From mserra@ravemobilesafety.com Mon Apr 2 18:41:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F63D21F859F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.14 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.14 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, J_CHICKENPOX_84=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V7dKq1GLMQOx for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D621F857F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:41:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 4/2/2012 8:41:25 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - ravemobilesafety.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - ravemobilesafety.com X-Primary: mserra@ravemobilesafety.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: @ravemobilesafety.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNKNOWN->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.35.1 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: X-Note-Return-Path: mserra@ravemobilesafety.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G237 G238 G239 G240 G244 G245 G256 G347 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.35.1] (HELO smtp.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 274484189; Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:41:25 -0500 Received: from MBX05.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.17]) by HT04.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.33]) with mapi; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:41:25 -0500 From: Matt Serra To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 20:41:02 -0500 Thread-Topic: Feedback against Additional Call Data from NENA Additional Data WG Thread-Index: Ac0ROtP9Y5eFWko9RSSriWA5wmyNqw== Message-ID: <6B92B1E73D1E7B468E5C97CAE569CBA1068A69F6DC@MBX05.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Addl Data WG Subject: [Ecrit] Feedback against Additional Call Data from NENA Additional Data WG X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:41:28 -0000 To the IEFT ECRIT WG: Below is an additional set of feedback collected through NENA's Additional = Data Work Group. We ask that these comments be considered against the most= current Additional Call Data draft (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-= ecrit-additional-data-03). Much of this feedback stems from our analysis o= f mapping between the proposed Additional Call Data format, and legacy ALI = data formats. 1. Main Telephone Number The data structure addCallSub lacks a mechanism to distinguish the specific= "Main Telephone Number" designation of a main number appearing in the subs= criber's data. The addCallSub's vCARD structure may specify multiple telep= hone numbers, and elements are defined in the vCARD schema for conveying pa= rameters. However, no specific parameter values are defined that adequatel= y describe"main telephone number" as conveyed in some emergency calling sce= narios. 1.1 Legacy Context: Main Telephone Number is a data element supported in No= rth American legacy emergency calling scenarios. When a legacy call is gat= ewayed into an i3 ESInet, this number may be populated in additional call d= ata by an LNG. 1.2 Suggested IANA registered values for XML vCARD RFC 6350/6351 ref. http:= //www.iana.org/assignments/vcard-elements/vcard-elements.xml 1.2.1 Property/Parameter: RFC 6350 and RFC 6351, vcard/tel/parameters/type/= text 1.2.2 Values: Main 1.3 Suggested changes to draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data: Require use of t= he IANA registered 'tel' parameter values when a more than one 'tel' elemen= t is populated in a vCARD. 2. Convey Service Provider The data structure addCallSvcInfo needs a mechanism to convey identity info= rmation describing the provider of the calling service that is offered to t= he end user (which may be different than the provider of the data as define= d in draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-03 section 4). 2.1 Legacy context Data Provider (CPS) and Access Provider (CPF) are data elements supported i= n North American legacy calling. When a legacy call is gatewayed into an i= 3 ESInet, both of these providers should be represented in the additional c= all data populated by an LNG. 2.2 Suggested changes to draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data 2.2.1 Add the following fields to the addCallSvcInfo data structure describ= ed in Section 5, using equivalent descriptions given in Section 4 addDataPr= oviderInfo as a template: * Service Provider String * Service Provider ID * Service Provider Contact URI * Service Provider Language (s) Supported * vCARD of Service Provider 2.2.2 Add the fields to the addCallSvcInfo and addDataProviderInfo data str= ucture to describe the following concepts, where the new fields are conditi= onal, provided only when Provider information exists for both "service" and= "data": * Relationship (between data and service provider) * Either an Implicit (fixed order) or Explicit (numbered) sequence of escal= ation. 3. Service Delivered by Provider to End-User The description of Service Delivered by Provider to End-User notes " There = can be more than one value returned." However the XML defines a 'maxOccurs= =3D"1"' restriction on the SvcDelByProvider element. 3.1 Suggested changes to draft-ietf-ecrit-additional data: remove "maxOcc= urs" restriction on this field. 