From nobody Mon Feb 6 14:33:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12DC129456; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 14:33:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.42.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148642041783.18914.6155321622256658163.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 14:33:37 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-25.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:33:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies of the IETF. Title : Next-Generation Pan-European eCall Authors : Randall Gellens Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-25.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2017-02-06 Abstract: This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services mechanisms to support the next generation of the pan European in- vehicle emergency call service defined under the eSafety initiative of the European Commission (generally referred to as "eCall"). eCall is a standardized and mandated system for a special form of emergency calls placed by vehicles, providing real-time communications and an integrated set of related data. This document also registers MIME media types and an Emergency Call Additional Data Block for the eCall vehicle data and metadata/control data, and an INFO package to enable carrying this data in SIP INFO requests. Although this specification is designed to meet the requirements of European next-generation eCall, it is specified generically such that the technology can be re-used or extended to suit requirements across jurisdictions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-25 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-25 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 7 08:37:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83B2129412; Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:37:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.42.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148648546287.16280.17077541099379919319.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 08:37:42 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: Allison Mankin , ecrit-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash@ietf.org, The IESG , ecrit@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Ecrit] Protocol Action: 'Next-Generation Vehicle-Initiated Emergency Calls' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-23.txt) X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2017 16:37:43 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Next-Generation Vehicle-Initiated Emergency Calls' (draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash-23.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alexey Melnikov, Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash/ Technical Summary draft-ietf-ecrit-car-crash specifies IETF mechanisms to support next-generation vehicle-initiated emergency calls in multiple regions, including North America. It builds on the foundation provided for the pan-European eCall service and it is normatively dependent on draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall, proceeding in parallel. The document also registers a MIME media type and an INFO package. External SDOs (including NENA, the I_HeERO [Harmonised eCall European Deployment] project, and others) have references to this document, and are waiting for an RFC number. Working Group Summary The document was reviewed by a large number of people during its development. Towards the end it received a large number of comments from a small number of people, and their comments were carefully considered, and resolved with good (mostly not rough) consensus. Multiple WG participants also participate in the SDOs intending to use this document and have made sure the document meets the needs of those SDOs. Document Quality There are not presently implementations of the protocol, but the SDOs charged with overall next-generation pan-European emergency call have many vendors interested in implementation of the car-crash protocol on a quick timetable. A media type registered by this document was posted for received expert review on the mediatypes mailing list. It did not receive direct comments, but it had the same issue as the media type registered by draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall, which was resolved with the help of Ned Freed. The thread for that issue begins at: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/media-types/current/msg00835.html The request for review on this document's media type is here: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/media-types/current/msg00842.html Other types of formal expert review were not required. Personnel Allison Mankin is the Document Shepherd. Alissa Cooper is the Responsible Area Director. From nobody Fri Feb 10 09:55:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E94E129421; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 09:55:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.43.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 09:55:36 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:55:36 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies of the IETF. Title : Next-Generation Pan-European eCall Authors : Randall Gellens Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2017-02-10 Abstract: This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services mechanisms to support the next generation of the pan European in- vehicle emergency call service defined under the eSafety initiative of the European Commission (generally referred to as "eCall"). eCall is a standardized and mandated system for a special form of emergency calls placed by vehicles, providing real-time communications and an integrated set of related data. This document also registers MIME media types and an Emergency Call Additional Data Block for the eCall vehicle data and metadata/control data, and an INFO package to enable carrying this data in SIP INFO requests. Although this specification is designed to meet the requirements of European next-generation eCall, it is specified generically such that the technology can be re-used or extended to suit requirements across jurisdictions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Feb 10 11:33:24 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A47129B1F for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:33:22 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UrjpGDXa0YDj for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB32129B1D for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:26:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 11:33:18 -0800 To: ecrit@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:33:22 -0000 The only change in this update of the eCall draft is to remove the "+per" suffix. This was necessary because the designated expert for MIME content type