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X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:16:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C67D6C27-E9C2-4187-B678-2222FA96C344 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've just went through setting up GitHub for the QUIC WG, and there were = some non-trivial configuration steps in order to get, e.g., an "issues" = mailing list set up @ietf.org and making sure it receives (only) the = necessary emails from GitHub. Is anyone working on a "GitHub best practices I-D"? If not, should we = start one? Lars --Apple-Mail=_C67D6C27-E9C2-4187-B678-2222FA96C344 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYgcYHAAoJEFS1wwm/cMFXBIkQAIbPRjz9p4G+wZ5opgtHlqga Zl57DIDc+OiqfUItfuhFJHnZ6XQBEq+vvvjkC9Jyuk5o4/LTIZ6fUssie2NQEK2a 2Bm/dHF//XHBH54QP0jhxWRnDysbBPmCK/9MsDZtO+mMfIZi+TXzMquHAkATndSp OoHKUgwFHCt2cp5eWWRjlJul7lR3tY7qc8H6TSFdYV6A9ZNlkEcdQ6mWY4ei0/Ul KGNySo1TKD9tKbed7SzFiXIz49uubj/K4S+bD8+HJgCH37WrUd0bwVNGCJqbg03o 2QiH2Av0isa4DDK1pOmaMiMO4XiOG+oECUL1/XxHwxAd52ZRYj/3a+e3zy8kKxOJ TFxSw/o6hhzu250Dgx7OuCPXt3I98vKt3F2S2N/o/jNiI0l1QR35dpD1lCNK0J7c ruP2J51B8+HMP4vu6tq7V39QNKsOcEOYX1nehJHiE0fFrqO+cdRWfE8Ou/EVOPbq Dd8MyqF+zdwxAvq1Eq7FDJ4QNOCoxi8SKDzVBUqJC5WjjMhbmyganrhuD8SVqU4S rQYqecjiG87NskL+Ofcvr3wRkZcPmHf7ff+RfrOO9IXa15z6xFZt0zfwr1YEAJQ3 mx+DGo6fkd8aZc4EXFjZCSMEVCC5lmLUKIpHokQn8MYqjBAbpq1wBMNEW9TTj/0j 6ask9P1m1iOJaufXsug5 =4M65 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C67D6C27-E9C2-4187-B678-2222FA96C344-- From nobody Fri Jan 20 00:29:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25923129AAA for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:29:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dNHe1aozzjhg for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79785129AA2 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 00:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.104] (unknown [124.189.98.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 429B522E257; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 03:29:34 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:29:31 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> To: Lars Eggert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) Archived-At: Cc: "Ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:29:45 -0000 I'm not sure we're *quite* at the **best** practices stage yet -- we're = still feeling our way around. That said, documenting some common pitfalls / options / etc. would be = helpful. Happy to help... > On 20 Jan 2017, at 7:10 pm, Eggert, Lars wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I've just went through setting up GitHub for the QUIC WG, and there = were some non-trivial configuration steps in order to get, e.g., an = "issues" mailing list set up @ietf.org and making sure it receives = (only) the necessary emails from GitHub. >=20 > Is anyone working on a "GitHub best practices I-D"? 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X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:51:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_25113186-7457-4726-92A4-F2FC52327FEC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2017-1-20, at 9:29, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I'm not sure we're *quite* at the **best** practices stage yet -- = we're still feeling our way around. What do you mean? Whatever I do is a best practice :-) > That said, documenting some common pitfalls / options / etc. would be = helpful. Happy to help... What Mark said. Lars --Apple-Mail=_25113186-7457-4726-92A4-F2FC52327FEC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYgc5xAAoJEFS1wwm/cMFXs64QAKDio8aX/FLZt1Z1SM+qYGxJ Mmvok2L3OH64pOY2HgLHuNtt7eELrJARqD3UWz7C4JUMYMecryG2lAtCel1Qb87i gPFjeuznjq2M6YHgQZc6T/GqGC9mSmrJnRM/PutsBWby4p4iHbN9xuKnkQztOB+5 9xPA2hyw3jycDnft7feJcCGG4peuPzyRlmV9QR1KlTVfWwRv3cyBnVvtKRTa51l/ aKPYksubchEcYvZzbMivZkjtxDd0SXUfU560yBwuXsNQV2HuLs39pKYbKfEwuuZU K4HmiZZm4M0vdNKUOywRIYg0oZpFS6mkNdxWDqmm2hL+/1mJWiHYyzbDZ4q6mCzI MONeMluC9Yuv88V0Q1T0v2TDyiTqG4r22MiTUSZWNxdCIRwPLNzHchOVhaQ9VB2d HxuvyoeydmAhBF8dTbllLZCCKQOZWkqv2T0goC8dH2PePMl9J/tRlR4ldu3lSwQL rBDMCcoo6CK5s6I1vgJNN5Vbg+djqHvm8m3nLcJZ8X2ruWJ89HDu55Xa8yIbeOGQ /ZQ37JzhFer9gV3H/QAGTjvOEc17xwmgL/go3MV1Btq6N44g6RLfWodVr18fxp3x nK3/+UgWDTz/zvs7OJij54k0imfl8we6jVPWvDUZsvoZZQj6US3gkW8/b9nwLUhU eLPVrKrYb3ogfnzooUKK =0gDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_25113186-7457-4726-92A4-F2FC52327FEC-- From nobody Fri Jan 20 