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I'd like to review the draft draft-obispo-epp-idn and give some comments.

Regards,
Linlin


> From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck at verisign.com>
> To: "eppext at ietf.org" <eppext at ietf.org>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:55:38 +0000
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> I'd like to propose that we formally adopt all of the documents described
in our charter. They are:

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/

> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/

> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/

> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/

> Scott


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Your quiet chairs starting off the new year by finally speaking up.

Our charter was approved last year.  It might seem so long ago but it was
just a month ago.

We have two administrative actions to get past and then we should begin our
review process.

The first thing is we do have to formally accept what documents we want to
be working group documents.  Scott Hollenbeck posted the list from the
charter before the end of the year holidays, which we'll repeat here.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/

Since they were listed in our charter which we have all reviewed we don't
imagine there will be any objection but for completeness we'll follow this
message with a separate message asking for objections.

In addition, we do need to decide if we want to have a working group
meeting in London.  The request has to be put in by this Friday so time is
short.

We're inclined to ask for meeting slot.  We are just getting started and it
is unlikely we will be done by March so the opportunity to review or close
on outstanding actions in a face to face environment should be helpful.
We'll follow this message with a separate message asking about the meeting
situation.

Finally, one person has already promised to give review comments for one of
the documents above:  Linlin for draft-obispo-epp-idn.  We are going to
have to take note of how many people have reviewed a document in order to
move it forward so it would be helpful if folks would indicate if they plan
to review a document in detail.  Even better would be to send a note saying
you have read it with your comments or saying it's good to go if that's the
case.

Thanks to everyone for your patience thus far.  Watch for the follow up
messages coming next.

Jim and Antoin

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Your quiet chairs start=
ing off the new year by finally speaking up.<br><br>Our charter was approve=
d last year.=C2=A0 It might seem so long ago but it was just a month ago.<b=
r><br>
</div>We have two administrative actions to get past and then we should beg=
in our review process.<br><br>The first thing is we do have to formally acc=
ept what documents we want to be working group documents.=C2=A0 Scott Holle=
nbeck posted the list from the charter before the end of the year holidays,=
 which we&#39;ll repeat here.<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-re=
g/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp=
-ext-reg/</a><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/</a><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/</a><br>
<br>
</div>Since they were listed in our charter which we have all reviewed we d=
on&#39;t imagine there will be any objection but for completeness we&#39;ll=
 follow this message with a separate message asking for objections.<br>
<br></div>In addition, we do need to decide if we want to have a working gr=
oup meeting in London.=C2=A0 The request has to be put in by this Friday so=
 time is short.<br><br></div>We&#39;re inclined to ask for meeting slot.=C2=
=A0 We are just getting started and it is unlikely we will be done by March=
 so the opportunity to review or close on outstanding actions in a face to =
face environment should be helpful.=C2=A0 We&#39;ll follow this message wit=
h a separate message asking about the meeting situation.<br>
<br></div>Finally, one person has already promised to give review comments =
for one of the documents above:=C2=A0 Linlin for draft-obispo-epp-idn.=C2=
=A0 We are going to have to take note of how many people have reviewed a do=
cument in order to move it forward so it would be helpful if folks would in=
dicate if they plan to review a document in detail.=C2=A0 Even better would=
 be to send a note saying you have read it with your comments or saying it&=
#39;s good to go if that&#39;s the case.<br>
<br></div>Thanks to everyone for your patience thus far.=C2=A0 Watch for th=
e follow up messages coming next.<br><br></div>Jim and Antoin<br><br><div><=
div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to start by
adopting them as a group.  In the future we should expect to make a
decision on each document separately.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/

Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working
group document?  If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all why.

We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in this
case.  We have all known about these documents for some time so it seems
reasonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews takes us.

If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywhere
Wednesday with either a "+1" to accept all documents or a message noting
your objection that would be great!

Thanks!

