From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue May 1 08:25:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D7821E80F7 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 08:25:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1yV8wlWGL6JE for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 08:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695CF21E80D9 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 08:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C0795CD; Tue, 1 May 2012 11:25:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EC879595 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 11:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wgbfg15 with SMTP id fg15so465224wgb.11 for ; Tue, 01 May 2012 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YGflAawl3ZjxrPLgxPUqXBsfK8ed0jhZQ0OFLae9sMs=; b=eoCVE0Ytyb+Mv2nCmsq5ZA5JyrCa60IsZa38um37JkUePrFBVVvv4aslGAcvpDoKNP xT36WM/1EQ10l5qX7nV7bnKIRoxYpafpfPjCpS4eyBDCqD6LCOyOfVEa6LWVcSkR21qo g+mKgWWu9Ts9NKVBT8l+1Z9L46q2nr7K+yMELuSkdcyxW7xsKpRJsJzXMUED6wBmUxse WEk2BImYJ8ZrFm/hB0P3lsD9hGgHGkYS6VKJfH0BYF4ERM+2K8FJXXIkg2/iqnvcFMXg PMbKZIhWaUeaTiOj9KQQr77EvkUXwx/qMiNLirfI6gesQjqUdTek0al0m5GOu6dyy7gL S5Tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.83.198 with SMTP id s6mr6007147wiy.8.1335885909095; Tue, 01 May 2012 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.143.18 with HTTP; Tue, 1 May 2012 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0C8CDB25-56C3-4DAD-8C99-689F17F5489D@apple.com> References: <0C8CDB25-56C3-4DAD-8C99-689F17F5489D@apple.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:25:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [IPP] What natural-language registry is used by IPP? From: Ira McDonald To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2083833022==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 6E7C0795CD.AAA71 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============2083833022== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442726c1273f804befb2dea --f46d0442726c1273f804befb2dea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Per the IETF RFC Index, the latest successors to RFC 1766 are: 5646 Tags for Identifying Languages. A. Phillips, Ed., M. Davis, Ed.. September 2009. (Format: TXT=208592 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC4646) (Also BCP0047) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE) 4647 Matching of Language Tags. A. Phillips, M. Davis. September 2006. (Format: TXT=45595 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC3066) (Also BCP0047) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE) Language tags can now include embedded tags for scripts, geographic regions (not just countries), variants, and private use tags. Parsing language tags is no longer simple. Beware that they embedded the script tag (if present) BEFORE the region tag (e.g., 'US'). Naive parsers will fail badly. See the ABNF on pages 5-6 of RFC 5646. Reference libraries for parsing do exist. Both simple language tags (e.g., 'en') and simple region tags (e.g., 'US') can now be EITHER 2 or 3 characters. Script tags must be exactly 4 characters. Variant tags can be 5-8 characters. See the examples right after the ABNF. Of course the fixed language and country tags of 2 characters in the Printer MIB v2 are broken - they were broken when it was published, but I failed to convince the other editors to let me fix it (many naive clients would have been broken). BEWARE: 3-character language tags are in common use and are in fact preferred where an older 2-character tag was already registered (I can't explain why - never understood it). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Glen, > > On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote: > > Can someone provide me the reference for the natural-language registry is > used by IPP?**** > > > From RFC 2911: > > 4.1.8 'naturalLanguage' > > The 'naturalLanguage' attribute syntax is a standard identifier for a > natural language and optionally a country. The values for this > syntax type are defined by RFC 1766 [RFC1766 ]. Though RFC 1766 > requires that the values be case-insensitive US-ASCII [ASCII ], IPP > requires all lower case to simplify comparing by IPP clients and > Printer objects. Examples include: > > 'en': for English > 'en-us': for US English > 'fr': for French > 'de': for German > > The maximum length of 'naturalLanguage' values used to represent IPP > attribute values is 63 octets. > > > which leads to RFC 3282 (the replacement), which references ISO 639, > 639-2, 3166, and 15924. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0442726c1273f804befb2dea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Per the IETF RFC Index, the latest successors to RFC 1766 are:
5646 Tags for Identifying Languages. A. Phillips, Ed., M. Davis, Ed..=
=A0=A0=A0=A0 September 2009. (Format: TXT=3D208592 bytes) (Obsoletes RF= C4646) (Also
=A0=A0=A0=A0 BCP0047) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE)

4647 Matching = of Language Tags. A. Phillips, M. Davis. September 2006.
=A0=A0=A0=A0 (F= ormat: TXT=3D45595 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC3066) (Also BCP0047) (Status:
= =A0=A0=A0=A0 BEST CURRENT PRACTICE)

Language tags can now include embedded tags for scripts,
geographic= regions (not just countries), variants, and private
use tags.

P= arsing language tags is no longer simple.=A0 Beware that they
embedded t= he script tag (if present) BEFORE the region tag
(e.g., 'US').=A0 Naive parsers will fail badly.=A0 See the ABNF on<= br>pages 5-6 of RFC 5646.=A0 Reference libraries for parsing do
exist.
Both simple language tags (e.g., 'en') and simple region tags=
(e.g., 'US') can now be EITHER 2 or 3 characters.=A0 Script
tags= must be exactly 4 characters.=A0 Variant tags can be 5-8
characters.=A0= See the examples right after the ABNF.

Of course the fixed language= and country tags of 2 characters
in the Printer MIB v2 are broken - they were broken when it
was publishe= d, but I failed to convince the other editors to let
me fix it (many nai= ve clients would have been broken).

BEWARE:=A0 3-character language = tags are in common use
and are in fact preferred where an older 2-character tag was
already reg= istered (I can't explain why - never understood it).

Cheers,
= - Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Li= nux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP= WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded= Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-944-0094
Summer=A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2= 434



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Glen,

On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:
Can someone provide me the referen= ce for the natural-language registry is used by IPP?

From RFC 2911:


4.1.8 'naturalLanguage&#=
39;


   The 'naturalLanguage' attribute syntax is a standard identifier =
for a
   natural language and optionally a country.  The values for this
   syntax type are defined by RFC 1766 [RFC1766].  Though RFC 1766
   requires that the values be case-insensitive US-ASCII [ASCII], IPP
   requires all lower case to simplify comparing by IPP clients and
   Printer objects.  Examples include:

      'en':  for English
      'en-us': for US English
      'fr': for French
      'de':  for German

   The maximum length of 'naturalLanguage' values used to represent=
 IPP
   attribute values is 63 octets.

which lea= ds to RFC 3282 (the replacement), which references ISO 639, 639-2, 3166, an= d 15924.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System=A0Engineer, PWG Chair


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The= following link points to 3066 AND 3282: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1766 3282 has not been updated. 3066 points to 4646 and 4647, and 4646 points to 5646. So the currently-in-effect RFCs (replacing 1766) are: RFC 3282: Content Language Headers RFC 4647: Matching of Language Tags RFC 5646: Tags for Identifying Languages I am not going to rant about what the ISO and IETF have done to language ta= gs. However, I do think it would be useful to add some text to IPP Everywhe= re to talk about the current state of affairs and some general guidelines, = namely: 1. Use the rules in RFC 4647 for matching language tags. 2. Validate language tag values by supported characters - lowercase letters= , digits, and "-". 3. Do not support extended ISO 639 language codes since technically they vi= olate RFC 5656 (which requires the shortest ISO 639 code be used); for exam= ple, "english" is not OK but "en", "en-us", "en-uk", etc. are fine. 4. Expect Clients to make requests with language codes that do not match th= e generated-natural-language-supported values but map to them using the mat= ching rules in #1. For #4 the common issues I've dealt with in CUPS are: - "no" (formerly "Norwegian Bokm=E5l) is now "nb" for clarity; the other (l= ess) common language in Norway is "Norwegian Nynorsk" ("nn"). - "zh-cn" is now "zh-hans", "zh-hans-cn", or "zh-hant-cn" (based on usage o= n Linux/UNIX) - "zh-tw" is now "zh-hant", "zh-hans-tw", or "zh-hant-tw" (based on usage o= n Linux/UNIX) The latter issue is the one that causes the greatest interoperability issue= s, and one that I have fielded many bugs for in CUPS. In some future relea= se libcups will have a secret decoder ring API that does matching and subst= itution in the face of two different language codes that mean the same thin= g. Thoughts? On May 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Per the IETF RFC Index, the latest successors to RFC 1766 are: >=20 > 5646 Tags for Identifying Languages. A. Phillips, Ed., M. Davis, Ed.. > September 2009. (Format: TXT=3D208592 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC4646) (Al= so > BCP0047) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE) >=20 > 4647 Matching of Language Tags. A. Phillips, M. Davis. September 2006. > (Format: TXT=3D45595 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC3066) (Also BCP0047) (Stat= us: > BEST CURRENT PRACTICE) >=20 > Language tags can now include embedded tags for scripts,=20 > geographic regions (not just countries), variants, and private=20 > use tags. >=20 > Parsing language tags is no longer simple. Beware that they > embedded the script tag (if present) BEFORE the region tag > (e.g., 'US'). Naive parsers will fail badly. See the ABNF on > pages 5-6 of RFC 5646. Reference libraries for parsing do > exist. >=20 > Both simple language tags (e.g., 'en') and simple region tags > (e.g., 'US') can now be EITHER 2 or 3 characters. Script > tags must be exactly 4 characters. Variant tags can be 5-8 > characters. See the examples right after the ABNF. >=20 > Of course the fixed language and country tags of 2 characters > in the Printer MIB v2 are broken - they were broken when it > was published, but I failed to convince the other editors to let > me fix it (many naive clients would have been broken). >=20 > BEWARE: 3-character language tags are in common use > and are in fact preferred where an older 2-character tag was > already registered (I can't explain why - never understood it). >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Glen, >=20 > On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote: >> Can someone provide me the reference for the natural-language registry i= s used by IPP? >=20 >=20 > From RFC 2911: >=20 >=20 > 4.1.8 'naturalLanguage' >=20 > The 'naturalLanguage' attribute syntax is a standard identifier for a > natural language and optionally a country. The values for this > syntax type are defined by RFC 1766 [RFC1766]. Though RFC 1766 > requires that the values be case-insensitive US-ASCII [ASCII], IPP > requires all lower case to simplify comparing by IPP clients and > Printer objects. Examples include: >=20 > 'en': for English > 'en-us': for US English > 'fr': for French > 'de': for German >=20 > The maximum length of 'naturalLanguage' values used to represent IPP > attribute values is 63 octets. >=20 > which leads to RFC 3282 (the replacement), which references ISO 639, 639-= 2, 3166, and 15924. >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_GoIk+PzMCpUV9MU/EMhG5w) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ira,

Th= ere appears to be a serious issue with how the IETF is tracking 1766. The f= ollowing link points to 3066 AND 3282:


3282 has not been updated.

3066 points to 4646 and 4647, and 4646 points to 5646.

So the currently-in-effect RFCs (replacing 1766) are:<= /div>

    RFC 3282: Content Language Head= ers
    RFC 4647: Matching of Language Tags
<= div>    RFC 5646: Tags for Identifying Languages

I am not going to rant about what the ISO and IETF have done to la= nguage tags. However, I do think it would be useful to add some text to IPP= Everywhere to talk about the current state of affairs and some general gui= delines, namely:

1. Use the rules in RFC 4647 for = matching language tags.

2. Validate language tag v= alues by supported characters - lowercase letters, digits, and "-".

3. Do not support extended ISO 639 language codes since t= echnically they violate RFC 5656 (which requires the shortest ISO 639 code = be used); for example, "english" is not OK but "en", "en-us", "en-uk", etc.= are fine.

4. Expect Clients to make requests with= language codes that do not match the generated-natural-language-supported = values but map to them using the matching rules in #1.

=
For #4 the common issues I've dealt with in CUPS are:

- "no" (formerly "Norwegian Bokm=E5l) is now "nb" for clarity= ; the other (less) common language in Norway is "Norwegian Nynorsk" ("= nn").
- "zh-cn" is now "zh-hans", "zh-hans-cn", or "zh-hant-cn" (= based on usage on Linux/UNIX)
- "zh-tw" is now "zh-hant", "zh-han= s-tw", or "zh-hant-tw" (based on usage on Linux/UNIX)

The latter issue is the one that causes the greatest interoperabil= ity issues, and one that I have fielded many bugs for in CUPS.  In som= e future release libcups will have a secret decoder ring API that does matc= hing and substitution in the face of two different language codes that mean= the same thing.

Thoughts?



On May 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Ira McDonald wr= ote:

Hi,

Per the IETF RFC Index, the latest successors to RFC = 1766 are:

5646 Tags for Identifying Languages. A. Phillips, Ed., M. = Davis, Ed..
     September 2009. (Format: TXT=3D2085= 92 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC4646) (Also
     BCP0047) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE)

46= 47 Matching of Language Tags. A. Phillips, M. Davis. September 2006.
&nb= sp;    (Format: TXT=3D45595 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC3066) (Also= BCP0047) (Status:
     BEST CURRENT PRACTICE)

Language tags can now include embedded tags for scripts,
geographic= regions (not just countries), variants, and private
use tags.

P= arsing language tags is no longer simple.  Beware that they
embedde= d the script tag (if present) BEFORE the region tag
(e.g., 'US').  Naive parsers will fail badly.  See the ABNF onpages 5-6 of RFC 5646.  Reference libraries for parsing do
exist.<= br>
Both simple language tags (e.g., 'en') and simple region tags
(e.g., 'US') can now be EITHER 2 or 3 characters.  Script
tags must= be exactly 4 characters.  Variant tags can be 5-8
characters. = ; See the examples right after the ABNF.

Of course the fixed languag= e and country tags of 2 characters
in the Printer MIB v2 are broken - they were broken when it
was publishe= d, but I failed to convince the other editors to let
me fix it (many nai= ve clients would have been broken).

BEWARE:  3-character langua= ge tags are in common use
and are in fact preferred where an older 2-character tag was
already reg= istered (I can't explain why - never understood it).

Cheers,
- Ir= a


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP= WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded= Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
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Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  = 48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Glen,

On Apr 30, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:
Can someone provide me the referen= ce for the natural-language registry is used by IPP?

From RFC 2911:


4.1.8 'naturalLanguage'
=


   The 'naturalLanguage' attribute syntax is a standard identifier for a
   natural language and optionally a country.  The values for this
   syntax type are defined by RFC 1766 [RFC1766].  Though RFC 1766
   requires that the values be case-insensitive US-ASCII [ASCII], IPP
   requires all lower case to simplify comparing by IPP clients and
   Printer objects.  Examples include:

      'en':  for English
      'en-us': for US English
      'fr': for French
      'de':  for German

   The maximum length of 'naturalLanguage' values used to represent IPP
   attribute values is 63 octets.

which lea= ds to RFC 3282 (the replacement), which references ISO 639, 639-2, 3166, an= d 15924.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/MSN2.= 0-additions-proposal.pdf

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Thread-Index: Ac0n7lZMFRXCsRWQSLuHyDcYqw86TQCI9juw References: <0C8CDB25-56C3-4DAD-8C99-689F17F5489D@apple.com> <6B7EFA06-AF57-43A3-B33F-BDF2DE47A839@apple.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" To: "Michael Sweet" , "Ira McDonald" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2012 16:56:22.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[D580FD60:01CD2A16] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1829381398==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 349427962B.A90E4 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1829381398== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD2A16.D552A5B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD2A16.D552A5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike=20 =20 ________________________________ =20 =20 I am not going to rant about what the ISO and IETF have done to language tags. However, I do think it would be useful to add some text to IPP Everywhere to talk about the current state of affairs and some general guidelines, namely: =20 [gwp] I believe it would also be useful. After investigating languages tags over the last few days; it can be quite complex since only do you have the ISO (639-X) tags but Microsoft has a list, XML has a list, ....................... it appears that everyone has their own list. While most list overlap, it still looks a ""little"" messy. I believe this discussion is important to both IPP AND to Cloud.=20 =20 <... snip ...>=20 =20 3. Do not support extended ISO 639 language codes since technically they violate RFC 5656 (which requires the shortest ISO 639 code be used); for example, "english" is not OK but "en", "en-us", "en-uk", etc. are fine =20 [gwp] I did not understand that ISO 639 (-3) was using "english" as a tag but was using "eng"; I understand that the new ISO 639 tags are three chars in length and I have not discovered extensions (eng-xxx); yet! Note that ISO 639-3 has some 8000+ tags; so that some "secret decoder ring". =20 [gwp] Question: Should PWG create it own list of language tags? The list could be based on what is generally used by everyone else but not all of the ones in ISO 639-3. I do not know if a language tag hierarchy exists that would reduce the ISO 639-3 list down to more manageable list of tags. =20 glen =20 =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD2A16.D552A5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mike

 

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<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> 

 

I am not going to rant about what the ISO and IETF have done to language tags. However, I do think it would be useful to add some text to I= PP Everywhere to talk about the current state of affairs and some general guidelines, namely:

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> 

[gwp] I believe it would also be useful.  After investigating languages tags over the last few days; it= can be quite complex since only do you have the ISO (639-X) tags but Microsoft = has a list, XML has a list, …………………..= it appears that everyone has their own list.   While most list overl= ap, it still looks a “”little”” messy.   I believe this discussion is important to both IPP AND to Cloud. <= /span>

 

<… snip …> =

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> 

3. Do not support extended ISO 639 language codes since technically they violate RFC 5656 (which requires the shortest ISO 639 code be used); f= or example, "english" is not OK but "en", "en-us"= ;, "en-uk", etc. are fine

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> 

[gwp] I did not understand that ISO = 639 (-3) was using “english" as a tag but was using “eng”= ;; I understand that the new ISO 639 tags are three chars in length and I have n= ot discovered extensions (eng-xxx); yet!  Note that ISO 639-3 has some 80= 00+ tags; so that some “secret decoder ring”.

