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Folks,

note Leo's message below. He sent it to the original authors, who are
not reachable under those email addresses any longer. Please, provide
Leo with an answer.

Cheers,

Gonzalo


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Vegoda
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:01 AM
> To: 'pekka.nikander@nomadiclab.com'; 'julien.ietf@laposte.net';
> 'Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr'
> Subject: ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014
>
> Dear RFC 4843 Authors,
>
> 2001:10::/28 was allocated on a temporary basis in line with the
> instructions in RFC 4843. The allocation is due to expire in March
2014 and
> we plan to remove the registration for 2001:10::/28 in April 2014.
>
> I am sending this note now, so that you know we plan to remove the
> registration. The new registration procedures for the IANA IPv6 Special
> Purpose Address Registry require IETF Review for a renewal or new
> registration and as that could take some time I thought it was best to
> provide a year's notice.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda
> ICANN/IANA



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol Working Group of t=
he IETF.

	Title           : Host Identity Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2)
	Author(s)       : Robert Moskowitz
                          Tobias Heer
                          Petri Jokela
                          Thomas R. Henderson
	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-11.txt
	Pages           : 125
	Date            : 2013-02-25

Abstract:
   This document specifies the details of the Host Identity Protocol
   (HIP).  HIP allows consenting hosts to securely establish and
   maintain shared IP-layer state, allowing separation of the identifier
   and locator roles of IP addresses, thereby enabling continuity of
   communications across IP address changes.  HIP is based on a SIGMA-
   compliant Diffie-Hellman key exchange, using public key identifiers
   from a new Host Identity namespace for mutual peer authentication.
   The protocol is designed to be resistant to denial-of-service (DoS)
   and man-in-the-middle (MitM) attacks.  When used together with
   another suitable security protocol, such as the Encapsulated Security
   Payload (ESP), it provides integrity protection and optional
   encryption for upper-layer protocols, such as TCP and UDP.

   This document obsoletes RFC 5201 and addresses the concerns raised by
   the IESG, particularly that of crypto agility.  It also incorporates
   lessons learned from the implementations of RFC 5201.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-11


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Gonzalo and Leo,=20
I believe that this issue can be addressed by submitting RFC4843-bis for IE=
SG review.  The latest draft [*] contains a proposal in the IANA Considerat=
ions section to allocate a new block to replace the experimental one. =20

My understanding is that RFC4843-bis is ready for WGLC and has no open issu=
es against it; perhaps Julien and Francis can confirm.

- Tom

[*] http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis-03.txt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:30 PM
> To: HIP
> Cc: Leo Vegoda
> Subject: [Hipsec] ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014
>=20
> Folks,
>=20
> note Leo's message below. He sent it to the original authors, who are
> not reachable under those email addresses any longer. Please, provide
> Leo with an answer.
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Gonzalo
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leo Vegoda
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:01 AM
> > To: 'pekka.nikander@nomadiclab.com'; 'julien.ietf@laposte.net';
> > 'Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr'
> > Subject: ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014
> >
> > Dear RFC 4843 Authors,
> >
> > 2001:10::/28 was allocated on a temporary basis in line with the
> > instructions in RFC 4843. The allocation is due to expire in March
> 2014 and
> > we plan to remove the registration for 2001:10::/28 in April 2014.
> >
> > I am sending this note now, so that you know we plan to remove the
> > registration. The new registration procedures for the IANA IPv6
> > Special Purpose Address Registry require IETF Review for a renewal or
> > new registration and as that could take some time I thought it was
> > best to provide a year's notice.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any questions.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Leo Vegoda
> > ICANN/IANA
>=20
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Gonzalo,

I closed the last remaining issues from WGLC on the 5201-bis draft, and pos=
ted a new revision (-11) today.

It seems to me that the following two drafts are ready for IESG review:
- RFC 5201-bis
- RFC 5202-bis

We need RFC 4843-bis to complete the set of base specifications, but as I m=
entioned in the previous post, this appears to be ready now for WGLC and pe=
rhaps will also soon be ready for IESG review.

Could you let us know the sequence of next steps, whether to start with IES=
G review of RFC 5201/02 by themselves, or hold them until 4843-bis can also=
 be submitted with them?

As for our other drafts, my understanding of the status is as follows:
- 4423-bis has a number of unresolved comments against it; however, this is=
 not normative specification and although it has been associated with the a=
bove three in our charter milestones, I do not think it should block moving=
 forward on the other three
- Julien posted last year that bis versions of RFC5203-05 were close to bei=
ng ready for WGLC, and there was some light discussion of them and no major=
 issues seemed to be present, so it seems to me that the WG would be able t=
o review them in WGLC shortly if draft updates could be posted.=20
- Ari has been refreshing the RELOAD and native NAT traversal drafts waitin=
g for review on the base documents to clear
- we will need also to pick up the mobility, multihoming, and certs specifi=
cations, all of which I can support if we can clear the queue of the base s=
pecs

Tom



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Hi Tom,

Thanks for letting us know about this. It would be helpful if you could
update the IANA Considerations section to include all the values specified
in 2.2.1 of RFC-to-be-bonica-special-purpose-07.