Jim and Antoin

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Since these documents were included in the charter we&#39;=
re going to start by adopting them as a group.=C2=A0 In the future we shoul=
d expect to make a decision on each document separately.<br><div><br><a hre=
f=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/<=
/a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/</a><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/</a><br>
<br></div><div>Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as=
 a working group document?=C2=A0 If you, now is the time to speak up and te=
ll us all why.<br><br></div><div>We&#39;d like to suggest a relatively shor=
t time period for objections in this case.=C2=A0 We have all known about th=
ese documents for some time so it seems reasonable to just get started and =
see where the detailed reviews takes us.<br>
<br></div><div>If folks would please respond to the list by close of busine=
ss everywhere Wednesday with either a &quot;+1&quot; to accept all document=
s or a message noting your objection that would be great!<br><br></div>
<div>Thanks!<br><br>Jim and Antoin<br><br></div></div>

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As previously noted, we have until this Friday to decide if we want a
meeting slot during the London IETF.

We're inclined to ask for a meeting slot but folks should feel free to
disagree.

It's not hard to imagine that with 5 documents we could use an opportunity
to discuss any review issues.  Of course, we could also choose to do all
our work on the mailing list rather than using a meeting slot.

If we do ask for a slot the next question is do we want a short slot of 1
hour or do we want to ask for a more typical "2 hour" slot?

Finally, the most critical thing to care about if we do ask for a slot is
what other meetings do we want to avoid?  We have to list the conflicts we
care about.

So, if folks would please respond to this message on the list with one of
the following options that would be great!


+1 - let's have a meeting - please indicate if you think it should be 1
hour or 2 hours, and please indicate what other meetings you want to avoid.

-1 - let's not have a physical meeting - any other comment you can make in
support of this would be helpful.



Thanks!

Jim and Antoin

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>As previously noted, we=
 have until this Friday to decide if we want a meeting slot during the Lond=
on IETF.<br><br></div>We&#39;re inclined to ask for a meeting slot but folk=
s should feel free to disagree.<br>
<br></div><div>It&#39;s not hard to imagine that with 5 documents we could =
use an opportunity to discuss any review issues.=C2=A0 Of course, we could =
also choose to do all our work on the mailing list rather than using a meet=
ing slot.<br>
</div><div><br></div>If we do ask for a slot the next question is do we wan=
t a short slot of 1 hour or do we want to ask for a more typical &quot;2 ho=
ur&quot; slot?<br><br></div>Finally, the most critical thing to care about =
if we do ask for a slot is what other meetings do we want to avoid?=C2=A0 W=
e have to list the conflicts we care about.<br>
<br></div>So, if folks would please respond to this message on the list wit=
h one of the following options that would be great!<br><br><br></div>+1 - l=
et&#39;s have a meeting - please indicate if you think it should be 1 hour =
or 2 hours, and please indicate what other meetings you want to avoid.<br>
<br></div>-1 - let&#39;s not have a physical meeting - any other comment yo=
u can make in support of this would be helpful.<br><br><br><br></div><div>T=
hanks!<br><br>Jim and Antoin<br><br></div><div><div><br></div></div></div>

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+1 on adopting all of the documents.

Scott

On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "James Galvin" <galvin@elistx.com<mailto:galvi=
n@elistx.com>> wrote:

Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to start by =
adopting them as a group.  In the future we should expect to make a decisio=
n on each document separately.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/

Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working grou=
p document?  If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all why.

We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in this =
case.  We have all known about these documents for some time so it seems re=
asonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews takes us.

If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywhere W=
ednesday with either a "+1" to accept all documents or a message noting you=
r objection that would be great!

Thanks!

Jim and Antoin

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<div>&#43;1 on adopting all of the documents.<br>
<br>
Scott</div>
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On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:01 PM, &quot;James Galvin&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Since these documents were included in the charter we're g=
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pect to make a decision on each document separately.<br>
<div><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext=
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<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a=
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<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/" targ=
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<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target=
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<div>Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working=
 group document?&nbsp; If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all =
why.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in =
this case.&nbsp; We have all known about these documents for some time so i=
t seems reasonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews t=
akes us.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywh=
ere Wednesday with either a &quot;&#43;1&quot; to accept all documents or a=
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<div>Thanks!<br>
<br>
Jim and Antoin<br>
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com
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>  +1 on adopting all of the documents.
>
>
+1