04:28:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C02129B1C for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:28:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B3oCWe0yWRG5 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F365D129B5F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 04:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUYJ7-0007Ia-7f for ietf-and-github@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:28:41 +0100 To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org References: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> <1928D823-E991-4812-B7BB-684C02F97B40@netapp.com> From: Niels ten Oever Message-ID: <3a14239e-326d-98c3-c68f-00817cce9e94@digitaldissidents.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:28:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1928D823-E991-4812-B7BB-684C02F97B40@netapp.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5QwDlO9dIRfHoM2fSJpjTrTTlaSLsVOiH" X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 29cc722430e8f1f6ed904119444c0d49b0f3ee91 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 18b3e585b0ef946fc0f6ee9ab4fcc4ff Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:28:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --5QwDlO9dIRfHoM2fSJpjTrTTlaSLsVOiH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="KEaWsEcQK88cWCRuUAim2cMCFda6Am88v"; protected-headers="v1" From: Niels ten Oever To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Message-ID: <3a14239e-326d-98c3-c68f-00817cce9e94@digitaldissidents.org> Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? References: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> <1928D823-E991-4812-B7BB-684C02F97B40@netapp.com> In-Reply-To: <1928D823-E991-4812-B7BB-684C02F97B40@netapp.com> --KEaWsEcQK88cWCRuUAim2cMCFda6Am88v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/20/2017 09:46 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On 2017-1-20, at 9:29, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> I'm not sure we're *quite* at the **best** practices stage yet -- we'r= e still feeling our way around. >=20 > What do you mean? Whatever I do is a best practice :-) >=20 >> That said, documenting some common pitfalls / options / etc. would be = helpful. Happy to help... >=20 > What Mark said. >=20 Would be extremely helpful, happy to contribute as well. --=20 Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 --KEaWsEcQK88cWCRuUAim2cMCFda6Am88v-- --5QwDlO9dIRfHoM2fSJpjTrTTlaSLsVOiH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEJFgLcFxK/YqUiGQ6Dtg/OkaKyLMFAliCAngACgkQDtg/OkaK yLNDxhAAgcKcfWcKlPDhzxSslsPSma38a/MpsUK1Q7yEPsEoBd5ZFb+SNCp2NEjt iwS/pv7frn/+0Wm9fjV3xUv7nXfRwD62v2tuOUDrDHNNwQiKHosmZw0+GjKh/3vR b4OugPH3k65+qojbGy8ojDDL/3jwPFHOeTLpCGRJTkmgpsPWMPbx9DQMCjb69rxf cXSXmFkCKwcP54ww28Hdx75SusUJmMTDCbeDDQzg/oNWPL7ay7I1ZLXenOQNB75d LP6TGqV9Ky/Q4AWDGI4Yx6p8cYL1lx8BYAIb60CAysQ0dlrRw+cTY1J7da9AoHJd N1HCh4PpTU3u+OjROUuBcjkJZSvSqQKqfNQ8ZZ02W/F5xRG+bFbvFx0WoGSp9Gq3 H/EJjohYY41jb4llJ7fqI8UKrC2b8KKMoARotTINoUhG4jZNLUeQRwr+9mjA/PpX f/omvouvmX3LZ2WoXUHmJD9tY9cegp6FSz4Rie2vzjdEGLut1AjAAS/iKzQM3/PF 4vmOm8u0bCjfZiYHVS3BKm3UM4eklc9wzfyP8IWrMZqalShbWC+plq8eoKMcYv8d 6qoiAE2mz7ocGy+hINtE6BLOzVodOQQ8ugKLOAcYdA94Wo0bsGdrBaGjrwqizUF9 aZQInba4t+1NmH+MhE5P5/NGMw9TL7oUhcm/dhg2C3gKuNjmoiU= =hsK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5QwDlO9dIRfHoM2fSJpjTrTTlaSLsVOiH-- From nobody Fri Jan 20 07:00:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E1F1295D2 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:00:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=dcrocker.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0FzDvnfFA2A8 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from simon.songbird.com (simon.songbird.com [72.52.113.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 429801295B0 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.168] (76-218-8-128.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.218.8.128]) (authenticated bits=0) by simon.songbird.