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([2601:647:4200:e520:350c:8114:e662:c0f5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u198sm15283702pgb.63.2017.04.16.23.00.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Apr 2017 23:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: jouni korhonen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 23:00:38 -0700 Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com, lionel.morand@orange.com, draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org To: "dime@ietf.org list" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 06:00:48 -0000 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. = The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker = (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the = list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel From nobody Tue Apr 18 05:32:43 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E24D12EB53; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 05:32:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58hsyxl1urqz; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 05:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sandvine.com (Mail1.sandvine.com [64.7.137.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27186124BFA; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 05:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLR-EXCHP-2.sandvine.com (192.168.196.172) by wtl-exchp-1.sandvine.com (192.168.194.176) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:32:38 -0400 Received: from WTL-EXCHP-1.sandvine.com ([fe80::ac6b:cc1e:f2ff:93aa]) by blr-exchp-2.sandvine.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:32:38 -0400 From: Yuval Lifshitz To: jouni korhonen , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "lionel.morand@orange.com" , "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" , Yuval Lifshitz Thread-Topic: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/2mO+b549DKUmFgYz1o02VoKHLDOTw Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:32:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.142.11] x-c2processedorg: b2f06e69-072f-40ee-90c5-80a34e700794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:32:41 -0000 (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further work = is needed. As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to 3GPP SA5= work group to get their feedback. As their charging related specifications= (e.g. 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. Yuval -----Original Message----- From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM To: dime@ietf.org list Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; draft-ietf-dime-rfc40= 06bis@ietf.org Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. 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dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further work = is needed. As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to 3GPP SA5= work group to get their feedback. As their charging related specifications= (e.g. 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. Yuval -----Original Message----- From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM To: dime@ietf.org list Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; draft-ietf-dime-rfc40= 06bis@ietf.org Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime From nobody Wed Apr 26 00:48:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15669131C4C; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:48:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E3Sl8dVmkeiD; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sandvine.com (Mail1.sandvine.com [64.7.137.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB664131C50; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WTL-EXCHP-1.sandvine.com ([fe80::ac6b:cc1e:f2ff:93aa]) by wtl-exchp-2.sandvine.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 03:48:21 -0400 From: Yuval Lifshitz To: "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" , "jouni korhonen" , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" , Yuval Lifshitz Thread-Topic: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/2mO+b549DKUmFgYz1o02VoKHLDOTwgAscvoCAASnzcA== Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:48:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.142.12] x-c2processedorg: b2f06e69-072f-40ee-90c5-80a34e700794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:48:26 -0000 I can try and draft the LS, and send it for review to this group, but not s= ure what would be the formal process for sending it to SA5? Yuval -----Original Message----- From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:59 PM To: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Dear Yuval and all,=20 Sounds a good idea to have an LS to 3GPP SA5 for their coming May meeting.= =20 Even though it would be too late to get feedback on this version (consideri= ng the 4/30/17 deadline), it would be valuable for them to be aware about t= he ongoing RFC4006 evolution.=20 BR Maryse=20 -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yuval Lifshitz Sent: mardi 18 avril 2017 14:33 To: jouni korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further work = is needed. As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to 3GPP SA5= work group to get their feedback. As their charging related specifications= (e.g. 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. Yuval -----Original Message----- From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM To: dime@ietf.org list Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; draft-ietf-dime-rfc40= 06bis@ietf.org Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. 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Regarding the process I do not have the answer, may be Lionel could help? = To me, he is the official contact for interaction with 3GPP on Diameter,=20 BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com]=20 Sent: mercredi 26 avril 2017 09:48 To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) ; jouni = korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 I can try and draft the LS, and send it for review to this group, but not s= ure what would be the formal process for sending it to SA5? Yuval -----Original Message----- From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:59 PM To: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Dear Yuval and all,=20 Sounds a good idea to have an LS to 3GPP SA5 for their coming May meeting.