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From: Az Mankin <azmankin@gmail.com>
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Hi, Peter,

Thanks for the sanity check.  Looking forward to your closer review!

Roger and Allison

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
wrote:

> On 3/23/18 5:00 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
> > Dear ECRIT WG,
> >
> > The final three documents that have already been developed in ECRIT are
> > about to start their WGLC (look for separate thread for each one).
> >
> > We chairs were waiting for the editors to resolve some schema issues,
> > and these have been resolved based on review by Peter St. Andre (to
> > whom, thanks).
>
> I performed a "sanity check" of the XML schemas but will take an even
> closer look during WGLC.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Hi, Peter,<br><br></div>Thanks for the sanity ch=
eck.=C2=A0 Looking forward to your closer review!<br><br></div>Roger and Al=
lison<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com" target=3D"_blank">stpeter@mozilla.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 3=
/23/18 5:00 AM, Az Mankin wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear ECRIT WG,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The final three documents that have already been developed in ECRIT ar=
e<br>
&gt; about to start their WGLC (look for separate thread for each one).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We chairs were waiting for the editors to resolve some schema issues,<=
br>
&gt; and these have been resolved based on review by Peter St. Andre (to<br=
>
&gt; whom, thanks).<br>
<br>
</span>I performed a &quot;sanity check&quot; of the XML schemas but will t=
ake an even<br>
closer look during WGLC.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Peter<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Data-Only Emergency Calls
        Authors         : Brian Rosen
                          Henning Schulzrinne
                          Hannes Tschofenig
                          Randall Gellens
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ecrit-data-only-ea-15.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2018-04-23

Abstract:
   RFC 6443 'Framework for Emergency Calling Using Internet Multimedia'
   describes how devices use the Internet to place emergency calls and
   how Public Safety Answering Points (PSAPs) handle Internet multimedia
   emergency calls natively.  The exchange of multimedia traffic for
   emergency services involves a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
   session establishment starting with a SIP INVITE that negotiates
   various parameters for that session.

   In some cases, however, the transmission of application data is all
   that is needed.  Examples of such environments include alerts issued
   by a temperature sensor, burglar alarm, or chemical spill sensor.
   Often these alerts are conveyed as one-shot data transmissions.
   These type of interactions are called 'data-only emergency calls'.
   This document describes a container for the data based on the Common
   Alerting Protocol (CAP) and its transmission using the SIP MESSAGE
   transaction.


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I uploaded -15, which contains a few editorial improvements.

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On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
> This starts WGLC for draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-05,**A LoST
> extension to return complete and similar location info
>=20
> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to
> this mailing list before April 8.

Sorry about the slow response. Here is some feedback on the schema (each
comment is prefaced by "^^^").

###

<?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
           xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost-rli1"
           targetNamespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost-rli1"
           elementFormDefault=3D"qualified">
     <!-- Import base Lost -->
     <xs:import namespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1"/>

^^^ We import this for the <location/> element, right? That should be
prefaced appropriate below...

<!-- extend the extensionPoint of commonRequestPattern of findService to
include:  -->

^^^ Although we can say where an extension is intended to go, AFAIK
there's no way in XML schema to restrict the use of an extension to a
particular place in a structure defined by another schema.

      <xs:atttribute name=3D"asOf" type=3D"xs:dateTime" minOccurs=3D"0"/>=


^^^ As Dan mentioned, this might have been copied from another schema.

      <xs:attribute name=3D"returnAdditionalLocation" minOccurs=3D"0">
       <xs:simpleType>
          <xs:restriction base=3D"xs:token">
            <xs:enumeration value=3D"none"/>
            <xs:enumeration value=3D"similar"/>
            <xs:enumeration value=3D"complete"/>
            <xs:enumeration value=3D"any"/>
          </xs:restriction>
        </xs:simpleType>
      </xs:attribute>

<!-- extend the extensionPoint of commonResponsePattern of
findServiceReponse to include -->
 <xs:group ref=3D"similarLocation"/>
        <xs:group ref=3D"completeLocation"/>
<!-- where -->
<xs:group name=3D"similarLocation">
    <xs:sequence xmlns:base=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1">