structured content suffix pointed out that ASN.1 PER encoding can't be understood independently of the content (unlike XML, which can be parsed without understanding the content). As a result, the MIME content type has changed from application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD+per to application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. From nobody Sat Feb 11 03:14:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6F1129410 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 03:14:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.72 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cooperw.in header.b=Pk8bVbJM; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=sY796IJ4 Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQ_sMx8Sg_lf for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 03:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1C34127601 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 03:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151E72064F; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 06:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 11 Feb 2017 06:14:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cooperw.in; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=hGbXQ7cyMaUr5SD nR3pvOjfR3s8=; b=Pk8bVbJMVpBK1bFksIAa4yhlw8RR+8ZAvPQQ0OHmJiDJU5X aNwPikmGrCR1G7S2hOAgCv11q5l1mu2b3EkTE/urTHEZQCku7ujkvGr8F+bCl+3d Raq1EqX6GSoaH5cwDSYE/D1lXcazbZUjnXjHwn2buZd1ktd/156K04T1kbN0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s= smtpout; bh=hGbXQ7cyMaUr5SDnR3pvOjfR3s8=; b=sY796IJ4qZBppUBFbkg+ D7JSJwa80YRC0/zpIb/fL4DyCFg29jYzpmugHw2nCfkSpC8q0a4UVoN4brMz8lx9 VxyNYQpJqurdpo/PINrPYOXCLecZeGGfjmZGmHHNLOFriQ8K7q/q1w6Q8Szk1FzI WcXrPoNo6KMY4hYGqPKg++M= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: caIHuiZP1LBfyoojCaVvBv3tnO4M9j56zc2M0FO6weoI 1486811679 Received: from [10.24.101.174] (unknown [128.107.241.191]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 730BD24216; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 06:14:39 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 06:22:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Randall Gellens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:14:42 -0000 Unless there are objections to this by Feb 15, we=E2=80=99ll move = forward with the document approval. Thanks, Alissa > On Feb 10, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randall Gellens = wrote: >=20 > The only change in this update of the eCall draft is to remove the = "+per" suffix. This was necessary because the designated expert for = MIME content type structured content suffix pointed out that ASN.1 PER = encoding can't be understood independently of the content (unlike XML, = which can be parsed without understanding the content). As a result, = the MIME content type has changed from = application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD+per to = application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD. >=20 > --=20 > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself = only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > 2 + 2 =3D 5 for extremely large values of 2. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit From nobody Sun Feb 12 02:58:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCA712948F for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 02:58:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A1gZuAT5ozfg for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 02:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sessmg22.ericsson.net (sessmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAC7F127A90 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 02:58:19 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3a-7c3ff70000005e23-c0-58a03fc75a7b Received: from ESESSHC021.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.81]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 16.C9.24099.7CF30A85; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:58:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.76]) by ESESSHC021.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.81]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:58:15 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: Alissa Cooper , Randall Gellens Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt Thread-Index: AQHSg8bkGkC1701BEkqt8epwvJin6qFikL4AgAEJNYCAAZuvAA== Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.148] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpkkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGbE9UPek/YIIg7+LLC2mn/nLaNG46Cmr xffnXYwOzB5fnrxk8liy5CeTx9Y7j1kCmKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Mm72TGIsWCVecfnBHMYG xjtiXYwcHBICJhIvrwp3MXJyCAmsY5SY2esAYS9mlFh5KBykhE3AQqL7nzZIWEQgROL51U9s IDazgKrEucbHLCC2sICdxMNLK5ggauwlrpz/DWU7Sdz9OIsZxGYBqt/X9JkFZCSvgK/E3C0h XYxcQJvWMEo8nv6MFaSGE2jOk1XL2EFsRgExie+n1jBB7BKXuPVkPpgtISAgsWTPeWYIW1Ti 5eN/rBC2kkTjkiesIPOZBTQl1u/Sh2hVlJjS/RBsJK+AoMTJmU9YJjCKzkIydRZCxywkHbOQ dCxgZFnFKFqcWlycm25kpJdalJlcXJyfp5eXWrKJERgxB7f8ttrBePC54yFGAQ5GJR5eg/j5 EUKsiWXFlbmHGCU4mJVEeNltF0QI8aYkVlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES5zVbeT9cSCA9sSQ1 OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwJjv+W3JM+G5K6zafphbT5jXZrX7spPZnqOreh4aCp9cemCb1EzbWY+T +yboHT809cqWk5YZwnaWQScTnZ7eu/Zl5dNl54/s3KXC9uj429/dBVJNCWUmlr80WaY0iTwR CpR+2vN0oZv2FVm7ZR/zH9lFayxTCHzw8LlyJFcHc8vHrIK5DRO5nN4psRRnJBpqMRcVJwIA +YEH0JQCAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "ecrit@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:58:35 -0000 SGksDQoNCk9uZSBzbWFsbCBjb21tZW50Lg0KDQpTZWN0aW9uIDYgc2F5czoNCg0KICAgIkFuIE1T RCBvciBhIG1ldGFkYXRhL2NvbnRyb2wgYmxvY2sgaXMgYWx3YXlzIGVuY2xvc2VkIGluIGEgbXVs dGlwYXJ0DQogICAobm9ybWFsbHkgbXVsdGlwYXJ0L21peGVkKSBib2R5IHBhcnQgKGV2ZW4gaWYg aXQgd291bGQgb3RoZXJ3aXNlIGJlDQogICB0aGUgb25seSBib2R5IHBhcnQgaW4gdGhlIFNJUCBt ZXNzYWdlKSwgc2luY2UgYXMgb2YgdGhlIGRhdGUgb2YgdGhpcw0KICAgZG9jdW1lbnQsIHRoZSB1 c2Ugb2YgQ29udGVudC1JRCBhcyBhIFNJUCBoZWFkZXIgZmllbGQgaXMgbm90IGRlZmluZWQNCiAg ICh3aGlsZSBpdCBpcyBkZWZpbmVkIGZvciB1c2UgYXMgYSBNSU1FIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZCkuIg0K DQpkcmFmdC1pZXRmLXNpcGNvcmUtY29udGVudC1pZCwgd2hpY2ggZGVmaW5lcyBDb250ZW50LUlE IGFzIGEgU0lQIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZCwgaGFzIG5vdyBiZWVuIGFkb3B0ZWQgYnkgU0lQQ09SRS4N Cg0KU28sIEkgd29uZGVyIHdoZXRoZXIgd2UgY291bGQgc2ltcGx5IHJlbW92ZSB0aGUgc2Vjb25k IHBhcnQgb2YgdGhpcyBwYXJhZ3JhcGg/IEkgZG9uJ3QgdGhpbmsgd2UgbmVlZCB0byBjaGFuZ2Ug YW55dGhpbmcgZWxzZSwgYmVjYXVzZSBJIHRoaW5rIHdlIHN0aWxsIHdhbnQgdG8gYWx3YXlzIGVu Y2xvc2UgdGhlIHN0dWZmIGluIGEgbXVsdGlwYXJ0Lg0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KDQpDaHJpc3Rlcg0K DQoNCg0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogRWNyaXQgW21haWx0bzpl Y3JpdC1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnXSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgQWxpc3NhIENvb3Blcg0KU2VudDog MTEgRmVicnVhcnkgMjAxNyAxMzoyMw0KVG86IFJhbmRhbGwgR2VsbGVucyA8cmcraWV0ZkByYW5k