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id v0KF1d42002321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:01:39 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dcrocker.net; s=default; t=1484924499; bh=QvC2gtt35OMZ6NEm10USjsEm/HPe8KBlMbUnH1puulU=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:Reply-To:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=fy93coUFWEWRZs0+5SX4O8/ilRAlipNnE5ezkkfxSe8nbXA/oa2VGe+7vn/8kjR3I u25+uxXhj5kF2pIeLx06xUap7N5tq/xNYCafhiUyTdRMTZno2susQWx1UtfDhmwZjr gNa5FvcmomIPIAnI67FCijyDEMqEv/DKlPyr0Fc4= To: Mark Nottingham , Lars Eggert References: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking Message-ID: <8fb1bc5c-eccf-b68a-ad24-79c6565a4407@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:59:58 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "Ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:00:12 -0000 On 1/20/2017 12:29 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > That said, documenting some common pitfalls / options / etc. would be helpful. Happy to help... >> On 20 Jan 2017, at 7:10 pm, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> Is anyone working on a "GitHub best practices I-D"? If not, should we start one? Yes, please. I'm a github extreme novice and would be eager to assist in the writing/editing of such a document. I'd try to produce an initial draft, except for that novice bit getting in my way... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From nobody Fri Jan 20 08:24:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB60212949E for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:24:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vJu4GNPY2yVX for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.proper.com (Opus1.Proper.COM [207.182.41.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 978F9129487 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.60.147] (142-254-101-176.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [142.254.101.176]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.proper.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id v0KGNua3016273 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:23:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.proper.com: Host 142-254-101-176.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [142.254.101.176] claimed to be [10.32.60.147] From: "Paul Hoffman" To: "Eggert, Lars" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:24:57 -0800 Message-ID: <90B16DBD-AF90-4A74-AA9B-A1592BFBBC48@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> References: <6FFB73AA-87C9-49E8-A9F9-56D1FADC8E0E@netapp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5319) Archived-At: Cc: "Ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 16:24:58 -0000 On 20 Jan 2017, at 0:10, Eggert, Lars wrote: > I've just went through setting up GitHub for the QUIC WG, and there > were some non-trivial configuration steps in order to get, e.g., an > "issues" mailing list set up @ietf.org and making sure it receives > (only) the necessary emails from GitHub. > > Is anyone working on a "GitHub best practices I-D"? If not, should we > start one? I am not working on one yet, but if no one else is, I'll start one where the first four people who offer substantial text can be co-authors. :-) --Paul Hoffman From nobody Fri Jan 20 09:19:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD24129452 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=netapp.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Boe9cytc0g0Q for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx142.netapp.com (mx142.netapp.com [216.240.21.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F8A7126B6D for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:19:12 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.33,259,1477983600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="166321522" Received: from vmwexchts04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.122.105.32]) by mx142-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 20 Jan 2017 09:12:51 -0800 Received: from VMWEXCCAS11-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.29) by VMWEXCHTS04-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:18:28 -0800 Received: from NAM01-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (10.120.60.153) by VMWEXCCAS11-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:18:28 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netapp.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-netapp-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=K9WtVR7jFPFxvREF7NvJuELOnWqN88fzzlsGfvgaSVU=; b=BLzN+gZmyc6pTsdZR7cJaEg1tW/LeNfj94j7TOfIjf0uwPWVHvLp8fnLLJnQY3wOk6nuVbLwGqjWsBWNdUqDtlc8FK3KJZDGA2a7nOWbbrcxHQ8xmNpMgPt/Jmk+nyF1MquE6Rx9q29i7sWNLuogtr3OIwWV8V9njemWIdInW90= Received: from BN3PR0601MB1153.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.160.157.18) by BN3PR0601MB1154.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.160.157.