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boundary="===============0168166949079320518==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0168166949079320518== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dcd72394c2705459d0719 --001a114dcd72394c2705459d0719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have just posted another Interim draft of IPP System Service for review during the IPP WG call this week: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf - PDF with line numbers and redlines http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.docx - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines Summary: All pending edits from 14 December 2016 IPP WG. Cheers, - Ira ------------------------------- Change History: 8 January 2017 - Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per IPP WG review on 14 December 2016 - global =E2=80=93 accepted all changes per complete review at last IPP WG = call - global =E2=80=93 revised copyright year in headers, footers, and preface - global =E2=80=93 simplified text at start of all Request and Response ope= ration sections and moved all conformance requirements from Response section header to first paragraphs in operation definitions - global =E2=80=93 changed typo =E2=80=9CSubcription=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CS= ubscription=E2=80=9D - global =E2=80=93 changed =E2=80=9C[PWG5106.06]=E2=80=9D reference to =E2= =80=9C[PWG5108.03]=E2=80=9D in Resource operations - global =E2=80=93 deleted references in response attributes in section 6 - global =E2=80=93 revised section 6 IPP Operations to reorder clauses of a= ll operation definitions for consistency and to localize state changes to a single paragraph beginning =E2=80=9CIf accepted, the System MUST=E2=80=A6= =E2=80=9D - global =E2=80=93 checked for remaining references to obsolete RFC 3381 an= d RFC 3382 =E2=80=93 none - revised section 4.6 Resource Object to change =E2=80=9Cscope of allocatio= n=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Callocation scope=E2=80=9D - revised section 5.10 Job Status Attributes to change =E2=80=9Csupport the= the=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Csupport the=E2=80=9D - revised section 6.2.2.1 Create-Resource Request to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D request attribute - revised section 6.2.2.2 Create-Resource Response to add multi-valued =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D response attribute based on specified =E2= =80=9Cresource-type=E2=80=9D in request - revised section 6.2.6.1 Send-Resource-Data Request to add =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D - revised section 6.2.5 Install-Resource to change to =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9Cres= ource state=E2=80=9D is not 'available=E2=80=99 or the "resource-state-reasons" includes 'install-requested'=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CSystem MUST validate any= Resource signature supplied=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D - revised section 6.2.5 Install-Resource and section 6.2.6 Send-Resource-Data to also refer to US NIST [FIPS186-4] and ENISA Algorithms [ENISAALG] for signature validation - revised section 6.2.5.1 Install-Resource Request to add missing period - revised section 6.2.6 Send-Resource-Data to change to =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9Cr= esource-state=E2=80=9D is not =E2=80=98pending=E2=80=99=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CSystem SHOU= LD validate any Resource signature supplied=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D - revised section 7.1.11 resource-signature, to describe recommended support for signature override and forward reference section 12 Security Considerations for details of digital signature handling issues - revised section 12 Security Considerations with text imported from IPP 3D (and expanded) and new sections for Digital Signature Validation and Encrypted Resources (not just TLS data-in-transit) - revised section 14.1 Normative References to add references to US NIST [FIPS186-4] and ENISA Algorithms [ENISAALG] --001a114dcd72394c2705459d0719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I hav= e just posted another Interim draft of IPP System <= span>Service for
review during= the IPP = WG call this week:

=C2=A0 ht= tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf
=C2=A0 - PDF with line numbers and redlines
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.d= ocx
=C2=A0 - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines

Summary:=C2=A0 All= pending edits from 14 December 2016 IPP WG.

Cheers,
- Ira

-------------------------------
Change History:

8 January 2017

- Interim draft =E2=80=93 chan= ges per IPP WG review on 14 December 2016
- global =E2=80=93 accepted al= l changes per complete review at last IPP WG call
- global =E2=80=93 rev= ised copyright year in headers, footers, and preface
- global =E2=80=93 = simplified text at start of all Request and Response operation sections and= moved all conformance requirements from Response section header to first p= aragraphs in operation definitions
- global =E2=80=93 changed typo =E2= =80=9CSubcription=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CSubscription=E2=80=9D
- global = =E2=80=93 changed =E2=80=9C[PWG5106.06]=E2=80=9D reference to =E2=80=9C[PWG= 5108.03]=E2=80=9D in Resource operations
- global =E2=80=93 deleted refe= rences in response attributes in section 6
- global =E2=80=93 revised se= ction 6 IPP Operations to reorder clauses of all operation definitions for = consistency and to localize state changes to a single paragraph beginning = =E2=80=9CIf accepted, the System MUST=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
- global =E2=80= =93 checked for remaining references to obsolete RFC 3381 and RFC 3382 =E2= =80=93 none
- revised section 4.6 Resource Object to change =E2=80=9Csco= pe of allocation=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Callocation scope=E2=80=9D
- revise= d section 5.10 Job Status Attributes to change =E2=80=9Csupport the the=E2= =80=9D to =E2=80=9Csupport the=E2=80=9D
- revised section 6.2.2.1 Create= -Resource Request to delete =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D request attri= bute
- revised section 6.2.2.2 Create-Resource Response to add multi-val= ued =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D response attribute based on specified= =E2=80=9Cresource-type=E2=80=9D in request
- revised section 6.2.6.1 Se= nd-Resource-Data Request to add =E2=80=9Cresource-format=E2=80=9D
- revi= sed section 6.2.5 Install-Resource to change to =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9Cresource = state=E2=80=9D is not 'available=E2=80=99 or the "resource-state-r= easons" includes 'install-requested'=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D and =E2= =80=9CSystem MUST validate any Resource signature supplied=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =9D
- revised section 6.2.5 Install-Resource and section 6.2.6 Send-Reso= urce-Data to also refer to US NIST [FIPS186-4] and ENISA Algorithms [ENISAA= LG] for signature validation
- revised section 6.2.5.1 Install-Resource = Request to add missing period
- revised section 6.2.6 Send-Resource-Data= to change to =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9Cresource-state=E2=80=9D is not =E2=80=98pen= ding=E2=80=99=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CSystem SHOULD validate any Res= ource signature supplied=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D
- revised section 7.1.11 reso= urce-signature, to describe recommended support for signature override and = forward reference section 12 Security Considerations for details of digital= signature handling issues
- revised section 12 Security Considerations = with text imported from IPP 3D (and expanded) and new sections for Digital = Signature Validation and Encrypted Resources (not just TLS data-in-transit)=
- revised section 14.1 Normative References to add references to US NIS= T [FIPS186-4] and ENISA Algorithms [ENISAALG]

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We'll review IPP 3D last call comments and resolutions, IPP Finishings/2.1 LCRC (if available), and IPP System Service updates. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --94eb2c08673a3a7fae05459d174c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our fi= rst regular IPP WG call will be this Wednesday at
10am-12pm US Pac= ific / 1pm-3pm US Eastern.

We'll review IPP 3D last call c= omments and resolutions,
IPP Finishings/2.1 LCRC (if available), a= nd IPP System
Service updates.

Cheers,
- Ira=

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
= Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IP= P & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gm= ail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0= 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906= -494-2434

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, I have posted an updated stable (LCRC) draft of the IPP 3D Printing Extensions to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20170110.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20170110.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20170110-rev.pdf The only change in this version was to add the (missing) "max-materials-col-supported" Printer Description attribute to Table 5 (required Printer Description attributes). _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Jan 11 07:18:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDA01294BB for ; 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boundary="===============1403088362471550002==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1403088362471550002== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141ba3a507e4b0545d31ca8 --001a1141ba3a507e4b0545d31ca8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Wednesday 11 January 2017 at 10am-12pm US Pacific / 1pm-3pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above! ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Date: Wednesday, from 5 October 2016 to no end date Time: 1:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20161214.pdf -- IPP WG call on 12/14/16 (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith) * IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt -- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards -- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16 -- RFC2910bis & RFC 2911bis - IETF Approved as Proposed Standards! -- working w/ RFC Editor and IANA on RFC 8010 and RFC 8011 -- IETF AD, IANA, and authors have approved both final texts -- Schedule - IPP/1.1 RFCs published in Q1 2017 (4) Status of IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20161109-rev.pdf -- Stable draft -- PWG Last Call ended on 12/12/16 - quorum achieved! -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2017 (5) Review of IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20170110-rev.pdf - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ipp3d10.txt -- Stable draft -- PWG Last Call ended on 12/12/16 - quorum achieved! -- LCRC comments and responses on 12/13/16 -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2017 (6) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf -- Interim draft -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 12/14/16 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2017 (7) Next steps - IPP WG call on Wed 25 January 2017 at 1-3pm US Eastern -- LCRC review of IPP Finishings/2.1 - IPP WG call on Wed 8 February 2017 at 1-3pm US Eastern -- PWG F2F slides review Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a1141ba3a507e4b0545d31ca8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Wednesday 11 January 2017 at
10am-12pm US Pacific / 1pm-3pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - ins= tead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP=C2=A0 WG
Date: Wednesday, from 5 October 2016 to no end date
Time: 1:0= 0 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
-------------------------------------------------------
1. Go to https:/= /ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a5= 70ada91f3573
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

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For assistance
-------------------------------------------------------
1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw= g/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20161214.pdf
-- IPP WG call on 12/14/16

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
* IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt
-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards
-- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16
-- RFC2910bis & RFC 2911bis - IETF Approved as Proposed Standards!
-- working w/ RFC Editor and IANA on RFC 8010 and RFC 8011
--= IETF AD, IANA, and authors have approved both final texts
-- Schedule - IPP/1.1 RFCs published in Q1 2017

