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"ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000b06fe0598d1e0d0" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC for draft-ietf-git-using-github X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:41:03 -0000 --0000000000000b06fe0598d1e0d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for writing this document. I think it's helpful and support publication if one issue is resolved: any chance the authors could rewrite section 10 with less sarcasm? I'm all for humor but I think this joke has served its purpose and doesn't necessarily need to land in the published BCP. Thanks, David On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:56 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > Some comments I'd like to see addressed before existing WGLC. > > =EF=BB=BFI dislike the draft's use of the word "proven," and would prefer > constructs like "demonstrably" or "shown to be" etc. I could live with t= he > others, but the use in the Introduction section really needs to be fixed. > I guess my dislike is that it could be taken by some as being needless > confrontational, and we've already proven (heh) that this topic has some > controversy. > > The phrase "source control" in the Intro should be "version control" > > Near the end of page 3 (pagination in text format, sorry not sorry :) th= e > phrase "avoid issues" should be "help WG chairs avoid issues" I think. > > Sec 1.1 should explain why this is cool. It allows several types of > workflow to be used and changed. For example, authors collaborating, > pushing changes to a WG repo, etc. > > Sec 1.3 "bitbuckey *and* gitlab" > > Sec 2.1, I prefer "ietf-wg-XXXX", top-down style, not intermixed. Blue > bikesheds rule. But it also follows the draft-ietf-- naming style. > > Sec 3.1, Last sentence, about link from README to CONTRIBUTING. Should > that be a SHOULD and written in active-voice? > At the end of 3.1, can you give an "anti-pattern" (we used to say > counter-example I guess) of what would be something unfustifiably > constraining? > > Sec 3.2, "draft-ietf--" should that be "draft-ietf--" ? I > think using one term throughout is better. > > Sec 3.3 "unless with prior..." reads better as "without prior" I think. > > Sec 4.1.2 if restrictions on closing are changed, is this a change in > policy that must be communicated and the WG agree to? Or is this somethin= g > to include in the initial policy and if so, is there guidance in this > document for that? > > Sec 4.2 Should this mention that PR's can be updated by pushing new > commits to the originating repo? This lets PR's evolve in response to WG > discussion. > > Sec 4.3 "requires *email* server infrastructure" ? > > Sec 5.2, near the end. :communication about the work of the group from > the *Working Group* mailing list." ? > > Sec 5.4.1, flip the design and editorial pragraphs? Matches the structur= e > of increasing difficulty? Not a big deal, freel free to ignore. > > Sec 6, makes the document available "to a wider *IETF* audience" ? > > Sec 7, top of page 19. "If permitted" maybe mention "by the Working Grou= p > policy" ? Fine if you think that's redundant. > > Sec 8, "changes to a document" should be "repository" ? Add "These > services are generally available at no cost" ? > > Sec 9 uses "you" language. Should that change to "Editor" language? > "Create a new issue for them" And add a comment pointing to the issue an= d > directing discussion there? > > Sec 10. Ha. > > Sec 13. Gh-config appears both normative and non-nomative > > Sec A2 top of p 25 No "seem to lose" about it. The lose sender info, > which makes it useless. > > Appendix B needs to add authors for A3 and A4 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > --0000000000000b06fe0598d1e0d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for writing this document. I think it's helpful= and support publication if one issue is resolved:
any chance the autho= rs could rewrite section 10 with less sarcasm? I'm all for humor but I = think this
joke has served its purpose and doesn't necessaril= y need to land in the published BCP.

Thanks,
=
David

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:56 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
Some comments I'd like to see a= ddressed before existing WGLC.

=EF=BB=BFI dislike the draft's use of the word "proven," and = would prefer constructs like "demonstrably" or "shown to be&= quot; etc.=C2=A0 I could live with the others, but the use in the Introduct= ion section really needs to be fixed.=C2=A0 I guess my dislike is that it c= ould be taken by some as being needless confrontational, and we've alre= ady proven (heh) that this topic has some controversy.

The phrase "source control" in the Intro should be "version = control"

=C2=A0Near the end of page 3 (pagination in text format, sorry not sorry :)= the phrase "avoid issues" should be "help WG chairs avoid i= ssues" I think.

Sec 1.1 should explain why this is cool.=C2=A0 It allows several types of w= orkflow to be used and changed. For example, authors collaborating, pushing= changes to a WG repo, etc.

Sec 1.3 "bitbuckey *and* gitlab"

Sec 2.1, I prefer "ietf-wg-XXXX", top-down style, not intermixed.= =C2=A0 Blue bikesheds rule. But it also follows the draft-ietf-<wg>- = naming style.

Sec 3.1, Last sentence, about link from README to CONTRIBUTING. Should that= be a SHOULD and written in active-voice?
At the end of 3.1, can you give an "anti-pattern" (we used to say= counter-example I guess) of what would be something unfustifiably constrai= ning?