eS5wZW5zaXZlLm9yZz4NCkNjOiBlY3JpdEBpZXRmLm9yZw0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtFY3JpdF0g SS1EIEFjdGlvbjogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1lY3JpdC1lY2FsbC0yNi50eHQNCg0KVW5sZXNzIHRoZXJl IGFyZSBvYmplY3Rpb25zIHRvIHRoaXMgYnkgRmViIDE1LCB3ZeKAmWxsIG1vdmUgZm9yd2FyZCB3 aXRoIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCBhcHByb3ZhbC4NCg0KVGhhbmtzLA0KQWxpc3NhDQoNCj4gT24gRmVi IDEwLCAyMDE3LCBhdCAyOjMzIFBNLCBSYW5kYWxsIEdlbGxlbnMgPHJnK2lldGZAcmFuZHkucGVu c2l2ZS5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOg0KPiANCj4gVGhlIG9ubHkgY2hhbmdlIGluIHRoaXMgdXBkYXRlIG9m IHRoZSBlQ2FsbCBkcmFmdCBpcyB0byByZW1vdmUgdGhlICIrcGVyIiBzdWZmaXguICBUaGlzIHdh cyBuZWNlc3NhcnkgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGUgZGVzaWduYXRlZCBleHBlcnQgZm9yIE1JTUUgY29udGVu dCB0eXBlIHN0cnVjdHVyZWQgY29udGVudCBzdWZmaXggcG9pbnRlZCBvdXQgdGhhdCBBU04uMSBQ RVIgZW5jb2RpbmcgY2FuJ3QgYmUgdW5kZXJzdG9vZCBpbmRlcGVuZGVudGx5IG9mIHRoZSBjb250 ZW50ICh1bmxpa2UgWE1MLCB3aGljaCBjYW4gYmUgcGFyc2VkIHdpdGhvdXQgdW5kZXJzdGFuZGlu ZyB0aGUgY29udGVudCkuICBBcyBhIHJlc3VsdCwgdGhlIE1JTUUgY29udGVudCB0eXBlIGhhcyBj aGFuZ2VkIGZyb20gYXBwbGljYXRpb24vZW1lcmdlbmN5Q2FsbERhdGEuZUNhbGwuTVNEK3BlciB0 byBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbi9lbWVyZ2VuY3lDYWxsRGF0YS5lQ2FsbC5NU0QuDQo+IA0KPiAtLSANCj4g UmFuZGFsbCBHZWxsZW5zDQo+IE9waW5pb25zIGFyZSBwZXJzb25hbDsgICAgZmFjdHMgYXJlIHN1 c3BlY3Q7ICAgIEkgc3BlYWsgZm9yIG15c2VsZiBvbmx5DQo+IC0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tIFJhbmRv bWx5IHNlbGVjdGVkIHRhZzogLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQo+IDIgKyAyID0gNSBmb3IgZXh0cmVt ZWx5IGxhcmdlIHZhbHVlcyBvZiAyLg0KPiANCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj4gRWNyaXQgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+IEVjcml0QGlldGYu b3JnDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCg0KX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCkVjcml0IG1haWxp bmcgbGlzdA0KRWNyaXRAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlz dGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCg== From nobody Sun Feb 12 11:19:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CED129AAF for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wuu7KRdSMPUZ for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C2121299E8 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.241]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id czgYcqtUQJ5z3czgYciT31; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:19:46 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1486927186; bh=pz1JpNNhWH80en4u6EXRK74BBAbmvnPWTnSPC++8HkU=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Bw88rcBrauBQ8Fd3QHT+EicyokOVzaI/B1Nq2PXa8vSb6teHPULAwP3JaCc7I5Swy GFo/ceHlQ7itP8JMBo3VMN0SSo6yme1kd0l3XN0xDCVdtcGU2OehY5lkeV/qLgyu65 RNtUGaNMtj8NvLHJGwBQ9xioOXhas40pcMe55WG1+55aCGi+h+h2VN280+1z+c4nSg J8UIjtImrOQKROd6YimvbhjKZpvEP+MYvp3QmzVTmXjfY2RPC78mhNiCzTm3eHsz9M pW/yL6+//JpSowEiLV/pyVLbTc/BhelQs3IZ8hvXUytG2t0AtrsRQyuYOXBa0nZEoE X2+7v/9l/DBJA== Received: from [192.168.1.110] ([73.186.127.100]) by resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id czgXcABpUe3QFczgXchJt7; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:19:46 +0000 To: ecrit@ietf.org References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> From: Paul Kyzivat Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:19:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfApSRh1yXVmtZ6nY3bxWJ/SWdlBLvf6g6UiVx061YGRH/NYQw3LKy0b0FraczpFoxK7Uuo2xtUo0XukUINMzbGkJQXstj4eXF5s2fRV4tpcCfM5lGJC5 EZnnCX0OszRdijw4sR0v1BSoedJoa1ZFt/vfS2GizYTVjH3ygAWH5Jin4SKlaha0+V82c4XZCmWLFA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:19:48 -0000 On 2/12/17 5:58 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > > One small comment. > > Section 6 says: > > "An MSD or a metadata/control block is always enclosed in a multipart > (normally multipart/mixed) body part (even if it would otherwise be > the only body part in the SIP message), since as of the date of this > document, the use of Content-ID as a SIP header field is not defined > (while it is defined for use as a MIME header field)." > > draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id, which defines Content-ID as a SIP header field, has now been adopted by SIPCORE. > > So, I wonder whether we could simply remove the second part of this paragraph? I don't think we need to change anything else, because I think we still want to always enclose the stuff in a multipart. Question: is there intent to remove the requirement to wrap the MSD in a multipart body once the the work in sipcore completes? Is it your goal to future proof this text so it need not be changed to accomplish that? Thanks, Paul > Regards, > > Christer > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: 11 February 2017 13:23 > To: Randall Gellens > Cc: ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt > > Unless there are objections to this by Feb 15, we’ll move forward with the document approval. > > Thanks, > Alissa > >> On Feb 10, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: >> >> The only change in this update of the eCall draft is to remove the "+per" suffix. This was necessary because the designated expert for MIME content type structured content suffix pointed out that ASN.1 PER encoding can't be understood independently of the content (unlike XML, which can be parsed without understanding the content). As a result, the MIME content type has changed from application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD+per to application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD. >> >> -- >> Randall Gellens >> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >> -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- >> 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > From nobody Sun Feb 12 11:54:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC3C129B05 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:54:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8CRb_pLJVEpV for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32388129B02 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:54:31 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-4bbfb70000006c88-ae-58a0bd7372c6 Received: from ESESSHC015.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.63]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 04.63.27784.37DB0A85; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:54:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.76]) by ESESSHC015.