From nobody Tue May 5 13:39:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2879B3A0A32 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TZQ4QY8zdWIi for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com (mail-lf1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0774E3A0A30 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id u4so2501164lfm.7 for ; Tue, 05 May 2020 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uM3CxCzOVd6cnUalipUb4sW6HHGqT5z1MKhejeJxSns=; b=Ne5/T7HFPCDQ7ZtnFLQ3HfLl8C83I+RXXhorWb92ldJkFzscyz7I4A1pnYoWnZUF+x TfOm3TvM/Gibd2dcH8digXx+AzTUUQBZxZ/MUtj7P76CJ1/96eFJQiDWT8bJhC5zwXwG xK5uNrT1/VvOKTvVHapl5Ri/Fs6/pNzRiIc+PsWNRAjpA+pKXXj4ZlecSih4DgZBm5wG GouOyG15FPzPvbqdsVyDwHU5DLCkyqNITNRl43pBiZn4/rP2IHhvY2FNGGL9L79fPbFC /7zEamDsxEnPucdevFOv2LsK4F7Tz25IxgihrLiw4c2l752vFpmIeeYvIHNgXWEBJ3vz WQDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uM3CxCzOVd6cnUalipUb4sW6HHGqT5z1MKhejeJxSns=; b=jckFVrWP/Rx6fALKKzZOq34UGDTPc5outG0DNqz4Cn6wSnbk7sE/ubA3yDeA/zIR73 iQ0cNDXQkQ4NtgKp8fphrJLtRvF1Q5c4B2mLDXgS4r9wE11YOB6n9lqyLqNVD+iVQTu2 ++Upj8CBO25av7qVXGIssupHmNjm/QbMsYU0rOjtwVShmWQiB7VT/qlig1IEZVPXrM5e bGZGyUllwSpCtEpX9CAwPNYNNY+2sEGnxExhydo5cS/5pTCPRKd3I42gBlvKsQXBJgwG +SeOdRehMw0ZPstlStD+v80MuF/UfawNggbt0baAXSsq3lHD3WwYLCNkBclU0dTMZczU QSGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZvfhmS1VZQF5BbfIdyqmyn1hOb6+DRjGpmP4S5XK8hRvGSTdyL BVwrAHATxKntdjiGYOHij6BYuzhvEk3viS58yEhVgHk0 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKfBlyUdz2i756x1gFmrnYVpPqHtTZ+/cE6NA7pcFgn0BBFZ6SU1eRzpSivNmwzbgXNNUXvCaUj4XnZouaJlOI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:310d:: with SMTP id n13mr2844635lfb.205.1588711152818; Tue, 05 May 2020 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:6708:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 5 May 2020 13:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Seth Johnson Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 16:39:11 -0400 Message-ID: To: internetgovtech@iab.org Cc: Jared Mauch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Internetgovtech] Can you hold off on closing the list? Re: Closing the list X-BeenThere: internetgovtech@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Governance and IETF technical work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 20:39:18 -0000 Please don't close this list, as there will be work to do here. Certainly be sure there are archives if there's some sort of notion that closing lists down now is a good idea. Seth Johnson On 4/29/20, Jared Mauch wrote: > Greetings! > > The IAB is reviewing the mailing lists we are stewards for and > intend to close this list in 7 days as it was related to ITU 2014 > activities. > > If you have questions or concerns please direct them to > the architecture-discuss list. > > Thank you, > > Jared Mauch > (on behalf of the IAB) > > _______________________________________________ > Internetgovtech mailing list > Internetgovtech@iab.org > https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/internetgovtech > From nobody Tue May 5 14:07:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3C63A0B2E for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:07:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qsOr167RppUe for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.schiefner.de (mail.schiefner.de [188.138.88.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2AD33A0B2D for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p4fd31ef5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([79.211.30.245] helo=[192.168.220.69]) by mail.schiefner.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jW4mN-0004gc-5e; Tue, 05 May 2020 23:07:03 +0200 To: Seth Johnson References: Cc: internetgovtech@iab.org From: Carsten Schiefner X-Pep-Version: 2.0 Message-ID: <39ac77dd-8a24-da22-86b6-b9e925a38371@schiefner.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 23:06:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Can you hold off on closing the list? Re: Closing the list X-BeenThere: internetgovtech@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Governance and IETF technical work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 21:07:09 -0000 On 05.05.2020 22:39, Seth Johnson wrote: > Please don't close this list, as there will be work to do here. Which is going to be exactly what? > Certainly be sure there are archives if there's some sort of notion > that closing lists down now is a good idea. Email header inspection... Always revealing: List-Archive: = Best, -C. > On 4/29/20, Jared Mauch wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> The IAB is reviewing the mailing lists we are stewards for and >> intend to close this list in 7 days as it was related to ITU 2014 >> activities. >> >> If you have questions or concerns please direct them to >> the architecture-discuss list. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Jared Mauch >> (on behalf of the IAB) From nobody Tue May 5 14:28:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3F53A0BA5 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tv9aM4J56Kgi for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puck.nether.net (puck.nether.net [IPv6:2001:418:3f4::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D797E3A0BA3 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.155] (c-68-49-104-93.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.49.104.93]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by puck.nether.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CB6E5400F0; Tue, 5 May 2020 17:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Jared Mauch In-Reply-To: <39ac77dd-8a24-da22-86b6-b9e925a38371@schiefner.de> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 17:27:41 -0400 Cc: Seth Johnson , internetgovtech@iab.org Message-Id: <5DBD9796-91C5-4438-A355-C305D52B1680@puck.nether.net> References: <39ac77dd-8a24-da22-86b6-b9e925a38371@schiefner.de> To: Carsten Schiefner X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Can you hold off on closing the list? Re: Closing the list X-BeenThere: internetgovtech@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Governance and IETF technical work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 21:27:57 -0000 I'll ask someone hold off on this one for now but as requested can you send t= he note to architecture discuss? There isn't a lot of activity and of the li= sts we are proposing closing this the most active one with the prior message= almost a year ago.=20 Sent from my iCar > On May 5, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Carsten Schiefner wrote= : >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 05.05.2020 22:39, Seth Johnson wrote: >> Please don't close this list, as there will be work to do here. >=20 > Which is going to be exactly what? >=20 >> Certainly be sure there are archives if there's some sort of notion >> that closing lists down now is a good idea. >=20 > Email header inspection... Always revealing: >=20 > List-Archive: >=20 > Best, >=20 > -C. >=20 >>> On 4/29/20, Jared Mauch wrote: >>> Greetings! >>>=20 >>> The IAB is reviewing the mailing lists we are stewards for and >>> intend to close this list in 7 days as it was related to ITU 2014 >>> activities. >>>=20 >>> If you have questions or concerns please direct them to >>> the architecture-discuss list. >>>=20 >>> Thank you, >>>=20 >>> Jared Mauch >>> (on behalf of the IAB) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Internetgovtech mailing list > Internetgovtech@iab.org > https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/internetgovtech From nobody Tue May 5 14:50:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: internetgovtech@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759E43A0BD1 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.344 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.344 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, MAY_BE_FORGED=1.54, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EzSa6wb1iIg4 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FE023A0BCA for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 045LobjV002442; Tue, 5 May 2020 22:50:37 +0100 Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270F522044; Tue, 5 May 2020 22:50:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11ECF22042; Tue, 5 May 2020 22:50:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V (81-174-202-163.bbplus.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net [81.174.202.163] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 045LoaKh004953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 May 2020 22:50:36 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Seth Johnson'" Cc: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 22:50:35 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <08de01d62327$35bd6670$a1383350$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQF2SMPiUxj2+21Ci9oZ1R0FjIo3kqlZuyDg Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 81.174.202.163 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-25402.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--1.797-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--1.797-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-25402.000 X-TMASE-Result: 10--1.797100-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 7ySqCuYCpfix4Q5iE/G4VS0UvD/exuSe6uVri61Nit+iUP5F9sCEME6l aHN753rYNqDpgPtSs/s4UdH/QrYsprmvMSppeWbNZ93oz43dfXG8dr6FG8BQfU+86maMM3aShLa hz3M4gnHi8zVgXoAltlwtzewu2M63O8ZE7kaaS4RTqzaeVVOfNUwQJkEy6Z1wjaPj0W1qn0TGVu WouVipcppICyVsuF7PiKZWeylDQW9xdYPwABHELRaBD/1/g+b0WG5qfNQeH0TEKh5bR1PYFof8k K+K1APpIcrpoIxNunWiPKQz22GTEVZca9RSYo/b X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Internetgovtech] Can you hold off on closing the list? Re: Closing the list X-BeenThere: internetgovtech@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Governance and IETF technical work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 21:50:42 -0000 Hi Seth, > Please don't close this list, as there will be work to do here. I'd be really interested to know what you have in mind. Thanks, Adrian