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Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.1] Issue #56: Section 11.1 lacks mention of attributes and language clarifying shape / size / rotation of staples and punch
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[Issue Unconfirmed]

Section 11.1 doesn't mention the "punching-hole-diameter-configured" and
"stitching-angle" attributes, and related language, to clarify that punched
holes are round and of a particular size, and to define that staples' axis
of rotation is around their midpoint and have a particular rotation, to
more specifically define the coordinates of the space occupied by the
punched holes and staples.

Link: http://www.pwg.org/issues/56

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Greetings,

I have just posted a new draft of the Get-User-Printer-Attributes white =
paper. This draft includes additional and expanded use cases, and =
accompanying sequence diagrams. I'm hoping we can use this for =
discussion at the April F2F. Please review beforehand if you have the =
time and inclination:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.pdf =
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Cheers,

Smith

/**
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Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
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FYI - well worth reading (and watching the short video) for anyone
interested
in developments in Internet protocols.

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I=E2=80=99ve written a short blog post recapping a few highlights from IETF=
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Subject: [IPP] Get-User-Printer-Attributes : Enhanced rationale for why Get-Printer-Attributes is NOT sufficient?
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Hi there,

In my Get-User-Printer-Attributes white paper =
(https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.pdf =
<https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.pdf>) I =
wanted to clearly articulate the reason why Get-Printer-Attributes is =
not sufficient by itself to convey per-user printing options (print =
policy). The existing section 4 isn't sufficiently detailed IMHO - =
here's what I have thus far (with some additions since I posted the =
above draft):

The existing Get-Printer-Attributes operation itself has the correct =
semantics, but the expectation of all legacy Clients is that the Printer =
will not respond to a Get-Printer-Attributes operation with an HTTP =
challenge. Adding additional operation attributes to the =
Get-Printer-Attributes operation to cause the Printer to respond with an =
authentication challenge could be done but would require updating core =
IPP specifications, which is procedurally not desirable. If the Printer =
were to filter its response or respond with an authentication challenge =
if =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-name=E2=80=9D were included in the operation =
request, that would be a change to existing behavior precedent. A new =
operation with the appropriate semantics was decided to be the most =
efficient way to add this facility to the IPP ecosystem.

The reasons I have heard thus far are:

Historical precedent from using Get-Printer-Attributes in many different =
IPP workflows guides us away from overloading its use for per-user print =
policy
The Printer cannot change or "filter" the set of "Printer Attributes" it =
includes in its Get-Printer-Attributes response based on the  =
"requesting-user-name" operation attribute optionally supplied by the =
Client in the Get-Printer-Attributes operation because this would =
violate the expectations of the definition of Get-Printer-Attributes in =
RFC 2911 / RFC 8011 (section 4.2.5). (In particular, it isn't clear to =
me whether "requesting-user-name" could legitimately cause the Printer =
to change the values it returns in Get-Printer-Attributes. Reading =
sections 4.2.5, 5.4.2, and 9.1 in RFC 8011 didn't paint a clear =
picture.)
Adding a new optional operation attribute for Get-Printer-Attributes =
might be functionally equivalent in some cases to creating a new =
Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, but using a new operation will =
help us avoid changing or updating core specifications (e.g. RFC 8011).
???


Thoughts? Any other ambiguity that needs to be covered?