.wil

>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/
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beck@verisign.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<div dir=3D"auto">
<div>+1 on adopting all of the documents.<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1</div><div>=C2=A0</div><=
div>.wil</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
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target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext=
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<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a=
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<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target=3D=
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<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target=
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> On 14 Jan 2014, at 0:58, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wr=
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> +1 on adopting all of the documents.
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> Scott
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> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "James Galvin" <galvin@elistx.com> wrote:
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>> Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to start b=
y adopting them as a group.  In the future we should expect to make a decisi=
on on each document separately.
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>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/
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>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/
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>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/
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>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/
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>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/
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>> Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working gr=
oup document?  If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all why.
>>=20
>> We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in thi=
s case.  We have all known about these documents for some time so it seems r=
easonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews takes us.
>>=20
>> If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywhere=
 Wednesday with either a "+1" to accept all documents or a message noting yo=
ur objection that would be great!
>>=20
>> Thanks!
>>=20
>> Jim and Antoin
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1</div><div><br>On 14 Jan 2014, at 0:58, "Hollenbeck, Scott" &lt;<a href="mailto:shollenbeck@verisign.com">shollenbeck@verisign.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<div>+1 on adopting all of the documents.<br>
<br>
Scott</div>
<div><br>
On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "James Galvin" &lt;<a href="mailto:galvin@elistx.com">galvin@elistx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
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<div dir="ltr">Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to start by adopting them as a group.&nbsp; In the future we should expect to make a decision on each document separately.<br>
<div><br>
<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/" target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/</a><br>
<br>
<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working group document?&nbsp; If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all why.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in this case.&nbsp; We have all known about these documents for some time so it seems reasonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews takes us.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywhere Wednesday with either a "+1" to accept all documents or a message noting your objection that would be great!<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Thanks!<br>
<br>
Jim and Antoin<br>
<br>
</div>
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</div>
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+1 - I generally agree with Scott: I'd very much like to avoid a conflict wi=
th WEIRDS.

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> On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:03, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> w=
rote:
>=20
> From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James Galvin
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: eppext@ietf.org
> Subject: [eppext] meeting during London
> =20
> As previously noted, we have until this Friday to decide if we want a meet=
ing slot during the London IETF.
>=20
> We're inclined to ask for a meeting slot but folks should feel free to dis=
agree.
>=20
> It's not hard to imagine that with 5 documents we could use an opportunity=
 to discuss any review issues.  Of course, we could also choose to do all ou=
r work on the mailing list rather than using a meeting slot.
> =20
> If we do ask for a slot the next question is do we want a short slot of 1 h=
our or do we want to ask for a more typical "2 hour" slot?
>=20
> Finally, the most critical thing to care about if we do ask for a slot is w=
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> So, if folks would please respond to this message on the list with one of t=
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>=20
> +1 - let's have a meeting - please indicate if you think it should be 1 ho=
ur or 2 hours, and please indicate what other meetings you want to avoid.
>=20
> -1 - let's not have a physical meeting - any other comment you can make in=
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>=20
> [SAH]  Weak +1. We don=E2=80=99t currently have anything to create an agen=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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+1. I would also like to ask the group to adopt this one:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-01

Thanks,

G.

On 14/01/2014 03:04, mike wrote:
> +1
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> On 14 Jan 2014, at 0:58, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com
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>> +1 on adopting all of the documents.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 3:01 PM, "James Galvin" <galvin@elistx.com
>> <mailto:galvin@elistx.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to
>>> start by adopting them as a group.  In the future we should expect to=

>>> make a decision on each document separately.
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/
>>>
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/
>>>
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>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/
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>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/
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>>> Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a
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>>> us all why.
>>>
>>> We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in=

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>>>
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>>>
>>> Jim and Antoin
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We've gotten all "+1" on these 5 documents so I'm going to make the entries
in the datatracker to adopt these documents.

Jim



On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM, James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com> wrote:

> Since these documents were included in the charter we're going to start by
> adopting them as a group.  In the future we should expect to make a
> decision on each document separately.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/
>
> Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as a working
> group document?  If you, now is the time to speak up and tell us all why.
>
> We'd like to suggest a relatively short time period for objections in this
> case.  We have all known about these documents for some time so it seems
> reasonable to just get started and see where the detailed reviews takes us.
>
> If folks would please respond to the list by close of business everywhere
> Wednesday with either a "+1" to accept all documents or a message noting
> your objection that would be great!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim and Antoin
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>We&#39;ve gotten all &quot;+1&quot; on these 5 docume=
nts so I&#39;m going to make the entries in the datatracker to adopt these =
documents.<br><br></div>Jim<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM, James Galvin <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:galvin@elistx.com" target=3D"_blank">=
galvin@elistx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Since these documents were included in the charter we&#39;=
re going to start by adopting them as a group.=C2=A0 In the future we shoul=
d expect to make a decision on each document separately.<br><div><br><a hre=
f=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/<=
/a><br>

