From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 13:00:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F26728C189; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@ietf.org Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 344C23A695E; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080707200001.344C23A695E@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the FEC Framework Working Group of the IETF. Title : Signaling Protocol to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information Author(s) : R. Asati Filename : draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2008-07-06 FEC Framework document [FECARCH] defines the FEC Framework Configuration Information necessary for the FEC framework operation. This document describes one signaling protocol to determine and dynamically communicate the Configuration information between sender(s) and receiver(s). Conventions used in this document In examples, "C:" and "S:" indicate lines sent by the client and server respectively. The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC2119]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-07-07125559.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --NextPart-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 13:50:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1633A6B03; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906783A6B03 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:50:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.882 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.882 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dqqx5YGuAbk4 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server515.appriver.com (server515g.exghost.com [72.32.253.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F1B3A68FA for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.2.0) with PIPE id 50514010; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:49:57 -0500 Received: from FE1.exchange.rackspace.com ([72.32.49.5] verified) by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 50513526 for fecframe@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:49:45 -0500 Received: from 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.68]) by FE1.exchange.rackspace.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:45:53 -0500 Received: from 68.164.169.103 ([68.164.169.103]) by 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.58]) via Exchange Front-End Server owa.mailseat.com ([192.168.1.60]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:45:52 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:45:49 -0700 From: Mark Watson To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-watson-fecframe-raptor-00 Thread-Index: Acjgcm//rkOsbExlEd2RgAAX8sJN9g== In-Reply-To: <20080707203647.E28E73A6911@core3.amsl.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2008 20:45:53.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[729C7950:01C8E072] X-Policy: GLOBAL - UNKNOWN X-Primary: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: FCH-SI:0/SG:0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: 1, 192.168.1.68, Ugly c=0.906387 p=-0.996366 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-4296-c X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->PRIVATE->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 72.32.49.5 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: fe1.exchange.rackspace.com X-Note-WHTLIST: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 80 81 82 83 151 X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: [Fecframe] FW: New Version Notification for draft-watson-fecframe-raptor-00 X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org ------ Forwarded Message From: IETF I-D Submission Tool Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: New Version Notification for draft-watson-fecframe-raptor-00 A new version of I-D, draft-watson-fecframe-raptor-00.txt has been successfuly submitted by Mark Watson and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-watson-fecframe-raptor Revision: 00 Title: Raptor FEC Schemes for FECFRAME Creation_date: 2008-07-07 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 19 Abstract: This document describes Fully-Specified Forward Error Correction (FEC) Schemes for the Raptor code and its application to reliable delivery of media streams in the context of FEC Framework. The Raptor code is a systematic code, where a number of repair symbols are generated from a set of source symbols and sent in one or more repair flows in addition to the source symbols that are sent to the receiver(s) within a source flow. The Raptor code offers a close to optimal protection against arbitrary packet losses at a low computational complexity. Two FEC Schemes are defined, one for protection of arbitrary packet flows and another for protection of a single flow that already contains a sequence number. Repair data may be sent over arbitrary datagram transport (e.g. UDP) or using RTP. An RTP Payload Type is defined for this latter case. The IETF Secretariat. ------ End of Forwarded Message _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 15:40:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA4728C319; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A00E28C319 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zY8oDctCAKz7 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FB128C321 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,318,1212364800"; d="scan'208";a="49782515" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2008 22:40:07 +0000 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m67Me78q021925 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:07 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m67Me78S008661 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:40:07 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:07 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:38:33 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D54075DAB41@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00 thread-index: AcjggcxELAZ65REuQZajmFY7F5caawAABsGw From: "Ali Begen (abegen)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2008 22:40:07.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[67D0B300:01C8E082] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1604; t=1215470407; x=1216334407; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20(abegen)=22=20 |Subject:=20FW=3A=20New=20Version=20Notification=20for=20dr aft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00=20 |Sender:=20; bh=71/OIFpLbTK3UQqfRexR/Rekm5wGuTgf/c9LM93wLGo=; b=hPizWrufbJAycZ2jORwizr848exR7vdLzIVSSmM6CPWzWI1IirFuPtc0fc erMVzavOkH9ASSudXH/1+3bUq8oB8zSoRctrljhQY4/s4I1R1M5NtltUsqXh thT1SgM4Qc; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Subject: [Fecframe] FW: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00 X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org FYI. This is the draft that explains the DVB's AL-FEC protocol. The link is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00.t xt BR, -acbegen -----Original Message----- From: IETF I-D Submission Tool [mailto:idsubmission@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:35 PM To: Ali Begen (abegen) Cc: stockhammer@digitalfountain.com Subject: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00 A new version of I-D, draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec-00.txt has been successfuly submitted by Ali Begen and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec Revision: 00 Title: DVB Application-Layer Hybrid FEC Protection Creation_date: 2008-07-07 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 10 Abstract: This document describes the Application-layer Forward Error Correction (FEC) protocol that was developed by the Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB) consortium for the protection of media streams over IP networks. The DVB AL-FEC protocol uses two layers for FEC protection. The first (base) layer is based on the 1-D interleaved parity code. The second (enhancement) layer is based on the Raptor code. Since both of these codes have already been specified in separate documents, the current document does not define the details of these codes but provides the references to the respective specifications. By offering a layered approach, the DVB AL-FEC offers a good protection against both bursty and random packet losses at a cost of decent complexity. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 15:40:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0828C323; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD5D28C318 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOo0RlcdFSYQ for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D814628C322 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,318,1212364800"; d="scan'208";a="123585056" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2008 22:40:07 +0000 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m67Me7ZK014240 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:07 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m67Me79x003631 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:40:07 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:07 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:39:40 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D54075DAB42@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-00 thread-index: AcjgYKRWHg4LLZ0FTS+wBdb/9Pu9QAAAFHKw From: "Ali Begen (abegen)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2008 22:40:07.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[67DF0AE0:01C8E082] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1838; t=1215470407; x=1216334407; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20(abegen)=22=20 |Subject:=20FW=3A=20New=20Version=20Notification=20for=20dr aft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-00=20 |Sender:=20; bh=W2WyC3prc+o7XQ7VNC46qnn4buR+czG8Mc+sLahcv4o=; b=TF8T0iqSc/IqeOqI7f+BZjPDcOv0XL89waeRPAI3CVZSwPCmWcUYyn4GbS 1PnMmiYmKHDwtZ/OW9nfklCWscCX4FjBkyrbrJ5+gK4fHZ4qQeC8q37p1vNE NxlS7zlyiErEsNtxmZca5Aqq5c3HTGlpJ1SkgxQhOwIe0nfHFh00A=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Subject: [Fecframe] FW: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-00 X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org FYI. This is the spec for the interleaved parity FEC scheme used as the base layer of the DVB AL-FEC protocol. The link is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec -scheme-00.txt BR, -acbegen -----Original Message----- From: IETF I-D Submission Tool [mailto:idsubmission@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:38 AM To: Ali Begen (abegen) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-00 A new version of I-D, draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-00.txt has been successfuly submitted by Ali Begen and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme Revision: 00 Title: 1-D Interleaved Parity FEC Scheme for FEC Framework Creation_date: 2008-07-07 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 26 Abstract: This document describes a Fully-Specified Forward Error Correction (FEC) Scheme for the one-dimensional (1-D) interleaved parity code and its application to reliable delivery of media streams in the context of FEC Framework. The 1-D interleaved parity code is a systematic code, where a number of repair symbols are generated from a set of source symbols and sent in one or more repair flows in addition to the source symbols that are sent to the receiver(s) within a source flow. The 1-D interleaved parity code offers a good protection against bursty packet losses at a cost of decent complexity. This document extends the FEC header defined in RFC 2733 and registers a new RTP payload format for the FEC that is generated by the 1-D interleaved parity code from a source media encapsulated in RTP. This new payload format is compatible with and used as a part of the DVB Application-layer FEC Specification. The IETF Secretariat. _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 19:23:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26ACC28C17C; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B638C28C17C for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HNI8vR8WLoH8 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A019A28C171 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so1046874ywj.49 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:23:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=w3j+cJAUdgaFTgdje1cLBo2d+cWcgb74+fkQll4u1gQ=; b=V4datO/+2iSLKRf2XBSVRLk7uos4c2Y4hcUZ213Ru93L2b6TBVnXdU+nUKdXRBclF7 i4KT/NHVbEiGxfWV2Nxcgenl8UA+VyBup5IWSpEF++1sPnwvadr/OFhPd851cVTZsUhG ITfsh76ZrI/RByVA9OvubHPSRt+RvFO6Hkizg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=D1qNucWQRXOLyGPpZAym0ldsWMsXciC2mSJxfhKBPovs0r3nKKtfNcBO3FE+wkp/2Q HgRG5Tp/UHRCXKOccYTqjsGyr45VjY8clUauZiaR6agqv+rmXsTcnV4cKqH5Ma7t/i8o D00Zts2sB8d1cVP11hdD2jREYR07dAbqndEP8= Received: by 10.151.45.2 with SMTP id x2mr187825ybj.165.1215483810329; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.85.12 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241bc2150807071923i4bec7935o87d697b1677b4ed3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:23:30 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ula=BA_C._Kozat?=" To: fecframe@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <241bc2150807071922uc99d353l4b9e454742e0bb3c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2FD61F37AFF16D4DB46149330E4273C7016C81AE@dcl-ex.dcml.docomolabs-usa.com> <241bc2150807071922uc99d353l4b9e454742e0bb3c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Fecframe] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-00 X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1991994957==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --===============1991994957== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22920_12893089.1215483810308" ------=_Part_22920_12893089.1215483810308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline FYI, this is the draft for Pseudo CDP that uses fec framework and the SDP elements in a multiple-source flow scenario. Ulas -----Original Message----- From: IETF I-D Submission Tool [mailto:idsubmission@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:27 AM To: abegen@cisco.com Cc: Ulas Kozat Subject: New Version Notification for draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-00 A new version of I-D, draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-00.txt has been successfuly submitted by Ali Begen and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp Revision: 00 Title: Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple Source Flows in FEC Framework Creation_date: 2008-07-07 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 13 Abstract: This document provides a pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) to protect multiple source flows with one or more repair flows based on the FEC Framework document and the Session Description Protocol (SDP) elements defined for the framework. The purpose of the document is not to provide a full-pledged protocol, but to show how the defined framework and SDP elements can be combined together to design a CDP. The IETF Secretariat. ------=_Part_22920_12893089.1215483810308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