= =20 Even though it would be too late to get feedback on this version (consideri= ng the 4/30/17 deadline), it would be valuable for them to be aware about t= he ongoing RFC4006 evolution.=20 BR Maryse=20 -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yuval Lifshitz Sent: mardi 18 avril 2017 14:33 To: jouni korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further work = is needed. As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to 3GPP SA5= work group to get their feedback. As their charging related specifications= (e.g. 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. Yuval -----Original Message----- From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM To: dime@ietf.org list Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; draft-ietf-dime-rfc40= 06bis@ietf.org Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime From nobody Wed Apr 26 02:53:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4312956B; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 02:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eAywPKnxCJI0; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 02:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (mta240.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 627D312950E; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 02:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfedar02.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by opfedar21.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 1AF6410052F; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:52:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.58]) by opfedar02.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id EF0A6180073; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:52:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from OPEXCLILM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::ec23:902:c31f:731c]) by OPEXCLILM33.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::3881:fc15:b4b2:9017%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:52:55 +0200 From: To: "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" , "Yuval Lifshitz" , jouni korhonen , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/0xtfIAFLmj026SxMSVKtHV6HK77KAgArVW4CAAW3eAIAAAOiAgABBkNA= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:52:55 +0000 Message-ID: <706_1493200376_59006DF8_706_2499_1_6B7134B31289DC4FAF731D844122B36E0C0C5590@OPEXCLILM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 09:53:00 -0000 Hi, I don't think that the LS process is efficient enough for a WGLC, especiall= y as multiple 3GPP groups are interested and meetings are hold after the cu= rrent deadline. The easiest way is to announce the WGLC on CT3/CT4 and SA5 mailing lists an= d let interested people react on the draft and send their comments on the d= ime mailing list. I had an issue with my mail last week and I was not able to post on 3GPP ma= iling list. I will do it today. I will also indicate that the WGLC period is de facto extended to let two w= eeks to 3GPP guys for reviews/comments. Regards, Lionel > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Gardella, Maryse > (Nokia - FR/Nozay) > Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 26 avril 2017 09:52 > =C0=A0: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list > Cc=A0: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org > Objet=A0: Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >=20 > Hi Yuval > Thanks to volunteer for this! > Regarding the process I do not have the answer, may be Lionel could help= ? To > me, he is the official contact for interaction with 3GPP on Diameter, >=20 > BR > Maryse >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com] > Sent: mercredi 26 avril 2017 09:48 > To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) ; jouni > korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz > Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >=20 > I can try and draft the LS, and send it for review to this group, but not= sure what > would be the formal process for sending it to SA5? >=20 > Yuval >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) > [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:59 PM > To: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org > Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >=20 > Dear Yuval and all, >=20 > Sounds a good idea to have an LS to 3GPP SA5 for their coming May meeting. > Even though it would be too late to get feedback on this version (conside= ring the > 4/30/17 deadline), it would be valuable for them to be aware about the on= going > RFC4006 evolution. >=20 > BR > Maryse >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yuval Lifshitz > Sent: mardi 18 avril 2017 14:33 > To: jouni korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list > > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org > Subject: [ALU] Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >=20 > (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further wor= k is > needed. >=20 > As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to 3GPP S= A5 > work group to get their feedback. As their charging related specification= s (e.g. > 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. >=20 > Yuval >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM > To: dime@ietf.org list > Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; draft-ietf-dime- > rfc4006bis@ietf.org > Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >=20 > Folks, >=20 > This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The= WGLC > ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. > Submit your comments to issue tracker > (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket) and to mailing list. If you t= hink the > document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, One comment on the reference for the NAI format: In the existing: 8.47. Subscription-Id-Type AVP END_USER_NAI 3 The identifier is in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. And the newly created : 8.62. Subscription-Id-NAI AVP The Subscription-Id-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String. The Subscription-Id-NAI AVP contains the identifier in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. The reference is RFC 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 67= 33 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282. BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01 To: dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime --_000_HE1PR0701MB2857B67205A4B3CD908191FCFC100HE1PR0701MB2857_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

