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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 17:10:09 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_Qz62WlS3WgQAQhJ8jW+2Lw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, The chairs would like to draw the WG's attention to an IPR statement on the Discovery Proxy: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2119/ This statement was filed in 2013 on draft-cheshire-mdnsext-hybrid-01 and incorrectly withdrawn later; it has now been reinstated. draft-cheshire-mdnsext-hybrid-01 has now become draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 which was recently submitted by the WG to the IESG. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 We believe that the WG previously had no objections to the Hybrid Proxy draft (now referred to as the Discovery Proxy draft) proceeding within the IETF with the associated IPR statement. However, if any such concerns exist, please let the chairs know. As a reminder, last call for this draft ends on 2017-10-12. Regards, David Schinazi --Boundary_(ID_Qz62WlS3WgQAQhJ8jW+2Lw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello,

The = chairs would like to draw the WG's attention to an IPR statement on the = Discovery Proxy:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2119/

This statement was filed = in 2013 on draft-cheshire-mdnsext-hybrid-01 and incorrectly withdrawn = later; it has now been reinstated.
draft-cheshire-mdnsext-hybrid-01 has now become = draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 which was recently submitted by the WG to the = IESG.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07

We believe that = the WG previously had no objections to the Hybrid Proxy draft (now = referred to as the Discovery Proxy draft) proceeding within the IETF = with the associated IPR statement.
However, if any = such concerns exist, please let the chairs know. As a reminder, last = call for this draft ends on 2017-10-12.

Regards,
David = Schinazi
= --Boundary_(ID_Qz62WlS3WgQAQhJ8jW+2Lw)-- From nobody Sat Oct 7 15:47:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89B113239C; Sat, 7 Oct 2017 15:47:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Halpern To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150741644089.23000.1690410715049859696@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 15:47:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 22:47:21 -0000 Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review Date: 2017-10-07 IETF LC End Date: 2017-10-12 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard Major issues: N/A Minor issues: N/A Nits/editorial comments: Given the confusion I experienced reading the early portions of the document, a reference at the end of the introduction to the domain discovery mechanisms may help readers. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 23:00:42 -0000 Hello everyone, The IETF 100 preliminary agenda has us 9:30-12:00 on Wednesday Morning. That's longer than last time but I think we will have much to discuss. If you have any drafts or topics you would like to discuss, please let the chairs know. As a reminder, the draft cutoff is on 2017-10-30. Thanks, David Schinazi From nobody Fri Oct 20 17:30:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12AA134555; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, terry.manderson@icann.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150854546798.20809.12964038396430196688.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] dnssd - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 100 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 00:24:28 -0000 Dear David Schinazi, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. dnssd Session 1 (2:00:00) Wednesday, Morning Session I 0930-1200 Room Name: Canning size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: David Schinazi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 75 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: intarea 6lo dprive homenet dnsop 6man saag v6ops Second Priority: dhc babel ipsecme People who must be present: Ralph Droms Ted Lemon Dr. Stuart D. Cheshire Tim Chown Terry Manderson David Schinazi Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sun Oct 22 23:02:21 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietf.org Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007E313DB38; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Jaeggli To: Cc: dnssd@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150873853892.24503.4725209571775987336@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 23:02:18 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [dnssd] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 X-BeenThere: dnssd@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Discussion of extensions to DNS-based service discovery for routed networks." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 06:02:19 -0000 Reviewer: Joel Jaeggli Review result: Has Nits I reviewed this draft draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-07 on behalf of the operations and management area directorate. While the security considerations do address the problem of information leakage from publishing information in DNS zones that may be resolvable from outside the administrative zone that they are intended to be used in, I think the reverse zone and in particular the IPv4 reverse zone are particularly subject to this problem. if the nameservers serving the reverse zone are those to which the public ipv4 prefix is delegated then is is possible to walk the zone, trolling for hosts that may not otherwise be easy to identify (because you do not know apriori what services they might be advertising). This might identify particular hosts, but it also might be used to identify subnets in which dynamic allocation occur or where hosts come and go. I think it would be desirable to provide explanatory texts on the potential dangers of exposing the reverse zones in particular. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 16:10:56 -0000 Hi everyone I've been meaning to post some comments on draft-sctl-service-registration-00 for a while; finally got around to writing this down. These are partly based on differences between what the draft specifies and my implementation[1]. Since the draft is in somewhat of an early stage, I did not think it made sense to do detailed section-by-section commenting. So instead, here follows some general comments for discussion, in no particular order: - It is not clear how to find the server to register with: Section 2 refers to RFC2136 and RFC3007 for the DNS Update mechanism, and to RFC6763 Section 11 for information on how to discover the zones to attempt registration in. So from my best reading of this, the client should discover the relevant zones, then just send its signed updates to any authoritative server for those zones. However, this prevents implementing the registration logic as a proxy (as I'm currently doing). So I feel like there should be a SRV lookup in there somewhere? I seem to recall Stuart telling me that this is indeed specified somewhere, but my google fu is failing me right now, and in any case it's not clear from the draft how this process is supposed to work. - Different expiry times for different records: Section 5 mentions that the server should keep the SIG(0) public key for much longer than the other records, but does not specify how that is to be accomplished. If the server just picks a cache time for the key, that effectively prevents the client from specifying how long it has this key available; think a client with no permanent storage which generates a key at startup and keeps it in memory, but wants to make sure it is not cached for longer than the other records so it can reclaim it if it needs to reboot. I currently implement a per-record lease time by overloading the TTL of the DNS Update packet coming from the client: The TTL in the update packet has the same meaning as the lease time in the current version of the draft (except it's per-record), and the server will install the actual records into DNS with a different TTL. I'm not sure that is a better way to do it, though. - Address-based ACLs: Obviously, in most cases a client should only be able to perform registration if it is actually on the right network. Firewalling off the ports from outside the relevant networks is a way to ensure this, but it is somewhat of a crude tool. For one, it prevents a single registration server / proxy from serving multiple networks. For another, it prevents a use case where a client is only allowed *initial* registration (when the key is first cached) from inside the network, but is allowed to subsequently update the same record from anywhere. This is useful to, for instance, have my laptop maintain my-laptop.myhome.example.org even when visiting another network. So another way to ensure this source verification is needed, I think. The way I implemented it is to have the registration server only speak TCP; that way, source address spoofing is not possible (as that would make the handshake fail), and the server can simply implement a straight-forward ACL policy. - It is not quite clear to me whether the sleep proxy described in section 4 is an optional feature or if its meant to be mandatory. Stuart explained its usefulness for devices that power off when not in use, requiring this function will mean that registration servers will need to be on the local link, which is somewhat limiting. Also, the implementation complexity goes way up (I certainly don't plan to implement this feature :)). So I think having a way for the server to signal "no, I can't perform sleep proxying" to the client would be good to allow things to fail in a graceful way. -Toke [1] https://github.com/tohojo/nsregd From nobody Mon Oct 30 03:00:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dnssd@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C975B13F963 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=jisc.ac.uk Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7jnep8wdHwWd for ; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 13:40:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG of the IETF. Title : DNS Push Notifications Authors : Tom Pusateri Stuart Cheshire Filename : draft-ietf-dnssd-push-13.txt Pages : 41 Date : 2017-10-30 Abstract: The Domain Name System (DNS) was designed to return matching records efficiently for queries for data that is relatively static. When those records change frequently, DNS is still efficient at returning the updated results when polled, as long as the polling rate is not too high. But there exists no mechanism for a client to be asynchronously notified when these changes occur. This document defines a mechanism for a client to be notified of such changes to DNS records, called DNS Push Notifications. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-push/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-push-13 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-push-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnssd-push-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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IETF100, Singapore
Wednesday, November 15, 2017
9:30-12:00 Local Time
Canning Room