Sec 3.2, "draft-ietf-<wg>-" should that be "draft-ietf= -<wgname>-" ? I think using one term throughout is better.

Sec 3.3 "unless with prior..." reads better as "without prio= r" I think.

Sec 4.1.2 if restrictions on closing are changed, is this a change in polic= y that must be communicated and the WG agree to? Or is this something to in= clude in the initial policy and if so, is there guidance in this document f= or that?

Sec 4.2=C2=A0 Should this mention that PR's can be updated by pushing n= ew commits to the originating repo?=C2=A0 This lets PR's evolve in resp= onse to WG discussion.

Sec 4.3 "requires *email* server infrastructure" ?

Sec 5.2, near the end.=C2=A0 :communication about the work of the group fro= m the *Working Group* mailing list." ?

Sec 5.4.1, flip the design and editorial pragraphs?=C2=A0 Matches the struc= ture of increasing difficulty?=C2=A0 Not a big deal, freel free to ignore.<= br>
Sec 6, makes the document available "to a wider *IETF* audience" = ?

Sec 7, top of page 19.=C2=A0 "If permitted" maybe mention "b= y the Working Group policy" ?=C2=A0 Fine if you think that's redun= dant.

Sec 8, "changes to a document" should be "repository" ?= Add "These services are generally available at no cost" ?

Sec 9 uses "you" language. Should that change to "Editor&quo= t; language? "Create a new issue for them"=C2=A0 And add a commen= t pointing to the issue and directing discussion there?

Sec 10.=C2=A0 Ha.

Sec 13.=C2=A0 Gh-config appears both normative and non-nomative

Sec A2 top of p 25=C2=A0 No "seem to lose" about it.=C2=A0 The lo= se sender info, which makes it useless.

Appendix B needs to add authors for A3 and A4



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--0000000000000b06fe0598d1e0d0-- From nobody Tue Dec 3 13:38:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF12812003F for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:38:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6EjGcic_B3OA for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppa5.dc.icann.org (ppa5.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 353C412003E for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from PFE112-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (out.west.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.10]) by ppa5.dc.icann.org (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with ESMTPS id xB3Lc2RA025710 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:38:02 GMT Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:38:00 -0800 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1497.000; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 13:37:59 -0800 From: Paul Hoffman To: "ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Proposed new titles for the documents Thread-Index: AQHVqiHu1wAv/YkjPESydm1cYidSNw== Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:37:59 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] x-source-routing-agent: Processed Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_58DD8914-9F45-42B9-BBC7-EF2F98EDB762"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-12-03_06:, , signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: [Ietf-and-github] Proposed new titles for the documents X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 21:38:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_58DD8914-9F45-42B9-BBC7-EF2F98EDB762 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings again. 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 41eaf50b-882d-47eb-8c4c-0b5b76a9da8f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: iJ7xocdjnfmZ4ZHzEtMNJq8Fvgql9PLQ8eMKA8YQPHz1PVvN4VMOTdMig0U6SRvAZ0fDMpjYoQ3SaLJr6gOjRA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM6PR22MB1963 Archived-At: Subject: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC: draft-ietf-git-using-github-02 X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 22:05:22 -0000 --_000_DM6PR22MB201017489BC5857BFD204733DA420DM6PR22MB2010namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In section 3.2/3.3, it might be worth mentioning that GitHub has a feature<= https://help.github.com/en/github/creating-cloning-and-archiving-repositori= es/about-code-owners> for the owners/administrators to give certain user(s)= control of individual files, despite the global write access that contribu= tors have. This means it's possible to configure the SHOULD NOT on GitHub,= rather than relying on everyone's good behavior. I think this configurati= on should be RECOMMENDED for multi-document repos. In section 4.0, we should probably include a reminder that, regardless of t= he from of contribution, all contributions are covered by the Note Well. (= I know that's implied by the term, but it's worth being explicit.) In section 4.3, is it truly the WG that provides these facilities at the ch= air's request? This seems like something that either a) chairs MAY configu= re independently at the WG's request, or b) something that the IETF would p= rovide at the chair's request. The latter seems the most sensible, but doe= s represent a requirement for new functionality. In Section 7, I'm not certain about the "greater time commitment" reasoning= . There is an identical level of traffic coming into your inbox regardless= of whether the incoming deluge is e-mail or GitHub notifications. And in = fact, exactly the same discussions that take place on GitHub could take pla= ce on the mailing list. The fact that GitHub facilitates a greater pace of= interaction and therefore generates a greater volume of traffic is really = what we're alluding to here. GitHub helps working groups work more quickly= , and quicker work risks leaving some people behind. I second the comment that Section 10 is a bit over-the-top for a document w= e intend to publish as having IETF consensus. GitHub doesn't speak IPv6. = This makes us sad. It's still useful. Hyperbole serves no useful purpose = here. Appendix A.2 states that the quicwg has only two repos, but it in fact has = three. Another example of the ops drafts being ignored. -----Original Message----- From: Ietf-and-github On Behalf Of inter= net-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:02 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Subject: [Ietf-and-github] I-D Action: draft-ietf-git-using-github-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the GitHub Integration and Tooling WG of the I= ETF. Title : Using GitHub at the IETF Authors : Martin Thomson Barbara Stark Filename : draft-ietf-git-using-github-02.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2019-11-18 Abstract: This document describes best practices for Working Groups that use GitHub for their work. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-using-github/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-git-using-github-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-git-using-github-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-git-using-github-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Ietf-and-github mailing list Ietf-and-github@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github --_000_DM6PR22MB201017489BC5857BFD204733DA420DM6PR22MB2010namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In section 3.2/3.3, it might be worth mentioning = that GitHub has a feature for the owners/administrators to give certain user(s) con= trol of individual files, despite the global write access that contributors= have.  This means it's possible to configure the SHOULD NOT on GitHub= , rather than relying on everyone's good behavior.  I think this configuration should be RECOMMENDED for multi= -document repos.

