From nobody Tue Jan 12 13:30:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: hops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604E61A89A8 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:30:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T9q3xvNOvMZN for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96061A89A5 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.27.103] (dynamic-94-247-222-033.catv.glattnet.ch [94.247.222.33]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 201F51A0023; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:30:45 +0100 (CET) From: Brian Trammell X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8402ADB9-68DC-42A4-B42E-3E17878B3BC4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:30:44 +0100 Message-Id: <8B3BC21A-ADF0-4B44-9079-BF254DD790CE@trammell.ch> To: hops@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: maprg@irtf.org Subject: [hops] A new proposed RG charter, and a new mailing list X-BeenThere: hops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Measuring deployability of new transport protocols List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:30:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8402ADB9-68DC-42A4-B42E-3E17878B3BC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, all, The How Ossified is the Protocol Stack (HOPS) Proposed RG is now the = Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) proposed RG, following = discussions in Yokohama and on the list afterward (many thanks to all!) The proposed RG charter is below. Please subscribe to the new = maprg@irtf.org list at: https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) RG =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Our Internet has grown into something that differs from what was = envisioned. Its protocols sometimes operate in an environment other than than that = for which they were designed. For instance, some network elements treat some protocols differently than others and those protocols themselves are = sometimes reused and abused in ways initially unforseen. The Measurement and = Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group (RG) explores such phenomena by = measurement with the aim to inform protocol engineering and practice. Many protocol engineering efforts in a standards development context, as = well as best practices for the operation of IETF-defined protocols, can = benefit from insight provided by Internet measurements of various kinds. = Likewise, Internet measurement research efforts can stand to gain from contacts = with the IETF. The Measurement and Analysis for Protocol Engineering (MAP) = Research Group aims to provide a forum for interchange between these two = communities, supporting: - exchange of measurement-derived insight, - discussion of techniques and best practices for measurement relevant to protocol engineering and network operations, - collaborations to share data supporting these measurements, and - a "landing pad" in general for the Internet measurement community to introduce its efforts to the IETF Measurements of any layer of the Internet protocol stack or aspect of = Internet operations are in-scope for the RG, provided they are relevant to = protocol engineering work within the IETF, or the operation of IETF protocols. Membership ---------- Membership in the MAP RG is open to all interested parties. Mailing List ------------ The MAP RG mailing list is maprg@irtf.org Meetings -------- The MAP RG will meet one to three times per year, as deemed necessary by = the chairs and according to demand. At least one MAP RG meeting will be = co-located with an IETF meeting per year. Given the MAP RG's charter to bridge the = gap between Internet standards and measurement communities, the MAP RG may = also meet colocated with relevant academic conferences or network operator = forums, as appropriate. Meetings are by default open with open attendance and published = proceedings, with remote participation and recording as provided by the meeting = venue, according to the IRTF's IPR policy. This is always the case with at = least one MAP RG meeting co-located with an IETF meeting noted above. However, as = deemed necessary, the chairs may hold virtual or physical meetings with = restricted attendance to discuss observations which cannot be shared openly, = provided that some outcome of such a meeting may be openly shared with the = community. Chairs ------ Mirja K=C3=BChlewind Dave Plonka Cheers, Brian --Apple-Mail=_8402ADB9-68DC-42A4-B42E-3E17878B3BC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWlXCEAAoJEIoSt78L6kajjiQQAK68r7QLNnUvDJifujQryxYV N0wIyUQ9OZS6lYW9tpdv04MgDl9LNvuKTpUVQXTgwqbqXOlMwRTr/F2wcWBX2NUx hq+DAAv4MjRzY8htSl2w92hZi4deTDylOqenPNoErnPEb7Ym+M3iS1eJuXUU//hE thWwtoibDSldyGkPZn3EqHM6Pr0HwpCTzncw5tqJ4lNKL7vKOcGVoqZtIVuR5EXY HothYqs/+VZa6ynfZBL3k6ydCz1Vz3WZc18w1fNzakgTrWrBybdMkK+BOOGJ2sWk fQHzUWuJiylHKDaWm9NQd65cxg2u704ShoZaqEc40LcECloiUcV8e3hFRjOjrdxB 6VKeXhfY51FJioVYmK88nZ+04L3NTuh/vCnDb6pjRKiNO1jeBhvQh/+UZnsW4LiK H9U4TbJmJXy/h/Qp9rXfKqG8rBFXLMX7+vgKQ8KJfmjDQwF5Vm35gYbxAcxo4tt5 CbS3TR8eHxUt8YSJAGRe5oaxW7CgYLWrow+E8R0xYWCNgV28piaQ5g/WugvojoM9 hWgVmh+Se99ERCXtfS290H8ZnwHINEJVyOJgfJd9PgOOwMWfHEKGrbbdTfxdKzBZ MlzYU4mh1l0LM1ZkRKKWy+8s3i2TELfEJKyusA/lRTzGUh6C7Kx+HOBMjDPojMr7 ieKvnwY/+yuVYkQByJ81 =nnkz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_8402ADB9-68DC-42A4-B42E-3E17878B3BC4--