From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 04:21:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867A21F84D9 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:21:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRVvCmOdPWYz for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2545121F84CD for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF04791F6; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:21:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr001.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.9]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB68791F5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usa7109ht003.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.29]) by USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Nov 2012 06:21:19 -0500 Received: from USA7109MB004.na.xerox.net ([169.254.3.100]) by USA7109HT003.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.29]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:21:18 -0500 From: "Zehler, Peter" To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" , "ipp@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? Thread-Index: AQHNt6K7A0MHclC15Em6jplcdsiW15fUy+8g Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:21:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [13.41.230.87] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: Subject: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: DAF04791F6.A85F5 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Smith, I don't think there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire fax= job locally to handle retransmissions. An MFD that cannot handle retransm= issions would represent that in its capabilities. The FaxOutJobProcessing = element RetryInfo element is optional. An MFD implementation unable to cac= he an entire fax job would not advertise that capability. Standard MustHon= or (i.e. ipp-attribute-fidelity in IPP) handles this limitation on job subm= ission. A fax job submission with MustHonor on RetryInfo would be rejected= . A job without MustHonor would omit RetryInfo or substitute '0' for the v= alues of the constituent elements. DestinationUris is a bit different. Currently there is no way to determine= before submitting a job if the MFD is capable of delivering a fax job to m= ultiple destinations. In the FaxOutJobProcessingCapabilities element Desti= nationUris we covered the supported URL schemes to enable support for vario= us flavors of fax such as ITU and IETF. Also covered is the support of fie= lds from rfc2806 that were dropped in rfc3966 but are needed to route a fax= (e.g., preDialString, postDialString and T33Subaddress). There is no ele= ment to indicate if multi-destination jobs are supported. The element shou= ld be a peer of DestinationUris and not contained within. Pity you weren't = around a year and a half ago so there would be one. An MFD that handles on= ly single destination jobs is supported during job submission through the s= tandard MustHonor processing. The PWG Semantic Model will allows such extensions. Since an IPP protocol = binding of fax and scan are being discussed I would think that the fax spec= ification would be a good place to define the element and have it included = in the semantic model schema.=20=20 Peter Zehler, Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 -----Original Message----- From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Kennedy= , Smith (Wireless Architect) Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:03 PM To: ipp@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? Greetings, In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assumpti= on that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransmiss= ions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFDs t= hat have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But what = of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems prett= y clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the IPP= FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes and= use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this clas= s of devices is to be supported. Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such exten= sions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if those t= hat were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut could c= omment on this, it would be appreciated. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Hewlett-Packard Co. smith.kennedy@hp.com */ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScan= ner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 04:57:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E820821F84C5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQ4vn3+q6PMu for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0124721F84C4 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F146C791FC; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:57:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from atl4mhob09.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob09.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.47]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0072791FB for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by atl4mhob09.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA1BvGnb020278 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:57:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 17553 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 2012 11:57:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.104?) 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From: Randy Turner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:57:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94076B4F-F4E9-4B6A-9BCC-27D5FE804CAF@amalfisystems.com> References: To: "Zehler, Peter" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: F146C791FC.A8147 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Hi Pete, I think Smith's assertion is correct - from my reading of your first paragr= aph below, if you support retransmissions, the assumption is you can cache = the entire job. Advertising the capability is a separate issue. So the an= swer is "yes", the assumption is that the device can cache the entire job. = If a device can't do this, then the recommendation is not to advertise the= capability. At least that's how I interpreted the first paragraph of your email below= =85 Randy On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:21 AM, "Zehler, Peter" wrote: > Smith, >=20 > I don't think there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire f= ax job locally to handle retransmissions. An MFD that cannot handle retran= smissions would represent that in its capabilities. The FaxOutJobProcessin= g element RetryInfo element is optional. An MFD implementation unable to c= ache an entire fax job would not advertise that capability. Standard MustH= onor (i.e. ipp-attribute-fidelity in IPP) handles this limitation on job su= bmission. A fax job submission with MustHonor on RetryInfo would be reject= ed. A job without MustHonor would omit RetryInfo or substitute '0' for the= values of the constituent elements. >=20 > DestinationUris is a bit different. Currently there is no way to determi= ne before submitting a job if the MFD is capable of delivering a fax job to= multiple destinations. In the FaxOutJobProcessingCapabilities element Des= tinationUris we covered the supported URL schemes to enable support for var= ious flavors of fax such as ITU and IETF. Also covered is the support of f= ields from rfc2806 that were dropped in rfc3966 but are needed to route a f= ax (e.g., preDialString, postDialString and T33Subaddress). There is no e= lement to indicate if multi-destination jobs are supported. The element sh= ould be a peer of DestinationUris and not contained within. Pity you weren'= t around a year and a half ago so there would be one. An MFD that handles = only single destination jobs is supported during job submission through the= standard MustHonor processing. >=20 > The PWG Semantic Model will allows such extensions. Since an IPP protoco= l binding of fax and scan are being discussed I would think that the fax sp= ecification would be a good place to define the element and have it include= d in the semantic model schema.=20=20 >=20 > Peter Zehler, >=20 >=20 > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Kenne= dy, Smith (Wireless Architect) > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:03 PM > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assump= tion that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransmi= ssions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFDs= that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But wha= t of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pre= tty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the I= PP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes a= nd use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this cl= ass of devices is to be supported. >=20 > Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such ext= ensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if those= that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut could= comment on this, it would be appreciated. >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Hewlett-Packard Co. > smith.kennedy@hp.com > */ >=20 >=20 > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailSc= anner, and is believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 05:00:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B876421F84DA for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:00:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vkiM5Ur2zX+a for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B87221F84CF for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46DC79202; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:59:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4584B79202 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:59:31 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay13.apple.com ([17.128.113.29]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0MCT0084K5AFEPQ0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180711d-b7fe16d00000096a-ba-509264141a77 Received: from [17.153.25.126] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.25.126]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id EC.53.02410.51462905; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:59:16 -0400 Message-id: References: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFOyTlcsZVKAwZR2CYtj+16yWBz5Fmvx qmsXswOzx9aTP9g8dm3byeQxb/F0pgDmKC6blNSczLLUIn27BK6M6fsmshZ8E6540LaRsYGx UaCLkYNDQsBE4vR0pS5GTiBTTOLCvfVsXYxcHEICU5kkNl56wQySEBawl2g8cJYVxOYV0JM4 3LkdzGYW0JK48e8lE4jNJqAm8XtSH1icU8BKYuaFmYwgNouAisT7R1dZIOrlJRruXIGytSWW LXzNDDHTRmL33E52EFtIwFJibm8fWI2IgIPE8yWfWCCOk5VYMbWXaQIj/ywkZ8xCcsYsJGMX MDKvYhQsSs1JrDQ01kssKMhJ1UvOz93ECArDhkLZHYz7f/IfYhTgYFTi4dXNmxggxJpYVlyZ e4hRgoNZSYT3cTdQiDclsbIqtSg/vqg0J7X4EKM0B4uSOG/CdKCUQHpiSWp2ampBahFMlomD U6qB8RTHhPfGmerOpqu027/GrQ6SsJibtXmxB2fNhNm/q6amahj9eb6w070hju1fTMWbThv2 1yKTDprUyiUeDDq24VuGlShzeuXDTzoPr9f2flrVnPE/eYLdHqPN8TwGU10/s05xLWm7U828 7fS6mc0qLxLcHl+OOtrP2nryQ92pyW8ZddZ33uZeoMRSnJFoqMVcVJwIAOFzVhA/AgAA X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: B46DC79202.A8CA6 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Smith, Aside from Pete's excellent comments, I'll throw in my $0.02CDN as the editor for the document: - IPP and the Semantic Model are all about extensions, and we have lots of them... :) - I had actually thought that MFDs would be able to handle storing and retransmitting documents, mainly because I figured that fax-in and fax-out go hand-in-hand and most of the MFDs I've used have been able to store incoming documents to deal with "out of paper" issues. But you raise an important point and I will add text explicitly covering that use case/type of printer. On the print side we already support stream-only printers so it should be straight-forward to expose this for FaxOut. - Regarding multiple destinations, I think it makes sense to add a "multiple-destination-uris-supported" Printer attribute so that a printer can advertise whether they support more than 1 destination URI. I will add this to the next draft. On 2012-10-31, at 4:03 PM, "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" wrote: > Greetings, > > In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransmissions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFDs that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But what of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pretty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the IPP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes and use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this class of devices is to be supported. > > Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such extensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if those that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut could comment on this, it would be appreciated. > > Cheers, > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Hewlett-Packard Co. > smith.kennedy@hp.com > */ > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 05:09:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C3121F8726 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:09:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ozv4v0RLoRY1 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85B821F86B2 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03F179201; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:09:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.46]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CDC791EF for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA1C9Ecd001853 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:09:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 30999 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 2012 12:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.104?) 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From: Randy Turner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:09:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <39580828-F5DA-4CFD-B4BE-32A48E968ED0@amalfisystems.com> References: To: Michael Sweet X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: C03F179201.A9490 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Historically, I think the assumption for fax machines is that CCITT error h= andling mechanisms REQUIRED that fax machines be able to cache a single "PA= GE" of information. In my experience, there is no such thing as a fax mach= ine so resource constrained that it cannot cache a single page, so maybe we= should think about this in our discussion of assumed caching requirements.= If you had a 50-page job, you received confirmation on a page-by-page bas= is, so there was no reason to cache an entire job. R. On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, >=20 > Aside from Pete's excellent comments, I'll throw in my $0.02CDN as the ed= itor for the document: >=20 > - IPP and the Semantic Model are all about extensions, and we have lots o= f them... :) >=20 > - I had actually thought that MFDs would be able to handle storing and re= transmitting documents, mainly because I figured that fax-in and fax-out go= hand-in-hand and most of the MFDs I've used have been able to store incomi= ng documents to deal with "out of paper" issues. But you raise an importan= t point and I will add text explicitly covering that use case/type of print= er. On the print side we already support stream-only printers so it should= be straight-forward to expose this for FaxOut. >=20 > - Regarding multiple destinations, I think it makes sense to add a "multi= ple-destination-uris-supported" Printer attribute so that a printer can adv= ertise whether they support more than 1 destination URI. I will add this t= o the next draft. >=20 >=20 > On 2012-10-31, at 4:03 PM, "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" wrote: >> Greetings, >>=20 >> In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assum= ption that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransm= issions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFD= s that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But wh= at of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pr= etty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the = IPP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes = and use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this c= lass of devices is to be supported. >>=20 >> Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such ex= tensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if thos= e that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut coul= d comment on this, it would be appreciated. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Hewlett-Packard Co. >> smith.kennedy@hp.com >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 05:13:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5A121F84E6 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1K1713dzbfJd for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A3421F8510 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83F27920D; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:12:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA04E79201 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:12:35 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0MCT00A205SL0TJ0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7fe96d000000e2b-13-5092673146c5 Received: from [17.153.25.126] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.25.126]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id F0.BE.03627.23762905; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <39580828-F5DA-4CFD-B4BE-32A48E968ED0@amalfisystems.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 08:12:33 -0400 Message-id: <4FF83D21-9E36-48F2-85A8-8DFF33692E4D@apple.com> References: <39580828-F5DA-4CFD-B4BE-32A48E968ED0@amalfisystems.com> To: Randy Turner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFOyTtc4fVKAwa+tAhbH9r1ksTjyLdZi z9o/bBavunYxO7B4LD/5hdlj68kfbB67tu1k8pi3eDpTAEsUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8az96cZ C1rlKh7uWcrSwLhGoouRk0NCwESi++g+NghbTOLCvfVANheHkMBUJolnG+YygSSEBewlGg+c ZQWxeQX0JA53bgezmQW0JG78ewlWwyagJvF7Uh9YnFPAVeL1smMsIDaLgIrE74MfWCDq4yVu rVkIZWtLLFv4mhlipo3E4XdLmCEWL2aUOH14ByNIQkRAR6Lt6TkWiOtkJVZM7WWawMg/C8kd s5DcMQvJ3AWMzKsYBYtScxIrDU30EgsKclL1kvNzNzGCwrOh0GQH48Gf/IcYBTgYlXh4NfMm BgixJpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4X3cDRTiTUmsrEotyo8vKs1JLT7EKM3BoiTOmzIdKCWQnliSmp2a WpBaBJNl4uCUamC0ns8c5J3zi/0L982vD/bLe9ZnuyQ7OE0OWBioHqE2wUpdY0parmZnwyXd XI4Vx0yjCrhudE5pusp8sSv/zURpp4/vEkou/ohdUThtk/PUygo9752/91hcknCO2WO6Ypr3 T9mip3+tgsynqR85dYo3ZuK0HXbPlr4om2HwuC5RwVXV2CRTPkqJpTgj0VCLuag4EQAhwSvR SwIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: D83F27920D.A8892 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Randy, Thanks, I will include this in the updated draft as well. On 2012-11-01, at 8:09 AM, Randy Turner wrote: > > Historically, I think the assumption for fax machines is that CCITT error handling mechanisms REQUIRED that fax machines be able to cache a single "PAGE" of information. In my experience, there is no such thing as a fax machine so resource constrained that it cannot cache a single page, so maybe we should think about this in our discussion of assumed caching requirements. If you had a 50-page job, you received confirmation on a page-by-page basis, so there was no reason to cache an entire job. > > R. > > On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> Smith, >> >> Aside from Pete's excellent comments, I'll throw in my $0.02CDN as the editor for the document: >> >> - IPP and the Semantic Model are all about extensions, and we have lots of them... :) >> >> - I had actually thought that MFDs would be able to handle storing and retransmitting documents, mainly because I figured that fax-in and fax-out go hand-in-hand and most of the MFDs I've used have been able to store incoming documents to deal with "out of paper" issues. But you raise an important point and I will add text explicitly covering that use case/type of printer. On the print side we already support stream-only printers so it should be straight-forward to expose this for FaxOut. >> >> - Regarding multiple destinations, I think it makes sense to add a "multiple-destination-uris-supported" Printer attribute so that a printer can advertise whether they support more than 1 destination URI. I will add this to the next draft. >> >> >> On 2012-10-31, at 4:03 PM, "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransmissions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFDs that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But what of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pretty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the IPP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes and use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this class of devices is to be supported. >>> >>> Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such extensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if those that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut could comment on this, it would be appreciated. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Smith >>> >>> /** >>> Smith Kennedy >>> Hewlett-Packard Co. >>> smith.kennedy@hp.com >>> */ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> > __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 05:13:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0768B21F86B2 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aSPXJtk3wSVH for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD8221F860B for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F385E79213; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:13:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr001.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.9]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECCF79201 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usa7109ht001.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.31]) by USA7109MR001.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Nov 2012 07:12:47 -0500 Received: from USA7109MB004.na.xerox.net ([169.254.3.100]) by USA7109HT001.