 

In section 4.0, we should probably include a remi= nder that, regardless of the from of contribution, all contributions are co= vered by the Note Well.  (I know that’s implied by the term, but= it’s worth being explicit.)

 

In section 4.3, is it truly the WG that provides = these facilities at the chair’s request?  This seems like someth= ing that either a) chairs MAY configure independently at the WG’s req= uest, or b) something that the IETF would provide at the chair’s request.  The latter seems the most sensible, but d= oes represent a requirement for new functionality.

 

In Section 7, I’m not certain about the = 220;greater time commitment” reasoning.  There is an identical l= evel of traffic coming into your inbox regardless of whether the incoming d= eluge is e-mail or GitHub notifications.  And in fact, exactly the same discussions that take place on GitHub could take place on = the mailing list.  The fact that GitHub facilitates a greater pace of = interaction and therefore generates a greater volume of traffic is really w= hat we’re alluding to here.  GitHub helps working groups work more quickly, and quicker work risks leaving some peop= le behind.

 

I second the comment that Section 10 is a bit ove= r-the-top for a document we intend to publish as having IETF consensus.&nbs= p; GitHub doesn’t speak IPv6.  This makes us sad.  It’= ;s still useful.  Hyperbole serves no useful purpose here.<= /p>

 

Appendix A.2 states that the quicwg has only two = repos, but it in fact has three.  Another example of the ops drafts be= ing ignored.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Ietf-and-github <ietf-and-github-bounces= @ietf.org> On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org

Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:02 AM

To: i-d-announce@ietf.org

Cc: ietf-and-github@ietf.org

Subject: [Ietf-and-github] I-D Action: draft-ietf= -git-using-github-02.txt

 

 

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin= e Internet-Drafts directories.

This draft is a work item of the GitHub Integrati= on and Tooling WG of the IETF.

 

        Title&= nbsp;          : Using GitHub = at the IETF

        Author= s         : Martin Thomson

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     Barbara Stark

        &= nbsp;      Filename     &= nbsp;  : draft-ietf-git-using-github-02.txt

        &= nbsp;      Pages     &nbs= p;     : 27

        &= nbsp;      Date      = ;      : 2019-11-18

 

Abstract:

   This document describes best practic= es for Working Groups that use

   GitHub for their work.

 

 

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i= s:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-u= sing-github/

 

There are also htmlized versions available at:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-git-using-= github-02

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-= git-using-github-02

 

A diff from the previous version is available at:=

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-gi= t-using-github-02

 

 

Please note that it may take a couple of minutes = from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are availab= le at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous F= TP at:

