From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 1 21:18:53 2000 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA20105; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29488; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id SAA21181; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0.Gamma0+Sun/8.10.0.Gamma0) id e222I0o27358 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail4 [129.144.134.6]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0.Gamma0+Sun/8.10.0.Gamma0) with ESMTP id e222Hq927351 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id SAA29636 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from drawbridge.ascend.com (drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24178 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw-ext.ascend.com (fw-ext [198.4.92.5]) by drawbridge.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA23229 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from russet.ascend.com by fw-ext.ascend.com via smtpd (for drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 02:17:11 UT Received: from spud.ascend.com (spud [192.207.23.51]) by russet.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20987; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from amalis ([152.148.173.121]) by spud.ascend.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22597; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:17:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000301210937.0278ada0@alpo.casc.com> X-Sender: amalis@alpo.casc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:17:04 -0500 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) 47th IETF-ADELAIDE, AUSTRALIA: FRNETMIB agenda change Cc: amalis@lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ frnetmibers, I just received word that frnetmib has been moved from Monday to Tuesday at 1300-1515, due to other conflicts that needed to be juggled. The good news is that we've gained an extra 15 minutes! PS - please keep those agenda requests coming. Thanks, Andy ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 8 17:43:22 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA03815 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.6]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15048; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:43:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA14241; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) id e28MfQR06150 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e28MfKw06143 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA26177 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.visualnetworks.com ([208.22.72.43]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13887 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:41:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from shemp by mail.visualnetworks.com via smtpd (for lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 22:44:57 UT Received: by shemp.visualnetworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1ZTD4AR2>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8A97@shemp.visualnetworks.com> From: "Rehbehn, Kenneth" To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Cc: narten@raleigh.ibm.com, nordmark@eng.sun.com, randy@psg.com, dperkins@dsperkins.com, Orly_n@rad.co.il, gvm@att.com, fowler@syndesis.com, amalis@lucent.com, "'Andrew G. Malis'" , "'Bert Wijnen'" , "Rehbehn, Kenneth" Subject: (FRNETMIB) draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt and draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib -10.txt Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:41:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ I have posted new drafts to the I-D editor. These drafts reflect changes made in response to comments received from the IESG review process. The FRS MIB has the most substantial changes. To aid in evaluation of the changes I have created a color coded DIFF report that shows, line-by-line, which lines have changed since the last version. This .pdf report as well as the .txt file sent to the I-D editor can be found in: ftp://ftp.visualnetworks.com/Pub/IETF/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.zip ftp://ftp.visualnetworks.com/Pub/IETF/draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.zip Both MIBs have passed smicng compilation using the latest version of the smicng compiler. Regards, Ken --------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Rehbehn Phone: +1-301-296-2325 Visual Networks Fax: +1-301-296-2302 2092 Gaither Rd EMail: krehbehn@visualnetworks.com Rockville, MD 20850 http://www.visualnetworks.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. 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This draft is a work item of the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Author(s) : K. Rehbehn, D. Fowler Filename : draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt Pages : 89 Date : 09-Mar-00 This memo defines an extension to the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. In particular, it defines objects for managing the frame relay service. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Fri Mar 10 06:58:44 2000 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA28688; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12396; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id DAA17574; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) id e2ABRFt07405 for frnetmib-dist; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2ABR4w07396 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id DAA10223 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11056 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA27959; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:27:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003101127.GAA27959@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: (FRNETMIB) I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:27:01 -0500 Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Frame Relay Service MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the Frame Relay/ATM PVC Service Interworking Function Author(s) : K. Rehbehn, O. Nicklass, G. Mouradian Filename : draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt Pages : 51 Date : 09-Mar-00 This memo defines a Management Information Base (MIB) to configure, monitor, and control a service interworking function (IWF) for Permanent Virtual Connections (PVC) between Frame Relay and Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM) technologies. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt". 