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/




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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Hi there,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">In my Get-User-Printer-Attributes white paper (<a =
href=3D"https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.pdf"=
 =
class=3D"">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.p=
df</a>) I wanted to clearly articulate the reason why =
Get-Printer-Attributes is not sufficient by itself to convey per-user =
printing options (print policy). The existing section 4 isn't =
sufficiently detailed IMHO - here's what I have thus far (with some =
additions since I posted the above draft):</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; =
padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">The existing =
Get-Printer-Attributes operation itself has the correct semantics, but =
the expectation of all legacy Clients is that the Printer will not =
respond to a Get-Printer-Attributes operation with an HTTP challenge. =
Adding additional operation attributes to the Get-Printer-Attributes =
operation to cause the Printer to respond with an authentication =
challenge could be done but would require updating core IPP =
specifications, which is procedurally not desirable. If the Printer were =
to filter its response or respond with an authentication challenge if =
=E2=80=9Crequesting-user-name=E2=80=9D were included in the operation =
request, that would be a change to existing behavior precedent. A new =
operation with the appropriate semantics was decided to be the most =
efficient way to add this facility to the IPP =
ecosystem.</div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The reasons I have heard thus far are:</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ol class=3D"MailOutline"><li =
class=3D"">Historical precedent from using Get-Printer-Attributes in =
many different IPP workflows guides us away from overloading its use for =
per-user print policy</li><li class=3D"">The Printer cannot change or =
"filter" the set of "Printer Attributes" it includes in its =
Get-Printer-Attributes response based on the =
&nbsp;"requesting-user-name" operation attribute optionally supplied by =
the Client in the Get-Printer-Attributes operation because this would =
violate the expectations of the definition of Get-Printer-Attributes in =
RFC 2911 / RFC 8011 (section 4.2.5). <font color=3D"#ff2600" =
class=3D"">(In particular, it isn't clear to me whether =
"requesting-user-name" could legitimately cause the Printer to change =
the values it returns in Get-Printer-Attributes. Reading sections 4.2.5, =
5.4.2, and 9.1 in RFC 8011 didn't paint a clear picture.)</font></li><li =
class=3D"">Adding a new optional operation attribute for =
Get-Printer-Attributes might be functionally equivalent in some cases to =
creating a new Get-User-Printer-Attributes operation, but using a new =
operation will help us avoid changing or updating core specifications =
(e.g. RFC 8011).</li><li class=3D"">???</li></ol><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Thoughts? Any other ambiguity that needs to =
be covered?</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">

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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 13 April 2017 at
12-1:30pm US Pacific / 3pm-4:30pm US Eastern

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239>
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300>
(Primary)
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570>
(Backup)

Attendee Access Code: *******#
Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

NOTE: Please DO NOT USE the audio bridge number listed by WebEx
- instead use the regular PWG conference bridge listed above!


-------------------------------------------------------
Meeting information
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Topic: IPP WG
Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, March 2, 2017, to no end date
3:00 pm  |  Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)  |  1 hr 30 mins

Meeting number: 682 763 393
Meeting password: Printing123

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To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
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1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m1178788048
9ec752af18c651d543c893
2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170330.pdf
-- IPP WG call on 03/30/17

(3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-amsc-march-2017d1.pdf
-- Paul attended an AMSC meeting yesterday (03/29/16) w/ Mike's slide

(4) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170314-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft - no update since previous IPP WG call
-- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017 (PWG SC or formal vote?)

(5) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170404.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019147.html
-- Schedule - PWG review at Virtual F2F in May?

(6) Review of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170327-rev.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/schemas/smpjt3d10-20170327.zip
-- Interim draft (erroneously still says "Initial draft" on cover page)
-- Schedule - Prototype draft Q2 2017

(7) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170314-rev.pdf
-- Interim draft
-- Reviewed by IPP F2F on 02/14/17
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2/Q3 2017

(8) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Thu 27 April 2017 at 3-4:30pm US Eastern
- IPP WG at PWG Virtual F2F 2-4 May 2017
-- URGENT - no published agenda for May PWG/OP Summit meeting