<br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/</a><br><br>
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/</a=
><br><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/</a><br>
<br></div><div>Does anyone object to adopting any one of these documents as=
 a working group document?=C2=A0 If you, now is the time to speak up and te=
ll us all why.<br><br></div><div>We&#39;d like to suggest a relatively shor=
t time period for objections in this case.=C2=A0 We have all known about th=
ese documents for some time so it seems reasonable to just get started and =
see where the detailed reviews takes us.<br>

<br></div><div>If folks would please respond to the list by close of busine=
ss everywhere Wednesday with either a &quot;+1&quot; to accept all document=
s or a message noting your objection that would be great!<br><br></div>

<div>Thanks!<br><br>Jim and Antoin<br><br></div></div>
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My apologies.  I only just realized this message seems to have gotten stuck
in my outbox.

We need to decide if we want a meeting slot during the London IETF.  As
previously suggested we're inclined to request a slot but we're very
interested in what others think.  Early discussions suggested we might be
able to get by without meeting at all during an IETF but people change
their minds and we may have different people on this working group mailing
list than have been involved previously.

The concern we have with asking for a meeting slot is we don't have a well
defined agenda.  It's probably reasonable to expect there will be a set of
issues available for discussion but, then again, there's nothing worse than
asking for a meeting slot and not making effective use of it.

Finally, there is the question of whether to ask for a "short" slot or a
"long" slot, i.e., 1 hour or 2 hours.

We need to make a decision about a meeting slot by Friday, 18 January, so
please respond as soon as you can.

We're inclined to ask for a short slot during the next IETF in London.
We'd appreciate if folks would indicate their preferences as follows.

Do you agree we should have a meeting London?

If so, do you agree with the 1 hour time slot?

If so, what other groups do you want to make sure we do not conflict with?

Thanks,

Jim and Antoin

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>My apologies.=
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utbox.<br><br></div>We need to decide if we want a meeting slot during the =
London IETF.=C2=A0 As previously suggested we&#39;re inclined to request a =
slot but we&#39;re very interested in what others think.=C2=A0 Early discus=
sions suggested we might be able to get by without meeting at all during an=
 IETF but people change their minds and we may have different people on thi=
s working group mailing list than have been involved previously.<br>
<br></div>The concern we have with asking for a meeting slot is we don&#39;=
t have a well defined agenda.=C2=A0 It&#39;s probably reasonable to expect =
there will be a set of issues available for discussion but, then again, the=
re&#39;s nothing worse than asking for a meeting slot and not making effect=
ive use of it.<br>
<br></div>Finally, there is the question of whether to ask for a &quot;shor=
t&quot; slot or a &quot;long&quot; slot, i.e., 1 hour or 2 hours.<br><br></=
div><div>We need to make a decision about a meeting slot by Friday, 18 Janu=
ary, so please respond as soon as you can.<br>
</div><div><br></div>We&#39;re inclined to ask for a short slot during the =
next IETF in London.=C2=A0 We&#39;d appreciate if folks would indicate thei=
r preferences as follows.<br><br></div>Do you agree we should have a meetin=
g London?<br>
<br></div>If so, do you agree with the 1 hour time slot?<br><br></div>If so=
, what other groups do you want to make sure we do not conflict with?<br><b=
r></div>Thanks,<br><br></div>Jim and Antoin<br><br></div>

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On 01/13/14 21:01, James Galvin wrote:

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/
>=20
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/
>=20
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-obispo-epp-idn/
>=20
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tan-epp-launchphase/
>=20
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-tmch-smd/

+1

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All documents have been adopted and pre-approved in the datatracker as
working group documents.

The names have been mapped as follows:

draft-hollenbeck-epp-ext-reg/  --> draft-ietf-eppext-reg
draft-gieben-epp-keyrelay/  -->  draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay
draft-obispo-epp-idn/  -->  draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap
draft-tan-epp-launchphase/   -->  draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase
draft-lozano-tmch-smd/  -->  draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd

If the authors would please resubmit their documents as working group
documents we can get started talking about documents.