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 15 19:55:13 2000 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA25277; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17551; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id QAA28620; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) id e2G0sb311531 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail4 [129.144.134.6]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2G0sVw11524 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id QAA11699 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.visualnetworks.com ([208.22.72.43]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA21022 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:54:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from shemp by mail.visualnetworks.com via smtpd (for lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2000 00:58:21 UT Received: by shemp.visualnetworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:54:24 -0500 Message-ID: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8AD1@shemp.visualnetworks.com> From: "Rehbehn, Kenneth" To: "'frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com'" Cc: "'narten@raleigh.ibm.com'" , "'nordmark@eng.sun.com'" , "'randy@psg.com'" , "'dperkins@dsperkins.com'" , "'Orly_n@rad.co.il'" , "'gvm@att.com'" , "'fowler@syndesis.com'" , "'amalis@lucent.com'" , "'Andrew G. Malis'" , "'Bert Wijnen'" , "Rehbehn, Kenneth" Subject: (FRNETMIB) Technical Error - frLportFragSize range in draft-ietf-frnetmib-fr s-mib-10.txt Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:54:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ As I was examining the RFC-Editor bound draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt I noticed a technical error. The size range for a single fragment frLportFragSize exceeds the accepted limit for the FCS defined in Q.922. We should use the same size range (1..4096) as the other max frame size objects (e.g. frPVCEndptInMaxFrameSize). I would like to see an RFC-Editor instruction to make this change. Comments to the list to determine consensus or identify problems would be appreciated. Regards, Ken --------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Rehbehn Phone: +1-301-296-2325 Visual Networks Fax: +1-301-296-2302 2092 Gaither Rd EMail: krehbehn@visualnetworks.com Rockville, MD 20850 http://www.visualnetworks.com X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 15 20:25:34 2000 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA06791; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28169; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id RAA03708; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) id e2G1PAV11608 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.0+Sun/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e2G1P4w11601 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id RAA25053; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from elara.syndesis.com (elara.syndesis.com [204.191.106.2]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA02792; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:25:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from news@localhost) by elara.syndesis.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) id UAA28804; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:23:56 -0500 Received: from unknown(192.1.1.20) by elara.syndesis.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028769; Wed Mar 15 20:23:46 2000 Received: from syndesis.com ([192.168.15.132]) by syndesis.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02643; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:24:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D03756.74F225E4@syndesis.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:22:31 -0500 From: David Fowler Organization: Syndesis Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rehbehn, Kenneth" CC: "'frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com'" , "'narten@raleigh.ibm.com'" , "'nordmark@eng.sun.com'" , "'randy@psg.com'" , "'dperkins@dsperkins.com'" , "'Orly_n@rad.co.il'" , "'gvm@att.com'" , "'amalis@lucent.com'" , "'Bert Wijnen'" Subject: Re: (FRNETMIB) Technical Error - frLportFragSize range in draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt References: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8AD1@shemp.visualnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds good to me. David "Rehbehn, Kenneth" wrote: > As I was examining the RFC-Editor bound draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt I > noticed a technical error. The size range for a single fragment > frLportFragSize exceeds the accepted limit for the FCS defined in Q.922. We > should use the same size range (1..4096) as the other max frame size objects > (e.g. frPVCEndptInMaxFrameSize). > > I would like to see an RFC-Editor instruction to make this change. Comments > to the list to determine consensus or identify problems would be > appreciated. > > Regards, > Ken > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Ken Rehbehn Phone: +1-301-296-2325 > Visual Networks Fax: +1-301-296-2302 > 2092 Gaither Rd EMail: krehbehn@visualnetworks.com > Rockville, MD 20850 http://www.visualnetworks.com > X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with > X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. 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Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) frnetmib agenda for Adelaide Cc: amalis@lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) Tuesday, March 28 2000, 1300 - 1515, Room 8&9 ============================================= Chair: Andy Malis AGENDA: 1. Administrivia, current documents status 2. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.13/frf13.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-serv http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service- 00.txt 3. Prayson Pate, Bob Lynch, and Ken Rehbehn, draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.16/frf16.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-00.txt 4. Ken Rehbehn, recent updates to draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service To prepare, please see the following: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt 5. 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Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) Resend: frnetmib Adelaide agenda Cc: amalis@lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Hmmmm ... my first attempt at this mangled one of the URLs. If at first you don't succeed: -------- Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) Tuesday, March 28 2000, 1300 - 1515, Room 8&9 ============================================= Chair: Andy Malis AGENDA: 1. Administrivia, current documents status 2. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.13/frf13.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt 3. Prayson Pate, Bob Lynch, and Ken Rehbehn, draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.16/frf16.