 

One comment on the = reference for the NAI format:

 

In the existing:

 

8.47<= /a>.  Subscription-Id-Type AVP

 

END_USER_NAI 3

 

   The identifier is in the form of a N= etwork Access Identifier, as

   defined in [RFC2486].

 

And the newly creat= ed :

 

8.62<= /a>.  Subscription-Id-NAI AVP

 

 

   The Subscription-I= d-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String.  The

   Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP contains the identifier in the form of a

   Network Access Ide= ntifier, as defined in [RFC2486].

 

The reference is RF= C 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Als= o RFC 6733 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 42= 82.

 

BR

Maryse

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen
Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01
To: dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

 

Folks,

 

This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf= -dime-rfc4006bis-02. The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time.

Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket= ) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. Silenc= e does not count as acceptance.

 

- Jouni & Lionel

 

 

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--_000_HE1PR0701MB2857B67205A4B3CD908191FCFC100HE1PR0701MB2857_-- From nobody Thu Apr 27 07:07:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD10129529; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2iE2bC9znFd; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sandvine.com (mail1.sandvine.com [64.7.137.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29C181294E9; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLR-EXCHP-2.sandvine.com (192.168.196.172) by WTL-EXCHP-3.sandvine.com (192.168.196.177) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:07:45 -0400 Received: from WTL-EXCHP-1.sandvine.com ([fe80::ac6b:cc1e:f2ff:93aa]) by blr-exchp-2.sandvine.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:07:44 -0400 From: Yuval Lifshitz To: "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" , "jouni korhonen" , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" , Yuval Lifshitz Thread-Topic: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/2mO+b549DKUmFgYz1o02VoKHZRtuAgAAHFPA= Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:07:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-CA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.196.10] x-c2processedorg: b2f06e69-072f-40ee-90c5-80a34e700794 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007F6E1wtlexchp1sandvi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:07:48 -0000 --_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007F6E1wtlexchp1sandvi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maryse and All, Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted = (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in = Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they modified their predecessors in = non-backward-compatible manner. We should probably make the change only in the new AVP, so there is no comp= atibility issue with existing RFC4006 elements? Yuval From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Hello all, One comment on the reference for the NAI format: In the existing: 8.47. Subscription-Id-Type AVP END_USER_NAI 3 The identifier is in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. And the newly created : 8.62. Subscription-Id-NAI AVP The Subscription-Id-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String. The Subscription-Id-NAI AVP contains the identifier in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. The reference is RFC 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 67= 33 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282. BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01 To: dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime --_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007F6E1wtlexchp1sandvi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maryse and All,

Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they mo= dified their predecessors in non-backward-compatible manner.

We should probably mak= e the change only in the new AVP, so there is no compatibility issue with e= xisting RFC4006 elements?

 

Yuval

 

From: Gardella= , Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Hello all,

 

One comment on the = reference for the NAI format:

 

In the existing:

 

8.47<= a name=3D"section-8.47">.  Subscription-Id-Ty= pe AVP

 

END_USER_NAI 3

 

   The identifier is in the form of a N= etwork Access Identifier, as

   defined in [RFC2486].

 

And the newly creat= ed :

 

8.62<= a name=3D"section-8.62">.  Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP

 

 

   The Subscription-I= d-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String.  The

   Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP contains the identifier in the form of a

   Network Access Ide= ntifier, as defined in [RFC2486].

 

The reference is RF= C 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Als= o RFC 6733 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 42= 82.

 

BR

Maryse

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen
Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01
To: dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-= rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /p>

 

Folks,

 

This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf= -dime-rfc4006bis-02. The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time.

Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket= ) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. Silenc= e does not count as acceptance.