 

[gwp] Question: Should PWG create it= own list of language tags?  The list could be based on what is generally u= sed by everyone else but not all of the ones in ISO 639-3.  I do not know = if a language tag hierarchy exists that would reduce the ISO 639-3 list down to = more manageable list of tags.

 

glen

 

 


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Do not support extended ISO 639 language codes since technically they = violate RFC 5656 (which requires the shortest ISO 639 code be used); for ex= ample, "english" is not OK but "en", "en-us", "en-uk", etc. are fine >=20=20 > [gwp] I did not understand that ISO 639 (-3) was using =93english" as a t= ag but was using =93eng=94; I understand that the new ISO 639 tags are thre= e chars in length and I have not discovered extensions (eng-xxx); yet! Not= e that ISO 639-3 has some 8000+ tags; so that some =93secret decoder ring= =94. My example wasn't necessarily the best; will update accordingly. As for the decoder ring, I'm fine keeping the list short to those people ar= e actually using widely (which keeps us to around 50 or so...) > [gwp] Question: Should PWG create it own list of language tags? The list= could be based on what is generally used by everyone else but not all of t= he ones in ISO 639-3. I do not know if a language tag hierarchy exists tha= t would reduce the ISO 639-3 list down to more manageable list of tags. I would not want the PWG to tackle defining its own registry - that way lie= s madness... :) IANA already has a registry that we can (and should) use. However I am not= opposed to providing an example list of common language tags and aliases, = with a pointer to the IANA registry as the definitive source. Ideally this= should be part of an implementer's guide, but since I don't think we want = to update RFC 3196 it can go in a non-normative appendix that references RF= C 3196 as part of IPP Everywhere. __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_zt8QJDhiTljdZm0vPExViA) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Glen,






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Mike

 

And yes, it is a mess... :(

 

[gwp] No kidding; this looks worse and bigger than ISO 639-3!!!!

 

Again thanks.

 

glen

 

From: Michael = Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1= 0:20 AM
To: Petrie, Glen
Subject: Re: [IPP] What natural-language registry is used by IPP?

 

Glen,

 

The IANA language subtag registry is here:=

 

 

 

 

 

On May 4, 2012, at 10:15 AM, "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com&g= t; wrote:



Mike,

 

 

 

 

IANA already has a registry that we can (and should) use.  How= ever I am not opposed to providing an example list of common language tags and aliases, with a pointer to the IANA registry as the definitive source.  Ideally this should be part of an implementer's guide, but since I do= n't think we want to update RFC 3196 it can go in a non-normative appendix that references RFC 3196 as part of IPP Everywhere.

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>[gwp] What is the name of the IANA registry?   I can find stuff on “format” but not a li= st.

 

Thanks ahead of time, glen

 

__________________________________________________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer,= PWG Chair

 


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Mike

 

<…snip…>

I would not want the PWG to tackle defining its own registry - that= way lies madness... :)

<= span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> 

[gwp] what I really meant was someth= ing like MSN.   I would hope that most major languages, like media si= zes, are “established”; so it is a matter of defining a set appropriate for print.

 

Glen

 


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From: Ira McDonald To: "Petrie, Glen" , Ira McDonald X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1710514844==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 24FBE795E8.A9BA8 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1710514844== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0418262843508304bf641078 --f46d0418262843508304bf641078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I agree w/ Mike about an Informative appendix in IPP Everywhere that updates IPP/1.1 Implementor's Guide (RFC 3196) with a good discussion of matching of (underspecified and overspecified) tags for natural languages. Glen - note that the IANA subtag registry was machine-generated by Doug Ewell in collaboration with the actual ISO standard groups that produced all the source tags - this registry was verified by folks from Unicode Consortium, Microsoft, Google, and others active in the IETF LTRU WG - I was active for ten years in this IETF WG. I would not characterize that IANA registry as "a mess" - it's used in the message catalog and text processing software in a lot of operating systems and all major web browsers. Tricky - yes - that's the point of lifting examples from RFC 4647 to show the language tag matching rules in practice. The list for printers of 50 common natural languages is useless - I've seen plenty of printers that support 100 or more. But document DATA can be in any language (not just the console ones in IPP generated-natural-language-supported) and UTF-8 or other Unicode transcoding content can be correctly rendered using the correct glyphs for the script and language by printers from many manufacturers. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Petrie, Glen wr= ote: > Mike**** > > ** ** > > And yes, it is a mess... :(**** > > ** ** > > [gwp] No kidding; this looks worse and bigger than ISO 639-3!!!!**** > > ** ** > > Again thanks.**** > > ** ** > > glen**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2012 10:20 AM > *To:* Petrie, Glen > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] What natural-language registry is used by IPP?**** > > ** ** > > Glen,**** > > ** ** > > The IANA language subtag registry is here:**** > > ** ** > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On May 4, 2012, at 10:15 AM, "Petrie, Glen" > wrote:**** > > > > **** > > Mike,******** > > **** > > **** > ------------------------------ > > **** > > **** > > IANA already has a registry that we can (and should) use. However I am > not opposed to providing an example list of common language tags and > aliases, with a pointer to the IANA registry as the definitive source. > Ideally this should be part of an implementer's guide, but since I don't > think we want to update RFC 3196 it can go in a non-normative appendix th= at > references RFC 3196 as part of IPP Everywhere.******** > > **** > > [gwp] What is the name of the IANA registry? I can find stuff on > =93format=94 but not a list.******** > > **** > > Thanks ahead of time, glen******** > > ** ** > > __________________________________________________**** > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair**** > > ** ** > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0418262843508304bf641078 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I agree w/ Mike about an Informative appendix in IPP Everywhere<= br>that updates IPP/1.1 Implementor's Guide (RFC 3196) with a good
d= iscussion of matching of (underspecified and overspecified) tags
for nat= ural languages.

Glen - note that the IANA subtag registry was machine-generated
by D= oug Ewell in collaboration with the actual ISO standard groups
that prod= uced all the source tags - this registry was verified by folks
from Unic= ode Consortium, Microsoft, Google, and others active in
the IETF LTRU WG - I was active for ten years in this IETF WG.

I wou= ld not characterize that IANA registry as "a mess" - it's use= d in
the message catalog and text processing software in a lot of opera= ting
systems and all major web browsers.

Tricky - yes - that's the po= int of lifting examples from RFC 4647 to
show the language tag matching = rules in practice.

The list for printers of 50 common natural langua= ges is useless - I've
seen plenty of printers that support 100 or more.

But document DATA = can be in any language (not just the console ones
in IPP generated-natur= al-language-supported) and UTF-8 or other
Unicode transcoding content ca= n be correctly rendered using the
correct glyphs for the script and language by printers from many
manufa= cturers.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Softwa= re Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - I= EEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Petrie, = Glen <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com> wrote:

Mike

=A0

And yes, it is a mess... :(

=A0

[gwp] No kidding; this looks worse and bigger than I= SO 639-3!!!!

=A0

Again thanks.

=A0

glen

=A0<= /u>

From: Michael Sw= eet [mailto:msweet@apple.= com]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1= 0:20 AM
To: Petrie, Glen
Subject: Re: [IPP] What natural-language registry is used by IPP?

=A0

Glen,

=A0

The IANA language subtag registry is here:=

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

On May 4, 2012, at 10:15 AM, "Petrie, Glen"= ; <glen.= petrie@eitc.epson.com> wrote:



Mike,

=A0

=A0

=A0

=A0

IANA already has a registry that we can (and should)= use. =A0However I am not opposed to providing an example list of common language tags and aliases, with a pointer to the IANA registry as the definitive source. =A0Ideally this should be part of an implementer's guide, but since I d= on't think we want to update RFC 3196 it can go in a non-normative appendix that references RFC 3196 as part of IPP Everywhere.<= /span>

=A0

[gwp] What is the name o= f the IANA registry?=A0=A0 I can find stuff on =93format=94 but not a list.<= /u>

=A0

Thanks ahead o= f time, glen

=A0

____________________________________= ______________

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing Syste= m=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

=A0


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At= least some of the did-not-finish issues I reported at the face-to-face app= ear to have been caused by unsupported document formats (i.e. text/plain wa= s not supported!?!) When I switched to the PostScript test file for two of = the failing printers they were able to print the file and complete the test= suite (although still not perfectly...)

I am modi= fying my testing framework to lookup the supported formats for each printer= and updating the test file to more gracefully deal with this situation so = we can still complete the remainder of the tests.

________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E09795EF; Tue, 8 May 2012 15:04:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C273795E8 for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 15:04:10 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay11.apple.com ([17.128.113.48]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0M3P00LVUWXQL321@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:03:52 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807130-b7f3b6d000001041-8b-4fa96e17bf5c Received: from [17.151.73.204] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.73.204]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id AC.58.04161.71E69AF4; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:03:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 12:03:51 -0700 Message-id: <066D974A-C141-4A47-9E73-599827B657E7@apple.com> References: To: Barry Leiba X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1460) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3zjK5E3kp/gx8PJCwOLb7EajHt+jRG i2P7XrJYHPkWa/Gp9SOTxYWWl2wW3Q+msFi8nbCL3WLN+/ksDpwef99/YPLYevIHm8f1v+2M Hi2repk9jp9x9ji+RMRj3uLpTB6bPnSzejz49Y01gDOKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK2PFpcfsBbt0 K859/crewPhMpYuRk0NCwETi67qFrBC2mMSFe+vZuhi5OIQEpjJJNG5Zxw6SEBYwl5i0Yi4T iM0roCcx8/RiMJtZQEdi59Y7bCA2m4CaxO9JfWCDOAUCJV70n2QEsVkEVCR23tjCDDKUWWAl o8Tlc7sZIZq1JZYtfM0MMdRGYlXfHiCbA2hzgMSrAzogYREBTYnnn6cwQRwnK7FsyS2WCYz8 s5CcMQvJGbOQTF3AyLyKUbAoNSex0tBQL7GgICdVLzk/dxMjKPgbCg12MK79yX+IUYCDUYmH V/HFcn8h1sSy4srcQ4wSHMxKIryz1Ff6C/GmJFZWpRblxxeV5qQWH2KU5mBREuc9ILvAX0gg PbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cC4WmvnjRyRigOC29Kdfr4qezAz7vKqnO9uHBLMKmdPbq4z4zvI HZttuv+jeonXOt+jvvXWK8/ov3H8cv2+pd5UBvsG/xMMezlu7+A9IBggeOeV8O4vJgeitiZY lOv/uSf/aMYEDY04z1srWJl6nfYG7TznrdGsn7whh31O4ebW2k8PKibM8diixFKckWioxVxU nAgADvStAHoCAAA= X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: robert.herriot@pahv.xerox.com, sisaacson@novell.com, debryro@uvsc.edu, presnick@qualcomm.com, ipp@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2911 (3072) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 62E09795EF.A90BF X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Barry, I did finally locate the discussions concerning this in the minutes of the Cloud Imaging WG at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-concall-minutes-20110822.pdf The proposed errata simply removes the multiple document job restriction of the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute so that single document and multiple document jobs are processed consistently. That is the interpretation the Printer Working Group is using for all of its standards, including pending extensions to IPP for the IPP Everywhere project which introduces new attributes and operations to support printing from mobile devices to servers without printer-specific driver software: http://www.pwg.org/ipp The "multiple-document-handling" attribute (and the interpretation that it also applies to single document jobs) is part of this work. Related activities in the Semantic Model WG (PWG Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities) and Cloud Imaging WG (Cloud Print Model and Requirements, Cloud Multifunction Model and Requirements) also make use of this attribute. There are even multifunction services (e.g. Copy) that do not have documents in their jobs, yet multiple-document-handling (and its equivalent Semantic Model element) is still used to indicate how copies are produced. (However, since RFC 2911 describes the Print service it is only useful for multiple-document-handling to apply to jobs with one or more documents...) Hope this helps to clear things up! On May 7, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > Michael, et al, > > I'm looking at handling this errata report, and I'd like to try to get > some clarification before I do. I'm copying the ipp@pwg.org list, so > this message will probably need moderation there. > > The report refers to "consensus of the IPP working group in the > Printer Working Group," which is not the same as referring to > consensus of the long-closed IPP working group in the IETF. If you > can show me some evidence of what that group's consensus was at the > time, and that the text in the document is perhaps a copy/paste error > that does not reflect that original consensus, then I can verify this > erratum. > > It also strikes me that the right correction might be, "This attribute > is relevant only if a job consists of more than one document or > requests more than one copy." > > My inclination is to mark this "hold for document update", so that > people looking at errata will see that it's there, but will understand > that fixing it right will take a little more document work than just a > quick erratum. But I'm not sure yet, so I'm looking for more input. > Please discuss this with me, and give me some of that input. > > Thanks, > Barry Leiba, IETF Applications Area Director > >> From: RFC Errata System >> Subject: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2911 (3072) >> Date: January 4, 2012 9:57:41 AM PST >> To: sisaacson@novell.com, tom.hastings@alum.mit.edu, robert.herriot@pahv.xerox.com, >> debryro@uvsc.edu, papowell@astart.com, presnick@qualcomm.com, stpeter@stpeter.im, >> carl@manros.com >> Cc: msweet@apple.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >> >> >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2911, >> "Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2911&eid=3072 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Michael Sweet >> >> Section: 4.2.4 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> This attribute is relevant only if a job consists of two or more >> documents. This attribute MUST be supported with at least one value >> >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> This attribute is relevant to jobs consisting of one or more >> documents. This attribute MUST be supported with at least one value >> >> >> Notes >> ----- >> Per consensus of the IPP working group in the Printer Working Group, the >> "multiple-document-handling" attribute *is* applicable to single-document jobs >> since it is the only common attribute that can be used to request copy collation. >> >> The other collation attribute ("sheet-collate" from RFC3381])interacts with >> "multiple-document-handling" in some non-obvious ways and requires clients >> and printers to support two different attributes for simple collation. The "sheet-collate" >> attribute also does not address how finishing options are applied to copies while >> "multiple-document-handling" does. >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC2911 (draft-ietf-ipp-model-v11-07) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics >> Publication Date : September 2000 >> Author(s) : T. Hastings, Ed., R. Herriot, R. deBry, S. Isaacson, P. Powell >> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >> Source : Internet Printing Protocol >> Area : Applications >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 9 12:25:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F1B11E80D1 for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8rdNTwzAL3tM for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB13211E80CC for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B090C79593; Wed, 9 May 2012 15:25:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr001.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.9]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9524F7956E; Wed, 9 May 2012 15:24:52 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgBAIjDqk8NKeYgmWdsb2JhbABBA4JGsHciAQEBAQEICwsHFCeCDgMCDwEMEQMkCywBKgYMCwEHRRIBBAESCAGICKgZAZNyiyWCToJIYwSIZJhaiAmBPg Received: from usa7109ht002.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.32]) by USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 09 May 2012 14:24:51 -0500 Received: from USA0300GW001.na.xerox.net (13.135.209.15) by USA7109HT002.na.xerox.net (13.41.230.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 9 May 2012 14:24:50 -0500 Received: from USA7061MS04.na.xerox.net ([13.151.235.15]) by USA0300GW001.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 May 2012 15:23:51 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 12:23:47 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PJT update (minor editorial fix) Thread-Index: Ac0uGUHtELJmvtxmRm2VH1oubPyyhg== From: "Zehler, Peter" To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2012 19:23:51.0431 (UTC) FILETIME=[440C0170:01CD2E19] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: Subject: [IPP] PJT update (minor editorial fix) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0030330184==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: B090C79593.A8784 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0030330184== Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD2E19.431F8B6A" ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD2E19.431F8B6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I have posted an update to the PJT specification. 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I have posted an update to the PJT specification.&n= bsp; The updated specification, rev version and Last Call comments are avai= lable from the Semantic Model page:

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In doing some research on what is allowed for a name value, it seems that RFC 2911 and 3196 don't go beyond referencing the RFCs defining UTF-8 (3629) and US-ASCII (2045), and I don't see anything in those documents that would prevent the use of control characters in the range of 0 to 31 (decimal). Appendix B of RFC 5198 (Unicode Format for Network Interchange) talks a bit about this issue but doesn't make any normative requirements. Given the interoperability and security implications of control characters in name and text values, I would like to document the issues and possibly add some normative requirements. Here is what I'd like to add to IPP Everywhere: 1. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer name values containing control characters. For US-ASCII that covers the characters from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and for UTF-8/Unicode it covers the characters from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and 0x80 to 0x9F (C1). 2. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer text values containing control characters other than CR and LF. 3. Implementation guidance for Create-Job/Print-Job/Print-URI: Printers MAY filter out disallowed characters in job-name but MUST return job-name in the unsupported attributes group. Status code is client-error-unsupported-attributes-or-values (for ipp-attribute-fidelity=true or job-mandatory-attributes=job-name) or successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes (otherwise). 4. Add discussion of security considerations for logging of control characters, specific reference to RFC 5198. Thoughts? __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_hfOrTXdeiTJfoyok72L0HQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I= recently got a CUPS bug report (http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4072) where control characters in the = job-name value were causing problems with a particular IPP printer.

In doing some research on what is allowed for a name valu= e, it seems that RFC 2911 and 3196 don't go beyond referencing the RFCs def= ining UTF-8 (3629) and US-ASCII (2045), and I don't see anything in those d= ocuments that would prevent the use of control characters in the range of 0= to 31 (decimal).  Appendix B of RFC 5198 (Unicode Format for Network = Interchange) talks a bit about this issue but doesn't make any normative re= quirements.

Given the interoperability and securit= y implications of control characters in name and text values, I would like = to document the issues and possibly add some normative requirements. H= ere is what I'd like to add to IPP Everywhere:

1. = Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer name values containing con= trol characters. For US-ASCII that covers the characters from 0x00 to 0x1F = (C0) and for UTF-8/Unicode it covers the characters from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) = and 0x80 to 0x9F (C1).

2. Clients and Printers MUS= T NOT accept or transfer text values containing control characters other th= an CR and LF.

3. Implementation guidance for Creat= e-Job/Print-Job/Print-URI: Printers MAY filter out disallowed characters in= job-name but MUST return job-name in the unsupported attributes group. Sta= tus code is client-error-unsupported-attributes-or-values (for ipp-attribut= e-fidelity=3Dtrue or job-mandatory-attributes=3Djob-name) or successful-ok-= ignored-or-substituted-attributes (otherwise).

4. = Add discussion of security considerations for logging of control characters= , specific reference to RFC 5198.

Thoughts?
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To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent link-local addresses in URIs. Two separate (and incompatible) methods have been proposed for IPv6 addresses: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt (expired) http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01 However, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossible for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local address because zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the name of the network interface on the client. What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is: 1. Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Printer because the zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the Printer. 2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/provide URI values using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in preference to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols. Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses. 3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host HTTP request header is important. 4. Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks - Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, including "localhost". 5. Add security considerations text referencing security consideration in current mDNS draft. Thoughts? __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_zatUyCQgFIunMroMBZvThA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

A= nother issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local addre= sses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server.

To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how = to represent link-local addresses in URIs.  Two separate (and incompat= ible) methods have been proposed for IPv6 addresses:

    http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt &= nbsp;     (expired)

Howeve= r, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossibl= e for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local address beca= use zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the name of the= network interface on the client.

What I'd like to= do in IPP Everywhere is:

1. Add rationale of= not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and other = URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Print= er because the zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the P= rinter.

2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUS= T NOT transfer/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transf= er/provide URIs values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, = SHOULD transfer/provide URI values using fully qualified domain names = (FQDNs) in preference to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide= URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configu= ration protocols. Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported val= ues to cover all of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric address= es.

3. Add implementation discussion where the pri= nter can tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the c= lient HTTP request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-in= fo are not as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplie= d in the Host HTTP request header is important.

4.= Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks = - Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, i= ncluding "localhost".

5. Add security consideratio= ns text referencing security consideration in current mDNS draft.

Thoughts?

__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing S= ystem Engineer, PWG Chair


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This is the dredded ASCII "DEL" character. > > Here's a couple of quick links to some ASCII tables: > > http://www.asciitable.com/ > http://www.table-ascii.com/ > > Sincerely, > > Jim Young > Long ago print server implementer > > On 5/10/12 1:24 PM, "Michael Sweet" wrote: > >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> I recently got a CUPS bug report (http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4072) >> where control characters in the job-name value were causing problems with >> a particular IPP printer. >> >> >> In doing some research on what is allowed for a name value, it seems that >> RFC 2911 and 3196 don't go beyond referencing the RFCs defining UTF-8 >> (3629) and US-ASCII (2045), and I don't see anything in those documents >> that would prevent the use of control >> characters in the range of 0 to 31 (decimal). Appendix B of RFC 5198 >> (Unicode Format for Network Interchange) talks a bit about this issue but >> doesn't make any normative requirements. >> >> >> Given the interoperability and security implications of control >> characters in name and text values, I would like to document the issues >> and possibly add some normative requirements. Here is what I'd like to >> add to IPP Everywhere: >> >> >> 1. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer name values >> containing control characters. For US-ASCII that covers the characters >> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and for UTF-8/Unicode it covers the characters >> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and 0x80 to 0x9F (C1). >> >> >> 2. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer text values >> containing control characters other than CR and LF. >> >> >> 3. Implementation guidance for Create-Job/Print-Job/Print-URI: Printers >> MAY filter out disallowed characters in job-name but MUST return job-name >> in the unsupported attributes group. Status code is >> client-error-unsupported-attributes-or-values (for >> ipp-attribute-fidelity=true >> or job-mandatory-attributes=job-name) or >> successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes (otherwise). >> >> >> 4. Add discussion of security considerations for logging of control >> characters, specific reference to RFC 5198. >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner , and is >> >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu May 10 13:31:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F67C11E808E for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.331 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.331 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.267, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DP+9LZztj0Vx for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277E021F8643 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2DD79622; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:31:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0653F79613 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wibhm4 with SMTP id hm4so919835wib.11 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9jPj8JhypnA4Jh2B4lmW1NGvaLwyLgF4tMFSn5vbQqM=; b=BWKM8DL0jtWOmPUQPSjxXY12Eb7iTsGs+mUH18Sjx0uWUWwrpXRnvtfWHHm5NhkzoI 60aIK3Kd2NMqcAotuRgcoapui+p277Tuw3OtdJPKAiL9L6+L3QvGnnBjmpHk1Rg8EHhC LrBinZtnnACDbdeIVF0EDurSPuYG/qi5C+wb22/MbIVKouZjIq313CWSfFBQj2RNWFwG dkl0K585EOKhaGfp70ljdI6TCmfVJUUb7Kfj7k4ZsFN88b7Alnfh8bBBpX2AB79O6ZKl 8BHDFq8AbHClnzUH3HTG+PMaDd97z07kI8jWftEjQ+leJIN0ReJcSEwNMbrQP8NBAuTY 1DFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.97.41 with SMTP id dx9mr886604wib.9.1336681852633; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.3.132 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:30:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: job-name and allowed characters, additions to IPP Everywhere From: Ira McDonald To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" , James Howard Young X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0809461276==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: CB2DD79622.AAB41 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0809461276== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044306740102aa04bfb47f95 --f46d044306740102aa04bfb47f95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Thanks for the DEL catch James! Mike - bullet (2) (MUST NOT accept/transfer controls except CR or LF) runs afoul of the ABNF for "ipp-printer-device-id" in [PWG5107.2] which also allows HT (per IEEE 1284 parent spec). And for attributes shared/coordinated w/ IETF or PWG MIBs, note that DisplayString (RFC 2579) allows NVT-ASCII per TELNET (RFC 853), which defines several control characters but allows *all* of the C0 control characters. Examples of ASCII attributes include: sysDescr, sysName, sysLocation, sysContact, and hrDeviceDescr. Examples of ambiguous (OCTET STRING) charset attributes (often UTF-8) include: prtGeneralPrinterName, prtGeneralServicePerson, and prtGeneralCurrentOperator, and prtGeneralSerialNumber. I have personally seen quite a few MIB walks of printers w/ HT and/or VT in their sysLocation or sysContact values. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Good catch, yes DEL should also be banned (it is in 5198) > > On May 10, 2012, at 10:57 AM, James Howard Young wrote: > > > Hello Michael, > > > > If you wish to disallow US-ASCII CONTROL chararacters in name > > values (and this is probably a good thing) then you might > > also want to consider disallowing decimal 127 (0x7f, octal 177) > > as well. This is the dredded ASCII "DEL" character. > > > > Here's a couple of quick links to some ASCII tables: > > > > http://www.asciitable.com/ > > http://www.table-ascii.com/ > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jim Young > > Long ago print server implementer > > > > On 5/10/12 1:24 PM, "Michael Sweet" wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> All, > >> > >> > >> I recently got a CUPS bug report (http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4072) > >> where control characters in the job-name value were causing problems > with > >> a particular IPP printer. > >> > >> > >> In doing some research on what is allowed for a name value, it seems > that > >> RFC 2911 and 3196 don't go beyond referencing the RFCs defining UTF-8 > >> (3629) and US-ASCII (2045), and I don't see anything in those documents > >> that would prevent the use of control > >> characters in the range of 0 to 31 (decimal). Appendix B of RFC 5198 > >> (Unicode Format for Network Interchange) talks a bit about this issue > but > >> doesn't make any normative requirements. > >> > >> > >> Given the interoperability and security implications of control > >> characters in name and text values, I would like to document the issues > >> and possibly add some normative requirements. Here is what I'd like to > >> add to IPP Everywhere: > >> > >> > >> 1. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer name values > >> containing control characters. For US-ASCII that covers the characters > >> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and for UTF-8/Unicode it covers the characters > >> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and 0x80 to 0x9F (C1). > >> > >> > >> 2. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer text values > >> containing control characters other than CR and LF. > >> > >> > >> 3. Implementation guidance for Create-Job/Print-Job/Print-URI: Printers > >> MAY filter out disallowed characters in job-name but MUST return > job-name > >> in the unsupported attributes group. Status code is > >> client-error-unsupported-attributes-or-values (for > >> ipp-attribute-fidelity=true > >> or job-mandatory-attributes=job-name) or > >> successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes (otherwise). > >> > >> > >> 4. Add discussion of security considerations for logging of control > >> characters, specific reference to RFC 5198. > >> > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner , and is > >> > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d044306740102aa04bfb47f95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Thanks for the DEL catch James!

Mike - bullet (2) (MUST N= OT accept/transfer controls except CR or LF)
runs afoul of the ABNF for = "ipp-printer-device-id" in [PWG5107.2] which
also allows HT (p= er IEEE 1284 parent spec).

And for attributes shared/coordinated w/ IETF or PWG MIBs, note thatDisplayString (RFC 2579) allows NVT-ASCII per TELNET (RFC 853),
which d= efines several control characters but allows *all* of the C0 control
characters.

Examples of ASCII attributes include:=A0 sysDescr, sysNa= me, sysLocation,
sysContact,=A0and hrDeviceDescr.

Examples of amb= iguous (OCTET STRING) charset attributes (often UTF-8)
include: prtGene= ralPrinterName, prtGeneralServicePerson, and
prtGeneralCurrentOperator, and prtGeneralSerialNumber.

I have person= ally seen quite a few MIB walks of printers w/ HT and/or VT
in their sys= Location or sysContact values.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Good catch, yes DEL should also be banned (it is in 5198)

On May 10, 2012, at 10:57 AM, James Howard Young <jyoung@gsu.edu> wrote:

> Hello Michael,
>
> If you wish to disallow US-ASCII CONTROL chararacters in name
> values (and this is probably a good thing) then you might
> also want to consider disallowing decimal 127 (0x7f, octal 177)
> as well. =A0This is the dredded ASCII "DEL" character.
>
> Here's a couple of quick links to some ASCII tables:
>
> =A0http://www= .asciitable.com/
> =A0http://ww= w.table-ascii.com/
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim Young
> Long ago print server implementer
>
> On 5/10/12 1:24 PM, "Michael Sweet" <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>> I recently got a CUPS bug report (http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4072)
>> where control characters in the job-name value were causing proble= ms with
>> a particular IPP printer.
>>
>>
>> In doing some research on what is allowed for a name value, it see= ms that
>> RFC 2911 and 3196 don't go beyond referencing the RFCs definin= g UTF-8
>> (3629) and US-ASCII (2045), and I don't see anything in those = documents
>> that would prevent the use of control
>> characters in the range of 0 to 31 (decimal). =A0Appendix B of RFC= 5198
>> (Unicode Format for Network Interchange) talks a bit about this is= sue but
>> doesn't make any normative requirements.
>>
>>
>> Given the interoperability and security implications of control
>> characters in name and text values, I would like to document the i= ssues
>> and possibly add some normative requirements. Here is what I'd= like to
>> add to IPP Everywhere:
>>
>>
>> 1. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer name values
>> containing control characters. For US-ASCII that covers the charac= ters
>> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and for UTF-8/Unicode it covers the charact= ers
>> from 0x00 to 0x1F (C0) and 0x80 to 0x9F (C1).
>>
>>
>> 2. Clients and Printers MUST NOT accept or transfer text values
>> containing control characters other than CR and LF.
>>
>>
>> 3. Implementation guidance for Create-Job/Print-Job/Print-URI: Pri= nters
>> MAY filter out disallowed characters in job-name but MUST return j= ob-name
>> in the unsupported attributes group. Status code is
>> client-error-unsupported-attributes-or-values (for
>> ipp-attribute-fidelity=3Dtrue
>> or job-mandatory-attributes=3Djob-name) or
>> successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes (otherwise).
>>
>>
>> 4. Add discussion of security considerations for logging of contro= l
>> characters, specific reference to RFC 5198.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> This message has been scanned for viruses and
>> dangerous content by MailScanner <http://www.mailscanner.info/&= gt;, and is
>>
>> believed to be clean.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

__________________________________________________
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Does this also apply to ZeroConf IPv4 link-local addresses? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > Another issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local > addresses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server. > > To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent > link-local addresses in URIs. Two separate (and incompatible) methods have > been proposed for IPv6 addresses: > > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt > (expired) > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01 > > However, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still > impossible for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local > address because zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the > name of the network interface on the client. > > What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is: > > 1. Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresses in > printer-uri-supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric addresses > cannot be represented by the Printer because the zone identifier is > specific to the Client and not the Printer. > > 2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/provide URI > values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs values > using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/provide > URI values using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in preference to > numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric > addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols. Printers > MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all of the > configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses. > > 3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor the > addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP request; > printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as > flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host > HTTP request header is important. > > 4. Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks - > Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, > including "localhost". > > 5. Add security considerations text referencing security consideration in > current mDNS draft. > > Thoughts? > > __________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d044306744412b604bfb6deb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike,

I concur w/ this I believe, certainly for IPv6 link-local a= ddresses.

Does this also apply to ZeroConf IPv4 link-local addresses= ?

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician /= Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF D= esignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-944-0094
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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
All,

Another issue t= hat has come to light recently is the use of link-local addresses by printe= rs that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server.

To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represe= nt link-local addresses in URIs. =A0Two separate (and incompatible) methods= have been proposed for IPv6 addresses:

=A0 =A0 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt = =A0 =A0 =A0 (expired)

However, even if one of these= methods is eventually adopted it is still impossible for a Printer to adve= rtise the correct URI with a link-local address because zoneid strings are = system-specific - they are basically the name of the network interface on t= he client.

What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is:

1.=A0Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresse= s in printer-uri-supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric address= es cannot be represented by the Printer because=A0the zone identifier is sp= ecific to the Client and not the Printer.

2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfe= r/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide UR= Is values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transf= er/provide URI values using=A0fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in prefe= rence to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values usin= g numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols= . Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all= of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses.

3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can = tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTT= P request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are no= t as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the = Host HTTP request header is important.

4. Add security considerations text talking about=A0DNS= rebinding attacks - Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or inv= alid Host values, including "localhost".

5. Add security considerations text referencing security consideration in c= urrent mDNS draft.

Thoughts?

__________= ________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System=A0Engineer, PWG Chair


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= On May 10, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mike,

I concur w/ this I believe, certainly for IPv6 li= nk-local addresses.

Does this also apply to ZeroConf IPv4 link-local= addresses?

Yes, all link-local addresses ha= ve this issue, however the problem with IPv4 link-local addresses is typica= lly mitigated by only having a single network interface bound to the link-l= ocal subnet (e.g. cross-over cable direct to printer) while IPv6 allows lin= k-local on any subnet so clients can't make any assumptions if they have mo= re than one network interface (pretty much the norm these days...)

_________________= _________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior P= rinting System Engineer, PWG Chair


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I have no problem adding HT as an allowed character. I am less inclined to allow VT mainly because I see it rarely and there is no "standard" vertical tab spacing as there is for HT (8 columns for most terminal emulators and web browsers). But even HT is problematic for display (less so for parsing and logging). > And for attributes shared/coordinated w/ IETF or PWG MIBs, note that > DisplayString (RFC 2579) allows NVT-ASCII per TELNET (RFC 853), > which defines several control characters but allows *all* of the C0 control > characters. > > Examples of ASCII attributes include: sysDescr, sysName, sysLocation, > sysContact, and hrDeviceDescr. We can define how such values are mapped; realistically I think that we can simply state that any mapping of SNMP properties to IPP attributes MUST include filtering of control characters not allowed by the corresponding attribute type. (and for things that *are* a direct mapping like prtAlert, prtMarkerSupply, etc. we use octetString which will remain unaffected...) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_tKT/bL2Qwx1rwhJo7RzygA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ira,

On = May 10, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the DEL catch James!

Mike - bullet (2) (MUST= NOT accept/transfer controls except CR or LF)
runs afoul of the ABNF fo= r "ipp-printer-device-id" in [PWG5107.2] which
also allows HT (per IEEE = 1284 parent spec).

I have no problem adding = HT as an allowed character.  I am less inclined to allow VT mainl= y because I see it rarely and there is no "standard" vertical tab spacing a= s there is for HT (8 columns for most terminal emulators and web browsers).=  But even HT is problematic for display (less so for parsing and logg= ing).

And for attributes shared/coordinated w/ IETF or PWG MIBs, note that
Dis= playString (RFC 2579) allows NVT-ASCII per TELNET (RFC 853),
which defin= es several control characters but allows *all* of the C0 control
characters.

Examples of ASCII attributes include:  sysDescr, sy= sName, sysLocation,
sysContact, and hrDeviceDescr.
=

We can define how such values are mapped; realistically= I think that we can simply state that any mapping of SNMP properties to IP= P attributes MUST include filtering of control characters not allowed by th= e corresponding attribute type.

(and for things th= at *are* a direct mapping like prtAlert, prtMarkerSupply, etc. we use octet= String which will remain unaffected...)

_________________________________________________= ________
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Everything else is ok, right? Randy On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, >=20 > Another issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local ad= dresses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server. >=20 > To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent link-l= ocal addresses in URIs. Two separate (and incompatible) methods have been = proposed for IPv6 addresses: >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt (expi= red) > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01 >=20 > However, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still i= mpossible for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local addr= ess because zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the nam= e of the network interface on the client. >=20 > What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is: >=20 > 1. Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri= -supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be rep= resented by the Printer because the zone identifier is specific to the Clie= nt and not the Printer. >=20 > 2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/provide URI valu= es using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs values using th= e Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/provide URI val= ues using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in preference to numeric add= resses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses = obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols. Printers MAY adver= tise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all of the configured F= QDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses. >=20 > 3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor the address= es reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP request; printer= -icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as flexible as p= rinter-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host HTTP request = header is important. >=20 > 4. Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks -= Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, in= cluding "localhost". >=20 > 5. Add security considerations text referencing security consideration in= current mDNS draft. >=20 > Thoughts? >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Apple-Mail=_B5536386-5AA2-41EC-B210-FA2E8BFB9978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Hi Mike,

Can you just simplify 1-3 below by saying i= mplementations MUST NOT use literal link-local addresses in URI values?

Everything else is ok, right?

Randy


On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 AM= , Michael Sweet wrote:

All,

Ano= ther issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local address= es by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server.
<= div>
To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to= represent link-local addresses in URIs.  Two separate (and incompatib= le) methods have been proposed for IPv6 addresses:

    http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt &nb= sp;     (expired)

However,= even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossible = for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local address becaus= e zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the name of the n= etwork interface on the client.

What I'd like to d= o in IPP Everywhere is:

1. Add rationale of n= ot using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and other UR= I values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Printer= because the zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the Pri= nter.

2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST = NOT transfer/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer= /provide URIs values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SH= OULD transfer/provide URI values using fully qualified domain names (F= QDNs) in preference to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide U= RI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configura= tion protocols. Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported value= s to cover all of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses= .

3. Add implementation discussion where the print= er can tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the cli= ent HTTP request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info= are not as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied = in the Host HTTP request header is important.

4. A= dd security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks - = Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, inc= luding "localhost".

5. Add security considerations= text referencing security consideration in current mDNS draft.
<= br>
Thoughts?

__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing S= ystem Engineer, PWG Chair


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If the printer reports a .local name the the resource won't be accessible from outside the subnet. Similarly, if you get foo.example.com a client might not be able to resolve that if it doesn't have a proper dns server configured... Sent from my iPad On May 10, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Randy Turner wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > Can you just simplify 1-3 below by saying implementations MUST NOT use literal link-local addresses in URI values? > > Everything else is ok, right? > > Randy > > > On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> All, >> >> Another issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local addresses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server. >> >> To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent link-local addresses in URIs. Two separate (and incompatible) methods have been proposed for IPv6 addresses: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt (expired) >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01 >> >> However, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossible for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local address because zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the name of the network interface on the client. >> >> What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is: >> >> 1. Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Printer because the zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the Printer. >> >> 2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/provide URI values using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in preference to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols. Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses. >> >> 3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host HTTP request header is important. >> >> 4. Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks - Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, including "localhost". >> >> 5. Add security considerations text referencing security consideration in current mDNS draft. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_ksOlnRfCIUO4kqTew3Zz3w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Randy,

The main issue is link local, but when you start getting a mix of tr= aditional and multicast host names being used (common for today's network p= rinters) with a new reliance on the information supplied by the printer, it= is really important that the client be able to use it... If the printer re= ports a .local name the the resource won't be accessible from outside the s= ubnet. Similarly, if you get foo.example= .com a client might not be able to resolve that if it doesn't have a pr= oper dns server configured...


Sent from my iPa= d

On May 10, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Can you just simplify 1-3 below by sayi= ng implementations MUST NOT use literal link-local addresses in URI values?=

Everything else is ok, right?

Randy


On May 10, 2012, at 10:5= 9 AM, Michael Sweet wrote:

All,

Another issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local add= resses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server.

To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address ho= w to represent link-local addresses in URIs.  Two separate (and incomp= atible) methods have been proposed for IPv6 addresses:

=

Howe= ver, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossi= ble for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local address be= cause zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the name of t= he network interface on the client.

What I'd like = to do in IPP Everywhere is:

1. Add rationale = of not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and othe= r URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Pri= nter because the zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the= Printer.

2. Add normative requirement: Printers M= UST NOT transfer/provide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD tran= sfer/provide URIs values using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request= , SHOULD transfer/provide URI values using fully qualified domain name= s (FQDNs) in preference to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provi= de URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-confi= guration protocols. Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported v= alues to cover all of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addre= sses.

3. Add implementation discussion where the p= rinter can tailor the addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the= client HTTP request; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-= info are not as flexible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value suppl= ied in the Host HTTP request header is important.

= 4. Add security considerations text talking about DNS rebinding attack= s - Printers SHOULD NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values,= including "localhost".

5. Add security considerat= ions text referencing security consideration in current mDNS draft.

Thoughts?

__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing S= ystem Engineer, PWG Chair


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Which, to your point, is an important concept. Given the ubiquity of this requirement in client/server scenarios, there's = probably language that we can borrow that describes this requirement. OR w= e could keep it abstract, similar to the way I have described it above. By the way, in your earlier #2 proposal, there was text that said "...SHOUL= D NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP= or other auto-configuration protocols." I don't think is correct -- we want to be able to use IPv6 literal addresse= s that are global in scope, or it would seem like we would want to -- and g= lobal-scope IPv6 addresses can be autoconfigured via DHCP or SLAAC. Comments? R. On May 10, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Mike Sweet wrote: > Randy, >=20 > The main issue is link local, but when you start getting a mix of traditi= onal and multicast host names being used (common for today's network printe= rs) with a new reliance on the information supplied by the printer, it is r= eally important that the client be able to use it... If the printer reports= a .local name the the resource won't be accessible from outside the subnet= . Similarly, if you get foo.example.com a client might not be able to resol= ve that if it doesn't have a proper dns server configured... >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On May 10, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Randy Turner wro= te: >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> Can you just simplify 1-3 below by saying implementations MUST NOT use l= iteral link-local addresses in URI values? >>=20 >> Everything else is ok, right? >>=20 >> Randy >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>=20 >>> All, >>>=20 >>> Another issue that has come to light recently is the use of link-local = addresses by printers that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server. >>>=20 >>> To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent link= -local addresses in URIs. Two separate (and incompatible) methods have bee= n proposed for IPv6 addresses: >>>=20 >>> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-fenner-literal-zone-02.txt (ex= pired) >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01 >>>=20 >>> However, even if one of these methods is eventually adopted it is still= impossible for a Printer to advertise the correct URI with a link-local ad= dress because zoneid strings are system-specific - they are basically the n= ame of the network interface on the client. >>>=20 >>> What I'd like to do in IPP Everywhere is: >>>=20 >>> 1. Add rationale of not using link-local numeric addresses in printer-u= ri-supported and other URI values: Link-local numeric addresses cannot be r= epresented by the Printer because the zone identifier is specific to the Cl= ient and not the Printer. >>>=20 >>> 2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/provide URI va= lues using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs values using = the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/provide URI v= alues using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in preference to numeric a= ddresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresse= s obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols. Printers MAY adv= ertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all of the configured= FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses. >>>=20 >>> 3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor the addre= sses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP request; print= er-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as flexible as= printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host HTTP reques= t header is important. >>>=20 >>> 4. 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Ok, so you'= re surfacing an issue that is pretty common in a client-server scenario: &n= bsp;a "service" should always advertise a contact point that is resolvable(= name) and reachable(address) by any and all potential clients of the servic= e.  Which, to your point, is an important concept.

= Given the ubiquity of this requirement in client/server scenarios, there's = probably language that we can borrow that describes this requirement.  = ;OR we could keep it abstract, similar to the way I have described it above= .

By the way, in your earlier #2 proposal, there w= as text that said "...SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric = addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols."

I don't think is correct -- we want to be able to use IPv= 6 literal addresses that are global in scope, or it would seem like we woul= d want to -- and global-scope IPv6 addresses can be autoconfigured via DHCP= or SLAAC.

Comments?

R.


On May 10, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Mike Sweet wro= te:

=
Randy,

The main issu= e is link local, but when you start getting a mix of traditional and multic= ast host names being used (common for today's network printers) with a new = reliance on the information supplied by the printer, it is really important= that the client be able to use it... If the printer reports a .local name = the the resource won't be accessible from outside the subnet. Similarly, if= you get foo.example.com a client m= ight not be able to resolve that if it doesn't have a proper dns server con= figured...


Sent from my iPad

On = May 10, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> wrote:



Hi Mike,
Can you just simplify 1-3 below by saying implementations = MUST NOT use literal link-local addresses in URI values?

Everything else is ok, right?

Randy


On May 10, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Michael Sweet= wrote:

All,

Another issue that= has come to light recently is the use of link-local addresses by printers = that haven't gotten an IP address from a DHCP server.

<= div>To summarize the issue: RFC 3986 does not address how to represent link= -local addresses in URIs.  Two separate (and incompatible) methods hav= e been proposed for IPv6 addresses:


However, even if one of= these methods is eventually adopted it is still impossible for a Printer t= o advertise the correct URI with a link-local address because zoneid string= s are system-specific - they are basically the name of the network interfac= e on the client.

What I'd like to do in IPP Everyw= here is:

1. Add rationale of not using link-l= ocal numeric addresses in printer-uri-supported and other URI values: Link-= local numeric addresses cannot be represented by the Printer because t= he zone identifier is specific to the Client and not the Printer.

2. Add normative requirement: Printers MUST NOT transfer/pr= ovide URI values using link-local addresses, SHOULD transfer/provide URIs v= alues using the Host supplied in the Client HTTP request, SHOULD transfer/p= rovide URI values using fully qualified domain names (FQDNs) in prefer= ence to numeric addresses, and SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using= numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols.= Printers MAY advertise multiple printer-uri-supported values to cover all = of the configured FQDNs and non-link-local numeric addresses.
3. Add implementation discussion where the printer can tailor t= he addresses reported to the Host: value supplied in the client HTTP reques= t; printer-icons, printer-supply-info-uri, printer-more-info are not as fle= xible as printer-uri-supported, so using the value supplied in the Host HTT= P request header is important.

4. Add security con= siderations text talking about DNS rebinding attacks - Printers SHOULD= NOT allow requests with unknown or invalid Host values, including "localho= st".

5. Add security considerations text referenci= ng security consideration in current mDNS draft.

T= houghts?