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.31]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:12:37 -0500 From: "Zehler, Peter" To: Randy Turner Subject: RE: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? Thread-Topic: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? Thread-Index: AQHNt6K7A0MHclC15Em6jplcdsiW15fUy+8ggABoqwD//6zSoA== Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:12:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <94076B4F-F4E9-4B6A-9BCC-27D5FE804CAF@amalfisystems.com> In-Reply-To: <94076B4F-F4E9-4B6A-9BCC-27D5FE804CAF@amalfisystems.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [13.41.230.87] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: F385E79213.A8CDE X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Randy, The point of my first paragraph below is that an MFD is not REQUIRED to sup= port caching the entire job. This is true not only of Fax but also of prin= t. Fax might need to cache the job for retries and print might need to cac= he the job for multiple copies. Of course fax and print could accomplish = their tasks without caching the documents if the documents were submitted b= y reference (i.e. using a document URI).=20 Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 -----Original Message----- From: Randy Turner [mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:57 AM To: Zehler, Peter Cc: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? Hi Pete, I think Smith's assertion is correct - from my reading of your first paragr= aph below, if you support retransmissions, the assumption is you can cache = the entire job. Advertising the capability is a separate issue. So the an= swer is "yes", the assumption is that the device can cache the entire job. = If a device can't do this, then the recommendation is not to advertise the= capability. At least that's how I interpreted the first paragraph of your email below... Randy On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:21 AM, "Zehler, Peter" wrote: > Smith, >=20 > I don't think there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire f= ax job locally to handle retransmissions. An MFD that cannot handle retran= smissions would represent that in its capabilities. The FaxOutJobProcessin= g element RetryInfo element is optional. An MFD implementation unable to c= ache an entire fax job would not advertise that capability. Standard MustH= onor (i.e. ipp-attribute-fidelity in IPP) handles this limitation on job su= bmission. A fax job submission with MustHonor on RetryInfo would be reject= ed. A job without MustHonor would omit RetryInfo or substitute '0' for the= values of the constituent elements. >=20 > DestinationUris is a bit different. Currently there is no way to determi= ne before submitting a job if the MFD is capable of delivering a fax job to= multiple destinations. In the FaxOutJobProcessingCapabilities element Des= tinationUris we covered the supported URL schemes to enable support for var= ious flavors of fax such as ITU and IETF. Also covered is the support of f= ields from rfc2806 that were dropped in rfc3966 but are needed to route a f= ax (e.g., preDialString, postDialString and T33Subaddress). There is no e= lement to indicate if multi-destination jobs are supported. The element sh= ould be a peer of DestinationUris and not contained within. Pity you weren'= t around a year and a half ago so there would be one. An MFD that handles = only single destination jobs is supported during job submission through the= standard MustHonor processing. >=20 > The PWG Semantic Model will allows such extensions. Since an IPP protoco= l binding of fax and scan are being discussed I would think that the fax sp= ecification would be a good place to define the element and have it include= d in the semantic model schema.=20=20 >=20 > Peter Zehler, >=20 >=20 > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:03 PM > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assump= tion that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransmi= ssions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFDs= that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But wha= t of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pre= tty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the I= PP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes a= nd use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this cl= ass of devices is to be supported. >=20 > Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such ext= ensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if those= that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut could= comment on this, it would be appreciated. >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Hewlett-Packard Co. > smith.kennedy@hp.com > */ >=20 >=20 > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailSc= anner, and is believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by=20 > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 05:28:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CD021F89AE for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:28:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cIZteFgTVwCo for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6902521F89FD for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867FE79213; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:28:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.46]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6033F7920D for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA1CSBqT001841 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:28:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 22410 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 2012 12:28:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.104?) 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From: Randy Turner In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:28:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <17700420-58C5-4B46-91D8-CDFF3C939F97@amalfisystems.com> References: <94076B4F-F4E9-4B6A-9BCC-27D5FE804CAF@amalfisystems.com> To: "Zehler, Peter" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 867FE79213.A8FD7 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Should we include (enumerate) some examples of how to accomplish advertised= functionality WITHOUT device-local caching? This would correct any false assumptions about job caching being required t= o accomplish certain advertised functionality. print(fax out) by reference is a good example whereby my device can support= complete job retries without local caching (as you say below) R. On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, "Zehler, Peter" wrote: > Randy, >=20 > The point of my first paragraph below is that an MFD is not REQUIRED to s= upport caching the entire job. This is true not only of Fax but also of pr= int. Fax might need to cache the job for retries and print might need to c= ache the job for multiple copies. Of course fax and print could accomplis= h their tasks without caching the documents if the documents were submitted= by reference (i.e. using a document URI).=20 >=20 > Peter Zehler >=20 > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Turner [mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:57 AM > To: Zehler, Peter > Cc: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); ipp@pwg.org > Subject: Re: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? >=20 >=20 > Hi Pete, >=20 > I think Smith's assertion is correct - from my reading of your first para= graph below, if you support retransmissions, the assumption is you can cach= e the entire job. Advertising the capability is a separate issue. So the = answer is "yes", the assumption is that the device can cache the entire job= . If a device can't do this, then the recommendation is not to advertise t= he capability. >=20 > At least that's how I interpreted the first paragraph of your email below= ... >=20 > Randy >=20 > On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:21 AM, "Zehler, Peter" wrot= e: >=20 >> Smith, >>=20 >> I don't think there is an assumption that the MFD must cache the entire = fax job locally to handle retransmissions. An MFD that cannot handle retra= nsmissions would represent that in its capabilities. The FaxOutJobProcessi= ng element RetryInfo element is optional. An MFD implementation unable to = cache an entire fax job would not advertise that capability. Standard Must= Honor (i.e. ipp-attribute-fidelity in IPP) handles this limitation on job s= ubmission. A fax job submission with MustHonor on RetryInfo would be rejec= ted. A job without MustHonor would omit RetryInfo or substitute '0' for th= e values of the constituent elements. >>=20 >> DestinationUris is a bit different. Currently there is no way to determ= ine before submitting a job if the MFD is capable of delivering a fax job t= o multiple destinations. In the FaxOutJobProcessingCapabilities element De= stinationUris we covered the supported URL schemes to enable support for va= rious flavors of fax such as ITU and IETF. Also covered is the support of = fields from rfc2806 that were dropped in rfc3966 but are needed to route a = fax (e.g., preDialString, postDialString and T33Subaddress). There is no = element to indicate if multi-destination jobs are supported. The element s= hould be a peer of DestinationUris and not contained within. Pity you weren= 't around a year and a half ago so there would be one. An MFD that handles= only single destination jobs is supported during job submission through th= e standard MustHonor processing. >>=20 >> The PWG Semantic Model will allows such extensions. Since an IPP protoc= ol binding of fax and scan are being discussed I would think that the fax s= pecification would be a good place to define the element and have it includ= ed in the semantic model schema.=20=20 >>=20 >> Peter Zehler, >>=20 >>=20 >> Xerox Research Center Webster >> Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com >> Voice: (585) 265-8755 >> FAX: (585) 265-7441 >> US Mail: Peter Zehler >> Xerox Corp. >> 800 Phillips Rd. >> M/S 128-25E >> Webster NY, 14580-9701 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of=20 >> Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:03 PM >> To: ipp@pwg.org >> Subject: [IPP] IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> In reading the IPP FaxOut specification, it seems that there is an assum= ption that the MFD must cache the entire fax job locally to handle retransm= issions and to also support multiple destinations. Obviously for those MFD= s that have enough RAM or secondary storage, this is not a problem. But wh= at of those MFD type devices that may not have such resources? It seems pr= etty clear to me that resource-constrained MFDs were not considered in the = IPP FaxOut specification. It seems clear to me that additional attributes = and use discussion will be needed to the IPP FaxOut specification if this c= lass of devices is to be supported. >>=20 >> Will the semantic model upon which IPP FaxOut is based allow for such ex= tensions? I will begin reading 5108.5 and 5108.1 more closely, but if thos= e that were authors of those specifications or the draft of IPP FaxOut coul= d comment on this, it would be appreciated. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Hewlett-Packard Co. >> smith.kennedy@hp.com >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailS= canner, and is believed to be clean. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by=20 >> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Nov 1 06:32:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE1121F8DB7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:32:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_53=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E2oTG-UndmF7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F7D21F8DB4 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEC179222; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:31:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (crispin.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1377379220 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:31:44 -0400 (EDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from relay14.apple.com ([17.128.113.52]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPS id <0MCT003XW9KDGRO1@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-b7fe96d000000e2b-4b-509279b0ea62 Received: from [17.153.25.126] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.25.126]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id F0.3E.03627.1B972905; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [IPP] RE: IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs"? From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <17700420-58C5-4B46-91D8-CDFF3C939F97@amalfisystems.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:31:28 -0400 Message-id: <9A686A03-B87B-40B8-ABCC-899964CD99A1@apple.com> References: <94076B4F-F4E9-4B6A-9BCC-27D5FE804CAF@amalfisystems.com> <17700420-58C5-4B46-91D8-CDFF3C939F97@amalfisystems.com> To: Randy Turner X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFOyTndT5aQAgzdbhCyO7XvJYnHkW6xF x5OVrBZ71v5hc2DxWH7yC7PH1pM/2DzmLZ7O5LH81Hq2AJYoLpuU1JzMstQifbsEroytC9oY C1pFKxYc+c3YwNgm2MXIySEhYCLxafszRghbTOLCvfVsXYxcHEICU5kkZq35ygqSEBZwljjx ZisTiM0roCdxuHM7WJxZQEvixr+XYHE2ATWJ35P6wOKcAq4Slx63gcVZBFQkbn9dyQRR7y0x 8VknlK0tsWzha2aImTYSuz59YIdYvJFJouXCPXaQhIiAjkTb03MsENfJSqyY2ss0gZF/FpI7 ZiG5YxaSuQsYmVcxChal5iRWGproJRYU5KTqJefnbmIEhWdDockOxoM/+Q8xCnAwKvHwauZN DBBiTSwrrsw9xCjBwawkwvu4GyjEm5JYWZValB9fVJqTWnyIUZqDRUmcN2U6UEogPbEkNTs1 tSC1CCbLxMEp1cDI8r5wrdp8vVs/Vy2+p/7hQ67N7Kqjszamckr+mOWWyRzy7DvfxqR4DofJ hpLSt/TvHD5R4tXH8m+W90zhYq33j3JsD6dv2fak88OSrPwrOR/rJK35X034H2a3mb9qLdPa 4kPGB4XnntZVP/fM/4kgR9lnPk3RSPW0xbWzWeMLNNnMmHfkz1mnxFKckWioxVxUnAgAWkzm vksCAAA= X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 0EEC179222.A7FD6 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Randy, On 2012-11-01, at 8:28 AM, Randy Turner wrote: > > Should we include (enumerate) some examples of how to accomplish advertised functionality WITHOUT device-local caching? I think it is important to address the stream vs. spool use cases, but I *don't* think we need to enumerate the implementation options for each type of printer. As Pete pointed out, IPP already handles such things as copies and duplex where at least some content needs to either be cached by the printer or the job has to be aborted so that the client can resubmit when an exception occurs. I don't see fax retransmission as any different, aside from some new job-state-reasons values to tell the client what happened. > This would correct any false assumptions about job caching being required to accomplish certain advertised functionality. > > print(fax out) by reference is a good example whereby my device can support complete job retries without local caching (as you say below) That isn't really true in the general case, since the printer needs to cache at least some of the remote content in order to render/print/fax it and not all remote stores allow random access to the data making retries potentially resource intensive. I often see "print by reference" being heralded as the fix for all of our woes, but in reality little has changed since we introduced it some 15 years ago - it works for certain specific use cases but is no substitute for the client supplying the print data because a URI generally does not contain all of the information needed to reproduce what the client would supply to the printer (beyond credentials/cookies/etc., the software used to generate the printable content and any client-side processing intent). Having the client be the server for the reference solves some of those issues but places an undue burden on the client implementations and introduces a lot of issues on mobile devices (fax, then walk away and the printer cannot access the document to be faxed) - better to just make sure direct, streamed printing/fax can be supported by both sides and let print/fax-by-reference be a bonus/optimization option that is available. Also, for fax-out we can't assume that the printer can produce a cover sheet or that the client would want it to. More than likely the client will want to supply the cover sheet for the fax, which means direct printing or print-by-reference with the client as the server. __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From geral@explicacoes4you.com Thu Nov 1 08:08:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBEA21F8D01 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:08:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.558 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.558 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.041, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mIiWvxji+Eug for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iberweb18a.ibername.com (iberweb18a.ibername.com [188.93.230.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCB321F8CE7 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bl14-52-114.dsl.telepac.pt ([85.247.52.114]:62417 helo=fos-5mkgugpcpfe) by iberweb18a.ibername.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TTwNu-0003iG-F3; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 15:08:42 +0000 Message-ID: <671081.54296875-sendEmail@fos-5mkgugpcpfe> From: "geral@explicacoes4you.com" Reply-To: "geral@explicacoes4you.com" To: "geral@explicacoes4you.com" Subject: <><> CENTRO DE EXPLICACOES ONLINE -> Todos os niveis de escolaridade (NR/463025) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:08:31 +0000 X-Mailer: sendEmail-1.56 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----MIME delimiter for sendEmail-440551.7578125" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iberweb18a.ibername.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - megatron.ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - explicacoes4you.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: iberweb18a.ibername.com: authenticated_id: geral@explicacoes4you.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. 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X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group Announcement List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0272624455==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 2F1C0791DD.ACD54 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============0272624455== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55243b0d113bb04cdaf95fe --bcaec55243b0d113bb04cdaf95fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Interesting new thread on a complete rewrite of the IETF RFCs that define URI/IRI, initated by Larry Masinter. This would have very wide-ranging impact (from protocols to parsing libraries). The overall reason is to add back the real parsing rules that were lost from the first URL RFCs. Humorously (to me), note the proposal to revert to "URL" (what the rest of the non-techie world uses anyway). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Larry Masinter Date: Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM Subject: Re: obsoleting 3986 -- what would it look like? To: Erik Wilde Cc: "uri@w3.org" , James M Snell uri should remain as restricted syntax as compatible as possible with 3986 (same strings legal) and iri too. along with leiri, for that matter. but they are depricated in that new protocols should expect the broader range of urls if possible. *Sent from mobile Larry* *--* *http://larry.masinter.net* Erik Wilde wrote: hello. On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:27, James M Snell wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Larry Masinter wrote: > Initially as a thought experiment, I've started to sketch out what it > would look like to obsolete 3986 (URI) with a document that combined it > with 3987 (IRI), reverts to the "URL" name, and gave updated parsing advice. > Doing so is pretty ambitious, of course, and likely to lead to all sorts > of controversies, but I thought I'd give it a try. Seems to be a reasonable effort to undertake... you had me at combining 3986 and 3987. I'll happily help any way I can. same here, and i think it makes a lot of sense to consolidate things as much as possible. some refactoring, plus some new parts such as the parsing rules. not sure i'd like to deprecate the URI name, which is what i have been using religiously, but in the end, we should pick the name that works best. * how much of the introductory and explanatory material from 3896 and > 3897 to retain. While it's philosophically and historically interesting, > it's also a fertile ground for philosophical debates over whether > http://larry.masinter.net#the_person could identify, locate, or name me > rather than a paragraph of my home page. So I'm tempted to leave all that > behind. +1 ... I can't see any reason why the updated spec should delve into any of that. yes, i agree to this one. any conventions should be left to define and describe for those who want to use them. * Include URNs? I'm tempted to include at least a pointer to URNbis, but > I'm not sure which one. Not convinced it would be necessary to include but could be wrong. isn't it really yet another scheme? a little different because it's a scheme for schemes, but it really is nothing but a scheme. * I'm having trouble resisting the temptation to put a stake into the > httpRange-14 by removing any basis for support of using http URLs to "mean" > abstractions or people. Right now I'm considering putting that in a "URLs > and Semantic Web" appendix. Hmm.. not sure this really needs to be touched on at all really. Why not simply focus on the mechanics of the syntax, parsing, and error handling and avoid the semantics completely. i think avoiding semantics would be the way to go, and the httpRange-14 debate might be one that's best deferred to those layers where people introduce and then need to solve those problems. * I'll accept sincere offers of co-authorship as long as you're willing > to accept the requirements that to obsolete 3986 we need to address current > use cases that make reference to 3986, 3987, etc. Happy to help where I can. same here. it'll be quite a bit of work, but it would be worth it. cheers, dret. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --bcaec55243b0d113bb04cdaf95fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Interesting new thread on a complete rewrite of the IETF
RFC= s that define URI/IRI, initated by Larry Masinter.