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.803.11; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:18:27 +0000 Received: from BN3PR0601MB1153.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.157.18]) by BN3PR0601MB1153.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.157.18]) with mapi id 15.01.0803.021; Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:18:26 +0000 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Paul Hoffman Thread-Topic: [Ietf-and-github] GitHub best practices document? 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X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:19:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3528C87E-2151-477E-8699-62AAF7686769 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I put a start here: https://github.com/larseggert/github-bcp Also, Martin Thomson (CC'ed in case he is not on this list) has lots of = suitable text already, e.g., here in the various .md files here: = https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/tree/master/doc Lars --Apple-Mail=_3528C87E-2151-477E-8699-62AAF7686769 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYgkZiAAoJEFS1wwm/cMFXLbYQALXPS8vQBdqMF1WH0qOXocYh 4dRHKk8i16Sw9B6nLN/3yM5ZiUf2/fCyQ8cw1n48kxWL83xyRakLUV3c7bBAe3mt 5nWlGKJebCk9pO1QWEeUAYPdc21LnAo43oWlI75mLt9/WmX41MrxcEvN9Z6fZtYq 42xKR5Liy5A9W/GQN8QL9I/mFWZ+K3qBunIS2OV6mp8Vx6AYp4fvdxEYoDlPNOlN bIyJGl8eVqKk0tDpUm381UD1OtI0ylLwiVb7IrzhWNj+kjzD9tnrmUmhdmu0TrqC aEiJiSotFU2GIjA+1K6Sob3vjOowMw9BIXbQ/BkQtGy2iSy3tjGx745pCpqw1Y3e rawBrc17sYOeALRYGMulXlEbP1obULDaj3q9HfuS+3usz2+ihgG2shw2ltZIBXny Y1ctxH6BadGADu4HLJwXpMsHmbzQHXZNaNkOTE3w7n7ECtVQimGHbv6CfB5WVg5L VfMySX0hop/ECo2dKBHo+ePl2EtmqwjKz3AZUQ0xQTC3rZ9QCY/3LXLEx8Gh6Km6 UvaAsJ8Z/CGHG8chJEhtM+U8yBaLqqbzHTsY4M0SGcxdZxfPHGWsIz42AT80i8EK uRExp7gR+fuCV6vWLRmzNATsZ5cIsB5fvAxb/JcPMMkSJu/hBmqPgqFemiTsrrR6 YuuRONIp1x3KN7DgSG14 =d95E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_3528C87E-2151-477E-8699-62AAF7686769-- From nobody Mon Jan 30 07:16:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E9012950E for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:16:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EziStQUzPRV7 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2a00:1d50:2::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B46129504 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3452D298; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:16:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jari.arkko@piuha.net) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iGbI37CzVetN; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:16:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2a00:1d50:2::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954362CC9B; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:16:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jari.arkko@piuha.net) From: Jari Arkko X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC7CC136-CB80-490A-8FE7-1A546E058D74"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:16:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> To: Ietf-and-github@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: Cc: Paul Hoffman Subject: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:16:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CC7CC136-CB80-490A-8FE7-1A546E058D74 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 First, wanted to know if there=92s been any progress made re: the draft. Is there? Also, Paul had asked me if a BOF should be scheduled to discuss this topic for IETF #98. But I=92m looking for your advice. Obviously we all love doing all we can to help GitHub and other similar things be easy and even more productive for the IETFers work. But what does =93help=94 then mean in practice? What do members of this list think about that? Is there some definition of a BOF that would be helpful? Would an education session be helpful? Would an informal meeting with people discussing how their WGs do things be helpful? Would people working on the topic be helpful without a meeting? (Should somebody just write that document, for instance? :-) ) Would some IETF leadership action be helpful? Or something else? Or perhaps we should stop helping and let you get on with the task? Thoughts? 