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draft-ietf-git-using-github-02 X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:36:34 -0000 Hi Rich, I realize now that a lot of the associated text moved to the other docum= ent, which isn't ideal. We should at least mandate the inclusion of the= IPR and copyright notices. I've done that, along with consolidating so= me of the text into the "Communicating Policies" section (2.2). https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/33 The relevant text being: > In addition to Working Group policies, notices on repositories MUST in= clude citations for BCPs 78 and 79 ([ref], [ref]) and other IETF contrib= ution policies. A copy or reference to the [IETF Note Well](link) is ap= propriate.=20 I can add a reminder and back-reference to Section 4 in addition to that= section if you think that would help. Cheers, Martin On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, at 13:27, Salz, Rich wrote: > =20 > * In section 4.0, we should probably include a reminder that,=20 > regardless of the from of contribution, all contributions are covered=20= > by the Note Well. 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Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:02:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-612-g13027cc-fmstable-20191203v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <4e138151-61fd-40fd-b768-d2f1ad01e9e5@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 16:02:01 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC for draft-ietf-git-using-github X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 05:02:25 -0000 Thanks for the review Rich, Your PR is https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/34 I created https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/33 to cover a separate item before I saw your email. On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, at 05:56, Salz, Rich wrote: > Sec 3.1, Last sentence, about link from README to CONTRIBUTING. Should > that be a SHOULD and written in active-voice? > At the end of 3.1, can you give an "anti-pattern" (we used to say > counter-example I guess) of what would be something unfustifiably > constraining? This was written in reaction to some recent attempts to constrain policies. I've removed the more strongly worded bit. The problem here is that there is a balance between giving editors some leeway and ensuring that the output of the process properly reflects consensus. For instance, in QUIC, substantive changes now require chair involvement. That is a real burden if you are at a stage in the process where there are many changes to make. When that process was introduced, there were several occasions when chairs were not especially responsive for different reasons (illness, leave, other responsibilities) and that did result in problems. For now, I think that it's enough to suggest that chairs and editors communicate about processes to ensure that they are working. > Sec 4.1.2 if restrictions on closing are changed, is this a change in > policy that must be communicated and the WG agree to? Or is this > something to include in the initial policy and if so, is there guidance > in this document for that? I think that falls under the "communicating policies" text. > Sec 4.3 "requires *email* server infrastructure" ? Not just email, if I understand how it works. > Sec 6, makes the document available "to a wider *IETF* audience" ? Yes, but also not IETF. > Sec 8, Add "These services are generally available at no cost" ? That doesn't seem relevant here. > > Sec 9 uses "you" language. Should that change to "Editor" language? > "Create a new issue for them" And add a comment pointing to the issue > and directing discussion there? I took the opportunity to revise this text. > Sec A2 top of p 25 No "seem to lose" about it. The lose sender info, > which makes it useless. Not entirely true. It retains some of that information, but I agree, it's not ideal. > Appendix B needs to add authors for A3 and A4 I'm going to ask about these sections separately. I think that they might be able to go. 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As input to the process of this working group, they are useful, but I'm not sure how much value we get out of creating a publication with this content. What do people think about removing these? Proposal: https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/35 From nobody Tue Dec 3 21:34:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55751200CE for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:33:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lowentropy.net header.b=khcAMlr4; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=yly/H4ID Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id reLtXyJgPLrM for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED920120086 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE36226FB for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap2 ([10.202.2.52]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 04 Dec 2019 00:33:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lowentropy.net; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm3; bh=ONBEl v/kWGiOmriIow1xKrjK1DvXKTbTtQ9+212j4hU=; b=khcAMlr4Zcnzsxqv1HC5L 0ckfXCPUF2vwbjvSgdvDfifv67owxMyGoHcHUW9TW/iVAZrZu/4u6vwXyZXO7YYB /1Dde4fpOM+9kO+T3/4acSwvfnGHeT6l3DPZSNe3ZG2R6J3ZClwP8NUB3iiz265g v3MQlAor/EXB8KE4dCTK/XAjbe7MLmOm+oCzv6Vp/8EAA3CDlx0cNo4Vx+0IuLKy 6GSCyoL4ctN2wY13cfDtbUAak/uvYDGNuw7MPCFah688jSGs3/m1Loex00vygXoW 3gWne83tSir7zpat2yYEYJSy5cjlHwqiGGRdRZiGeaiO7K559EwkZ9oTU0J+f1yy g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=ONBElv/kWGiOmriIow1xKrjK1DvXKTbTtQ9+212j4 hU=; b=yly/H4IDRIWahkeyx3o5fAMVOPz1uH3DhK0bT396rZjOLNDOvlt3aeBqY bCXyrCzCDtVm0k4NgR1aIChzdw+HKL5jTPfN3o0sgDTSFx50h7DMRrgJBkt198u4 RAJPkMFo3sLyRnpER+hscVXN9vQiZRIczm8LQXVvWaz7RYa410q+OnQNcAHDPJO5 EKd4ToZ+UbDgPLQpZTs7ZXxfBLVK+2KK0n32fRLk8vZ49A2R7wHT1yh7qQL+tOXa xiHCSq0PRRjPjrfHmnGvqY6v/DjtzH638bshSKRkKP1ckzarLat53SAYRiho5E2U tlagVt/++uQWukrwvUohF9BRzymrw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudejkedgkeehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesth hqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdforghrthhinhcuvfhhohhmshhonhdfuceomhhtsehl ohifvghnthhrohhphidrnhgvtheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehgihhthhhusgdrtghomhenuc frrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhtsehlohifvghnthhrohhphidrnhgvthenucev lhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8D73DE00A2; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 00:33:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-612-g13027cc-fmstable-20191203v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <928f844c-6e88-4f43-b780-1391cbd7ef9b@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 