This would have v= ery wide-ranging impact (from protocols
to parsing libraries).=A0 The ov= erall reason is to add back the
real parsing rules that were lost from the first URL RFCs.

Humorousl= y (to me), note the proposal to revert to "URL"
(what the rest= of the non-techie world uses anyway).

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin= *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523
=



---------- Forwarded message ----------<= br>From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: obsoleting 3986 -- what w= ould it look like?
To: Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu>
Cc: "uri= @w3.org" <uri@w3.org>, Jam= es M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com&g= t;


uri should remain as restricted syntax as compatible as possible with = 3986 (same strings legal)=A0 and iri too. along with leiri, for that matter= . but they are depricated in that new protocols should expect the broader r= ange of urls if possible.

Sent from mobile Larry
--


Erik Wilde <dret@= berkeley.edu> wrote:

hello.

On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:27, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Larry Masinter = <masinter@adobe.= com> wrote:
Initially as a thought experiment, I've started to sketch out what it w= ould look like to obsolete 3986 (URI) with a document that combined it with= 3987 (IRI), reverts to the "URL" name, and gave updated parsing = advice.
Doing so is pretty ambitious, of course, and likely to lead to all sorts of= controversies, but I thought I'd give it a try.
Seems to be a reasonable effort to undertake... you had me at combinin= g 3986 and 3987. I'll happily help any way I can.=A0

same here, and i think it makes a lot of sense to consolidate things a= s much as possible. some refactoring, plus some new parts such as the parsi= ng rules. not sure i'd like to deprecate the URI name, which is what i = have been using religiously, but in the end, we should pick the name that works best.

* =A0how much of the introductory and explanatory material from 3896 and 38= 97 to retain. While it's philosophically and historically interesting, = it's also a fertile ground for philosophical debates over whether http://l= arry.masinter.net#the_person could =A0identify, locate, or name me rath= er than a paragraph of my home page. So I'm tempted to leave all that b= ehind.
+1 ... I can't see any reason why the updated spec should delve in= to any of that.

yes, i agree to this one. any conventions should be left to define and= describe for those who want to use them.

* Include URNs? I'm tempted to include at least a pointer to URNbis, bu= t I'm not sure which one.
Not convinced it would be necessary to include but could be wrong.

isn't it really yet another scheme? a little different because it&= #39;s a scheme for schemes, but it really is nothing but a scheme.

* I'm having trouble resisting the temptation to put a stake into the h= ttpRange-14 by removing any basis for support of using http URLs to "m= ean" abstractions or people. Right now I'm considering putting tha= t in a "URLs and Semantic Web" appendix.
Hmm.. not sure this really needs to be touched on at all really. Why n= ot simply focus on the mechanics of the syntax, parsing, and error handling= and avoid the semantics completely.=A0

i think avoiding semantics would be the way to go, and the httpRange-1= 4 debate might be one that's best deferred to those layers where people= introduce and then need to solve those problems.

* I'll accept sincere offers of co-authorship as long as you're wil= ling to accept the requirements that to obsolete 3986 we need to address cu= rrent use cases that make reference to 3986, 3987, etc.
Happy to help where I can.

same here. it'll be quite a bit of work, but it would be worth it.=

cheers,

dret.


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Monday 5 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) ------------------------------ ------------------------ Meeting information ------------------------------ ------------------------- Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) Meeting Number: 624 587 312 Meeting Password: pwg123 ------------------------------------------------------- To start or join the online meeting ------------------------------------------------------- Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0 ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121022.pdf - *date* in header and first line (September 24) is wrong (3) Status of IPP Everywhere after SC approved PWG Last Call - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20120926-rev.pdf - new draft? - schedule for PWG Formal Vote? (4) Status of MSN2 after F2F review - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20120923-rev.pdf - new draft? - schedule for IPP WG last call? (5) IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs" (Smith Kennedy, et al) - streaming inherently can't do document retries w/out saving whole file - changes needed for IPP FaxOut (and PWG SM FaxOut)? (6) Next steps - IPP WG teleconference on Monday 19 November -- Thanksgiving week? - Cloud/IPP slides for F2F on Monday 26 November - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --bcaec55243b0696ead04cdb3e3df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be this Mond= ay!

Monday 5 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Ca= ll-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

----------------= -------------- ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-----------------= --------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG TeleconDate: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:= 00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
----------------= ---------------------------------------
To start or join the online meet= ing
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://a= ppleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D204995427&UID=3D504472682&PW= =3DNNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=3DMiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- M= ike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20121022.pdf
- *date* in header and first line (Septe= mber 24) is wrong

(3) Status of IPP Everywhere after SC approve= d PWG Last Call
- ftp://ftp.pw= g.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20120926-rev.pdf=
- new draft?
- schedule for PWG Formal Vote?

(4) Status of MSN2 after F2F review
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/= wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20120923-rev.pdf
- new draft?
- schedule for IPP WG last call?

(5) IPP FaxOut and "resource constrained MFDs" (Smith Kennedy= , et al)
- streaming inherently can't do d= ocument retries w/out saving whole file
- changes needed for IPP FaxOut = (and PWG SM FaxOut)?

(6) Next steps
- IPP WG teleconference on = Monday 19 November
-- Thanksgiving week?
- Cloud/IPP slides for F2F = on Monday 26 November
- IPP WG ses= sion at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software= Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEE= E-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair= - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434
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New action item: - Mike to post clean version of IPP Everywhere and start PWG Formal Vote __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_xQTPOjulXd8c44EgtdKxMA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All,

I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to:


Our next conference call will be November 26, 2012 at 3pm ET.

New action item:

- Mike to post clean version of IPP Everywhere and start PWG Formal Vote

__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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In case you haven't seen this yet, it looks like there is progress towards forming a new working group to extend mDNS/DNS-SD to support different kinds of networks.  Information is available at:


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I've just posted another Internet-Draft of IPP over HTTP Transport Binding and
'ipps' URI Scheme to:

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/dra= ft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-06-20121110.txt
=A0- plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - = contains explicit formfeed characters)

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/dra= ft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-06-20121110.pdf
=A0- PDF of plaintext w/ line numbers (review *this* one)

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/dra= ft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-06-20121110.htm
=A0- HTML format

This document has already been accepted and posted= to the IETF I-D repository.

This document was created by a complete rewrite of IPP URI Scheme=A0 [RFC3510].

This version has minor editorial changes from our complet= e review during
the IPP WG call on 14 May 2012 and since then - see Cha= nge History below.

Comments?

Cheers,
- Ira

----------------------------------= --

Change History
=A0=A0 10 November 2012 = - draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-06.txt

=A0=A0 Editorial - Global -= Fixed typos and indentation, per IPP WG review.