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From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri May 11 08:31:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C139B21F86E4 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.486 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.486 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.112, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cTHvhDg9+Swz for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B711F21F86E2 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE73B79661; Fri, 11 May 2012 11:31:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (bramley.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B7B7958F for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 11:31:20 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay13.apple.com ([17.128.113.29]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0M3V0054N73TD440@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:20 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180711d-b7f406d000004330-24-4fad30c685d9 Received: from [17.151.76.199] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.76.199]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 21.27.17200.7C03DAF4; Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] RFC: Link local addresses in URIs, addition for IPP Everywhere From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:31:20 -0700 Message-id: <142E2FD4-6937-40D8-9DAD-2163F1C5F4D8@apple.com> References: <3D2ADC61-4FA2-4079-84DA-CE2BEBCFECD7@apple.com> <81374AA4-BA37-4AA2-8086-64F7B8E578D1@apple.com> To: Randy Turner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1460) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3nuO4Jg7X+Bn1H2CyO7XvJYnHkW6zF nrV/2ByYPZaf/MLssfXkDzaPeYunMwUwR3HZpKTmZJalFunbJXBlzDl9hLXgvFHFlTldrA2M r7S6GDk5JARMJB7f28wCYYtJXLi3ng3EFhKYyiTRcEYJxBYWCJJY/H8yO4jNK6AnMfP0YiYQ m1kgQaJ74jSwXjYBNYnfk/pYQWxOAVeJpifXmUFsFgFVibf7HzBC1PNLHOz9wAwxx0aib/0h oHouoF33GSXu35oENkhEQEei7ek5qINkJZYtucUygZFvFpLds5DshrC1JZYtfM08i5EDyNaR mLyQEVUYwv54/gjTAka2VYyCRak5iZWGxnqJBQU5qXrJ+bmbGEFh21Aou4Nx/0/+Q4wCHIxK PLwbX632F2JNLCuuzD3EKMHBrCTCe093rb8Qb0piZVVqUX58UWlOavEhRmkOFiVx3jhpoJRA emJJanZqakFqEUyWiYNTqoExMNp7VV7TAa3f6faLe4SrpNdNW+QSv0f135TVlk4O7jvYTunH dammTdoc7qEtc7yyMVy6ejcb89w9ZZzXkqJ0OLcyT3/4/OrrvwviS0TOdlqeL7lzzefeusaH G9Y9lc9bsnm6kvZU422rLS6/+CFqslNE9Pyixs8LFgmXqJusmMxhwqCiubZEiaU4I9FQi7mo OBEAcQ3sdlcCAAA= X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: ipp@pwg.org X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1192299601==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: CE73B79661.A95E7 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1192299601== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZCKl8jjG/gMvVJ0X0UtHQQ)" --Boundary_(ID_ZCKl8jjG/gMvVJ0X0UtHQQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Randy, On May 10, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Randy Turner wrote: > > Ok, so you're surfacing an issue that is pretty common in a client-server scenario: a "service" should always advertise a contact point that is resolvable(name) and reachable(address) by any and all potential clients of the service. Which, to your point, is an important concept. However, it is very common for printers to be reachable by multiple names and addresses. For example, "foo.example.com" may resolve to an external address for VPN users while "foo.local" resolves to an internal address for local users. If you attempt to connect to "foo.example.com" from the internal network you'll typically get a "no route to host" error when you connect. Also, domains are often used as different security domains (think Active Directory...) which have similar routing issues as well as any additional access control that might be involved. My recommendation is simply there to address the resource lookups *after* discovery - most discovery protocols will give you a current address, port, and resource path for the IPP print service, but not for the supporting resources (localization file, icons, profiles, etc.) that can be queried. And those resources don't have to be printer resident so a client can't make any assumptions about the values returned by the printer! > ... > By the way, in your earlier #2 proposal, there was text that said "...SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protocols." > > I don't think is correct -- we want to be able to use IPv6 literal addresses that are global in scope, or it would seem like we would want to -- and global-scope IPv6 addresses can be autoconfigured via DHCP or SLAAC. Yes we want to be able to use them, but both the IPP URI scheme and pending IPPS URI scheme recommend against it (per IETF policy) and DHCP addresses are almost always TEMPORARY. You don't want to make a long-term binding to a numeric address, particularly in a mobile environment. __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_ZCKl8jjG/gMvVJ0X0UtHQQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Randy,

= On May 10, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Randy Turner <rturner@amalfisystems.com> wrote:

Ok, so you're sur= facing an issue that is pretty common in a client-server scenario:  a = "service" should always advertise a contact point that is resolvable(name) = and reachable(address) by any and all potential clients of the service. &nb= sp;Which, to your point, is an important concept.
However, it is very common for printers to be reachable by multiple= names and addresses. For example, "foo.= example.com" may resolve to an external address for VPN users while "fo= o.local" resolves to an internal address for local users.  If you atte= mpt to connect to "foo.example.com" = from the internal network you'll typically get a "no route to host" error w= hen you connect.

Also, domains are often used as d= ifferent security domains (think Active Directory...) which have similar ro= uting issues as well as any additional access control that might be involve= d.

My recommendation is simply there to address th= e resource lookups *after* discovery - most discovery protocols will give y= ou a current address, port, and resource path for the IPP print service, bu= t not for the supporting resources (localization file, icons, profiles, etc= .) that can be queried.  And those resources don't have to be printer = resident so a client can't make any assumptions about the values returned b= y the printer!

...
By the way, in your earlier #2 propo= sal, there was text that said "...SHOULD NOT transfer/provide URI values us= ing numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-configuration protoco= ls."

I don't think is correct -- we want to be abl= e to use IPv6 literal addresses that are global in scope, or it would seem = like we would want to -- and global-scope IPv6 addresses can be autoconfigu= red via DHCP or SLAAC.

Yes we want t= o be able to use them, but both the IPP URI scheme and pending IPPS URI sch= eme recommend against it (per IETF policy) and DHCP addresses are almost al= ways TEMPORARY.  You don't want to make a long-term binding to a numer= ic address, particularly in a mobile environment.


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The VPN-name vs. LAN-name situation is normally cleared up by 2-headed DNS,= which most companies employ all the time -- that's not a problem we need t= o solve. Like all service configurations, administratives have to "do the = right thing" when they configure their servers. "printer.foo.com" when res= olved internally would map to the LAN IP, when "printer.foo.com" is resolve= d externally, it maps to some other IP that is exposed through the firewall. I think my earlier statement regarding service "visibility" covers any poss= ible client/server scenario, if we wanted to reuse that language in some fa= shion. I agree with the recommendation about not using literal IP addresses in URI= s, especially with IPv6, since that's a bit messy. That's probably a SHOU= LD NOT USE type of recommendation. While it may be possible for a device to advertise multiple URIs for both t= he principal service, and other URIs (identifying different physical server= s) for associated resources, I hope this is the exception and not the rule = -- in fact, I would say we need a recommendation that says IPP Everywhere d= eployments SHOULD NOT use disseparate servers -- it makes the overall aggre= gate "uptime" for the service questionable, and creates potentially complic= ated policies for defaults if/when these associates resources are (for some= reason) not available. R. On May 11, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Randy, >=20 > On May 10, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Randy Turner wr= ote: >>=20 >> Ok, so you're surfacing an issue that is pretty common in a client-serve= r scenario: a "service" should always advertise a contact point that is re= solvable(name) and reachable(address) by any and all potential clients of t= he service. Which, to your point, is an important concept. >=20 > However, it is very common for printers to be reachable by multiple names= and addresses. For example, "foo.example.com" may resolve to an external a= ddress for VPN users while "foo.local" resolves to an internal address for = local users. If you attempt to connect to "foo.example.com" from the inter= nal network you'll typically get a "no route to host" error when you connec= t. >=20 > Also, domains are often used as different security domains (think Active = Directory...) which have similar routing issues as well as any additional a= ccess control that might be involved. >=20 > My recommendation is simply there to address the resource lookups *after*= discovery - most discovery protocols will give you a current address, port= , and resource path for the IPP print service, but not for the supporting r= esources (localization file, icons, profiles, etc.) that can be queried. A= nd those resources don't have to be printer resident so a client can't make= any assumptions about the values returned by the printer! >=20 >> ... >> By the way, in your earlier #2 proposal, there was text that said "...SH= OULD NOT transfer/provide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via D= HCP or other auto-configuration protocols." >>=20 >> I don't think is correct -- we want to be able to use IPv6 literal addre= sses that are global in scope, or it would seem like we would want to -- an= d global-scope IPv6 addresses can be autoconfigured via DHCP or SLAAC. >=20 > Yes we want to be able to use them, but both the IPP URI scheme and pendi= ng IPPS URI scheme recommend against it (per IETF policy) and DHCP addresse= s are almost always TEMPORARY. You don't want to make a long-term binding = to a numeric address, particularly in a mobile environment. >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Apple-Mail=_04F1D206-6245-4E24-8F2B-051C271BFD5A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hi Mik= e,

Good discussion.

= The VPN-name vs. LAN-name situation is normally cleared up by 2-headed DNS,= which most companies employ all the time -- that's not a problem we need t= o solve.  Like all service configurations, administratives have to "do= the right thing" when they configure their servers.  "printer.foo.com" when resolved internally would map= to the LAN IP, when "printer.foo.com" is resolved externally, it maps to some other IP that is exposed through= the firewall.





On May = 11, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Michael Sweet wrote:

Randy,<= div>

Ok, so you're surfacing an issue that is pretty common in a client-server = scenario:  a "service" should always advertise a contact point that is= resolvable(name) and reachable(address) by any and all potential clients o= f the service.  Which, to your point, is an important concept.

However, it is very common for printers to be rea= chable by multiple names and addresses. For example, "foo.example.com" may resolve to an external address for = VPN users while "foo.local" resolves to an internal address for local users= .  If you attempt to connect to "f= oo.example.com" from the internal network you'll typically get a "no ro= ute to host" error when you connect.

Also, domains= are often used as different security domains (think Active Directory...) w= hich have similar routing issues as well as any additional access control t= hat might be involved.

My recommendation is simply= there to address the resource lookups *after* discovery - most discovery p= rotocols will give you a current address, port, and resource path for the I= PP print service, but not for the supporting resources (localization file, = icons, profiles, etc.) that can be queried.  And those resources don't= have to be printer resident so a client can't make any assumptions about t= he values returned by the printer!

...
By the way, in y= our earlier #2 proposal, there was text that said "...SHOULD NOT transfer/p= rovide URI values using numeric addresses obtained via DHCP or other auto-c= onfiguration protocols."

I don't think is correct = -- we want to be able to use IPv6 literal addresses that are global in scop= e, or it would seem like we would want to -- and global-scope IPv6 addresse= s can be autoconfigured via DHCP or SLAAC.

Yes we want to be able to use them, but both the IPP URI scheme and = pending IPPS URI scheme recommend against it (per IETF policy) and DHCP add= resses are almost always TEMPORARY.  You don't want to make a long-ter= m binding to a numeric address, particularly in a mobile environment.
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I agree that N-headed DNS works well for managed, mostly-static infrastructure. However, dynamic consumer services like dyndns and iCloud don't (and can't, as far as I can see) work that way. For example, Apple has something called "Back to My Mac" that allows you to access your computers via iCloud, which handles setting up a secure tunnel between the two computers using your iCloud account. Part of this service is a DNS subdomain for your iCloud account, so I can access "imac27.NNNNNN.btmm.members.icloud.com" to get to my iMac at home. However, if I try to use that hostname when I am at home it won't work because the VPN address doesn't route from my home network. Similarly, I have a DynDNS account setup that allows me to access that same iMac from non-Mac computers. The DynDNS hostname works great outside my home network, but does not work on the home network. > ... > While it may be possible for a device to advertise multiple URIs for both the principal service, and other URIs (identifying different physical servers) for associated resources, I hope this is the exception and not the rule -- in fact, I would say we need a recommendation that says IPP Everywhere deployments SHOULD NOT use disseparate servers -- it makes the overall aggregate "uptime" for the service questionable, and creates potentially complicated policies for defaults if/when these associates resources are (for some reason) not available. I suspect that consumer products will "obey" this limitation, but you can expect enterprise and "prosumer" products will continue to support (re)configuration of the printer to report externally-available resources. I say "continue to" because existing IPP-based printers already support this functionality. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_nEkkc+b92WeWteGhlLJxoA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
On May 11, 2= 012, at 9:43 AM, Randy Turner wrote:


Hi Mike,

Good discussion.

The VPN-name vs. LAN-name situation is normally cleared up by = 2-headed DNS, which most companies employ all the time -- that's not a prob= lem we need to solve.

I a= gree that N-headed DNS works well for managed, mostly-static infrastructure= . However, dynamic consumer services like dyndns and iCloud don't (and can'= t, as far as I can see) work that way.

For example= , Apple has something called "Back to My Mac" that allows you to acces= s your computers via iCloud, which handles setting up a secure tunnel betwe= en the two computers using your iCloud account. Part of this service is a D= NS subdomain for your iCloud account, so I can access "imac27.NNNNNN.btmm.m= embers.icloud.com" to get to my iMac at home. However, if I try to use that= hostname when I am at home it won't work because the VPN address doesn't r= oute from my home network.

Similarly, I have= a DynDNS account setup that allows me to access that same iMac from non-Ma= c computers. The DynDNS hostname works great outside my home network, but d= oes not work on the home network.

...
While it may= be possible for a device to advertise multiple URIs for both the principal= service, and other URIs (identifying different physical servers) for assoc= iated resources, I hope this is the exception and not the rule -- in fact, = I would say we need a recommendation that says IPP Everywhere deployments S= HOULD NOT use disseparate servers -- it makes the overall aggregate "uptime= " for the service questionable, and creates potentially complicated policie= s for defaults if/when these associates resources are (for some reason) not= available.

I suspect that con= sumer products will "obey" this limitation, but you can expect enterprise a= nd "prosumer" products will continue to support (re)configuration of the pr= inter to report externally-available resources. I say "continue to" because= existing IPP-based printers already support this functionality.
=
________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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So= there would be a slight delay if you were home and wanted to access imac27= .mike.members.icloud.com (unless the home IP address was the first address = returned). It gets even more complicated if your DNS setup is dual-stack in which case= you're returning both A and AAAA records, in which case local resolver pol= icy may force a delay if clients try to resolve IPv6 before IPv4 or vice-ve= rsa. R. On May 11, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > On May 11, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Randy Turner wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Hi Mike, >>=20 >> Good discussion. >>=20 >> The VPN-name vs. LAN-name situation is normally cleared up by 2-headed D= NS, which most companies employ all the time -- that's not a problem we nee= d to solve. >=20 > I agree that N-headed DNS works well for managed, mostly-static infrastru= cture. However, dynamic consumer services like dyndns and iCloud don't (and= can't, as far as I can see) work that way. >=20 > For example, Apple has something called "Back to My Mac" that allows you = to access your computers via iCloud, which handles setting up a secure tunn= el between the two computers using your iCloud account. Part of this servic= e is a DNS subdomain for your iCloud account, so I can access "imac27.NNNNN= N.btmm.members.icloud.com" to get to my iMac at home. However, if I try to = use that hostname when I am at home it won't work because the VPN address d= oesn't route from my home network. >=20 > Similarly, I have a DynDNS account setup that allows me to access that sa= me iMac from non-Mac computers. The DynDNS hostname works great outside my = home network, but does not work on the home network. >=20 >> ... >> While it may be possible for a device to advertise multiple URIs for bot= h the principal service, and other URIs (identifying different physical ser= vers) for associated resources, I hope this is the exception and not the ru= le -- in fact, I would say we need a recommendation that says IPP Everywher= e deployments SHOULD NOT use disseparate servers -- it makes the overall ag= gregate "uptime" for the service questionable, and creates potentially comp= licated policies for defaults if/when these associates resources are (for s= ome reason) not available. >=20 > I suspect that consumer products will "obey" this limitation, but you can= expect enterprise and "prosumer" products will continue to support (re)con= figuration of the printer to report externally-available resources. I say "= continue to" because existing IPP-based printers already support this funct= ionality. >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Apple-Mail=_A7DCC6C4-E5D8-4643-A131-C1F68EF7045D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

Yes, I= understand your consumer dynamic scenario=85In the "old" days, admins woul= d configure a service name (like "printer,appl= e.com") to return multiple IP addresses, and socket API recommendations= say you're supposed to walk the list of returned addresses until you succe= ssfully connect to one.  So there would be a slight delay if you were = home and wanted to access imac27.mike.members.icloud.com (unless the home I= P address was the first address returned).

It gets= even more complicated if your DNS setup is dual-stack in which case you're= returning both A and AAAA records, in which case local resolver policy may= force a delay if clients try to resolve IPv6 before IPv4 or vice-versa.

R.

On May 11, 201= 2, at 10:25 AM, Michael Sweet wrote:


On May 11, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Randy Turner wrote:

=

Hi Mike,

Good discussion.

The VPN-name vs. LAN-name situation is normally c= leared up by 2-headed DNS, which most companies employ all the time -- that= 's not a problem we need to solve.

<= /div>
I agree that N-headed DNS works well for managed, mostly-static i= nfrastructure. However, dynamic consumer services like dyndns and iCloud do= n't (and can't, as far as I can see) work that way.

For example, Apple has something called "Back to My Mac" that allows= you to access your computers via iCloud, which handles setting up a secure= tunnel between the two computers using your iCloud account. Part of this s= ervice is a DNS subdomain for your iCloud account, so I can access "imac27.= NNNNNN.btmm.members.icloud.com" to get to my iMac at home. However, if I tr= y to use that hostname when I am at home it won't work because the VPN addr= ess doesn't route from my home network.

Simi= larly, I have a DynDNS account setup that allows me to access that same iMa= c from non-Mac computers. The DynDNS hostname works great outside my home n= etwork, but does not work on the home network.

...
While it may be possible for a device to advertise multiple URIs for both = the principal service, and other URIs (identifying different physical serve= rs) for associated resources, I hope this is the exception and not the rule= -- in fact, I would say we need a recommendation that says IPP Everywhere = deployments SHOULD NOT use disseparate servers -- it makes the overall aggr= egate "uptime" for the service questionable, and creates potentially compli= cated policies for defaults if/when these associates resources are (for som= e reason) not available.

I sus= pect that consumer products will "obey" this limitation, but you can expect= enterprise and "prosumer" products will continue to support (re)configurat= ion of the printer to report externally-available resources. I say "continu= e to" because existing IPP-based printers already support this functionalit= y.

=
_______________________________= _________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior P= rinting System Engineer, PWG Chair



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Monday 14 may 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=196599942&UID=0&PW=NZmQ4YmNmNjI1&RT=MiM0 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: pwg123 4. Click "Join". 5. Follow the instructions that appear on your screen. 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(2) Approve IPP minutes from April F2F - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20120425.pdf (3) Status of IPP JPS3 PWG Last Call (ends 18 May) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120420.pdf (4) Status of IPP Everywhere specs - planning for last calls and formal votes (5) Review of IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.pdf - to be posted tomorrow - PDF of plaintext w/ line numbers (6) Next Steps - IPP WG teleconference on Monday 28 May Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6d7ef50e22ef404bff94b42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS!

=A0 Monday 14 may 12-2pm US PDT / 3-5pm US EDT

=A0 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
=A0 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

=A0 Attendee Access Code: *******#
=A0 Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

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To join the = online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
------------------------------= -------------------------
1. Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D1965= 99942&UID=3D0&PW=3DNZmQ4YmNmNjI1&RT=3DMiM0
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is = required, enter the meeting password: pwg123
4. Click "Join".<= br>5. Follow the instructions that appear on your screen.
To view in oth= er time zones or languages, please click the link:
https://apple= inc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D196599942&UID=3D0&PW=3DNZmQ4YmNmN= jI1&ORT=3DMiM0

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For assistance
-------------------------------------------------------1. Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/mc
2. On the left navigatio= n bar, click "Support".
*** Main Objective - Review IPPS spec ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
=A0 =A0=A0 - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from April F2F
=A0=A0 =A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i= pp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20120425.pdf

(3) Status of IPP JPS3 PWG Last Call (ends 18 May)
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd= -ippjobprinterext3v10-20120420.pdf

(4) Status of IPP Everywhere = specs
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - planning for last calls and formal votes

(5) Review of IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI S= cheme
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.pdf
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - to be posted tomorrow - PDF of plaintext w/ line numbe= rs

(6) Next Steps
=A0=A0=A0=A0 - IPP WG teleconference on Monday = 28 May

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software= Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEE= E-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair= - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon May 14 05:12:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5397D21F8512 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:12:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.305 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.305 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.293, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eZxpUBvI568L for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B3D21F849A for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A383C796D2; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:12:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com (mail-we0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D1D796BA for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by weyu7 with SMTP id u7so2109955wey.5 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:11:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pnRQmBsXLqzzyjZ7nwuEcuJEtFaaF+A0mKsz0TJOJk8=; b=kIpssilySTtAWasNc7jNo2TkyY6NQUa3PlQDrBzLeiE0r2HMCvbb/LXXZMeoyONJsB spVWZv+qxlme21BwIuiKMsPFPGhbZdB06Hf28/CM8Jvxx0vh5I+1ADyIBaRUlBA6Y//e Q6h+j6P9ts86jKj+orP8S6na602lB8HxRvh13Bk/T3JrqU8dyzTOM3dSQmlQxg27JV7f A5kaallYo4/W7FkzlovlFyvRXlM28v/iRCZvAn0Iap1I/WlCNOkD35tC4khEHRLRhmWc AvBwbBiFlSI+pKVMbc32XwSFhW6TOPKcSsvdJDBsZ4C50efKKz0czIAwDVAp6i37xOj3 i+iw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.81.66 with SMTP id y2mr19344499wix.22.1336997516890; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.3.132 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2012 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:11:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ira McDonald To: ipp@pwg.org, Ira McDonald X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: Subject: [IPP] IPP over HTTP Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme (14 May 2012) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0074087991==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: A383C796D2.A993F X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0074087991== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428d2c0f530c04bffdfe0c --f46d04428d2c0f530c04bffdfe0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I've just posted another Internet-Draft of IPP over HTTP Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.txt - plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed characters) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.pdf - PDF of plaintext w/ line numbers (review *this* one) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.htm - HTML format This document has already been accepted and posted to the IETF I-D repository. This document was created by a complete rewrite IPP URI Scheme [RFC3510]. This version has numerous editorial changes from our complete review during the April F2f IPP session on 7 February 2012 - see Change History below. Comments? Cheers, - Ira ------------------------------------ Change History 14 May 2012 - draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05.txt Editorial - Global - Fixed typos and indentation, per IPP WG review. Editorial - Revised sections 3.1 and 3.2 (transport bindings) to insert missing "to" in "connection to the target endpoint", per IPP WG review. Editorial - Revised section 4.2 (syntax), to correct indentation of first "Note:", per IPP WG review. Editorial - Revised sections 5.1 and 5.2 (client/printer conformance) and section 7 (security considerations) to delete the out-of-scope normative references to [RFC2817], per IPP WG review. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d04428d2c0f530c04bffdfe0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I've just posted another Internet-Draft of IPP over HTTP Tra= nsport Binding and
'ipps' URI Schem= e to:

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/dra= ft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-05-20120514.txt
=A0- plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed= characters)

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This document has already been accepted and posted= to the IETF I-D repository.

This document was created by a complete rewrite IPP URI Scheme=A0 [RFC3510].

This version has numerous editorial changes from our comp= lete review during
the April F2f IPP session on 7 February 2012 - see C= hange History below.

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ira

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Change History

=A0=A0 14 May 2012 - draft-mc= donald-ipps-uri-scheme-05.txt

=A0=A0 Editorial - Global - Fixed typ= os and indentation, per IPP WG review.

=A0=A0 Editorial - Revised sections 3.1 and 3.2 (transport bindings) to=
=A0=A0=A0=A0 insert missing "to" in "connection to the t= arget endpoint", per IPP
=A0=A0=A0=A0 WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 = Editorial - Revised section 4.2 (syntax), to correct indentation of
=A0=A0=A0=A0 first "Note:", per IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 = Editorial - Revised sections 5.1 and 5.2 (client/printer conformance)
= =A0=A0=A0=A0 and section 7 (security considerations) to delete the out-of-s= cope
=A0=A0=A0=A0 normative references to [RFC2817], per IPP WG review.= =A0


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That's the issue - the DNS server supporting imac27.mike.members.icloud.com= doesn't report what the *local* address is since it is usually in the priv= ate space (192.168. or 10.) which isn't something you want to publish (sinc= e it is likely you'd resolve and connect to that address but be talking to = the wrong machine...) We have specific ways of dealing with this for Bonjour-registered services = - resolve the service instance name using mDNS (.local) first, then start a= resolve on the BTMM domain 1 second later - so that we prefer local servic= es over BTMM, but the same trick can't be safely used for hostnames in gene= ral and doesn't address things beyond the simple local/cloud naming issues. > It gets even more complicated if your DNS setup is dual-stack in which ca= se you're returning both A and AAAA records, in which case local resolver p= olicy may force a delay if clients try to resolve IPv6 before IPv4 or vice-= versa. IPv4/IPv6 is only one dimension. Even your traditional multiple-addresses-p= er-hostname configuration suffers from the "what address should I use" prob= lem. Some implementations try one address at a time in the order they are r= eturned, others try *all* of the addresses simultaneously (parallel threads= ) which is just nasty IMHO and breaks a lot of load balancers. By having the Printer return the host and port that the Client provided we = eliminate the guessing by the Client and allow it to do some simple caching= (i.e. this is the address that works for "foo.example.com", at least until= my network environment changes) so that things work well. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_eZbECD6pMxY1g2nvUei8MA) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Randy,

O= n May 11, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Randy Turner wrote:

Yes, I understand you= r consumer dynamic scenario=85In the "old" days, admins would configure a s= ervice name (like "printer,apple.com") to= return multiple IP addresses, and socket API recommendations say you're su= pposed to walk the list of returned addresses until you successfully connec= t to one.  So there would be a slight delay if you were home and wante= d to access imac27.mike.members.icloud.com (unless the home IP address was = the first address returned).

That's = the issue - the DNS server supporting imac27.mike.members.icloud.com doesn'= t report what the *local* address is since it is usually in the private spa= ce (192.168. or 10.) which isn't something you want to publish (since it is= likely you'd resolve and connect to that address but be talking to the wro= ng machine...)

We have specific ways of dealing wi= th this for Bonjour-registered services - resolve the service instance name= using mDNS (.local) first, then start a resolve on the BTMM domain 1 secon= d later - so that we prefer local services over BTMM, but the same trick ca= n't be safely used for hostnames in general and doesn't address things beyo= nd the simple local/cloud naming issues.

It gets even more compli= cated if your DNS setup is dual-stack in which case you're returning both A= and AAAA records, in which case local resolver policy may force a delay if= clients try to resolve IPv6 before IPv4 or vice-versa.

IPv4/IPv6 is only one dimension. Even your traditional = multiple-addresses-per-hostname configuration suffers from the "what addres= s should I use" problem. Some implementations try one address at a time in = the order they are returned, others try *all* of the addresses simultaneous= ly (parallel threads) which is just nasty IMHO and breaks a lot of load bal= ancers.

By having the Printer return the host and = port that the Client provided we eliminate the guessing by the Client and a= llow it to do some simple caching (i.e. this is the address that works for = "foo.example.com", at least until my= network environment changes) so that things work well.

________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Clients should be following the latest versions of the address-sele= ction algorithms (both source and destination) discussed in RFCs 3484, 5221= , and others. These algorithms can be bypassed or otherwise affected by lo= cal policy files as well, which can complicate developer/operational assump= tions. Randy On May 14, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Randy, >=20 > On May 11, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Randy Turner wrote: >>=20 >> Yes, I understand your consumer dynamic scenario=85In the "old" days, ad= mins would configure a service name (like "printer,apple.com") to return mu= ltiple IP addresses, and socket API recommendations say you're supposed to = walk the list of returned addresses until you successfully connect to one. = So there would be a slight delay if you were home and wanted to access ima= c27.mike.members.icloud.com (unless the home IP address was the first addre= ss returned). >=20 > That's the issue - the DNS server supporting imac27.mike.members.icloud.c= om doesn't report what the *local* address is since it is usually in the pr= ivate space (192.168. or 10.) which isn't something you want to publish (si= nce it is likely you'd resolve and connect to that address but be talking t= o the wrong machine...) >=20 > We have specific ways of dealing with this for Bonjour-registered service= s - resolve the service instance name using mDNS (.local) first, then start= a resolve on the BTMM domain 1 second later - so that we prefer local serv= ices over BTMM, but the same trick can't be safely used for hostnames in ge= neral and doesn't address things beyond the simple local/cloud naming issue= s. >=20 >> It gets even more complicated if your DNS setup is dual-stack in which c= ase you're returning both A and AAAA records, in which case local resolver = policy may force a delay if clients try to resolve IPv6 before IPv4 or vice= -versa. >=20 > IPv4/IPv6 is only one dimension. Even your traditional multiple-addresses= -per-hostname configuration suffers from the "what address should I use" pr= oblem. Some implementations try one address at a time in the order they are= returned, others try *all* of the addresses simultaneously (parallel threa= ds) which is just nasty IMHO and breaks a lot of load balancers. >=20 > By having the Printer return the host and port that the Client provided w= e eliminate the guessing by the Client and allow it to do some simple cachi= ng (i.e. this is the address that works for "foo.example.com", at least unt= il my network environment changes) so that things work well. >=20 > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Apple-Mail=_40BD4E2A-C67F-497F-AEE9-C79D72AC317F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

I mentioned= "in the old days" because most clients I'm aware of, would try multiple ad= dresses -- however, with the introduction of IPv6 and the fact that there w= ill USUALLY be multiple IP addresses (CGA, link-local, tunnels, etc.). &nbs= p;Clients should be following the latest versions of the address-selection = algorithms (both source and destination) discussed in RFCs 3484, 5221, and = others.  These algorithms can be bypassed or otherwise affected by loc= al policy files as well, which can complicate developer/operational assumpt= ions.

Randy

On May 14, 2012, at = 10:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote:

Randy,

On May 11, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Randy Turner wrote:

= That's the issue - the DNS server supporting imac27.mike.members.icloud.com= doesn't report what the *local* address is since it is usually in the priv= ate space (192.168. or 10.) which isn't something you want to publish (sinc= e it is likely you'd resolve and connect to that address but be talking to = the wrong machine...)




=
_______________________________= _________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior P= rinting System Engineer, PWG Chair



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Page 10, line 309; Reword "large attributes" to attributes with large volumes of data... Page 14, line 435 and 440; the e.g. needs a comma after in both places page 21, line 659; the i.e. needs a comma after page 31, line 898 and 915; the fully qualified name of RFC4122 doesn't need to be stated every time it's referenced, just the first time unfortunately the first time it's referenced is on page 26, line 788; where it's NOT fully qualified. (also line 962) page 33, line 963; given that any printer that supports this must support a MAX number of octets of at least 255, shouldn't the range allowance for this attribute be (integer(255;1024))? Probably should include a discussion of the number vs the password lengths possible and possibly even a discussion of appropriate length for the client to require. page 33, line 965; cross reference should be to 5.1.2 not 5.1.1. page 35, line 984; this attribute is listed a recommended but then list a case where it's required.....doesn't this end up as some sort if conditionally required state? This occurs frequently throughout the document. page 39, line 1113; this paragraph needs to be prefaced with "If this attribute is supported then this action must happen on power-up". page 46 line 1333; The ABNF cross reference in the back is for [STD68] but here it's listed by its RFC #.. I actually prefer the RFC # instead of [STD68]. page 46, line 1333; The figure reference is incorrect, should be Figure 3, not Y. page 49, line 1453; Here ABNF is referenced by [STD68], matches the reference in the back but I prefere the RFC #. page 52, line 1536; The e.g. needs a comma. page 54, line 1599; The reference to section 5.1.5 should be to 5.1.6. page 55; incorrect references to section 5.1.X in line 1605,1621,1625,1630,1634; and 1646 on next page. page 57, line 1697; The e.g. needs a comma. page 59, table 11; Bad references to section 5.1.X in two places. page 67, line 1869; See ABNF-related comments previously. page 68, line 1915; the example for the number of impressions/pages etc might be more readable if there was a table or figure along with it, as it's a pretty complex situation. page 71; Bad references to section 5.1.X in line 1961,1969,1976,....but correct in 1989, also incorrect on page 72, line 1997,2008,2009,2010 2019 and line 2039 on page 73. page 72, line 2016; Section 7.2 of what...doesn't seem to point to this document. *Jerry Thrasher *Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. 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page 31, line 898 and 915; the fully qualifie= d name of RFC4122 doesn't need to be stated every time it's referen= ced, just the first time

unfortunately the first = time it's referenced is on page 26, line 788; where it's NOT fully = qualified. (also line 962)

=A0

page 33, line 963; giv= en that any printer that supports this must support a MAX number of octets = of at least 255, shouldn't the range allowance

for this attribute be (integer(255;1024))? Probably should include a disc= ussion of the number vs the password lengths possible and possibly even

a discussion of appropriate length for the client to= require.

=A0

page 33, = line 965; cross reference should be to 5.1.2 not 5.1.1.

=A0

page 35, line 984; this attribute is listed a= recommended but then list a case where it's required.....doesn't t= his end up as some sort if

conditionally required= state?=A0 This occurs frequently throughout the document.

=A0

page 39, line 1113; th= is paragraph needs to be prefaced with "If this attribute is supported= then this action must happen on power-up".

= =A0

page 46 line 1333; The ABNF cross reference in the b= ack is for [STD68] but here it's listed by its RFC #.. I actually prefe= r the RFC #

instead of [STD68].

=A0

page 46, line 1333; The figure reference is i= ncorrect, should be Figure 3, not Y.

=A0

page 49, line 1453; Here ABNF is referenced by [STD68], m= atches the reference in the back but I prefere the RFC #.

=A0

page 52, line 1536; Th= e e.g. needs a comma.

=A0

page 54, line 1599; The reference to section 5.1.5 should be to 5.1.6.

=A0

page 55; incorrect references to section 5.1.= X in line 1605,1621,1625,1630,1634; and 1646 on next page.

=A0

page 57, line 1697; The e.g. needs = a comma.

=A0

page 59, table 11; Bad= references to section 5.1.X in two places.

=A0

page 67, line 1869; See ABNF-related comments prev= iously.

=A0

page 68, line 1915; th= e example for the number of impressions/pages etc might be more readable if= there was a table or figure along with it,

as it= 's a pretty complex situation.

=A0

page 71; Bad reference= s to section 5.1.X in line 1961,1969,1976,....but correct in 1989, also inc= orrect on page 72, line 1997,2008,2009,2010

2019 = and line 2039 on page 73.

=A0

page 72, line 2016; Se= ction 7.2 of what...doesn't seem to point to this document.

=A0

=A0

= Jerry Thrasher
Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards
Lexmark I= nternational Inc.
H0D1314/035-3, 740 West New Circle Rd, Lexington Ky 40= 550
Office: +1 859 825 4056=A0=A0=A0=A0 Fax: +1 859 232 6613
thrasher(at)lex= mark(dot)com

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charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Forwarding to IPP list for PWG Last Call quorum count. Cheers, - Ira ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ron Nevo Date: Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM Subject: Samsung has reviewed the IPP JPS3 specification and has [no] comments To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald , "ptykodi@tykodi.com" Thank You, Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certifications Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging Samsung Electronics America, Inc. Enterprise Business Division 85 Challenger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660 P 201.329.6231 C 201.220.5945 samsung.com/business -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6d62669ac926004c0198f3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Forwarding to IPP list for PWG Last Call quorum count.

Ch= eers,
- Ira



---------- Forwarded message ----------<= br>From: Ron Nevo <<= a href=3D"mailto:rnevo@sea.samsung.com">rnevo@sea.samsung.com>
Date: Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Subject: Samsung has reviewed the IP= P JPS3 specification and has [no] comments
To: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, &q= uot;ptykodi@tykodi.com" <= ptykodi@tykodi.com>


Thank You,

Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing
Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certification= s
Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging
Samsung Electronics America, Inc.
Enterprise Business Division

85 Challenger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660
P 201.329.6231
C 201.220.5945
samsung.com/busin= ess




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Thanks Mike.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira Mc= Donald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pri= nting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-= ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
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Line 369:        Should "addition device information" be "additional device information"?

Line 472:        "infrastuctures" should be "infrastructures"

Line 564:        "papr" should be "paper"



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Jay Wang
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See voting instructions below. This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the Printer MIB and IPP MFD Alerts (MFD Alerts), which is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmfdalerts10-20120517.pdf The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pmp/wd/mfdalerts-last-call-comment-resolution-20120415.txt VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start today on Thursday 17 May 2012 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 15 June 2012. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote. PWG Privacy Policy: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors. HOW TO VOTE: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: MFD Alerts Formal Vote--- Example: MFD Alerts Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes Rules: (1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" voteinto a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWGProcess/3.0. (2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWGProcess/3.0. (3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any *technical* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval. WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, MFD Alerts editor) wamwagner "at" comcast "dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS WG Co-Chair) Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the WIMS WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote). Notes: (1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. (2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf Cheers, - Ira McDonald (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6d7ef50af8df904c03d1a34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings:

VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL!=A0 See voting instructions below.=


This email initiates the Formal Approval vot= e by the PWG membership on the
Printer MIB and IPP MFD Alerts (MFD Alerts), which is located = at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmf= dalerts10-20120517.pdf

The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions = is located at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pmp/w= d/mfdalerts-last-call-comment-resolution-20120415.txt


VOTING= PERIOD:=A0 This Formal Vote will start today on = Thursday 17 May 2012
and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 15 June 2012.

Valid= votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain.


Repres= entatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to=
exercise their right to vote.

PWG Privacy Policy:=A0 Your vote is confident= ial and will not be disclosed
by PWG officers or document e= ditors.


HOW TO VOTE:

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:

= =A0 MFD Alerts Formal Vote-<company name>-&= lt;voter's last name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

Example:

=A0 MFD Alerts Formal Vote-Ac= me-McGee-Yes


Rules:

(1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST= contain
a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No"= ; vote into a
"Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote= will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0.

(2) A= ny "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, = per PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial&q= uot; comments, per PWG Process/3.0.
=A0
(4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any=A0 *t= echnical* comments, per PWG
Process/3.0.

(5) Any &qu= ot;Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval.<= br>

WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addr= esses (replacing
"dot" with '.' and "at" wit= h '@'):

msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mik= e Sweet, PWG Chair)

blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, P= WG Secretary, MFD Alerts editor)

wamwagner "at" comcast &q= uot;dot" net (William Wagner, WIMS WG Co-Chair)


Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or= the
WIMS WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote).


Notes:

(1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG=A0 Process/3= .0
and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confid= entiality agreement.
The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these docu= ments and
the links are provided below.

(2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of
the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues.

The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Ve= rsion 3.0 is
located at:

=A0 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentialit= y is located at:

=A0 http://www.pwg.org/c= hair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf

Cheers,
- Ira McDonald (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Fo= undation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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boundary=0016e6d7ef50edc05304c040ddfb --0016e6d7ef50edc05304c040ddfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Due to lack of sleep at the PWG/OPS meetings, Mike and I uploaded these Plenary minutes into the slides directory - copied to where they belong: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20120424.htm Cheers, - Ira (PWG Secretary) On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > The minutes from Tuesday's PWG Plenary session during our > Joint PWG / OP Summit meeting have now been posted at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/pwg-plenary-minutes-20120424.htm > > Note - Call-in attendees - if you don't show up please let me know > and I'll update these minutes. > > Cheers, > - Ira (PWG Secretary) > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6d7ef50edc05304c040ddfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Due to lack of sleep at the PWG/OPS meetings, Mike and I uploade= d these
Plenary minutes into the slides directory - copied to where the= y belong:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ge= neral/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20120424.htm

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG Secretary)



On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:= 08 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The minutes from Tuesday's PWG Plenary session during ourJoint PWG / OP Summit meeting have now been posted at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/pwg-plenary-min= utes-20120424.htm

Note - Call-in attendees - if you don't show up please let me know<= br>and I'll update these minutes.

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG Secretar= y)


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF D= esignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-9= 44-0094
Summer=A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



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Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer a= nd Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Prin= ter Working Group Imaging Device Security

Sharp Labs of Americ= a

5750 NW Pacific Rim = Blvd

Camas, WA 98607=

(360) 817-7542<= /o:p>

jmurdock@sharplabs.com

 


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[This is just a remi= nder...]

All,

The PWG face-to-f= ace meeting page for June 2012 is now available. The agenda and v= enue information can be found at:


This page = will be updated with document links as the material becomes available.

Please visit the June 2012 survey page PRIOR TO JUNE 1= , 2012 and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in:


For tho= se not able to attend in person, the usual telephone bridge number will&nbs= p;be provided. The details of the conference call are:

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll nu= mber (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 40= 8 856-9570

Attendee access code: Please request from the = PWG Chair (msweet@apple.com) if you= need it.

_____________________________= _____________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System = Engineer, PWG Chair


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3 Lowell Ave

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Dover, NH 03820

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(603) 343-1820

USA

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ptykodi@tykodi.com

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= Tykodiconsultingservices

 

Co-Chair    &n= bsp;          - IEEE-ISTO PWG = IPP Working Group

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charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, 8 voting members have acknowledged review of IPP JPS3. This achieves 30% of 27 (8.1) voting members quorum. 2 members included comments, which will be addressed by the editors. Note that Mocana has now withdrawn for 2012 (per ISTO). Thanks to all for participating in this PWG Last Call. Cheers, - Ira (PWG Secretary) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0442835c8a67b004c0579389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

8 voting members have acknowledged review of IPP JPS3.
This a= chieves 30% of 27 (8.1) voting members quorum.
2 members included commen= ts, which will be addressed
by the editors.

Note that Mocana has = now withdrawn for 2012 (per ISTO).

Thanks to all for participating in this PWG Last Call.

Cheers,- Ira (PWG Secretary)


Ira McDonald (Musician / S= oftware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretar= y - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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We hope to forward this version to the IETF Applications Area Directors for eventual IETF Last Call (first, probably review by LDAP experts). I *have* assigned OIDs to the few new attributes, because we have a stable set chosen in section 4.1 of the IPP Everywhere spec. I've just posted a third Internet-Draft of LDAP Schema for Printer Services to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02-20120520.txt - plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed characters) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02-20120520.pdf - line numbered PDF of plaintext - use this version for review, please This document has already been accepted and posted to the IETF I-D repository. This document was created by revising the original LDAP Schema for Printer Services [RFC3712]. Cheers, - Ira --------------------------------------- Change History: 20 May 2012 - draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02.txt - Third draft - for IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP Everywhere project - Cover - changed intended category to Standards Track for consistency w/ recent LDAP schema specs and IPP Everywhere recommendations. - Global - replace 'must' w/ 'MUST', 'should' w/ 'SHOULD', and 'may' w/ 'can' or 'MAY' (as appropriate) for Standards Track document. - Global - updated publication and expiration dates in copyright, header, footer, and boilerplate. - Global - replaced [RFC1759] references (obsolete) w/ [RFC 3805], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - replaced lowercase 'printer' with titlecase 'Printer' for readability and consistency with IPP standards usage. - Revised section 1, to correct format of reference to IPP JPS3, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 3.5, section 4.1, and section 4.2 to add references to IPP and IPPS URI scheme specs, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 4.2 to correct reference for 'digest' and add reference for 'certificate' to [RFC5280], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised sections 4.5, 4.6, 4.8, 4.29, 4.30, and 4.36 to add note about use of Network Unicode [RFC5198] and prohibition against all C0 and C1 control characters except HT, CR, and LF, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 4.9 to enumerate all known IPP versions (noting that IPP/1.0 is OBSOLETE) and refer to IANA IPP Registry, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 4.22 to replace legacy examples w/ examples of media size names, media types, and media colors defined in [PWG5101.1], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 4.24 to delete obscure note about delimiter, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised sections 4.25, 4.31, 4.32, and 4.33 to add note about use of 'unknown' (out-of-band value) ONLY when the correspond IPP or Printer MIB attributes are not present (i.e., artifact of LDAP mapping), per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 4.39 to add exhaustive list of feature keywords from [PWG5100.JPS3] and [PWG5100.EVE], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Added section 4.x 'printer-device-service-count' aligned w/ "device-service-count" in [PWG5100.JPS3], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Added section 4.x 'printer-device-uuid' aligned w/ "device-uuid" in [PWG5100.JPS3], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised sections 4.x to add length restrictions to unbounded strings (text, URI, and UUID) w/ maximum 255 octets (consistent w/ RFC 3712), verify attribute lengths (per source IPP attribute), and clarify "list of" (comma-delimited) versus "one of" (simple multi-valued) for all 'printer-xxx-supported' attributes, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 7.2 to assign new OIDs for the LDAP Printer Schema new attributes, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 10.1 to add BCP 14 to [RFC2119] definition, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Revised section 10.1 and section 10.2 to move [RFC2617], [RFC3987], [RFC4122], [RFC5198], [RFC5246], [RFC5280], [RFC5870], [STD63] from informative to normative references, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6ddfed1fa023504c07fa5ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Pat - we'll review this version in detail next month at the = PWG Face-to-Face
during the IPP WG session 1-5pm PDT 6 June 2012.=A0 We= hope to forward
this version to the IETF Applications Area Directors fo= r eventual IETF Last
Call (first, probably review by LDAP experts).


I *have* assigned= OIDs to the few new attributes, because we have a stable
set chosen in = section 4.1 of the IPP Everywhere spec.

=A0
I've just posted = a third Internet-Draft of LDAP Schem= a for Printer Services to:

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02-20120520.txt
=A0- plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed= characters)

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02-20120520.pdf
=A0- line numbered PDF of plaintext - use this version for review, please<= br>
This document has already been accepted and posted to the IETF I-D r= epository.

This document was created by revising the original LDAP Schema for Printer
Services [RFC3712].

Cheers,
- Ira

-----------------= ----------------------
Change History:

=A0=A0 20 May 2012 - = draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-02.txt

=A0=A0 - Third draft - fo= r IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP Everywhere project

=A0=A0 - Cover - changed int= ended category to Standards Track for
=A0=A0 consistency w/ recent LDAP schema specs and IPP Everywhere
=A0=A0= recommendations.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - replace 'must' w/ &#= 39;MUST', 'should' w/ 'SHOULD', and 'may'
= =A0=A0 w/ 'can' or 'MAY' (as appropriate) for Standards Tra= ck document.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - updated publication and expiration dates in copyright= ,
=A0=A0 header, footer, and boilerplate.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - r= eplaced [RFC1759] references (obsolete) w/ [RFC 3805],
=A0=A0 per IEEE-I= STO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - replaced lowercase 'printer' with titlecase &= #39;Printer' for
=A0=A0 readability and consistency with IPP standa= rds usage.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 1, to correct format of refe= rence to IPP JPS3, per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 3.5= , section 4.1, and section 4.2 to add references
=A0=A0 to IPP and IPPS = URI scheme specs, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revi= sed section 4.2 to correct reference for 'digest' and add
=A0=A0 reference for 'certificate' to [RFC5280], per IEEE-ISTO PWG = IPP WG
=A0=A0 review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised sections 4.5, 4.6, 4.8= , 4.29, 4.30, and 4.36 to add note
=A0=A0 about use of Network Unicode [= RFC5198] and prohibition against all C0
=A0=A0 and C1 control characters except HT, CR, and LF, per IEEE-ISTO PWG=A0=A0 IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 4.9 to enumerat= e all known IPP versions (noting
=A0=A0 that IPP/1.0 is OBSOLETE) and re= fer to IANA IPP Registry, per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 4.2= 2 to replace legacy examples w/ examples of
=A0=A0 media size names, med= ia types, and media colors defined in
=A0=A0 [PWG5101.1], per IEEE-ISTO = PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 4.24 to delete obscure note about delimiter, p= er
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised secti= ons 4.25, 4.31, 4.32, and 4.33 to add note about use
=A0=A0 of 'unkn= own' (out-of-band value) ONLY when the correspond IPP or
=A0=A0 Printer MIB attributes are not present (i.e., artifact of LDAP
= =A0=A0 mapping), per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revis= ed section 4.39 to add exhaustive list of feature keywords
=A0=A0 from [= PWG5100.JPS3] and [PWG5100.EVE], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
=A0=A0 review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Added section 4.x 'printer-device-se= rvice-count' aligned w/
=A0=A0 "device-service-count" in [= PWG5100.JPS3], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
=A0=A0 review.=A0

=A0=A0= - Added section 4.x 'printer-device-uuid' aligned w/ "device-= uuid" in
=A0=A0 [PWG5100.JPS3], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 -= Revised sections 4.x to add length restrictions to unbounded
=A0=A0 str= ings (text, URI, and UUID) w/ maximum 255 octets (consistent w/
=A0=A0 R= FC 3712), verify attribute lengths (per source IPP attribute), and
=A0=A0 clarify "list of" (comma-delimited) versus "one of&qu= ot; (simple
=A0=A0 multi-valued) for all 'printer-xxx-supported'= attributes, per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 -= Revised section 7.2 to assign new OIDs for the LDAP Printer Schema
=A0=A0 new attributes, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 -= Revised section 10.1 to add BCP 14 to [RFC2119] definition, per
=A0=A0 = IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Revised section 10.1 and s= ection 10.2 to move [RFC2617], [RFC3987],
=A0=A0 [RFC4122], [RFC5198], [RFC5246], [RFC5280], [RFC5870], [STD63] from<= br>=A0=A0 informative to normative references, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG rev= iew.