(4) Status of IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip= p/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20161109-rev.pdf
-- Stable draft
-- PWG Last Call ended on 12/12/16 - quorum achieved! -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2017

(5) Review of IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ipp3d10-20170110-rev.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.o= rg/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ipp3d10.txt
-- Stable draft
-- PWG La= st Call ended on 12/12/16 - quorum achieved!
-- LCRC comments= and responses on 12/13/16
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote in Q1 2017

(6) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 12/14/16
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2017

(7) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Wed 25 January 2017 at 1-3pm = US Eastern
-- LCRC review of IPP Finishings/2.1
- IPP WG call on Wed 8 February 2017 at <= span class=3D"gmail-m_-311787935929049866gmail-m_-2135793902464641429gmail-= m_7853469546180181312gmail-aQJ">1-3pm US Eastern
-- PWG F2F slides review

Cheers,
- Ira

=
Ira M= cDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IE= EE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing= Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof= Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google= .com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.goo= gle.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Pa= rk Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box= 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

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MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 11 Jan 2017 18:10:07.9473 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Stable LCRC Draft of IPP Finishings 2.1 posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7388531057485912205==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7388531057485912205== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2BB354FA-D90F-425F-8548-68EEE0712E8A"; 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http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170111.pdf Our next conference call will be on January 25, 2017 at 1pm ET. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Jan 12 04:49:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A71E129605 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:49:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from 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(protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Jan 2017 12:49:23.3848 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0281 Subject: [IPP] Updated text for IPP Finishings 2.1 Section 5.3 - review & wordsmithing help requested X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5416309907299673658==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5416309907299673658== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_832EA927-9697-44D9-8CAF-3DAE397C131C"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_832EA927-9697-44D9-8CAF-3DAE397C131C Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_132C27CB-2EBD-415B-AEAA-BDA95EA33022" --Apple-Mail=_132C27CB-2EBD-415B-AEAA-BDA95EA33022 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, Here's what I have so far in updating section 5.3, but I would = appreciate any editorial help on this: 5.3=C2=A0job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) <> The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the = number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, for = scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute = [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the Client generates the = copies in the Document content. If the Printer supports the "copies" Job = Template attribute for a given document format, the Printer SHOULD NOT = support the "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. = If both are supported for a given document format, when = "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 or omitted since = the purpose of the attribute is to specify that the document data = contains copies generated by the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" = implicitly overrides any "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The = value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of = Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single = copy. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template = attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this attribute with = multiple Document Jobs. To illustrate how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be = employed, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] = Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages = each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template = attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of = 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 = (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 = shows a graphical representation of this example. Feedback? Changes? Alternatives? Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_132C27CB-2EBD-415B-AEAA-BDA95EA33022 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Greetings,

Here's what I have so far in updating section 5.3, but I = would appreciate any editorial help on this:

5.3 job-pages-per-set = (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the number of input pages that = constitute a set for finishing processes, for scenarios where the Printer does not = support the "copies" attribute [RFC2911]<= !--[if gte mso 9]> = 08D0C9EA79F9BACE118C8200AA004BA90B02000000080000000800000052004600= 430032003900310031000000 for a given = document format, and the Client generates the copies in the Document content. If the Printer supports the "copies" Job Template attribute for a given document format, the Printer SHOULD = NOT support the "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. If both are supported for a given document format, when "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 or omitted since the purpose of the attribute is to specify that the = document data contains copies generated by the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" implicitly overrides any "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the = length of a single copy. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this = attribute with multiple Document Jobs.

To illustrate = how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be employed, if a Client = submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for printing = that contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client might = specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a value of 7, = a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a = "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer = staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical = representation of this example.


Feedback? Changes? = Alternatives?

Smith

/**
    Smith = Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software = - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / = Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1229902322056124322==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1229902322056124322== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F6CD5796-1C0B-48C7-9A11-7E099F8AA0BA"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_F6CD5796-1C0B-48C7-9A11-7E099F8AA0BA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I remember back when I was doing the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 we had = discussed a "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation, that would provide = the list of supported attributes for a given user. Now that we are a few = years on from that, and in the middle of System Service, what is the = current IPP WG thinking about where such an operation ought to be = defined? 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X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCYprvYtyrCYMJbJotj+16yWLzq2sXs wOSxa9tOJo95i6czBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGUcXf+DueAJd8Wf6x/YGxg3c3YxcnJICJhI dPz+ydLFyMUhJLCPUeJl1w5GmMS+pgPMEIlDjBIbrnSygyR4BQQlfky+B9TBwcEsIC9x8Lws SJhZQEvi+6NWqEFvGCV+3HjNBpIQFpCQON6/kBXCtpQ4sWIdE4jNJqAm8XtSH1icU8BK4nH7 KnaQmSwCqhKP/ilAzFSTeHV9GgvEWhuJle/Wgp0gBDTm65ubYK0iAhoSH6Y0s0HcLCvx9tcS sJslBDawSRz/fJ9tAqPwLCRnz0I4exaSsxcwMq9iFMpNzMzRzcwz0kssKMhJ1UvOz93ECArs 6XaCOxiPr7I6xCjAwajEw/tDvDJCiDWxrLgy9xCjNAeLkjhvpQtQSCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUovqg0 J7X4ECMTB6dUAyPv2cvsZ6069QQmzDJ9Put2V37g3MVNsgk2iULc8Q0nfndVNZvsbRcXq/z8 u04/dMr/L74Hgg/y/Il3tPxWPOW7RSmX/l/xLatUPO0fZv1hSXMvms6x/gKrUJP8G6NfdenN wfxmv/gd5zpoh4RksRbJT710x0eu7bvHcgvmL58PvYj5Hb03S4mlOCPRUIu5qDgRAEIjYQlN AgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpkkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCierbvItyrCoPGSpcWxfS9ZLF517WJ2 YPLYtW0nk8e8xdOZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDKOrv/BXPCEu+LP9Q/sDYybObsYOTkkBEwk 9jUdYIawxSQu3FvP1sXIxSEkcIhRYsOVTnaQBK+AoMSPyfdYuhg5OJgF5CUOnpcFCTMLaEl8 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, The thinking before was that the proposer would put together a white paper so that we could formally discuss things and propose it as new work for the IPP WG. Given the scope, this won't be a huge undertaking (probably on the order of 10 pages, including boilerplate), but it is a necessary step so that everyone is on the same page. FWIW, I do not think this should be added to IPP System Service since this operation is targeted at the job services (Print, FaxOut, Scan) and *not* for the System service. > On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:32 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I remember back when I was doing the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 we had discussed a "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation, that would provide the list of supported attributes for a given user. Now that we are a few years on from that, and in the middle of System Service, what is the current IPP WG thinking about where such an operation ought to be defined? > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sat Jan 14 08:29:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC511296CD for ; 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boundary="===============4782722760272122779==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4782722760272122779== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ojxcFbGXVSGk9sS3FZnquw)" --Boundary_(ID_ojxcFbGXVSGk9sS3FZnquw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith, How about: 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the = number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes. It = is used when the Client generates the copies in the Document content = because the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute [RFC2911] = for the given Document format. If the Client includes the = "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute in a Job Creation request: - The Client SHOULD NOT include the "copies" Job Template attribute, or = if included MUST use the value 1; and - The Printer MUST ignore the value of the "copies-default" Printer = Description attribute. The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the = number of Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of = a single copy or Set. See the sections on the = "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more = information on using this attribute with multiple Document Jobs. For example, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] = Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages = each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template = attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of = 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 = (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 = shows a graphical representation of this example. > On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > Here's what I have so far in updating section 5.3, but I would = appreciate any editorial help on this: >=20 > 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) >=20 > The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies = the number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, = for scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute = [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the Client generates the = copies in the Document content. If the Printer supports the "copies" Job = Template attribute for a given document format, the Printer SHOULD NOT = support the "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. = If both are supported for a given document format, when = "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 or omitted since = the purpose of the attribute is to specify that the document data = contains copies generated by the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" = implicitly overrides any "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The = value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of = Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single = copy. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template = attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this attribute with = multiple Document Jobs. >=20 > To illustrate how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be = employed, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] = Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages = each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template = attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of = 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 = (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 = shows a graphical representation of this example. >=20 >=20 > Feedback? Changes? Alternatives? >=20 > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_ojxcFbGXVSGk9sS3FZnquw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

How about:

5.3 = job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job = Template attribute specifies the number of input pages that constitute a = set for finishing processes. It is used when the Client generates = the copies in the Document content because the Printer does not support = the "copies" attribute [RFC2911] for the given Document format. If = the Client includes the "job-pages-per-set" Job = Template attribute in a Job Creation request:

- The Client SHOULD NOT = include the "copies" Job Template attribute, or if included MUST use the = value 1; and
- The Printer MUST ignore the value of = the "copies-default" Printer Description attribute.

The value of = "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of Input = Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single = copy or Set. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" = Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this = attribute with multiple Document Jobs.

For example, if a Client submits a 14 = page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for printing that = contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client might = specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a value = of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a = "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer = staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical = representation of this example.

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:49 = AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

Here's what I have so = far in updating section 5.3, but I would appreciate any editorial help = on this:

5.3 job-pages-per-set = (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED = "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the number of = input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, for = scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" = attribute [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the = Client generates the copies in the Document content. If the = Printer supports the "copies" Job Template attribute for a given = document format, the Printer SHOULD NOT support the = "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. If = both are supported for a given document format, = when "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 = or omitted since the purpose of the attribute is to = specify that the document data contains copies generated by = the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" implicitly overrides any = "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The value of = "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of = Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of = a single copy. See the sections on the = "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for = more information on using this attribute with multiple = Document Jobs.