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br>Our next IPP WG call will be Thu=
rsday 13 April 2017 at<br>12-1:30pm US Pacific / 3pm-4:30pm US Eastern<br><=
br>Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28866%29%20469-323=
9" value=3D"+18664693239" target=3D"_blank">1-866-469-3239</a><br>Call-in t=
oll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28650%29%20429-3300" value=3D"+1650=
4293300" target=3D"_blank">1-650-429-3300</a> (Primary)<br>Call-in toll num=
ber (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28408%29%20856-9570" value=3D"+14088569570=
" target=3D"_blank">1-408-856-9570</a> (Backup)<br><br>Attendee Access Code=
: *******#<br>Attendee ID Code: # (empty)<br><br>NOTE: Please DO NOT USE th=
e audio bridge number listed by WebEx <br>- instead use the regular PWG con=
ference bridge listed above!<br><br><br>------------------------------<wbr>=
-------------------------<br>Meeting information<br>-----------------------=
-------<wbr>-------------------------<br>Topic: IPP WG<b><br></b>Every 2 we=
eks on Thursday, from Thursday, March 2, 2017, to no end date<br>3:00 pm=C2=
=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)=C2=A0=C2=
=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins<br><table style=3D"border-collapse:separate;bo=
rder-width:0px;border-style:none;border-color:white;border-spacing:0px;max-=
width:100%;min-width:279px" width=3D"279" height=3D"23"><tbody><tr style=3D=
"line-height:20px"><td style=3D"word-break:normal;font-size:15px;font-famil=
y:arial;color:rgb(102,102,102);padding:0px"><br></td></tr></tbody></table>M=
eeting number: 682 763 393<br>Meeting password: Printing123<br><br>--------=
----------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>To join the online =
meeting (Now from mobile devices!)<br>------------------------------<wbr>--=
-----------------------<br>1. Go to <a href=3D"https://ieee-isto.webex.com/=
ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm11787880489ec752af18c651d543c893" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ie<wbr>ee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm1178788048<wbr>9e=
c752af18c651d543c893</a><br>2. If requested, enter your name and email addr=
ess.<br>3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing1=
23<br>4. Click &quot;Join&quot;.<br><br></div>Agenda:<br>(1) PWG IP Policy,=
 Minute Taker, and Agenda Review<br>- Mike as minute taker?<br><br>(2) Appr=
ove IPP minutes from previous meetings<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/p=
ub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170330.pdf" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170330.pdf</a>=
<br>-- IPP WG call on 03/30/17<br><br></div><div>(3) Status of AMSC liaison=
 w/ PWG (Paul)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-=
amsc-march-2017d1.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.=
org/pub/pwg/lia<wbr>ison/ansi/pwg-<span class=3D"gmail-m_359013067756718088=
2gmail-il">amsc</span>-march-2017d<wbr>1.pdf</a></div><div>-- Paul attended=
 an AMSC meeting yesterday (03/29/16) w/ Mike&#39;s slide<br><br></div><div=
><div>(4) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org=
/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170314-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://f=
tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<span class=3D"gmail-m_3590130677567180882gmail-m_-61836=
0287055291981gmail-il">ipp</span><wbr>/wd/wd-<span class=3D"gmail-m_3590130=
677567180882gmail-m_-618360287055291981gmail-il">ipp</span>-<span class=3D"=
gmail-m_3590130677567180882gmail-m_-618360287055291981gmail-il">charter</sp=
an>-20170314-re<wbr>v.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Interim draft - no update si=
nce previous IPP WG call<br></div>-- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017 (PWG S=
C or formal vote?)<br><br></div><div>(5) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attribu=
tes (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-us=
erop-20170404.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp/wh=
itepaper/tb-userop-<wbr>20170404.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org=
/archives/ipp/2017/019147.html">http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019147=
.html</a><br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG review at Virtual F2F in May?<br>=
</div><div><br>(6) Review of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D=
"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170327-rev.pdf" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp/wd/wd-smpjt=
3d10-20170327-<wbr>rev.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/s=
m3/schemas/smpjt3d10-20170327.zip" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>sm3/schemas/smpjt3d10-<wbr>20170327.zip</a><br=
></div><div>-- Interim draft (erroneously still says &quot;Initial draft&qu=
ot; on cover page)<br></div><div>-- Schedule - Prototype draft Q2 2017<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>(7) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)<br>- <=
a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170314-rev.pdf=
" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd/wd-ippsystem10-2=
0170314-<wbr>rev.pdf</a><br>-- Interim draft<br>-- Reviewed by IPP F2F on 0=
2/14/17<br>-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q2/Q3 2017<br><br>(8) Next step=
s<br>- IPP WG call on Thu 27 April 2017 at 3-4:30pm US Eastern<br></div><di=
v>- IPP WG at PWG Virtual F2F 2-4 May 2017<br></div><div>-- URGENT - no pub=
lished agenda for May PWG/OP Summit meeting<br></div><div><br></div>Cheers,=
<br></div>- Ira<br><br><br><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>=
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Op=
en Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair -=
 IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IP=
P &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"=
color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a=
 href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gm=
ail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0=
 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906=
-494-2434<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:=
inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><di=
v></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Subject: [IPP] Fwd: [IANA #955632] Request for media type text/strings
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All,

FYI...  I will take care of supplying the updates they have requested...