Thanks,

Leo

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From: Henderson, Thomas R [mailto:thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:13 PM
To: 'Gonzalo Camarillo'; HIP
Cc: Leo Vegoda; 'Julien Laganier'; 'fdupont@isc.org'
Subject: RE: [Hipsec] ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014

Gonzalo and Leo, 
I believe that this issue can be addressed by submitting RFC4843-bis for
IESG review.  The latest draft [*] contains a proposal in the IANA
Considerations section to allocate a new block to replace the experimental
one.  

My understanding is that RFC4843-bis is ready for WGLC and has no open
issues against it; perhaps Julien and Francis can confirm.

- Tom

[*] http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis-03.txt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:30 PM
> To: HIP
> Cc: Leo Vegoda
> Subject: [Hipsec] ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014
> 
> Folks,
> 
> note Leo's message below. He sent it to the original authors, who are
> not reachable under those email addresses any longer. Please, provide
> Leo with an answer.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leo Vegoda
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:01 AM
> > To: 'pekka.nikander@nomadiclab.com'; 'julien.ietf@laposte.net';
> > 'Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr'
> > Subject: ORCHID 2001:10::/28 allocation expires in March 2014
> >
> > Dear RFC 4843 Authors,
> >
> > 2001:10::/28 was allocated on a temporary basis in line with the
> > instructions in RFC 4843. The allocation is due to expire in March
> 2014 and
> > we plan to remove the registration for 2001:10::/28 in April 2014.
> >
> > I am sending this note now, so that you know we plan to remove the
> > registration. The new registration procedures for the IANA IPv6
> > Special Purpose Address Registry require IETF Review for a renewal or
> > new registration and as that could take some time I thought it was
> > best to provide a year's notice.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any questions.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Leo Vegoda
> > ICANN/IANA
> 
> 
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Hi,

I would like to start a WGLC on the following draft. This WGLC will end
on March 12th:

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Gonzalo


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Hi,

I would like to start a WGLC on the following draft. This WGLC will end
on March 12th:

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis/

Please, send your comments to this list.

Thanks,

Gonzalo


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Hi Tom,

thanks for your email. RFC 5202bis and RFC 4843bis have not had their
WGLCs yet. I have just started both of them.

The idea was to get the IESG to review RFC 4423bis, RFC 5201bis, RFC
5202bis, and RFC 4843bis as a group. However, if RFC 4423bis is not
ready in time, we can take the other three to the IESG.

With respect to the native NAT traversal draft, it will be updated when
the base specs are stable. The RELOAD draft will be updated shortly
because I requested the approval of the base RELOAD spec yesterday.

I hope RFC5203-06bis and the multihoming draft will be ready for WGLC
after the IETF... but as usual, the accurateness of all these
estimations depends heavily on how many cycles editors and reviewers are
willing to put into this.

Cheers,

Gonzalo


On 26/02/2013 12:29 AM, Henderson, Thomas R wrote:
> Gonzalo,
> 
> I closed the last remaining issues from WGLC on the 5201-bis draft, and posted a new revision (-11) today.
> 
> It seems to me that the following two drafts are ready for IESG review:
> - RFC 5201-bis
> - RFC 5202-bis
> 
> We need RFC 4843-bis to complete the set of base specifications, but as I mentioned in the previous post, this appears to be ready now for WGLC and perhaps will also soon be ready for IESG review.
> 
> Could you let us know the sequence of next steps, whether to start with IESG review of RFC 5201/02 by themselves, or hold them until 4843-bis can also be submitted with them?
> 
> As for our other drafts, my understanding of the status is as follows:
> - 4423-bis has a number of unresolved comments against it; however, this is not normative specification and although it has been associated with the above three in our charter milestones, I do not think it should block moving forward on the other three
> - Julien posted last year that bis versions of RFC5203-05 were close to being ready for WGLC, and there was some light discussion of them and no major issues seemed to be present, so it seems to me that the WG would be able to review them in WGLC shortly if draft updates could be posted. 
> - Ari has been refreshing the RELOAD and native NAT traversal drafts waiting for review on the base documents to clear
> - we will need also to pick up the mobility, multihoming, and certs specifications, all of which I can support if we can clear the queue of the base specs
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hi,

>> Regarding whether it should be published as Informational or PS RFC, I don't have a strong opinion.  I guess I would lean towards Informational since it is not normative specification, but I would yield to whatever is best current practice in the IETF for documents such as these.
> 
> Same here.  These sorts of RFCs have traditionally been informational.  
> Don't know what the current IESG position is.

We have been having similar discussions within the IESG lately. The
current trend makes me lean towards Informational as well. When I pub
request this document, I will note that regardless of what our charter
says, we want it published as an Informational RFC.

Cheers,

Gonzalo