To illustrate how the = "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be employed, if a Client submits = a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for printing that = contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client might specify = a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a value of 7, a = "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a = "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the = Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical = representation of this example.


Feedback? Changes? Alternatives?

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - = Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE = ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0276440532670225866==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0276440532670225866== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11415b98da7eff054610ad27 --001a11415b98da7eff054610ad27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Smith, I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System Service. I question the need for this operation. An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes response already based on authenticated user identity. What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > The thinking before was that the proposer would put together a white paper > so that we could formally discuss things and propose it as new work for the > IPP WG. Given the scope, this won't be a huge undertaking (probably on the > order of 10 pages, including boilerplate), but it is a necessary step so > that everyone is on the same page. > > FWIW, I do not think this should be added to IPP System Service since this > operation is targeted at the job services (Print, FaxOut, Scan) and *not* > for the System service. > > > > On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:32 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I remember back when I was doing the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 we had > discussed a "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation, that would provide the > list of supported attributes for a given user. Now that we are a few years > on from that, and in the middle of System Service, what is the current IPP > WG thinking about where such an operation ought to be defined? > > > > Smith > > > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC > Forum / USB IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --001a11415b98da7eff054610ad27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Smith,

<= /div>I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP Syste= m
Service.

I question the need for this operation.
An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attri= butes
response already based on authenticated user identity.
What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP?
Cheers,
- Ira

<= br clear=3D"all">
Ira McDonald (Musician = / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Ch= air - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Wo= rking Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IE= TF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High Nort= h Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroof= music
http://sites.google.com/site/highn= orthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Sal= ine, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand M= arais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

=

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Michael Sw= eet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

The thinking before was that the proposer would put together a white paper = so that we could formally discuss things and propose it as new work for the= IPP WG.=C2=A0 Given the scope, this won't be a huge undertaking (proba= bly on the order of 10 pages, including boilerplate), but it is a necessary= step so that everyone is on the same page.

FWIW, I do not think this should be added to IPP System Service since this = operation is targeted at the job services (Print, FaxOut, Scan) and *not* f= or the System service.


> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:32 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<= a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:<= br> >
> Greetings,
>
> I remember back when I was doing the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 we= had discussed a "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation, that woul= d provide the list of supported attributes for a given user. Now that we ar= e a few years on from that, and in the middle of System Service, what is th= e current IPP WG thinking about where such an operation ought to be defined= ?
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Allianc= e / NFC Forum / USB IF
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
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> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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It's more clear on the usage and conformance intent. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Smith, > > How about: > > 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) > > The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the > number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes. It is > used when the Client generates the copies in the Document content because > the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute [RFC2911] for the given > Document format. If the Client includes the "job-pages-per-set" Job > Template attribute in a Job Creation request: > > - The Client SHOULD NOT include the "copies" Job Template attribute, or if > included MUST use the value 1; and > - The Printer MUST ignore the value of the "copies-default" Printer > Description attribute. > > The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number > of Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single > copy or Set. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" > Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this > attribute with multiple Document Jobs. > > For example, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] > Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages each, > the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with > a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', > and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer > staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical representation > of this example. > > > On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > Greetings, > > Here's what I have so far in updating section 5.3, but I would appreciate > any editorial help on this: > > 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) > > The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the > number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, for > scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" > attribute [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the > Client generates the copies in the Document content. If the Printer > supports the "copies" Job Template attribute for a given document format, > the Printer SHOULD NOT support the "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that > same document format. If both are supported for a given document format, > when "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 or omitted since > the purpose of the attribute is to specify that the document data contains > copies generated by the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" implicitly > overrides any "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The value of > "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of Input Pages > since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single copy. See the > sections on the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute > [RFC2911] for more information on using this attribute with multiple > Document Jobs. > > To illustrate how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be employed, > if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for > printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client > might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a value of > 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a > "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer > staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical representation > of this example. > > > Feedback? Changes? Alternatives? > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum > / USB IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --001a114912ba621037054610d8be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I prefer Mike's s= uggested text for "job-pages-per-set".=C2=A0 It's more clear<= br>
on the usage and conformance intent.

Cheers,
- Ira






I= ra McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobil= ity Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary = - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Prin= ting Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue = Roof Music / High North Inc
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http://sit= es.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: = 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
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On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Michael Sw= eet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

How about:=

5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX))

<= div>The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute sp= ecifies the number of input pages that constitute a set=C2=A0for finishing = processes. It is used when the Client generates the copies in the Document = content because the Printer does not support the "copies" attribu= te [RFC2911] for the=C2=A0given Document format. If the Client includes the= =C2=A0"job-pages-per-set"=C2=A0Job Template=C2=A0attribute in a J= ob Creation request:

- The Client SHOULD NOT inclu= de the "copies" Job Template attribute, or if included MUST use t= he value 1; and
- The Printer MUST ignore the value of the "= copies-default" Printer Description attribute.

The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with = the number of Input Pages since=C2=A0it is being used to demarcate the leng= th of a single copy or Set. See the sections on the "multiple-document= -handling" Job=C2=A0Template attribute [RFC2911] for more information = on using this attribute with multiple Document Jobs.

For example, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster=C2=A0Format [PWG51= 02.4] Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages e= ach, the Client might specify=C2=A0a "job-pages-per-set" Job Temp= late attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a valu= e of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute = with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four shee= ts.=C2=A0Figure 4 shows a graphical representation of this example.

On Jan= 12, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> = wrote:

Greetings,

Here's what I have so far in updating s= ection 5.3, but I would appreciate any editorial help on this:

5.3= =C2=A0job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED "job-p= ages-per-set"=C2=A0Job Template attribute specifies the number of inpu= t pages that constitute a=C2=A0set for finishing=C2=A0processes, for scenar= ios where the Printer does not support the=C2=A0"copies" attribut= e=C2=A0[RFC2911]=C2=A0for a given document format, and the Client=C2=A0gene= rates=C2=A0the copies in the Document content. If the Printer supports the = "copies"=C2=A0Job Template attribute for a given document format,= the=C2=A0Printer SHOULD NOT=C2=A0support the "job-pages-per-set"= attribute for that same document=C2=A0format. If both are supported for a = given=C2=A0document format, when=C2=A0"job-pages-per-set" is spec= ified, "copies" MUST be 1 or=C2=A0omitted since the purpose of th= e attribute is to specify=C2=A0that the document data=C2=A0contains copies = generated by the Client. Specifying=C2=A0"job-pages-per-set" impl= icitly overrides any "copies" / "copies-default"=C2=A0v= alue to 1. The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisi= ble=C2=A0with the number of Input Pages since it is being used to=C2=A0dema= rcate the length=C2=A0of a single copy. See the sections on the "multi= ple-document-handling"=C2=A0Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for = more=C2=A0information on using this attribute=C2=A0with multiple Document J= obs.

To illustrate how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute o= ught to be employed, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG51= 02.4]=C2=A0Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pa= ges each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Temp= late=C2=A0attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a= value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attri= bute with a value of 4 (staple) to=C2=A0have the Printer staple two Sets of= four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical representation of this example.

Feedback? Changes? Alternatives?

Smith

/**
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless Architect - Client Software= - IPG-PPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-= Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer = Working Group
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.
*/



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___________= ______________________________________________
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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4784004835976869147==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4784004835976869147== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_vUgEzV0OWIEyDjYsDhC+ew)" --Boundary_(ID_vUgEzV0OWIEyDjYsDhC+ew) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ira, > On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Smith, > > I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System > Service. > > I question the need for this operation. > > An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes > response already based on authenticated user identity. >From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't just use Get-Printer-Attributes... Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the choices a user has made. > What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identity of the requestor. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_vUgEzV0OWIEyDjYsDhC+ew) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ira,

On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, = Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Smith,

I agree with = Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System
Service.

I question = the need for this operation.

An IPP = job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes
response already based on authenticated user = identity.

=46rom a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes = is never authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, = we can't just use Get-Printer-Attributes...

Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which = *is* authenticated for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in = order to validate the choices a user has made.

What new = functionality would this putative operation add to IPP?

It would be defined as an = authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters = the values based on the authenticated identity of the = requestor.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0231750823774862406==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0231750823774862406== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114912bab2f5140546141e17 --001a114912bab2f5140546141e17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike, Thanks for those clarifications. I suggest the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation. I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate. I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to some attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration. We should talk more about where this operation might be published. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > Hi Smith, > > I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System > Service. > > I question the need for this operation. > > An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes > response already based on authenticated user identity. > > > From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never > authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't > just use Get-Printer-Attributes... > > Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for > printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the > choices a user has made. > > What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? > > > It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes > that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identity of > the requestor. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > --001a114912bab2f5140546141e17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,=

Thanks for those clarifications.

I suggest the p= roposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes"
<= /div>to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity= to
the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation.
<= br>
I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate.

I hav= e strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to some
<= /div>attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration.=C2=A0 We= should talk
more about where this operation might be published.
Cheers,
- Ira


<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted = Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secre= tary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet= Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
= Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-Apr= il: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-D= ec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,

On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald <= ;blueroofmusic= @gmail.com> wrote:

=
Hi Smith,

I agree with Mike that this operation should no= t be added to IPP System
Service.

I question the need= for this operation.

An IPP job service implementation can fil= ter a Get-Printer-Attributes
response already based on authenticat= ed user identity.

From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never au= thenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't = just use Get-Printer-Attributes...

Right now clien= ts need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for printers that do = authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the choices a user has m= ade.

What new functionality would this putative operation add= to IPP?