FYI, this is the draft for Pseudo CDP that uses fec framework and the SDP elements in a multiple-source flow scenario.

Ulas

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A new version of I-D, draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-00.txt has been
successfuly submitted by Ali Begen and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename:        draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp
Revision:        00
Title:           Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting
Multiple Source Flows in FEC Framework
Creation_date:   2008-07-07
WG ID:           Independent Submission
Number_of_pages: 13

Abstract:
This document provides a pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) to
protect multiple source flows with one or more repair flows based on
the FEC Framework document and the Session Description Protocol (SDP)
elements defined for the framework.  The purpose of the document is
not to provide a full-pledged protocol, but to show how the defined
framework and SDP elements can be combined together to design a CDP.




The IETF Secretariat.




------=_Part_22920_12893089.1215483810308-- --===============1991994957== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============1991994957==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 20:15:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482CE28C103; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F95B28C103 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vgz56rOfKsEl for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9828C0F2 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so1118750and.122 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:15:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=lzMqDVviYDQWhCnp8zXebQglcM54QJYB9N2arle5YWI=; b=MZQGkft2Ecwz0GCP2/j88gzE8IVp4SE6PlWcFNHgCrONF3zLShENGz9uFiPGoA4Zbc D2qgiHA8OLONSGf++yl4jivY1/WcAd7oAJy1GNYW4I7Ma+XsFCts3FLdqDGWqwYSv55U dR5Am0mGbCAeTC2EaqMXip8y8PBX+07xfEtNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Mv9VBloZ91VQKDT1Y+4+XHexDWICpGokeNBMMGdIGh1vPQaxLdQCq16zA4LyyRUPFi RDQXE7cFoLUCMO2sSkvAsCjqNk/RctRnQsj4Z5kRp4i4oIZDUcHXTybiWZT+MukIoZJO bQwUFTewSfkjO+bjVqi1oaeRhekhG46kegrSs= Received: by 10.100.58.19 with SMTP id g19mr4353676ana.41.1215486934973; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.112.16 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540807072015r4ac27aafi92104bbeed1d9bc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:15:34 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: fecframe@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Fecframe] Dublin Agenda X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0656882076==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --===============0656882076== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_59_15216655.1215486934950" ------=_Part_59_15216655.1215486934950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline After some fragmentation it looks like some of the pieces are coming together for the Dublin meeting. We have at least four drafts to discuss - listed below - so please send agenda slots requests for these and any other relevant topics, with a time allotment to Marshall and I soon. Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple Source Flows in FEC Framework draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp Raptor FEC Schemes for FECFRAME draft-watson-fecframe-raptor 1-D Interleaved Parity FEC Scheme for FEC Framework draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme DVB Application-Layer Hybrid FEC Protection draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec Signaling Protocol to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt Thanks, Greg ------=_Part_59_15216655.1215486934950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline After some fragmentation it looks like some of the pieces are coming together for the Dublin meeting. We have at least four drafts to discuss - listed below - so please send agenda slots requests for these and any other relevant topics, with a time allotment to Marshall and I soon.

Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple Source Flows in FEC Framework
draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp

Raptor FEC Schemes for FECFRAME
draft-watson-fecframe-raptor

1-D Interleaved Parity FEC Scheme for FEC Framework
draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme

DVB Application-Layer Hybrid FEC Protection
draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec

Signaling Protocol to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information
draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt

Thanks,
Greg

------=_Part_59_15216655.1215486934950-- --===============0656882076== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============0656882076==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jul 7 21:01:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A35C3A67DB; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:01:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1683A67E5 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:01:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.373 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.508, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jymovcc7fJZS for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server515.appriver.com (server515h.exghost.com [72.32.253.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B153A67DB for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.2.0) with PIPE id 50612495; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:00:56 -0500 Received: from FE2.exchange.rackspace.com ([72.32.49.6] verified) by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 50612486; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:00:55 -0500 Received: from 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.68]) by FE2.exchange.rackspace.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:01:01 -0500 Received: from 68.164.169.103 ([68.164.169.103]) by 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.58]) via Exchange Front-End Server owa.mailseat.com ([192.168.1.60]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 04:00:57 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:00:54 -0700 From: Mark Watson To: Greg Shepherd , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] Dublin Agenda Thread-Index: AcjgrzfKdnKxikyiEd2RgAAX8sJN9g== In-Reply-To: <38c19b540807072015r4ac27aafi92104bbeed1d9bc1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2008 04:01:01.0482 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C4088A0:01C8E0AF] X-Policy: GLOBAL - UNKNOWN X-Policy: GLOBAL - UNKNOWN X-Primary: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: CrossDomain Message, bypassing allowed tests X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: FCH-SI:0/SG:0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: 1, 192.168.1.68, Ugly c=0.913165 p=-0.996598 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-9417-c X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->PRIVATE->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 72.32.49.6 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: fe2.exchange.rackspace.com X-Note-WHTLIST: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 80 81 82 83 151 X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Dublin Agenda X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1683573133==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --===============1683573133== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3298309255_5555817" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3298309255_5555817 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit All, I will also be submitting an update to the Framework draft. The primary new issue there will be some text on the use of RTP as a transport for repair flows by FEC Schemes. We discussed this at the previous meetings and there has been some discussion on the list. Of course any FEC Scheme is already free to specify that its repair packets contain RTP headers without modification to the framework, but since this looks like it will be a common requirement I think some framework-level text will be valuable, perhaps even defining a common component which can be used by FEC Schemes to handle the RTP encapsulation of the repair flows ? ...Mark On 7/7/08 8:15 PM, "Greg Shepherd" wrote: > After some fragmentation it looks like some of the pieces are coming together > for the Dublin meeting. We have at least four drafts to discuss - listed below > - so please send agenda slots requests for these and any other relevant > topics, with a time allotment to Marshall and I soon. > > Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple Source Flows in > FEC Framework > draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp > > Raptor FEC Schemes for FECFRAME > draft-watson-fecframe-raptor > > 1-D Interleaved Parity FEC Scheme for FEC Framework > draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme > > DVB Application-Layer Hybrid FEC Protection > draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec > > Signaling Protocol to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information > draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt > > Thanks, > Greg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --B_3298309255_5555817 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Fecframe] Dublin Agenda All,<= BR>
I will also be submitting an update to the Framework draft. The primary new= issue there will be some text on the use of RTP as a transport for repair f= lows by FEC Schemes. We discussed this at the previous meetings and there ha= s been some discussion on the list. Of course any FEC Scheme is already free= to specify that its repair packets contain RTP headers without modification= to the framework, but since this looks like it will be a common requirement= I think some framework-level text will be valuable, perhaps even defining a= common component which can be used by FEC Schemes to handle the RTP encapsu= lation of the repair flows ?