Chairs' Introduction                                                     =
      Chairs, 5 mins

DNS-SD Privacy drafts                                                    =
      Chairs, Stuart Cheshire, 20 mins
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-privacy
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-pairing
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-pairing-info
    (new document from Stuart Cheshire to be published soon)

Report on the Last Call for draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid                      =
      Stuart Cheshire, 10 mins
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid

Update on draft-ietf-dnssd-push and draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal      =
      Stuart Cheshire, 20 mins
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-push
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal=
 (dnsop)

Update on documents created before IETF 99                               =
      Stuart Cheshire, 20 mins
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheshire-dnssd-roadmap
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-service-registration=

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-discovery-broker
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay

Report on the DNSSD testing at the IETF 100 Hackathon                    =
      Stuart Cheshire, Ted Lemon, 30 mins

draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming                                         =
      Stuart Cheshire, Ted Lemon, 30 mins
    https://github.com/Abhayakara/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-=
arch (document to be published soon)

Chairs' Conclusion                                                       =
      Chairs, 5 mins

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:57:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C4E20924-2520-4E09-A201-553E9C25984B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've submitted a new version of the Discovery Proxy relay draft, which = we will be discussing in Singapore. Please give it a read if you are = interested and have time! > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01.txt > Date: October 30, 2017 at 5:53:44 PM EDT > To: > Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >=20 >=20 > Title : Multicast DNS Discovery Relay > Authors : Stuart Cheshire > Ted Lemon > Filename : draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2017-10-30 >=20 > Abstract: > This document extends the Discovery Proxy for Multicast DNS-Based > Service Discovery specification. It describes a lightweight relay > mechanism, a Discovery Relay, which allows Discovery Proxies to > provide service on links to which the hosts on which they are = running > are not directly attached. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --Apple-Mail=_C4E20924-2520-4E09-A201-553E9C25984B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I've submitted a new version of the Discovery Proxy relay = draft, which we will be discussing in Singapore.   Please give it a = read if you are interested and have time!

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A New = Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories.


=        Title =           : Multicast = DNS Discovery Relay
=        Authors =         : Stuart Cheshire
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Ted Lemon
Filename =        : = draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01.txt
Pages =           : 15
= Date =            : = 2017-10-30

Abstract:
=   This document extends the Discovery Proxy for Multicast = DNS-Based
  Service Discovery specification. =  It describes a lightweight relay
=   mechanism, a Discovery Relay, which allows Discovery Proxies = to
  provide service on links to which the = hosts on which they are running
  are not = directly attached.


The IETF = datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay/

There are also htmlized versions = available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay-01
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-rel= ay-01

A diff from the previous version is = available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-sctl-dnssd-mdns-relay= -01


Please note that it may = take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
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