16:33:35 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC: draft-ietf-git-using-github-02 X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 05:33:59 -0000 Thanks for reviewing Mike, Your PR is: https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/36 On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, at 09:05, Mike Bishop wrote: > In section 3.2/3.3, it might be worth mentioning that GitHub has a=20= > feature=20 > for the owners/administrators to give certai= n user(s) control of individual files, despite the global write access t= hat contributors have. This means it's possible to configure the SHOULD = NOT on GitHub, rather than relying on everyone's good behavior. I think = this configuration should be RECOMMENDED for multi-document repos. That's a relatively new feature. One that I note we aren't using in the= two multi-document repositories I'm involved in. I don't know enough a= bout the limitations of that to say whether a recommendation there is a = good idea or not. At some level, I'm concerned that it will encourage m= ore WGs to create single repositories, which I think are terrible. That= 's probably not a great reason not to include it, but lack of experience= with it should be. > In section 4.0, we should probably include a reminder that, regardless= =20 > of the from of contribution, all contributions are covered by the Note= =20 > Well. (I know that=E2=80=99s implied by the term, but it=E2=80=99s wor= th being=20 > explicit.) In https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/33 in response to Ric= h's review I moved that around a little. The emphasis being on the noti= ces and not the contributions. Is that the wrong angle? Both of you pi= cked Section 4. =20 > In section 4.3, is it truly the WG that provides these facilities at=20= > the chair=E2=80=99s request? This seems like something that either a) = chairs=20 > MAY configure independently at the WG=E2=80=99s request, or b) somethi= ng that=20 > the IETF would provide at the chair=E2=80=99s request. The latter seem= s the=20 > most sensible, but does represent a requirement for new functionality.= I struck the paragraph. I don't think that we can say (yet) who needs t= o run that infrastructure. That's a question we can resolve outside of = a published document. > In Section 7, I=E2=80=99m not certain about the =E2=80=9Cgreater time = commitment=E2=80=9D=20 > reasoning. There is an identical level of traffic coming into your=20 > inbox regardless of whether the incoming deluge is e-mail or GitHub=20= > notifications. And in fact, exactly the same discussions that take=20 > place on GitHub *could* take place on the mailing list. The fact that=20= > GitHub facilitates a greater pace of interaction and therefore=20 > generates a greater volume of traffic is really what we=E2=80=99re all= uding to=20 > here. GitHub helps working groups work more quickly, and quicker work=20= > risks leaving some people behind. I'll reword. > Appendix A.2 states that the quicwg has only two repos, but it in fact= =20 > has three. Another example of the ops drafts being ignored. \o/ There are also other repositories now. See my other email. I don't know how much editorial control I can exerc= ise over this text. I think that I'd rather remove these sections now t= hat they have done their jobs. 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As input to = the process of this working group, they are useful, but I'm not sure how = much value we get out of creating a publication with this content. >=20 > What do people think about removing these? 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<8E331411-B4E5-46D9-8C54-7989BEDF4FFB@icann.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.197.69] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.95,18.0.572 definitions=2019-12-04_03:2019-12-04,2019-12-04 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 mlxlogscore=910 clxscore=1011 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-1910280000 definitions=main-1912040167 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] [Ext] Anecdotal appendices in draft-ietf-git-using-github X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 20:25:39 -0000 > From: Paul Hoffman > On Dec 3, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > > > > I've never really known what to do with these sections. As input to th= e > process of this working group, they are useful, but I'm not sure how much > value we get out of creating a publication with this content. > > > > What do people think about removing these? >=20 > Removing them seems fine, given how quickly the= y > will become out-of-date. As written, I agree they aren't content I'd like to keep. However, I think = it would be really useful to have some non-WG-specific "sample GitHub usage= s" based on these, to help WG chairs more concretely understand some of the= ir options. I'd be happy to take a stab at writing up one or two such sampl= es to see what people think. Alternately, we could put such samples in the GitHub tutorial (which, now t= hat I think of that, would probably be the better place). Which reminds me = I got distracted and forgot to provide input to that. 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Do you and > the chairs believe that we have working group consensus for such a > hyperbolic statement? I don't believe this text in this form should be > sent out for IETF Last Call or IESG review. I just removed the section as part of my response to Rich's review. 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Which > reminds me I got distracted and forgot to provide input to that. That seems like a great way to approach this. Would it make sense to just copy the anecdotes directly for the moment? 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Which > > reminds me I got distracted and forgot to provide input to that. >=20 > That seems like a great way to approach this. Would it make sense to jus= t > copy the anecdotes directly for the moment? I think that would be quite reasonable. 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Should we not have a default Organization with all correct files (Note Well., Contributing, etc) created that can be used as a default for new working groups? Tim On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:25 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > This is the working group last call for > draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, it > will run until December 13. Please review the document and send your > comments to the list by then. > > Thanks, > Chris > > [1] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > --00000000000071ce4b0598e85b15 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