 

- Jouni & Lionel

 

 

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--_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007F6E1wtlexchp1sandvi_-- From nobody Thu Apr 27 11:13:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A535129B5E; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:13:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.89 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.89 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4udsQibfkixL; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sandvine.com (mail1.sandvine.com [64.7.137.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10ABD129BFF; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLR-EXCHP-2.sandvine.com (192.168.196.172) by WTL-EXCHP-3.sandvine.com (192.168.196.177) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:10:29 -0400 Received: from WTL-EXCHP-1.sandvine.com ([fe80::ac6b:cc1e:f2ff:93aa]) by blr-exchp-2.sandvine.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:10:28 -0400 From: Dave Dolson To: Yuval Lifshitz , "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" , jouni korhonen , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" , Yuval Lifshitz Thread-Topic: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/24gA9nYAO5kyNlVyqvmNlc6HZRtuAgABM+YD///q4YA== Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:10:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.200.114] x-c2processedorg: b2f06e69-072f-40ee-90c5-80a34e700794 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E8355113905631478EFF04F5AA706E98705BA165wtlexchp1sandvi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:13:51 -0000 --_000_E8355113905631478EFF04F5AA706E98705BA165wtlexchp1sandvi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Without digging too deeply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7= 542 is backwards compatible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit= ASCII. The gray area seems to be the binary encoding. Any RFC2486 string may incl= ude a binary value from %x00-7F, as I read it. So, we could say senders SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accep= t RFC7542-invalid strings for backwards compatibility. As I see it, operators require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already usin= g them, so we should update the END_USER_NAI. -Dave From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Maryse and All, Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted = (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in = Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they modified their predecessors in = non-backward-compatible manner. We should probably make the change only in the new AVP, so there is no comp= atibility issue with existing RFC4006 elements? Yuval From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Hello all, One comment on the reference for the NAI format: In the existing: 8.47. Subscription-Id-Type AVP END_USER_NAI 3 The identifier is in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. And the newly created : 8.62. Subscription-Id-NAI AVP The Subscription-Id-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String. The Subscription-Id-NAI AVP contains the identifier in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. The reference is RFC 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 67= 33 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282. BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01 To: dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime --_000_E8355113905631478EFF04F5AA706E98705BA165wtlexchp1sandvi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Without digging too de= eply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7542 is backwards compa= tible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit ASCII.

 

The gray area seems to= be the binary encoding.  Any RFC2486 string may include a binary valu= e from %x00-7F, as I read it.

 

So, we could say sende= rs SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accept RFC7542-invalid stri= ngs for backwards compatibility.

 

As I see it, operators= require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already using them, so we should u= pdate the END_USER_NAI.

 

 

 

-Dave

 

 

From: Yuval Li= fshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM
To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.o= rg list
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Maryse and All,

Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they mo= dified their predecessors in non-backward-compatible manner.

We should probably mak= e the change only in the new AVP, so there is no compatibility issue with e= xisting RFC4006 elements?

 

Yuval

 

From: Gardella= , Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [m= ailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-iet= f-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Hello all,

 

One comment on the = reference for the NAI format:

 

In the existing:

 

8.47<= a name=3D"section-8.47">.  Subscription-Id-Ty= pe AVP

 

END_USER_NAI 3

 

   The identifier is in the form of a N= etwork Access Identifier, as

   defined in [RFC2486].

 

And the newly creat= ed :

 

8.62<= a name=3D"section-8.62">.  Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP

 

 

   The Subscription-I= d-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String.  The

   Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP contains the identifier in the form of a

   Network Access Ide= ntifier, as defined in [RFC2486].

 

The reference is RF= C 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Als= o RFC 6733 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 42= 82.

 

BR

Maryse

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen
Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01
To: dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-= rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /p>

 

Folks,

 

This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf= -dime-rfc4006bis-02. The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time.

Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket= ) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. Silenc= e does not count as acceptance.

 

- Jouni & Lionel

 

 