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Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
V= oice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Cor= p.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S= 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701


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I = have posted draft slides for the June F2F to:


Included are updated IPP interop results using a soon-to-be-released= version of ipptool that fixes some bugs that caused the incomplete test re= sults reported in April.

Please comment on these s= lides prior to Wednesday, May 30th so I can post the final slides prior to = my travel...

I will be posting updates to JPS3, IP= P Everywhere, and MSN2 later this week.

________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Webster NY, 14580-9701 =20 =20 The map of Xerox's Webster campus is still available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf=20 Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and San Jose Dr. =20 Directions from the Rochester Airport to the Webster campus: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+International+Airpor t&daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&s= spn =3D0.226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-ykL UDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11=20 =20 =20 Here are some hotels with Xerox room rates: =20 Hampton Inn 878 Hard Road Webster, NY 14580 585 671-2050 Xerox rate: $80 Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus =20 Fairfield Inn 915 Hard Road Webster, NY 14580 585 671-1500 Xerox rate: $86 Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus =20 =09 Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield 1000 Linden Park Penfield, NY 14526 585 385-1000 Xerox rate: $104 Courtyard to Xerox Campus =20 Woodcliff Hotel and Spa 199 Woodcliff Dr Fairport, NY 14450 585 248-4810 Xerox rate: $109 Woodcliff to Xerox Campus =20 =09 =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com =20 Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM To: Zehler, Peter Subject: June FTF meeting =20 Hi Pete,=20 Is the address of our meeting still:=20 800 Phillips Rd. Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet. People might have hard time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room.=20 By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? Is it the same as last year?=20 -Nancy=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD39C9.C0CD0646 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The locat= ion of the meeting will be:

 

XQA Conference room

Buil= ding 335

800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701<= o:p>

 

 

The map of Xerox’s Webster campus is still available a= t:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg= /mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf

Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and S= an Jose Dr.

 

Directions from the Rochester Air= port to the Webster campus:

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+I= nternational+Airport&daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&a= mp;sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&sspn=3D0.226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFV= oSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-ykLUDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh= &mra=3Dls&z=3D11

 

 

Here are some hotels with Xerox ro= om rates:

 

Hampton Inn
878 Hard Road<= br>Webster, NY 14580
585 671-2050
Xerox rate: $80
Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus

=

Fairfield Inn
915 Hard Road
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-1500=
Xerox rate: $86
Fairfield I= nn to Xerox Campus

Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield
1000 Linden= Park
Penfield, NY 14526
585 385-1000
Xerox rate: $104
Court= yard to Xerox Campus

Woodcliff Hotel and Spa
199 Woodcliff Dr
Fairport, NY = 14450
585 248-4810
Xerox rate: $109
Woodcliff to Xerox Campus

 =

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Re= search Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com=
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (5= 85) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler<= br>Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9= 701

 

F= rom: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com]
Sent:= Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM
To: Zehler, Peter
Subj= ect: June FTF meeting

&n= bsp;

Hi Pete,

Is the address of our meeting stil= l:

800 P= hillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701

It's still not posted on PW= G meeting web site yet.  People might have hard time to find out how t= o get from hotel to meeting room.
By the way is there a meeting room buil= ding map yet?  Is it the same as last year?

-Nancy <= /o:p>


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Thanks! On May 24, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote: > The location of the meeting will be: >=20=20 > XQA Conference room > Building 335 > 800 Phillips Rd. > Webster NY, 14580-9701 >=20=20 >=20=20 > The map of Xerox=92s Webster campus is still available at: > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf > Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and San Jose Dr. >=20=20 > Directions from the Rochester Airport to the Webster campus: > http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+International+Airpo= rt&daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&= sspn=3D0.226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1= i-ykLUDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11 >=20=20 >=20=20 > Here are some hotels with Xerox room rates: >=20=20 > Hampton Inn > 878 Hard Road > Webster, NY 14580 > 585 671-2050 > Xerox rate: $80 > Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus > Fairfield Inn > 915 Hard Road > Webster, NY 14580 > 585 671-1500 > Xerox rate: $86 > Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus > Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield > 1000 Linden Park > Penfield, NY 14526 > 585 385-1000 > Xerox rate: $104 > Courtyard to Xerox Campus > Woodcliff Hotel and Spa > 199 Woodcliff Dr > Fairport, NY 14450 > 585 248-4810 > Xerox rate: $109 > Woodcliff to Xerox Campus >=20=20 >=20=20 > Peter Zehler >=20 > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 >=20=20 > From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM > To: Zehler, Peter > Subject: June FTF meeting >=20=20 > Hi Pete,=20 >=20 > Is the address of our meeting still:=20 >=20 > 800 Phillips Rd. > Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 >=20 > It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet. People might have har= d time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room.=20 > By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? Is it the same as l= ast year?=20 >=20 > -Nancy >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and=20 > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is=20 > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_LCkymbXCCK/+f4eetEXBfw) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
The location of the meeting will be:<= o:p>
 
XQA Conference room<= /o:p>
= Building 335
800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701
 
 
The map of Xerox=92= s Webster campus is still available at:
Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and = San Jose Dr.
 
Directions from the Rochester Airport to the W= ebster campus:
 
 
Here are some hotels with= Xerox room rates:
 
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Woodcliff Hotel and Spa
199 Woodcliff Dr
Fairport= , NY 14450
585 248-4810
Xerox rate: $109
Hampton Inn
878 Hard Road
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-2050
X= erox rate: $80
Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus=
Fairfield Inn
915 Hard R= oad
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-1500
Xerox rate: $86
Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus
Cou= rtyard Rochester East/Penfield
1000 Linden Park
Penfield, NY 14526585 385-1000
Xerox rate: $104
Courtyard to Xerox Campus
From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM
To: Zehler, Peter
Subject: June FTF meeting<= /o:p>
 
Hi Pete, 

Is the address of our meeting still: 

800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701 

It's still not post= ed on PWG meeting web site yet.  People might have hard time to find o= ut how to get from hotel to meeting room. 
By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? &nb= sp;Is it the same as last year? 

-Nancy

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Thanks! On May 24, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote: > The location of the meeting will be: > > XQA Conference room > Building 335 > 800 Phillips Rd. > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > > The map of Xerox?s Webster campus is still available at: > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf > Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and San Jose Dr. > > Directions from the Rochester Airport to the Webster campus: >=20 http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+International+Airport= &daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&ss= pn=3D0.226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-= ykLUDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11 > > > Here are some hotels with Xerox room rates: > > Hampton Inn > 878 Hard Road > Webster, NY 14580 > 585 671-2050 > Xerox rate: $80 > Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus > Fairfield Inn > 915 Hard Road > Webster, NY 14580 > 585 671-1500 > Xerox rate: $86 > Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus > Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield > 1000 Linden Park > Penfield, NY 14526 > 585 385-1000 > Xerox rate: $104 > Courtyard to Xerox Campus > Woodcliff Hotel and Spa > 199 Woodcliff Dr > Fairport, NY 14450 > 585 248-4810 > Xerox rate: $109 > Woodcliff to Xerox Campus > > > Peter Zehler > > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM > To: Zehler, Peter > Subject: June FTF meeting > > Hi Pete, > > Is the address of our meeting still: > > 800 Phillips Rd. > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet. People might have=20 hard time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room. > By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? Is it the same as= =20 last year? > > -Nancy > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > pwg-announce mailing list > pwg-announce@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --=_alternative 0060CAB885257A08_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,

Thanks!

-Nancy



Michael Sweet <msw= eet@apple.com>

05/24/2012 01:13 PM

To
"Zehler, Peter" <Peter.= Zehler@xerox.com>,
cc
Nancy.Chen@okidata.com, pwg-announce= @pwg.org
Subject
Re: [Pwg-Announce] RE: June FTF meet= ing




Pete/Nancy,
I'm putting this information up on the meeting page now.
Thanks!

On May 24, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:
> The location of the meeting will be:
>
> XQA Conference room
> Building 335
> 800 Phillips Rd.
> Webster NY, 14580-9701
>
>
> The map of Xerox’s Webster campus is still available at:
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/Xerox= WebsterCampus.pdf
> Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and San Jose Dr.
>
> Directions from the Rochester Airport to the Webster campus:
> http://maps.google.com= /maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+International+Airport&daddr=3D800+Phill= ips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&sspn=3D0= .226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-yk= LUDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11
>
>
> Here are some hotels with Xerox room rates:
>
> Hampton Inn
> 878 Hard Road
> Webster, NY 14580
> 585 671-2050
> Xerox rate: $80
> Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus
> Fairfield Inn
> 915 Hard Road
> Webster, NY 14580
> 585 671-1500
> Xerox rate: $86
> Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus
> Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield
> 1000 Linden Park
> Penfield, NY 14526
> 585 385-1000
> Xerox rate: $104
> Courtyard to Xerox Campus
> Woodcliff Hotel and Spa
> 199 Woodcliff Dr
> Fairport, NY 14450
> 585 248-4810
> Xerox rate: $109
> Woodcliff to Xerox Campus
>
>
> Peter Zehler
>
> Xerox Research Center Webster
> Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
> Voice: (585) 265-8755
> FAX: (585) 265-7441
> US Mail: Peter Zehler
> Xerox Corp.
> 800 Phillips Rd.
> M/S 128-25E
> Webster NY, 14580-9701
>
> From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM
> To: Zehler, Peter
> Subject: June FTF meeting
>
> Hi Pete,
>
> Is the address of our meeting still:
>
> 800 Phillips Rd.
> Webster NY, 14580-9701
>
> It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet.  People might have hard time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room.
> By the way is there a meeting room building map yet?  Is it the same as last year?
>
> -Nancy
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean. _______________________________________________<= br> > pwg-announce mailing list
> pwg-announce@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce
____________________________________________________= ____________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


--=20
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
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The location of the meeting will be:<= o:p>
 
XQA Conference room<= /o:p>
= Building 335
800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701
 
 
The map of Xerox=92= s Webster campus is still available at:
Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and = San Jose Dr.
 
Directions from the Rochester Airport to the W= ebster campus:
 
 
Here are some hotels with= Xerox room rates:
 
<= td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none= ; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; bo= rder-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(144, 144, 120); border-b= ottom-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3.75pt; padding-right: 3.75pt; padding-botto= m: 3.75pt; padding-left: 3.75pt; ">
Woodcliff Hotel and Spa
199 Woodcliff Dr
Fairport= , NY 14450
585 248-4810
Xerox rate: $109
Hampton Inn
878 Hard Road
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-2050
X= erox rate: $80
Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus=
Fairfield Inn
915 Hard R= oad
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-1500
Xerox rate: $86
Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus
Cou= rtyard Rochester East/Penfield
1000 Linden Park
Penfield, NY 14526585 385-1000
Xerox rate: $104
Courtyard to Xerox Campus
From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM
To: Zehler, Peter
Subject: June FTF meeting<= /o:p>
 
Hi Pete, 

Is the address of our meeting still: 

800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701 

It's still not post= ed on PWG meeting web site yet.  People might have hard time to find o= ut how to get from hotel to meeting room. 
By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? &nb= sp;Is it the same as last year? 

-Nancy

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruse= s and 
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believed to be clean. ____________________________________________= ___
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I = have posted an updated stable draft of IPP JPS3 to:


Last call comments are summarized here:


For review at the F2F (yes, adding this to the slide= deck...)

________________________= ________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, S= enior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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The remaining information has not changed. Pete =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 From: Zehler, Peter=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:25 PM To: 'Nancy.Chen@okidata.com' Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: RE: June FTF meeting =20 The location of the meeting will be: =20 XQA Conference room Building 335 800 Phillips Rd. Webster NY, 14580-9701 =20 =20 The map of Xerox's Webster campus is still available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf=20 Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of Phillips Rd and San Jose Dr. =20 Directions from the Rochester Airport to the Webster campus: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGreater+Rochester+International+Airpor t&daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster+ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&s= spn =3D0.226875,0.437393&geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-ykL UDSEps_WiTFePhlXIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11=20 =20 =20 Here are some hotels with Xerox room rates: =20 Hampton Inn 878 Hard Road Webster, NY 14580 585 671-2050 Xerox rate: $80 Hampton Inn to Xerox Campus =20 Fairfield Inn 915 Hard Road Webster, NY 14580 585 671-1500 Xerox rate: $86 Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus =20 =09 Courtyard Rochester East/Penfield 1000 Linden Park Penfield, NY 14526 585 385-1000 Xerox rate: $104 Courtyard to Xerox Campus =20 Woodcliff Hotel and Spa 199 Woodcliff Dr Fairport, NY 14450 585 248-4810 Xerox rate: $109 Woodcliff to Xerox Campus =20 =09 =20 =20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM To: Zehler, Peter Subject: June FTF meeting =20 Hi Pete,=20 Is the address of our meeting still:=20 800 Phillips Rd. Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet. People might have hard time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room.=20 By the way is there a meeting room building map yet? Is it the same as last year?=20 -Nancy=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD3E8B.B4201804 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,=

The Conference room has been c= hanged to XCH.  The remaining information has not changed.<= /span>

Pete

 

 

Peter Zehler<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'>

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585= ) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter ZehlerXerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-970= 1

=

 

From: Zehler, Peter
Sent: Thursday, May 24, = 2012 12:25 PM
To: 'Nancy.Chen@okidata.com'
Cc: pwg-anno= unce@pwg.org
Subject: RE: June FTF meeting

<= /div>

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F= 497D'>The location of the meeting will be:

 

XQA Conference room

Building 335

800 Phillips Rd.
Webster = NY, 14580-9701

&n= bsp;

 

The map of Xerox’s Webster campus is st= ill available at:

ftp://ftp= .pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/XeroxWebsterCampus.pdf <= /p>

Building 335 is NNE of the intersection of P= hillips Rd and San Jose Dr.

 

Directions from t= he Rochester Airport to the Webster campus:

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3DGr= eater+Rochester+International+Airport&daddr=3D800+Phillips+road+webster= +ny&hl=3Den&sll=3D43.164925,-77.542475&sspn=3D0.226875,0.437393= &geocode=3DFVoSkgIdf-1e-yGpP5aEZk49tA%3BFayFkwIdta1i-ykLUDSEps_WiTFePhl= XIU3_Nw&t=3Dh&mra=3Dls&z=3D11

 

 

Here are some hot= els with Xerox room rates:

 

Fairfield I= nn
915 Hard Road
Webster, NY 14580
585 671-1500
Xerox rate: $86=
Fairfield Inn to Xerox Campus

 

 

Peter Zehler=

Xerox Research Center Webster
E= mail: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com<= /span>
Voice: (585) 265-8755
F= AX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 1= 4580-9701

 

From: Nancy.Chen@okidata.= com [mailto:Nancy.Ch= en@okidata.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:47 PM
= To: Zehler, Peter
Subject: June FTF meeting=

 

Hi Pete, <= br>
Is= the address of our meeting still:

800 Phillips Rd.
Webster NY, 14580-9701

It's still not posted on PWG meeting web site yet.  People might = have hard time to find out how to get from hotel to meeting room. By the = way is there a meeting room building map yet?  Is it the same as last = year?

-Nancy


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For review at the F2F.

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