From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 10 11:17:41 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4g8z-0008QQ-T1; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:17:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4g8x-0008O7-LZ for fecframe@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:17:39 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H4g8w-0006Np-Ct for fecframe@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:17:39 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so151677ugf for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:17:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=asRXgB7epmoLIJdQ0QsQ9KR9khE0gp7lTnIYTeMLBykL1BMbuSpoEfe1vfMmSTgm9PXCz5eHZmjBOY4dGybu/D48++Sh/l4dXL6grglhyrIPkA4EyMH/5cNisVWgxtMmRrrAPzgD44XyoATFAZ+bmzEszka7yNMmr6RNZh7doVo= Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr132944huf.1168445856519; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.120.17 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:17:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38c19b540701100817n847d4aewc74423d519826f84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:17:36 -0800 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: fecframe@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Subject: [Fecframe] Prep for Prague X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org It's time once again to shedule our WG slot for the next meeting, and develop an agenda. As usual the traffic on this list was blistering - made even more torrent from the holidays. ;-) Please send any agenda items too me and/or the list and I'll accumulate. Some important dates below: - Cut-off date for requesting a Working Group session and for preliminary BOF proposals to ADs: Monday, January 15 at 17:00 ET (22:00 UTC/GMT). -- Cut-off date for requests to schedule BoFs: Monday, February 5 at 17:00 ET (22:00 UTC/GMT). -- Preliminary agenda published for comment: Friday, February 9 by midnight ET. -- Cut-off date for requests to reschedule a session: Wednesday, February 21 at 09:00 ET (14:00 UTC/GMT). -- Final schedule published: Monday, February 26 before midnight ET. -- Draft Working Group agendas due: Wednesday, March 7 at 17:00 ET (22:00 UTC/GMT). -- Revised Working Group agendas due: Monday, March 12 at 12:00 ET (16:00 UTC/GMT), upload using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jan 21 22:28:32 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H8pr8-0002DZ-A6; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:26 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H8pr7-0002DU-Ml for fecframe@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:25 -0500 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H8pr6-00007G-Dj for fecframe@ietf.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:25 -0500 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 6106820; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: <52E27EC4-E2BB-4A28-8272-72A35E956169@multicasttech.com> References: <38c19b540612071735q552e205el38ecad46aeb8b3cb@mail.gmail.com> <26EBB276-A3BB-4727-9000-B11FF3D9CC9D@stewe.org> <48405AC9-C9CB-4279-A94B-3FF8003A9D96@digitalfountain.com> <38c19b540612071937kc7aa1d1x6da67d9897bc4691@mail.gmail.com> <52E27EC4-E2BB-4A28-8272-72A35E956169@multicasttech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9722828D-0320-4D80-A95A-4DECD54D036D@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: WG Adoption of draft-watson-fecframe-framework-00.txt - was Re: [Fecframe] Next steps.. Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:16 -0500 To: Marshall Eubanks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 67c1ea29f88502ef6a32ccec927970f0 Cc: fecframe@ietf.org X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org This comment period having long expired, I declare consensus to adopt this document as a WG draft. Mark, could you please send this in to the Secretariat as an ietf- fecframe draft ? Regards Marshall On Dec 8, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > My feeling is that there was consensus at the meeting to adopt > draft-watson-fecframe-framework-00.txt > as a working group document. This needs to be ratified by the list. > > This is a mini call for comments on this matter, which will expire > 5 PM PST Friday Dec 15. > > If you agree, and especially if you disagree, > please speak up. Of course, comments on the document text are also > appropriate and welcomed. > > Regards > Marshall Eubanks > > > On Dec 7, 2006, at 10:37 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > >> On 12/7/06, Mark Watson wrote: >>> I agree - just because there isn't a single formal term doesn't mean >>> we can't agree that the document is 'frozen' - so long as we all >>> understand what that actually means, which is just that it will form >>> the basis of our work and we don't see any need now for further >>> changes. >> >> Agreed. I suppose I was imagining a official "frozen" status would >> let >> it live in draft form without expiration. Other than that I see >> little >> benefit >> >>> I think you need to qualify that hum on draft-watson-fecframe- >>> framework-00.txt was to adopt *as a working group document*. >> >> Yes, thanks! >> >> Greg >> >>> ...Mark >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Stephan Wenger wrote: >>> >>> > I'm happy with the requirements and have therefore no problem to >>> > consider the draft "frozen". Couldn't care less how to express >>> > that formally. >>> > Regards, >>> > Stephan >>> > >>> > On Dec 7, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >>> > >>> >> Greetings, >>> >> >>> >> We have two list items from the San Diego meeting, and this >>> year is >>> >> about gone... >>> >> >>> >> It was suggested that we hold off on last-call for >>> >> draft-fecframe-req-01.txt to leave us flexibility as we learn >>> going >>> >> forward. Someone mentioned considering a freeze-call. >>> >> >>> >> A search of ietf.org for freeze call brings up only five >>> references; >>> >> one from our last minutes and the other four from ROHC. The >>> IETF-ID >>> >> tracker has 17 choices for Document State - two of them being >>> Last >>> >> Call Requested, and In Last Call - but no mention of freeze-call. >>> >> >>> >> But I suppose we can still get consensus here on the list for >>> the req >>> >> draft itself. From there we can decide if there is really such a >>> >> thing >>> >> as a freeze-call, what it buys us, and whether it fits. >>> >> >>> >> So, please - read and respond. >>> >> >>> >> Next, draft-watson-fecframe-framework-00.txt was presented and >>> >> received a humming acceptance for adoption. >>> >> >>> >> Again, read and respond please. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks! >>> >> Greg >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Fecframe mailing list >>> >> Fecframe@ietf.org >>> >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Fecframe mailing list >>> > Fecframe@ietf.org >>> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fecframe mailing list >> Fecframe@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe