From nobody Thu Feb 20 14:10:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC671A0150 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ity-0XOpBRf7 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from stl-mbsout-02.boeing.com (stl-mbsout-02.boeing.com [130.76.96.170]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C791A01DB for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by stl-mbsout-02.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_MBSOUT) with SMTP id s1KMAeot014061; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:10:40 -0600 Received: from XCH-PHX-511.sw.nos.boeing.com (xch-phx-511.sw.nos.boeing.com [10.57.37.28]) by stl-mbsout-02.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_MBSOUT) with ESMTP id s1KMAU4j013499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:10:30 -0600 Received: from XCH-BLV-308.nw.nos.boeing.com (130.247.25.220) by XCH-PHX-511.sw.nos.boeing.com (10.57.37.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.174.1; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:28 -0800 Received: from XCH-BLV-104.nw.nos.boeing.com ([169.254.4.209]) by XCH-BLV-308.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.25.220]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:10:18 -0800 From: "Henderson, Thomas R" To: "'Gonzalo Camarillo'" , HIP Thread-Topic: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis Thread-Index: AQHO1WKegxS1s4csLkalazaZsdSxvZq/ZfNw Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:10:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5270EC63.6070101@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <5270EC63.6070101@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.247.104.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/Br2F_Mx0HNzB8xPm4miXQWDSjLU Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:10:48 -0000 Gonzalo, Are there any other issues left to resolve on these drafts or can you make = the publication request? I believe that the open issues identified below h= ave all been closed. - Tom > -----Original Message----- > From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:24 AM > To: HIP > Subject: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, > 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis >=20 > Folks, >=20 > here you have a status update on the four core drafts. Note that at > this point only one of them is ready for publication request. Authors > and editors, please put some energy into this so that we can send them > to our AD shortly. >=20 >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis/ >=20 > This draft needs to be revised. The last version expired in April: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-05.txt >=20 > We agreed that this draft will be Informational (the current version > still says PS). >=20 > Given the slow progress of this draft, we will not be blocking the > other three drafts on this one. Nevertheless, we need to make some > progress with this one as well. >=20 >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis/ >=20 > This draft, which expires in a week, needs to be revised to fix a few > nits. I am hoping that a new revision of this draft will be ready for > publication request. >=20 >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis/ >=20 > This revision seems to be ready for publication request. We will > request the publication of the three drafts (4843bis, 5201bis, and > 5202bis) together, though. >=20 >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5202-bis/ >=20 > We need to add CMAC and GMAC to 5202-bis to provide a modern null > cipher. We are waiting for text from Bob. >=20 > Also, I still have not received a confirmation from all authors that > they do not know any additional IPR on the draft. I hope to get it > shortly. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Gonzalo >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From nobody Thu Feb 20 21:04:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B241A0405 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.533 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_ASCII_ART_SPACINGc=0.833, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iIlnXRnn7PF6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x231.google.com (mail-vc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E68B1A03F8 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id if11so2758727vcb.8 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wdX1sgrXjEwhDUQd5nG1w7pEC9vOND/1oPAJ/MjWgj0=; b=fzj69KNCPqH7CiLouvpxnFfrHPGsm4luMHYJVZJNFpknWvCqJGnarZlDTwJbgPIsTI hNEZfim7UOJcWgQ+eVJwv7etoz3kUi3VolliL9fTSUUoPjRd77d64MEGHB8/3NqL55Hc 3cGWD0xqF8bhAGwSiFR9QF86cFJAvwZCFrPaj9eiywm/mTRBOIx+UTlXWAGgtnvSGA60 OTL8NKs1C8qqvT3zjgESOOzFvg+Mqgu4gQOtL4aWiqSi8s0SHciwyaxDpgOmBb0XOcZ0 y5nGgwmW7vR1ffAiMdQkH4hRi/EX53KbU/gEnb4ZGExQqbEauFU6YfL9dddgJdC5+EQp BvXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.68.106 with SMTP id v10mr2875818vdt.59.1392959047283; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.87.242 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52D94171.3010601@nomadiclab.com> References: <20131211030009.544.78789.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <52B44714.2010903@nomadiclab.com> <52D806C5.1050606@nomadiclab.com> <52D94171.3010601@nomadiclab.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:04:07 -0800 Message-ID: From: Julien Laganier To: Ari Keranen Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001a1136ad2e3376c104f2e38d1e Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/SDs2sp8LhC3uefi_DIF55CFFHpQ Cc: "hipsec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-03.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 05:04:15 -0000 --001a1136ad2e3376c104f2e38d1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ari, Thanks for reviewing the draft and suggesting improvements. I have incorporated them all in the version-to-be -05, unfortunately the deadline has passed so I am attaching it below for your (and the rest of the WG) review in case you spot some errors before submission reopens. Cheers, --julien On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ari Keranen wrote: > Hi Julien, > > > On 1/17/14 5:50 AM, Julien Laganier wrote: >> >> Hi Ari, >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Ari Keranen >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Julien, >>> >>> Thanks, that looks good to me. Although reading the draft again, I was >>> wondering is it missing some text regarding the "Insufficient resources" >>> error? >> >> >> Hmm... a registration failing because of "insufficient resources" is >> quite explicit; it conveys enough information for a requester to know >> that there are no resources to create a registration at a given >> registrar. Presumably a requester would try to register at a different >> registrar if it knows one... >> >> What else would the requester need to know? > > > I mean that it looks a bit strange that there's only an error code defined > but no text at all when to use it (even if the name of the code kinda gives > it away). I would recommend to add a sentence or two about when/how to use > it. > > I spotted one (copy-paste) error in the draft, section 3.3: > > If the registrar knows the Host Identities (HIs) of all the hosts > that are allowed to use the relaying service, it SHOULD reject > registrations from unknown hosts. However, since it may be > unfeasible to pre-configure the relay with all the HIs, the relay > SHOULD also support HIP certificates [I-D.ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis] to > allow for certificate based authentication. > > This should no longer be "relaying service" and "relay" (2 instances here) > but in general the service for which one is registering for. > > In the figures, at the end of the section, I was wondering why S3 is not > announced by the registrar? Also the text is a bit unclear; almost as if RQ > would try to register for S1 and S2 even if the figure shows only S1. > > In section "4.5. REG_FAILED", it says "Failure types other than zero (0) and > one (1) have not been defined." This is obviously not true anymore. Perhaps > here would be a good place for some text on the insufficient resources error > code. > > And by the way, I guess you can have more than one REG_FAILEDs if there was > more than one failure type? 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14:40:00 +0100 Message-ID: <53075730.3000501@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:40:00 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Henderson, Thomas R" , HIP References: <5270EC63.6070101@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3RtcgnD3Y4FKTgcXURZOZLaZ9OM/i wOTx++AbZo8lS34yBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGVcW7+cvWC7SEVLW24D4wGBLkZODgkBE4kH r54yQ9hiEhfurWfrYuTiEBI4wijx4OAeKGc1o8SOJ8vBqngFtCX+rvrDBGKzCKhKLJr/iBHE ZhOwkNhy6z4LiC0qECXx88oCdoh6QYmTM5+AxUUEgiT+bdwPFOfgEBZIlfi0jB8kLCRQInGo dy7YeE6BUImL/3YzgZRICIhL9DQGgYSZBfQkplxtYYSw5SW2v53DDNGqLbH8WQvLBEbBWUiW zULSMgtJywJG5lWMHMWpxUm56UYGmxiBAXlwy2+LHYyX/9ocYpTmYFES5/341jlISCA9sSQ1 OzW1ILUovqg0J7X4ECMTB6dUA+PDX8cf7Evce8mFl+XYt8P69260/Joos2pfTv58D/vLLJsv 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:40:08 -0000 Hi, yes, I talked with Miika a dew days ago and I was under the impression that Julien was going to revise the draft once more before it was ready for be to take it. Julien, can you confirm *this* is the version you want me to pub req? Thanks, Gonzalo On 21/02/2014 12:10 AM, Henderson, Thomas R wrote: > Gonzalo, > Are there any other issues left to resolve on these drafts or can you make the publication request? I believe that the open issues identified below have all been closed. > > - Tom > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo >> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:24 AM >> To: HIP >> Subject: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, >> 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis >> >> Folks, >> >> here you have a status update on the four core drafts. Note that at >> this point only one of them is ready for publication request. Authors >> and editors, please put some energy into this so that we can send them >> to our AD shortly. >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis/ >> >> This draft needs to be revised. The last version expired in April: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-05.txt >> >> We agreed that this draft will be Informational (the current version >> still says PS). >> >> Given the slow progress of this draft, we will not be blocking the >> other three drafts on this one. Nevertheless, we need to make some >> progress with this one as well. >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis/ >> >> This draft, which expires in a week, needs to be revised to fix a few >> nits. I am hoping that a new revision of this draft will be ready for >> publication request. >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis/ >> >> This revision seems to be ready for publication request. We will >> request the publication of the three drafts (4843bis, 5201bis, and >> 5202bis) together, though. >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5202-bis/ >> >> We need to add CMAC and GMAC to 5202-bis to provide a modern null >> cipher. We are waiting for text from Bob. >> >> Also, I still have not received a confirmation from all authors that >> they do not know any additional IPR on the draft. I hope to get it >> shortly. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Gonzalo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hipsec mailing list >> Hipsec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From nobody Fri Feb 21 07:57:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7DA1A0397 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rfuI_rJ2-06M for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x229.google.com (mail-vc0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD601A02E7 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hq11so3476898vcb.14 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4Q9R2uSHPT0uYDN51lejIcyBhqBawvUcH5ZU1FFfGZY=; b=DrZX6bWl7GXz+ZZ9roqVLa3KnLCvUt3cD2kX9eZ+O38cDRuTp+0tpBchURHsHOHDnA JW3wIcO+CJorF1cdCvHM8JgWfOJu2cNsiBVKoHEYFgXV3PyV+TNdMcNaaPaLYAdrJlIF GAJz1pqLg9RE0UExvxw4S9GKBSOEBlBxl/LB0ydiJ/GZMw7jYKxpU27vqES5Vl5EUNUc cOCUncSbYQDZOcrgSZEPN2N0n7GfL6kRIXluZOyaWidVZQcAn04J18O0dQI4pjwd37k9 BvCzssUuf0MZnXLWUkkmNhihaF6NH0CSC9w0AnMeb+utSKv5OVcbrwweCnubNYrD1xvf DcVA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.247.231 with SMTP id yh7mr4405381vdc.34.1392998265771; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.87.242 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53075730.3000501@ericsson.com> References: <5270EC63.6070101@ericsson.com> <53075730.3000501@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:57:45 -0800 Message-ID: From: Julien Laganier To: Gonzalo Camarillo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/o0HNTy2l1NgkLr6yfl30ogbOf0c Cc: HIP Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:57:52 -0000 Hi Gonzalo, Yes this version (i.e., draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis-05.txt) is ready for publication request. Thanks, --julien On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Hi, > > yes, I talked with Miika a dew days ago and I was under the impression > that Julien was going to revise the draft once more before it was ready > for be to take it. > > Julien, can you confirm *this* is the version you want me to pub req? > > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > > On 21/02/2014 12:10 AM, Henderson, Thomas R wrote: >> Gonzalo, >> Are there any other issues left to resolve on these drafts or can you make the publication request? I believe that the open issues identified below have all been closed. >> >> - Tom >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On >>> Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:24 AM >>> To: HIP >>> Subject: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, >>> 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> here you have a status update on the four core drafts. Note that at >>> this point only one of them is ready for publication request. Authors >>> and editors, please put some energy into this so that we can send them >>> to our AD shortly. >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis/ >>> >>> This draft needs to be revised. The last version expired in April: >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-05.txt >>> >>> We agreed that this draft will be Informational (the current version >>> still says PS). >>> >>> Given the slow progress of this draft, we will not be blocking the >>> other three drafts on this one. Nevertheless, we need to make some >>> progress with this one as well. >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc4843-bis/ >>> >>> This draft, which expires in a week, needs to be revised to fix a few >>> nits. I am hoping that a new revision of this draft will be ready for >>> publication request. >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis/ >>> >>> This revision seems to be ready for publication request. We will >>> request the publication of the three drafts (4843bis, 5201bis, and >>> 5202bis) together, though. >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5202-bis/ >>> >>> We need to add CMAC and GMAC to 5202-bis to provide a modern null >>> cipher. We are waiting for text from Bob. >>> >>> Also, I still have not received a confirmation from all authors that >>> they do not know any additional IPR on the draft. I hope to get it >>> shortly. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Gonzalo >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hipsec mailing list >>> Hipsec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec > > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec From nobody Fri Feb 21 08:05:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490F21A0239 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X2EstbtVoVFN for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x22f.google.com (mail-vc0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BE81A01E0 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ij19so3390803vcb.6 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GbD9ccMEkioKvda41qIjYwn1J5kCUSx1a2pAKBkI0og=; b=pflnaEE/afoCfwDw3b0VIwwnas5ffmA546LGLBtXP8lrxYOZBm283FJC8Iad7Q9BfW 8jy2pvywazpq9qAD+hcPrjckWTYbeQvrU2GJtWONsimlM43orL6bE8uQLMqMxDysdnqF gGaKYWyMMF2o1AwW+zBr0n90ZYvnf8zk2EogqdtltuBfQwUOqlbimkqDfQIRYH22q+zQ yE4OmajYjUoK1ZGYzVJktv7gsgNLDflFdFOx3/DtTURCANxeRQg8UmqaWFogwJvNkdGh hZZiUw3j/Uy/HioStHBamVhkJHruj+0ZHoruqR4qI7eXfI0aoQRLDR9VNUwWa6qaZogH Ra8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.247.168 with SMTP id yf8mr4334856vdc.65.1392998725953; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.87.242 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53075730.3000501@ericsson.com> References: <5270EC63.6070101@ericsson.com> <53075730.3000501@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:05:25 -0800 Message-ID: From: Julien Laganier To: Gonzalo Camarillo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/cESLo07EBnSSoVsMmV5C29_7zR4 Cc: HIP Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Status update on the four core drafts: 4423bis, 4843bis, 5201bis, and 5202bis X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:05:38 -0000 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Hi, > > yes, I talked with Miika a dew days ago and I was under the impression > that Julien was going to revise the draft once more before it