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.63]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:54:27 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: Paul Kyzivat , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt Thread-Index: AQHSg8bkGkC1701BEkqt8epwvJin6qFikL4AgAEJNYCAAZuvAIAAe/yAgAAX2iA= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:54:27 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrHLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7vW7p3gURBm1zVCwaFz1ltXjwo5fN gclj8uM5jB5LlvxkCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4Mq4vfMmU8ED1Yrz778yNjA+Ueli5OSQEDCR OH3xEmsXIxeHkMA6RokLb/4zQjiLGSXOfpoMlOHgYBOwkOj+pw3SICLgJ3H3zhU2EFtYwE7i 4aUVTBBxe4kr538zgZSD1JxotwUJswioSlx93wpWzivgK/F741yoXUuZJJY/7mEHSXAC9V7+ fxrMZhQQk/h+ag3YTGYBcYlbT+YzQRwqILFkz3lmCFtU4uXjf6wQtpLEiu2XGEH2MgtoSqzf pQ/RqigxpfshO8ReQYmTM5+wTGAUmYVk6iyEjllIOmYh6VjAyLKKUbQ4tTgpN93IWC+1KDO5 uDg/Ty8vtWQTIzAWDm75rbqD8fIbx0OMAhyMSjy8GzYsiBBiTSwrrsw9xCjBwawkwvt3N1CI NyWxsiq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I4r9nK++FCAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGRr9AfZ9Th3oO bkjOOlrYp57EGX6R8di1J7dWq1rfqxTf9Y31Kle1QMqqye2T9qb/O7/i7465dw28fh8Xdly7 aGrUET/5gF8vA+bEn9A8KfN9WerXlNKGzROz58s4Zgrc7LWb+eaWX1HZG+0V4Y4LnSsig+7L mHhcyjums6R0xbGVu9c4+f2cKKDEUpyRaKjFXFScCAA32xU+gQIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:54:33 -0000 SGksDQoNCj4+IE9uZSBzbWFsbCBjb21tZW50Lg0KPj4NCj4+IFNlY3Rpb24gNiBzYXlzOg0KPj4N Cj4+ICAgICJBbiBNU0Qgb3IgYSBtZXRhZGF0YS9jb250cm9sIGJsb2NrIGlzIGFsd2F5cyBlbmNs b3NlZCBpbiBhIG11bHRpcGFydA0KPj4gICAgKG5vcm1hbGx5IG11bHRpcGFydC9taXhlZCkgYm9k eSBwYXJ0IChldmVuIGlmIGl0IHdvdWxkIG90aGVyd2lzZSBiZQ0KPj4gICAgdGhlIG9ubHkgYm9k eSBwYXJ0IGluIHRoZSBTSVAgbWVzc2FnZSksIHNpbmNlIGFzIG9mIHRoZSBkYXRlIG9mIHRoaXMN Cj4+ICAgIGRvY3VtZW50LCB0aGUgdXNlIG9mIENvbnRlbnQtSUQgYXMgYSBTSVAgaGVhZGVyIGZp ZWxkIGlzIG5vdCBkZWZpbmVkDQo+PiAgICAod2hpbGUgaXQgaXMgZGVmaW5lZCBmb3IgdXNlIGFz IGEgTUlNRSBoZWFkZXIgZmllbGQpLiINCj4+DQo+PiBkcmFmdC1pZXRmLXNpcGNvcmUtY29udGVu dC1pZCwgd2hpY2ggZGVmaW5lcyBDb250ZW50LUlEIGFzIGEgU0lQIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZCwgaGFz IG5vdyBiZWVuIGFkb3B0ZWQgYnkgU0lQQ09SRS4NCj4+DQo+PiBTbywgSSB3b25kZXIgd2hldGhl ciB3ZSBjb3VsZCBzaW1wbHkgcmVtb3ZlIHRoZSBzZWNvbmQgcGFydCBvZiB0aGlzIHBhcmFncmFw aD8gSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayB3ZSBuZWVkIHRvIGNoYW5nZSANCj4+IGFueXRoaW5nIGVsc2UsIGJl Y2F1c2UgSSB0aGluayB3ZSBzdGlsbCB3YW50IHRvIGFsd2F5cyBlbmNsb3NlIHRoZSBzdHVmZiBp biBhIG11bHRpcGFydC4NCj4NCj4gUXVlc3Rpb246IGlzIHRoZXJlIGludGVudCB0byByZW1vdmUg dGhlIHJlcXVpcmVtZW50IHRvIHdyYXAgdGhlIE1TRCBpbiBhIG11bHRpcGFydCBib2R5IG9uY2Ug dGhlIHRoZSB3b3JrIGluIA0KPiBzaXBjb3JlIGNvbXBsZXRlcz8gSXMgaXQgeW91ciBnb2FsIHRv IGZ1dHVyZSBwcm9vZiB0aGlzIHRleHQgc28gaXQgbmVlZCBub3QgYmUgY2hhbmdlZCB0byBhY2Nv bXBsaXNoIHRoYXQ/DQoNCkJlZm9yZSBJIGFuc3dlciB5b3VyIHF1ZXN0aW9uLCBJIG1peGVkIHVw IHRoaW5ncyBhIGxpdHRsZS4gSW4gSU5GTyByZXF1ZXN0cyB3ZSB3aWxsIGFsd2F5cyBwbGFjZSB0 aGUgc3R1ZmYgaW4gYSBtdWx0aXBhcnQuIEJ1dCwgdGhlIG1haW4gcmVhc29uIGZvciB0aGF0IHdh cyBzbyB0aGUgU0lQIGxldmVsIENvbnRlbnQtRGlzcG9zaXRpb24gdmFsdWUgaXMgYWx3YXlzICdp bmZvLXBhY2thZ2UnICh3aXRoaW4gdGhlIE1JTUUgd2UgdGhlbiBhbHdheXMgdXNlIEMtRCAnYnkt cmVmZXJuY2UnKS4NCg0KUmVnYXJkaW5nIHlvdXIgcXVlc3Rpb24sIG15IGluaXRpYWwgc3VnZ2Vz dGlvbiB3YXMgbm90IHRvIHJlbW92ZSB0aGUgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnQgdG8gd3JhcCwgb25seSB0byBy ZW1vdmUgdGhlIHNlbnRlbmNlIHNheWluZyB0aGF0IHRoZSBDb250ZW50LUlEIGlzIG5vdCBkZWZp bmVkIGFzIGEgU0lQIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZC4gQnV0LCB3aGVuIHRoaW5raW5nIGFib3V0IGl0LCB0 aGVyZSByZWFsbHkgaXMgbm8gbmVlZCB0byByZXF1aXJlIHdyYXAgaW4gbm9uLUlORk8gcmVxdWVz dHMsIHNvIG1heWJlIHdlIHNob3VsZCBjb25zaWRlciByZW1vdmluZyBpdCAtIHVubGVzcyBzb21l b25lIGNvbWVzIHVwIHdpdGggYSByZWFzb24gd2h5IHdlIHNob3VsZCBtYW5kYXRlIGl0PyBJbiBy ZWFsaXR5IEkgdGhpbmsgSU5WSVRFIHJlcXVlc3RzIHdpbGwgYXQgbGVhc3QgY2FycnkgU0RQIHRv bywgc28gb25lIHdpbGwgYW55d2F5IGhhdmUgdG8gdXNlIGEgbXVsdGlwYXJ0Lg0KDQpSZWdhcmRz LA0KDQpDaHJpc3Rlcg0KDQoNCj4gLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCj4gRnJvbTog RWNyaXQgW21haWx0bzplY3JpdC1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnXSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgQWxpc3Nh IENvb3Blcg0KPiBTZW50OiAxMSBGZWJydWFyeSAyMDE3IDEzOjIzDQo+IFRvOiBSYW5kYWxsIEdl bGxlbnMgPHJnK2lldGZAcmFuZHkucGVuc2l2ZS5vcmc+DQo+IENjOiBlY3JpdEBpZXRmLm9yZw0K PiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0Vjcml0XSBJLUQgQWN0aW9uOiBkcmFmdC1pZXRmLWVjcml0LWVjYWxs LTI2LnR4dA0KPg0KPiBVbmxlc3MgdGhlcmUgYXJlIG9iamVjdGlvbnMgdG8gdGhpcyBieSBGZWIg MTUsIHdl4oCZbGwgbW92ZSBmb3J3YXJkIHdpdGggdGhlIGRvY3VtZW50IGFwcHJvdmFsLg0KPg0K PiBUaGFua3MsDQo+IEFsaXNzYQ0KPg0KPj4gT24gRmViIDEwLCAyMDE3LCBhdCAyOjMzIFBNLCBS YW5kYWxsIEdlbGxlbnMgPHJnK2lldGZAcmFuZHkucGVuc2l2ZS5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOg0KPj4NCj4+ IFRoZSBvbmx5IGNoYW5nZSBpbiB0aGlzIHVwZGF0ZSBvZiB0aGUgZUNhbGwgZHJhZnQgaXMgdG8g cmVtb3ZlIHRoZSAiK3BlciIgc3VmZml4LiAgVGhpcyB3YXMgbmVjZXNzYXJ5IGJlY2F1c2UgdGhl IGRlc2lnbmF0ZWQgZXhwZXJ0IGZvciBNSU1FIGNvbnRlbnQgdHlwZSBzdHJ1Y3R1cmVkIGNvbnRl bnQgc3VmZml4IHBvaW50ZWQgb3V0IHRoYXQgQVNOLjEgUEVSIGVuY29kaW5nIGNhbid0IGJlIHVu ZGVyc3Rvb2QgaW5kZXBlbmRlbnRseSBvZiB0aGUgY29udGVudCAodW5saWtlIFhNTCwgd2hpY2gg Y2FuIGJlIHBhcnNlZCB3aXRob3V0IHVuZGVyc3RhbmRpbmcgdGhlIGNvbnRlbnQpLiAgQXMgYSBy ZXN1bHQsIHRoZSBNSU1FIGNvbnRlbnQgdHlwZSBoYXMgY2hhbmdlZCBmcm9tIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9u L2VtZXJnZW5jeUNhbGxEYXRhLmVDYWxsLk1TRCtwZXIgdG8gYXBwbGljYXRpb24vZW1lcmdlbmN5 Q2FsbERhdGEuZUNhbGwuTVNELg0KPj4NCj4+IC0tDQo+PiBSYW5kYWxsIEdlbGxlbnMNCj4+IE9w aW5pb25zIGFyZSBwZXJzb25hbDsgICAgZmFjdHMgYXJlIHN1c3BlY3Q7ICAgIEkgc3BlYWsgZm9y IG15c2VsZiBvbmx5DQo+PiAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLSBSYW5kb21seSBzZWxlY3RlZCB0YWc6IC0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KPj4gMiArIDIgPSA1IGZvciBleHRyZW1lbHkgbGFyZ2UgdmFsdWVzIG9m IDIuDQo+Pg0KPj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X18NCj4+IEVjcml0IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPj4gRWNyaXRAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+IGh0dHBzOi8v d3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCj4NCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj4gRWNyaXQgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+ IEVjcml0QGlldGYub3JnDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8v ZWNyaXQNCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18N Cj4gRWNyaXQgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+IEVjcml0QGlldGYub3JnDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lmll dGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCj4NCg0KX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCkVjcml0IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KRWNyaXRAaWV0 Zi5vcmcNCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCg== From nobody Sun Feb 12 12:01:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E81129B13 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:01:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iEaEV1RnlOXA for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:166]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2044F129421 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id d0JGcAwmnO8Emd0KYc1SO6; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:01:06 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1486929666; bh=8WGl04ejmg7xpvXxKPF7Ih07pLjkwFjTTnXUJnSyj6g=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bHVBleoUCPar1mgeVgu7wnnOPyC0dm+Wx7WMp15LROmwruen9V4RkuSunw4KbHFB+ 2tR4GTfnBzFz70JkleW2HkfUEDsXmJfg6zuMRWIQ/zni7ObXLFXli4L4JQuDR5t2PI +SGPS+w/Z8gsDbm9Qf+XfuBXJ3L0GWBCgfawyhoZ9vsW2qSMsM2iv0CbOWhYHij8Gq av4Hc1K7MVla9tTtxPFeYPdJFd9D94I61XE3y5oTav6X6G1to5tDBfeDj/R7mZ+uHc 6j66XxUMlf7ccZRmCKgM05wmdu/Ep0MES8QnC5SRZbsxRbj9gZVH22Xh+qY2M+0wh2 798Frp5xKlU3g== Received: from [192.168.1.110] ([73.186.127.100]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id d0KXcI4cWc52ed0KYcPvlX; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:01:06 +0000 To: ecrit@ietf.org References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> From: Paul Kyzivat Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:01:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMcTgXK7iSnMxG4NOVKg3gKQhwy1sFj8qzyDgrG3fykuPzIXvGNmLe1xZ7iBryb0dbNBmjSE8vMMKxcQrz+x3nqQpJ5ad7X5Id6JjrmfwO7IrOX1bRqp YGGX7N2ZoSHs+xAt7W3JGa2KJcEuzRNVkdTojkNGplNMwcXKYNl7snaMMs/1OSqePbpMRtETEPQQmQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:01:09 -0000 On 2/12/17 2:54 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi, > >>> One small comment. >>> >>> Section 6 says: >>> >>> "An MSD or a metadata/control block is always enclosed in a multipart >>> (normally multipart/mixed) body part (even if it would otherwise be >>> the only body part in the SIP message), since as of the date of this >>> document, the use of Content-ID as a SIP header field is not defined >>> (while it is defined for use as a MIME header field)." >>> >>> draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id, which defines Content-ID as a SIP header field, has now been adopted by SIPCORE. >>> >>> So, I wonder whether we could simply remove the second part of this paragraph? I don't think we need to change >>> anything else, because I think we still want to always enclose the stuff in a multipart. >> >> Question: is there intent to remove the requirement to wrap the MSD in a multipart body once the the work in >> sipcore completes? Is it your goal to future proof this text so it need not be changed to accomplish that? > > Before I answer your question, I mixed up things a little. In INFO requests we will always place the stuff in a multipart. But, the main reason for that was so the SIP level Content-Disposition value is always 'info-package' (within the MIME we then always use C-D 'by-refernce'). > > Regarding your question, my initial suggestion was not to remove the requirement to wrap, only to remove the sentence saying that the Content-ID is not defined as a SIP header field. But, when thinking about it, there really is no need to require wrap in non-INFO requests, so maybe we should consider removing it - unless someone comes up with a reason why we should mandate it? In reality I think INVITE requests will at least carry SDP too, so one will anyway have to use a multipart. Do you want to make this draft wait for that work in sipcore? (And for implementations to support it.) It would be cleaner to remove the requirement for wrapping. But if you are in a rush it might be better not to be dependent on that further work being completed. Thanks, Paul > Regards, > > Christer > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper >> Sent: 11 February 2017 13:23 >> To: Randall Gellens >> Cc: ecrit@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt >> >> Unless there are objections to this by Feb 15, we’ll move forward with the document approval. >> >> Thanks, >> Alissa >> >>> On Feb 10, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: >>> >>> The only change in this update of the eCall draft is to remove the "+per" suffix. This was necessary because the designated expert for MIME content type structured content suffix pointed out that ASN.1 PER encoding can't be understood independently of the content (unlike XML, which can be parsed without understanding the content). As a result, the MIME content type has changed from application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD+per to application/emergencyCallData.eCall.MSD. >>> >>> -- >>> Randall Gellens >>> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >>> -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- >>> 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ecrit mailing list >>> Ecrit@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > From nobody Sun Feb 12 12:18:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64231129A44 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:18:08 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qbmf64TQHmLF for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4349F129AD3 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:10:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:14:41 -0800 To: Paul Kyzivat , ecrit@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:18:08 -0000 At 2:19 PM -0500 2/12/17, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > Question: is there intent to remove the requirement to wrap the MSD > in a multipart body once the the work in sipcore completes? Is it > your goal to future proof this text so it need not be changed to > accomplish that? I think there is not much actual benefit to removing the requirement, while there is some downside: it would make the draft dependent on the content-id draft, and it would require further changes in other SDO work (e.g., 3GPP) that includes the requirement. So I'd suggest we leave it is. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The average man does not know what to do with his life, yet wants another one which will last forever. --Anatole France From nobody Sun Feb 12 13:16:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B516912941D for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:16:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WhpkYtGjtyW7 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:16:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED69C128BA2 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:16:27 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b99fe70000007389-d9-58a0d0a99f81 Received: from ESESSHC010.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.48]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 7A.38.29577.9A0D0A85; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:16:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.76]) by ESESSHC010.