...Mark


On 7/7/08 8:15 PM, "Greg Shepherd" <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote= :

After some fragmentation it looks like some of the piec= es are coming together for the Dublin meeting. We have at least four drafts = to discuss - listed below - so please send agenda slots requests for these a= nd any other relevant topics, with a time allotment to Marshall and I soon. =

Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple Source Flows= in FEC Framework
draft-kozat-fecframe-pseudo-cdp

Raptor FEC Schemes for FECFRAME
draft-watson-fecframe-raptor

1-D Interleaved Parity FEC Scheme for FEC Framework
draft-begen-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme

DVB Application-Layer Hybrid FEC Protection
draft-begen-fecframe-dvb-al-fec

Signaling Protocol to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information
draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-00.txt

Thanks,
Greg


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 --B_3298309255_5555817-- --===============1683573133== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============1683573133==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 10 16:44:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA53A6A89; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DC03A6AC5 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:44:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezTphAUyW9GP for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multicasttech.com (lennon.multicasttech.com [63.105.122.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC173A6AB7 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12068079 for fecframe@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:45:11 -0400 Message-Id: From: Marshall Eubanks To: fecframe@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:45:10 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Subject: [Fecframe] Fwd: Upcoming Jabber Server Load Test X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Something to try... Marshall Begin forwarded message: > From: Alexa Morris > Date: July 10, 2008 5:39:31 PM EDT > To: "ietf-announce@ietf.org" > Cc: IETF Discussion > Subject: Upcoming Jabber Server Load Test > > We recently deployed a new IETF Jabber server (ejabbered) and we > would like > to load test it before the Dublin meeting. This coming Tuesday, July > 15 at > 10am PT (1PM ET and 5pm GMT) you are officially invited to log into > the IETF > Jabber Hallway or various WG Chatrooms and chat with your fellow > community > members. We will be monitoring the performance of the server from > 10-11am > PT, so the more people online and using the Jabber Chatrooms the > better. > > For more information about the IETF Jabber services, please see here: > http://jabber.ietf.org/ > > Thank you, > Alexa > > ----------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Sat Jul 12 13:30:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551973A6884; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@ietf.org Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 46DA73A6884; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080712203001.46DA73A6884@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-framework-02.txt X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the FEC Framework Working Group of the IETF. Title : Forward Error Correction (FEC) Framework Author(s) : M. Watson Filename : draft-ietf-fecframe-framework-02.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2008-07-12 This document describes for a framework for using forward error correction (FEC) codes with applications in public and private IP networks to provide protection against packet loss. The framework supports applying Forward Error Correction to arbitrary packet flows over unreliable transport and is primarily intended for real-time, or streaming, media. This framework can be used to define Content Delivery Protocols that provide Forward Error Correction for streaming media delivery or other packet flows. Content Delivery Protocols defined using this framework can support any FEC Scheme (and associated FEC codes) which is compliant with various requirements defined in this document. Thus, Content Delivery Protocols can be defined which are not specific to a particular FEC Scheme and FEC Schemes can be defined which are not specific to a particular Content Delivery Protocol. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-fecframe-framework-02.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-fecframe-framework-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-07-12132405.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --NextPart-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jul 13 23:45:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04C33A6A9A; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@ietf.org Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C24F53A6A9A; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080714064501.C24F53A6A9A@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the FEC Framework Working Group of the IETF. Title : SDP Elements for FEC Framework Author(s) : A. Begen Filename : draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2008-07-13 This document specifies the use of Session Description Protocol (SDP) to describe the parameters required to signal the Forward Error Correction (FEC) Framework Configuration Information between the sender(s) and receiver(s). This document also provides the semantics for grouping multiple source and repair flows together for the applications that simultaneously use multiple instances of the FEC Framework. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-07-13233126.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --NextPart-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Sun Jul 13 23:58:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060743A68FF; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:58:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DCD3A68FF for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9U3LYz9na7vJ for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027A83A6405 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.30,357,1212364800"; d="scan'208";a="126296673" Received: from sj-dkim-6.cisco.com ([171.68.10.81]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2008 06:59:12 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-6.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m6E6xCYE005950 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:59:12 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6E6xCMG000913 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:59:12 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:59:12 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:03:30 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D540764A223@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20080714064501.C24F53A6A9A@core3.amsl.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt thread-index: AcjlfTVcB/lcg331SQWk3346SKo5PAAAM/3w References: <20080714064501.C24F53A6A9A@core3.amsl.com> From: "Ali Begen (abegen)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2008 06:59:12.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[1ECCBA80:01C8E57F] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1715; t=1216018752; x=1216882752; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim6002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20Begen=20(abegen)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Fecframe]=20I-D=20Action=3Adraft-ietf- fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt |Sender:=20; bh=Lc3VT639fbo7os/D2LHmnRDFpOhRG7MH2sS6cMUWvEo=; b=cJYlZAgbZEzgIrHiqtwAH4iuse/D/BDGoOnbkpnFxmqUecyjZ5ySl7cbu9 f5P21VUVmM5f+dZ3DW097SG0p+tZq3urwdrDz/EqLJyTAjaBI8f5Sj/Cdvh4 j2MS5mTCwI; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-6; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim6002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Nothing major in terms of updates. Some minor fixes and clarifications. We should delay WGLC until MMUSIC updates 3388. BR, -acbegen > -----Original Message----- > From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:45 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: [Fecframe] I-D Action:draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the FEC Framework Working Group > of the IETF. > > > Title : SDP Elements for FEC Framework > Author(s) : A. Begen > Filename : draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-01.txt > Pages : 21 > Date : 2008-07-13 > > This document specifies the use of Session Description > Protocol (SDP) to describe the parameters required to signal > the Forward Error Correction (FEC) Framework Configuration > Information between the > sender(s) and receiver(s). This document also provides the > semantics for grouping multiple source and repair flows > together for the applications that simultaneously use > multiple instances of the FEC Framework. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-el > ements-01.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail > reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII > version of the Internet-Draft. > _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 16 09:49:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4493B3A6A0D; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6583A6980 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6pYCO5dYnBAQ for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB33A3A6A0D for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so210323and.122 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=g9CPkvlS5uTFzTI8Am9Kk1S/TT9NUrTcKj6IynTJqtU=; b=dn1r3LxQQZsHqItqxaGLVb4+KT4O3H3MPt1vYTLtZCSlqRcRlVChEj5JXCP1SeNU0O DpmnvHhYB/LZLRvwH/0FK2xc/IAqSlAUOKV+8YmFgW/nj9RNo4np3Xfl9ZlzDWZhrMtO znJfTVIoRNtdd9mfN3mJkwpjpst9NAS4w/0DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=fhF47AZONQMQpD/tMmcYh1oAlu2sv+qhWO7juofpr4zGwy3vqh0+2UQ2DqWAf+8Gnc fXxH84v0B+WY3AB6HhVHnoSA/0ESExL83H+NwtHtHkF/FWJFRJNnZxoreLt9G5OlXcII zm3cXV/yBRFygyjmXr2XbsGyqVvHe7mQ/MvL4= Received: by 10.100.189.10 with SMTP id m10mr966851anf.150.1216227002129; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.112.16 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540807160950p6695091bqc0af9735643fc03f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:50:02 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: fecframe@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Fecframe] Agenda uploaded X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0635645108==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --===============0635645108== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29169_3754099.1216227002132" ------=_Part_29169_3754099.1216227002132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Please take a look and let me know if the time is appropriate and/or if something is missing. Thanks, Greg ------=_Part_29169_3754099.1216227002132 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Please take a look and let me know if the time is appropriate and/or if something is missing.

Thanks,
Greg
------=_Part_29169_3754099.1216227002132-- --===============0635645108== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============0635645108==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 29 06:00:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C1428C2A7; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE5E28C17A for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K0-neemgwBj9 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multicasttech.com (lennon.multicasttech.com [63.105.122.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A21128C289 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12281999; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:00:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1A64DEB2-52A3-4C9E-812E-CD28FC4452AF@multicasttech.com> From: Marshall Eubanks To: fecframe@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:00:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Subject: [Fecframe] Slides, Please X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org If you haven't presented your slides, please send them to Greg and me. I am adding a brief update (presented by me) on the RFC 2733 / 5109 / SMPTE 2022-1 situation. Regards Marshall _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 29 06:03:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A53928C2A5; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74763A69D6 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6owaoYgAZmgb for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multicasttech.com (lennon.multicasttech.com [63.105.122.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A43C28C2A8 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12282026; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: From: Marshall Eubanks To: Marshall Eubanks In-Reply-To: <1A64DEB2-52A3-4C9E-812E-CD28FC4452AF@multicasttech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:03:12 -0400 References: <1A64DEB2-52A3-4C9E-812E-CD28FC4452AF@multicasttech.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Slides, Please X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org It must be jet-lag. On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > If you haven't presented your slides, please send them to Greg and me. s/presented/submitted/ Marshall > > > I am adding a brief update (presented by me) on the RFC 2733 / > 5109 / SMPTE 2022-1 situation. > > Regards > Marshall > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jul 29 08:03:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB80B3A6B82; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851063A6B82 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ni2wE6CwzF30 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C85E3A6AF8 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4183962rvf.49 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4orqCEYzHDmdjkUBJ7lWJ5x5QxEA86PP5RTaoMr+T3s=; b=Zjfq/eKEv1Nbt+CA1zU2bYWdzEIldFZ07OxEVd76scBO90badv3q7tpjMt0GbEPUiq IKxhx3asJ3+GYGeitZXl428Z4nEDByKYDUtT0/fbtScqMsB19nj9MF4i3sNzC1arYlBC 0yn1JBUlrarQkY4tB5cb1v+YCUgaW7yLGdZ2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PHb4+R+heHQKASd3A5BWSrUl7gx8wmyKMfNR8EdWe536F2Ba9+J+bQqlykTfFav++V v/475rPVOezOXujZrQ34tS43WbXqm4PYoFUybZ+tsElvknOisG/a8NqiWHkC3nli9VRD oY9GQD2FAtN0M01HJtNZs4cGLD7duofEqycJI= Received: by 10.140.192.9 with SMTP id p9mr3213537rvf.114.1217343834728; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.164.9 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540807290803r58d77624j1fbb807dee10c3a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:54 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: fecframe@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <38c19b540807160950p6695091bqc0af9735643fc03f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38c19b540807160950p6695091bqc0af9735643fc03f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Agenda uploaded X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0860846893==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --===============0860846893== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30149_22006202.1217343834726" ------=_Part_30149_22006202.1217343834726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The agenda has be rev'd and updated online. Greg On 7/16/08, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > Please take a look and let me know if the time is appropriate and/or if > something is missing. > > Thanks, > Greg > ------=_Part_30149_22006202.1217343834726 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The agenda has be rev'd and updated online.

Greg

On 7/16/08, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
Please take a look and let me know if the time is appropriate and/or if something is missing.