It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attri= butes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identit= y of the requestor.

________________________________________= _________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer


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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7400345799048639570==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7400345799048639570== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_340zghYNPGVPVEurI4E1/A)" --Boundary_(ID_340zghYNPGVPVEurI4E1/A) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ira, The registration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full specification is not technically required. That said, we (the designated experts) and the IPP workgroup can require sufficient clarity in the definition of the operation before such a registration is approved, or to require a spec of the scope of the registration is (in the opinion of the WG or designated experts) too broad for a simple registration. In the case of this operation, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough information to decide. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for those clarifications. > > I suggest the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" > to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to > the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation. > > I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate. > > I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to some > attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration. We should talk > more about where this operation might be published. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> Ira, >> >>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: >>> >>> Hi Smith, >>> >>> I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System >>> Service. >>> >>> I question the need for this operation. >>> >>> An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes >>> response already based on authenticated user identity. >> >> From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't just use Get-Printer-Attributes... >> >> Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the choices a user has made. >> >>> What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? >> >> It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identity of the requestor. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> > --Boundary_(ID_340zghYNPGVPVEurI4E1/A) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Ira,

The regi= stration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full specification is n= ot technically required. That said, we (the designated experts) and the IPP w= orkgroup can require sufficient clarity in the definition of the operation b= efore such a registration is approved, or to require a spec of the scope of t= he registration is (in the opinion of the WG or designated experts) too broa= d for a simple registration.

In the case of this op= eration, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough information to decide.


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 14, 2= 017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

H= i Mike,

Thanks for those clarifications.

I suggest= the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes"
= to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to
the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation.

I agree t= hat a brief whitepaper is appropriate.

I have strong reservatio= ns about adding a new operation (as opposed to some
attributes) sim= ply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration.  We should talk
more about where this operation might be published.

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musicia= n / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
C= hair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Wo= rking Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IET= F Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North I= nc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI&n= bsp; 48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 4= 9839  906-494-2434


On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Swee= t <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,

On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.= com> wrote:

Hi S= mith,

I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added= to IPP System
Service.

I question the need for this o= peration.

An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Pr= inter-Attributes
response already based on authenticated user ident= ity.

=46rom= a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never authenticated beca= use clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't just use Get-Printer-= Attributes...

Right now clients need to use Validat= e-Job (which *is* authenticated for printers that do authentication of print= jobs) in order to validate the choices a user has made.

What n= ew functionality would this putative operation add to IPP?

It would be defined a= s an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters= the values based on the authenticated identity of the requestor.

_________________________________________________________
Michae= l Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DF4PR84MB0281; H:DF4PR84MB0284.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Jan 2017 14:44:36.8005 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0281 Subject: Re: [IPP] Updated text for IPP Finishings 2.1 Section 5.3 - review wordsmithing help requested X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7072678775330025659==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============7072678775330025659== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4222716-F16D-4C97-93FD-89425B9C5E79"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_E4222716-F16D-4C97-93FD-89425B9C5E79 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_38B3EB51-441F-49AD-9B81-5D53CA855018" --Apple-Mail=_38B3EB51-441F-49AD-9B81-5D53CA855018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I prefer Mike's version as well. I will use it as-is, and re-post an = updated LCRC, unless there are any objections by end-of-day Tuesday, = January 17, 2017. Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I prefer Mike's suggested text for "job-pages-per-set". It's more = clear > on the usage and conformance intent. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > Smith, >=20 > How about: >=20 > 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) >=20 > The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies = the number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes. = It is used when the Client generates the copies in the Document content = because the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute [RFC2911] = for the given Document format. If the Client includes the = "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute in a Job Creation request: >=20 > - The Client SHOULD NOT include the "copies" Job Template attribute, = or if included MUST use the value 1; and > - The Printer MUST ignore the value of the "copies-default" Printer = Description attribute. >=20 > The value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the = number of Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of = a single copy or Set. See the sections on the = "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more = information on using this attribute with multiple Document Jobs. >=20 > For example, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format = [PWG5102.4] Document for printing that contains two copies of four = duplex pages each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job = Template attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value = of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 = (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 = shows a graphical representation of this example. >=20 >> On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = > wrote: >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> Here's what I have so far in updating section 5.3, but I would = appreciate any editorial help on this: >>=20 >> 5.3 job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX)) >>=20 >> The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies = the number of input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, = for scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" attribute = [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the Client generates the = copies in the Document content. If the Printer supports the "copies" Job = Template attribute for a given document format, the Printer SHOULD NOT = support the "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. = If both are supported for a given document format, when = "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 or omitted since = the purpose of the attribute is to specify that the document data = contains copies generated by the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" = implicitly overrides any "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The = value of "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of = Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single = copy. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" Job Template = attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this attribute with = multiple Document Jobs. >>=20 >> To illustrate how the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be = employed, if a Client submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] = Document for printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages = each, the Client might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template = attribute with a value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of = 'two-sided-long-edge', and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 = (staple) to have the Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 = shows a graphical representation of this example. >>=20 >>=20 >> Feedback? Changes? Alternatives? >>=20 >> Smith >>=20 >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_38B3EB51-441F-49AD-9B81-5D53CA855018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I prefer Mike's version as well. I will use it as-is, and = re-post an updated LCRC, unless there are any objections by end-of-day = Tuesday, January 17, 2017.

Smith

/**
    Smith = Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software = - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / = Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I prefer Mike's suggested text for = "job-pages-per-set".  It's more clear
on the = usage and conformance intent.

Cheers,
- Ira






Ira McDonald (Musician / Software = Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 11:29 = AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Smith,

How about:

5.3 = job-pages-per-set (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED "job-pages-per-set" Job = Template attribute specifies the number of input pages that constitute a = set for finishing processes. It is used when the Client generates = the copies in the Document content because the Printer does not support = the "copies" attribute [RFC2911] for the given Document format. If = the Client includes the "job-pages-per-set" Job = Template attribute in a Job Creation request:

- The Client SHOULD NOT = include the "copies" Job Template attribute, or if included MUST use the = value 1; and
- The Printer MUST ignore the value of = the "copies-default" Printer Description attribute.

The value of = "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of Input = Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of a single = copy or Set. See the sections on the "multiple-document-handling" = Job Template attribute [RFC2911] for more information on using this = attribute with multiple Document Jobs.

For example, if a Client submits a 14 = page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for printing that = contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client might = specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a value = of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', and a = "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the Printer = staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical = representation of this example.

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless = Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

Here's what I have so = far in updating section 5.3, but I would appreciate any editorial help = on this:

5.3 job-pages-per-set = (integer(1:MAX))

The RECOMMENDED = "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute specifies the number of = input pages that constitute a set for finishing processes, for = scenarios where the Printer does not support the "copies" = attribute [RFC2911] for a given document format, and the = Client generates the copies in the Document content. If the = Printer supports the "copies" Job Template attribute for a given = document format, the Printer SHOULD NOT support the = "job-pages-per-set" attribute for that same document format. If = both are supported for a given document format, = when "job-pages-per-set" is specified, "copies" MUST be 1 = or omitted since the purpose of the attribute is to = specify that the document data contains copies generated by = the Client. Specifying "job-pages-per-set" implicitly overrides any = "copies" / "copies-default" value to 1. The value of = "job-pages-per-set" MUST be evenly divisible with the number of = Input Pages since it is being used to demarcate the length of = a single copy. See the sections on the = "multiple-document-handling" Job Template attribute = [RFC2911] for more information on using this attribute with = multiple Document Jobs.

To illustrate how = the "job-pages-per-set" attribute ought to be employed, if a Client = submits a 14 page PWG Raster Format [PWG5102.4] Document for = printing that contains two copies of four duplex pages each, the Client = might specify a "job-pages-per-set" Job Template attribute with a = value of 7, a "sides" attribute with a value of 'two-sided-long-edge', = and a "finishings" attribute with a value of 4 (staple) to have the = Printer staple two Sets of four sheets. Figure 4 shows a graphical = representation of this example.


Feedback? Changes? Alternatives?

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - = Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE = ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4527008724624490102==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4527008724624490102== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f1eaa979e96054623d4bc --001a113f1eaa979e96054623d4bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike and Smith, I suggest that the parameters and attributes of such an operation are exactly the same as Get-Printer-Attributes, except that the User identity MUST be authenticated and MUST be authorized (via some out-of-band manner) to perform the new operation. It might be appropriate to abandon the "limit" and friends and also to say that you can't read "media-col-database" with this operation. It might also be appropriate to abandon "requested-attributes" and just return all the simple attributes and "xxx-supported" attributes. Smith - please think about the use case(s) and propose by email some more details for discussion as a next step. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > The registration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full > specification is not technically required. That said, we (the designated > experts) and the IPP workgroup can require sufficient clarity in the > definition of the operation before such a registration is approved, or to > require a spec of the scope of the registration is (in the opinion of the > WG or designated experts) too broad for a simple registration. > > In the case of this operation, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough > information to decide. > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Thanks for those clarifications. > > I suggest the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" > to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to > the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation. > > I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate. > > I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to some > attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration. We should > talk > more about where this operation might be published. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > <(734)%20944-0094> > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > <(906)%20494-2434> > > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> Ira, >> >> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald >> wrote: >> >> Hi Smith, >> >> I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System >> Service. >> >> I question the need for this operation. >> >> An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes >> response already based on authenticated user identity. >> >> >> From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never >> authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't >> just use Get-Printer-Attributes... >> >> Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for >> printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the >> choices a user has made. >> >> What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? >> >> >> It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes >> that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identity of >> the requestor. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> > --001a113f1eaa979e96054623d4bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike and Smith,

I suggest that the parameters and attribu= tes of such an operation

are exactly the same as Get-Printer-A= ttributes, except that the User
identity MUST be authenticated and= MUST be authorized (via some
out-of-band manner) to perform the n= ew operation.