As each document is announced folks should feel free to send comments to
the list.  The chairs will start a thread for each document if necessary to
keep things moving.

Jim

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Colleagues,

Following the guidance on the mailinglist, your chairs have requested
a 1,5 hour session to meet in London for IETF 89.

There has not been much discussion on the list yet, but lets start
that in the coming weeks now that the documents from our charter have
been adopted. I think the most important document to start with is the
registry document, so let's all read that and start sending in comments.

Since we will meet, we will need agenda items.
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        Title           : Extension Registry for the Extensible Provisionin=
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        Author          : Scott Hollenbeck
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-reg-00.txt
	Pages           : 7
	Date            : 2014-01-17

Abstract:
   The Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) includes features to add
   functionality by extending the protocol.  It does not, however,
   describe how those extensions are managed.  This document describes a
   procedure for the registration and management of extensions to EPP
   and it specifies a format for an IANA registry to record those
   extensions.


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        Title           : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning=
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Abstract:
   This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
   extension mapping for the purpose of relaying DNSSEC key material
   from one DNS operator to another, by using the administrative
   registration channel through the registrant, registrar and registry.
   The mapping introduces "<keyrelay>" as a new command in EPP.

   This command will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a
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I just realised that it took such a long time finishing this text to not =
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was both a new working group and a new mailing list. However, I have =
been looking at the registry lock issues, and think this alternative can =
be of some interest.

Name:		draft-wallstrom-epp-registrant-problem-statement
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Title:		EPP Registrant Security Problem Statement
Document date:	2014-01-20
Group:		Individual Submission
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Abstract:
  This document collects a number of requirements on securing the
  provisioning of DNS data between a Registrant and a Registry.  The
  most common attack in the chain of Registrant-Registrar-Registry is
  to inject false information into the Registrar system, which in turn
  forwards the injected data to the Registry using EPP, the Extensible
  Provisioning Protocol.


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	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase-00.txt
	Pages           : 51
	Date            : 2014-01-21

Abstract:
   This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
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Re: section 4 of draft-ietf-eppext-reg-00

IANA's registration procedures allow for a registry to be created with a se=
t of initial assignments. The document currently says "None", but I don't t=
hink that's optimal because there are some extensions that already exist in=
 RFC form. I'd like to suggest that these extensions be included as a set o=
f initial assignments:

RFC 3915, "Domain Registry Grace Period Mapping for the Extensible Provisio=
ning Protocol (EPP)"

RFC 4114, "E.164 Number Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (E=
PP)"

RFC 5076, "ENUM Validation Information Mapping for the Extensible Provision=
ing Protocol"

RFC 5910, "Domain Name System (DNS) Security Extensions Mapping for the Ext=
ensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)"

Given that all of these documents have already been through IETF review the=
y're not extensions to be reviewed by EPPEXT that aren't specified in the W=
G's charter. Does this seem reasonable?

Scott

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That sounds reasonable to me.
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On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

>Re: section 4 of draft-ietf-eppext-reg-00
>
>IANA's registration procedures allow for a registry to be created with a
>set of initial assignments. The document currently says "None", but I
>don't think that's optimal because there are some extensions that already
>exist in RFC form. I'd like to suggest that these extensions be included
>as a set of initial assignments:
>
>RFC 3915, "Domain Registry Grace Period Mapping for the Extensible
>Provisioning Protocol (EPP)"
>
>RFC 4114, "E.164 Number Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol
>(EPP)"
>
>RFC 5076, "ENUM Validation Information Mapping for the Extensible
>Provisioning Protocol"
>
>RFC 5910, "Domain Name System (DNS) Security Extensions Mapping for the
>Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)"
>
>Given that all of these documents have already been through IETF review
>they're not extensions to be reviewed by EPPEXT that aren't specified in
>the WG's charter. Does this seem reasonable?
>
>Scott
>_______________________________________________
>EppExt mailing list
>EppExt@ietf.org
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Scott,

I agree. There is no need for a review by the EPPEXT, and can be included i=
n the initial assignment to the registry.