=A0=A0 Editorial - Global - changed 'generic drivers' to 'v= endor-neutral
=A0=A0=A0=A0 Client software', per IPP WG review.=A0 <= br>
=A0=A0 Editorial - Revised section 8.2 (informative references, to c= orrect
=A0=A0=A0=A0 title of "PWG IPP Everywhere" (i.e., delet= e version number), per
=A0=A0=A0=A0 IPP WG review.

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This WG pro= posal may be in response to the work going on in the IETF HOMENET WG, and t= he overall desire to have simple, decentralized naming work across subnets= =85.

R.

On Nov 9, 2012, at 5:33 = AM, Michael Sweet wrote:

All,

I= n case you haven't seen this yet, it looks like there is progress towards f= orming a new working group to extend mDNS/DNS-SD to support different kinds= of networks.  Information is available at:

<= span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/m= dnsext/

_____________________________= _____________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System = Engineer, PWG Chair


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Thanks for = the link Mike=85.just checked out the link and there's no proposed charter,= but there is a requirements document that paraphrases my earlier email, bu= t they have included a number of non-functional requirements as well (perfo= rmance, scalability, etc.)

Should be interesting=85would= like to see a charter, which may have been included on an email - I will c= heck the IETF-ANNOUNCE archive and publish here if I find one.

=
R.

On Nov 9, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Michael S= weet wrote:

All,

In case you = haven't seen this yet, it looks like there is progress towards forming a ne= w working group to extend mDNS/DNS-SD to support different kinds of network= s.  Information is available at:


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See voting instructions below. This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on IPP Everywhere, which is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippeve10.txt VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start today on Friday 16 November 2012 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 21 December 2012. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote. PWG Privacy Policy: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors. 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WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, IPP Everywhere Editor) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote). Notes: (1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. (2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_/qbShqWj9ELclnHf5c9NrA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Greetings:

This email initiates the Formal Appro= val vote by the PWG membership on IPP
Everywhere, which is locat= ed at:

   = ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ip= peve10-20121116.pdf

The comp= lete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at:

<= span style=3D"font-family: monospace; ">   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippeve10.txt


= VOTING PERIOD:  This Formal Vote will start today on Friday 16 Novembe= r 2012
and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday 21 Decem= ber 2012.

Valid votes are= : Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain.


Representativ= es from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to
exercise= their right to vote.

PWG= Privacy Policy:  Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed<= /span>
by PWG officers or document editors.


HOW TO VOTE:<= /span>

Send an email with *exact= ly* the following subject line format:

 IPP Everywhere Formal Vote-<company name>-<vot= er's last name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

Example:

 IPP Everywhere Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes


Rules:

(1) Any "No" vote MUST state t= he reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain
a description of th= e *technical* changes required to turn the "No" vote into a
"Yes= " vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0.<= /span>

(2) Any "No" vote MUST NO= T contain *editorial* comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" co= mments, per PWG Process/3.0.
<= br style=3D"font-family: monospace; ">(4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any  *technical* comments, per= PWG
Process/3.0.
<= br style=3D"font-family: monospace; ">(5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval.

WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (repl= acing
"dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):

msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Cha= ir, IPP Everywhere Editor)


ptykodi "at" tyk= odi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Please do NOT si= mply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the
IPP WG list (to p= reserve the confidentiality of your vote).


Notes:

(1) This Formal Vote is being conduc= ted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0
and the current PWG P= olicy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement.
Th= e 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and
the links are provided below.

(2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a sign= ed copy of
the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues= .

The PWG Definition of t= he Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is
located at:

 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

The PWG Policy on Intellectua= l Property and Confidentiality is located at:

 http://www= .pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf

______________= ____________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printi= ng System Engineer, PWG Chair


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<= div>This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the PWG Media= Standardized Names 2.0 (MSN2) specification that has been in extended deve= lopment since last year. The latest stable draft can be found here:


Please send all feedback to = the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for this) and it will be collect= ed and processed as quickly as possible. Our intent is to move MSN2 to PWG = Last Call to span the December 2012 F2F.

Thank you= !

_____________________________= _____________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System = Engineer, PWG Chair


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We hope to forward this version to the IETF Applications Area Directors for eventual IETF Last Call (first, probably review by LDAP experts). I *have* assigned OIDs to the few new attributes, because we have a stable set chosen in section 4.1 of the IPP Everywhere spec. I've just posted a fourth Internet-Draft of LDAP Schema for PrinterServices to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03-20121118.txt - plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed characters) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03-20121118.pdf - line numbered PDF of plaintext - use this version for review, please This document has already been accepted and posted to the IETF I-D repository. This document was created by revising the original LDAP Schema for Printer Services [RFC3712]. Cheers, - Ira --------------------------------------- Change History: 18 November 2012 - draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03.txt - Fourth draft - for IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG - Global - updated publication and expiration dates in copyright, header, footer, and boilerplate. - Global - updated contact info for Pat Fleming. - Global - updated various references. - Global - added references to IEEE-ISTO PWG and IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - deleted all references to PWG IPP Everywhere and values defined in that specification, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - deleted 'printer-device-uuid' attribute, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - revised all 'One of' attributes to add implementation note that multiple values are represented as multiple instances, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - revised all 'List of' attributes to add implementation note that length overflow is handled by multiple instances, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - revised many DESC clauses to correct truncation due to no-fill formatting, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4 Definition of Attribute Types to add implementation note recommending use of Network Unicode [RFC5198], recommending against the use of DEL or any C0 or C1 control characters (except HT, CR, and LF), and recommending against HT, CR, and LF in names (e.g., printer-name or printer-aliases), per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4 Definition of Attribute Types to add implementation note contrasting 'List of xxx' and 'One of xxx' and stating that any of these attributes can be represented as multiple instances (e.g., to avoid length overflow), per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Global - revised all comma-delimited examples to include both single- and multi-valued examples, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.2 printer-xri-supported text and examples to show optional *trailing* whitespace after '<' delimiters, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.3 printer-name to break recommendations into separate implementation notes, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.20 printer-number-up-supported to add note explaining that this differs from the corresponding IPP attribute and is mapped from the largest reported value in IPP, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.22 printer-media-supported to separate examples of media sizes, types, and colors, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.24 printer-resolution-supported text and examples to show optional *trailing* whitespace after '>' delimiters, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.34 printer-aliases to add Network Unicode note like printer-name, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.35 printer-device-id to explicitly list the required key/value pairs as in PWG IPP Everywhere, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.37 printer-uuid to add example of a valid UUID per [RFC4122], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.36 printer-device-service-count to add example, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.39 printer-charge-info-uri to add example, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.40 printer-geo-location to add example of a value 'geo:' URI per [RFC5870], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 4.41 printer-ipp-features-supported to delete 'ipp-everywhere' and add 'unknown' (with explanation), per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 7 IANA Considerations to correct truncation of some OIDs, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 7.2 Registration of Attribute Types to delete issue for OID assignments, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 8 Internalization Considerations to add detailed note about Network Unicode [RFC5198] and avoiding use of C0 and C1 control characters, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - revised section 9 Security Considerations to add note about security vulnerabilities cause by use of DEL or any C0 or C1 control characters in names, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. - Editorial - added appendix B Abbreviations, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d04343e8ad752df04ced14694 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Pat - we'll review this version in detail = next month at the PWG Face-to-Face
during the IPP WG session 9am-12pm P= acific 6 December 2012.=A0 We hope
to forward this version to the IETF = Applications Area Directors for eventual
IETF Last Call (first, probably review by LDAP experts).

I *have* assigned OIDs to the few new attributes, because we have = a stable
set chosen in section 4.1 of the IPP Everywhere spec.

=A0
I've just posted a fourth Internet-Draft of LDAP Schema for Printer Services to:

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03-20121118.txt
=A0- plaintext Internet-Draft format (warning - contains explicit formfeed= characters)

=A0ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03-20121118.pdf
=A0- line numbered PDF of plaintext - use this version for review, please<= br>
This document has already been accepted and posted to the IETF I-D r= epository.

This document was created by revising the original LDAP Schema for Printer
Services [RFC3712].

Cheers,
- I= ra

---------------------------------------

Change History:

=A0=A0 18 Novem= ber 2012 - draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-03.txt
=A0=A0 - Fourth dr= aft - for IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG

=A0=A0 - Global - updated publicatio= n and expiration dates in copyright,
=A0=A0 header, footer, and boilerplate.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - update= d contact info for Pat Fleming.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - updated variou= s references.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - added references to IEEE-ISTO PW= G and IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP
=A0=A0 WG, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - de= leted all references to PWG IPP Everywhere and values
=A0=A0 defined in = that specification, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Gl= obal - deleted 'printer-device-uuid' attribute, per IEEE-ISTO PWG =A0=A0 IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - revised all 'One of&= #39; attributes to add implementation note
=A0=A0 that multiple values a= re represented as multiple instances, per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG re= view.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - revised all 'List of' attributes to add implement= ation
=A0=A0 note that length overflow is handled by multiple instances,= per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - re= vised many DESC clauses to correct truncation due to
=A0=A0 no-fill formatting, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0= =A0 - Editorial - revised section 4 Definition of Attribute Types to add =A0=A0 implementation note recommending use of Network Unicode [RFC5198],=
=A0=A0 recommending against the use of DEL or any C0 or C1 control
=A0=A0 characters (except HT, CR, and LF), and recommending against HT, CR,=
=A0=A0 and LF in names (e.g., printer-name or printer-aliases), per
= =A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised= section 4 Definition of Attribute Types to add
=A0=A0 implementation note contrasting 'List of xxx' and 'One o= f xxx' and
=A0=A0 stating that any of these attributes can be repres= ented as multiple
=A0=A0 instances (e.g., to avoid length overflow), per= IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
=A0=A0 review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Global - revised all comma-delimited exa= mples to include both
=A0=A0 single- and multi-valued examples, per IEEE= -ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.= 2 printer-xri-supported text and
=A0=A0 examples to show optional *trailing* whitespace after '<'= delimiters,
=A0=A0 per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 -= Editorial - revised section 4.3 printer-name to break
=A0=A0 recommenda= tions into separate implementation notes, per IEEE-ISTO PWG
=A0=A0 IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.20 = printer-number-up-supported to add
=A0=A0 note explaining that this diff= ers from the corresponding IPP
=A0=A0 attribute and is mapped from the l= argest reported value in IPP, per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised= section 4.22 printer-media-supported to
=A0=A0 separate examples of med= ia sizes, types, and colors, per IEEE-ISTO
=A0=A0 PWG IPP WG review.=A0 =

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.24 printer-resolution-suppor= ted text
=A0=A0 and examples to show optional *trailing* whitespace after '>&= #39;
=A0=A0 delimiters, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0= =A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.34 printer-aliases to add Network
= =A0=A0 Unicode note like printer-name, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0 =

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.35 printer-device-id to explicit= ly
=A0=A0 list the required key/value pairs as in PWG IPP Everywhere, pe= r
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - re= vised section 4.37 printer-uuid to add example of a
=A0=A0 valid UUID per [RFC4122], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0
=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.36 printer-device-service-count to=
=A0=A0 add example, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 = - Editorial - revised section 4.39 printer-charge-info-uri to add
=A0=A0 example, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editor= ial - revised section 4.40 printer-geo-location to add
=A0=A0 example of= a value 'geo:' URI per [RFC5870], per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
=A0= =A0 review.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 4.41 printer-ipp-features-supporte= d to
=A0=A0 delete 'ipp-everywhere' and add 'unknown' (w= ith explanation), per
=A0=A0 IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0

=A0= =A0 - Editorial - revised section 7 IANA Considerations to correct
=A0=A0 truncation of some OIDs, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG review.=A0
=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 7.2 Registration of Attribute Types t= o
=A0=A0 delete issue for OID assignments, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG rev= iew.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 8 Internalization Considerations t= o add
=A0=A0 detailed note about Network Unicode [RFC5198] and avoiding = use of C0
=A0=A0 and C1 control characters, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG rev= iew.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - revised section 9 Security Considerations to add n= ote
=A0=A0 about security vulnerabilities cause by use of DEL or any C0 = or C1
=A0=A0 control characters in names, per IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG revie= w.=A0

=A0=A0 - Editorial - added appendix B Abbreviations, per IEEE-ISTO PWG = IPP
=A0=A0 WG review.=A0


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Reminder that we also have an IPP and Cloud call scheduled for Monday, 3-5 PM EST (nominally). Main function isd to discuss slides for December F2F, but there are several other items open as well. I expect agendas will be posted on Monday. Thanks. Bill Wagner From: ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:23 PM To: ids@pwg.org Subject: [IDS] Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26 There will be a PWG-IDS conference call on Monday at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT Toll Free 1-866 469 3239; Passcode on request There will be a Live Meeting session for this teleconference You can attend the Live Meeting via the following URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sla/join?id=FP2NKB &role=attend&pw=8Crdm%5C%2B%21r Agenda: . Status Update . Review slides for December F2F meeting o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CDC9A8.8E9C9E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hope all have had a happy Thanksgiving (and a pleasant break = from PWG stuff).