It might be appropriate to abandon the "lim= it" and friends and also
to say that you can't read "= ;media-col-database" with this operation.
It might also be ap= propriate to abandon "requested-attributes" and
just ret= urn all the simple attributes and "xxx-supported" attributes.
=
Smith - please think about the use case(s) and propose by email
some more details for discussion as a next step.

Cheer= s,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Archi= tect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foun= dation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
C= o-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Ex= pert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
m= ailto: blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48= 176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839= =C2=A0 906-494-2434


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,

The registration pol= icy for operations is Expert Review, so a full specification is not technic= ally required. That said, we (the designated experts) and the IPP workgroup= can require sufficient clarity in the definition of the operation before s= uch a registration is approved, or to require a spec of the scope of the re= gistration is (in the opinion of the WG or designated experts) too broad fo= r a simple registration.

In the case of this opera= tion, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough information to decide.
=

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> w= rote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for = those clarifications.

I suggest the proposed new operation be = named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes"
to show the authenti= cated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to
the classic = "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation.

I agree that a b= rief whitepaper is appropriate.

I have strong reservations abo= ut adding a new operation (as opposed to some
attributes) simply v= ia IPP WG approval for IANA registration.=C2=A0 We should talk
mor= e about where this operation might be published.

Cheers,
- Ira



Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mob= ility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretar= y - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Pr= inting Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blu= e Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.= google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:= //sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
J= an-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<= br>

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,
=

From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes = is never authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we= can't just use Get-Printer-Attributes...


What new functionality would this putative operation add= to IPP?

It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attri= butes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identit= y of the requestor.

_= ________________________________________________________
Michael Sw= eet, Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer



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Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:22:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [17.153.95.149] by chive.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.1.0 64bit (built Jun 15 2016)) with ESMTPSA id <0OJU00KY4MI5YV60@chive.apple.com>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:22:55 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:22:53 -0500 Message-id: <6E003EBA-A592-4909-A455-FA5C4B43E6FE@apple.com> References: To: Ira McDonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYrlukUBNh8PaEjMXrV0vZLY7te8li 8aprF7MDs8fOWXfZPXZt28nkMW/xdKYA5igum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujJ63p5gK1uhWHGvexdrA 2KLaxcjJISFgIvHu/l/2LkYuDiGBvYwSPf9ussMkGha2s4LYQgIbGSVmdIDZvAKCEj8m32Pp YuTgYBaQlzh4XhYkzCygJfH9USsLxJx7jBI/1rwHqxcWkJA43r8QyraUOLFiHROIzSagJvF7 Uh9YnFMgWOLaledgcRYBVYkb0yYyQwz1keg5t4IJYq+NxJx/N5khFixnlri+6x8jyBEiQJuX PFeEuFlW4u2vJWA1EgJ72CTWnpnENoFReBaSu2ch3D0Lyd0LGJlXMQrlJmbm6GbmmeolFhTk pOol5+duYgQF+3Q74R2Mp1dZHWIU4GBU4uH9sas6Qog1say4MvcQozQHi5I4b7lLZYSQQHpi SWp2ampBalF8UWlOavEhRiYOTqkGxtZ13wqzLusbSMb9btp/qya55sWXT1nzWpxCJqu9yv63 tz1Yxvc+75MkhrYY8b3n0/eliv34Ui/0p+Drcr2QxL8Mh8Wdb01tEefznqlRKeOrO4/r4Aox w9f8Eeb3Wd5a8uSeKTHkEfzqvE3g5M/7c/fvnj5v5U8j6Z7+d9c1Zh5b3cpX7rvsnxJLcUai oRZzUXEiAEVKLUpXAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupmkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCjm181XqIkwmLbV1OL1q6XsFsf2vWSx eNW1i9mB2WPnrLvsHru27WTymLd4OlMAcxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXRs/bU0wFa3QrjjXvYm1g bFHtYuTkkBAwkWhY2M4KYYtJXLi3ng3EFhLYyCgxowMszisgKPFj8j2WLkYODmYBeYmD52VB wswCWhLfH7UChbmAyu8xSvxY8x6sXlhAQuJ4/0Io21LixIp1TCA2m4CaxO9JfWBxToFgiWtX noPFWQRUJW5Mm8gMMdRHoufcCiaIvTYSc/7dZIZYsJxZ4vquf4wgR4gAbV7yXBHiZlmJt7+W ME9gFJyF5NRZCKfOQnLqAkbmVYwCRak5iZUmeokFBTmpesn5uZsYwUFbGL6D8d8yq0OMAhyM Sjy8C3ZURwixJpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4b0qWxMhxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iDEZ6P6JzFKiyfnA iMoriTc0MTEwMTY2MzY2NzEnTVhJnNf+EtBWgfTEktTs1NSC1CKYLUwcnFINjFolzCbv+eui 0yZp1b3Me+r1R2d2t/XTBu6r/1YcZXkqUpOy59VPV/e4lqcznVZeu83xU5XN2r42QDbmbIt1 SN7VMz0nRFi3+W5ItDtweMdi7nVLFl4+YvWc8cKqx7OL6r7paL+ZGe++k2PO8UUR1ZsXOhbs 7dWa92vf9PwXB04tfaAkd4rxtKISS3FGoqEWc1FxIgBkt9lDngIAAA== Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Ira, The point of the operation is for a Client UI to be able to show the attributes and values the user is allowed to select, which necessarily includes things like "media-col-database". The user may be identified through requesting-user-name, authenticated user name, source IP, client certificate, etc., with the details of any filtering being an implementation detail. Defining "Get-User-Supported-Values" as analogous to "Get-Printer-Attributes" except that the operation filters the attributes and values based on the (most authenticated) user identity keeps things relatively simple and avoids future "oh shit" moments when we realize we added too many restrictions. And for conformance we'll want to require Client and Printer support for authentication but not require a Printer to use authentication, i.e., an allowed configuration is to just rely on the requesting-user-name, source IP, etc. Ideally, a Printer should not advertise the new operation unless it will be performing some sort of filtering - that allows for simple client-side optimizations when printer capabilities are not limited by user or other Client metadata. > On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Mike and Smith, > > I suggest that the parameters and attributes of such an operation > > are exactly the same as Get-Printer-Attributes, except that the User > identity MUST be authenticated and MUST be authorized (via some > out-of-band manner) to perform the new operation. > > It might be appropriate to abandon the "limit" and friends and also > to say that you can't read "media-col-database" with this operation. > It might also be appropriate to abandon "requested-attributes" and > just return all the simple attributes and "xxx-supported" attributes. > > Smith - please think about the use case(s) and propose by email > some more details for discussion as a next step. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > The registration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full specification is not technically required. That said, we (the designated experts) and the IPP workgroup can require sufficient clarity in the definition of the operation before such a registration is approved, or to require a spec of the scope of the registration is (in the opinion of the WG or designated experts) too broad for a simple registration. > > In the case of this operation, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough information to decide. > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> Thanks for those clarifications. >> >> I suggest the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" >> to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity to >> the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation. >> >> I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate. >> >> I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to some >> attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration. We should talk >> more about where this operation might be published. >> >> Cheers, >> - Ira >> >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> Ira, >> >>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: >>> >>> Hi Smith, >>> >>> I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System >>> Service. >>> >>> I question the need for this operation. >>> >>> An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes >>> response already based on authenticated user identity. >> >> From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't just use Get-Printer-Attributes... >> >> Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the choices a user has made. >> >>> What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? >> >> It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated identity of the requestor. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sun Jan 15 17:46:16 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAD8128824 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:46:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Oyj3b5FXtUn for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B52127058 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B84D54414; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563EC27B2; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:46:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id DBB924159; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x229.google.com (mail-yw0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::229]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BD422685 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 01:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x229.google.com with SMTP id w75so60834292ywg.1 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:46:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1b13r5ziwsOz7bX362Q08d3T144OhY0L9+AbNglesXc=; b=geh+gjQt8+vtd//KxeUNCXGvt0lCTYQiML4AHv/hOn9KjmaTi5auuDlSbbYJ/n+wvk GEIZYAPqSUVFJXxfCMTJPZpLhHtSypxE+ropwIJV7kluzDenHdK9HVyjX+skGgNY6YqK GoOh4fCjh0isyHDBwiuYmr5Wk+w94cxirB3ikKxzzWdpFOvushv1hDE+ecojVL+5YHiR wsCDhwI9g3vdlcaJesL6sOSE7wNpiflxOl2y7m842kTrjyiE34T0irp+r74+wuOy4lMD d0svkrtWU/5BS/bQsBkzIIeknOJ5qKNd+zy//7/CPHZqj6xJmpEQcjIAgDJXEU5O6xRB 37gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1b13r5ziwsOz7bX362Q08d3T144OhY0L9+AbNglesXc=; b=Sjwp6/hP5CuoGMpp3EIrHaFuFeCJLYt98lECIhd28ZrpadWhTwwmq3Gw2VjuzjWMVC MEOZLfZG0/eruJL9g2uE5lewBCmT4Qz+Qz1iC1emnuakcvKHuqUa9ONYLujM3CsUspDt 9i9+eiZhKit7gJ6b5PGv+ne+fspt2cIryHbJ++Vo4u76GKTt7JpF5fJ6a3vb+8NzuHka /v8vzlaGFbmJh7SirZitli8Is0d9YJDlQCr22C2MvgEo0oJ3+RXpVt14cvAn9CmHbFfd srD+rYivltJRirNvcmmYq2FHmdYmv8iF6Y45OwxA5d354k2l2Bzv/TN0FERcVo8oLFTf F1hw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJXBF42YImqYYFL29MR/foUhmQsM6RBJJysYDwgSvdWUlMbGgqMRCfnziTLtEcCAoO9dSYvyUtwiHzK3g== X-Received: by 10.129.99.136 with SMTP id x130mr15315986ywb.250.1484531163681; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:46:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.65.72 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:45:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6E003EBA-A592-4909-A455-FA5C4B43E6FE@apple.com> References: <6E003EBA-A592-4909-A455-FA5C4B43E6FE@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:45:43 -0500 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet , Ira McDonald Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] "Get-User-Supported-Values" operation? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4815899739856019701==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4815899739856019701== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114912baab58d505462c582e --001a114912baab58d505462c582e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike, You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client? If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the classic Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported" tag that says it supports User-based filtering)? My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could do filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs). Confused, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > The point of the operation is for a Client UI to be able to show the > attributes and values the user is allowed to select, which necessarily > includes things like "media-col-database". The user may be identified > through requesting-user-name, authenticated user name, source IP, client > certificate, etc., with the details of any filtering being an > implementation detail. > > Defining "Get-User-Supported-Values" as analogous to > "Get-Printer-Attributes" except that the operation filters the attributes > and values based on the (most authenticated) user identity keeps things > relatively simple and avoids future "oh shit" moments when we realize we > added too many restrictions. And for conformance we'll want to require > Client and Printer support for authentication but not require a Printer to > use authentication, i.e., an allowed configuration is to just rely on the > requesting-user-name, source IP, etc. > > Ideally, a Printer should not advertise the new operation unless it will > be performing some sort of filtering - that allows for simple client-side > optimizations when printer capabilities are not limited by user or other > Client metadata. > > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > > > Hi Mike and Smith, > > > > I suggest that the parameters and attributes of such an operation > > > > are exactly the same as Get-Printer-Attributes, except that the User > > identity MUST be authenticated and MUST be authorized (via some > > out-of-band manner) to perform the new operation. > > > > It might be appropriate to abandon the "limit" and friends and also > > to say that you can't read "media-col-database" with this operation. > > It might also be appropriate to abandon "requested-attributes" and > > just return all the simple attributes and "xxx-supported" attributes. > > > > Smith - please think about the use case(s) and propose by email > > some more details for discussion as a next step. > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Ira, > > > > The registration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full > specification is not technically required. That said, we (the designated > experts) and the IPP workgroup can require sufficient clarity in the > definition of the operation before such a registration is approved, or to > require a spec of the scope of the registration is (in the opinion of the > WG or designated experts) too broad for a simple registration. > > > > In the case of this operation, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough > information to decide. > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> Thanks for those clarifications. > >> > >> I suggest the proposed new operation be named > "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" > >> to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise similarity > to > >> the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation. > >> > >> I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate. > >> > >> I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as opposed to > some > >> attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration. We > should talk > >> more about where this operation might be published. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> - Ira > >> > >> > >> > >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > >> Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > >> May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > >> Ira, > >> > >>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Smith, > >>> > >>> I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to IPP System > >>> Service. > >>> > >>> I question the need for this operation. > >>> > >>> An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Attributes > >>> response already based on authenticated user identity. > >> > >> From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never > authenticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't > just use Get-Printer-Attributes... > >> > >> Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticated > for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate the > choices a user has made. > >> > >>> What new functionality would this putative operation add to IPP? > >> > >> It would be defined as an authenticated version of > Get-Printer-Attributes that explicitly filters the values based on the > authenticated identity of the requestor. > >> > >> _________________________________________________________ > >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > >> > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > --001a114912baab58d505462c582e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,
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You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation<= br>
does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client?
If that's right, what value does this operation offer over = the classic
Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-feat= ures-supported"
tag that says it supports User-based filterin= g)?