_______________________________________________

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This is/was the approach we agreed on in last IETF.. as stated in = the meeting minutes (that are still not online *cough* .. will fix that = eventually). - Jouni > On Apr 26, 2017, at 2:52 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I don't think that the LS process is efficient enough for a WGLC, = especially as multiple 3GPP groups are interested and meetings are hold = after the current deadline. > The easiest way is to announce the WGLC on CT3/CT4 and SA5 mailing = lists and let interested people react on the draft and send their = comments on the dime mailing list. > I had an issue with my mail last week and I was not able to post on = 3GPP mailing list. I will do it today. >=20 > I will also indicate that the WGLC period is de facto extended to let = two weeks to 3GPP guys for reviews/comments. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Lionel >=20 >=20 >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Gardella, = Maryse >> (Nokia - FR/Nozay) >> Envoy=C3=A9 : mercredi 26 avril 2017 09:52 >> =C3=80 : Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list >> Cc : draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org >> Objet : Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >>=20 >> Hi Yuval >> Thanks to volunteer for this! >> Regarding the process I do not have the answer, may be Lionel could = help? To >> me, he is the official contact for interaction with 3GPP on Diameter, >>=20 >> BR >> Maryse >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com] >> Sent: mercredi 26 avril 2017 09:48 >> To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) ; = jouni >> korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list >> Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz = >> Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >>=20 >> I can try and draft the LS, and send it for review to this group, but = not sure what >> would be the formal process for sending it to SA5? >>=20 >> Yuval >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) >> [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:59 PM >> To: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list >> Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org >> Subject: RE: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >>=20 >> Dear Yuval and all, >>=20 >> Sounds a good idea to have an LS to 3GPP SA5 for their coming May = meeting. >> Even though it would be too late to get feedback on this version = (considering the >> 4/30/17 deadline), it would be valuable for them to be aware about = the ongoing >> RFC4006 evolution. >>=20 >> BR >> Maryse >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yuval Lifshitz >> Sent: mardi 18 avril 2017 14:33 >> To: jouni korhonen ; dime@ietf.org list >> >> Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org >> Subject: [ALU] Re: [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >>=20 >> (as one of the editors) I think the document is ready, and no further = work is >> needed. >>=20 >> As part of the review process, would also suggest sending an LS to = 3GPP SA5 >> work group to get their feedback. As their charging related = specifications (e.g. >> 3GP TS 32.299) are heavily based on RFC4006. >>=20 >> Yuval >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jouni korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:01 AM >> To: dime@ietf.org list >> Cc: jouni.nospam@gmail.com; lionel.morand@orange.com; = draft-ietf-dime- >> rfc4006bis@ietf.org >> Subject: WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 >>=20 >> Folks, >>=20 >> This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. = The WGLC >> ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. >> Submit your comments to issue tracker >> (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket) and to mailing list. 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Note that this implies character codes 128 - 255 may be used in the username portion, which may be unacceptable to nodes that only support RFC 2486. Many devices already allow this behaviour, however. o Username privacy support has been added. Note that NAIs without a username (for privacy) may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant nodes. Many devices already allow this behaviour, however. o A recommendation to support NAI length of at least 253 octets has been added, and compatibility considerations among NAI lengths in this specification and various AAA protocols are discussed. Note that long NAIs may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant nodes. And from appendix A of RFC7542 (as you noted): * The formal syntax in Section 2.1 has been updated to forbid non-UTF-8 characters (e.g., characters with the "high bit" set). This means that there is incompatibility in both directions between RFC2486= and RFC7542. Therefore, if we want to preserver compatibility between RFC4006 and RFC400= 6bis, would suggest to use the new format only in the newly added AVP. From: Dave Dolson Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:10 PM To: Yuval Lifshitz; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; di= me@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Without digging too deeply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7= 542 is backwards compatible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit= ASCII. The gray area seems to be the binary encoding. Any RFC2486 string may incl= ude a binary value from %x00-7F, as I read it. So, we could say senders SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accep= t RFC7542-invalid strings for backwards compatibility. As I see it, operators require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already usin= g them, so we should update the END_USER_NAI. -Dave From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Maryse and All, Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted = (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in = Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they modified their predecessors in = non-backward-compatible manner. We should probably make the change only in the new AVP, so there is no comp= atibility issue with existing RFC4006 elements? Yuval From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Hello all, One comment on the reference for the NAI format: In the existing: 8.47. Subscription-Id-Type AVP END_USER_NAI 3 The identifier is in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. And the newly created : 8.62. Subscription-Id-NAI AVP The Subscription-Id-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String. The Subscription-Id-NAI AVP contains the identifier in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. The reference is RFC 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 67= 33 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282. BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01 To: dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime --_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007FABDwtlexchp1sandvi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Following 3 issues are= noted in appendix A of RFC4282:

 

   o  International character s= et support has been added for both

      usernames and r= ealms.  Note that this implies character codes 128

      - 255 may be us= ed in the username portion, which may be

 &= nbsp;    unacceptable to nodes that only support RFC 2486.&= nbsp; Many devices

      already allow t= his behaviour, however.