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Amanda Baber via RT <iana-mime@iana.org>
> Subject: [IANA #955632] Request for media type text/strings
> Date: April 13, 2017 at 12:59:03 PM EDT
> To: msweet@apple.com
> Reply-To: iana-mime@iana.org
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> The designated experts have returned a review for this request (see inline comments below). Your other request is still in their queue. I'll send them a reminder now.
> 
> Please send a revised security considerations section with your reply.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Amanda Baber
> Lead IANA Services Specialist
> 
> ===
> 
>> Name: Michael Sweet
>> Email: msweet@apple.com
> 
>> Media type name: text
>> Media subtype name: strings
> 
> This name is acceptable, although I have to at least suggest that a more
> specific name, e.g., application/printer-message-catalog might be
> something to consider. (My personal preference would be the leave the name
> alone, but as reviewer I am obligated to make the suggestion.)
> 
> The fact that this essentially a registration of Apple's .strings
> file format, the more general name is OK, but does place a bit more
> of a requirement on the registration to cover all the issues.
> 
>> Required parameters: NONE
> 
>> Optional parameters:
>> NONE
> 
>> Encoding considerations: 8bit
> 
>> UTF-8 encoded Unicode text.
> 
>> Security considerations:
> 
>> Localized strings may be arbitrarily large and could potentially cause a
>> denial-of-service.
> 
>> Localized strings may contain printf-style format characters that could cause
>> a program to display unintended information or crash.
> 
> This is useful information but not sufficient. All media types must:
> 
> (1) State whether or not the media type contains active or executable
>    content. If the media type does contain executable content explain
>    what measures have been taken to insure that it can be executed
>    safely, e.g. a sandbox, safe operation set, signed content, etc.
> 
> (2) State whether or not the information contained in the media type
>    needs privacy or integrity services.
> 
> (3) If the answer to (2) is yes, elaborate on any privacy or integrity
>    services the media type itself provides, or if it doesn't provide such
>    services, explain how they should be provided externally, e.g., through
>    the use of SSL/TLS.
> 
> The answer to (1) is pretty clearly "no", but that needs to be stated. As for
> (2) and (3), the format clearly doesn't provide integrity or privacy
> protections. I don't think privacy is an issue - and you should say that if
> it's true - but integrity clearly is, so there needs to be something about how
> this kind of protection is achieved in the wild.
> 
>> Interoperability considerations:
>> NONE
> 
>> Published specification:
>> http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippjobprinterext3v10-20120727-5100.13.pdf
> 
> Is the candidate URL going to change to something else at some point?
> 
>> Applications which use this media:
>> All Cocoa, NeXTStep, and OpenStep applications
>> CUPS
>> IPP Everywhere
> 
>> Fragment identifier considerations:
>> NONE
> 
>> Restrictions on usage:
>> NONE
> 
>> Provisional registration? (standards tree only):
>> NONE
> 
>> Additional information:
> 
>> 1. Deprecated alias names for this type: NONE
>> 2. Magic number(s): NONE
>> 3. File extension(s): NONE
>> 4. Macintosh file type code: NONE
>> 5. Object Identifiers: NONE
> 
>> General Comments:
> 
> 
>> Person to contact for further information:
> 
>> 1. Name: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup
>> 2. Email: ipp@pwg.org
> 
>> Intended usage: Common
>> Used for providing localizations of English keywords and numeric values.
> 
> 
>> Author/Change controller: The Printer Working Group
>> c/o The IEEE Industry Standards and Technology Organization
>> 445 Hoes Lane
>> Piscataway, NJ 08854
>> USA
> 
> 
> 

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer


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class=3D"">All,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">FYI...=
 &nbsp;I will take care of supplying the updates they have =
requested...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Begin =
forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
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-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Amanda Baber via RT &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:iana-mime@iana.org" =
class=3D"">iana-mime@iana.org</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><div =
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color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">[IANA #955632] =
Request for media type text/strings</b><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">April 13, 2017 at 12:59:03 PM =
EDT<br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Reply-To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:iana-mime@iana.org" class=3D"">iana-mime@iana.org</a><br =
class=3D""></span></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi =
Michael,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The designated experts have =
returned a review for this request (see inline comments below). Your =
other request is still in their queue. I'll send them a reminder now.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please send a revised security considerations =
section with your reply.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Best regards,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Amanda Baber<br class=3D"">Lead IANA Services =
Specialist<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=3D=3D=3D<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Name: Michael Sweet<br =
class=3D"">Email: <a href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" =
class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a><br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Media type name: text<br =
class=3D"">Media subtype name: strings<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">This name is acceptable, although I have to at least suggest =
that a more<br class=3D"">specific name, e.g., =
application/printer-message-catalog might be<br class=3D"">something to =
consider. (My personal preference would be the leave the name<br =
class=3D"">alone, but as reviewer I am obligated to make the =
suggestion.)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The fact that this essentially =
a registration of Apple's .strings<br class=3D"">file format, the more =
general name is OK, but does place a bit more<br class=3D"">of a =
requirement on the registration to cover all the issues.<br class=3D""><br=
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NONE<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Optional parameters:<br class=3D"">NONE<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Encoding considerations: 8bit<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
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class=3D"">Security considerations:<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Localized strings may be =
arbitrarily large and could potentially cause a<br =
class=3D"">denial-of-service.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Localized strings may =
contain printf-style format characters that could cause<br class=3D"">a =
program to display unintended information or crash.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">This is useful information but =
not sufficient. All media types must:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">(1) =
State whether or not the media type contains active or executable<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;content. If the media type does contain =
executable content explain<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;what =
measures have been taken to insure that it can be executed<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;safely, e.g. a sandbox, safe operation set, signed =
content, etc.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">(2) State whether or not the =
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externally, e.g., through<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the use of =
SSL/TLS.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The answer to (1) is pretty =
clearly "no", but that needs to be stated. As for<br class=3D"">(2) and =
(3), the format clearly doesn't provide integrity or privacy<br =
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should say that if<br class=3D"">it's true - but integrity clearly is, =
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protection is achieved in the wild.<br class=3D""><br =
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All,

I have posted the minutes from today's IPP workgroup conference call to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170413.pdf

Our next conference call will be on April 27, 2017 at 3pm ET.

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Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.19] Issue #57: Add section describing IPP interaction with different HTTP authentication systems (Basic, Digest, OAuth2, Certificate, etc.)
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[Issue Unconfirmed]

It would be useful to have sequence diagrams and other descriptions of the
user and client interactions expected with the different HTTP
authentication mechanisms that might be employed in IPP infrastructures.
This document lacks that.

Link: http://www.pwg.org/issues/57

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Hello,

Recently, when reviewing the "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" white paper =
internally, I got asked a bunch of questions about how IPP works with =
different HTTP authentication / authorization models. I don't have a =
deep knowledge of this space, but I thought it was something that was =
important to document. I created sequence diagrams for a number of =
different HTTP authentication / authorization schemes and how I imagined =
IPP would fit into this. I have uploaded a PDF with these sequence =
diagrams for review by the IPP WG:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf =
<http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf>=20

Any feedback? Should we perhaps make a new white paper / technical brief =
that incorporates approved versions of these to document this =
increasingly important aspect of IPP Client / Printer interaction? In =
particular I don't know if I got the OAuth2 portion correct.

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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class=3D"">Recently, when reviewing the "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" =
white paper internally, I got asked a bunch of questions about how IPP =
works with different HTTP authentication / authorization models. I don't =
have a deep knowledge of this space, but I thought it was something that =
was important to document. I created sequence diagrams for a number of =
different HTTP authentication / authorization schemes and how I imagined =
IPP would fit into this. I have uploaded a PDF with these sequence =
diagrams for review by the IPP WG:</div><div class=3D""><br =
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feedback? Should we perhaps make a new white paper / technical brief =
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increasingly important aspect of IPP Client / Printer interaction? In =
particular I don't know if I got the OAuth2 portion correct.</div><div =
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Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
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Greetings,

I've posted a new draft of the IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes white paper, even though we haven't reviewed the April 4 draft yet. This has some clarifications that were not in the last draft. Let us please use this draft for review next week and possibly at the PWG virtual Face to Face May 2-4.