One comment I have on this document - it discusse= s the files that need to be included with any working group.
Shou= ld we not have a default Organization with all correct files (Note Well., C= ontributing, etc) created that=C2=A0
can be used as a default for= new working groups?

Tim

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019= at 4:25 AM Christopher Wood <caw= @heapingbits.net> wrote:
This is the worki= ng group last call for draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration [1]. Due to u= pcoming holidays, it will run until December 13. Please review the document= and send your comments to the list by then.

Thanks,
Chris

[1] https://datatracker.ietf= .org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/

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There might be cause to have templates for common repository shapes, but we have to rely on things like Rich Salz's setup tool for this. On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, at 09:30, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > One comment I have on this document - it discusses the files that need > to be included with any working group. > Should we not have a default Organization with all correct files (Note > Well., Contributing, etc) created that > can be used as a default for new working groups? > > Tim > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:25 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > > This is the working group last call for draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, it will run until December 13. Please review the document and send your comments to the list by then. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf-and-github mailing list > > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > From nobody Wed Dec 4 20:58:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AD31200B4 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 20:58:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g9zCngGv5KM8 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com (mail-ot1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2359120047 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id o9so1521874ote.2 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ldsFE6QxAK8GU7xGh63RbuVjL/wNWv/LYJGuu4u9lnQ=; b=Fr0D5b+AhPvLsxtHlyipMfnlOncDhbzq8z9IE10P/pXabKXVTAd2+T2LoIw2lHuZ2F B4J+mDnc/ON+2Hsy16t/aTLstUis8Dz1EvayRySwoPOHkeI2m4lrUVH2rtc7Uh35zgMW ViPhtsY9N94AhGh4f8xKTYr89pMTVdSkNQ+ZdIjP9sGbD7Xky5k9JKPgtDrSbR7LvfTn cuZCZlGbSxGexGh0T8Fxfs/wmW2QP74mKFpF8X0uvN6qVyCbMfXq3k70Lj57VjAadSnZ 0ThRBepQUd0oQvtWpM2m4CTBfzWrfKF78kxzIBFxDr9v3aXyLmUn9JXeebAB9CBpADem 2rSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ldsFE6QxAK8GU7xGh63RbuVjL/wNWv/LYJGuu4u9lnQ=; b=UOd5SXCQzVjQQrEmljPzQaPC0ZbBo2pVUkRS+vdnycJsFZzGOqDXj0MWG4qdvc1HFe 9f2XlrIyHyo9ej9Q3RI/1fFDvgGkryVqAiKOL20x3hP2JmtSS+mOLTl/1hY4ab4mBwWz ckgW7q8ut7EHRPs2TB8+VUXzYSuSFRKIDfZKdyblvNWNogsZ5cvqxFgt6IQrMKJAjLDD eH2+QPBSjBIjYrKmKulhQ5Gx3kqx+cjr/WJe5YDRTWtft62pFL8D08OqhvVCX4GrpNTJ xlEQ/39IWlIxKBkFg8O/1ILnbozeogG+KLXoE834c+MYCge/eAwhoDsQLqlsyavdtRxl cXng== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU/M43CqV2EmSo44K1jtYqxXQvmjYbjBH1fTmYvHF/uy45LWA4m svDnwdZKeTQzcEPKagOaBPlfHyj+WmHmgzIna7qoDA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx70O1+v4ca05g6yrCh88TnVOpD+tGKYlkvW+bvcrGT1UejQhW1dABkJdRbpeITpelJQ85Z3tYMPKdmtQORvIU= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:53cb:: with SMTP id i11mr5457233oth.158.1575521915044; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tim Wicinski Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: Martin Thomson Cc: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001509b60598edc88c" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC for draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 04:58:39 -0000 --0000000000001509b60598edc88c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Oh true. As I was reading these I was feeling a new WG chair may be looking for a reference to Rich's fine work. On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:19 PM Martin Thomson wrote: > Unlike repositories, organisations can't be created from a template. There > might be cause to have templates for common repository shapes, but we have > to rely on things like Rich Salz's setup tool for this. > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, at 09:30, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > One comment I have on this document - it discusses the files that need > > to be included with any working group. > > Should we not have a default Organization with all correct files (Note > > Well., Contributing, etc) created that > > can be used as a default for new working groups? > > > > Tim > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:25 AM Christopher Wood > wrote: > > > This is the working group last call for > draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, it > will run until December 13. Please review the document and send your > comments to the list by then. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ietf-and-github mailing list > > > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf-and-github mailing list > > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > --0000000000001509b60598edc88c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh true.=C2=A0 As I was reading these I was feeling a new = WG chair may be looking for a reference
to Rich's fine work.
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On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:19 PM Martin Thomson <= ;mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
<= /div>
Unlike repositories, organisations can't be creat= ed from a template. There might be cause to have templates for common repos= itory shapes, but we have to rely on things like Rich Salz's setup tool= for this.