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Subject: Re: [eppext] Initial Registrations for the Extension Registry

That sounds reasonable to me.
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JG
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On 1/22/14, 8:54 AM, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

>Re: section 4 of draft-ietf-eppext-reg-00
>
>IANA's registration procedures allow for a registry to be created with=20
>a set of initial assignments. The document currently says "None", but I=20
>don't think that's optimal because there are some extensions that=20
>already exist in RFC form. I'd like to suggest that these extensions be=20
>included as a set of initial assignments:
>
>RFC 3915, "Domain Registry Grace Period Mapping for the Extensible=20
>Provisioning Protocol (EPP)"
>
>RFC 4114, "E.164 Number Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning=20
>Protocol (EPP)"
>
>RFC 5076, "ENUM Validation Information Mapping for the Extensible=20
>Provisioning Protocol"
>
>RFC 5910, "Domain Name System (DNS) Security Extensions Mapping for the=20
>Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)"
>
>Given that all of these documents have already been through IETF review=20
>they're not extensions to be reviewed by EPPEXT that aren't specified=20
>in the WG's charter. Does this seem reasonable?
>
>Scott
>_______________________________________________
>EppExt mailing list
>EppExt@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensio=
ns Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Extension Registry for the Extensible Provisionin=
g Protocol
        Author          : Scott Hollenbeck
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-reg-01.txt
	Pages           : 9
	Date            : 2014-01-24

Abstract:
   The Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) includes features to add
   functionality by extending the protocol.  It does not, however,
   describe how those extensions are managed.  This document describes a
   procedure for the registration and management of extensions to EPP
   and it specifies a format for an IANA registry to record those
   extensions.


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This version contains initial registry entries for the four RFCs described =
in this message:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00025.html

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensio=
ns Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Internationalized Domain Name Mapping Extension f=
or the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
        Authors         : Francisco Obispo
                          Luis Enrique Munoz
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap-00.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2014-01-27

Abstract:
   This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
   extension mapping for the provisioning of Internationalized Domain
   Names (IDN) stored in a shared central repository.  This mapping
   extends the EPP domain name mapping to provide additional features
   required to implement registrations of domain names in characters
   sets other than ASCII.


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Just re-submitted the following:

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> Name:		draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap
> Revision:	00
> Title:		Internationalized Domain Name Mapping Extension =
for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
> Document date:	2014-01-27
> Group:		eppext
> Pages:		10
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensio=
ns Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Internationalized Domain Name Mapping Extension f=
or the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
        Authors         : Francisco Obispo
                          Luis Enrique Munoz
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap-01.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2014-01-27

Abstract:
   This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
   extension mapping for the provisioning of Internationalized Domain
   Names (IDN) stored in a shared central repository.  This mapping
   extends the EPP domain name mapping to provide additional features
   required to implement registrations of domain names in characters
   sets other than ASCII.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Had to re-submit because we (the authors) are now working for =
Uniregistry, and noticed that the organization =93abbrev=94 field was =
still reading ISC.

Apologies.

Francisco


On Jan 27, 2014, at 8:08 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

>=20
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
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Extensions Working Group of the IETF.
>=20
>        Title           : Internationalized Domain Name Mapping =
Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
>        Authors         : Francisco Obispo
>                          Luis Enrique Munoz
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap-01.txt
> 	Pages           : 10
> 	Date            : 2014-01-27


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        Title           : Mark and Signed Mark Objects Mapping
        Author          : Gustavo Lozano
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-00.txt
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	Date            : 2014-01-27

Abstract:
   This document describes the format of a mark and a digitally signed
   mark, referred to as a signed mark and the Signed Mark Data (SMD)
   file as defined by the ICANN Trademark Clearinghouse.


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Reference this WG document:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-reg-01

It's also helpful to review Section 4.1 of RFC 5226:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1

Section 3.1 of reg-01 says that 'The "Specification Required" policy descri=
bed in RFC 5226 [RFC5226] MUST be followed' and 'Note that the "Specificati=
on Required" policy implies review by a Designated Expert'. I want to expli=
citly call this out for discussion because it gets to the crux of how exten=
sions will eventually be reviewed prior to registration by IANA. Is this th=
e right approach? We could also require discussion on a mailing list; is it=
 worth suggesting that eppext@ietf.org be used for that purpose even after =
the WG completes its work and is closed?