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-00.txt 4. Ken Rehbehn, recent updates to draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service To prepare, please see the following: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt 5. 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Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) Updated frnetmib agenda (third time the charm?) Cc: agenda@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ The mfr mib was just updated on the server. Here's the updated agenda. Thanks, Andy ------ Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) Tuesday, March 28 2000, 1300 - 1515, Room 8&9 ============================================= Chair: Andy Malis AGENDA: 1. Administrivia, current documents status 2. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.13/frf13.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt 3. Prayson Pate, Bob Lynch, and Ken Rehbehn, draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-01.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function To prepare, please see the following: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.16/frf16.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-01.txt 4. Ken Rehbehn, recent updates to draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service To prepare, please see the following: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt 5. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 22 08:02:58 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA05921; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29227; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:00:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id EAA24200; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2MCxhg17745 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:59:43 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Taher Shaikh" To: Subject: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:49:32 -0800 Message-ID: <001101bf937f$57e1d1d0$9860f2cf@vinatech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I want to know about following variables from RFC1604 what it means and what are the possible values - In frLportTable what is the value used for frLportVCSigPointer - In frAccountPVCTable what does it mean by frAccountPVCSegmentSize - In frAccountLportTable what does it mean by frAccountLportSegmentSize Thanks in advance Taher X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 22 13:23:14 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03092; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24527; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:21:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA03820; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2MILLa17880 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2MILFN17873 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA03739 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.visualnetworks.com ([208.22.72.43]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23918 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:21:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from shemp by mail.visualnetworks.com via smtpd (for lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) with SMTP; 22 Mar 2000 18:25:39 UT Received: by shemp.visualnetworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:21:07 -0500 Message-ID: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8AFA@shemp.visualnetworks.com> From: "Rehbehn, Kenneth" To: "'taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com'" Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:21:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ > I want to know about following variables from RFC1604 what > it means and > what are the possible values > - In frLportTable what is the value used for frLportVCSigPointer This object has been marked "Obsolete" in draft-ieft-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt. My belief is that the RFC 1604 anticipated multiple types of PVC signaling schemes, each with a distinct table of configuration parameters. The reality has been that we have a single table for signaling parameters. Each vendor has their own interpetation of what OBJECT IDENTIFIER gets plugged in as a value but I suspect that the OID for frMgtVCSigTable would make the most sense. > - In frAccountPVCTable what does it mean by frAccountPVCSegmentSize > - In frAccountLportTable what does it mean by frAccountLportSegmentSize Usage-based accounting techniques for packet networks frequently report "segment" counts, where a segment represents 1 to N octets of payload. If N is 5000 and the connection flows 15500 octets then the segment count I get billed for is 3 (depending on the tariff rules - I could get billed for 4 if the tariff says round-up). The segment size establishes the value N. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Mar 23 13:47:10 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA29305; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:47:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28046; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:45:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA11066; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2NIim918870 for frnetmib-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2NIihN18863 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA10928 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from vina-tech.com (vina-tech.com [207.242.96.1]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27473 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:44:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from tshaikhnt (tshaikh.vina-tech.com [207.242.96.152]) by vina-tech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA51785; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:35:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com) Reply-To: From: "Taher Shaikh" To: "'Rehbehn, Kenneth'" Cc: Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:45:21 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bf94f7$f1ef5490$9860f2cf@vinatech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8AFA@shemp.visualnetworks.com> Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Thanks for the reply Please let me know what the following means frMgtVCSigProced Thanks Taher -----Original Message----- From: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com [mailto:owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com]On Behalf Of Rehbehn, Kenneth Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:21 AM To: 'taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com' Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 > I want to know about following variables from RFC1604 what > it means and > what are the possible values > - In frLportTable what is the value used for frLportVCSigPointer This object has been marked "Obsolete" in draft-ieft-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt. My belief is that the RFC 1604 anticipated multiple types of PVC signaling schemes, each with a distinct table of configuration parameters. The reality has been that we have a single table for signaling parameters. Each vendor has their own interpetation of what OBJECT IDENTIFIER gets plugged in as a value but I suspect that the OID for frMgtVCSigTable would make the most sense. > - In frAccountPVCTable what does it mean by frAccountPVCSegmentSize > - In frAccountLportTable what does it mean by frAccountLportSegmentSize Usage-based accounting techniques for packet networks frequently report "segment" counts, where a segment represents 1 to N octets of payload. If N is 5000 and the connection flows 15500 octets then the segment count I get billed for is 3 (depending on the tariff rules - I could get billed for 4 if the tariff says round-up). The segment size establishes the value N. 