4. Additional data not authorized (by-value conveyance) There is no mechanism defined in draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-03 to con= vey (by value) the semantic that additional data was attempted to be obtain= ed from the authoritative data provider, but none provided due to access li= mitations. When additional data is conveyed by reference, this indication = could be served by status codes defined for the dereference protocol (e.g. = HTTP 403 Forbidden). But since these dereference protocol status codes are= not included when additional data is conveyed by value, the semantic that = access to additional data is not authorized is lost. 4.1 Legacy context: An Anonymous Call indication is defined for North Amer= ican calling scenarios, which is often used in association with the calling= devices of dignitaries or other sensitive callers/devices. This condition= is not indicative of an error condition, and the indication of an anonymou= s call conveys that the data is not provided by intent. 4.2 Suggested changes to draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data This function is served by fields in the PPI and PAI. We recommend an info= rmative statement be added to the Introduction to clarify this. For exampl= e, one might say: "In regions where callers can elect to suppress certain = personally identifying information, the network or PSAP functionality can i= nspect privacy flags within the identity header to drive what information i= s passed, stored, or displayed to comply with local policy or law." 5. Participants The following members of the NENA Additional Data Work Group contributed to= this input, as well as the input submitted on February 22, 2012: Ric Atkins, Brian Dupras, Roya Esfandi, Mark Fletcher, Karl Larsen, Roger M= arshall, Crystal McDuffie, Kathy McMahon, Christian Militeau, Michelle Pete= rson, Ira Pyles, Brian Rosen, Matthew Serra, Jeff Torres, Hannes Tschofenig= , Daniel Zacek Regards, Matthew A. Serra, ENP NENA Additional Data Work-Group Chair Sr. Director, Product Management=20 Rave Mobile Safety | Smart911 Mobile:=A0=A0201.245.1557 mserra@ravemobilesafety.com From internet-drafts@ietf.org Wed Apr 4 22:42:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A0F21F8759; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Gp8JfJjW7s7; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CA321F875A; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:42:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120405054235.11358.20646.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:42:35 -0700 Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-03.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 05:42:36 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Int= ernet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Trustworthy Location Information Author(s) : Hannes Tschofenig Henning Schulzrinne Bernard Aboba Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-03.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2012-04-04 For some location-based applications, such as emergency calling or roadside assistance, it is important to be able to determine whether location information is trustworthy. This document outlines potential threats to trustworthy location and analyzes the operational issues with potential solutions. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-0= 3.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-03= .txt From rjsparks@nostrum.com Fri Apr 20 08:32:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5A521F87A9 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IP6lkCntWzP4 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A4521F87A1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dn3-177.estacado.net (vicuna-alt.estacado.net [75.53.54.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3KFWGIl028977 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:32:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4F91817F.80907@nostrum.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:32:15 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ecrit@ietf.org, Gonzalo Camarillo , Roger Marshall , ecrit-chairs@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 75.53.54.121 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [Ecrit] Please welcome Roger Marshall as an ECRIT cochair X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:32:27 -0000 ECRIT - Roger has agreed to take on the chair role for the ECRIT working group. Please join me in welcoming him to this role and thanking him for the years (going on 5 if I remember correctly) he's put in as secretary for this group. He'll be joining Marc and Richard for a short transition period after which Marc and Roger will chair this group. Thanks Roger! RjS From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Apr 26 09:47:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE49321E80B8 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IFCk7PWZkX4Q for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DC711E809D for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unexplicable.local (pool-71-244-61-199.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.244.61.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q3QGlAsV032482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:47:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4F997C0E.1010403@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:47:10 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ecrit@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-sync@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 71.244.61.199 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [Ecrit] Revised ID needed for draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-sync X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:47:12 -0000 After today's telechat, there is one discuss on this draft to correct some language in the type registration section. There are also a number of editorial suggestions to consider while revising the draft to address the discuss. RjS