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, at 09:30, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>
> One comment I have on this document - it discusses the files that need=
> to be included with any working group.
> Should we not have a default Organization with all correct files (Note=
> Well., Contributing, etc) created that
> can be used as a default for new working groups?
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:25 AM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> wrote:<= br> > > This is the working group last call for draft-ietf-git-github-wg-= configuration [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, it will run until December 13.= Please review the document and send your comments to the list by then.
> >
> >=C2=A0 Thanks,
> >=C2=A0 Chris
> >
> >=C2=A0 [1] https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-ietf-git-gi= thub-wg-configuration/ <h= ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/= >
> >
> >=C2=A0 _______________________________________________
> >=C2=A0 Ietf-and-github mailing list
> > Iet= f-and-github@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo= /ietf-and-github
> _______________________________________________
> Ietf-and-github mailing list
> Ietf-and= -github@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iet= f-and-github
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Wed, 04 Dec 2019 21:08:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8E4A2E88-5B95-4A7A-AC5D-693AAE7413EE@akamai.com> In-Reply-To: <8E4A2E88-5B95-4A7A-AC5D-693AAE7413EE@akamai.com> From: Tim Wicinski Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 00:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Salz, Rich" Cc: Christopher Wood , "ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e778fd0598edec0f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC for draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:08:55 -0000 --000000000000e778fd0598edec0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" if we do ietf-wg- then we can do ietf-bof- ietf-iab-. etc that does have some advantages. On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:04 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > > [1] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ > > I read this document. I dislike ietf--wg as the naming > convention, preferring a pure top-down approach of ietf-wg-. > > I am also confused by statements like the IETF should regularly backup all > repositories. Who is signing up to do that? > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > --000000000000e778fd0598edec0f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

if we do ietf-wg-<wgname> then we can do ie= tf-bof-<name> ietf-iab-<foo>. etc

that= does have some advantages.



On Thu, Dec = 5, 2019 at 12:04 AM Salz, Rich <rsal= z@akamai.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 [1]= https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/

I read this document.=C2=A0 I dislike ietf-<wgname>-wg as the naming = convention, preferring a pure top-down approach of ietf-wg-<wgname>.<= br>
I am also confused by statements like the IETF should regularly backup all = repositories.=C2=A0 Who is signing up to do that?


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I dislike ietf--wg as the naming = convention, preferring a pure top-down approach of ietf-wg-. >=20 > I am also confused by statements like the IETF should regularly backup = all repositories. Who is signing up to do that? The IETF Secretariat. 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List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 00:52:04 -0000 On Wed, Dec 11, 2019, at 11:02, Paul Hoffman wrote: > https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/pull/10 Thanks Paul. 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That said, the suggested titles are pretty dense. Did you consider = something a bit more explanatory / active, like: Using GitHub in IETF Work: Advice to Administrators Using GitHub in IETF Work: Suggested Working Group Polices and Practices ? > On 4 Dec 2019, at 8:37 am, Paul Hoffman = wrote: >=20 > Greetings again. At the face-to-face meeting, someone suggested that = the titles of the two WG documents be updated to reflect the new content = split. The authors have tentatively agreed on: >=20 > draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration: Working Group GitHub = Administration >=20 > draft-ietf-git-using-github: Working Group GitHub Usage Guidance >=20 > At the risk of opening two bikesheds, does this work for folks? >=20 > --Paul Hoffman_______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Tue Dec 10 17:10:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E38120219 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HhniO2eDBEso for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppa5.dc.icann.org (ppa5.dc.icann.org [192.0.46.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B1A012008C for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from PFE112-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (out.west.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.10]) by ppa5.dc.icann.org (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with ESMTPS id xBB1A5cZ025665 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2019 01:10:06 GMT Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:10:03 -0800 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1497.000; Tue, 10 Dec 2019 17:10:03 -0800 From: Paul Hoffman To: "ietf-and-github@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Ext] [Ietf-and-github] Proposed new titles for the documents Thread-Index: AQHVr7+3yZrECLVXGkW/jNu9S6+jdA== Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 01:10:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <6A776595-DF05-4406-83DB-1EAEF77FDC09@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <6A776595-DF05-4406-83DB-1EAEF77FDC09@mnot.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] x-source-routing-agent: Processed Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F141F0FD-8065-4D86-95C1-6E145B14D3A4"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-12-10_08:, , signatures=0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] [Ext] Proposed new titles for the documents X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 01:10:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F141F0FD-8065-4D86-95C1-6E145B14D3A4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Dec 10, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: >=20 > I think these are marginally better; the delineation between the = documents still isn't great. >=20 > That said, the suggested titles are pretty dense. Did you consider = something a bit more explanatory / active, like: >=20 > Using GitHub in IETF Work: Advice to Administrators > Using GitHub in IETF Work: Suggested Working Group Polices and = Practices >=20 > ? No, but these look fine to me. 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The last call is now finished. We'll merge the PRs that came up during the call, spin a new version, and then move the document onwards to the IESG. Best, Chris On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 1:24 AM, Christopher Wood wrote: > This is the working group last call for > draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, > it will run until December 13. Please review the document and send your > comments to the list by then. > > Thanks, > Chris > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > From nobody Mon Dec 16 09:34:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A387912089C for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:34:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=heapingbits.net header.b=SrCEldAt; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=rTzndzci Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YXRVpKh0oYka for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AAEA120899 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E2021B81 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap4 ([10.202.2.54]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:34:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heapingbits.net; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm3; bh=At+kTalpHUIADezA2LpmqNFv2FtIMQA 5BrKT0jZ2G0M=; b=SrCEldAt0YczHLO5gBpJwIvjxmDKpyFkvofyZNpKr+hR6dz sNOZOMwjzlP0rewsPhHg3r1NwCGTndgRKA3hDZ1HrYFve+GA6I1CLXsuFnKjYrvN dj5GioReA5E5I8BcQqvqTihzPbe9KWOVMvPg2rfFdygnTK35gTy213ebDUWo5xOR rlWT+yvA8bFVDGoO0OryY4smMNvGm4wByIaSceXciHhcFkG8M1hpMkvNsFfrCvJc K91TR+Inx3eG6mJL1Rv8dwM2dER/shhzVwCQXsdhF8uoQtbTzpZz1mv7SGfRMudI PvEm5+ZJ+gTH2StY8sfcROOid4PlShKO/fNGgsg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=At+kTa lpHUIADezA2LpmqNFv2FtIMQA5BrKT0jZ2G0M=; b=rTzndzciJzV9hrKZ51A7uN 7UNw/ZknDaYWb5t1m7vXBJfg9dmzWP3Ob0T6RV7hvFQct6EpiEF0/Z5scZ/U3GU1 f5tx/L7edtstl5COUR7JlVY7fv6hYXZtPuD5cdjPamvKIf38Mm154otvwGKEmqLP 0Ce1huS+9qd0j7DkhbgSOw6FZn80kFAF4G52bYEuAURFFmbQdDDLfmP1xxVNzE9u ABOP8IBFqtvl4MHKSbq3uQ7q+8hacCuLh1B+rnvUvG2H9/tlKgaWNdyCEIHjPw+m FmFMug3ifw7wexD5Uy+lCX0uSt/4fxEN+rIHIojHEoujakD7PBBbx1MDf/P+YEdQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrvddthedguddtvdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesth dtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdevhhhrihhsthhophhhvghrucghohhougdfuceotggr fieshhgvrghpihhnghgsihhtshdrnhgvtheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehivghtfhdrohhrgh enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheptggrfieshhgvrghpihhnghgsihhtshdrnhgv thenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedu X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 52DEA3C00A1; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:34:31 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-680-g58d4e90-fmstable-20191213v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 09:34:11 -0800 From: "Christopher Wood" To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] WGLC for draft-ietf-git-using-github X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:34:34 -0000 Thanks to all who read the document and resulting Pull Requests, provided feedback, and engaged in the process. The last call is is now complete. As with the configuration draft, we'll merge the outstanding PRs, spin a new version, and then move the document onwards to the IESG. Best, Chris On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Christopher Wood wrote: > This is the working group last call for draft-ietf-git-using-github > [1]. Due to upcoming holidays, it will run until December 13. Please > review the document and send your comments to the list by then. > > Thanks, > Chris, on behalf of the chairs > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-using-github/ > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-and-github mailing list > Ietf-and-github@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-and-github > From nobody Fri Dec 20 08:23:59 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A224C12082B; Fri, 20 Dec 2019 08:23:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.113.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Message-ID: <157685903763.4966.12723986556005284330@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 08:23:57 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Ietf-and-github] I-D Action: draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration-04.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 16:23:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the GitHub Integration and Tooling WG of the IETF. Title : Working Group GitHub Administration Authors : Alissa Cooper Paul Hoffman Filename : draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration-04.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2019-12-20 Abstract: The use of GitHub in IETF working group processes is increasing. This document describes possible uses and conventions for working groups which are considering starting to use GitHub. It does not mandate any processes, and does not require changes to the processes used by current and future working groups not using GitHub. Discussion of this document takes place on the ietf-and-github mailing list (ietf-and-github@ietf.org), which is archived at . The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-git-github-wg-configuration-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Dec 31 14:50:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietf-and-github@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9174120019; Tue, 31 Dec 2019 14:50:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.115.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ietf-and-github@ietf.org Message-ID: <157783262662.23391.3489837396411131549@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 14:50:26 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Ietf-and-github] I-D Action: draft-ietf-git-using-github-03.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-and-github@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Discussion of using GitHub in IETF activities, particularly for Working Groups" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:50:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the GitHub Integration and Tooling WG of the IETF. Title : Working Group GitHub Usage Guidance Authors : Martin Thomson Barbara Stark Filename : draft-ietf-git-using-github-03.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2019-12-31 Abstract: This document describes best practices for Working Groups that use GitHub for their work. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-git-using-github/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-git-using-github-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-git-using-github-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-git-using-github-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/