There are other options for IANA registration policies, including Private U=
se, Experimental Use, Hierarchical Allocation, First Come First Served, Exp=
ert Review, RFC Required, IETF Review, Standards Action, and IESG Approval.=
 I proposed "Specification Required" because I think it makes sense to have=
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iew will help us prevent extension duplication.

Scott

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It was my understanding that one of the goals of eppext is to promote
publication of _existing_ EPP extensions as a mechanism to prevent further
duplication. Several registries have =B3key-value pair=B2 extensions, howev=
er
your last sentence suggests that the public will identify duplication
within these and allow only one to be registered with IANA?

James

On 30/01/2014 12:32 am, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
wrote:

>Reference this WG document:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-reg-01
>
>It's also helpful to review Section 4.1 of RFC 5226:
>
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.1
>
>Section 3.1 of reg-01 says that 'The "Specification Required" policy
>described in RFC 5226 [RFC5226] MUST be followed' and 'Note that the
>"Specification Required" policy implies review by a Designated Expert'. I
>want to explicitly call this out for discussion because it gets to the
>crux of how extensions will eventually be reviewed prior to registration
>by IANA. Is this the right approach? We could also require discussion on
>a mailing list; is it worth suggesting that eppext@ietf.org be used for
>that purpose even after the WG completes its work and is closed?
>
>There are other options for IANA registration policies, including Private
>Use, Experimental Use, Hierarchical Allocation, First Come First Served,
>Expert Review, RFC Required, IETF Review, Standards Action, and IESG
>Approval. I proposed "Specification Required" because I think it makes
>sense to have extensions documented in a publicly-visible specification
>*and* public review will help us prevent extension duplication.
>
>Scott
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Hi Scott et al.

As the IETF Designated Expert for ENUM I could shortly outline, how this 
works for ENUM. In fact, I see a lot of similarities in process between 
IANA registration of EPP Extensions and Enumservices.

[RFC 6117] defines the IANA registration process for Enumservices with 
policy "Specification Required" (which includes Expert Review).

Further comments inline.

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:

> Section 3.1 of reg-01 says that 'The "Specification Required" policy 
> described in RFC 5226 [RFC5226] MUST be followed' and 'Note that the 
> "Specification Required" policy implies review by a Designated Expert'. 
> I want to explicitly call this out for discussion because it gets to the 
> crux of how extensions will eventually be reviewed prior to registration 
> by IANA. Is this the right approach? We could also require discussion on 
> a mailing list; is it worth suggesting that eppext@ietf.org be used for 
> that purpose even after the WG completes its work and is closed?

In ENUM we require [RFC 6117] discussion on the (kept-open ENUM) mailing 
list from the begining. This ensures gathering of early comments by the 
community, and thus leads to better quality of the specification at the 
time of Expert Review.

In addition, as IESG Designated Expert, I inform the ENUM mailing list 
about the start of the Expert Review process to allow for (late) comments 
on the to be reviewed version. After conclusion of the Expert Review, I 
also post its results to the ENUM mailing list. (While both these steps 
are not required, I consider it as good practice to keep the process as 
transparent and open as possible.)

> There are other options for IANA registration policies, including 
> Private Use, Experimental Use, Hierarchical Allocation, First Come First 
> Served, Expert Review, RFC Required, IETF Review, Standards Action, and 
> IESG Approval. I proposed "Specification Required" because I think it 
> makes sense to have extensions documented in a publicly-visible 
> specification *and* public review will help us prevent extension 
> duplication.

I agree with you and suggest to apply a similar policy and practices as 
used for Enumservices [RFC 6117].

cheers,
  Bernie

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:james.mitchell@ausregistry.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 8:56 AM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott; eppext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [eppext] Specification Required
>=20
> It was my understanding that one of the goals of eppext is to promote
> publication of _existing_ EPP extensions as a mechanism to prevent
> further duplication. Several registries have =B3key-value pair=B2
> extensions, however your last sentence suggests that the public will
> identify duplication within these and allow only one to be registered
> with IANA?

Specific recommendations are a matter for the designated expert and review =
process to decide, but I do not think our purpose is to create a registry t=
hat does nothing more than list existing extensions.

Scott