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Thread-Index: AQHSewvwitZmDAMuK0mSJCwNLY2rTaFRImsw Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:20:15 +0000 Message-ID: <5f69460c837a46949f0dcfcda55a8771@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [172.19.41.176] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:20:19 -0000 We had a WG chairs lunch session on it, but I think a wider-IETF session wo= uld be (more) useful. Show folks about making PR's, opening issues, get so= me chairs to talk about how useful it is, etc. From nobody Mon Jan 30 07:32:03 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796AC129517 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trRKj3bf5Hxg for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.proper.com (Opus1.Proper.COM [207.182.41.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75393129505 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.60.132] (142-254-101-176.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [142.254.101.176]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.proper.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id v0UFUogq027458 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:30:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.proper.com: Host 142-254-101-176.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [142.254.101.176] claimed to be [10.32.60.132] From: "Paul Hoffman" To: "Jari Arkko" Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:31:55 -0800 Message-ID: <2CCE5F51-2FFF-4BB9-A490-943FA308F5E6@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5319) Archived-At: Cc: Ietf-and-github@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:31:59 -0000 On 30 Jan 2017, at 7:16, Jari Arkko wrote: > First, wanted to know if there’s been any progress made re: > the draft. Is there? > > Also, Paul had asked me if a BOF should be scheduled to > discuss this topic for IETF #98. > > But I’m looking for your advice. > > Obviously we all love doing all we can to help GitHub and other > similar > things be easy and even more productive for the IETFers work. But what > does “help” then mean in practice? My thought was "a draft that has contributions from all WGs currently using GitHub and from at least four people who use it in their daily work and have ideas of things that would be useful for IETF work". > What do members of this list think about that? Is there some > definition > of a BOF that would be helpful? Would an education session be helpful? > Would an informal meeting with people discussing how their WGs > do things be helpful? Would people working on the topic be helpful > without a meeting? (Should somebody just write that document, for > instance? :-) ) Would some IETF leadership action be helpful? > Or something else? Or perhaps we should stop helping and > let you get on with the task? My thought for asking for a BoF instead of a bar BoF is that I would expect at least 50 interested people and thus a Bar BoF discussion would get unwieldy and not actually turn into more effort on the draft (cf. the dns-over-http bar BoF in Seoul). As Rich points out, we had the WG Chairs meeting, and yet that didn't produce anything noticable. It may be that this is premature and we need more experience seeping out from httpbis and tls WGs (and now a bit from dnsop) to the rest of the world, but it feels like OK timing to me. --Paul From nobody Mon Jan 30 08:51:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D8312954B for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:51:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73yI5Z9vT1qF for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5392712953B for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYFBF-0008WC-Jo for ietf-and-github@ietf.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:51:49 +0100 To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> From: Niels ten Oever Message-ID: <5ca39af2-1056-d2eb-d763-62637f72c997@digitaldissidents.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:51:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1vFFLXNBHJpv96AR8VQshHn4umfu8AguS" X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 29cc722430e8f1f6ed904119444c0d49b0f3ee91 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Scan-Signature: 98cd051f671ee36aeaf0d6c34a549736 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:51:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --1vFFLXNBHJpv96AR8VQshHn4umfu8AguS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fvOqeHijwHrSO0aTNHVQEVqsq273NgvK8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Niels ten Oever To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Message-ID: <5ca39af2-1056-d2eb-d763-62637f72c997@digitaldissidents.org> Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> --fvOqeHijwHrSO0aTNHVQEVqsq273NgvK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, On 01/30/2017 04:16 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Would an education session be helpful? Educating would be great, but I think we haven't THE way to do it yet (or is that just me?). > Would an informal meeting with people discussing how their WGs > do things be helpful?