 

Reminder that we also have an IPP and Cloud call schedul= ed for Monday, 3-5 PM EST  (nominally). Main function isd to discuss s= lides for December F2F, but there are several other items open as well. I e= xpect agendas will be posted on Monday.

Thanks.

Bill Wagner

 

From: ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids= -bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe
Sent: Friday, = November 23, 2012 5:23 PM
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Subject: [IDS= ] Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26

 

There will be a PWG-IDS conference call on Mon= day at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT

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Agenda:=

·         = Status Update

·         Review slides for Decem= ber F2F meeting

o   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2= 012-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf

o  = ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Present= ation/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf

 

 

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Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer and Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Worki= ng Group Imaging Device Security

= Sharp Labs of America

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I'd like to get one final = turn of the crank before the upcoming face to face. The face to face will = conclude my official participation in standards related work. Pete Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William= A Wagner Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 6:30 PM To: cloud@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud teleconference Monday November 26 Hope all have had a happy Thanksgiving (and a pleasant break from PWG stuff= ). Reminder that we also have an IPP and Cloud call scheduled for Monday, 3-5 = PM EST (nominally). Main function isd to discuss slides for December F2F, = but there are several other items open as well. I expect agendas will be po= sted on Monday. Thanks. Bill Wagner From: ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids-bounces@p= wg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:23 PM To: ids@pwg.org Subject: [IDS] Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26 There will be a PWG-IDS conference call on Monday at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT Toll Free 1-866 469 3239; Passcode on request There will be a Live Meeting session for this teleconference You can attend the Live Meeting via the following URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sla/join?id=3DFP2NKB&role=3Dattend&pw=3D8Crd= m%5C%2B%21r Agenda: * Status Update * Review slides for December F2F meeting o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E302A216USA7109MB004naxer_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,=

I’d also like to= briefly discuss the straw man WSDL file for the Cloud Print Manager to the= Cloud Print Service interface.  I’d like to get one final turn = of the crank before the upcoming face to face.  The face to face will conclude my official participation in standards related work.=

Pete=

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com=
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

 

From: ipp-boun= ces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William A Wagner
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 6:30 PM
To: cloud@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
Subject: [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud teleconference Monday Novembe= r 26

 

Hope all have had a ha= ppy Thanksgiving (and a pleasant break from PWG stuff).

 

Reminder that we also = have an IPP and Cloud call scheduled for Monday, 3-5 PM EST  (nominall= y). Main function isd to discuss slides for December F2F, but there are sev= eral other items open as well. I expect agendas will be posted on Monday.

Thanks.

Bill Wagner=

 

From: ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:23 PM
To: ids@pwg.org
Subject: [IDS] Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26<= /o:p>

 

There will be a PWG= -IDS conference call on Monday at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT

Toll Free 1-866 469= 3239; Passcode on request

 

There will be a Liv= e Meeting session for this teleconference

 

You can attend the = Live Meeting via the following URL:

 

https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sla/join?id=3DFP2NK= B&role=3Dattend&pw=3D8Crdm%5C%2B%21r

 

 

Agenda:<= /span>

·         Status Upda= te

·         Review slid= es for December F2F meeting

o   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Pres= entation/2012-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf

o   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presenta= tion/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf

 

 

--------------------= -------------------

Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer a= nd Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Prin= ter Working Group Imaging Device Security

Sharp Labs of Americ= a

5750 NW Pacific Rim = Blvd

Camas, WA 98607=

(360) 817-7542<= /o:p>

jmurdock@sharplabs.com

 


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I expect that Pete's proposed operations, after appropriate review, will form the basis of the PWG Cloud model Cloud Print Manager to Cloud Print Service interface. (i.e., section 4 of the Cloud Printing Requirements and Model specification.) I suggest that Pete's suggestions be reviewed. See his email of 5 November , subject" Updated PWG SM posted with straw man cloud operations (Cloud Print Manager to Cloud Print Service specific)" Thanks, Bill Wagner From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:55 PM To: William A Wagner; cloud@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org Subject: RE: [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud teleconference Monday November 26 All, I'd also like to briefly discuss the straw man WSDL file for the Cloud Print Manager to the Cloud Print Service interface. I'd like to get one final turn of the crank before the upcoming face to face. The face to face will conclude my official participation in standards related work. Pete Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William A Wagner Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 6:30 PM To: cloud@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud teleconference Monday November 26 Hope all have had a happy Thanksgiving (and a pleasant break from PWG stuff). Reminder that we also have an IPP and Cloud call scheduled for Monday, 3-5 PM EST (nominally). Main function isd to discuss slides for December F2F, but there are several other items open as well. I expect agendas will be posted on Monday. Thanks. Bill Wagner From: ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:23 PM To: ids@pwg.org Subject: [IDS] Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26 There will be a PWG-IDS conference call on Monday at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT Toll Free 1-866 469 3239; Passcode on request There will be a Live Meeting session for this teleconference You can attend the Live Meeting via the following URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sla/join?id=FP2NKB &role=attend&pw=8Crdm%5C%2B%21r Agenda: . Status Update . Review slides for December F2F meeting o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf o ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CDCA69.DFF75E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,<= /p>

 

I agree. = I expect that Pete’s proposed operations, after appropriate review, w= ill form the basis of the PWG Cloud model Cloud Print Manager to Cloud Prin= t Service interface. (i.e., section 4 of the Cloud Printing Requirements an= d Model specification.) I suggest that Pete’s suggestions be reviewed= . See his email of 5 November , subject” Updated PWG SM posted with s= traw man cloud operations (Cloud Print Manager to Cloud Print Service speci= fic)”

Thanks,

Bill Wagner

 

From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com]
Sent: S= aturday, November 24, 2012 4:55 PM
To: William A Wagner; cloud@pw= g.org; ipp@pwg.org
Subject: RE: [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud tel= econference Monday November 26

 

All,

I’d also like to briefly discuss the straw man WSDL file for= the Cloud Print Manager to the Cloud Print Service interface.  I̵= 7;d like to get one final turn of the crank before the upcoming face to fac= e.  The face to face will conclude my official participation in standa= rds related work.

Pete

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center We= bster
Email: Peter.Ze= hler@Xerox.com
Voice: = (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585= ) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter = Zehler
Xerox Corp.<= span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

<= span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> 

From: ipp-bounces@pwg= .org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org= ] On Behalf Of William A Wagner
Sent: Friday, November= 23, 2012 6:30 PM
To: cloud@pwg.= org; ipp@pwg.org
Subject: = [IPP] Reminder: IPP and Cloud teleconference Monday November 26<= /span>

 

Hope all have had a happy Thanksgiv= ing (and a pleasant break from PWG stuff).

 

Reminder that we also have a= n IPP and Cloud call scheduled for Monday, 3-5 PM EST  (nominally). Ma= in function isd to discuss slides for December F2F, but there are several o= ther items open as well. I expect agendas will be posted on Monday.

Thanks.

Bill = Wagner

 

From:<= /b> ids-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ids-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Murdock, Joe
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:23 PM
To: ids@pwg.org
Subject: [IDS] = Reminder: IDS teleconference Monday November 26

=

 

There will be a PWG-IDS conference call on Monda= y at 2PM EDT / 11AM PDT

Toll Free 1-866 469 3239; Passcode on request<= /o:p>

=  

There will be a Live Meeting session for this teleconference <= /span>

 =

You = can attend the Live Meeting via the following URL:

 =

https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sla/join?id=3DFP2= NKB&role=3Dattend&pw=3D8Crdm%5C%2B%21r

 

 

Agenda:

·         Status Update=

·         = Review slides for Decembe= r F2F meeting

o   ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentation/201= 2-12-05_IDS_Plenary-d1.pdf

o   <= /span>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/Presentat= ion/2012-12-06_IDS_F2F-d1.pdf

=  

 

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= Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer and Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Workin= g Group Imaging Device Security

<= span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'>Sharp Labs of America

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>5750 NW Pacific Rim Blv= d

Camas, WA 98607

(360) 817-7542

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Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) ------------------------------ ------------------------ Meeting information ------------------------------ ------------------------- Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) Meeting Number: 624 587 312 Meeting Password: pwg123 ------------------------------------------------------- To start or join the online meeting ------------------------------------------------------- Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0 ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike? (2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf (3) Review Cloud F2F slides - to be posted (4) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations - see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 - http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 (5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf (6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F (7) Next steps - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --bcaec554df70a9298e04cf55641e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday!<= br>
Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-= in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

----------------= -------------- ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-----------------= --------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon
Date: Every= Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacifi= c Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
----------------= ---------------------------------------
To start or join the online meet= ing
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://a= ppleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D204995427&UID=3D504472682&PW= =3DNNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=3DMiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

A= genda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(4) Review strawma= n WSDL for Cloud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November= 2012
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/= PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5


(5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere
- ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-re= v.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2F

(7) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 Dece= mber
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December=

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft= ware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary -= IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-C= hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin= *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523
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BTW - your plaintext resend lost section 1 w/ the explanation of the ranking codes, adding a bit of confusion. It would be a good idea to post a plaintext version in the directory: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper - (informal documents, before a project has been chartered) I didn't schedule discussion of this document for tomorrow's joint IPP/Cloud meeting, because we already probably have too much content (Pete's Cloud Print operations, review of both Cloud and IPP slides for F2F). I suggest that we could spend some time on this during the IPP session at the F2F. My initial high-level response is that we should try to align the recommendations w/ the new reality of IPP Everywhere (e.g., the characterization of Bonjour as local subnet only conflicts w/ the mandatory support for DNS-SD in the IPP Everywhere spec). Generally, I think we need to recommend best practices for *future* IPP printers and clients. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > My apologies - I always forget that this reflector will downsample to > plain text, and I had cut-and-pasted HTML in to my original posting. Bel= ow > is a plain text rendering. > > Smith > > > > On 2012-11-20, at 3:13 PM, "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> > wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I had an action item from two conference calls ago to post to the > reflector on the subject of IPP protocol "best practices", to enumerate > options for how IPP can be used in order to satisfy all or a core set of > use cases. The goal we discussed was to come to consensus and then publi= sh > the consensus so that the best practices can be adopted as widely as > possible, to help encourage a high quality user experience and best > performance. > > > > All of the IPP specifications describe what can be done with IPP, but we > all know that is broad, and with the exception of RFC 3196, nothing has > been done to examine how best to use the toolset available via IPP. As > well all know, just because something *can* be done doesn't mean it > *should* be done. Guidance on how to best use IPP would benefit the IPP > user community as a whole. > > > > I included the descriptions I have been working on below in-line so that > feedback could be provided directly via email rather than by editing a > document. If there are suggestions on how to best review these (perhaps > one per email thread), let me know and I will re-factor / re-post. > > > > Cheers, > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Hewlett-Packard Co. > > smith.kennedy@hp.com > > */ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 2. Use Case Descriptions > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > 2.1. Create a relationship with a particular printer > > ------------ > > You can=E2=80=99t print to a printer if you cannot establish a connection= to > it. Historically, connecting to a printer to establish a > "relationship" with it meant identifying a printer and then creating > a persistent local records and resources for that printer > relationship with your system=E2=80=99s print spooler. This was called a > "print queue", and it involved binding drivers to create the > relationships needed to communicate at the different levels, and then > keeping record of that set of relationships so that it could be > re-used at a later time. The set of printers or other devices the > user=E2=80=99s system might encounter was relatively small and fairly sta= tic. > > More recent re-thinking of this relationship between client and > printer has resulted in more "dynamic" relationship creation, where > universal drivers can interrogate a device hosting a print service > using a standardized protocol solution stack, and using that > dynamically ascertain and update print service attributes. In this > paradigm, a "persistent" print service record is more like a Web > browser bookmark. > > Both paradigms still require a method of identifying the target > devices. That can be done using dynamic service discovery protocols > where the services respond to discovery requests, or explicitly by > name (host name or raw IPv4/IPv6 address). > > 2.1.1. Discover and select a printer via a discovery protocol > > Discovery protocols are used to identify instances of print services > or printers by searching the network for service types or device > types. This helps the user by making it so that they don=E2=80=99t need t= o do > a physical survey of devices' addresses. > > Regardless of the actual discovery protocol used, the APIs driving > the protocols generally can be used in either a synchronous or > asynchronous fashion. Unfortunately, many legacy software systems (as > well as developers) are accustomed to the synchronous model, which is > easily identified by the presence of a "refresh button". The > synchronous model is not as user friendly as the asynchronous model, > but it is somewhat easier to write programs in a synchronous way than > an asynchronous way. > > Options > > * MEH: > > o Perform network discovery with a synchronous API > > # Show progress bar > # Discovery.Start() > # sleep(X) where X > # Discovery.Stop() > o Present the results of the discovery > o "Refresh" button restarts process > > # Why this is bad: > > * list can be stale > * it isn=E2=80=99t "live" > * "Reset" button is unnecessary and is a crutch > o User selects a printer and presses "Continue" or equivalent > * BETTER: > > o Perform network discovery with an asynchronous API > > # Show List UI widget > # Discovery.Start() with a callback > # callback is called when discovery responses (add or > remove) are received > o User selects a printer and presses "Continue" or equivalent > > # Discovery.Stop() > > 2.1.2. Select a printer via user providing a DNS hostname or raw IPv4 > / IPv6 address > > In some cases a discovery protocol is either not adequate or > unnecessary. Examples of when this use case is encountered include > pre-published names or addresses, and also situations where the > target device is not on the local link. (DNS-SD and WS-Discovery are > generally used for link-local discovery, though wide-area variants as > well as LDAP systems may also be used, but are frequently not for > various reasons.) > > For each of these options below, the assumption is that the client > has received an address string, and wishes to connect to the > > Options > > * BAD: > > o Let each printer model make up its own path, and depend on > some other protocol to get the resource path > > # IPP has no defined standard mechanism to enumerate the > Printer objects' resource paths > * MEH: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to a URI that > was manually entered by the user > > # "ipp" URI scheme could be used to encode the hostname and > the resource path > # Having the user enter the URI exposes too many details to > the user, including the detail about the fact that IPP is > actually beiing used. Users need not be aware of which > print protocol is being used. > * GOOD: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to a > well-known Printer resource path > > # "/ipp/print" > * BETTER: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to "/" > o examine the "printer-uri-supported" attribute; use the first > URI in the list > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to first URI > * BEST: > > o IPP Get-Printers operation > > # YET TO BE DEFINED - COMING WITH SYSTEM CONTROL SERVICE > # Is this really going to be better? > > > 2.2. Get printer options to populate a print dialog (activity between > doing "File=E2=86=92Print" and presenting the print dialog UI) > > ------------ > > Once a printer has been identified, it is necessary for the print > system to understand the capabilities that the printer device=E2=80=99s p= rint > service provides. This includes what print job payload formats can be > consumed by the print service, the available options and default > choices, and so forth. It also includes other information about the > device itself, such as its location. > > Options: > > * SAD: > > o Depend on a-priori knowledge about a particular model as a > way of listing options for the model of device identified as > the target > > # Model specific print drivers fall in this bucket > * MEH: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation > > # request includes no printer attributes; only operation > attributes > # reply will contain the job template attributes for all > PDLs > o Client guesses at what attributes may work or not work for a > given PDL, or uses a-priori knowledge > * BETTER: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation > > # any specific attributes? > o Process results; decide on a PDL > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation > > # request includes the document-format attribute with value > specifying the chosen PDL > # reply will contain the job template attributes > appropriately filtered ("colored") for that particular > document-format > > > 2.3. Check constraints between presented options > > ------------ > > Printer features and options are presented typically in a print > dialog. Some of these have states that have relationships with other > options' states, where one cannot be in a particular state if another > one is too. These are known as constraints, and they must be > calculated any time the state of a control changes state. There are > various ways that this can be done. > > Options: > > * BAD: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # Every time a control is changed, the client sends IPP > Validate-Job with attribute values corresponding to > current state of controls > * MEH: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # when "Print" button is pressed, confirms the job creation > / submission will succeed (authentication, etc.) > # client depends on this operation to perform constraints > validation printer-side > * BETTER: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes > > # device implements job-constraits-supported > # device implements job-resolvers-supported > o > o IPP Validate-Job > > # when "Print" button is pressed, confirms the job creation > / submission will succeed (authentication, etc.) > # constraints validation already handled client-side > > > 2.4. Submitting a Print Job > > ------------ > > Once the user has decided on options, the print job is generated and > ultimately made available to the printer in some fashion. There are > several different ways that this may occur. > > 2.4.1. Submitting a print job "by value" > > This is the classical way that a print job is sent from the client to > the print service: a job is created, and the job information and job > payload content are sent by the client to the print service. > > Options: > > * MEH: > > o IPP Print-Job > > # no pre-flighting > # the printer may reject it but only after it has been > transmitted in whole or in part. > # better to check ticket and content types first. > * GOOD: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # pre-flights the job by validating the job attributes and > document type > o IPP Print-Job > > # creates the job and sends the payload in one operation > # however, the Job object=E2=80=99s URI isn=E2=80=99t usually k= nown until > the job transmission is complete > # doesn=E2=80=99t work well with flow-controlled (low-end) prin= ters > * BETTER: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # pre-flights the job by validating the job attributes and > document type > o IPP Create-Job > > # returns immediately with the job URI for monitoring and > ticket processing status > # if there is a problem then Create-Job may fail the same > as Validate-Job would, but may not, which is why we do a > Validate-Job first (so that there isn=E2=80=99t a zombie job > there) > o IPP Send-Document > > # payload transmission is de-coupled from the creation of > the job > # multiple documents can be sent to build up a compound job > # means that the client doesn=E2=80=99t have to be prepared for= an > early HTTP response > # allows the job URI to be learned before job payload is > sent > # MUST check to see if value of > "multiple-document-jobs-supported" is "true", to see if > it is OK to do multiple Send-Document operations to the > same Job object. > > 2.4.2. Submitting a print job "by reference" > > This is a slightly different way that a print job is sent from the > client to the print service: a job is created and made available for > retrieval by the print service, and when the print job the job > information and job payload content are sent by the client to the > print service. > > Options: > > * MEH: > > o IPP Print-URI > > # no pre-flighting > # the printer may reject it but only after it has been > transmitted in whole or in part. > # better to check ticket and content types first. > * GOOD: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # pre-flights the job by validating the job attributes and > document type > o IPP Print-URI > > # creates the job and sends a URL to where the payload can > be retrieved in one operation > # print service retrieves the payload file itself > # however, the Job object=E2=80=99s URI isn=E2=80=99t usually k= nown until > the job transmission is complete > # doesn=E2=80=99t work well with flow-controlled (low-end) prin= ters > * BETTER: > > o IPP Validate-Job > > # pre-flights the job by validating the job attributes and > document type > o IPP Create-Job > > # returns immediately with the job URI for monitoring and > ticket processing status > # if there is a problem then Create-Job will fail the same > as Validate-Job would > o IPP Send-URI > > # payload URI transmission is de-coupled from the creation > of the job > # means that the client doesn=E2=80=99t have to be prepared for= an > early HTTP response > # allows the job URI to be learned before job payload is > sent > > > 2.5. Monitoring print job status > > ------------ > > While the print job is being processed, users may wish to know > whether it is proceeding successfully, or whether there are > conditions that they need to handle that are preventing processing > from proceeding, such as a media jam, open covers, marking agents > depleted, and so forth. > > Options: > > * MEH: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes > > # monitor the value of the printer-state attribute > # polling (lame) > * GOOD: > > o IPP Get-Job-Attributes > > # targets the specific job status > # may be more precise > # (need to see if job attributes will show printer issues > (top cover open, etc.) that block a job as well) > # polling (lame) > * BETTER: > > o IPP Create-Job-Subscriptions > > # asynchronous / long running queries for notifications > that don=E2=80=99t require polling > > > 2.6. Canceling a print job > > ------------ > > It may be that the user wants to terminate a job before it has been > fully processed, for whatever reason. There are things that must be > done to ensure that the state of the Job object has been decisively > cleaned up by the client if the client is responsible for canceling > the job. Clients leaving broken Job objects on the Print service is > bad behavior. > > There is also a dependency between the options below and how the job > was submitted. If Print-Job is used, but the document payload is not > completely transmitted, then is a Job object even created? Is this > true in all cases? Alternately, if Create-Job / Send-Document is > used, and the Cancel-Job is sent during the Send-Document operation > submission, then > > Options: > > * BAD: > > o Client stop sending data and close the connection > > # Problem: The IPP Job Object may have been created and > still exist, and be in an indeterminate state. It should > be explicitly cleaned up by the client for best > performance and correctness. > # Question: Are there any realistic or theoretical > conditions under which a Print-Job operation does NOT > create a Job object? > * MEH: > > o Client stops sending chunks but doesn=E2=80=99t close the connect= ion > because it is expecting an IPP operation reply. > o IPP Cancel-Job operation request for the job via a second > connection, which for some printers could result in a PDL > interpreter hang because the last chunk sent didn=E2=80=99t stop = on a > "statement" boundary > > # But if the client stops with a zero length chunk then the > IPP stack will know that transport is complete > # Need to define a "magic chunk" that operates kind of like > an in-band inline Cancel-Job operation, to tell the PDL > interpreter that no more job payload chunks? > * GOOD: > > o IPP Cancel-Job > o Client stops sending chunks and closes the connection > * BETTER: > > o ??? > > > 2.7. Getting printer supplies status > > ------------ > > Some administrative tasks, like checking consumables levels, are > presented to end users in some cases, such as during print job status > or in print dialogs. This is useful to end users and should be > supported. > > Options: > > * MEH: > > o Don=E2=80=99t use IPP but use some proprietary protocol or > platform-specific extension to IPP > > # The point is to use only IPP extensions based on open > standards (i.e. PWG standard) and this violates that core > principle > * GOOD: > > o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes > > # printer must implement JPS3 "printer-supply" attribute > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --f46d0401689b012a0c04cf55c871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Smith,

Thanks for this good start on IPP best practices.

B= TW - your plaintext resend lost section 1 w/ the explanation
of the rank= ing codes, adding a bit of confusion.=C2=A0 It would be
a good idea to p= ost a plaintext version in the directory:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/= pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper
- (informal documents, before a project has = been chartered)

I didn't schedule discussion of this document fo= r tomorrow's
joint IPP/Cloud meeting, because we already probably have
too much conte= nt (Pete's Cloud Print operations, review of
both Cloud and IPP slid= es for F2F).=C2=A0 I suggest that we could
spend some time on this durin= g the IPP session at the F2F.

My initial high-level response is that we should try to align
the re= commendations w/ the new reality of IPP Everywhere
(e.g., the characteri= zation of Bonjour as local subnet only
conflicts w/ the mandatory suppor= t for DNS-SD in the IPP
Everywhere spec).=C2=A0

Generally, I think we need to recommend bes= t practices for
*future* IPP printers and clients.

Cheers,
- = Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Ch= air - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP= WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded= Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 = 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI = 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523<= br>



On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Kennedy= , Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote= :
My apologies - I always forget that this ref= lector will downsample to plain text, and I had cut-and-pasted HTML in to m= y original posting. =C2=A0Below is a plain text rendering.

Smith



On 2012-11-20, at 3:13 PM, "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" = <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
=C2=A0wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I had an action item from two conference calls ago to post to the refl= ector on the subject of IPP protocol "best practices", to enumera= te options for how IPP can be used in order to satisfy all or a core set of= use cases. =C2=A0The goal we discussed was to come to consensus and then p= ublish the consensus so that the best practices can be adopted as widely as= possible, to help encourage a high quality user experience and best perfor= mance.
>
> All of the IPP specifications describe what can be done with IPP, but = we all know that is broad, and with the exception of RFC 3196, nothing has = been done to examine how best to use the toolset available via IPP. =C2=A0A= s well all know, just because something *can* be done doesn't mean it *= should* be done. =C2=A0Guidance on how to best use IPP would benefit the IP= P user community as a whole.
>
> I included the descriptions I have been working on below in-line so th= at feedback could be provided directly via email rather than by editing a d= ocument. =C2=A0If there are suggestions on how to best review these (perhap= s one per email thread), let me know and I will re-factor / re-post.
>
> Cheers,
> Smith
>
> /**
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Smith Kennedy
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hewlett-Packard Co.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0smith.kennedy@hp.= com<mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.= com>
> */
>

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2. Use Case Descriptions

---------------------------------------------------------------------


2.1. Create a relationship with a particular printer

------------

You can=E2=80=99t print to a printer if you cannot establish a connection t= o
it. Historically, connecting to a printer to establish a
"relationship" with it meant identifying a printer and then creat= ing
a persistent local records and resources for that printer
relationship with your system=E2=80=99s print spooler. This was called a
"print queue", and it involved binding drivers to create the
relationships needed to communicate at the different levels, and then
keeping record of that set of relationships so that it could be
re-used at a later time. The set of printers or other devices the
user=E2=80=99s system might encounter was relatively small and fairly stati= c.

More recent re-thinking of this relationship between client and
printer has resulted in more "dynamic" relationship creation, whe= re
universal drivers can interrogate a device hosting a print service
using a standardized protocol solution stack, and using that
dynamically ascertain and update print service attributes. In this
paradigm, a "persistent" print service record is more like a Web<= br> browser bookmark.

Both paradigms still require a method of identifying the target
devices. That can be done using dynamic service discovery protocols
where the services respond to discovery requests, or explicitly by
name (host name or raw IPv4/IPv6 address).

2.1.1. Discover and select a printer via a discovery protocol

Discovery protocols are used to identify instances of print services
or printers by searching the network for service types or device
types. This helps the user by making it so that they don=E2=80=99t need to = do
a physical survey of devices' addresses.

Regardless of the actual discovery protocol used, the APIs driving
the protocols generally can be used in either a synchronous or
asynchronous fashion. Unfortunately, many legacy software systems (as
well as developers) are accustomed to the synchronous model, which is
easily identified by the presence of a "refresh button". The
synchronous model is not as user friendly as the asynchronous model,
but it is somewhat easier to write programs in a synchronous way than
an asynchronous way.

Options

=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Perform network discovery with a synchro= nous API

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Show progress bar
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Discovery.Start()
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # sleep(X) where X
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Discovery.Stop()
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Present the results of the discovery
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o "Refresh" button restarts process

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Why this is bad:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * list can be stale
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * it isn=E2=80=99t "l= ive"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * "Reset" button= is unnecessary and is a crutch
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o User selects a printer and presses "Conti= nue" or equivalent
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Perform network discovery with an asynchronous API
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Show List UI widget
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Discovery.Start() with a callback
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # callback is called when discovery resp= onses (add or
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 remove) are received
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o User selects a printer and presses "Continue&qu= ot; or equivalent

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Discovery.Stop()

2.1.2. Select a printer via user providing a DNS hostname or raw IPv4
/ IPv6 address

In some cases a discovery protocol is either not adequate or
unnecessary. Examples of when this use case is encountered include
pre-published names or addresses, and also situations where the
target device is not on the local link. (DNS-SD and WS-Discovery are
generally used for link-local discovery, though wide-area variants as
well as LDAP systems may also be used, but are frequently not for
various reasons.)

For each of these options below, the assumption is that the client
has received an address string, and wishes to connect to the

Options

=C2=A0 * BAD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Let each printer model make up its own path, a= nd depend on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 some other protocol to get th= e resource path

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # IPP has no defined standard mech= anism to enumerate the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Printer objects= ' resource paths
=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri se= t to a URI that
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 was manually entered by the u= ser

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # "ipp" URI scheme could= be used to encode the hostname and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the resource path
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Having the user enter the URI exposes = too many details to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the user, inclu= ding the detail about the fact that IPP is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 actually beiing used. Users need = not be aware of which
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 print protocol is being used.
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri se= t to a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 well-known Printer resource path

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # "/ipp/print"
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to &= quot;/"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o examine the "printer-uri-supported" attrib= ute; use the first
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 URI in the list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes with printer-uri set to f= irst URI
=C2=A0 * BEST:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printers operation

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # YET TO BE DEFINED - COMING WITH SYSTEM= CONTROL SERVICE
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Is this really going to be better?


2.2. Get printer options to populate a print dialog (activity between
doing "File=E2=86=92Print" and presenting the print dialog UI)

------------

Once a printer has been identified, it is necessary for the print
system to understand the capabilities that the printer device=E2=80=99s pri= nt
service provides. This includes what print job payload formats can be
consumed by the print service, the available options and default
choices, and so forth. It also includes other information about the
device itself, such as its location.

Options:

=C2=A0 * SAD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Depend on a-priori knowledge about a particula= r model as a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 way of listing options for th= e model of device identified as
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the target

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Model specific print drivers fal= l in this bucket
=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # request includes no printer attributes= ; only operation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 attributes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # reply will contain the job template at= tributes for all
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PDLs
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Client guesses at what attributes may work or not wo= rk for a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 given PDL, or uses a-priori k= nowledge
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # any specific attributes?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Process results; decide on a PDL
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes Operation

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # request includes the document-format a= ttribute with value
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 specifying the chosen PDL
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # reply will contain the job template at= tributes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 appropriately f= iltered ("colored") for that particular
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 document-format


2.3. Check constraints between presented options

------------

Printer features and options are presented typically in a print
dialog. Some of these have states that have relationships with other
options' states, where one cannot be in a particular state if another one is too. These are known as constraints, and they must be
calculated any time the state of a control changes state. There are
various ways that this can be done.

Options:

=C2=A0 * BAD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Every time a control is changed, the c= lient sends IPP
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Validate-Job wi= th attribute values corresponding to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 current state of controls
=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # when "Print" button is press= ed, confirms the job creation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / submission wi= ll succeed (authentication, etc.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # client depends on this operation= to perform constraints
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 validation printer-side
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # device implements job-constraits-suppo= rted
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # device implements job-resolvers-suppor= ted
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o <Local processing of constraints>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # when "Print" button is press= ed, confirms the job creation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / submission wi= ll succeed (authentication, etc.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # constraints validation already h= andled client-side


2.4. Submitting a Print Job

------------

Once the user has decided on options, the print job is generated and
ultimately made available to the printer in some fashion. There are
several different ways that this may occur.

2.4.1. Submitting a print job "by value"

This is the classical way that a print job is sent from the client to
the print service: a job is created, and the job information and job
payload content are sent by the client to the print service.

Options:

=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Print-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # no pre-flighting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # the printer may reject it but only aft= er it has been
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 transmitted in = whole or in part.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # better to check ticket and conte= nt types first.
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # pre-flights the job by validating the = job attributes and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 document type
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Print-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # creates the job and sends the payload = in one operation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # however, the Job object=E2=80=99s URI = isn=E2=80=99t usually known until
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the job transmi= ssion is complete
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # doesn=E2=80=99t work well with f= low-controlled (low-end) printers
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # pre-flights the job by validating the = job attributes and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 document type
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Create-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # returns immediately with the job URI f= or monitoring and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ticket processing status
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # if there is a problem then Create-Job = may fail the same
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 as Validate-Job= would, but may not, which is why we do a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Validate-Job first (so that there= isn=E2=80=99t a zombie job
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 there)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Send-Document

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # payload transmission is de-coupled fro= m the creation of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the job
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # multiple documents can be sent to buil= d up a compound job
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # means that the client doesn=E2=80=99t = have to be prepared for an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 early HTTP response
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # allows the job URI to be learned befor= e job payload is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 sent
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # MUST check to see if value of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "multiple-= document-jobs-supported" is "true", to see if
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 it is OK to do multiple Send-Docu= ment operations to the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 same Job object.

2.4.2. Submitting a print job "by reference"

This is a slightly different way that a print job is sent from the
client to the print service: a job is created and made available for
retrieval by the print service, and when the print job the job
information and job payload content are sent by the client to the
print service.

Options:

=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Print-URI

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # no pre-flighting
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # the printer may reject it but only aft= er it has been
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 transmitted in = whole or in part.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # better to check ticket and conte= nt types first.
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # pre-flights the job by validating the = job attributes and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 document type
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Print-URI

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # creates the job and sends a URL to whe= re the payload can
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be retrieved in= one operation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # print service retrieves the payl= oad file itself
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # however, the Job object=E2=80=99s URI = isn=E2=80=99t usually known until
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the job transmi= ssion is complete
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # doesn=E2=80=99t work well with f= low-controlled (low-end) printers
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Validate-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # pre-flights the job by validating the = job attributes and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 document type
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Create-Job

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # returns immediately with the job URI f= or monitoring and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ticket processing status
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # if there is a problem then Create-Job = will fail the same
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 as Validate-Job would
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Send-URI

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # payload URI transmission is de-coupled= from the creation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 of the job
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # means that the client doesn=E2=80=99t = have to be prepared for an
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 early HTTP response
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # allows the job URI to be learned befor= e job payload is
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 sent


2.5. Monitoring print job status

------------

While the print job is being processed, users may wish to know
whether it is proceeding successfully, or whether there are
conditions that they need to handle that are preventing processing
from proceeding, such as a media jam, open covers, marking agents
depleted, and so forth.

Options:

=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # monitor the value of the printer-state= attribute
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # polling (lame)
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Job-Attributes

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # targets the specific job status
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # may be more precise
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # (need to see if job attributes will sh= ow printer issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (top cover open= , etc.) that block a job as well)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # polling (lame)
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Create-Job-Subscriptions

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # asynchronous / long running queries fo= r notifications
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 that don=E2=80= =99t require polling


2.6. Canceling a print job

------------

It may be that the user wants to terminate a job before it has been
fully processed, for whatever reason. There are things that must be
done to ensure that the state of the Job object has been decisively
cleaned up by the client if the client is responsible for canceling
the job. Clients leaving broken Job objects on the Print service is
bad behavior.

There is also a dependency between the options below and how the job
was submitted. If Print-Job is used, but the document payload is not
completely transmitted, then is a Job object even created? Is this
true in all cases? Alternately, if Create-Job / Send-Document is
used, and the Cancel-Job is sent during the Send-Document operation
submission, then

Options:

=C2=A0 * BAD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Client stop sending data and close the connect= ion

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Problem: The IPP Job Object may have b= een created and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 still exist, an= d be in an indeterminate state. It should
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 be explicitly cleaned up by the c= lient for best
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 performance and correctness.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Question: Are there any realisti= c or theoretical
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 conditions unde= r which a Print-Job operation does NOT
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 create a Job object?
=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Client stops sending chunks but doesn=E2=80=99= t close the connection
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 because it is expecting an IP= P operation reply.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Cancel-Job operation request for the job v= ia a second
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 connection, which for some pr= inters could result in a PDL
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 interpreter hang because the last chunk sent di= dn=E2=80=99t stop on a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "statement" boundary

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # But if the client stops with a z= ero length chunk then the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IPP stack will = know that transport is complete
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # Need to define a "magic chu= nk" that operates kind of like
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 an in-band inline Cancel-Job oper= ation, to tell the PDL
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 interpreter tha= t no more job payload chunks?
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Cancel-Job
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Client stops sending chunks and closes the connectio= n
=C2=A0 * BETTER:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o ???


2.7. Getting printer supplies status

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Some administrative tasks, like checking consumables levels, are
presented to end users in some cases, such as during print job status
or in print dialogs. This is useful to end users and should be
supported.

Options:

=C2=A0 * MEH:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o Don=E2=80=99t use IPP but use some proprietary= protocol or
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 platform-specific extension to IPP

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # The point is to use only IPP extension= s based on open
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 standards (i.e.= PWG standard) and this violates that core
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 principle
=C2=A0 * GOOD:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o IPP Get-Printer-Attributes

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 # printer must implement JPS3 "prin= ter-supply" attribute



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- see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 > - http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 > > > (5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf > > (6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf > - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F > > (7) Next steps > - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December > - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > 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On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday!

Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

------------------------------ ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-------------------------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon
Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
-------------------------------------------------------
To start or join the online meeting
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(4) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November 2012
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5


(5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2F

(7) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523


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ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf >> >> (3) Review Cloud F2F slides >> - to be posted >> >> (4) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations >> - see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 >> - http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 >> >> >> (5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere >> - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf >> >> (6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) >> - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf >> - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F >> >> (7) Next steps >> - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December >> - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - 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On 2012-11-= 25, at 9:04 PM, Michael Sweet <mswee= t@apple.com> wrote:

Also IPP F2F slides..= . :)

On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:<= /div>
Hi,<= br>
Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday!
<= br>Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in t= oll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

----------------= -------------- ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-----------------= --------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon
Date: Every= Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacifi= c Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
----------------= ---------------------------------------
To start or join the online meet= ing
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://a= ppleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D204995427&UID=3D504472682&PW= =3DNNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=3DMiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

A= genda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(4) Review strawma= n WSDL for Cloud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November 201= 2
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgS= mRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5


(5) Status of PWG Formal V= ote on IPP Everywhere
- ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-re= v.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2F

(7) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 Dece= mber
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December=

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft= ware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary -= IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-C= hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094=
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434=
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523
=


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Should we do them after the IPP document status topics? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Also IPP F2F slides... :) > > On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi, > > Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday! > > Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern > > Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) > Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) > > Attendee Access Code: *******# > Attendee ID Code: # (empty) > > ------------------------------ ------------------------ > Meeting information > ------------------------------ > ------------------------- > Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon > Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date > Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) > Meeting Number: 624 587 312 > Meeting Password: pwg123 > ------------------------------------------------------- > To start or join the online meeting > ------------------------------------------------------- > Go to > https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0 > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Agenda: > > (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker > - Mike? > > (2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf > > (3) Review Cloud F2F slides > - to be posted > > (4) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations > - see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 > - > http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 > > > (5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf > > (6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) > - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf > - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F > > (7) Next steps > - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December > - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --0016e6d7e744f90fe304cf667b36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike,

Oops - of course I meant to put in the IPP slides review.
Should we do them after the IPP document status topics?

Cheers= ,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect= )
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF D= esignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-944-0094
Summer=A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2= 434
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523



On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Also IPP F2F slides... :)

=
On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gm= ail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday!