The new draft is here:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170418-rev.pdf
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170418-rev.odt
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170418.pdf
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170418.odt

Cheers,

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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Greetings,

HP Inc. would like to propose the addition of a new set of attributes =
that would be used to convey "presets", which would be similar to =
constraints but "positive" rather than "negative". This would be used =
for triggering a collection of values if a trigger condition were met or =
via user interaction, since the presets would have a localizable label.

The draft is here:

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf =
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In particular, it seemed to me that using "job-constraints-supported" =
and "job-resolvers-supported" didn't quite go far enough, and using =
constraints for this could have a negative effect on Client =
implementations.

Thoughts? Can discuss before / during / after the F2F.

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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class=3D"">Greetings,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">HP Inc. would like to propose the addition of a new set of =
attributes that would be used to convey "presets", which would be =
similar to constraints but "positive" rather than "negative". This would =
be used for triggering a collection of values if a trigger condition =
were met or via user interaction, since the presets would have a =
localizable label.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The draft is here:</div><div class=3D""><br =
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class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In particular, it seemed to me that =
using "job-constraints-supported" and "job-resolvers-supported" didn't =
quite go far enough, and using constraints for this could have a =
negative effect on Client implementations.</div><div class=3D""><br =
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after the F2F.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
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Subject: [IPP] Draft slides for the May F2F posted
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All,

I have posted the first draft of slides for the May F2F to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-17d1.pdf
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/slides/ipp-wg-agenda-may-17d1.pptx

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> On Apr 19, 2017, at 7:05 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>=20
> Smith,
>=20
> As IPP uses HTTP POST, the sequence diagram for any HTTP auth scheme =
is the same as for a typical web form submission.  Aside from providing =
a visual for IPP implementers with no HTTP experience, I'm not sure =
whether this is necessary or useful since it could be interpreted as =
"IPP is different" (when it isn't...)

I know, and I 100% agree with your concern that if we document something =
that documentation's existence makes it seem like IPP is more unique =
than it actually is at that level. I think the primary issue isn't the =
protocol itself but the client's local response to the different =
challenge types. And part of the problem space concerns the nature of =
the HTTP client being or not being a conventional web browser.

If I am understanding what I'm observing correctly, when a browser =
receives an HTTP 401 with WWW-Authenticate, it will generally show some =
type of authentication dialog, corresponding to the authentication type =
(e.g. Basic and Digest may trigger presentation of a dialog with =
username and password text fields; certificate may present a certificate =
selection list).

I have next to no experience with OAuth2, so I need some help with this. =
But looking at sequence diagrams that I cribbed for my own diagrams,   =
OAuth2 appears to have built into it an assumption that the client will =
allow presentation of HTML / web content in an HTML rendering window =
control.=20

The reason why I think this is significant is that, whether the client =
is a browser or some other type of application, handling a 401 can and =
usually is handled via a dialog constructed from nearly 100% local UI =
resources. In contrast, OAuth2 seems to require that the client have =
some capacity to render HTML or other web content in order to present =
the UI. So if OAuth2 were used for IPP, either the clients themselves =
would need to implement support for rendering web content somehow, or =
the OAuth2 system would need to recognize that the user agent isn't a =
web browser, and change what they send to the client, or something =
similar.

Is OAuth2 used in managed print systems for authentication today?

>=20
> I could see these as part of an informative appendix to an updated =
implementor's guide, once any error are eliminated...

I think that would be fine. I can file an errata request against 5100.19 =
for that.

>=20
>=20
>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hello,
>>=20
>> Recently, when reviewing the "Get-User-Printer-Attributes" white =
paper internally, I got asked a bunch of questions about how IPP works =
with different HTTP authentication / authorization models. I don't have =
a deep knowledge of this space, but I thought it was something that was =
important to document. I created sequence diagrams for a number of =
different HTTP authentication / authorization schemes and how I imagined =
IPP would fit into this. I have uploaded a PDF with these sequence =
diagrams for review by the IPP WG:
>>=20
>> http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf=20
>>=20
>> Any feedback? Should we perhaps make a new white paper / technical =
brief that incorporates approved versions of these to document this =
increasingly important aspect of IPP Client / Printer interaction? In =
particular I don't know if I got the OAuth2 portion correct.
>>=20
>> Smith
>>=20
>> /**
>>    Smith Kennedy
>>    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>    HP Inc.
>> */
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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> _________________________________________________________
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All,