My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation c= ould do
filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs).
Confused,
- Ira





On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Michael Swe= et <msweet@apple.com> wrote:


> On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike and Smith,
>
> I suggest that the parameters and attributes of such an operation
>
> are exactly the same as Get-Printer-Attributes, except that the User > identity MUST be authenticated and MUST be authorized (via some
> out-of-band manner) to perform the new operation.
>
> It might be appropriate to abandon the "limit" and friends a= nd also
> to say that you can't read "media-col-database" with thi= s operation.
> It might also be appropriate to abandon "requested-attributes&quo= t; and
> just return all the simple attributes and "xxx-supported" at= tributes.
>
> Smith - please think about the use case(s) and propose by email
> some more details for discussion as a next step.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail= .com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
> Ira,
>
> The registration policy for operations is Expert Review, so a full spe= cification is not technically required. That said, we (the designated exper= ts) and the IPP workgroup can require sufficient clarity in the definition = of the operation before such a registration is approved, or to require a sp= ec of the scope of the registration is (in the opinion of the WG or designa= ted experts) too broad for a simple registration.
>
> In the case of this operation, we simply (IMHO) do not have enough inf= ormation to decide.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for those clarifications.
>>
>> I suggest the proposed new operation be named "Get-User-Print= er-Attributes"
>> to show the authenticated User dependence and the otherwise simila= rity to
>> the classic "Get-Printer-Attributes" operation.
>>
>> I agree that a brief whitepaper is appropriate.
>>
>> I have strong reservations about adding a new operation (as oppose= d to some
>> attributes) simply via IPP WG approval for IANA registration.=C2= =A0 We should talk
>> more about where this operation might be published.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>>
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@g= mail.com
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>> Ira,
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Smith,
>>>
>>> I agree with Mike that this operation should not be added to I= PP System
>>> Service.
>>>
>>> I question the need for this operation.
>>>
>>> An IPP job service implementation can filter a Get-Printer-Att= ributes
>>> response already based on authenticated user identity.
>>
>> From a practical perspective, Get-Printer-Attributes is never auth= enticated because clients do not support that usage. So no, we can't ju= st use Get-Printer-Attributes...
>>
>> Right now clients need to use Validate-Job (which *is* authenticat= ed for printers that do authentication of print jobs) in order to validate = the choices a user has made.
>>
>>> What new functionality would this putative operation add to IP= P?
>>
>> It would be defined as an authenticated version of Get-Printer-Att= ributes that explicitly filters the values based on the authenticated ident= ity of the requestor.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>>
>>
>

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Ira, > On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Ira McDonald wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation > does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client? No, I am suggesting that this new operation *may* not require Client authentication, depending on the configuration of the Printer, just as Cancel-Job, Cancel-All-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, Create-Job, Get-Job-Attributes, Get-Jobs, Print-Job, Print-URI, Send-Document, Send-URI, and Validate-Job do. FWIW, Get-Printer-Attributes is basically the only operation in IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911/8011) that does not say anything about authentication, the most authenticated identity, authorization rights, or filtering of attributes or values based on the most authenticated identity. And that makes it impossible to add authentication requirements without breaking a lot of (read: all) Clients. > If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the classic > Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported" > tag that says it supports User-based filtering)? It makes it consistent with the Job operations. > My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could do > filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs). No, there is discussion of authentication and the most authenticated user/identity, but specific requirements and filtering are discussed in the description of each operation. In particular, Get-Jobs and Get-Job-Attributes talk about filtering based on security policy, while Get-Printer-Attributes only talks about filtering based on document format (and basically says everyone gets to see the same information). This is arguably a bug in the original IPP specs, but there is nothing we can do to fix Get-Printer-Attributes now. (but there are advantages to having a public/guest "get" operation for discovering what a Printer will require, e.g., "uri-authentication-supported" values...) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Jan 17 12:41:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E6112950B for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:41:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.199, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XZhrWjkjgSgE for ; 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_0314A9C6-7B0D-4D74-B836-6DC29D1A7FB2"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_0314A9C6-7B0D-4D74-B836-6DC29D1A7FB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I have just posted an updated LCRC stable draft of IPP Finishings 2.1 = that should resolve all outstanding issues from the LCRC review on = 1/11/17. It is available here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20170117.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20170117.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20170117-rev.pdf = http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20170117-rev.docx The updated list of comments and resolutions is here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-ippfinishings21.txt I believe the expectation is that, if this revision is satisfactory to = the IPP Workgroup, then this will be considered the final draft and the = subject of a PWG Formal Vote. Thanks to all contributors for your assistance! 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ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8215773595412825419== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d4bf68b17c10546e132af --001a113d4bf68b17c10546e132af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Our next IPP WG call will be Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 10am-12pm US Pacific / 1pm-3pm US Eastern Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary) Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup) Attendee Access Code: *******# Attendee ID Code: # (empty) NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above! ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Date: Wednesday, from 5 October 2016 to no end date Time: 1:00 pm, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) Meeting Number: 682 763 393 Meeting Password: Printing123 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Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". ------------------------------------------------------- Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170111.pdf -- IPP WG call on 12/14/16 (3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith) * IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira) - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt -- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards -- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16 -- RFC2910bis & RFC 2911bis - IETF Approved as Proposed Standards! -- working w/ RFC Editor and IANA on RFC 8010 and RFC 8011 -- IETF AD, IANA, and authors have approved both final texts -- Schedule - IPP/1.1 RFCs published in Q1 2017 (4) Status of IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20170117.pdf -- Stable draft -- PWG Formal Vote started on 01/20/17 (5) Status of IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3d10-20170110.pdf -- Stable draft -- PWG Formal Vote started on 01/13/17 (6) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf -- Interim draft -- Reviewed by IPP WG on 01/11/17 - stopped at section 6.2.7 -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2017 (7) Next steps - IPP WG call on Wed 8 February 2017 at 1-3pm US Eastern -- PWG F2F slides review Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a113d4bf68b17c10546e132af Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Wednesday 25 January 2017 at
10am-12pm US Pacific / 1pm-3pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE:=C2=A0 Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx - ins= tead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!