=20 I think that would be really helpful, and this would also educate people.= > Would people working on the topic be helpful > without a meeting? (Should somebody just write that document, for > instance? :-) )=20 It might be interesting to get people with different approaches to this together. > Would some IETF leadership action be helpful? I think a room might be sufficient to get this to the next level. Maybe this could be a room with break out set-up, so we could see how is interested in drafting a document, who wants to exchange tips and trick, etc. Cheers, Niels --=20 Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 --fvOqeHijwHrSO0aTNHVQEVqsq273NgvK8-- --1vFFLXNBHJpv96AR8VQshHn4umfu8AguS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEJFgLcFxK/YqUiGQ6Dtg/OkaKyLMFAliPbx4ACgkQDtg/OkaK yLMqlw//TeTdrxj6I+a57jqQXnyM0omtjPZkDBeIBhIv+cAHFI7WdOQhfg9F03q8 qLCKUX/VLLkBjHWCohx8726wMCj4iCR9t/Osbp4L/THx5Uw1yVD/hxEHxW+eIppi 37lJWyp8+uOsfYHViNC7hG191nldpRvued0bNrpgwXPn0UHcs1oWAArLB1l2c40W UAAUjyYW8ZwO1sN3d2Ba57Z5rOjcVSIauoGeFMTxQX+OqwazmNtARdBZTkNCmC7O +yhe1PCa5PfK3SfJdK+38GzZt7SUZ1LU9hx9vLb2TUIN1U/CsSJ9ho3Ok6HGsRN1 ZQA+qTnL81elrfkvSJFM683xOOP5/A33w3BrwxYJL2oQDHJPBCS9qHUD8llsOJSX 0EuOfxsVirVd0ZJQA2arAeA/l4SeKiNTY15RSr45bpOZJV2kbrmI8VvmnV5a3y31 XDFB+16AuXrxCezvsQ1pFnhMQxyzwy8shvXpBnAun8j/xwk3vIK8ek1qranwJcmr VVjn7jUdetwaSHtPDnHveYYmnRrpNqdCV+2NW1Js2rCUJdVMuxGanp63r45r8KZw cie16Ga1Fh9fDVh78WVU5wViXqpF7CN/SPizMJBmAbty1A/shJVIb+qvOsG/Mef7 tgBvVgUJa5DX6aYdrapLmTSfyhua3y8fdx1I+O5e4YybDXgzQks= =anou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1vFFLXNBHJpv96AR8VQshHn4umfu8AguS-- From nobody Mon Jan 30 09:14:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279961299EB for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:14:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L63qc_ziBYnZ for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com [23.79.238.179]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A681299E9 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id F235B433436; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prod-mail-relay11.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay11.akamai.com [172.27.118.250]) by prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71F943343E; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:14:50 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; s=a1; t=1485796490; bh=df5cfDp67gqPjSJ32l7mGMb4gK2EPQumq4Jq+4//dU0=; l=288; h=From:To:CC:Date:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=fCFfj/A5UpzwP56cGCmiIQWyHnZ80gO6IAoI3/njqdvqn0NaXfhvpnrio4yRyKPhO rLCQfNuz4xdMC9ue9pFXkOzR0VNJWf4L5/bjR8Gk+frmhxAbvDYHu9EeGZ8n64OEgM fsvltSu0UXASr9fl4NELB3sUoVOEQH2UjPvljZ7g= Received: from email.msg.corp.akamai.com (ecp.msg.corp.akamai.com [172.27.123.33]) by prod-mail-relay11.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C8D1FC88; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:14:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB1.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.101) by usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:14:50 -0500 Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB1.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.101]) by usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.101]) with mapi id 15.00.1178.000; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:14:50 -0500 From: "Salz, Rich" To: Paul Hoffman , Jari Arkko Thread-Topic: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? Thread-Index: AQHSewvwitZmDAMuK0mSJCwNLY2rTaFRebOA///I2zA= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:14:50 +0000 Message-ID: <1e37bb90cc2d4c7e99245e9c2324c6c4@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> <2CCE5F51-2FFF-4BB9-A490-943FA308F5E6@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <2CCE5F51-2FFF-4BB9-A490-943FA308F5E6@vpnc.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [172.19.35.122] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? 