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From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Mar 23 13:59:05 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03909; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05757; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:55:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA16362; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2NIqqc18903 for frnetmib-dist; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2NIqlN18896 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id KAA10986 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.visualnetworks.com ([208.22.72.43]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03882 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:52:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from shemp by mail.visualnetworks.com via smtpd (for lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) with SMTP; 23 Mar 2000 18:57:07 UT Received: by shemp.visualnetworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: <0F9AE864A5ECD011B3100060977F354A019E8B02@shemp.visualnetworks.com> From: "Rehbehn, Kenneth" To: "'taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com'" Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:52:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Check the enhanced DESCRIPTION clause for the frMgtVCSigProced in draft-ieft-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt. I believe I answer the question you ask and, if you need more information about the various ways of operating the status procedures, I added a REFERENCE pointer to the base documents that describe the procedures. Cheers, Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Taher Shaikh [mailto:taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:45 PM > To: 'Rehbehn, Kenneth' > Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com > Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 > > > Hi > Thanks for the reply > Please let me know what the following means > frMgtVCSigProced > Thanks > Taher > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com > [mailto:owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com]On Behalf Of > Rehbehn, Kenneth > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:21 AM > To: 'taher.shaikh@vina-tech.com' > Cc: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com > Subject: RE: (FRNETMIB) queries rfc1604 > > > > I want to know about following variables from RFC1604 what > > it means and > > what are the possible values > > - In frLportTable what is the value used for frLportVCSigPointer > > This object has been marked "Obsolete" in > draft-ieft-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt. My belief is that the RFC 1604 > anticipated multiple types of PVC signaling schemes, each > with a distinct > table of configuration parameters. The reality has been that > we have a > single table for signaling parameters. > > Each vendor has their own interpetation of what OBJECT IDENTIFIER gets > plugged in as a value but I suspect that the OID for > frMgtVCSigTable would > make the most sense. > > > > - In frAccountPVCTable what does it mean by > frAccountPVCSegmentSize > > - In frAccountLportTable what does it mean by > frAccountLportSegmentSize > > Usage-based accounting techniques for packet networks > frequently report > "segment" counts, where a segment represents 1 to N octets of > payload. If N > is 5000 and the connection flows 15500 octets then the > segment count I get > billed for is 3 (depending on the tariff rules - I could get > billed for 4 if > the tariff says round-up). The segment size establishes the value N. > X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with > X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. > X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Tue Mar 28 18:02:25 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA27938; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.25]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03822; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:59:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA26967; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2SMwkw21896 for frnetmib-dist; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:58:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Presuhn Message-Id: <200003280836.AAA14340@dorothy.bmc.com> To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: (FRNETMIB) BOF related to FR/SLD work in Adelaide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - Thursday afternoon at 15:30 in hall A is a BOF with a topic that partially overlaps issues this working group may have dealt with in its service level work. Your input and insights would be greatly appreciated. For details, please see http://www.ietf.org/ietf/00mar/rperfman-agenda.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Randy Presuhn randy_presuhn@bmc.com http://www.bmc.com/ Voice: +1 408 546-1006 BMC Software, Inc. 1-3141 2141 N. First Street Fax: +1 408 965-0359 San Jose, California 95131 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Any relationship between my opinions and BMC's should be coincidental. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. 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Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) Draft Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) minutes Cc: amalis@lucent.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ To those of you at the meeting: please review and send comments. Thanks, Andy ---------- Draft Frame Relay Service MIB WG (frnetmib) Minutes Tuesday, March 28, 1300-1515 ============================ Chair: Andy Malis Minutes by Andy Malis 1. Administrivia, current documents status Andy presented the agenda and the current status of the documents. The only active WG document that was not already on the agenda was draft-ietf-frnetmib-atmiwf-05.txt, which is waiting for the Frame Relay Service MIB to complete due to cross-references - otherwise, it is ready to be published as an RFC. 2. Rob Steinberger and Orly Nicklass, draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions See: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.13/frf13.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service- 00.txt Rob presented the open issues from the last meeting. To address them, the document was renamed, he detailed the delay data from the sample table, got an IANA experimental ID (104), and added a capabilities object to identify which objects can be written. He also cleaned up some typos, fixed a problem in the nroff file, and some other minor changes, such as a revisions section to the MODULE, and added working group info to the contact list. The current open issues are: - typo in section 2.7.1: "dive" should be "divide" - SmplIndex should be SmplControlIndex for consistent naming - some objects have Data in their name twice to match the terminology in FRF.13. We could change it, but it wouldn't match FRF.13. We decided to not change it. Rob asked for WG last call for Proposed Standard. Ken Rehbehn felt that it should be experimental rather than PS, due to other ongoing work on service tracking MIBs. He said that it would be premature at this time to make it a Proposed Standard, until the IETF has a more mature service tracking framework. Thomas Narten said that it could be experimental for now, and it wouldn't be a big deal to change it to PS later on down the line. Peter Bodeit said that having it PS would help network operators, since it would be easier to get the functionality from vendors. It was also noted that there is currently no WG home for the service tracking MIB work. The WG consensus was to go for PS and revisit the issue when it comes time to advance the MIB to Draft Standard, to see if it needs updating based upon activities elsewhere in the IETF. Thomas gave advice on how to get an assignment in the MIB II branch (you make it clear in the MIB text that the assignment is required). 3. Prayson Pate, Bob Lynch, and Ken Rehbehn, draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-01.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Monitoring and Controlling the UNI/NNI Multilink Frame Relay Function See: http://www.frforum.com/5000/Approved/FRF.16/frf16.pdf http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-mfrmib-00.txt Version -01, the current version, was sent out on 3/17. The authors would like to go to next week's FRF meeting, collect any comments there, and then ask for last call. Changes from last time were: - minor formatting fixes - added ranges, REFERENCE, and UNITs where needed - returned a deleted object, the number of links in a bundle - clarified dependencies of the creation operation. There is no more functionality that should be added. It's had about three spins for review. Orly had some comments and questions on the MIB that she will send to the email list. It will go for last call following the FRF meeting and the resolution of Orly's comments. 4. Ken Rehbehn, recent updates to draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt, Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service See: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frs-mib-10.txt This MIB completed WG last call on 11/30, the IESG last call issued 12/8, Erik Nordmark's comments came on 12/30, Dave Perkin's comments came on 1/5, and a new revision was issued on 3/8. The minor changes from -09 were: many editorial modifications, completeness of REFERENCES, size ranges, move comments into DESCRIPTION clauses, and combined the lists of changes since RFC 1604 into a single complete list. More significant changes: removed the "stack" picture, which was replaced by more explicit text; removed the frLportVCSigPointerAdmin object; changed the notification OBJECT IDENTIFIER to avoid conflict with the obsolete trap; and reorganized the compliance groups. Ken gave a comprehensive description of the changes in the compliance groups. Andy discussed the fact that since new requirements have been added to the compliance groups, the FR service MIB will most probably have to recycled at Proposed rather than advanced to Draft. This is mostly a result of the new frPVCConnectStatusNotif NOTIFICATION. There is one last issue that needs resolution: frLportFragSize Integer32 (0..8184) will be changed to have a maximum size of 4096 to make it consistent with other MIBs. Ken's question: should he spin a new draft with these changes, and should there be second WG last call? We felt a second WG last call was not necessary. Ken is going to spin a version -11 to have a clean text for the IESG and the RFC Editor. 5. Open discussion With no further discussion, we adjourned. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. Malis amalis@lucent.com phone:978 952-7414 fax:978 392-2074 Lucent Technologies 1 Robbins Road Westford, MA 01886 X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 29 17:21:56 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA25056; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.6]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06793; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:19:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA05283; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2TMIjO22808 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail3 [129.144.170.5]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2TMIdN22801 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA21740 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from satori.is.paradyne.com (services.paradyne.com [135.90.253.90]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27777 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.eng.paradyne.com ([135.26.1.14]) by satori.is.paradyne.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA7075; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:20:13 -0500 Received: from eng.paradyne.com ([135.90.91.2]) by hermes.eng.paradyne.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14084; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38E280E6.7A89D3E4@eng.paradyne.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:17:11 -0500 From: "Robert A. Steinberger" Reply-To: rsteinberger@paradyne.com Organization: Paradyne Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com" CC: abierman@cisco.com, waldbusser@ins.com Subject: (FRNETMIB) RMON Interface proposal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, We were requested to submit a draft that allows DLCIs to be treated as interfaces. This will allow frame relay interworking with RMON at the circuit level. The draft will do the following: 1. Show the mapping of the DLCI ifIndex to the OID of the DLCI from either the endpoint or circuit tables of the Service or DTE MIB. 2. Show the mapping of the DLCI from either the endpoint or circuit tables to the DLCI ifIndex (inverse mapping). 3. Allow users to select with DLCIs will have ifIndices generated for them such that we only have ifIndices for the RMON monitored DLCIs. 4. Explain how the objects in the interface table work for a DLCI. 5. Explain how the stack table works for the new ifIndex. I will submit a draft shortly. Are there any objections or additions to this work? Rob Steinberger Paradyne Networks X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 29 17:33:47 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA25170; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.6]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17510; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:33:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA08429; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2TMWV422859 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail2 [129.146.1.25]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2TMWPN22852 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail2.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id OAA20510 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from satori.is.paradyne.com (services.paradyne.com [135.90.253.90]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16965 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from hermes.eng.paradyne.com ([135.26.1.14]) by satori.is.paradyne.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA31D; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:34:00 -0500 Received: from eng.paradyne.com ([135.90.91.2]) by hermes.eng.paradyne.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14326; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:32:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38E28422.EE0CA013@eng.paradyne.com> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:30:58 -0500 From: "Robert A. Steinberger" Reply-To: rsteinberger@paradyne.com Organization: Paradyne Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com" , amalis@lucent.com Subject: (FRNETMIB) Frame Relay SLD MIB ready for WG Last Call Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, The authors of Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service Level Definitions ( http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt ) feel that it is ready for working group last call. The current issues with the document are: * We will request IANA find the correct home for this document outside of experimental when it is submitted to the RFC Editor. This will be done with a clearly defined comment where the experimental location currently lives. * typo in section 2.7.1: "dive" should be "divide" * frsldSmplIdx should be frsldSmplCtrlIdx for consistent naming These will be handled along with any changes found in working group last call. Rob Steinberger Paradyne Networks X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message. From owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Wed Mar 29 18:20:55 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA25438; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:20:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.134.6]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22000; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:19:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id PAA18496; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) id e2TNJAY22931 for frnetmib-dist; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.10.1.Beta0+Sun/8.10.1.Beta0) with ESMTP id e2TNJ2N22924 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.31]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id PAA03319 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from drawbridge.ascend.com (drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21329 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:19:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from fw-ext.ascend.com (fw-ext [198.4.92.5]) by drawbridge.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09600; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from russet.ascend.com by fw-ext.ascend.com via smtpd (for drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) with SMTP; 29 Mar 2000 23:19:00 UT Received: from spud.ascend.com (spud [192.207.23.51]) by russet.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08709; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from amalis (mh-ppp-038.ascend.com [134.112.245.48]) by spud.ascend.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12209; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:18:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000329180557.0277e1a0@alpo.casc.com> X-Sender: amalis@alpo.casc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:16:17 -0500 To: frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com From: "Andrew G. Malis" Subject: (FRNETMIB) Re: Frame Relay SLD MIB ready for WG Last Call Cc: rsteinberger@paradyne.com, amalis@lucent.com In-Reply-To: <38E28422.EE0CA013@eng.paradyne.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com Precedence: bulk X-Info: [Un]Subscribe to majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Submissions to frnetmib@sunroof.eng.sun.com X-Info: Email archive at ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/frnetmib/ This begins WG last call on draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00.txt, to conclude 4/19. I'm giving it three weeks due to us still being at the IETF, next week's Frame Relay Forum meeting, and the Frame Relay 2000 event in Berlin the week after. As always, comments to the list. Thanks, Andy ------- At 05:30 PM 3/29/00 -0500, Robert A. Steinberger wrote: >All, > >The authors of Definitions of Managed Objects for Frame Relay Service >Level Definitions ( >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-frnetmib-frmrelay-service-00 >.txt >) feel that it is ready for working group last call. > >The current issues with the document are: > > * We will request IANA find the correct home for this document > outside of experimental when it is submitted to the RFC Editor. > This will be done with a clearly defined comment where the > experimental location currently lives. > * typo in section 2.7.1: "dive" should be "divide" > * frsldSmplIdx should be frsldSmplCtrlIdx for consistent naming > >These will be handled along with any changes found in working group last >call. > >Rob Steinberger >Paradyne Networks ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew G. Malis amalis@lucent.com phone:978 952-7414 fax:978 392-2074 Lucent Technologies 1 Robbins Road Westford, MA 01886 X-Info: To unsubscribe, email 'majordomo@sunroof.eng.sun.com' with X-Info: 'unsubscribe frnetmib' in the body of the message.