Thanks,
Greg

------=_Part_30149_22006202.1217343834726-- --===============0860846893== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============0860846893==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 07:24:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CD53A6AA9; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:24:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC73A6AA9 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:24:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nKQ8iK9t6q-o for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1096F3A695D for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d18so21881and.122 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:23:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0hxG4ST1FOkYP+3tMzUguiuUS3CJy5/I18eHuxjZcOE=; b=wHvJgVjKg3Ww6k1Fzbb6a8pzs1aCAGVLlkb8m85G0PhI5uJklyFlXBxsdy65b7TWhL 1F6GGE7dCXJKkyDn2HoukhEGgdVqH2jWZoZB27ym9EUvkmjvwbaPBey+b1S0K7A00jR5 7+h6E2RLiL5J4opq04/fZEUpYszwLQlO1Fugo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=c4Se6Meue77mIvEwiafv4WtLba/RW6Elvl6vEvRLJZoRaXm3w1mOSzsu3qZ55x0wJS zAJttczlavw00oLKHrwnktfkZBctVk+56wKiwo3IJpEKBd/WIszn5mtHGD7mAH7dBBTm nKU581qCKybJi9UWLEUD5u5BwaDfjkhvO1sDk= Received: by 10.100.228.17 with SMTP id a17mr7024575anh.75.1217427823546; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.112.16 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:23:43 -0700 From: "Greg Shepherd" To: fecframe@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress some other issues as well. Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively central. Sept 15 week (early) Sept 22 week (early) Oct 20 week Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this into our rapidly filling schedules. Thanks again, Greg _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 08:46:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92B428C283; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069AF3A6C26 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FzZHWtiPJK8l for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB4C3A6BFD for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so61456rvf.49 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oj63J51vZTgCosir9oWllj6bt5WNp7F+p2l+a2EZEuQ=; b=n30PsP7jm86OBU+7yYHuryKiUEaJpYv/NNclpTkKWfk8oOvgHPkRKR4cO4s7XHaWg0 WBQMidNAtSZbBUJjtnpOMSHlZnqQ0VjFK7Ocoa5yBeb+mKKjve50Oy2cqUlbGZQm2vby NHsJ4iiya0FEFxOF76JrY/R6pPbHuxbTRErPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hJ2xZWSth7l4kphrwXhJP62caYwLx7fOiXTBTMuJq6yryeEofgE+JnvzRFhfCYavxf s6l07rjaWHGXhwr9HVVEd9DRBwxmqkwVzV5EhnwTl2RHf5te0uYr1fSzjKSCyh4m9CJZ 1xl3dtsIU8qt3Wgzvq+aejRltO1YvwKfgrkho= Received: by 10.141.172.6 with SMTP id z6mr4426009rvo.47.1217432811311; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.85.12 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241bc2150807300846n122df844k3af7289873e00dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ula=BA_C._Kozat?=" To: "Greg Shepherd" In-Reply-To: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0218107071==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org --===============0218107071== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_50737_20738799.1217432811257" ------=_Part_50737_20738799.1217432811257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct 20. My home location is Santa Clara, CA. Ulas On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > some other issues as well. > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively > central. > > Sept 15 week (early) > Sept 22 week (early) > Oct 20 week > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > Thanks again, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > ------=_Part_50737_20738799.1217432811257 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22.  I can make it on Oct  20. My home location is Santa Clara, CA.

Ulas

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant
progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress
some other issues as well.

Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an
interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to
specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues.

Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your
preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively
central.

Sept 15 week (early)
Sept 22 week (early)
Oct 20 week

Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this
into our rapidly filling schedules.

Thanks again,
Greg
_______________________________________________
Fecframe mailing list
Fecframe@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe

------=_Part_50737_20738799.1217432811257-- --===============0218107071== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe --===============0218107071==-- From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 09:11:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B9E3A6979; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AF73A68FD for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H0fwQJtdutJc for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8863A6979 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,279,1215388800"; d="scan'208,217";a="91230900" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2008 16:11:55 +0000 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m6UGBs4X025687; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:54 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6UGBspv029735; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:11:54 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.169]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:54 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:54 -0700 Message-ID: <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5406618485@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting thread-index: AcjyW6JxUL3ZByOOT5Opi+l0pvvyjgAA1ko/ From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" To: "Ulas C. Kozat" , "Greg Shepherd" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2008 16:11:54.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBC92450:01C8F25E] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=3871; t=1217434314; x=1218298314; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20C.=20Begen=20(abegen)=22=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Fecframe]=20Interim=20Working=20Group= 20Meeting |Sender:=20; bh=X5Vz6hEHeZqnmxn/Oc//IxRYymYAz2VbLeLoea7SB1Y=; b=RHhymd2K6F9e5fbzYtBhvU0KnaB6vEjuaJvq61cvqLNFPfyQvYX0ctJV4z jq8SjTxijxOPMICCD0111aBMf2/NIwULNkOMhei/70AAxySH91OQ+3XMeoQN 7vlf/YzS+X; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1889507977==" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1889507977== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8F25E.FB80126C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F25E.FB80126C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Week of October 20th in bay area (san jose, ca to be more specific) -acbegen -----Original Message----- From: Ulas C. Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:47 AM Pacific Standard Time To: Greg Shepherd Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct 20. My home location is Santa Clara, CA. Ulas On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > some other issues as well. > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively > central. > > Sept 15 week (early) > Sept 22 week (early) > Oct 20 week > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > Thanks again, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F25E.FB80126C Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting

Week of October 20th in bay area (san jose, ca to be = more specific)
-acbegen

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Ulas C. Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com]
= Sent:   Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:47 AM Pacific Standard = Time
To:     Greg Shepherd
Cc:     fecframe@ietf.org
Subject:        Re: [Fecframe] = Interim Working Group Meeting

I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22.  I can make it on Oct  20. = My home
location is Santa Clara, CA.