 

   o  Username privacy support = has been added.  Note that NAIs without a

      username (for p= rivacy) may not be acceptabl= e to RFC 2486-compliant

 &= nbsp;    nodes.  Many devices already allo= w this behaviour, however.

 

   o  A recommendation to suppo= rt NAI length of at least 253 octets has

      been added, and= compatibility considerations among NAI lengths in

      this specificat= ion and various AAA protocols are discussed.  Note

      that long NAIs may not be= acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant node= s.

 

And from appendix A of= RFC7542 (as you noted):

 

*  The formal syntax in Section 2.1 has been upd=
ated to forbid<=
/o:p>
&nb=
sp;     non-UTF-8 characters (e.g., characters with the "high bit" set).

 

This means that there = is incompatibility in both directions between RFC2486 and RFC7542.

Therefore, if we want = to preserver compatibility between RFC4006 and RFC4006bis, would suggest to= use the new format only in the newly added AVP.

 

 

From: Dave Dol= son
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:10 PM
To: Yuval Lifshitz; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korho= nen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Without digging too de= eply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7542 is backwards compa= tible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit ASCII.

 

The gray area seems to= be the binary encoding.  Any RFC2486 string may include a binary valu= e from %x00-7F, as I read it.

 

So, we could say sende= rs SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accept RFC7542-invalid stri= ngs for backwards compatibility.

 

As I see it, operators= require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already using them, so we should u= pdate the END_USER_NAI.

 

 

 

-Dave

 

 

 

From: Yuval Li= fshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine= .com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM
To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-iet= f-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Maryse and All,

Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they mo= dified their predecessors in non-backward-compatible manner.

We should probably mak= e the change only in the new AVP, so there is no compatibility issue with e= xisting RFC4006 elements?

 

Yuval

 

From: Gardella= , Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [m= ailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-iet= f-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= o:p>

 

Hello all,

 

One comment on the = reference for the NAI format:

 

In the existing:

 

8.47<= a name=3D"section-8.47">.  Subscription-Id-Ty= pe AVP

 

END_USER_NAI 3

 

   The identifier is in the form of a N= etwork Access Identifier, as

   defined in [RFC2486].

 

And the newly creat= ed :

 

8.62<= a name=3D"section-8.62">.  Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP

 

 

   The Subscription-I= d-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String.  The

   Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP contains the identifier in the form of a

   Network Access Ide= ntifier, as defined in [RFC2486].

 

The reference is RF= C 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Als= o RFC 6733 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 42= 82.

 

BR

Maryse

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen
Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01
To: dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-= rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /p>

 

Folks,

 

This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf= -dime-rfc4006bis-02. The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time.

Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket= ) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. Silenc= e does not count as acceptance.

 

- Jouni & Lionel

 

 