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Meeting information
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Topic: IPP=C2=A0 WG
Date: Wednesday, from 5 October 2016 to no end date
Time: 1:00 pm, Eas= tern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 682 763 393
Meeting Password: Printing123
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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
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1. Go to https:/= /ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a5= 70ada91f3573
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

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For assistance
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".
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Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw= g/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170111.pdf
-- IPP WG call on 12/14/16

(3) Status of various IPP documents (Ira/Mike/Smith)
* IETF IPP/1.1 Updates (Mike/Ira)
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt
- http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt
-- changes for new IETF Proposed Standards
-- Alexey Melnikov (IETF ART AD) as AD sponsor on 06/02/16
-- RFC2910bis & RFC 2911bis - IETF Approved as Proposed Standards!
-- working w/ RFC Editor and IANA on RFC 8010 and RFC 8011
--= IETF AD, IANA, and authors have approved both final texts
-- Schedule - IPP/1.1 RFCs published in Q1 2017

(4) Status of IPP Finishings 2.1 (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd= /wd-ippfinishings21-20170117.pdf
-- Stable draft
-- PWG Formal Vote started on 01/20/17

(5) Status of IPP 3D Printing Extensions (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp3= d10-20170110.pdf
-- Stable draft
-- PWG Formal Vote started on 01= /13/17

(6) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i= pp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170108-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by IPP WG on 01/11/17 - stopped at section = 6.2.7
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q1/Q2 2017

(7) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Wed 8 February 2017 at 1-3pm US Eastern
-- PWG F2F slid= es review

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McD= onald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility So= lutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE= -ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing P= rotocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof M= usic / High North Inc
http://sites.google.c= om/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.googl= e.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park= Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 2= 21=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

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boundary="===============8257907452790353749==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8257907452790353749== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_t0MWjgaE+iwMGsrk6Z0e+g)" --Boundary_(ID_t0MWjgaE+iwMGsrk6Z0e+g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I guess this happened last week... > Begin forwarded message: > > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > Subject: RFC 8010 on Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Encoding and Transport > Date: January 17, 2017 at 4:59:23 PM EST > To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org > Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 8010 > > Title: Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: > Encoding and Transport > Author: M. Sweet, I. McDonald > Status: Standards Track > Stream: IETF > Date: January 2017 > Mailbox: msweet@apple.com, > blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Pages: 51 > Characters: 115605 > Obsoletes: RFC 2910, RFC 3382 > > I-D Tag: draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt > > URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8010 > > DOI: 10.17487/RFC8010 > > The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) is an application-level protocol > for distributed printing using Internet tools and technologies. This > document defines the rules for encoding IPP operations, attributes, > and values into the Internet MIME media type called "application/ipp". It > also defines the rules for transporting a message body > whose Content-Type is "application/ipp" over HTTP and/or HTTPS. The > IPP data model and operation semantics are described in "Internet > Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics" (RFC 8011). > > This is now a Proposed Standard. > > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track > protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official > Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the > standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this > memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search > For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/retrieve/bulk > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_t0MWjgaE+iwMGsrk6Z0e+g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I guess this happened last week...

Begin = forwarded message:

From: = rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
Subject: = RFC 8010 on = Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Encoding and Transport
Date: = January 17, 2017 at 4:59:23 PM = EST
To: = ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org
Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
Reply-To: = ietf@ietf.org

A new Request for Comments is = now available in online RFC libraries.


       RFC 8010

=        Title: =      Internet Printing Protocol/1.1:
=             &n= bsp;      Encoding and Transport
       Author: =     M. Sweet, I. McDonald
=        Status: =     Standards Track
=        Stream: =     IETF
=        Date: =       January 2017
=        Mailbox:    msweet@apple.com,
=             &n= bsp;      blueroofmusic@gmail.com
=        Pages: =      51
=        Characters: 115605
       Obsoletes: =  RFC 2910, RFC 3382

=        I-D Tag: =    draft-sweet-rfc2910bis-10.txt

       URL: =        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8010

       DOI: =        10.17487/RFC8010

The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) is an = application-level protocol
for distributed printing using = Internet tools and technologies.  This
document = defines the rules for encoding IPP operations, attributes,
and values into the Internet MIME media type called = "application/ipp".  It
also defines the rules for = transporting a message body
whose Content-Type is = "application/ipp" over HTTP and/or HTTPS.  The
IPP = data model and operation semantics are described in "Internet
Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics" (RFC 8011).

This is now a Proposed Standard.

STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an = Internet Standards Track
protocol for the Internet = community, and requests discussion and suggestions
for = improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the = Official
Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the
standardization state and status of this protocol. =  Distribution of this
memo is unlimited.

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unlimited distribution.

The RFC Editor Team
Association Management = Solutions, LLC




_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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Sweet, I. McDonald > Status: Standards Track > Stream: IETF > Date: January 2017 > Mailbox: msweet@apple.com, > blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Pages: 221 > Characters: 535490 > Obsoletes: RFC 2911, RFC 3381, RFC 3382 > > I-D Tag: draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt > > URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8011 > > DOI: 10.17487/RFC8011 > > The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) is an application-level protocol > for distributed printing using Internet tools and technologies. This > document describes a simplified model consisting of abstract objects, > attributes, and operations that is independent of encoding and > transport. The model consists of several objects, including Printers > and Jobs. Jobs optionally support multiple Documents. > > IPP semantics allow End Users and Operators to query Printer > capabilities; submit Print Jobs; inquire about the status of Print > Jobs and Printers; and cancel, hold, and release Print Jobs. IPP > semantics also allow Operators to pause and resume Jobs and Printers. > > Security, internationalization, and directory issues are also > addressed by the model and semantics. The IPP message encoding and > transport are described in "Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Encoding > and Transport" (RFC 8010). > > This document obsoletes RFCs 2911, 3381, and 3382. > > This is now a Proposed Standard. > > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track > protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official > Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the > standardization state and status of this protocol. 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Begin forwarded message:

From: = rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
Subject: = RFC 8011 on = Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics
Date: = January 17, 2017 at 4:59:39 PM = EST
To: = ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org
Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
Reply-To: = ietf@ietf.org

A new Request for Comments is = now available in online RFC libraries.


       RFC 8011

=        Title: =      Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and =
=             &n= bsp;      Semantics
=        Author: =     M. Sweet, I. McDonald
=        Status: =     Standards Track
=        Stream: =     IETF
=        Date: =       January 2017
=        Mailbox:    msweet@apple.com,
=             &n= bsp;      blueroofmusic@gmail.com
=        Pages: =      221
=        Characters: 535490
       Obsoletes: =  RFC 2911, RFC 3381, RFC 3382

=        I-D Tag: =    draft-sweet-rfc2911bis-11.txt

       URL: =        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8011

       DOI: =        10.17487/RFC8011

The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) is an = application-level protocol
for distributed printing using = Internet tools and technologies.  This
document = describes a simplified model consisting of abstract objects,
attributes, and operations that is independent of encoding = and
transport.  The model consists of several = objects, including Printers
and Jobs.  Jobs = optionally support multiple Documents.

IPP = semantics allow End Users and Operators to query Printer
capabilities; submit Print Jobs; inquire about the status of = Print
Jobs and Printers; and cancel, hold, and release = Print Jobs.  IPP
semantics also allow Operators to = pause and resume Jobs and Printers.

Security,= internationalization, and directory issues are also
addressed by the model and semantics.  The IPP message = encoding and
transport are described in "Internet Printing = Protocol/1.1: Encoding
and Transport" (RFC 8010).

This document obsoletes RFCs 2911, 3381, and = 3382.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an = Internet Standards Track
protocol for the Internet = community, and requests discussion and suggestions
for = improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the = Official
Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the
standardization state and status of this protocol. =  Distribution of this
memo is unlimited.

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Association Management = Solutions, LLC




_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2535548619625139848==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============2535548619625139848== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1148a11898e19a05470354ea --001a1148a11898e19a05470354ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Smith plans to bring a whitepaper and/or slides on this new operation (tentatively to be named Get-User-Printer-Attributes for clarity) to the PWG F2F meeting in February. On reflection, I suggest that perhaps we *should* add this operation to IPP System Service to enhance IPP Client interworking with IPP Printers (job services). Mike has convinced me that the operation should look just like the existing Get-Printer-Attributes operation (input/output attributes), but allow the Printer (if so configured) to authenticate the Client's requesting user identity and always require filtering of the response based on the most authenticated requesting user identity. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation > > does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client? > > No, I am suggesting that this new operation *may* not require Client > authentication, depending on the configuration of the Printer, just as > Cancel-Job, Cancel-All-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, Create-Job, > Get-Job-Attributes, Get-Jobs, Print-Job, Print-URI, Send-Document, > Send-URI, and Validate-Job do. > > FWIW, Get-Printer-Attributes is basically the only operation in IPP/1.1 > (RFC 2911/8011) that does not say anything about authentication, the most > authenticated identity, authorization rights, or filtering of attributes or > values based on the most authenticated identity. And that makes it > impossible to add authentication requirements without breaking a lot of > (read: all) Clients. > > > If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the classic > > Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported" > > tag that says it supports User-based filtering)? > > It makes it consistent with the Job operations. > > > My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could do > > filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs). > > No, there is discussion of authentication and the most authenticated > user/identity, but specific requirements and filtering are discussed in the > description of each operation. In particular, Get-Jobs and > Get-Job-Attributes talk about filtering based on security policy, while > Get-Printer-Attributes only talks about filtering based on document format > (and basically says everyone gets to see the same information). > > This is arguably a bug in the original IPP specs, but there is nothing we > can do to fix Get-Printer-Attributes now. > (but there are advantages to having a public/guest "get" operation for > discovering what a Printer will require, e.g., > "uri-authentication-supported" values...) > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > --001a1148a11898e19a05470354ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Smith plans= to bring a whitepaper and/or slides on this new operation
(tentat= ively to be named Get-User-Printer-Attributes for clarity) to the
PWG F= 2F meeting in February.