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X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 01:02:38 -0000 On 31 January 2017 at 03:51, Niels ten Oever wrote: > Educating would be great, but I think we haven't THE way to do it yet > (or is that just me?). It's not clear that the-one-true-method is even a goal. Certainly it would help to have a baseline set of expectations for participants, that helps smooth the bumps. 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X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:04:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E76BBB30-E603-40D9-A1F9-5FCB07203617 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 2017-1-30, at 16:16, Jari Arkko wrote: > First, wanted to know if there=E2=80=99s been any progress made re: > the draft. Is there? No. I was at the QUIC interim and got buried under dayjob stuff on = return. The repo is https://github.com/larseggert/github-bcp and people = can start using it to write. I don't need to be an author here, if it = turns out that others have more cycles. > Would an informal meeting with people discussing how their WGs > do things be helpful? If we want a meeting, I think the above would be most useful. Lars --Apple-Mail=_E76BBB30-E603-40D9-A1F9-5FCB07203617 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYkFIGAAoJEFS1wwm/cMFX5b4P/ixULWgTDLfRJgD/vXJLaCy0 yDIVdZlCVz+oN6H0xr3ysznNc8fVWTZ57DKhpnK6+hHkVFA5UUgTEydcu1t3F90n abkLLUVTmxofPFCGae/yTp0jcsbOx18FwUkvvT9pcdPsy7OXatou2egIxKLP+CyO WGvw8uHytz1VOIififfV81u39Yh5PeW1yfRmD+dm/HUAN5RLaeYnJ/JPPyevfi8a IQSA/7ORQpzeUHCbfgeoVIlu30f4O8tzeQKd2KKs/yaES174b+Megw50gJ2zHWF5 yHF1muyyzA5SmQ2wZu0Ybdz0RF8w5pZRFw7HSsWYdwRVlzKe2/kyvXPBpajlk8d9 42pgsq785JrTzSPrhSp3/byh/aqTqUITEgX2507k/oXxHeet7EpJQrpPwyS6usPA 0UhNpCFdkysfdwBGNj6M/2klfijlcDHeQFU1B8RdPiqacF34rxrHe/iyrOB/t2Bd 9xkgLPjAOhkgnMGZxBenAUWoh+mk0S83QddmCq4YyLfMMe1w/EYhs6l1PY/gFmB0 Mnbmc5tZcmVehAMofw1+alCMbelDcfuwfLhPS+wdOWREINayRoR3rvUVvSgkM27Q k++YfIr05J+O1oAF5201S69jlWvGr4RE42GSOGQWmV5yUytdeddlUtLh5yvb8Zjy Xd9JQOjoaWFm+9SL88q3 =wV1n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E76BBB30-E603-40D9-A1F9-5FCB07203617-- From nobody Tue Jan 31 07:14:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AC812959D for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:14:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DEhZzKTwM6fU for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.proper.com (Opus1.Proper.COM [207.182.41.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13EFE1294D3 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.60.85] (rrcs-74-87-24-252.west.biz.rr.com [74.87.24.252]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.proper.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id v0VFDWWm069008 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:13:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.proper.com: Host rrcs-74-87-24-252.west.biz.rr.com [74.87.24.252] claimed to be [10.32.60.85] From: "Paul Hoffman" To: "Ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:11:16 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4F24FC3F-EBBC-465A-B8AD-5AED28C3C8D9@netapp.com> References: <1A563B12-7FC1-4DB9-A262-30417DFEE82B@piuha.net> <4F24FC3F-EBBC-465A-B8AD-5AED28C3C8D9@netapp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5319) Archived-At: Cc: "Eggert, Lars" Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] BOF or other things to do? X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:14:43 -0000 On 31 Jan 2017, at 0:59, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On 2017-1-30, at 16:16, Jari Arkko wrote: >> First, wanted to know if there’s been any progress made re: >> the draft. Is there? > > No. I was at the QUIC interim and got buried under dayjob stuff on > return. The repo is https://github.com/larseggert/github-bcp and > people can start using it to write. I don't need to be an author here, > if it turns out that others have more cycles. > >> Would an informal meeting with people discussing how their WGs >> do things be helpful? > > If we want a meeting, I think the above would be most useful. Note to the list: if you are part of a WG that is actively using GitHub, please consider putting together maybe three paragraphs about the use pattern, objections from participants, training, and so on, and put them in Lars' repo. If we have a meeting (which I still hope we do), giving people not in those WGs a chance to read them first will cause more useful questions in the meeting. I just created a pull request to add such a section to the doc. --Paul