Mon= day 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-fr= ee number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

----------------= -------------- ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-----------------= --------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon
Date: Every= Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacifi= c Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
----------------= ---------------------------------------
To start or join the online meet= ing
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://a= ppleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D204995427&UID=3D504472682&PW= =3DNNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=3DMiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

A= genda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(4) Review strawma= n WSDL for Cloud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November= 2012
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/= PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5


(5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere<= br> - ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-re= v.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2F

(7) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 Dece= mber
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December=

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft= ware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary -= IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-C= hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523
=


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(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf (3) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf (4) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F (5) Review IPP F2F slides - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-december-12d1.pdf (6) Review Cloud F2F slides - to be posted (7) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations - see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 - http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 (8) Next steps - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December On 2012-11-26, at 9:09 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Oops - of course I meant to put in the IPP slides review. > > Should we do them after the IPP document status topics? > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 > > > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Also IPP F2F slides... :) > > On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday! >> >> Monday 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern >> >> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 >> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) >> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) >> >> Attendee Access Code: *******# >> Attendee ID Code: # (empty) >> >> ------------------------------ ------------------------ >> Meeting information >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------- >> Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon >> Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date >> Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) >> Meeting Number: 624 587 312 >> Meeting Password: pwg123 >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> To start or join the online meeting >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Go to https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0 >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Agenda: >> >> (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker >> - Mike? >> >> (2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting >> - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf >> >> (3) Review Cloud F2F slides >> - to be posted >> >> (4) Review strawman WSDL for Cloud Print Operations >> - see Pete's email from 5 November 2012 >> - http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5 >> >> >> (5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere >> - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf >> >> (6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012) >> - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf >> - start PWG Last Call to span December F2F >> >> (7) Next steps >> - SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 December >> - IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523 >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --Boundary_(ID_03Jq5xa2mQ/ImF2hroRMVw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ira,

Yeah, status then slides then WSDL, e.g.:

Agenda:=

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve&nb= sp;IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org= /pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Stat= us of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere
- ftp://ftp.pwg.o= rg/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(4) Status of WG Last Cal= l on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= pwgmsn20-20121116-rev.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2= F

(5) Review IPP F2F slides

(6) Review= Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(7) Review strawman WSDL for Clo= ud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November 2012
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgSmRev1-182_ServiceOperations= .html#LinkFF5

(8) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2= F on Wednesday 5 December
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thurs= day 6 December



On= 2012-11-26, at 9:09 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote= :
Hi Mike,

Oops - of course I meant t= o put in the IPP slides review.

Should we do them after the IPP docu= ment status topics?

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDona= ld (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF D= esignated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  = 48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434
Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523<= br>



On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Also IPP F2F slides... :)

=
On 2012-11-25, at 12:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gm= ail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Our next IPP/Cloud joint call will be this Monday!

Mon= day 26 November 12-2pm US Pacific / 3-5pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-fr= ee number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

----------------= -------------- ------------------------
Meeting information
------------------------------
-----------------= --------
Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon
Date: Every= Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date
Time: 12:00 pm, Pacifi= c Daylight Time (San Francisco)
Meeting Number: 624 587 312
Meeting Password: pwg123
----------------= ---------------------------------------
To start or join the online meet= ing
-------------------------------------------------------
Go to https://a= ppleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=3D204995427&UID=3D504472682&PW= =3DNNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=3DMiM0
-------------------------------------------------------

A= genda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from last meeting
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20121105.pdf

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides
- to be posted

(4) Review strawma= n WSDL for Cloud Print Operations
- see Pete's email from 5 November 201= 2
- http://www.pwg.org/mfd/navigate/PwgS= mRev1-182_ServiceOperations.html#LinkFF5


(5) Status of PWG Formal Vote on IPP Everywhere<= br> - ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20121116.pdf

(6) Status of WG Last Call on MSN2 (ends 26 Nov 2012)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116-re= v.pdf
- start PWG Last Call to span December F2F

(7) Next steps
- SM/Cloud WG sessions at PWG F2F on Wednesday 5 Dece= mber
- IPP WG session at PWG F2F on Thursday 6 December=

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft= ware Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary -= IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-C= hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094<= br>Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434 Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523
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The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various revision= s of this document and an IDS WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote= but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the HCD-Assessment-Attributes specific= ation and has [no] comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): "ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS Chair and current HCD-A= ssessment-Attributes Editor) alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG Secretary) Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --_000_E301B2F12DBCCF4394DEA69FD0E703702777E8F2wabexchp1sharpa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

[This PWG Last Call starts today Monday November 26, 2012 and ends Friday J= anuary 18, 2013 at 10pm US PST.]

This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the HCD-Assessment= -Attributes specification, located at:

       &n= bsp;        ftp://ftp.pwg.org/p= ub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-idsattributes10-20121113.pdf

A supporting binding document (HCD-NAP) has been prototyped and is in PWG l= ast call. The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various revision= s of this document and an IDS WG last call.

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal= Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.


HOW TO RESPOND

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the HCD-Assessment-Attributes sp= ecification and has [no] comments


WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE

Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):

“ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - yo= u must be subscribed!)
jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS Cha= ir and current HCD-Assessment-Attributes Editor)
alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG S= ecretary)

Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded.

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.

Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at:

       &n= bsp;        http://www.pwg.org/chair/= membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

 

--------------------= -------------------

Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer a= nd Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Prin= ter Working Group Imaging Device Security

Sharp Labs of Americ= a

5750 NW Pacific Rim = Blvd

Camas, WA 98607=

(360) 817-7542<= /o:p>

jmurdock@sharplabs.com

 


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The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various= revisions of this document and an IDS WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote= but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the HCD-NAP specification and has [no]= comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): "ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS Chair and current HCD-N= AP Binding Editor) alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG Secretary) Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --_000_E301B2F12DBCCF4394DEA69FD0E703702777E90Awabexchp1sharpa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

[This PWG Last Call starts today Monday November 26, 2012 and ends Friday J= anuary 18, 2013 at 10pm US PST.]

This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the HCD-NAP Bindin= g specification, located at:

       &n= bsp;        ftp://ftp.pwg.org/p= ub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-ids-napsoh10-20121112.pdf

All required attributes and values defined in this document have been proto= typed by a vendor. The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various= revisions of this document and an IDS WG last call.

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal= Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.


HOW TO RESPOND

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the HCD-NAP specification and ha= s [no] comments


WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE

Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):

“ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - yo= u must be subscribed!)
jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS Cha= ir and current HCD-NAP Binding Editor)
alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG S= ecretary)

Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded.

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.

Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at:

       &n= bsp;        http://www.pwg.org/chair/= membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

 

 

--------------------= -------------------

Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer a= nd Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Prin= ter Working Group Imaging Device Security

Sharp Labs of Americ= a

5750 NW Pacific Rim = Blvd

Camas, WA 98607=

(360) 817-7542<= /o:p>

jmurdock@sharplabs.com

 


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The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various revis= ions of this document and an IDS WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote= but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the PWG-Log specification and has [no]= comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): "ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS WG Chair) alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG Secretary) msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Michael Sweet, PWG-Log Editor) Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf --------------------------------------- Joe Murdock Principal Engineer and Researcher Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group Imaging Device Security Sharp Labs of America 5750 NW Pacific Rim Blvd Camas, WA 98607 (360) 817-7542 jmurdock@sharplabs.com --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --_000_E301B2F12DBCCF4394DEA69FD0E703702777E918wabexchp1sharpa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

[This PWG Last Call starts today Monday November 26, 2012 and ends Friday J= anuary 18, 2013 at 10pm US PST.]

This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the PWG Log specif= ication, located at:

       &n= bsp;        ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ids/wd/wd-ids-log10-20121112.pdf<= /u>

All required entries and values defined in this document have been prototyp= ed by Apple. The IDS WG has completed extensive review of the various revis= ions of this document and an IDS WG last call.

The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must= acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any documen= t can progress to PWG Formal Vote.  This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal= Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.


HOW TO RESPOND

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the PWG-Log specification and ha= s [no] comments


WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE

Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replac= ing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):

“ids "at" pwg "dot" org (IDS WG mailing list - yo= u must be subscribed!)
jmurdock "at" sharplabs "dot" com (Joe Murdock, IDS WG = Chair)
alan.sukert "at" xerox "dot" com (Alan Sukert, IDS WG S= ecretary)

msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mic= hael Sweet, PWG-Log Editor)

Note that you must be subscribed to the IDS WG mailing list to send email t= here - otherwise your email will be silently discarded.

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.

Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 i= s located at:

       &n= bsp;        http://www.pwg.org/chair/= membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

--------------------= -------------------

Joe Murdock

Principal Engineer a= nd Researcher

Chair IEEE/ISTO Prin= ter Working Group Imaging Device Security

Sharp Labs of Americ= a

5750 NW Pacific Rim = Blvd

Camas, WA 98607=

(360) 817-7542<= /o:p>

jmurdock@sharplabs.com

 


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I have posted the minutes from today's joint IPP/Cloud Imaging WG conference call to:


We meet next on December 5th and 6th at the face-to-face meeting, then not until January 7th and 14th in 2013 at 3pm ET.

New action item:

- Mike to post MSN2 for PWG Last Call

__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


--
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Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrHJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFMmVnfX/c0BBk/PC1oc+RZrsa51NbMD k8fWkz/YPOYtns4UwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlXHsVxdzQT9/xe8Ll5kbGOfydDFyckgImEjc fvObHcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5DAZCaJ/sMvwBJsAmoSvyf1sYLYzAJaEjf+vWSCsLUlli18zQxi swioSlw40QJkc3AICyRIrLqcBxIWETCW2NG+lw3E5hWwkXi0eC87hK0ncbhzOyvEXlmJFVN7 mSYw8sxCsmEWkg2zkLQsYGRexShYlJqTWGloppdYUJCTqpecn7uJERQqDYXmOxi3/5U7xCjA wajEwyu4YHOAEGtiWXFl7iFGCQ5mJRHeX9uBQrwpiZVVqUX58UWlOanFhxilOViUxHkPXtgY ICSQnliSmp2aWpBaBJNl4uCUamBMmP5oeq6i4LVXv46s9Crd6VLXoMtcNzvyvDlj3Wap/imB Gm8qSw+o71e6dnLVgdWukdNNbi5v4POYqPl4T4JLosSlB0u94t5+DvTd91Vn0v0ru7uS5ymp KDJFzIrfs1RVWvKLIm9+bubP9743s+vEFkx85KCuU+/opl8VPW+i5R9eHf3ri6qVWIozEg21 mIuKEwGzQQTPEQIAAA== X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call of PWG Media Standardized Names Version 2.0 (MSN2) (11/26/12 to 12/21/12) X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group Announcement List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: C4E7F79273.AC404 X-pwg-MailScanner-From: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org All, [This PWG Last Call starts today Monday November 26, 2012 and ends Friday December 21, 2012 at 10pm US PST.] This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the PWG Media Standardized Names Version 2.0 (MSN2) specification, located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-pwgmsn20-20121116.pdf All required attributes and values defined in this document have been prototyped by Apple and/or other vendors. The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and an IPP WG last call. The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment. HOW TO RESPOND Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: Subject: has reviewed the MSN2 specification and has [no] comments WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): ipp "at" pwg "dot" org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Michael Sweet, IPP WG Secretary and MSN2 Editor) Note that you must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email there - otherwise your email will be silently discarded. Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf __________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Nov 26 18:07:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA56C21F8835 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:07:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AYs86ZLJGEeF for ; 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Thanks Mike.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira Mc= Donald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pri= nting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-= ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434
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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 56567792A7.A81FA X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, Just noticed some missing references in IPP Everywhere: UAX15, UNICODE Also, the reference to RFC3629 in the internationalization considerations should be STD63. ________________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Nov 28 12:54:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E82721F84BB for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qj5sXXs8lH0D for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859E321F843E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D57792B0; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:54:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from EEAEX01.us.epson.net (eeaex01.eea.epson.com [12.9.144.164]) by pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D189792A8 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from EEAEX02.us.epson.net ([148.130.64.7]) by EEAEX01.us.epson.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:53:59 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:53:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Epson has reviewed the MSN2 specification and has no comments Thread-Index: Ac3NqkiElSfjKVF5TsKtfEqorZWKYw== From: "Petrie, Glen" To: , "Ira McDonald" , , "Michael Sweet" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2012 20:53:59.0659 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D755BB0:01CDCDAA] X-pwg-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean Cc: Subject: [IPP] Epson has reviewed the MSN2 specification and has no comments X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Internet Printing Protocol \(current\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0426729223==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org X-pwg-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-pwg-MailScanner-ID: 65D57792B0.A899B X-pwg-MailScanner-From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0426729223== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CDCDAA.7D2A95FA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CDCDAA.7D2A95FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CDCDAA.7D2A95FA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 


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