I have posted a Stable draft of the PWG 3D Print Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities document to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170420.docx
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170420.pdf
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170420-rev.pdf

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Smith,

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
> ...
> If I am understanding what I'm observing correctly, when a browser receives an HTTP 401 with WWW-Authenticate, it will generally show some type of authentication dialog, corresponding to the authentication type (e.g. Basic and Digest may trigger presentation of a dialog with username and password text fields; certificate may present a certificate selection list).

Correct; the actual UI varies widely which is one of the reasons why most web sites do not use HTTP authentication...

> I have next to no experience with OAuth2, so I need some help with this. But looking at sequence diagrams that I cribbed for my own diagrams,   OAuth2 appears to have built into it an assumption that the client will allow presentation of HTML / web content in an HTML rendering window control. 

Not exactly.  There are a few required interfaces that need to be implemented by an OAuth2 server, one of which is a required GET endpoint that accepts a set of standard query parameters (what would be provided in a form) that can be used by a non-browser client ("native application" in their terminology) to enable the kinds of behavior we'd want/need for a printing client.  And this (non-idempotent...) GET request can be additionally authenticated using HTTP Basic to authenticate the client (...).

The bigger issue is that OAuth as a HTTP authentication scheme is poorly defined; the Bearer scheme (RFC 6750) does not include any parameters in the WWW-Authenticate header to point clients to the OAuth server to use, which is why we have a separate IPP attribute (accessible via Get-Printer-Attributes...) to tell the client which server endpoint to use...  The common usage for *that* method can be see in things like Github, where you get a multi-use access token from the Github web site and then use that as proof you are who you say you are...

TL;DR: OAuth is required to work without browsers.  And we have defined what is needed to implement IPP printers and clients that use it.  But actual implementation could probably use some documentation since there is obviously some confusion...

> ...
> Is OAuth2 used in managed print systems for authentication today?

I'm not aware of any large-scale deployments, but it is certainly possible there are proprietary systems doing so.

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Greetings,

Given the following scenario:
An IPP Printer has reported via Get-Printer-Attributes:
"job-password-supported" =3D 32
"job-password-encryption-supported" =3D 'none', 'md5'
(going to ignore "job-password-repertoire-configured" and =
"job-password-length-supported" for now...)
An IPP Client acquires from the User a job password "beeblebrox"

If the Client chooses 'none', then it should send in a Validate-Job =
operation

"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
"job-password" =3D 'beeblebrox'

However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the md5 hash =
octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like so?

"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
"job-password" =3D '3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'

Or since 'job-password' is defined in 5100.11 as "job-password =
(octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to provide the raw binary =
value? I cannot find any statement in PWG 5100.11, RFC 8010, or =
wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that makes this clear. Is the =
Printer expected to handle both scenarios?

Thoughts?