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.48]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:16:25 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: Paul Kyzivat , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt Thread-Index: AQHSg8bkGkC1701BEkqt8epwvJin6qFikL4AgAEJNYCAAZuvAIAAe/yAgAAX2iD///OygIAAJMig Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:16:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8A8D@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrHLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7ge6qCwsiDM4s4bZoXPSU1eLBj142 ByaPyY/nMHosWfKTKYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj36FP7AVb9Ct+nVvP2MA4Q6+LkZNDQsBE 4tHvLsYuRi4OIYF1jBIrOy5COYsZJZpOrmXpYuTgYBOwkOj+pw3SICLgJ3H3zhU2EFtYwE7i 4aUVTBBxe4kr539D2VES0578ZAexWQRUJfpOTgKL8wr4ShzsecMIYgsJzGOW+DMlGMTmBOpd POEYK4jNKCAm8f3UGrB6ZgFxiVtP5jNBHCogsWTPeWYIW1Ti5eN/rBC2ksSK7ZcYQc5kFtCU WL9LH6JVUWJK90N2iLWCEidnPmGZwCgyC8nUWQgds5B0zELSsYCRZRWjaHFqcVJuupGRXmpR ZnJxcX6eXl5qySZGYCwc3PLbYAfjy+eOhxgFOBiVeHg3bFgQIcSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEV/A4 UIg3JbGyKrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjiv2cr74UIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZJg5OqQbGRbfnLztV 2+30uDlydZbxjpnB26oVmZbw7W/j6VtRvCJqArfZ6usH1jjIhQtlzlzhyD/984v7mzj/HNyY ODco/XnGatsP7L12Mf/k3jCf+HnfQSnWOml263Pd1sfW8e3rdTycI688khFljmZwfdNs3uD6 4RfbnmiHDb5B04KL4vp8by2N925SYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAIYPBWIECAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:16:30 -0000 SGksDQoNCj4+Pj4gT25lIHNtYWxsIGNvbW1lbnQuDQo+Pj4+DQo+Pj4+IFNlY3Rpb24gNiBzYXlz Og0KPj4+Pg0KPj4+PiAgICAiQW4gTVNEIG9yIGEgbWV0YWRhdGEvY29udHJvbCBibG9jayBpcyBh bHdheXMgZW5jbG9zZWQgaW4gYSBtdWx0aXBhcnQNCj4+Pj4gICAgKG5vcm1hbGx5IG11bHRpcGFy dC9taXhlZCkgYm9keSBwYXJ0IChldmVuIGlmIGl0IHdvdWxkIG90aGVyd2lzZSBiZQ0KPj4+PiAg ICB0aGUgb25seSBib2R5IHBhcnQgaW4gdGhlIFNJUCBtZXNzYWdlKSwgc2luY2UgYXMgb2YgdGhl IGRhdGUgb2YgdGhpcw0KPj4+PiAgICBkb2N1bWVudCwgdGhlIHVzZSBvZiBDb250ZW50LUlEIGFz IGEgU0lQIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZCBpcyBub3QgZGVmaW5lZA0KPj4+PiAgICAod2hpbGUgaXQgaXMg ZGVmaW5lZCBmb3IgdXNlIGFzIGEgTUlNRSBoZWFkZXIgZmllbGQpLiINCj4+Pj4NCj4+Pj4gZHJh ZnQtaWV0Zi1zaXBjb3JlLWNvbnRlbnQtaWQsIHdoaWNoIGRlZmluZXMgQ29udGVudC1JRCBhcyBh IFNJUCBoZWFkZXIgZmllbGQsIGhhcyBub3cgYmVlbiBhZG9wdGVkIGJ5IFNJUENPUkUuDQo+Pj4+ DQo+Pj4+IFNvLCBJIHdvbmRlciB3aGV0aGVyIHdlIGNvdWxkIHNpbXBseSByZW1vdmUgdGhlIHNl Y29uZCBwYXJ0IG9mIHRoaXMgDQo+Pj4+IHBhcmFncmFwaD8gSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayB3ZSBuZWVk IHRvIGNoYW5nZSBhbnl0aGluZyBlbHNlLCBiZWNhdXNlIEkgdGhpbmsgd2Ugc3RpbGwgd2FudCB0 byBhbHdheXMgZW5jbG9zZSB0aGUgc3R1ZmYgaW4gYSBtdWx0aXBhcnQuDQo+Pj4NCj4+PiBRdWVz dGlvbjogaXMgdGhlcmUgaW50ZW50IHRvIHJlbW92ZSB0aGUgcmVxdWlyZW1lbnQgdG8gd3JhcCB0 aGUgTVNEIA0KPj4+IGluIGEgbXVsdGlwYXJ0IGJvZHkgb25jZSB0aGUgdGhlIHdvcmsgaW4gc2lw Y29yZSBjb21wbGV0ZXM/IElzIGl0IHlvdXIgZ29hbCB0byBmdXR1cmUgcHJvb2YgdGhpcyB0ZXh0 IHNvIGl0IG5lZWQgbm90IGJlIGNoYW5nZWQgdG8gYWNjb21wbGlzaCB0aGF0Pw0KPj4NCj4+IEJl Zm9yZSBJIGFuc3dlciB5b3VyIHF1ZXN0aW9uLCBJIG1peGVkIHVwIHRoaW5ncyBhIGxpdHRsZS4g SW4gSU5GTyByZXF1ZXN0cyB3ZSB3aWxsIGFsd2F5cyBwbGFjZSB0aGUgc3R1ZmYgaW4gYSBtdWx0 aXBhcnQuIEJ1dCwgdGhlIA0KPj4gbWFpbiByZWFzb24gZm9yIHRoYXQgd2FzIHNvIHRoZSBTSVAg bGV2ZWwgQ29udGVudC1EaXNwb3NpdGlvbiB2YWx1ZSBpcyBhbHdheXMgJ2luZm8tcGFja2FnZScg KHdpdGhpbiB0aGUgTUlNRSB3ZSB0aGVuIGFsd2F5cyB1c2UgQy1EICdieS1yZWZlcm5jZScpLg0K Pj4NCj4+IFJlZ2FyZGluZyB5b3VyIHF1ZXN0aW9uLCBteSBpbml0aWFsIHN1Z2dlc3Rpb24gd2Fz IG5vdCB0byByZW1vdmUgdGhlIHJlcXVpcmVtZW50IHRvIHdyYXAsIG9ubHkgdG8gcmVtb3ZlIHRo ZSBzZW50ZW5jZSBzYXlpbmcgDQo+PiB0aGF0IHRoZSBDb250ZW50LUlEIGlzIG5vdCBkZWZpbmVk IGFzIGEgU0lQIGhlYWRlciBmaWVsZC4gQnV0LCB3aGVuIHRoaW5raW5nIGFib3V0IGl0LCB0aGVy ZSByZWFsbHkgaXMgbm8gbmVlZCB0byByZXF1aXJlIHdyYXAgaW4gbm9uLUlORk8gDQo+PiByZXF1 ZXN0cywgc28gbWF5YmUgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIGNvbnNpZGVyIHJlbW92aW5nIGl0IC0gdW5sZXNzIHNv bWVvbmUgY29tZXMgdXAgd2l0aCBhIHJlYXNvbiB3aHkgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIG1hbmRhdGUgaXQ/IElu IHJlYWxpdHkgSSB0aGluayANCj4+IElOVklURSByZXF1ZXN0cyB3aWxsIGF0IGxlYXN0IGNhcnJ5 IFNEUCB0b28sIHNvIG9uZSB3aWxsIGFueXdheSBoYXZlIHRvIHVzZSBhIG11bHRpcGFydC4NCj4N Cj4gRG8geW91IHdhbnQgdG8gbWFrZSB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IHdhaXQgZm9yIHRoYXQgd29yayBpbiBz aXBjb3JlPyAoQW5kIGZvciBpbXBsZW1lbnRhdGlvbnMgdG8gc3VwcG9ydCBpdC4pDQo+DQo+IEl0 IHdvdWxkIGJlIGNsZWFuZXIgdG8gcmVtb3ZlIHRoZSByZXF1aXJlbWVudCBmb3Igd3JhcHBpbmcu IEJ1dCBpZiB5b3UgYXJlIGluIGEgcnVzaCBpdCBtaWdodCBiZSBiZXR0ZXIgbm90IHRvIGJlIGRl cGVuZGVudCBvbiB0aGF0IGZ1cnRoZXIgd29yayBiZWluZyBjb21wbGV0ZWQuDQoNCkV2ZW4gdGhv dWdoIGl0IHdvdWxkIHRha2UgYSBsaXR0bGUgbG9uZ2VyIGJlZm9yZSB0aGUgUkZDIGlzIHB1Ymxp c2hlZCwgdGhlIGVjYWxsIGRyYWZ0IHdvdWxkIHN0aWxsIGJlIHN0YWJsZSwgYW5kIEkgZG9uJ3Qg c2VlIGFueSBtYWpvciBpc3N1ZXMgd2l0aCB0aGUgQ29udGVudC1JRCBkcmFmdCBlaXRoZXIuIFRo ZSBkaXNjdXNzaW9ucyBoYXZlIGJlZW4gbW9yZSBwaGlsb3NvcGhpY2FsIHRoYW4gdGVjaG5pY2Fs Lg0KDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KDQpDaHJpc3Rlcg0KDQoNCj4+IC0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0t LS0tDQo+PiBGcm9tOiBFY3JpdCBbbWFpbHRvOmVjcml0LWJvdW5jZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmddIE9uIEJl aGFsZiBPZiBBbGlzc2EgDQo+PiBDb29wZXINCj4+IFNlbnQ6IDExIEZlYnJ1YXJ5IDIwMTcgMTM6 MjMNCj4+IFRvOiBSYW5kYWxsIEdlbGxlbnMgPHJnK2lldGZAcmFuZHkucGVuc2l2ZS5vcmc+DQo+ PiBDYzogZWNyaXRAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+IFN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBbRWNyaXRdIEktRCBBY3Rpb246 IGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtZWNyaXQtZWNhbGwtMjYudHh0DQo+Pg0KPj4gVW5sZXNzIHRoZXJlIGFyZSBv YmplY3Rpb25zIHRvIHRoaXMgYnkgRmViIDE1LCB3ZeKAmWxsIG1vdmUgZm9yd2FyZCB3aXRoIHRo ZSBkb2N1bWVudCBhcHByb3ZhbC4NCj4+DQo+PiBUaGFua3MsDQo+PiBBbGlzc2ENCj4+DQo+Pj4g T24gRmViIDEwLCAyMDE3LCBhdCAyOjMzIFBNLCBSYW5kYWxsIEdlbGxlbnMgPHJnK2lldGZAcmFu ZHkucGVuc2l2ZS5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOg0KPj4+DQo+Pj4gVGhlIG9ubHkgY2hhbmdlIGluIHRoaXMg dXBkYXRlIG9mIHRoZSBlQ2FsbCBkcmFmdCBpcyB0byByZW1vdmUgdGhlICIrcGVyIiBzdWZmaXgu ICBUaGlzIHdhcyBuZWNlc3NhcnkgYmVjYXVzZSB0aGUgZGVzaWduYXRlZCBleHBlcnQgZm9yIE1J TUUgY29udGVudCB0eXBlIHN0cnVjdHVyZWQgY29udGVudCBzdWZmaXggcG9pbnRlZCBvdXQgdGhh dCBBU04uMSBQRVIgZW5jb2RpbmcgY2FuJ3QgYmUgdW5kZXJzdG9vZCBpbmRlcGVuZGVudGx5IG9m IHRoZSBjb250ZW50ICh1bmxpa2UgWE1MLCB3aGljaCBjYW4gYmUgcGFyc2VkIHdpdGhvdXQgdW5k ZXJzdGFuZGluZyB0aGUgY29udGVudCkuICBBcyBhIHJlc3VsdCwgdGhlIE1JTUUgY29udGVudCB0 eXBlIGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIGZyb20gYXBwbGljYXRpb24vZW1lcmdlbmN5Q2FsbERhdGEuZUNhbGwu TVNEK3BlciB0byBhcHBsaWNhdGlvbi9lbWVyZ2VuY3lDYWxsRGF0YS5lQ2FsbC5NU0QuDQo+Pj4N Cj4+PiAtLQ0KPj4+IFJhbmRhbGwgR2VsbGVucw0KPj4+IE9waW5pb25zIGFyZSBwZXJzb25hbDsg ICAgZmFjdHMgYXJlIHN1c3BlY3Q7ICAgIEkgc3BlYWsgZm9yIG15c2VsZiBvbmx5DQo+Pj4gLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0gUmFuZG9tbHkgc2VsZWN0ZWQgdGFnOiAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCj4+PiAy ICsgMiA9IDUgZm9yIGV4dHJlbWVseSBsYXJnZSB2YWx1ZXMgb2YgMi4NCj4+Pg0KPj4+IF9fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+Pj4gRWNyaXQgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0DQo+Pj4gRWNyaXRAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+PiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9t YWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2Vjcml0DQo+Pg0KPj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj4+IEVjcml0IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPj4gRWNyaXRAaWV0 Zi5vcmcNCj4+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZWNyaXQNCj4+ IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+PiBFY3Jp dCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4+IEVjcml0QGlldGYub3JnDQo+PiBodHRwczovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9y Zy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2Vjcml0DQo+Pg0KPg0KPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiBFY3JpdCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4gRWNyaXRA aWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4gaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lY3JpdA0K PiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KPiBFY3Jp dCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4gRWNyaXRAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4gaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcv bWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lY3JpdA0KPg0KDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KRWNyaXQgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQpFY3JpdEBpZXRmLm9yZw0K aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lY3JpdA0K From nobody Sun Feb 12 13:19:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4743112941D for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:19:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TusU-GQazfs6 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04153128BA2 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:19:47 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b83ff70000007389-da-58a0d17020c0 Received: from ESESSHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.27]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id ED.58.29577.071D0A85; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:19:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.76]) by ESESSHC003.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.27]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:18:50 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: Randall Gellens , Paul Kyzivat , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt Thread-Index: AQHSg8bkGkC1701BEkqt8epwvJin6qFikL4AgAEJNYCAAZuvAIAAe/yAgAAPWYCAACISIA== Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8AB5@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7tG7RxQURBgfXiFk0LnrKavHgRy+b xffnXYwOzB6TH89h9Fiy5CeTx9Y7j1kCmKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Ms7c2shWsIStYsmqOYwN jN9Yuhg5OSQETCT+LZ7H1MXIxSEksI5R4t/1OWAJIYHFjBJLtot3MXJwsAlYSHT/0wYJiwjU Shy72sUKYgsL2Ek8vLSCCSJuL3Hl/G8oO0zi3c4dYDaLgKpE5xSIXbwCvhKta78wQ+w6zyTR s/4zWIIT6Ij5W48zg9iMAmIS30+tAWtmFhCXuPVkPhPEoQISS/acZ4awRSVePv7HCmErSazY fokRol5HYsHuT2wQtrbEsoWvmSEWC0qcnPmEZQKjyCwkY2chaZmFpGUWkpYFjCyrGEWLU4uT ctONjPRSizKTi4vz8/TyUks2MQJj5OCW3wY7GF8+dzzEKMDBqMTDu2HDgggh1sSy4srcQ4wS HMxKIryCx4FCvCmJlVWpRfnxRaU5qcWHGKU5WJTEec1W3g8XEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2CyTJxcEo1 MIYxBh7esnkl76cDfW9Yv1ZOWzIx7L2JUPzGTLHlSl/dNLjYxXyvaH7hlIy+mnNQ8qTmqQO2 n5e+tl51//m5wOWR5o7v3k54oHHFNUQh6+dVudvyK85FSS5Rf3vumZclu9JqwUk6DNfYf05b V7v0dGr63IVFF2/lbhHgu+HDUacjN0N0Z3UlxzUlluKMREMt5qLiRAB6GS4+jQIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:19:49 -0000 Hi, >> Question: is there intent to remove the requirement to wrap the MSD=20 >> in a multipart body once the the work in sipcore completes? Is it your=20 >> goal to future proof this text so it need not be changed to accomplish=20 >> that? > > I think there is not much actual benefit to removing the requirement, whi= le there is some downside: it would make the draft dependent=20 > on the content-id draft, and it would require further changes in other SD= O work (e.g., 3GPP) that includes the requirement. So I'd suggest we leave= it is. I don't think it would require any major changes in other SDOs, at least no= t in 3GPP. I am pretty confident the Content-ID draft will anyway be adopted by 3GPP, = no matter whether it's needed by ecall or not. Regards, Christer From nobody Sun Feb 12 14:42:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472DB129449 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:42:31 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: <6dwwNBUFHuVW> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6dwwNBUFHuVW for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F61129430 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:34:52 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8AB5@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8AB5@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:42:25 -0800 To: Christer Holmberg , Randall Gellens , Paul Kyzivat , "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:42:31 -0000 At 9:18 PM +0000 2/12/17, Christer Holmberg wrote: > >> Question: is there intent to remove the requirement to wrap the MSD >>> in a multipart body once the the work in sipcore completes? Is it your >>> goal to future proof this text so it need not be changed to accomplish >>> that? >> >> I think there is not much actual benefit to removing the >> requirement, while there is some downside: it would make the draft >> dependent >> on the content-id draft, and it would require further changes in >> other SDO work (e.g., 3GPP) that includes the requirement. So I'd >> suggest we leave it is. > > I don't think it would require any major changes in other SDOs, at > least not in 3GPP. Of course it only requires minor changes, not major ones. > I am pretty confident the Content-ID draft will anyway be adopted > by 3GPP, no matter whether it's needed by ecall or not. That's good, of course, although I don't see it as a significant reason to change the draft. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Few ideas are really bad. Most are either pre- or post-mature. --Jon Postel From nobody Sun Feb 12 20:11:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA49129544 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:11:16 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y5eRik3XrNYo for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9112953A for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:03:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <148674933617.29176.14741885466396995635.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8145@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B4BFF8957@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:10:27 -0800 To: Christer Holmberg , Paul Kyzivat , "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-26.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 04:11:16 -0000 At 7:54 PM +0000 2/12/17, Christer Holmberg wrote: > In INFO requests we will always place the stuff in a multipart. > But, the main reason for that was so the SIP level > Content-Disposition value is always 'info-package' (within the MIME > we then always use C-D 'by-refernce'). > > Regarding your question, my initial suggestion was not to remove > the requirement to wrap, only to remove the sentence saying that > the Content-ID is not defined as a SIP header field. But, when > thinking about it, there really is no need to require wrap in > non-INFO requests, so maybe we should consider removing it - unless > someone comes up with a reason why we should mandate it? In reality > I think INVITE requests will at least carry SDP too, so one will > anyway have to use a multipart. As you say, in reality the initial INVITE will be multipart anyway, so we may as well not make the eCall draft depend on the sipcore draft. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Idiot: A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. --Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" From nobody Tue Feb 14 16:49:33 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D708112953B; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:49:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.43.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148711977187.9998.15794217421229414519.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:49:31 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:49:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies of the IETF. Title : Next-Generation Pan-European eCall Authors : Randall Gellens Hannes Tschofenig Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2017-02-14 Abstract: This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services mechanisms to support the next generation of the pan European in- vehicle emergency call service defined under the eSafety initiative of the European Commission (generally referred to as "eCall"). eCall is a standardized and mandated system for a special form of emergency calls placed by vehicles, providing real-time communications and an integrated set of related data. This document also registers MIME media types and an Emergency Call Additional Data Block for the eCall vehicle data and metadata/control data, and an INFO package to enable carrying this data in SIP INFO requests. Although this specification is designed to meet the requirements of European next-generation eCall, it is specified generically such that the technology can be re-used or extended to suit requirements across jurisdictions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Feb 14 16:52:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B5312945D for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:52:39 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bJbHkkBiNrvP for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF751297C9 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:44:39 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <148711977187.9998.15794217421229414519.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <148711977187.9998.15794217421229414519.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:52:35 -0800 To: ecrit@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 00:52:39 -0000 This version addresses Christer's suggestion of removing the text that says Content-ID is not defined as a SIP header field. No other changes. At 4:49 PM -0800 2/14/17, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with > Internet Technologies of the IETF. > > Title : Next-Generation Pan-European eCall > Authors : Randall Gellens > Hannes Tschofenig > Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt > Pages : 46 > Date : 2017-02-14 > > Abstract: > This document describes how to use IP-based emergency services > mechanisms to support the next generation of the pan European in- > vehicle emergency call service defined under the eSafety initiative > of the European Commission (generally referred to as "eCall"). eCall > is a standardized and mandated system for a special form of emergency > calls placed by vehicles, providing real-time communications and an > integrated set of related data. > > This document also registers MIME media types and an Emergency Call > Additional Data Block for the eCall vehicle data and metadata/control > data, and an INFO package to enable carrying this data in SIP INFO > requests. > > Although this specification is designed to meet the requirements of > European next-generation eCall, it is specified generically such that > the technology can be re-used or extended to suit requirements across > jurisdictions. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Freddie Laker May be at peace with his Maker. But he is persona non grata With IATA. --HRH Duke of Edinburgh From nobody Thu Feb 16 05:31:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietf.org Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BD21299D7; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:31:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.43.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148725189577.15929.3087482133485710422.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:31:35 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: Allison Mankin , ecrit-chairs@ietf.org, The IESG , ecrit@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Ecrit] Protocol Action: 'Next-Generation Pan-European eCall' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt) X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 13:31:36 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Next-Generation Pan-European eCall' (draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall-27.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alexey Melnikov, Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall/ Technical Summary draft-ietf-ecrit-ecall specifies IETF mechanisms to support next-generation pan-European eCall (European vehicle-initiated emergency calls). It also provides the basis for next-generation vehicle-initiated emergency calls in other regions. The document also registers MIME media types and an INFO package. Multiple SDOs (including 3GPP, 3GPP2, CEN, NENA, and others) have references to this document and are waiting for an RFC number. Working Group Summary The document was reviewed by a large number of people during its development. Towards the end it received a large number of comments from a small number of people, and their comments were carefully considered, and resolved with good (mostly not rough) consensus. Multiple WG participants also participate in the SDOs intending to use this document and have made sure the document meets the needs of those SDOs. Document Quality There are not presently implementations of the protocol, but the SDOs charged with overall next-generation pan-European emergency call have many vendors interested in implementation on a quick timetable. Media types registered by this document received expert review on the mediatypes mailing list. The expertise of Ned Freed, in particular, was extremely helpful in solving an issue that arose, in a way that was compatible with a predecessor document, RFC 7852. The media type discussion can be found in the thread that begins with: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/media-types/current/msg00835.html Other types of formal expert review were not required. Personnel Allison Mankin is the Document Shepherd. Alissa Cooper is the Responsible Area Director