On reflection, I suggest that pe= rhaps we *should* add this operation
to IPP System Service to enha= nce IPP Client interworking with IPP
Printers (job services).

Mike has convinced me that the operation should look just like the=
existing Get-Printer-Attributes operation (input/output attr= ibutes),
but allow the Printer (if so configured) to authenti= cate the Client's
requesting user identity and always req= uire filtering of the response
based on the most authenticate= d requesting user identity.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-C= hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open P= rinting WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEE= E-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a= mp; Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.= com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734= -944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494= -2434


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Michael Sw= eet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-A= ttributes operation
> does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client?

No, I am suggesting that this new operation *may* not require Client= authentication, depending on the configuration of the Printer, just as Can= cel-Job, Cancel-All-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, Create-Job, Get-Job-Attributes, G= et-Jobs, Print-Job, Print-URI, Send-Document, Send-URI, and Validate-Job do= .

FWIW, Get-Printer-Attributes is basically the only operation in IPP/1.1 (RF= C 2911/8011) that does not say anything about authentication, the most auth= enticated identity, authorization rights, or filtering of attributes or val= ues based on the most authenticated identity.=C2=A0 And that makes it impos= sible to add authentication requirements without breaking a lot of (read: a= ll) Clients.

> If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the cla= ssic
> Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported&q= uot;
> tag that says it supports User-based filtering)?

It makes it consistent with the Job operations.

> My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could do
> filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs).

No, there is discussion of authentication and the most authenticated= user/identity, but specific requirements and filtering are discussed in th= e description of each operation.=C2=A0 In particular, Get-Jobs and Get-Job-= Attributes talk about filtering based on security policy, while Get-Printer= -Attributes only talks about filtering based on document format (and basica= lly says everyone gets to see the same information).

This is arguably a bug in the original IPP specs, but there is nothing we c= an do to fix Get-Printer-Attributes now.
(but there are advantages to having a public/guest "get" operatio= n for discovering what a Printer will require, e.g., "uri-authenticati= on-supported" values...)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8487691026708205918==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8487691026708205918== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1DF9956E-F147-49EE-B10A-509D23C3CF18"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_1DF9956E-F147-49EE-B10A-509D23C3CF18 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6F4C83A5-4D89-4D2E-88D3-9B909EF52963" --Apple-Mail=_6F4C83A5-4D89-4D2E-88D3-9B909EF52963 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Ira. I'm still going to write it up in a white paper / technical = brief so that I can better outline the use cases, and we can use that to = drive our discussion at the Feb. F2F. Smith > On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:14 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Smith plans to bring a whitepaper and/or slides on this new operation > (tentatively to be named Get-User-Printer-Attributes for clarity) to = the=20 > PWG F2F meeting in February. >=20 > On reflection, I suggest that perhaps we *should* add this operation > to IPP System Service to enhance IPP Client interworking with IPP=20 > Printers (job services). >=20 > Mike has convinced me that the operation should look just like the > existing Get-Printer-Attributes operation (input/output attributes), > but allow the Printer (if so configured) to authenticate the Client's > requesting user identity and always require filtering of the response > based on the most authenticated requesting user identity. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc = > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > Ira, >=20 > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > You are suggesting this new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation > > does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client? >=20 > No, I am suggesting that this new operation *may* not require Client = authentication, depending on the configuration of the Printer, just as = Cancel-Job, Cancel-All-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, Create-Job, = Get-Job-Attributes, Get-Jobs, Print-Job, Print-URI, Send-Document, = Send-URI, and Validate-Job do. >=20 > FWIW, Get-Printer-Attributes is basically the only operation in = IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911/8011) that does not say anything about authentication, = the most authenticated identity, authorization rights, or filtering of = attributes or values based on the most authenticated identity. And that = makes it impossible to add authentication requirements without breaking = a lot of (read: all) Clients. >=20 > > If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the = classic > > Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported" > > tag that says it supports User-based filtering)? >=20 > It makes it consistent with the Job operations. >=20 > > My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could do > > filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs). >=20 > No, there is discussion of authentication and the most authenticated = user/identity, but specific requirements and filtering are discussed in = the description of each operation. In particular, Get-Jobs and = Get-Job-Attributes talk about filtering based on security policy, while = Get-Printer-Attributes only talks about filtering based on document = format (and basically says everyone gets to see the same information). >=20 > This is arguably a bug in the original IPP specs, but there is nothing = we can do to fix Get-Printer-Attributes now. > (but there are advantages to having a public/guest "get" operation for = discovering what a Printer will require, e.g., = "uri-authentication-supported" values...) >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6F4C83A5-4D89-4D2E-88D3-9B909EF52963 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks Ira. I'm still going to write it up in a white paper / = technical brief so that I can better outline the use cases, and we can = use that to drive our discussion at the Feb. F2F.

Smith



On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Smith plans to bring a = whitepaper and/or slides on this new operation
(tentatively to be named Get-User-Printer-Attributes = for clarity) to the
PWG F2F meeting in February.

On reflection, I suggest that = perhaps we *should* add this operation
to IPP System = Service to enhance IPP Client interworking with IPP
Printers (job services).

Mike has convinced me that the = operation should look just like the
existing Get-Printer-Attributes operation (input/output = attributes),
but allow the Printer = (if so configured) to authenticate the Client's
requesting user identity and always require filtering of the = response
based on the most = authenticated requesting user identity.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira = McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG = Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation = Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working = Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol = WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  = 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI = 49839  906-494-2434


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:49 = PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
Ira,

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> You are suggesting this new = Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation
> does NOT require authentication and authorization of the Client?

No, I am suggesting that this new operation *may* not require = Client authentication, depending on the configuration of the Printer, = just as Cancel-Job, Cancel-All-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, Create-Job, = Get-Job-Attributes, Get-Jobs, Print-Job, Print-URI, Send-Document, = Send-URI, and Validate-Job do.

FWIW, Get-Printer-Attributes is basically the only operation in IPP/1.1 = (RFC 2911/8011) that does not say anything about authentication, the = most authenticated identity, authorization rights, or filtering of = attributes or values based on the most authenticated identity.  And = that makes it impossible to add authentication requirements without = breaking a lot of (read: all) Clients.

> If that's right, what value does this operation offer over the = classic
> Get-Printer-Attributes (with perhaps an "ipp-features-supported"
> tag that says it supports User-based filtering)?

It makes it consistent with the Job operations.

> My reading of original RFC 2911 was that *any* operation could = do
> filtering based on the requesting user (i.e., Get-Jobs).

No, there is discussion of authentication and the most = authenticated user/identity, but specific requirements and filtering are = discussed in the description of each operation.  In particular, = Get-Jobs and Get-Job-Attributes talk about filtering based on security = policy, while Get-Printer-Attributes only talks about filtering based on = document format (and basically says everyone gets to see the same = information).

This is arguably a bug in the original IPP specs, but there is nothing = we can do to fix Get-Printer-Attributes now.
(but there are advantages to having a public/guest "get" operation for = discovering what a Printer will require, e.g., = "uri-authentication-supported" values...)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer



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--Apple-Mail=_F1390BF3-C66C-41BD-A037-8B1CFBAE38CD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, Earlier today, I have posted the initial draft of a technical brief = whitepaper formally introducing the notion of an IPP = Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation. It is posted on the PWG FTP site = here: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170130.pdf = =20 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170130.odt = =20 The latter document is in Open Document format, which I intend to use as = the "master" document format. I see in the draft F2F slides that there = is a slide for this topic, so I am asking that we keep this topic in = place for the F2F meetings in Sunnyvale in 2 weeks. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_F1390BF3-C66C-41BD-A037-8B1CFBAE38CD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Greetings,

Earlier today, I have posted the initial draft of a technical = brief whitepaper formally introducing the notion of an IPP = Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation. It is posted on the PWG FTP site = here:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170130.pd= f 
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170130.od= t 

The latter document is in Open Document = format, which I intend to use as the "master" document format. I see in = the draft F2F slides that there is a slide for this topic, so I am = asking that we keep this topic in place for the F2F meetings in = Sunnyvale in 2 weeks.

Cheers,

Smith

/**
    Smith = Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software = - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / = Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



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The IPP and SM workgroups will = have a joint conference call on Feb 1 at 1PM ET to review the proposed slid= es for the February 14-15=C2=A0 PWG face-to-face meetings. NOTE THAT SM Wor= kGroup WebEx is being used!

 

IPP slides have been posted by Michael Sweet at:

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Tentative SM slides are posted at:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/slides/Se= mantic-Model-February%202017-meeting.pdf

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/sli= des/Semantic-Model-February%202017-meeting.pptx

 

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NOTE THAT SM WorkGroup WebEx is being used!

 

To join the onli= ne meeting (Now from mobile devices!)

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