Ulas

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> = wrote:

> Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made = significant
> progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to = progress
> some other issues as well.
>
> Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have = an
> interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to
> specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues.
>
> Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with = your
> preference, your home location to help us choose something = relatively
> central.
>
> Sept 15 week (early)
> Sept 22 week (early)
> Oct 20 week
>
> Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit = this
> into our rapidly filling schedules.
>
> Thanks again,
> Greg
> _______________________________________________
> Fecframe mailing list
> Fecframe@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.= org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe
>

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Begen (abegen)" To: "Marshall Eubanks" , =?iso-8859-2?Q?=22Ula=BA_C=2E_Kozat=22?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2008 16:31:30.0479 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8B6B3F0:01C8F261] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2417; t=1217435491; x=1218299491; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim7002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=abegen@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Ali=20C.=20Begen=20(abegen)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Fecframe]=20Interim=20Working=20Group= 20Meeting |Sender:=20; bh=yMRqcsUA5C2FvzGzaDdvNNa7uFEtMhRbwOtwRazIPQ4=; b=SeeANg5NDyPVe5ANvQTpKKLS7KkemKqJ/c8wvea63i+krctaauWOvYP1fz vSwBGt9cgarxP68X/3GXoCRkQRDwNP4NfGYxK5bXd5qLt3iCopTcGRnpNFdw +mLBug6wCb; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-7; header.From=abegen@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim7002 verified; ); Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Any day during the week of oct 20th works for me. And palo alto works for m= e, too. -acbegen = > -----Original Message----- > From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org = > [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:26 PM > To: "Ula=BA C. Kozat" > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > = > I can make any of these dates. > = > Stephan Wenger has graciously offered to host us in Palo = > Alto, although that will have to be confirmed once we get a date. > = > Note that the dates quoted are all Mondays. Our meeting will = > be ~ 2 days long, and I would suggest that we actually do it = > Tuesday - Wednesday if we can, so please indicate if you have = > conflicts during the week as well. > = > Regards > Marshall > = > On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Ula=BA C. Kozat wrote: > = > > I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct = > 20. My home = > > location is Santa Clara, CA. > > > > Ulas > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd > > wrote: > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made = > significant = > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress = > > some other issues as well. > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an = > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to = > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your = > > preference, your home location to help us choose something = > relatively = > > central. > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > Sept 22 week (early) > > Oct 20 week > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this = > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > Thanks again, > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > = > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > = _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 09:52:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CB628C3A9; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F5028C386 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7dasb4hADuX for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server515.appriver.com (server515h.exghost.com [72.32.253.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15D628C0F5 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.2.0) with PIPE id 59007545; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:52:46 -0500 Received: from FE1.exchange.rackspace.com ([72.32.49.5] verified) by server515.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 59007537; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:52:46 -0500 Received: from 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.68]) by FE1.exchange.rackspace.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:52:53 -0500 Received: from 76.222.192.62 ([76.222.192.62]) by 34093-EVS4C1.exchange.rackspace.com ([192.168.1.58]) via Exchange Front-End Server owa.mailseat.com ([192.168.1.62]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:52:53 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:50 -0700 From: Mark Watson To: Greg Shepherd , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting Thread-Index: AcjyZLNe8eCvXF5XEd2nkgAX8sJN9g== In-Reply-To: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2008 16:52:53.0740 (UTC) FILETIME=[B598CAC0:01C8F264] X-Policy: GLOBAL - UNKNOWN X-Policy: GLOBAL - UNKNOWN X-Primary: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: FCH-SI:0/SG:0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: 1, 192.168.1.68, Ugly c=0.81462 p=-0.998525 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-3369-c X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->PRIVATE->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 72.32.49.5 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: fe1.exchange.rackspace.com X-Note-WHTLIST: mark@digitalfountain.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 82 83 84 85 89 90 158 X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Any of those times are ok for me. Bay Area preferred. ...Mark On 7/30/08 7:23 AM, "Greg Shepherd" wrote: > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > some other issues as well. > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively > central. > > Sept 15 week (early) > Sept 22 week (early) > Oct 20 week > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > Thanks again, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 10:18:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED013A6C28; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8053A6C28 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C55u5-UFv58N for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stewe.org (stewe.org [85.214.122.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30773A695D for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.22.224] (unverified [130.129.22.224]) by stewe.org (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 55541-1743317 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:17:54 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.11.0.080522 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:17:45 +0100 From: Stephan Wenger To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting Thread-Index: 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Home Location - RTP, NC > Sept 15 week (early) > Sept 22 week (early) > Oct 20 week Oct 20 week would be preferrable. Cheers, Rajiv > -----Original Message----- > From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > fecframe-request@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:53 PM > To: fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: Fecframe Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7 > > Send Fecframe mailing list submissions to > fecframe@ietf.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fecframe-request@ietf.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fecframe-owner@ietf.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fecframe digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Interim Working Group Meeting (Greg Shepherd) > 2. Re: Interim Working Group Meeting ( Ula? C. Kozat ) > 3. Re: Interim Working Group Meeting (Ali C. Begen (abegen)) > 4. Re: Interim Working Group Meeting (Marshall Eubanks) > 5. Re: Interim Working Group Meeting (Ali C. Begen (abegen)) > 6. Re: Interim Working Group Meeting (Mark Watson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:23:43 -0700 > From: "Greg Shepherd" > Subject: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: fecframe@ietf.org > Message-ID: > <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > some other issues as well. > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively > central. > > Sept 15 week (early) > Sept 22 week (early) > Oct 20 week > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > Thanks again, > Greg > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0700 > From: " Ula? C. Kozat " > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: "Greg Shepherd" > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Message-ID: > <241bc2150807300846n122df844k3af7289873e00dc@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct 20. My home > location is Santa Clara, CA. > > Ulas > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: > > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > > some other issues as well. > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > > preference, your home location to help us choose something > relatively > > central. > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > Sept 22 week (early) > > Oct 20 week > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > Thanks again, > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 34e4fb9/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:11:54 -0700 > From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: "Ulas C. Kozat" , "Greg Shepherd" > > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Message-ID: > > <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5406618485@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Week