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--_000_C43C255C7106314F8D13D03FA20CFE497007FABDwtlexchp1sandvi_-- From nobody Fri Apr 28 04:43:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1E212E957; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.891 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1lwmVSC1sDzr; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.sandvine.com (mail1.sandvine.com [64.7.137.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 902EF124217; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WTL-EXCHP-1.sandvine.com ([fe80::ac6b:cc1e:f2ff:93aa]) by WTL-EXCHP-3.sandvine.com ([fe80::3c39:d305:d721:f00a%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:39:48 -0400 From: Dave Dolson To: Yuval Lifshitz , "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" , jouni korhonen , "dime@ietf.org list" CC: "draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org" , Yuval Lifshitz Thread-Topic: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Thread-Index: AQHStz/24gA9nYAO5kyNlVyqvmNlc6HZRtuAgABM+YD///q4YIABD8kAgAAbcis= Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:39:47 +0000 Message-ID: <20170428113946.5161041.83399.10532@sandvine.com> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-c2processedorg: b2f06e69-072f-40ee-90c5-80a34e700794 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2017042811394651610418339910532sandvinecom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 X-BeenThere: dime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Diameter Maintanence and Extentions Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:43:21 -0000 --_000_2017042811394651610418339910532sandvinecom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If nodes accept RFC7542 in END_USER_NAI, is anything broken? Can we say "MAY accept..."? David Dolson Sandvine From: Yuval Lifshitz Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 2:01 AM To: Dave Dolson; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@= ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Following 3 issues are noted in appendix A of RFC4282: o International character set support has been added for both usernames and realms. Note that this implies character codes 128 - 255 may be used in the username portion, which may be unacceptable to nodes that only support RFC 2486. Many devices already allow this behaviour, however. o Username privacy support has been added. Note that NAIs without a username (for privacy) may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant nodes. Many devices already allow this behaviour, however. o A recommendation to support NAI length of at least 253 octets has been added, and compatibility considerations among NAI lengths in this specification and various AAA protocols are discussed. Note that long NAIs may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant nodes. And from appendix A of RFC7542 (as you noted): * The formal syntax in Section 2.1 has been updated to forbid non-UTF-8 characters (e.g., characters with the "high bit" set). This means that there is incompatibility in both directions between RFC2486= and RFC7542. Therefore, if we want to preserver compatibility between RFC4006 and RFC400= 6bis, would suggest to use the new format only in the newly added AVP. From: Dave Dolson Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:10 PM To: Yuval Lifshitz; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; di= me@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Without digging too deeply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7= 542 is backwards compatible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit= ASCII. The gray area seems to be the binary encoding. Any RFC2486 string may incl= ude a binary value from %x00-7F, as I read it. So, we could say senders SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accep= t RFC7542-invalid strings for backwards compatibility. As I see it, operators require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already usin= g them, so we should update the END_USER_NAI. -Dave From: Yuval Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvine.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Maryse and All, Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted = (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in = Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they modified their predecessors in = non-backward-compatible manner. We should probably make the change only in the new AVP, so there is no comp= atibility issue with existing RFC4006 elements? Yuval From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com= ] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Hello all, One comment on the reference for the NAI format: In the existing: 8.47. Subscription-Id-Type AVP END_USER_NAI 3 The identifier is in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. And the newly created : 8.62. Subscription-Id-NAI AVP The Subscription-Id-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String. The Subscription-Id-NAI AVP contains the identifier in the form of a Network Access Identifier, as defined in [RFC2486]. The reference is RFC 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 67= 33 (which is the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282. BR Maryse -----Original Message----- From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01 To: dime@ietf.org list > Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02 Folks, This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02. The W= GLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time. Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newt= icket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is = ready, express that also on the list. Silence does not count as acceptance. - Jouni & Lionel _______________________________________________ DiME mailing list DiME@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dime --_000_2017042811394651610418339910532sandvinecom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David Dolson
Sandvine
From: Yuval Lifshitz
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 2:01 AM
To: Dave Dolson; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni kor= honen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bi= s-02

Following 3 issues are= noted in appendix A of RFC4282:

 

   o  International character= set support has been added for both

      usernames and= realms.  Note that this implies character codes 128

      - 255 may be = used in the username portion, which may be

    &= nbsp; unacceptable to nodes that only support RFC 2486= .  Many devices

      already allow= this behaviour, however.

 

   o  Username privacy suppor= t has been added.  Note that NAIs without a

      username (for= privacy) may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant

    &= nbsp; nodes.  Many devices already allow this behaviour= , however.

 

   o  A recommendation to sup= port NAI length of at least 253 octets has

      been added, a= nd compatibility considerations among NAI lengths in

      this specific= ation and various AAA protocols are discussed.  Note

      that long NAIs may not be acceptable to RFC 2486-compliant nodes.