was ready > for be to take it. Miika was probably referring to draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis, currently -04, which I need to update to address Ari's comments before it is ready for publication request. I have a -05 ready that does exactly this, but we're passed the cutoff so I can't publish it on IETF website. I've uploaded at the URL below in the meantime, and will submit to IETF after I-D submission reopens. http://julien.laganier.free.fr/draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-05.txt --julien From nobody Mon Feb 24 10:03:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39901A01A7 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:03:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.253 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.253 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hrxMyKMqzP6f for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.nomadiclab.com (gw.nomadiclab.com [193.234.218.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DF81A02B0 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.nomadiclab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C1C4E722; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:03:05 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nomadiclab.com Received: from gw.nomadiclab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inside.nomadiclab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K9BPDQb_zl9e; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:03:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from tri60.nomadiclab.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by gw.nomadiclab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89DFE4E71C; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:03:04 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <530B8958.5050104@nomadiclab.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:03:04 +0200 From: Ari Keranen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Laganier References: <20131211030009.544.78789.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <52B44714.2010903@nomadiclab.com> <52D806C5.1050606@nomadiclab.com> <52D94171.3010601@nomadiclab.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/IHlsBv5XSuNWpBpXfqHi8GGsaKw Cc: "hipsec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc5203-bis-03.txt X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:03:10 -0000 Hi Julien, Looks good, thanks. One small typo in section 6: "potetially unknown hosts". Cheers, Ari On 21/02/14 07:04, Julien Laganier wrote: > Hi Ari, > > Thanks for reviewing the draft and suggesting improvements. I have > incorporated them all in the version-to-be -05, unfortunately the > deadline has passed so I am attaching it below for your (and the rest > of the WG) review in case you spot some errors before submission > reopens. > > Cheers, > > --julien > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ari Keranen wrote: >> Hi Julien, >> >> >> On 1/17/14 5:50 AM, Julien Laganier wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ari, >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Ari Keranen >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Julien, >>>> >>>> Thanks, that looks good to me. Although reading the draft again, I was >>>> wondering is it missing some text regarding the "Insufficient resources" >>>> error? >>> >>> >>> Hmm... a registration failing because of "insufficient resources" is >>> quite explicit; it conveys enough information for a requester to know >>> that there are no resources to create a registration at a given >>> registrar. Presumably a requester would try to register at a different >>> registrar if it knows one... >>> >>> What else would the requester need to know? >> >> >> I mean that it looks a bit strange that there's only an error code defined >> but no text at all when to use it (even if the name of the code kinda gives >> it away). I would recommend to add a sentence or two about when/how to use >> it. >> >> I spotted one (copy-paste) error in the draft, section 3.3: >> >> If the registrar knows the Host Identities (HIs) of all the hosts >> that are allowed to use the relaying service, it SHOULD reject >> registrations from unknown hosts. However, since it may be >> unfeasible to pre-configure the relay with all the HIs, the relay >> SHOULD also support HIP certificates [I-D.ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis] to >> allow for certificate based authentication. >> >> This should no longer be "relaying service" and "relay" (2 instances here) >> but in general the service for which one is registering for. >> >> In the figures, at the end of the section, I was wondering why S3 is not >> announced by the registrar? Also the text is a bit unclear; almost as if RQ >> would try to register for S1 and S2 even if the figure shows only S1. >> >> In section "4.5. REG_FAILED", it says "Failure types other than zero (0) and >> one (1) have not been defined." This is obviously not true anymore. Perhaps >> here would be a good place for some text on the insufficient resources error >> code. >> >> And by the way, I guess you can have more than one REG_FAILEDs if there was >> more than one failure type? The text seems to now imply only single >> REG_FAILED. >> >> Section 6 says: >> >> Registrars act on a voluntary basis and are willing to accept being a >> responder and then to create HIP associations with a number of >> previously unknown hosts. >> >> Now with the HI/cert authentication this has actually improved (you only >> potentially do things with previously unknown hosts). >> >> Otherwise I think the draft is in good shape and could move forward. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Ari >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hipsec mailing list >> Hipsec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec