From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 1 04:29:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE2621F9EDB for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 04:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.178, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WYL2U9cEhK8e for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 04:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B18221F9EB6 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45266866B; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:37:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2600C8668 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:37:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay8.apple.com ([17.128.113.102]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MTZ00AJ4MINHOV0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:28:17 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807166-b7fe86d000004e30-37-524ab1cf4f95 Received: from [17.153.47.226] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.47.226]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 7D.BB.20016.0D1BA425; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:28:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 07:28:14 -0400 Message-id: <9F149C05-D7DF-40C4-BD62-A5D7AB5D870A@apple.com> References: To: "Manchala, Daniel" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1811) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFP/ke7FjV5BBu87eC0e75jManFs30sW iyPfYh2YPbae/MHmMW/xdCaP5afWswUwR3HZpKTmZJalFunbJXBltPW1MRXMq6h49OQScwPj 7bQuRk4OCQETidXzHzNC2GISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEuhlkriyroENJCEsYCexfOZMZhCbV0BPYlHD SxYQm1kgQWL2ynnsIDabgJrE70l9rCA2p0CgxM5FfWBDWQRUJDb/bmKCqJeXaLhzBaiXA2iO jcSGbnmQsJBAgMSBJ6fBxosIGEk8WLWYBeIeWYnPR3exTWDkm4Vk8ywkmyFsbYllC18zQ9gG Ek87X7FiiutLvHk3h2kBI9sqRoGi1JzESgu9xIKCnFS95PzcTYygoG0oTNvB2LTc6hCjAAej Eg/vjRrPICHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivJIrvYKEeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ897UBUoJ pCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pRoYZzs9/NK94ug2Xt0l+37ll5sx7b12fcPJ1SwyGsU2gcVzmX+Z LVSUvLld22JtfHeHdafygcnRK2Ydbfwzr7plWfyG3SLPGHWKXy6OLUie7e9yOudMSL6dR00h 56XQPxIGgVpvfG2mJto5sRcwzft+/39R9uLdPA8sxHpDVFeuzYlVFxGNY9dUYinOSDTUYi4q TgQAC7QkU1YCAAA= Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Overloading Validate-Job Operation Request. X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1978359075==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1978359075== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_S8WQngCw7mSifk086NBrGA)" --Boundary_(ID_S8WQngCw7mSifk086NBrGA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, The recommended practice for Clients is to send an empty Validate-Job = request (just printer-uri and requesting-user-name) to verify the = selection of the Printer by the User - this verifies access to the = Printer and allows the Printer to require authentication. If = authenticated, subsequent requests to the Printer will include the = negotiated HTTP credentials, per RFC 2616/2617. When the Client next sends a Get-Printer-Attributes request with the = existing credentials, the Printer MAY return a filtered list of Job = Template attributes and values that the Client/User is authorized to use = - the printer-get-attributes-supported attribute tells the Client which = attributes are used for filtering the returned values. The presence of = "requesting-user-name" indicates that the Printer will use the = most-authenticated user name, per the usual RFC 2911 usage of = requesting-user-name for requests. I would be happy to add a paragraph specifically about this to the = Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification - it would be an = excellent editorial comment as part of your vote for the PWG Formal Vote = of the spec that was recently approved by the Steering Committee, We should also make the consequences of the HTTP security model clear in = Smith's IPP Implementers Guide 2.0 document as well - a User Agent = re-uses the Authentication header in subsequent requests to the same = origin for the duration of the User Agent's "session", e.g., the life of = a web browser process, the life of a print job submission, etc. On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Manchala, Daniel = wrote: > Current day printer driver user interfaces esp. those for mobile = clients need a UI that displays only those capabilities that a user = has before submitting a job (or grey out those features that are not = available to certain users who do not have the authorization / = privileges / rights to use those features). We discussed the merits of = using Validate-Job. > =20 > The problem with Validate-Job as we discussed in one of our earlier = IPP meetings is this (using a scenario): If there is a request for = simplex printing in the Validate-Job request it means the user interface = already allowed the user to select simplex printing. The desired = scenario is that the UI only present the user (at the client interface) = with the capabilities they have. So I don't know that Validate-Job is = useable to check for user capabilities (that the client uses first to = determine capabilities). > =20 > Using the current definition of Validate-Job, one needs to perform job = programming and validate it by sending a set of attributes regarding how = the user wants their job to be programmed or processed. This is not = helpful for an UI (esp. mobile clients) that want to display to the user = only those capabilities that the user is authorized to use (which is a = sub set of all the Printer capabilities or a super set of a guest user = whose capabilities are returned by a Get-Printer-Attributes request). > =20 > The request is to add a new operation =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 = wherein one submits user=92s credentials along with the operation = request so that the operation response contains a = =93job-authorization-uri=94 which in turn can be used to obtain those = capabilities of the Printer that the user has authorization to use or = the operation response just contains the user=92s capabilities for the = Printer. > =20 > In the former case, we need to make the following one small change to = the IPP Transaction Based Printing spec. > =20 > Section 6.1.2 =93job-authorization-uri (uri)=94 states: > =20 > The "job-authorization-uri" operation attribute specifies an = implementation-specific URI representing an authorization or reservation = code for a print job creation request. It is returned by the = Validate-Job operation (section 7.2) and supplied in the Create-Job, = Print-Job, and Print-URI operations (section 7.1). > =20 > This should be extended as: > =20 > The =93job-authorization-uri=94 would be returned by the new = =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 operation request. The authorization or = reservation code represented by the =93job-authorization-uri=94 could be = used by Get-Printer-Attributes request to return the authenticated user = capabilities. > =20 > The reason to make this change is because the unauthorized = Get-Printer-Attributes returns a limited set of capabilities (e.g., the = set of capabilities of a guest user) on a system that has authentication = enabled. > =20 > If it is not acceptable to extend the semantics of = =93job-authorization-uri=94, could we create a =93user-authorization-uri=94= that could be used to get the user=92s capabilities? > =20 > Thanks, > Daniel. >=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_S8WQngCw7mSifk086NBrGA) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Daniel,


The = recommended practice for Clients is to send an empty Validate-Job = request (just printer-uri and requesting-user-name) to verify the = selection of the Printer by the User - this verifies access to the = Printer and allows the Printer to require authentication. If = authenticated, subsequent requests to the Printer will include the = negotiated HTTP credentials, per RFC = 2616/2617.

When the Client next sends a = Get-Printer-Attributes request with the existing credentials, the = Printer MAY return a filtered list of Job Template attributes and values = that the Client/User is authorized to use - the = printer-get-attributes-supported attribute tells the Client which = attributes are used for filtering the returned values.  The = presence of "requesting-user-name" indicates that the Printer will use = the most-authenticated user name, per the usual RFC 2911 usage of = requesting-user-name for requests.

I would be = happy to add a paragraph specifically about this to the = Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification - it would be an = excellent editorial comment as part of your vote for the PWG Formal Vote = of the spec that was recently approved by the Steering = Committee,

We should also make the consequences = of the HTTP security model clear in Smith's IPP Implementers Guide 2.0 = document as well - a User Agent re-uses the Authentication header in = subsequent requests to the same origin for the duration of the User = Agent's "session", e.g., the life of a web browser process, the life of = a print job submission, = etc.



On Oct = 1, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Manchala, Daniel <Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com>= ; wrote:

Current day printer = driver user interfaces esp. those for mobile clients need a  UI = that  displays only those capabilities that a user has before = submitting a job (or grey out those features that are not available to = certain users who do not have the authorization / privileges / rights to use those = features).  We discussed the merits of using = Validate-Job.

 

The problem with Validate-Job as we discussed in = one of our earlier IPP meetings is this (using a scenario):  If there is a request for simplex = printing in the Validate-Job request it means the user interface already = allowed the user to select simplex printing. The desired scenario = is that the UI only present the user (at the client interface) with the capabilities they have.  So I don't know that = Validate-Job is useable to check for user capabilities (that the client = uses first to determine capabilities).

 

Using the current = definition of Validate-Job, one needs to perform job programming and = validate it by sending a set of attributes regarding how the user wants = their job to be programmed or processed. This is not helpful for an UI (esp. mobile clients) that want to display to the = user only those capabilities that the user is authorized to use (which = is a sub set of all the Printer capabilities or a super set of a guest = user whose capabilities are returned by a Get-Printer-Attributes request).

 

The request is to add a new operation = =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 wherein one submits user=92s credentials = along with the operation request so that the operation response contains = a =93job-authorization-uri=94 which in turn can be used to obtain those capabilities of the Printer that the user has authorization to = use or the operation response just contains the user=92s capabilities = for the Printer.

 

In the = former case, we need to make the following = one small change to the IPP Transaction Based Printing = spec.

 

Section 6.1.2 =93job-authorization-uri (uri)=94 = states:

 

The "job-authorization-uri" operation attribute specifies an = implementation-specific URI representing an authorization or reservation = code for a print job creation request. It is returned by the Validate-Job = operation (section 7.2) and supplied in the Create-Job, Print-Job, and = Print-URI operations (section 7.1).

 

This should be = extended as:

 

The =93job-authorization-uri=94  would be = returned by the new =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 operation request. The = authorization or reservation code represented by the = =93job-authorization-uri=94 could be used by Get-Printer-Attributes request to return the authenticated user capabilities. =

 

The reason to make this change is because the = unauthorized Get-Printer-Attributes returns a limited set of = capabilities (e.g., the set of capabilities of a guest user) on a system = that has authentication enabled.

 

If it is not = acceptable to extend the semantics of =93job-authorization-uri=94, could = we create a =93user-authorization-uri=94 that could be used to get the = user=92s capabilities?

 

Thanks,

Daniel.

 

 

 

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ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman= /listinfo/ipp

_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_S8WQngCw7mSifk086NBrGA)-- --===============1978359075== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1978359075==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 1 05:47:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC4821E80F4 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:47:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.282 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.282 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.316, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8W9vWIh9PdHV for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9D521E80C1 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 05:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60148682; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:56:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from g4t0017.houston.hp.com (g4t0017.houston.hp.com [15.201.24.20]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C07CE866B for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (g4w6310.houston.hp.com [16.210.26.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by g4t0017.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DC0538021; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G9W3615.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.216.186.50) by G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.210.26.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.123.3; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:46:54 +0000 Received: from G9W0739.americas.hpqcorp.net ([169.254.10.155]) by G9W3615.americas.hpqcorp.net ([16.216.186.50]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:46:54 +0000 From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" To: Michael Sweet Thread-Topic: [IPP] Overloading Validate-Job Operation Request. Thread-Index: Ac6+ZSQ2ZiOW9BE3Tji4Yug+3gX+zQANCzgAAAK/L4A= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:46:53 +0000 Message-ID: <200BAA67-F32C-4608-87C9-D42563067C02@hp.com> References: <9F149C05-D7DF-40C4-BD62-A5D7AB5D870A@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <9F149C05-D7DF-40C4-BD62-A5D7AB5D870A@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [15.201.58.26] MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Overloading Validate-Job Operation Request. X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0973564271==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0973564271== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2C6E04B9-E573-404E-96F8-49ACF3C3BA8C"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_2C6E04B9-E573-404E-96F8-49ACF3C3BA8C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8D370659-F32A-49B3-AD38-88BB53311609" --Apple-Mail=_8D370659-F32A-49B3-AD38-88BB53311609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Mike and Daniel, The IPP Implementor's Guide v2.0 sections 4.2 "Validate User Access to = Printer" and 4.3 "Get Printer Options" covers this, though as Mike = pointed out there are some details here that would need to be more fully = covered to make it clear that if the client has authenticated in any way = when validating access, it should use that same authenticating identity = when getting printer information and print job options. I'm trying to get another draft out today (I know, promises, promises) = and I've added a new sub-bullet to 4.2 to further discuss this. Daniel, thanks for bringing this issue up! Smith On 2013-10-01, at 5:28 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Daniel, >=20 >=20 > The recommended practice for Clients is to send an empty Validate-Job = request (just printer-uri and requesting-user-name) to verify the = selection of the Printer by the User - this verifies access to the = Printer and allows the Printer to require authentication. If = authenticated, subsequent requests to the Printer will include the = negotiated HTTP credentials, per RFC 2616/2617. >=20 > When the Client next sends a Get-Printer-Attributes request with the = existing credentials, the Printer MAY return a filtered list of Job = Template attributes and values that the Client/User is authorized to use = - the printer-get-attributes-supported attribute tells the Client which = attributes are used for filtering the returned values. The presence of = "requesting-user-name" indicates that the Printer will use the = most-authenticated user name, per the usual RFC 2911 usage of = requesting-user-name for requests. >=20 > I would be happy to add a paragraph specifically about this to the = Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification - it would be an = excellent editorial comment as part of your vote for the PWG Formal Vote = of the spec that was recently approved by the Steering Committee, >=20 > We should also make the consequences of the HTTP security model clear = in Smith's IPP Implementers Guide 2.0 document as well - a User Agent = re-uses the Authentication header in subsequent requests to the same = origin for the duration of the User Agent's "session", e.g., the life of = a web browser process, the life of a print job submission, etc. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Manchala, Daniel = wrote: >=20 >> Current day printer driver user interfaces esp. those for mobile = clients need a UI that displays only those capabilities that a user = has before submitting a job (or grey out those features that are not = available to certain users who do not have the authorization / = privileges / rights to use those features). We discussed the merits of = using Validate-Job. >> =20 >> The problem with Validate-Job as we discussed in one of our earlier = IPP meetings is this (using a scenario): If there is a request for = simplex printing in the Validate-Job request it means the user interface = already allowed the user to select simplex printing. The desired = scenario is that the UI only present the user (at the client interface) = with the capabilities they have. So I don't know that Validate-Job is = useable to check for user capabilities (that the client uses first to = determine capabilities). >> =20 >> Using the current definition of Validate-Job, one needs to perform = job programming and validate it by sending a set of attributes regarding = how the user wants their job to be programmed or processed. This is not = helpful for an UI (esp. mobile clients) that want to display to the user = only those capabilities that the user is authorized to use (which is a = sub set of all the Printer capabilities or a super set of a guest user = whose capabilities are returned by a Get-Printer-Attributes request). >> =20 >> The request is to add a new operation =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 = wherein one submits user=92s credentials along with the operation = request so that the operation response contains a = =93job-authorization-uri=94 which in turn can be used to obtain those = capabilities of the Printer that the user has authorization to use or = the operation response just contains the user=92s capabilities for the = Printer. >> =20 >> In the former case, we need to make the following one small change to = the IPP Transaction Based Printing spec. >> =20 >> Section 6.1.2 =93job-authorization-uri (uri)=94 states: >> =20 >> The "job-authorization-uri" operation attribute specifies an = implementation-specific URI representing an authorization or reservation = code for a print job creation request. It is returned by the = Validate-Job operation (section 7.2) and supplied in the Create-Job, = Print-Job, and Print-URI operations (section 7.1). >> =20 >> This should be extended as: >> =20 >> The =93job-authorization-uri=94 would be returned by the new = =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 operation request. The authorization or = reservation code represented by the =93job-authorization-uri=94 could be = used by Get-Printer-Attributes request to return the authenticated user = capabilities. >> =20 >> The reason to make this change is because the unauthorized = Get-Printer-Attributes returns a limited set of capabilities (e.g., the = set of capabilities of a guest user) on a system that has authentication = enabled. >> =20 >> If it is not acceptable to extend the semantics of = =93job-authorization-uri=94, could we create a =93user-authorization-uri=94= that could be used to get the user=92s capabilities? >> =20 >> Thanks, >> Daniel. >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_8D370659-F32A-49B3-AD38-88BB53311609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi = Mike and Daniel,

The IPP Implementor's Guide = v2.0 sections 4.2 "Validate User Access to Printer" and = 4.3 "Get Printer Options" covers this, though as Mike pointed out there = are some details here that would need to be more fully covered to make = it clear that if the client has authenticated in any way when validating = access, it should use that same authenticating identity when getting = printer information and print job options.

I'm = trying to get another draft out today (I know, promises, promises) and = I've added a new sub-bullet to 4.2 to further discuss = this.

Daniel, thanks for bringing this issue = up!

Smith



On 2013-10-01, at 5:28 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
 = wrote:

Daniel,


The = recommended practice for Clients is to send an empty Validate-Job = request (just printer-uri and requesting-user-name) to verify the = selection of the Printer by the User - this verifies access to the = Printer and allows the Printer to require authentication. If = authenticated, subsequent requests to the Printer will include the = negotiated HTTP credentials, per RFC = 2616/2617.

When the Client next sends a = Get-Printer-Attributes request with the existing credentials, the = Printer MAY return a filtered list of Job Template attributes and values = that the Client/User is authorized to use - the = printer-get-attributes-supported attribute tells the Client which = attributes are used for filtering the returned values.  The = presence of "requesting-user-name" indicates that the Printer will use = the most-authenticated user name, per the usual RFC 2911 usage of = requesting-user-name for requests.

I would be = happy to add a paragraph specifically about this to the = Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification - it would be an = excellent editorial comment as part of your vote for the PWG Formal Vote = of the spec that was recently approved by the Steering = Committee,

We should also make the consequences = of the HTTP security model clear in Smith's IPP Implementers Guide 2.0 = document as well - a User Agent re-uses the Authentication header in = subsequent requests to the same origin for the duration of the User = Agent's "session", e.g., the life of a web browser process, the life of = a print job submission, = etc.



On Oct = 1, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Manchala, Daniel <Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com>= ; wrote:

Current day printer = driver user interfaces esp. those for mobile clients need a  UI = that  displays only those capabilities that a user has before = submitting a job (or grey out those features that are not available to = certain users who do not have the authorization / privileges / rights to use those = features).  We discussed the merits of using = Validate-Job.

 

The problem with Validate-Job as we discussed in = one of our earlier IPP meetings is this (using a scenario):  If there is a request for simplex = printing in the Validate-Job request it means the user interface already = allowed the user to select simplex printing. The desired scenario = is that the UI only present the user (at the client interface) with the capabilities they have.  So I don't know that = Validate-Job is useable to check for user capabilities (that the client = uses first to determine capabilities).

 

Using the current definition of Validate-Job, = one needs to perform job programming and validate it by sending a set of = attributes regarding how the user wants their job to be programmed or = processed. This is not helpful for an UI (esp. mobile clients) that want to display to the = user only those capabilities that the user is authorized to use (which = is a sub set of all the Printer capabilities or a super set of a guest = user whose capabilities are returned by a Get-Printer-Attributes request).

 

The = request is to add a new operation =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 wherein = one submits user=92s credentials along with the operation request so = that the operation response contains a =93job-authorization-uri=94 which = in turn can be used to obtain those capabilities of the Printer that the user has authorization to = use or the operation response just contains the user=92s capabilities = for the Printer.

 

In the = former case, we need to make the following = one small change to the IPP Transaction Based Printing = spec.

 

Section 6.1.2 =93job-authorization-uri (uri)=94 = states:

 

The "job-authorization-uri" operation attribute specifies an = implementation-specific URI representing an authorization or reservation = code for a print job creation request. It is returned by the Validate-Job = operation (section 7.2) and supplied in the Create-Job, Print-Job, and = Print-URI operations (section 7.1).

 

This should be extended = as:

 

The =93job-authorization-uri=94  would be = returned by the new =93Get-User-Capabilities=94 operation request. The = authorization or reservation code represented by the = =93job-authorization-uri=94 could be used by Get-Printer-Attributes request to return the authenticated user capabilities. =

 

The reason to make this change is because the = unauthorized Get-Printer-Attributes returns a limited set of = capabilities (e.g., the set of capabilities of a guest user) on a system = that has authentication enabled.

 

If it is not acceptable to extend the semantics = of =93job-authorization-uri=94, could we create a = =93user-authorization-uri=94 that could be used to get the user=92s = capabilities?

 

Thanks,

Daniel.

 

 

 

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On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker - Mike (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20130923.pdf (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike) * IETF 'ipps' URI Scheme and LDAP Printer Schema (Ira) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp /wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-08-20130919.pdf - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp /wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-05-20130919.pdf -- sent to IETF Application Area Directors 19 September * IPP WG Charter (Ira) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20130919-rev.pdf -- waiting for PWG SC review and approval * IPP Self-Certification (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20130731-rev.pdf -- waiting for new draft from Mike * IPP Shared Infrastructure Extensions (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsix10-20130923-rev.pdf -- Prototoype draft -- waiting for prototype reports * IPP Fax Out (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130920.pdf -- second IPP WG Last Call (23 September to 7 October) -- waiting for PWG SC process approval -- Mike to announce PWG Formal Vote * IPP Transaction-based Printing Extensions (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20130922-rev.pdf -- PWG SC process approval on 26 September -- Mike to announce PWG Formal Vote (4) Proposal to add IPP firmware attributes from PWG 5110.1 (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2013/017668.html -- reviewed on 23 September -- should be changed to printer-firmware-patches (1setOf text(MAX)) -- Joe/Ira to draft errata to HCD Health Attributes for firmware patches -- waiting for Mike/Ira to draft IPP System Control Service (5) Review of IPP Finishings v2.0 (Mike) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings20-20130814.pdf -- stopped review at section 5.1 on 23 September (6) Review of IPP Implementors Guide v2.0 (Smith) - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippig20-20131002-rev.pdf -- ready for review (7) Next steps - Cloud/IPP WG telecon on Monday 14 October - slide review - IPP sessions at PWG F2F telecon on 22/23 October - IPP WG telecon on Monday 4 November Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --90e6ba6e8650f4c18f04e8141c87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Attendee A= ccess Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:= =A0 Please do NOT use the Webex audio bridge feature - instead use the
regular PWG conference bridge above!

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= Agenda:
= (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
- Mike

(2) Approve IPP minute= s from previous meetings
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c= oncall-minutes-20130923.pdf

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike)
* IETF 'ipps' URI Scheme and LDAP Print= er Schema (Ira)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p= wg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ldap-printer-schema-05-201= 30919.pdf
-- sent to IETF Application Area Directors 19 September
-- waiting for PWG SC review and approval

* IPP Self-Certification (Mik= e)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20130731-rev.pdf
-- waiting for new draft from Mike

* IPP Sha= red Infrastructure Extensions (Mike)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.or= g/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsix10-20130923-rev.pdf
-- Prototoype draft
-- waiting for prototype reports

* IPP Fax Out (Mike)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg= /ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130920.pdf
-- second IPP WG Last Call (23 September to 7 October)
-- wai= ting for PWG SC process approval
-- Mike to announce PWG Formal Vote
=
* IPP Transaction-based Printing Extensions (Mike)
- ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/= wd/wd-ipptrans10-20130922-rev.pdf
-- PWG SC process approval on 26 September
-- Mike to announ= ce PWG Formal Vote

(4) Proposal to = add IPP firmware attributes from PWG 5110.1 (Mike)<= br> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2013/017668.h= tml
-- reviewed on 23 September
-- should b= e changed to printer-firmware-patches (1setOf text(MAX))
-- Joe/Ira to draft errata to HCD Health Attributes for firmware= patches
-- waiting for Mike/Ira to draft IPP System Control = Service

(5) Review of IPP Finishings v2.0 (Mike)
-- stopped review at section 5.1 on 23 September

(6= ) Review of IPP Implementors Guide v2.0 (Smith)

Cheers,
- Ira
--90e6ba6e8650f4c18f04e8141c87-- --===============1469138817== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1469138817==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Oct 7 14:17:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5011E8176 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:17:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DXy05gN557Vx for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B63C11E8174 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F608543; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:26:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F9C08540 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 21:26:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay6.apple.com ([17.128.113.90]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUB00AF1HRO2OW0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:17:26 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180715a-b7fdb6d000004dc1-89-525324e46aa2 Received: from [17.153.54.233] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.54.233]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 10.97.19905.5E423525; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:17:23 -0400 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiONPspe4zleAggyWP+S2O7XvJYnHkW6wD k8fWkz/YPOYtns4UwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlbH1zEbGghkSFT1bJjA2MC4T7WLk5JAQMJH4 vWApG4QtJnHh3nogm4tDSKCXSWJi12pGkASbgJrE70l9rCA2s0CCxK9bj8AaWARUJC5c/coE YgsLGEs82NYCVi8iwC8x8SJEPa+AjcSVhw2MELaexJXH21m6GDmAlslKfDpsNoGRexaSqbOQ VEHEtSWWLXzNPAuog1lAR2LyQkZUYQj74/kjTAsY2VYxChSl5iRWmuklFhTkpOol5+duYgSF VUNh1A7GhuVWhxgFOBiVeHgzjgYFCbEmlhVX5h5ilOBgVhLhXawYHCTEm5JYWZValB9fVJqT WnyIUZqDRUmc94YVULVAemJJanZqakFqEUyWiYNTqoExkZG109V66sZdyiWu5YE/Thm+nqvX otV79vqTF4Fm6fYvd6T/+tZc/oZX/JBLY5TzzC9s26Y/ya5fcnjR87OLroXVLy2/dI47cr3O jRSufcqn3xg1p+r3/r+9/v960cfThLQ3/knICv6bU8I8afOvVi+9W7/uXrm9c8EWtos/pUtt svtmTG+3UGIpzkg01GIuKk4EALefhlonAgAA Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from today's IPP WG concall X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0356767096==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0356767096== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SOT/a2F9a9HHG/CNLdlJJw)" --Boundary_(ID_SOT/a2F9a9HHG/CNLdlJJw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20131007.pdf Our next conference call will be on October 14, 2013 at 3pm with the Cloud Imaging Model WG. Action items: - Ira/Paul/SM workgroup to review values of finishings-col member attributes to make sure we have parity with common JDF values - Ira and Mike to make sure finishing MIB and Finishings 2.0 are in sync - Mike to send Ira a copy of the prtInputType registration that was done in the Printer MIB _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_SOT/a2F9a9HHG/CNLdlJJw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I have posted the minutes = from today's IPP workgroup conference call = to:


Our next conference call will be on = October 14, 2013 at 3pm with the Cloud Imaging Model = WG.

Action = items:

- Ira/Paul/SM workgroup to = review values of finishings-col member attributes to make sure we = have parity with common JDF values
= - Ira and Mike to make sure finishing MIB and Finishings 2.0 = are in sync
- Mike to send Ira a copy of = the prtInputType registration that was done in the Printer = MIB

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_SOT/a2F9a9HHG/CNLdlJJw)-- --===============0356767096== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0356767096==-- From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 07:35:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A837221E8096 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:35:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V0Q3p5uCa3T3 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441AA21E817E for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A6B85BE; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:44:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 960E48534 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:44:34 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay2.apple.com ([17.128.113.67]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUC009VETUNXSE0@mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:35:17 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807143-b7fce6d000001c8e-2f-525418235f18 Received: from [17.153.33.239] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.33.239]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay2.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id EA.2D.07310.42814525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:35:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Message-id: Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:35:17 -0400 To: "PWG Announcements Inc." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrEJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFPxva6qREiQwdabohbrWlczOzB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4+LpftaC8xwV0zo7mRoYu9i7GDk5JARMJO533GWBsMUkLtxb z9bFyMUhJNDLJHHvyTcmkASbgJrE70l9rCA2s4CWxI1/L5kgbG2JZQtfM3cxcnAIC3hJXD+q AWLyCthI9K6SBqlgEVCRmDDpHVi1iICxxI72vWwgNq+AnsSVx9tZQMolBGQlPh02m8DIMwvJ /FlI5s9C0rGAkXkVo0BRak5ipZFeYkFBTqpecn7uJkZQSDQUOu9gPLbM6hCjAAejEg/vA/6Q ICHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivNNAQrwpiZVVqUX58UWlOanFhxilOViUxHmvWQUFCQmkJ5akZqem FqQWwWSZODilGhh5leYG30y4M12k2/Ghd7/b/cB19jb30vnPrO2c+mJKxH+bY2t3fOBfZVlz P3CP+E1ROyeh8DT/AB/NHUHb9nGcvMS+02+/7WMfsUMKkR+isrOyZvSeORRR5OnjvZNpTscl w+vMjycZhEvnRT6bUml3Q7F/e3NC0PVPknfmxKtsvv991YJ7zHuUWIozEg21mIuKEwF6X8BQ BQIAAA== Subject: [PWG-Announce] [REMINDER] PWG October 2013 Face-to-Face Meeting in Cupertino, CA X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org [This is a reminder to register for the PWG October 2013 Face-to-Face meeting if you haven't done so already...] All, The October 2013 PWG face-to-face meeting page is now available. The agenda and venue information can be found at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/october_2013_cupertino.html This page will be updated with document links as the material becomes available. Please visit the October 2013 survey page PRIOR TO October 18, 2013 and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/V8R9QND For those not able to attend in person, the usual telephone bridge number will be provided. The details of the conference call are: Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 Attendee access code: Please request from the PWG Chair (msweet@apple.com) if you need it. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 09:35:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B88021E8269 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:35:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c-720uXwJv6k for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D021E81C6 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC238683; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7BC0866B for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:44:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay4.apple.com ([17.128.113.87]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUC009CYZERXSJ0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807157-b7f466d0000039e3-61-525434485901 Received: from [17.153.33.239] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.33.239]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay4.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 55.5B.14819.94434525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 09:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:35:20 -0400 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: <97DB53C2-F1B3-4432-A5E6-EC90C3956C38@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprILMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFPxva6XSUiQQcdEFYtj+16yWBz5FuvA 5LH15A82j3mLpzMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZby98pG5YKpoxZ6rR1gbGH8LdTFyckgImEjM v3afEcIWk7hwbz0biC0k0MskcXA/P4jNJqAm8XtSHyuIzSyQIPGh8ThQDQcHi4CKxI4dCiBh YQFDiel3XjKB2CIC/BITL4KUc3DwCthIrG2tAQnzCuhJXHm8nQUkLCEgK/HpsNkERu5ZSGbO QlIFEZeX2P52DvMsoA5mAR2JyQsZIcLaEssWvmaGsT+eP8K0gJFtFaNAUWpOYqWJXmJBQU6q XnJ+7iZGUEA1FIbvYPy3zOoQowAHoxIPbwdvSJAQa2JZcWXuIUYJDmYlEV4TWaAQb0piZVVq UX58UWlOavEhRmkOFiVx3utWQUFCAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGxs0TrPn69PjbD/47nZgn 4aO0e//Kq+KWp45NP8aXo+zK1sA5n09PxaMge5WJVb3t+yVXTJZdu9K+LpxtG2PvrJu7stte njhfVrrAesfTm4v3qXdm35l/48D6l5uqgyy3NS0UE/Zsecaoee/s0YDn+47tV9ee3f31aH78 n/6CiVfk9U58k1jzw1eJpTgj0VCLuag4EQA8fHy5JAIAAA== Subject: [IPP] Draft slides for October 2013 F2F posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1809610673==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1809610673== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PrTb4Kg4pE8riibeHFsoww)" --Boundary_(ID_PrTb4Kg4pE8riibeHFsoww) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted draft slides for the October 2013 F2F to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-october-13d1.pdf For review at next week's conference call. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_PrTb4Kg4pE8riibeHFsoww) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I have posted draft slides = for the October 2013 F2F to:


For review at next week's conference = call.

_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_PrTb4Kg4pE8riibeHFsoww)-- --===============1809610673== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1809610673==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 10:25:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A046411E80FB for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:25:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E8Ed-xa3Xqme for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081C121E80AD for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64344866B; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A598D8668 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:34:14 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay3.apple.com ([17.128.113.83]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUD00G2V1O0KR00@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807153-b7fa56d000007d7a-7e-52543fd03059 Received: from [17.153.100.223] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.100.223]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay3.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 9B.69.32122.4DF34525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:24:31 -0400 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiODPlvu5V+5Aggyf3NC2O7XvJYnHkW6wD k8fWkz/YPOYtns4UwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlXH5+AnmgpNiFYd+T2NtYDwh0sXIySEhYCLR O2ElE4QtJnHh3nq2LkYuDiGBfiaJiROmMYMk2ATUJH5P6mPtYuTgYBZIkFgyKRUkzCKgInFu 7wewXmGBQIkrJ2aB2SIC/BITL4KUc3LwCthIfOzZzQ5h60lcebydBWSMhICsxKfDZhMYuWch DJ2FpAjEZhbQlli28DUzRImOxOSFjKjCEPbH80eYFjCyrWIUKErNSaw01kssKMhJ1UvOz93E CAqphsLgHYx/llkdYhTgYFTi4e3gDQkSYk0sK67MPcQowcGsJMJrIgsU4k1JrKxKLcqPLyrN SS0+xCjNwaIkznvdKihISCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwNi++pF0aEv/Qu7C/gcqS1+++eD+ cbYqb1NezUTF/MPPF1Y93RERY8nWGpZ7u+OUguxMWZf1eUl6l14cW96mwvxulmFph+ohf0fP BrN7HQKa/u8VE3t3f+Z6dJKbN+5Fu3M/66MK1lOfP+1cpnz6kOkTL5lji3TueSzn/bK34nxS T5at7or9e5VYijMSDbWYi4oTAZhtTJ0lAgAA Subject: [IPP] Updated stable draft of IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0420305444==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0420305444== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PCJ3RVtyFWaXCKg5J3n6zA)" --Boundary_(ID_PCJ3RVtyFWaXCKg5J3n6zA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted an updated stable draft of the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20131008.docx ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20131008.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20131008-rev.pdf _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_PCJ3RVtyFWaXCKg5J3n6zA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I have posted an updated = stable draft of the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions = specification to:


_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_PCJ3RVtyFWaXCKg5J3n6zA)-- --===============0420305444== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0420305444==-- From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 10:31:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931E11E8137 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YYrM8z+iA9ho for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B969A21E80BE for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2547A84D9; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:40:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F4678481 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay3.apple.com ([17.128.113.83]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUD005P11ZK2GY1@mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807153-b7fa56d000007d7a-55-525441642704 Received: from [17.153.100.223] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.100.223]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay3.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 4B.9D.32122.56144525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:31:16 -0400 To: "PWG Announcements Inc." Message-id: <0B37F5A8-CA03-4414-B037-602CD0D70CD3@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiODPlvm6aY0iQwa8LIhZHvsVarGtdzezA 5LH15A82j3mLpzMFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZRzZyFlw3abi4tRO5gbG08ZdjJwcEgImEvu/ tzNC2GISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEuhnkmjt2QSWYBNQk/g9qY8VxGYWSJB48a2HBcRmEVCR+PPvOViN sICzRPO0zewgtoiAscSO9r1Agzg4eAVsJO5+dgIJ8wroSVx5vJ0FJCwhICvx6bDZBEbuWUiG zkJSBRHXlli28DXzLKAOZgEdickLGVGFIeyP548wLWBkW8UoUJSak1hprJdYUJCTqpecn7uJ ERRSDYXBOxj/LLM6xCjAwajEw9vBGxIkxJpYVlyZe4hRgoNZSYTXRBYoxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sa k1p8iFGag0VJnPe6VVCQkEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTJaJg1OqgTF0j+/s31yHp8ckBmp5KX2exP56 8nGnpH/Mfoc27KzRnsWUPIm5oi/0vWzxJ60lTjZMFw8V7svm8l/oGXzk6zd74bavBrwt4Zd6 H/8+ceLrD/1Gbl/H853el/LkV7cKnTxZL7Hp6AYVpg+5s0qMvINOTuVkXed2d+bCJJeG1Lh/ G/9Ipd+4uUuJpTgj0VCLuag4EQCO6ZE2JQIAAA== Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Formal Vote: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0422901101==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============0422901101== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ghFiJClh/8HZEMZU2qEqtg)" --Boundary_(ID_ghFiJClh/8HZEMZU2qEqtg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings: VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL! See voting instructions below. This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification, which is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20131008.pdf The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ipptrans10.txt VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start Today, 8 October 2013 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday, 8 November 2013. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote. PWG Privacy Policy: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors. HOW TO VOTE: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Formal Vote--- Example: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes Rules: (1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" vote into a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0. (2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any *technical* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval. WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions Editor) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote). Notes: (1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. (2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_ghFiJClh/8HZEMZU2qEqtg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Greetings:

VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL!  See = voting instructions below.

This email initiates the Formal = Approval vote by the PWG membership on the IPP Transaction-Based = Printing Extensions specification, which is located at:

  =  ftp:/= /ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipptrans10-20131008.pdf

The = complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located = at:

  =  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ipptrans10.txt


VOTI= NG PERIOD:  This Formal Vote will start Today, 8 October 2013 and = will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday, 8 November = 2013.

Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), = Abstain.


Representatives from PWG member companies are = strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote.

PWG = Privacy Policy:  Your vote is confidential and will not be = disclosed by PWG officers or document editors.


HOW TO = VOTE:

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line = format:

 IPP Transaction-Based Printing Formal = Vote-<company name>-<voter's last = name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

Example:

 IPP Tran= saction-Based Printing Formal = Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes


Rules:

(1) Any "No" vote MUST = state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description = of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" vote into = a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWG = Process/3.0.

(2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* = comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain = "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(4) Any "Yes" vote = MUST NOT contain any  *technical* comments, per = PWG Process/3.0.

(5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward = quorum, but not approval.


WHERE TO SEND YOUR = VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the following email = addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with = '@'):

msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, = IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions = Editor)

blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG = Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)

ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul = Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Please do NOT simply reply to this = note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the = confidentiality of your vote).


Notes:

(1) This Formal = Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and = the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality = agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of = these documents and the links are provided below.

(2) To be = eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy = of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their = dues.

The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process = Version 3.0 is located = at:

 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pd= f

The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is = located = at:

 http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pd= f

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_ghFiJClh/8HZEMZU2qEqtg)-- --===============0422901101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --===============0422901101==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 17:54:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6308621F8F6D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DHPOxQtA6m9H for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E146021F9DB4 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65F85BC; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:03:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (bramley.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9FE88540 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:03:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay8.apple.com ([17.128.113.102]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUD00MWWMI233X0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807166-b7fe86d000004e30-18-5254a9284122 Received: from [17.153.23.75] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.23.75]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id DE.15.20016.929A4525; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:53:59 -0400 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: <46237E10-2CA6-4091-84F3-9861B0B561B9@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFPcW1drZUiQwYQbshbH9r1ksTjyLdaB yWPryR9sHvMWT2cKYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgyti57C5zwTvVih2rzzA3MF5W6GLk5JAQMJFY 3HucFcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5BAN5PExnu/wRJsAmoSvyf1gdnMAgkSq6ccZupi5OBgEVCRaDzq DhIWFlCVeLvxGTOILSLALzHxIkQ5r4CNxO1ph9ggbD2JK4+3s4C0SgjISnw6bDaBkXsWkqGz kFRBxLUlli18zTwLqINZQEdi8kJGVGEI++P5I0wLGNlWMQoUpeYkVlroJRYU5KTqJefnbmIE BVVDYdoOxqblVocYBTgYlXh4O3hDgoRYE8uKK3MPMUpwMCuJ8OYtBArxpiRWVqUW5ccXleak Fh9ilOZgURLnvWUVFCQkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWgSTZeLglGpgzIlvZZ02ed6H5JNCCn9lW5+V5dd/ etF+0J4ne0Wk5+trhx89OSQYeDUi4rXN7PcuTI2ZGpZb64pnVc8sCJr5co1ti+Tx4FVPr0yM 28P/NqDYU+qPDofl4sji+El/1j3V1iko/p89Iegs/6o1tn/LT/JePH/j4G7Lvfv12VUq9+W6 Ho6c9SD/pBJLcUaioRZzUXEiAFlSGnAmAgAA Subject: [IPP] IPP Finishings 2.0: Presets? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0399059781==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0399059781== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Bf+2Okqzv4HGfTeuZ8xoLg)" --Boundary_(ID_Bf+2Okqzv4HGfTeuZ8xoLg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, Something I've been thinking about for IPP Finishings 2.0 is the notion of "presets" for finishings-col - there is already a "template-name" member attribute, but what about combining multiple finishings for standard post-processing (e.g., booklet + cover + saddlestitch + bale)? There is also the question of default values - right now we don't have a "finishings-col-database" attribute that provides the defaults for each template-name. But there is a finishings-col-ready attribute. Should we add a finishings-col-database attribute to list all of the defaults for each template-name? Or is finishings-col-ready sufficient? I think we should make it clear that the presence of the corresponding member attribute is what activates a particular finisher and not the use of a specific template-name - that will make it clear that vendor, user, or site-defined template-name values can apply one or more finishing options just by setting the corresponding member attributes (stitching, punching, folding, etc.) And by having finishings-col-ready/database there with all of the details, it will be possible for Client UI to visually simulate the results of finishing instructions in addition to the usual selection-by-name. Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_Bf+2Okqzv4HGfTeuZ8xoLg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

Something I've been thinking = about for IPP Finishings 2.0 is the notion of "presets" for = finishings-col - there is already a "template-name" member attribute, = but what about combining multiple finishings for standard = post-processing (e.g., booklet + cover + saddlestitch + = bale)?

There is also the question of default = values - right now we don't have a "finishings-col-database" attribute = that provides the defaults for each template-name.  But there is a = finishings-col-ready attribute. Should we add a finishings-col-database = attribute to list all of the defaults for each template-name? Or is = finishings-col-ready sufficient?

I think we = should make it clear that the presence of the corresponding member = attribute is what activates a particular finisher and not the use of a = specific template-name - that will make it clear that vendor, user, or = site-defined template-name values can apply one or more finishing = options just by setting the corresponding member attributes (stitching, = punching, folding, etc.)  And by having = finishings-col-ready/database there with all of the details, it will be = possible for Client UI to visually simulate the results of finishing = instructions in addition to the usual = selection-by-name.

Thoughts?

=
_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_Bf+2Okqzv4HGfTeuZ8xoLg)-- --===============0399059781== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0399059781==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 8 21:19:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A33C21F9396 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M15YP9nmEzMc for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E45011E8137 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9078724; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:28:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from g4t0014.houston.hp.com (g4t0014.houston.hp.com [15.201.24.17]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61F28668 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (g4w6310.houston.hp.com [16.210.26.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by g4t0014.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9128A2405B; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G9W3615.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.216.186.50) by G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.210.26.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.123.3; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:18:20 +0000 Received: from G9W0739.americas.hpqcorp.net ([169.254.10.226]) by G9W3615.americas.hpqcorp.net ([16.216.186.50]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:18:20 +0000 From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" To: Michael Sweet Thread-Topic: [IPP] IPP Finishings 2.0: Presets? Thread-Index: AQHOxIofpdtudDLGYk2t4XCAV6xgRpnrxBhJ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 04:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: <3E4BAF2E-3765-4CCA-853B-5EDE0C8F4537@hp.com> References: <46237E10-2CA6-4091-84F3-9861B0B561B9@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <46237E10-2CA6-4091-84F3-9861B0B561B9@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP Finishings 2.0: Presets? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Hi Mike, HP supports pursuing this idea. The printing ecosystem already has this now but it must be provided by the driver. I suppose an enterprising IPP Client could fabricate its own presets from job template attributes receives from the printer, but it would have to do this based on its own a priori information rather than simply receiving them from the printer. Whether finishings-col-ready is a good choice or not, I'm not prepared to say. Smith -- Smith Kennedy Hewlett-Packard Co. On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:54 PM, "Michael Sweet" > wrote: All, Something I've been thinking about for IPP Finishings 2.0 is the notion of "presets" for finishings-col - there is already a "template-name" member attribute, but what about combining multiple finishings for standard post-processing (e.g., booklet + cover + saddlestitch + bale)? There is also the question of default values - right now we don't have a "finishings-col-database" attribute that provides the defaults for each template-name. But there is a finishings-col-ready attribute. Should we add a finishings-col-database attribute to list all of the defaults for each template-name? Or is finishings-col-ready sufficient? I think we should make it clear that the presence of the corresponding member attribute is what activates a particular finisher and not the use of a specific template-name - that will make it clear that vendor, user, or site-defined template-name values can apply one or more finishing options just by setting the corresponding member attributes (stitching, punching, folding, etc.) And by having finishings-col-ready/database there with all of the details, it will be possible for Client UI to visually simulate the results of finishing instructions in addition to the usual selection-by-name. Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Thu Oct 10 13:20:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C0711E8183 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D0lLr6dYk-Yf for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206B911E80F9 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5616D8668; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74EC78541 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id k4so44277qaq.13 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kqjy1DiCD3LTZxe0Nl7jxRo0+67QGz9FNHUIdEe74/c=; b=ORdocreGF25fI9kYqEunv2U65aPEjYdEbTmms2nkD4iPgy/sIBzaOBd6pM4W/ua2o8 8zNQWYf+RR2rRzadE1pB1yOwZU/ZjsMwyxJ5fZ9SC19vqpCueEfEI1oIJXxwMXgDJpK1 pavOCO1E/pJfQX2nHRjvGqfMIbdC+/ODcVrRQlUuwd53paQUNoFDmwbanL1Zxumt8nBK 8if13ruqon89x6xgDdjN95EBQUCNbG2PsD4a5UKQqqU2AGROxDEbkgVcW30pEJ5R46ba afUnfwQYdLnzMCjafsZ5N3qKN35Hk9iRVRFu4hKySk5ie5uyywnIc0OdjLTlyNpuxjr8 w5VA== X-Received: by 10.229.75.9 with SMTP id w9mr25397648qcj.0.1381436386300; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:19:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.116.11 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:19:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pwg-announce@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Approved - IPP WG Charter (10 October 2013) X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1585564357==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1585564357== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133b96015d86a04e868b9b8 --001a1133b96015d86a04e868b9b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I'm pleased to announce that the PWG Steering Committee approved the revised IPP WG Charter to cover all current in-progress and planned future specifications for the IPP WG: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-charter-20131010.pdf Minor redlines from the previous stable draft are at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20131010-rev.pdf Cheers, - Ira (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a1133b96015d86a04e868b9b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I'm pleased to announce that the PWG S= teering Committee approved the
revised IPP WG Charter to cover all current in-progress and planned = future specifications for the IPP WG:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-chart= er-20131010.pdf

Minor redlines from the previous stable dr= aft are at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20131010-rev.pdf<= br>

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Ira M= cDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pr= inting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE= -ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434

--001a1133b96015d86a04e868b9b8-- --===============1585564357== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --===============1585564357==-- From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Thu Oct 10 19:22:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBD321F9A78 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vP6Jp9FnR2zI for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71DD21E8196 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CB98668; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:31:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E9048540 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 02:31:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay5.apple.com ([17.128.113.88]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MUH004O5FWEQUI1@mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807158-b7f806d000007bd8-c4-525760d13d8a Received: from [17.153.35.207] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.35.207]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay5.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 6A.CA.31704.2D067525; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Message-id: <52C660B8-9A73-4CC1-ABD5-7ADE79C20B9E@apple.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:22:08 -0400 To: "PWG Announcements Inc." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnKl8XvdyQniQwbdzEhbrWlczOzB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4+/5i6wFc1wqDnT8Ym1gXGPVxcjJISFgIvF10kZGCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgK9TBJt0x6xgSTYBNQkfk/qYwWxmQUSJG7uaGYGsYUFdCRubnwN1swrYCOxf0oP WA2LgKrE2oaPLCC2iICxxI72vWwQNXoSVx5vB4pzAC2Tlfh02GwCI/csJFNnIamCiGtLLFv4 GijOAWTrSExeyIgqDGF/PH+EaQEj2ypGgaLUnMRKU73EgoKcVL3k/NxNjKAgaiiM2MH4f5nV IUYBDkYlHl4LhvAgIdbEsuLK3EOMEhzMSiK89npAId6UxMqq1KL8+KLSnNTiQ4zSHCxK4rxZ lkApgfTEktTs1NSC1CKYLBMHp1QDo/7Cp/ySvJWJkvXnRSu91df+NvmcZ7L/8o+zF1q+lVZY h2QzfQ7POzz7kaaThuncwx6/BdT7wneJLfS3Sftwp31Gw4nur2yXI9yc/v7asfiyc/jZvHth U93N/zz5Ln1ul+aBfT6hCz8H73mg2iWXeFLSdqHzDWFF6+2+hcXvXjUd9L677/+FCiWW4oxE Qy3mouJEALIyP7EeAgAA Subject: [PWG-Announce] PWG Formal Vote: IPP FaxOut Service X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1250788485==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1250788485== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_irpzKMuW2hcBM2Qh58bReg)" --Boundary_(ID_irpzKMuW2hcBM2Qh58bReg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings: VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL! See voting instructions below. This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the IPP FaxOut Service specification, which is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130920.pdf The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippfaxout10.txt VOTING PERIOD: This Formal Vote will start Today, 10 October 2013 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday, 15 November 2013. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote. PWG Privacy Policy: Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors. HOW TO VOTE: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: IPP FaxOut Service Formal Vote--- Example: IPP FaxOut Service Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes Rules: (1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" vote into a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0. (2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any *technical* comments, per PWG Process/3.0. (5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval. WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'): msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions Editor) blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote). Notes: (1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. (2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_irpzKMuW2hcBM2Qh58bReg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Greetings:

VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL!  See = voting instructions below.

This email initiates the Formal = Approval vote by the PWG membership on the IPP FaxOut Service = specification, which is located at:

   ftp:= //ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130920.pdf

The = complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located = at:

   ftp://ftp.p= wg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippfaxout10.txt


VOTING PERIOD: =  This Formal Vote will start Today, 10 October 2013 and will end at = 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday, 15 November 2013.

Valid votes = are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), = Abstain.


Representatives from PWG member companies are = strongly encouraged to exercise their right to vote.

PWG = Privacy Policy:  Your vote is confidential and will not be = disclosed by PWG officers or document editors.


HOW TO = VOTE:

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line = format:

 IPP FaxOut Service Formal Vote-<company = name>-<voter's last = name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

Example:

 IPP FaxO= ut Service Formal Vote-Acme-McGee-Yes


Rules:

(1) = Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST = contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn = the "No" vote into a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT = be counted, per PWG Process/3.0.

(2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT = contain *editorial* comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" = vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(4) = Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any  *technical* comments, per = PWG Process/3.0.

(5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward = quorum, but not approval.


WHERE TO SEND YOUR = VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the following email = addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with = '@'):

msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair, = IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions = Editor)

blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, PWG = Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)

ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul = Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)


Please do NOT simply reply to this = note on PWG-Announce or the IPP WG list (to preserve the = confidentiality of your vote).


Notes:

(1) This Formal = Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and = the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality = agreement. The 2012 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of = these documents and the links are provided below.

(2) To be = eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy = of the 2012 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their = dues.

The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process = Version 3.0 is located at:

 http:/= /www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

The PWG = Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located = at:

 http:/= /www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf


_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_irpzKMuW2hcBM2Qh58bReg)-- --===============1250788485== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pwg-announce mailing list pwg-announce@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/pwg-announce --===============1250788485==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Oct 11 10:50:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B8521E81E9 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pqDOR04WTR5W for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD3421E81E4 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7BB8683; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:00:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from bware1.sdsamerica.net (bware1.sdsamerica.net [206.67.236.191]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC078423; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:00:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Ron Nevo To: "'cloud@pwg.org'" , "ipp@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: Join Conference Call (IPP & Cloud) Monday 14 OCT at 3PM EST Thread-Index: Ac7Gql9lF1FLTVNAQOWvIBxD5y9pIw== Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:50:29 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: none Subject: [IPP] Join Conference Call (IPP & Cloud) Monday 14 OCT at 3PM EST X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0913502387==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0913502387== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_C9E64282FA577A48998F30A3E89411EF022742SEAMBX2seasamsung_"; type="multipart/alternative" --_005_C9E64282FA577A48998F30A3E89411EF022742SEAMBX2seasamsung_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C9E64282FA577A48998F30A3E89411EF022742SEAMBX2seasamsung_" --_000_C9E64282FA577A48998F30A3E89411EF022742SEAMBX2seasamsung_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All There will be a Join Call IPP & Cloud conference call on Monday, 14 OCT at = 3PM EDT (Noon PDT). Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. PWG WebEx invites you to attend this online meeting. Topic: IPP/Cloud WG Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to no end date Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&UID=3D1= 183762542&PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&UID=3D1183762542= &PW=3DNYTM5NTNhNjUy&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". You can contact me at: msweet@apple.com To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook= ), click this link: https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?ED=3D152699422&UID=3D1183762542= &ICS=3DMI&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DAAAAAgN0HgWlP05sWLy7lRjCXMtc9FsW9s-XN= PklCRd8QoYu&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker (2) Review IPP F2F slides (3) Review Cloud F2F slides Thank You, [Description: Description: samsung] Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing Strategic Alliances, Solutions, MPS, Standards and Certifications Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging Samsung Electronics America, Inc. Enterprise Business Division 85 Challenger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660 P 201.329.6231 C 201.220.6348 rnevo@sea.samsung.com http://www.samsung.com/us/printersolutions/ [Print Plus Logo email version] --_000_C9E64282FA577A48998F30A3E89411EF022742SEAMBX2seasamsung_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All

 

There will be a Join Call IPP & Cloud conference= call on Monday, 14 OCT at 3PM EDT (Noon PDT).

 

  Call-in toll-f= ree number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.=

PWG WebEx invites you to attend this online meeting.=

 

Topic: IPP/Cloud WG

Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 = to no end date

Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-= 04:00)

Meeting Number: 682 763 393

Meeting Password: Printing123

 

 

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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!= )

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Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
(2) Review IPP F2F slides

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides

  

 

 

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3D"Description:

Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing

Strat= egic Alliances, Solutions, MPS, Standards and Certifications

Chair = IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging

Samsu= ng Electronics America, Inc.

Enter= prise Business Division

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85 Chall= enger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660

P 201.329.6231  = ; C 201.220.6348

rnevo@sea.samsung.com
http://www.samsung.com/us/printersolu= tions/

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1830306465==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1830306465== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CEC837.803F9490" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CEC837.803F9490 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01CEC837.803F9490" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01CEC837.803F9490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proposed slides for October face-to-face are at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/Cloud-WG-Meeting-Oct-2013.pdf. There is an update to the Cloud Model spec at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20131012.pdf Thanks, Bill Wagner From: Ron Nevo [mailto:rnevo@sea.samsung.com] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:50 PM To: 'cloud@pwg.org'; ipp@pwg.org Cc: 'William A Wagner'; 'Michael Sweet'; Ira McDonald Subject: Join Conference Call (IPP & Cloud) Monday 14 OCT at 3PM EST Hi All There will be a Join Call IPP & Cloud conference call on Monday, 14 OCT at 3PM EDT (Noon PDT). Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request. PWG WebEx invites you to attend this online meeting. 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Proposed slides for October face-to-face are = at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/slides/Cloud-WG-Meeting-Oct-2013.pdf= .

There is an update to the Cloud Model spec at: = ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudimagingmodel10-20131012= .pdf

Thanks,

Bill = Wagner

 

From:= = Ron Nevo [mailto:rnevo@sea.samsung.com]
Sent: Friday, October = 11, 2013 1:50 PM
To: 'cloud@pwg.org'; = ipp@pwg.org
Cc: 'William A Wagner'; 'Michael Sweet'; Ira = McDonald
Subject: Join Conference Call (IPP & Cloud) = Monday 14 OCT at 3PM EST

 

Hi All

 

There will = be a Join Call IPP & Cloud conference call on Monday, 14 OCT at 3PM = EDT (Noon PDT).

 

  Call-in toll-free number = (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: = *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the = Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

PWG WebEx invites you to attend this online meeting. =

 

Topic: IPP/Cloud WG

Date: Every Monday, from Monday, September 23, 2013 to = no end date

Time: 3:00 pm, Eastern = Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)

Meeting Number: 682 763 393

Meeting Password: Printing123

 

 

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3. If a password is required, enter = the meeting password: Printing123

4. = Click "Join".

 

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You can = contact me at:

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Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy = and Minute Taker
(2) Review IPP F2F slides

(3) Review Cloud F2F slides

  

 

 

Thank = You,

 

3D"Description:

Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | = Product Marketing

Strategic Alliances, Solutions, = MPS, Standards and Certifications

Chair = IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud Imaging

Samsung = Electronics America, Inc.

Enterprise Business = Division

 

85 = Challenger Road | Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660

P 201.329.6231   C = 201.220.6348

rnevo@sea.samsung.com
http://www.samsung.com/us/printe= rsolutions/

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--===============1830306465==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Oct 14 17:00:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E1821F9FED for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sN9Tg-HGQ4Jq for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A77221F9FD7 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DE78476; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0978693098==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0978693098== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HlH7VwkcjarSLz/iF+4PRQ)" --Boundary_(ID_HlH7VwkcjarSLz/iF+4PRQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have posted an updated interim draft of the IPP Everywhere Self-Certification Manual to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20131014.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20131014.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeveselfcert10-20131014-rev.pdf For review at next week's F2F meeting. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_HlH7VwkcjarSLz/iF+4PRQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable All,

I have posted an updated = interim draft of the IPP Everywhere Self-Certification Manual = to:


For review at next week's F2F = meeting.

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Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_HlH7VwkcjarSLz/iF+4PRQ)-- --===============0978693098== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0978693098==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Oct 15 14:44:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483AD21F9DF3 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7gmsyPgbNdM for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617B921F9C68 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1A78668; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:54:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5409380A5 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ar20so6824125iec.28 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bYK9UplcEUar236uB5hnOGz9vKEcDqrMFEWVU/WXj+w=; b=cq/HwUBysQsr/cDJzS+IMv6s5pljJoqnOkLQWPB1yksLtEWbe0E8t4nUnprEDMZzFJ ftsqxjao0WnTMqmUMQi2tgsW439CYpzlZOHXXWMPcsTr98WwwJGepdZbD58SudhjWayo BrW11jQyc1rzphysnW6oogw6tPbVlea9b2/ELzwYacIcWRmELhTzYO1AolSNmtWyVqLT kIyS/0lGFt2zAr727poZTouY6hgiuMs+lxzM6Qq03N5HS6e5hBb9FUYQjM+wcciA1Sc3 PYXex8K1WHNndxMW8UWGgh2RtAgBrpK0QdwBFFENCnHM235fTTl47Goyc4qcKQ0t4AFG iZ+g== X-Received: by 10.50.61.35 with SMTP id m3mr16825589igr.56.1381873460571; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.96.135 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:44:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:44:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Outline of IPP System Control Service spec X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1100751846==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1100751846== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134b62cbdf43f04e8ce7cb4 --001a1134b62cbdf43f04e8ce7cb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mike, For IPP SCS slides for next week: 1. Introduction - relationship of System object and System Control Service to IPP Printer - synopsis of rationale 2. Terminology - conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc. 3. Requirements - rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements 4. IPP System Model - System Object - Subunit Object - Printer Object - Job Object - Subscription Object - etc. 5. System Object - configuration (subunits) - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) -- power calendar/events ??? - status (state, health, alerts, configured services/resources, counters, etc.) -- power log/meters ??? 6. System Control Service - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) - status (state, alerts, etc.) 7. System Control Service Operations - GetSystemElements - ListAllServices - PauseAllServices - RestartAllServices ??? - ResumeAllServices - SetSystemElements - ShutdownAllServices ??? - StartupAllServices ??? 8. Conformance Requirements - IPP Client - IPP Printer 9. Internationalization Considerations 10. Security Considerations 11. IANA Considerations 12. References 13. Authors' Addresses 14. Change History Comments? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a1134b62cbdf43f04e8ce7cb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,

For IPP SCS slid= es for next week:

1. Introduction
- relationship of System object= and System Control Service to IPP Printer
- synopsis of rationale
2.= Terminology
- conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc.
3. Requirements
- ratio= nale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements
4. IPP System Model- System Object
- Subunit Object
- Printer Object
- Job Object - Subscription Object
- etc.
5. System Object
- configuration (sub= units)
- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) -- power calendar/events ???
- status (state, health, alerts, configure= d services/resources, counters, etc.)
-- power log/meters ???
6. System Control Service
- description (char= set, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)
- status (state, alerts, etc.= )
7. System Control Service Operations
- GetSystemElements
- ListA= llServices
- PauseAllServices
- RestartAllServices ???
- ResumeAllServices
- = SetSystemElements
- ShutdownAllServices ???
- StartupAllServices ???<= br>8. Conformance Requirements
- IPP Client
- IPP Printer
9. Inter= nationalization Considerations
10. Security Considerations
11. IANA Considerations
12. References13. Authors' Addresses
14. Change History

Comments?
Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair -= Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working= Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobilit= y Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434

--001a1134b62cbdf43f04e8ce7cb4-- --===============1100751846== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1100751846==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Oct 16 07:25:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A40221F9697 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u8ea4C5ah1yX for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468FB11E82AB for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED364840E; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:35:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02552840E for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id u16so1435067iet.32 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0IN1TtIS2+BwGRLZY6O4yXPrqhAB3KZROljbnjNiu34=; b=oghzlUN1Bg+0ZyKSbRPA+4rUR+FChD/687Fzg3ZGuvPdyixBZPFI/Fc6Ct1VicAhL/ 4vIHZcgS2zfIrx4QC4yoD95c/oVBm4dyMdlmJ5DbFz+UReA7//YmbPYtOqutNnSDJ6hE /V0WqMsdXHJYjV4D7Mue4b7AdzYbu4/9dj4KfMQAn4bQltkLHYf9KkqGzwZSxcDzJw+F LnIlpXZDA1NTjXH3HOQ0kSI6MHbteYsXDxE2aDVUGczox4kF++41XysdDHfvwxQ9vi3D 5kpQ3NfKxnakxde45/9b7hSqEPF+z0u8F9c+v5EICrIPmE+dRFp6s7sSa95OWIY2Vhyr s8uA== X-Received: by 10.43.60.139 with SMTP id ws11mr2055340icb.12.1381933532826; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.96.135 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 10:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: Re: [IPP] Outline of IPP System Control Service spec X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1749394965==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1749394965== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a894653d80604e8dc7940 --bcaec51a894653d80604e8dc7940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Several corrections: (1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style) (2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because of writes) Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi Mike, > > For IPP SCS slides for next week: > > 1. Introduction > - relationship of System object and System Control Service to IPP Printer > - synopsis of rationale > 2. Terminology > - conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc. > 3. Requirements > - rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements > 4. IPP System Model > - System Object > - Subunit Object > - Printer Object > - Job Object > - Subscription Object > - etc. > 5. System Object > - configuration (subunits) > - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) > -- power calendar/events ??? > - status (state, health, alerts, configured services/resources, counters, > etc.) > -- power log/meters ??? > 6. System Control Service > - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) > - status (state, alerts, etc.) > 7. System Control Service Operations > - GetSystemElements > - ListAllServices > - PauseAllServices > - RestartAllServices ??? > - ResumeAllServices > - SetSystemElements > - ShutdownAllServices ??? > - StartupAllServices ??? > 8. Conformance Requirements > - IPP Client > - IPP Printer > 9. Internationalization Considerations > 10. Security Considerations > 11. IANA Considerations > 12. References > 13. Authors' Addresses > 14. Change History > > Comments? > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > --bcaec51a894653d80604e8dc7940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Several corrections:<= br>
(1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style= )
(2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because= of writes)

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE= -ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McD= onald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mike,

For IPP SCS slid= es for next week:

1. Introduction
- relationship of System object= and System Control Service to IPP Printer
- synopsis of rationale
2. Terminology
- conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc.
3. Requirements
- ratio= nale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements
4. IPP System Model- System Object
- Subunit Object
- Printer Object
- Job Object - Subscription Object
- etc.
5. System Object
- configuration (sub= units)
- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) -- power calendar/events ???
- status (state, health, alerts, configure= d services/resources, counters, etc.)
-- power log/meters ???
6. System Control Service
- description (char= set, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)
- status (state, alerts, etc.= )
7. System Control Service Operations
- GetSystemElements
- ListA= llServices
- PauseAllServices
- RestartAllServices ???
- ResumeAllServices
- = SetSystemElements
- ShutdownAllServices ???
- StartupAllServices ???<= br>8. Conformance Requirements
- IPP Client
- IPP Printer
9. Inter= nationalization Considerations
10. Security Considerations
11. IANA Considerations
12. References13. Authors' Addresses
14. Change History

Comments?
Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair -= Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working= Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobilit= y Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


--bcaec51a894653d80604e8dc7940-- --===============1749394965== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1749394965==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Oct 16 08:26:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D342921F9AD2 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:26:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yX7AHvjkT297 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C1A21F9C40 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33148840E; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:35:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from www.msweet.org (www.msweet.org [173.255.209.91]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807798341 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from da0704a-dhcp108.apple.com (unknown [17.197.43.108]) by www.msweet.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 462A9C12C; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1814\)) From: Michael Sweet In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:25:43 -0700 Message-Id: <37CB3615-DC52-4980-82F5-29598B4013D2@msweet.org> References: To: Ira Mcdonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1814) Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Outline of IPP System Control Service spec X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1780534568==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1780534568== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_868DC85B-68AA-4411-8055-CA57F2FF5CC4" --Apple-Mail=_868DC85B-68AA-4411-8055-CA57F2FF5CC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ira, While we are on the topic of renaming, in the spirit of IPP we should be = calling everything a Printer, not a Service. And instead of = ListAllServices/Printers it should be Get-Printers to match Get-Jobs, = Get-Documents, Get-Subscriptions, and Get-Notifications. Operations for 1.0 spec: - Disable-Printers - Enable-Printers - Get-Printers - Get-System-Attributes - Pause-Printers - Pause-Printers-After-Current-Job - Restart-Printers - Resume-Printers - Shutdown-Printer (extend RFC 3998) - Shutdown-Printers - Startup-Printers Additional operations for 2.0 spec: - Delete-Printer - Get-Security-Attributes - Request-Security-Attributes - Restart-Printer (extend RFC 3998) - Set-System-Attributes - Startup-Printer (extend RFC 3998) Thoughts? On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Several corrections: >=20 > (1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style) > (2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because of = writes) >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > Hi Mike, >=20 > For IPP SCS slides for next week: >=20 > 1. Introduction > - relationship of System object and System Control Service to IPP = Printer > - synopsis of rationale > 2. Terminology > - conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc. > 3. Requirements > - rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements > 4. IPP System Model > - System Object > - Subunit Object > - Printer Object > - Job Object > - Subscription Object > - etc. > 5. System Object > - configuration (subunits) > - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)=20 > -- power calendar/events ??? > - status (state, health, alerts, configured services/resources, = counters, etc.) > -- power log/meters ??? > 6. System Control Service > - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) > - status (state, alerts, etc.) > 7. System Control Service Operations > - GetSystemElements > - ListAllServices > - PauseAllServices > - RestartAllServices ??? > - ResumeAllServices > - SetSystemElements > - ShutdownAllServices ??? > - StartupAllServices ??? > 8. Conformance Requirements > - IPP Client > - IPP Printer > 9. Internationalization Considerations > 10. Security Considerations > 11. IANA Considerations > 12. References > 13. Authors' Addresses > 14. Change History >=20 > Comments? >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_868DC85B-68AA-4411-8055-CA57F2FF5CC4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Ira,

While we are on the topic of = renaming, in the spirit of IPP we should be calling everything a = Printer, not a Service.  And instead of ListAllServices/Printers it = should be Get-Printers to match Get-Jobs, Get-Documents, = Get-Subscriptions, and = Get-Notifications.

Operations for 1.0 = spec:

- Disable-Printers
- = Enable-Printers
- Get-Printers
- Get-System-Attributes
- = Pause-Printers
- Pause-Printers-After-Current-Job
- = Restart-Printers
- Resume-Printers
- Shutdown-Printer (extend = RFC 3998)
- Shutdown-Printers
- = Startup-Printers

Additional operations for = 2.0 spec:

- Delete-Printer
- = Get-Security-Attributes
- = Request-Security-Attributes
- Restart-Printer (extend RFC = 3998)
- Set-System-Attributes
- Startup-Printer (extend = RFC = 3998)

Thoughts?


On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi,

Several = corrections:

(1) Rename GetSystemElements to = GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style)
(2) Delete SetSystemElements = (out-of-scope for version 1 because of writes)

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / = Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing = WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF = Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North = Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:= blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira = McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hi Mike,

For IPP SCS = slides for next week:

1. Introduction
- relationship of System = object and System Control Service to IPP Printer
- synopsis of = rationale
2. Terminology
- conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc.
3. Requirements
- = rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements
4. IPP System = Model
- System Object
- Subunit Object
- Printer Object
- = Job Object
- Subscription Object
- etc.
5. System Object
- configuration = (subunits)
- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, = etc.)
-- power calendar/events ???
- status (state, health, = alerts, configured services/resources, counters, etc.)
-- power log/meters ???
6. System Control Service
- description = (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)
- status (state, = alerts, etc.)
7. System Control Service Operations
- = GetSystemElements
- ListAllServices
- PauseAllServices
- RestartAllServices ???
- = ResumeAllServices
- SetSystemElements
- ShutdownAllServices = ???
- StartupAllServices ???
8. Conformance Requirements
- IPP = Client
- IPP Printer
9. Internationalization Considerations
10. Security Considerations
11. IANA Considerations
12. = References
13. Authors' Addresses
14. Change = History

Comments?

Cheers,
- = Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working = Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP = & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:= blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  = Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


_______________________________________________
ipp mailing = list
ipp@pwg.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman= /listinfo/ipp

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But this locks us in forever to only output services (like FaxOut), right? The IPP URI scheme (and IPPS URI scheme) allow URIs to reference any object (not just IPP Printer), e.g., Subscription. So I think we ought to at least briefly discuss this (Service-->Printer) closing the future off at the F2F, before finalizing. I'm thinking about modelling IPP attributes for ConfiguredPrinters and ConfiguredResources (in the System object) and some of the other complex attributes (presumably they'll become collections?). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > While we are on the topic of renaming, in the spirit of IPP we should be > calling everything a Printer, not a Service. And instead of > ListAllServices/Printers it should be Get-Printers to match Get-Jobs, > Get-Documents, Get-Subscriptions, and Get-Notifications. > > Operations for 1.0 spec: > > - Disable-Printers > - Enable-Printers > - Get-Printers > - Get-System-Attributes > - Pause-Printers > - Pause-Printers-After-Current-Job > - Restart-Printers > - Resume-Printers > - Shutdown-Printer (extend RFC 3998) > - Shutdown-Printers > - Startup-Printers > > Additional operations for 2.0 spec: > > - Delete-Printer > - Get-Security-Attributes > - Request-Security-Attributes > - Restart-Printer (extend RFC 3998) > - Set-System-Attributes > - Startup-Printer (extend RFC 3998) > > Thoughts? > > > On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi, > > Several corrections: > > (1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style) > (2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because of writes) > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> For IPP SCS slides for next week: >> >> 1. Introduction >> - relationship of System object and System Control Service to IPP Printer >> - synopsis of rationale >> 2. Terminology >> - conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc. >> 3. Requirements >> - rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements >> 4. IPP System Model >> - System Object >> - Subunit Object >> - Printer Object >> - Job Object >> - Subscription Object >> - etc. >> 5. System Object >> - configuration (subunits) >> - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) >> -- power calendar/events ??? >> - status (state, health, alerts, configured services/resources, counters, >> etc.) >> -- power log/meters ??? >> 6. System Control Service >> - description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) >> - status (state, alerts, etc.) >> 7. System Control Service Operations >> - GetSystemElements >> - ListAllServices >> - PauseAllServices >> - RestartAllServices ??? >> - ResumeAllServices >> - SetSystemElements >> - ShutdownAllServices ??? >> - StartupAllServices ??? >> 8. Conformance Requirements >> - IPP Client >> - IPP Printer >> 9. Internationalization Considerations >> 10. Security Considerations >> 11. IANA Considerations >> 12. References >> 13. Authors' Addresses >> 14. Change History >> >> Comments? >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > --047d7bd6b2b41d7d7404e8e45c7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = Mike,

Agreed - Service(s) --> Printer(s) in IPP.

But this locks us in forever to only output services (like FaxOut), righ= t?

The IPP URI scheme (and IPPS URI scheme) allow URIs to reference = any
object (not just IPP Printer), e.g., Subscription.

So I think we ought to at least briefly discuss this (Service-->Printe= r)
closing the future off at the F2F, before finalizing.

I&= #39;m thinking about modelling IPP attributes for ConfiguredPrinters and
ConfiguredResources (in the System object) and some of the other
complex attributes (presumably they'll become collections?).
<= br>
Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair -= Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP= WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded= Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites= .google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://si= tes.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 = 734-944-0094
Summer=A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2= 434



On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Michae= l Sweet <msweet@msweet.org> wrote:
Ira,

While we are on= the topic of renaming, in the spirit of IPP we should be calling everythin= g a Printer, not a Service. =A0And instead of ListAllServices/Printers it s= hould be Get-Printers to match Get-Jobs, Get-Documents, Get-Subscriptions, = and Get-Notifications.

Operations for 1.0 spec:

- Dis= able-Printers
- Enable-Printers
- Get-Printers
- Get= -System-Attributes
- Pause-Printers
- Pause-Printers-After-Cur= rent-Job
- Restart-Printers
- Resume-Printers
- Shutdown-Printer (extend = RFC 3998)
- Shutdown-Printers
- Startup-Printers

<= /div>
Additional operations for 2.0 spec:

- Delete-Printer
- Get-Security-Attributes
- Request-Se= curity-Attributes
- Restart-Printer (extend RFC 3998)
- Set-= System-Attributes
- Startup-Printer (extend RFC 3998)

Thoughts?

On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

Hi,

Several corrections:
(1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style)
=
(2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because of writes)=

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE= -ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McD= onald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mike,

For IPP SCS slid= es for next week:

1. Introduction
- relationship of System object= and System Control Service to IPP Printer
- synopsis of rationale
2. Terminology
- conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc.
3. Requirements
- ratio= nale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements
4. IPP System Model- System Object
- Subunit Object
- Printer Object
- Job Object - Subscription Object
- etc.
5. System Object
- configuration (sub= units)
- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) -- power calendar/events ???
- status (state, health, alerts, configure= d services/resources, counters, etc.)
-- power log/meters ???
6. System Control Service
- description (char= set, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)
- status (state, alerts, etc.= )
7. System Control Service Operations
- GetSystemElements
- ListA= llServices
- PauseAllServices
- RestartAllServices ???
- ResumeAllServices
- = SetSystemElements
- ShutdownAllServices ???
- StartupAllServices ???<= br>8. Conformance Requirements
- IPP Client
- IPP Printer
9. Inter= nationalization Considerations
10. Security Considerations
11. IANA Considerations
12. References13. Authors' Addresses
14. Change History

Comments?
Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Fou= ndation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
= Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=A0= PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434


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I don't think so - it just means that we start calling scanners and other imaging services "Printers" since the protocol started life to support printing. Alternately we go back and define aliases for the original print-centric operation codes to use Service instead of Printer, but then we also would want to rename printer-xxx attributes to service-xxx which would impact the on-the-wire encoding (whereas adding a name that has the same operation code doesn't...) > The IPP URI scheme (and IPPS URI scheme) allow URIs to reference any > object (not just IPP Printer), e.g., Subscription. Sure. > So I think we ought to at least briefly discuss this (Service-->Printer) > closing the future off at the F2F, before finalizing. Absolutely, and something we should be discuss during our SCS time slot. > I'm thinking about modelling IPP attributes for ConfiguredPrinters and > ConfiguredResources (in the System object) and some of the other > complex attributes (presumably they'll become collections?). That would be my preference, yes. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_BThZuGxPo9Nl5Fay8Mg4Iw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ira,

On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:49 = PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hi = Mike,

Agreed - Service(s) --> Printer(s) in = IPP.

But this locks us in forever to only output services = (like FaxOut), = right?

I don't think so - it just means that we start = calling scanners and other imaging services "Printers" since the = protocol started life to support = printing.

Alternately we go back and define = aliases for the original print-centric operation codes to use Service = instead of Printer, but then we also would want to rename printer-xxx = attributes to service-xxx which would impact the on-the-wire encoding = (whereas adding a name that has the same operation code = doesn't...)

The IPP URI scheme = (and IPPS URI scheme) allow URIs to reference any
object (not = just IPP Printer), e.g., = Subscription.

Sure.

So I think we ought to at = least briefly discuss this (Service-->Printer)
closing the future off at the F2F, before = finalizing.

<= /div>Absolutely, and something we should be discuss during our SCS time = slot.

I'm thinking about modelling IPP = attributes for ConfiguredPrinters and
ConfiguredResources (in = the System object) and some of the other
complex attributes (presumably they'll become = collections?).

That would be my preference, yes.

_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

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if yes,Contact fredrickplc@q= q.com now for more details. --===============1991804928== Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Mail message body Are you in any kind of financial difficulties?= if yes,Contact fredrickplc@qq.com now for more details. --===============1991804928==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sat Oct 19 17:37:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC3D11E8307 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0FQIlYGmgo3i for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6274711E8309 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3E68476; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:47:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from ore.jhcloos.com (ore.jhcloos.com [198.147.23.85]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12F7C8430 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id F1B731E308; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:37:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore13; t=1382229447; bh=tGcjxV66prLIphiOfnVQW34Ldo6YvQxiAmtQvb/7ea0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=PMMIiKVmBBzt7H3BhwWHQAknLmMkSaQdPT+leTwtqsA2uoNTpnkM8IMavrWtBKRUp Y5yLhmIakWCzzwWMx97j3G9xqr8WQHl0lzGFzFlUcKMvMupG7CQ+taGKNQTdjPu114 xcuRZYD12GLU6+o+DntgUiWJHWH/Ouv11py1KoWnOEA== Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id BA6DF6001E; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:36:41 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos To: ipp@pwg.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2013 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 20:36:41 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 25 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Hashcash: 1:28:131020:ipp@pwg.org::gsFi2Woou2ZYv4HW:000003zF0L Subject: [IPP] mail failures X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org I just noticed that I hadn't been getting any mail for the pwg lists for a while. The reason is likely also to block mail to other subscribers. The issue is that www.pwg.org started sending mail over ipv6, but its v6 address does not have a PTR in ip6.arpa. The linode management interface should permit whoever admins that node to specify the PTR. Else, linode should accept a ticket to do so. Once that is done, if that PTR specified www.pwg.org, it would be a good idea to add and AAAA record, too. Alternatively, modify the postfix config on that box and set: smtp_address_preference = ipv4 to tell it not to send mail via ipv6. One of the member corps (with an hellenic naming scheme) also has this problem with their main outgoing smtp box. I don't know where best to report that, so that it would get addressed. Any suggestions?) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Oct 23 07:48:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FB911E83B0 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0iPTRHuxSd91 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FB211E842E for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5118849F; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: IPP@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR004.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr004.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.13]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 038D18483 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from usa7109ht004.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.30]) by USA7109MR004.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Oct 2013 09:47:56 -0500 Received: from USA7109MB004.na.xerox.net ([169.254.4.132]) by USA7109HT004.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.30]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:47:54 -0500 From: "Zehler, Peter" To: "IPP@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: Pete Zehler is volunteering to be the editor of an IPP Scan specification Thread-Index: Ac7P/tsSl1Jy+nC/TnW71iwzh9hM3g== Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:47:53 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [13.41.230.93] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [IPP] Pete Zehler is volunteering to be the editor of an IPP Scan specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1408670604==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1408670604== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3481B2CUSA7109MB004naxer_" --_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3481B2CUSA7109MB004naxer_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. 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Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.= Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

 

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Copyright 2013 Email Support Team From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Oct 24 06:32:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC2A11E8315 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k5mZR2Cyd2lD for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4FE11E821D for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AD6861F; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:42:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CA3185F4 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:42:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay7.apple.com ([17.128.113.101]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MV600C0FDK4Q5I1@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807165-b7fcd6d000000f88-8b-526921532680 Received: from [17.153.35.45] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.35.45]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id BC.40.03976.45129625; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:32:02 -0700 To: ipp@pwg.org Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1816) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrLJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFNZVzdUMTPI4GI3j8WxfS9ZLI58i3Vg 8th68gebx7zF05kCmKK4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Mha2VxesZqlY+/IPUwPjceYuRk4OCQETiTuH ZkLZYhIX7q1n62Lk4hAS6GaSeLPzOViCTUBN4vekPlYQm1lAS+LGv5dMELa2xLKFr8FqWARU JWa/+goWFxZQkTiw4CZYvYgAv8TEixC9vAI2EldmHmSDsPUkzk34yASxWFZi4t8TjBMYeWYh WTELyYpZSFoWMDKvYhQoSs1JrDTXSywoyEnVS87P3cQICpSGwtQdjI3LrQ4xCnAwKvHwanxI DxJiTSwrrsw9xCjBwawkwruDNTNIiDclsbIqtSg/vqg0J7X4EKM0B4uSOK/nn7QgIYH0xJLU 7NTUgtQimCwTB6dUA2Or/luvzFIFpTPfT65/IrAvI23lGf/c9qcJoUtOx9w8OPF8afzJtLPP F1zJuKYXN6HuL+/61P0GfMI+GQHbp8VtmLbu9+bCPCMbY0+DeokrgpnLpvKx9i55kJTh0/nn zWp942p/WY+7vg/+TZRhOvHc9HXJh5PdUkEbpuV5fm58O+V7/tmXsk5KLMUZiYZazEXFiQAu TkSdEAIAAA== Subject: [IPP] Minutes posted from the F2F X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted the minutes from the IPP WG sessions at this week's face-to-face to: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20131022.pdf Our next conference call is November 2, 2013 at 3pm ET. Action items: - Mike/Ira to ask Microsoft for WS-Discovery test script - Mike to ask Justin about WS-Discovery probe response example - Ira to ask OpenPrinting about writing WS-Discovery tool _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Oct 24 09:53:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A643611E8360 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:53:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.567 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.567 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1, TRACKER_ID=2.003] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iwyn0Ym+TWHY for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A44611E82DA for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7715B84E3; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:44:76:96:59:227]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24C18483 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h1261m00417dt5G5C4sY47; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:52:32 +0000 Received: from TCSLaptop2010 ([24.34.47.110]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h4sX1m0172NeFBL3Z4sXUT; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:52:32 +0000 From: "Paul Tykodi" To: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:52:25 -0400 Organization: Tykodi Consulting Services LLC Message-ID: <004101ced0d9$6ab72070$40256150$@tykodi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac7Q18+JWjuXxwPySm6hGJMhknaZRw== Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1382633552; bh=XclPyr/KvIVUs56yEEhItEAHODprS7fWjddIx5YxIOk=; h=Received:Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oAYThnA9BSCG0jIbtlrMmOxcy/lEwQq2aFuwU63f0L6C9Bz9Ja60UDrHthz35MdRr TSmgE4uWZNMyKKO1YIl211N+1K/nZVzqmQdfnN7J6yYdFu53TbqiZ5d08tEm1M/jj/ Vz39SRzwR3DSTrGbUi7XroJL7bD2BbIuWoPTFzLEjGmsSi6sOpgTy7lan4bZRmP6wB XSXZyPvMHgdheZ5BivbzuK6jQnbhgRwm92y51x9JjeBT88iQAIXjVB4bhnD/rHP++3 i9/Msk7FH9rtb31hU6mvgXNFxmRJEmNKQA5BYWHGzg5pMh9JMflXTjJmU7J/6LduYP CU95YMKyBcT0A== Subject: [IPP] Does IPP Self-Certification Need Job Ticket Tests? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ptykodi@tykodi.com List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1752805335==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1752805335== Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CED0B7.E3ABE910" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CED0B7.E3ABE910 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0043_01CED0B7.E3ABE910" ------=_NextPart_001_0043_01CED0B7.E3ABE910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I followed up on a question I had about job ticketing and PCLm with a representative from the Mopria Alliance. As I understood the Mopria Alliance presentation from Tuesday, the PCLm format is effectively a streamable PDF format. My job ticket related question was how did the Mopria Alliance expect a printer consuming the PCLm data stream to know it should change input tray while the PCLm data stream was being internally processed? Their IPP Everywhere based answer was that when a printing device begins to receive PCLm information coming from a Mopria Alliance client via IPP Everywhere, the information about input tray changes will be stored in the IPP job template attributes. Does this mean we should potentially consider building an IPP self-certification test that includes IPP override information in the job template attributes specifying some form of change (example - a different media size) so that IPP printers can test their ability to read and remember IPP specified job template attribute overrides for the life of a job? Thanks. 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Hi,