^^^ add the imported namespace here

      <xs:element ref=3D"base:location" maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/>

^^^ add the namespace preface

      <xs:any namespace=3D"##other" processContents=3D"lax"
          minOccurs=3D"0" maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/>
    </xs:sequence>
  </xs:group>

<xs:group name=3D"completeLocation">
    <xs:sequence xmlns:base=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1">
      <xs:element ref=3D"base:location" maxOccurs=3D"1"/>

^^^ as above

      <xs:any namespace=3D"##other" processContents=3D"lax"
          minOccurs=3D"0" maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/>
    </xs:sequence>
  </xs:group>
</xs:schema>

###

Because the definitions of the similarLocation and completeLocation
groups are the same, we could define this in a less verbose way, but
what we have is OK.

Peter



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One more note...

On 4/24/18 4:50 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
>> This starts WGLC for draft-ietf-ecrit-similar-location-05,**A LoST
>> extension to return complete and similar location info
>>
>> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to=

>> this mailing list before April 8.
>=20
> Sorry about the slow response. Here is some feedback on the schema (eac=
h
> comment is prefaced by "^^^").
>=20
> ###
>=20
> <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>
> <xs:schema xmlns:xs=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
>            xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost-rli1"
>            targetNamespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost-rli1"
>            elementFormDefault=3D"qualified">
>      <!-- Import base Lost -->
>      <xs:import namespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1"/>
>=20
> ^^^ We import this for the <location/> element, right? That should be
> prefaced appropriate below...
>=20
> <!-- extend the extensionPoint of commonRequestPattern of findService t=
o
> include:  -->
>=20
> ^^^ Although we can say where an extension is intended to go, AFAIK
> there's no way in XML schema to restrict the use of an extension to a
> particular place in a structure defined by another schema.
>=20
>       <xs:atttribute name=3D"asOf" type=3D"xs:dateTime" minOccurs=3D"0"=
/>
>=20
> ^^^ As Dan mentioned, this might have been copied from another schema.
>=20
>       <xs:attribute name=3D"returnAdditionalLocation" minOccurs=3D"0">
>        <xs:simpleType>
>           <xs:restriction base=3D"xs:token">
>             <xs:enumeration value=3D"none"/>
>             <xs:enumeration value=3D"similar"/>
>             <xs:enumeration value=3D"complete"/>
>             <xs:enumeration value=3D"any"/>
>           </xs:restriction>
>         </xs:simpleType>
>       </xs:attribute>
>=20
> <!-- extend the extensionPoint of commonResponsePattern of
> findServiceReponse to include -->
>  <xs:group ref=3D"similarLocation"/>
>         <xs:group ref=3D"completeLocation"/>
> <!-- where -->
> <xs:group name=3D"similarLocation">
>     <xs:sequence xmlns:base=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:lost1">
>=20
> ^^^ add the imported namespace here

^^^ Actually that could go in the xs:schema element at the very top.

Peter


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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] WGLC for draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes - end date April 8
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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
To: ecrit@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] WGLC for draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes - end date
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On 3/25/18 2:49 AM, Az Mankin wrote:
>=20
> This starts WGLC for=C2=A0 draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-planned-changes-01,
> Validation of Locations Around a Planned Change
>=20
> Please send both comments and messages that you support advancement to
> this mailing list before April 8.

Again, thanks for your patience with my tardy reply. I took another look
at the schema. There are a few details I still want to check, but
overall it seems to be in good shape.

However, this is not right:

   <xs:attributeGroup name=3D"anyElement">
     <xs:annotation>
       <xs:documentation>
         A wildcard pattern for including any element
         from any other namespace.
       </xs:documentation>
     </xs:annotation>
     <xs:anyAttribute processContents=3D"skip"/>
   </xs:attributeGroup>

Presumably that should define something about attributes, not elements
(it seems to have been copied from the <xs:group name=3D"anyElement">
definition).

Peter



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