of October 20th in bay area (san jose, ca to be more specific) > -acbegen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ulas C. Kozat [mailto:ulas.kozat@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 08:47 AM Pacific Standard Time > To: Greg Shepherd > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > > I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct 20. My home > location is Santa Clara, CA. > > Ulas > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: > > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > > some other issues as well. > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > > preference, your home location to help us choose something > relatively > > central. > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > Sept 22 week (early) > > Oct 20 week > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > Thanks again, > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > 5bd4417/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:25:56 -0400 > From: Marshall Eubanks > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: "Ula? C. Kozat" > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I can make any of these dates. > > Stephan Wenger has graciously offered to host us in Palo Alto, > although that will have to be > confirmed once we get a date. > > Note that the dates quoted are all Mondays. Our meeting will be ~ 2 > days long, and I would suggest > that we actually do it Tuesday - Wednesday if we can, so please > indicate if you have conflicts during the > week as well. > > Regards > Marshall > > On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Ula? C. Kozat wrote: > > > I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct 20. My > > home location is Santa Clara, CA. > > > > Ulas > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd > > wrote: > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > > some other issues as well. > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > > preference, your home location to help us choose something > relatively > > central. > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > Sept 22 week (early) > > Oct 20 week > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > Thanks again, > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:31:12 -0700 > From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: "Marshall Eubanks" , "Ula? C. Kozat" > > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > Message-ID: > > <04CAD96D4C5A3D48B1919248A8FE0D5407803E32@xmb-sjc-215.amer.cisco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Any day during the week of oct 20th works for me. And palo > alto works for me, too. > > -acbegen > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:fecframe-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:26 PM > > To: "Ula? C. Kozat" > > Cc: fecframe@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > > > > I can make any of these dates. > > > > Stephan Wenger has graciously offered to host us in Palo > > Alto, although that will have to be confirmed once we get a date. > > > > Note that the dates quoted are all Mondays. Our meeting will > > be ~ 2 days long, and I would suggest that we actually do it > > Tuesday - Wednesday if we can, so please indicate if you have > > conflicts during the week as well. > > > > Regards > > Marshall > > > > On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Ula? C. Kozat wrote: > > > > > I cannot make it on Sep 15 and 22. I can make it on Oct > > 20. My home > > > location is Santa Clara, CA. > > > > > > Ulas > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Greg Shepherd > > > wrote: > > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made > > significant > > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to > progress > > > some other issues as well. > > > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list > with your > > > preference, your home location to help us choose something > > relatively > > > central. > > > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > > Sept 22 week (early) > > > Oct 20 week > > > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can > fit this > > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fecframe mailing list > > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fecframe mailing list > > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:52:50 -0700 > From: Mark Watson > Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting > To: Greg Shepherd , > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Any of those times are ok for me. Bay Area preferred. > > ...Mark > > > On 7/30/08 7:23 AM, "Greg Shepherd" wrote: > > > Thanks to those who participated today. We actually made significant > > progress on a number of issues, which exposed the need to progress > > some other issues as well. > > > > Magnus has given us the approval (or did he task us?) to have an > > interim FECFrame working group meeting before Minneapolis to > > specifically work on FECFrame framework and transport issues. > > > > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > > preference, your home location to help us choose something > relatively > > central. > > > > Sept 15 week (early) > > Sept 22 week (early) > > Oct 20 week > > > > Let's work to get this scheduled quickly to ensure we can fit this > > into our rapidly filling schedules. > > > > Thanks again, > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > Fecframe mailing list > > Fecframe@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fecframe mailing list > Fecframe@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe > > > End of Fecframe Digest, Vol 30, Issue 7 > *************************************** > _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jul 30 11:11:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08783A6972; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CF43A68C7 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d318kTmtlsvN for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4F83A68C5 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id C012620A1C; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:11:57 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-af09dbb00000193b-9c-4890aeed7534 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id ABBF320E9A; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:11:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.175]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:11:53 +0200 Received: from [153.88.49.29] ([153.88.49.29]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:11:53 +0200 Message-ID: <4890AEE9.8080003@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:11:53 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Shepherd References: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <38c19b540807300723q22c45c7dr51584824ff28b95d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2008 18:11:53.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[BEBEB500:01C8F26F] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: fecframe@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Fecframe] Interim Working Group Meeting X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org > Here are three proposed dates. Please respond to the list with your > preference, your home location to help us choose something relatively > central. > = > Sept 15 week (early) Works, really likes to be able to have return to Sweden on Friday, i.e. = if West Coast, leave Thursday. > Sept 22 week (early) Works without exceptions. > Oct 20 week Not a good week. Home location: Stockholm, Sweden Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 8 4048287 F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Fax +46 8 7575550 S-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe From fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jul 31 11:22:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fecframe-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-fecframe-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613A428C2AB; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: fecframe@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041EF28C273 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:22:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.538 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.538 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=2.077, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DJN1rdaDY7gt for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from multicasttech.com (lennon.multicasttech.com [63.105.122.7]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135FB28C15A for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 12311790 for fecframe@ietf.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:20 -0400 Message-Id: From: Marshall Eubanks To: fecframe@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:22:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Subject: [Fecframe] RFC 2733 / 5109 & SMPTE 2022-1 X-BeenThere: fecframe@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of FEC Framework List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: fecframe-bounces@ietf.org Since I did not have time to prepare slides on this for the meeting, I thought I would send this to the list to inform people who were not able to be present about what is going on. There has been a series of discussions about the obsoleting of RFC 2733 by RFC 5109, and the effects of that on the SMPTE 2022-1 standard, which uses RFC 2733 as a normative reference. As a result of these discussions, we will move to "unobsolete" RFC2733, with Colin Perkins, Magnus Westerlund and myself taking the lead on that. I think that this has helped our image in these standards bodies and look forward in working with the VSF and SMPTE to meet the needs of high rate HD video. Regards Marshall _______________________________________________ Fecframe mailing list Fecframe@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/fecframe