@qti.qualcomm.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:47:38 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <416DF903-54CD-4737-9EEC-FD2651E382BF@fastmail.fm> References: <20161115125915.GB51667@mx2.yitter.info> <1484152396.3924999.844484848.7AB39DB7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <80379C3D-BCD5-4B66-A8A0-FD08730EF1C9@qti.qualcomm.com> To: dbound@ietf.org Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dbound] On a path to closing X-BeenThere: dbound@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS tree bounds List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 08:32:37 -0000 Hi, > On 31 Mar 2017, at 15:53, Pete Resnick wrote: >=20 >> On 11 Jan 2017, at 10:33, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >>=20 >> I've discussed how to move forward with the WG chairs. They will post a >> detailed proposal. Stay tuned. >=20 > Your chairs met with our AD this week. We (the chairs) see no significant c= onvergence of the (very small number of) active folks indicating they are in= terested in working on any particular proposals, and we don't see any outsid= e support for this work beyond, "Yes, if you do one of these things, we'd be= interested". Without that convergence or support, we do not see anything us= eful about keeping the WG open and have recommended to our AD that we shut d= own without completing our work items. As for the documents that have been s= ubmitted for working group consideration, the chairs will not be advocating f= or publication of any of them via the working group. The authors are free t= o petition the ADs to sponsor them, or are free to consider other publicatio= n avenues such as the Independent Stream. Obviously if folks want to make th= e argument to the AD that they have a way to productively re-charter, I'm su= re he'd be happy to hear that, but we don't see the current charter completi= ng. I intend to close the WG later this week. I don't intend to AD sponsor any i= ndividual draft from DBOUND. The mailing list will remain open and if there is renewed energy to converge= on a specific proposal, I can entertain the idea of restarting the WG. Best Regards, Alexey, as AD. From nobody Mon Apr 24 09:47:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dbound@ietf.org Delivered-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81839131838; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:47:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF Announcement List" Cc: superuser@gmail.com, presnick@qti.qualcomm.com, dbound@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.50.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: <149305245852.25812.3530580697840204197.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:47:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dbound] WG Action: Conclusion of Domain Boundaries (dbound) X-BeenThere: dbound@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: DNS tree bounds List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:47:38 -0000 The Domain Boundaries (dbound) working group in the Applications and Real-Time Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Ben Campbell, Alexey Melnikov, and Adam Roach. DBOUND WG failed to reach consensus on any specific proposal(s) to express domain relationships in DNS. The WG is thus being closed. The mailing list will remain open just in case there is renewed energy in converging on a specific proposal.