 

And from appendix A of= RFC7542 (as you noted):

 

*  The formal syntax in Section 2.1 has been upd=
ated to forbid
    =
;  non-UTF-8 characters (e.g., char=
acters with the "high bit" set).

 

This means that there = is incompatibility in both directions between RFC2486 and RFC7542.

Therefore, if we want = to preserver compatibility between RFC4006 and RFC4006bis, would suggest to= use the new format only in the newly added AVP.

 

 

From: Dave D= olson
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:10 PM
To: Yuval Lifshitz; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korho= nen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /span>

 

Without digging too de= eply, it seems the jump directly from RFC2486 to RFC7542 is backwards compa= tible, since UTF-8 is backwards compatible with 7-bit ASCII.

 

The gray area seems to= be the binary encoding.  Any RFC2486 string may include a binary valu= e from %x00-7F, as I read it.

 

So, we could say sende= rs SHOULD conform to RFC7542, and receivers MAY accept RFC7542-invalid stri= ngs for backwards compatibility.

 

As I see it, operators= require UTF-8 strings, and are probably already using them, so we should u= pdate the END_USER_NAI.

 

 

 

-Dave

 

 

 

From: Yuval = Lifshitz [mailto:ylifshitz@sandvi= ne.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:08 AM
To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay); jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-iet= f-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org; Yuval Lifshitz
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /span>

 

Maryse and All,

Seems like RFC4282 was also obsoleted (in 2015) by RFC7542. And as noted in Appendix A of both RFC4282 and RFC7542 they mo= dified their predecessors in non-backward-compatible manner.

We should probably mak= e the change only in the new AVP, so there is no compatibility issue with e= xisting RFC4006 elements?

 

Yuval

 

From: Gardel= la, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:32 PM
To: jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list
Cc: draft-iet= f-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02<= /span>

 

Hello all, <= /p>

 

One comment on the = reference for the NAI format:

 

In the existing:

 

8.47<= a name=3D"section-8.47">.  Subscription-Id-Ty= pe AVP

 

END_USER_NAI 3

 

   The identifier is in the form of a N= etwork Access Identifier, as

   defined in [RFC2486].

 

And the newly creat= ed :

 

8.62<= a name=3D"section-8.62">.  Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP

 

 

   The Subscription-I= d-NAI (AVP Code TBD11) is of type UTF8String.  The

   Subscription-Id-NA= I AVP contains the identifier in the form of a

   Network Access Ide= ntifier, as defined in [RFC2486].

 

The reference is RF= C 2486, however it is obsoleted by RFC 4282. Also RFC 6733 (which is = the DBP reference now for RFC4006bis) refers to RFC 4282.

 

BR

Maryse

 

-----Original Message-----
From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of jouni korhonen
Sent: lundi 17 avril 2017 08:01
To: dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-dime-= rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: [ALU] [Dime] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

 

Folks,

 

This email starts a 2 week WGLC #1 for draft-ietf= -dime-rfc4006bis-02. The WGLC ends 4/30/17 23:59 pacific time.

Submit your comments to issue tracker (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dime/newticket) and to mailing list. If you think the document needs no work and is ready, express that also on the list. Silenc= e does not count as acceptance.

 

- Jouni & Lionel

 

 

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Set proxy on freeRADIUS (my status is requested is not being proxied) 2. Set NAS on freeDiameter (due to lack of documentation I am not able to understand where to define Radius as a NAS) 3. Send message back to freeRADIUS (I think this will be done automatically by Diameter once the above tasks are completed) my current status is freeRADIUS is: [suffix] Looking up realm "wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org" for ser-Name = "1404100508859867@wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org" [suffix] Found realm "wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org" [suffix] Adding Stripped-User-Name = "1404100508859867" [suffix] Adding Realm = "wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org" [suffix] Proxying request from user 1404100508859867 to realm wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org [suffix] Preparing to proxy authentication request to realm "wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org" ++[suffix] = updated [eap] Request is supposed to be proxied to Realm wlan.mnc010.mcc404.3gppnetwork.org. 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