 

I followed= up on a question I had about job ticketing and PCLm with a representative = from the Mopria Alliance.

 

As I understood the Mopria Alliance presentatio= n from Tuesday, the PCLm format is effectively a streamable PDF format. My = job ticket related question was how did the Mopria Alliance expect a printe= r consuming the PCLm data stream to know it should change input tray while = the PCLm data stream was being internally processed?

 

Their IPP Everywhere= based answer was that when a printing device begins to receive PCLm inform= ation coming from a Mopria Alliance client via IPP Everywhere, the informat= ion about input tray changes will be stored in the IPP job template attribu= tes.

 

Does this mean we should potentially consider building an IPP self-c= ertification test that includes IPP override information in the job templat= e attributes specifying some form of change (example – a different me= dia size) so that IPP printers can test their ability to read and remember = IPP specified job template attribute overrides for the life of a job?<= /o:p>

 

Tha= nks.

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

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Co-Chair   = ;            - IEEE-= ISTO PWG IPP Working Group

Vice-Chair =             - IEEE-I= STO PWG Semantic Model Working Group

 

This e-mail message and any attachments= are confidential and may be privileged.

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Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25998A1B; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A189486F9 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay3.apple.com ([17.128.113.83]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MV600HPSU6WWO30@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807153-b7f246d000005e2f-7b-52697557d62e Received: from [17.153.105.81] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.105.81]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay3.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 6B.E8.24111.75579625; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <004101ced0d9$6ab72070$40256150$@tykodi.com> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:30:30 -0700 Message-id: <4D033A60-BDCF-4A5F-BFE1-1BC2E4E6903A@apple.com> References: <004101ced0d9$6ab72070$40256150$@tykodi.com> To: Paul Tykodi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrILMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiODMzUDeiNDPIYNsKHYtj+16yWBz5FmvR +c3agdlj68kfbB7zFk9n8th85TlLAHMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8a/WW1sBRu1K2Z2n2RpYHyt 2sXIwSEhYCLRtkWgi5ETyBSTuHBvPVsXIxeHkEAvk8TVE5tZQRLCAq4Ss04uYgGxeQX0JK48 3g5mMwskSJx4epsJxGYTUJP4PakPrJ5TwFLi8roPYDaLgKrE1mdHoer5JQ72fmCGmGMjcW3+ Y0YQW0jAQmLOxN9gtoiAisTVDevZIW6Tlfh02GwCI98sJJtnIdkMYWtLLFv4mhnCNpB42vmK FVNcX+LNuzlMCxjZVjEKFKXmJFYa6yUWFOSk6iXn525iBAVsQ2HwDsY/y6wOMQpwMCrx8Gp8 SA8SYk0sK67MPcQowcGsJMI7TS8zSIg3JbGyKrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjhvvgFQSiA9sSQ1 OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwOhiwMKyxDumzy45c4PS5OusCc9/Sm0+ftPIbcqaKREGB+cahX0X/GOU Ypy+7T53/j/Gtzab6m5zVLj4ZpinXti5QPIF18VfD2c0djveP61ue4btx7zUu7fO/RZRnM1m EfR83c742iks0f+Dg/e+36CoJXvkYELfgdO7a+Jt06+bn/51JY/zh4sSS3FGoqEWc1FxIgBP nFnyVAIAAA== Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] Does IPP Self-Certification Need Job Ticket Tests? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0656786527==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0656786527== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8W4JPg8+xDKNlB+4MQ9EZQ)" --Boundary_(ID_8W4JPg8+xDKNlB+4MQ9EZQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul, On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > ...=20 > Does this mean we should potentially consider building an IPP = self-certification test that includes IPP override information in the = job template attributes specifying some form of change (example =96 a = different media size) so that IPP printers can test their ability to = read and remember IPP specified job template attribute overrides for the = life of a job? One of the conclusions from the review of the current self-cert manual = is that we need to include some Job Template tests. The next update = will include some basic tests for copies, ipp-attribute-fidelity, media, = page-ranges, print-color-mode, and sides. I might also add a test for = finishings (maybe for staple?) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Boundary_(ID_8W4JPg8+xDKNlB+4MQ9EZQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Paul,

On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:52 AM, = Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com> = wrote:

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Does this mean we should potentially consider = building an IPP self-certification test that includes IPP override = information in the job template attributes specifying some form of = change (example =96 a different media size) so that IPP printers can = test their ability to read and remember IPP specified job template = attribute overrides for the life of a = job?


One of the = conclusions from the review of the current self-cert manual is that we = need to include some Job Template tests.  The next update will = include some basic tests for copies, ipp-attribute-fidelity, media, = page-ranges, print-color-mode, and sides. I might also add a test for = finishings (maybe for staple?)

_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

= --Boundary_(ID_8W4JPg8+xDKNlB+4MQ9EZQ)-- --===============0656786527== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============0656786527==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Oct 24 21:04:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0401011E8229 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.800, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8lzNYgRfsTF9 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E43A11E81EA for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AAF84FB; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 04:14:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-out.apple.com (honeycrisp.apple.com [17.151.62.51]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 938888499 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 04:14:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay4.apple.com ([17.128.113.87]) by mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MV700DF5HXZL4U0@mail-out.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807157-b7ff46d000001540-89-5269ed99a335 Received: from [17.153.23.85] (Unknown_Domain [17.153.23.85]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay4.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 00.BD.05440.A9DE9625; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:03:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:03:36 -0700 Message-id: <673AF65C-1608-4FAD-9FF2-B8721C43DA7E@apple.com> References: To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiOFM8VHf228wgg2mbGS2O7XvJYnHkW6wD k8fWkz/YPOYtns4UwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAlfFp0j/WgrkcFe/uLGdqYHzG1sXIySEhYCKx onM2I4QtJnHh3nqgOBeHkEA3k8TMbeuZQRLMAloSN/69ZAKxeQX0JK483s4CYgsD2Y/mLmUH sdkE1CR+T+pjBbE5BWwl5jb+BxvKIqAqcWj7cRaIOdoSyxa+ZoaYYyPx5uVHsLgQkD2v9yXY QSIC/BITL4LM4QA6SFbi02GzCYx8s5BcMQvJFbOQTF3AyLyKUaAoNSex0kQvsaAgJ1UvOT93 EyMosBoKw3cw/ltmdYhRgINRiYd3x6zMICHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivDWngUK8KYmVValF+fFF pTmpxYcYpTlYlMR5fUFSAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGxmUrZ0nMn/rhgnXXvpL5uzft4tN/ ptTqP/vKilsVVc8bFy9uPFG36PE+32ePld/78ET8iVDe2330v9LvF+VnbDe9+B6twHTyoekO oX8KxdOfPvu1bP9601KV9LrswOaLOt22MZkGU1ZtjDIKC3W5LMbStXlFT+up814/17NvvDTF e/sKr/vCRWpKLMUZiYZazEXFiQDqNZVbKAIAAA== Subject: Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from the F2F X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Oops, I of course meant the next conference call is November 4th, a Monday. Please don't call in on Saturday... :) On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > I have posted the minutes from the IPP WG sessions at this week's face-to-face to: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20131022.pdf > > Our next conference call is November 2, 2013 at 3pm ET. > > Action items: > > - Mike/Ira to ask Microsoft for WS-Discovery test script > - Mike to ask Justin about WS-Discovery probe response example > - Ira to ask OpenPrinting about writing WS-Discovery tool > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Sat Oct 26 14:39:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA13F11E8108 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id slZfQfxGfov6 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D304A11E8145 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F50C85BF; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:49:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 314828540 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id qd12so8605357ieb.19 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:39:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6EyU+/ZW8SAh3iev48qFssb4nrLfaAIz9PcivigB61Q=; b=Oe6hKK8dr0y3Zi/7z6oTL3sJCIPN1kiSDdVj4lBQsW9FlCO8j+YXJWyQxj7bE/RJqp LRul+kSCI1TQ3ZisYn33VF4jcqBg/ic7MtNBFLSyvP/iFg2HX5FQdu9CtvCLio3XzweA b5LSHAxfDob9M8n9PHgkvhJ9ZqiONiu2hJ5vnsu7nSNgKGBJJCnuuZWHE2o8AAIjFqNT sn37Ha7y38rWqvjdUAjR1T15nvqSwHW4oDphgjZA88mXmjc5bKOc2q465c/xZu+a+MAr 5pG5fV28lEG0nPvACWTaG5omlPAPxAEStScf5QN6KxEshc2vbilY8tyeZu2laKWEjbDs noyw== X-Received: by 10.43.57.79 with SMTP id wf15mr9429049icb.14.1382823549399; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:39:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.96.135 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pwg-announce@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [PWG-Announce] Posted PWG Plenary minutes (22 October 2013) X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1446067058==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1446067058== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51dd90f72fb4b04e9abb2bc --bcaec51dd90f72fb4b04e9abb2bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Minutes for this week's PWG Plenary and Mopria Alliance presentation are posted at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20131022.htm http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20131022.htm Cheers, - Ira (PWG Secretary) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --bcaec51dd90f72fb4b04e9abb2bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Minutes for this week's PWG Plenary and Mopria A= lliance presentation
are posted at:

=A0 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/p= ub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20131022.htm

=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/m= inutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20131022.htm

Cheers,
- Ira (PWG Secretary)


Ira McDon= ald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printi= ng WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-IST= O PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded System= s Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roo= f Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.= com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434

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