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/




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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Greetings,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Given the following scenario:</div><div class=3D""><ul =
class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">An IPP Printer has reported via =
Get-Printer-Attributes:</li><ul class=3D""><li =
class=3D"">"job-password-supported" =3D 32</li><li =
class=3D"">"job-password-encryption-supported" =3D 'none', 'md5'</li><li =
class=3D"">(going to ignore "job-password-repertoire-configured" and =
"job-password-length-supported" for now...)</li></ul><li class=3D"">An =
IPP Client acquires from the User a job password =
"beeblebrox"</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div =
class=3D"">If the Client chooses 'none', then it should send in a =
Validate-Job operation</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D '<font face=3D"Open Sans, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"2" =
class=3D"">none</font>'</div><div class=3D"">"job-password" =3D =
'beeblebrox'</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the =
md5 hash octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like =
so?</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D '<font face=3D"Open Sans, =
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"2" =
class=3D"">none</font>'</div><div class=3D"">"job-password" =3D =
'3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'</div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Or since 'job-password' is defined in =
5100.11 as "job-password (octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to =
provide the raw binary value? I cannot find any statement in PWG =
5100.11, RFC 8010, or&nbsp;wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that =
makes this clear. Is the Printer expected to handle both =
scenarios?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thoughts?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
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Subject: [IPP] Fwd: Proper encoding to be used in "job-password" when "job-password-encryption" is not "none"
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> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
> From: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
> Subject: Re: [IPP] Proper encoding to be used in "job-password" when =
"job-password-encryption" is not "none"
> Date: April 21, 2017 at 6:12:20 PM EDT
> To: Smith Kennedy <smith.kennedy@hp.com>
>=20
> Smith,
>=20
> The octetString syntax is a BLOB type, so the raw MD5 bytes are =
transferred, not the ASCII representation.
>=20
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Greetings,
>>=20
>> Given the following scenario:
>> 	=E2=80=A2 An IPP Printer has reported via =
Get-Printer-Attributes:
>> 		=E2=80=A2 "job-password-supported" =3D 32
>> 		=E2=80=A2 "job-password-encryption-supported" =3D =
'none', 'md5'
>> 		=E2=80=A2 (going to ignore =
"job-password-repertoire-configured" and "job-password-length-supported" =
for now...)
>> 	=E2=80=A2 An IPP Client acquires from the User a job password =
"beeblebrox"
>>=20
>> If the Client chooses 'none', then it should send in a Validate-Job =
operation
>>=20
>> "job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
>> "job-password" =3D 'beeblebrox'
>>=20
>> However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the md5 hash =
octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like so?
>>=20
>> "job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
>> "job-password" =3D '3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'
>>=20
>> Or since 'job-password' is defined in 5100.11 as "job-password =
(octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to provide the raw binary =
value? I cannot find any statement in PWG 5100.11, RFC 8010, or =
wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that makes this clear. Is the =
Printer expected to handle both scenarios?
>>=20
>> Thoughts?
>>=20
>> Smith
>>=20
>> /**
>>    Smith Kennedy
>>    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>    HP Inc.
>> */
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Re: [IPP] Proper =
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Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">April 21, 2017 at 6:12:20 PM =
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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Smith Kennedy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""></span></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Smith,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The octetString syntax is a BLOB type, so the raw MD5 bytes =
are transferred, not the ASCII representation.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:28 =
PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Greetings,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Given the following =
scenario:<br class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 An IPP Printer has =
reported via Get-Printer-Attributes:<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
"job-password-supported" =3D 32<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
"job-password-encryption-supported" =3D 'none', 'md5'<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
(going to ignore "job-password-repertoire-configured" and =
"job-password-length-supported" for now...)<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
An IPP Client acquires from the User a job password "beeblebrox"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">If the Client chooses 'none', then it should =
send in a Validate-Job operation<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'<br =
class=3D"">"job-password" =3D 'beeblebrox'<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the =
md5 hash octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like so?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'<br =
class=3D"">"job-password" =3D '3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Or since 'job-password' is defined in 5100.11 =
as "job-password (octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to provide =
the raw binary value? I cannot find any statement in PWG 5100.11, RFC =
8010, or wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that makes this clear. =
Is the Printer expected to handle both scenarios?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thoughts?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">/**<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Smith Kennedy<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wireless Architect - Client Software - =
IPG-PPS<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">ipp mailing list<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:ipp@pwg.org" =
class=3D"">ipp@pwg.org</a><br =
class=3D"">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">_________________________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: =
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
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orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">_________________________________________________________<br =
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Thanks Mike! So to put this all together:

RFC 8011 section 5.1.11 defines octetString as being simply a collection =
of octets
"job-password" is defined in PWG 5100.11 as "job-password =
(octetString(255))" which means its value will be raw octets
If "job-password-encryption" is "none" then there is no hashing, so =
presumably the plain octets are passed along (which is a bad security =
choice and also makes it possible for encoding confusion in the absence =
of "job-password-repertoire")
If "job-password-encryption" is one of the other keywords identifying a =
particular hashing algorithm, then the raw octets of the out put of that =
hashing algorithm are to be used.

Did I get that right?

Smith



> On Apr 21, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>=20
> Smith,
>=20
> The octetString syntax is a BLOB type, so the raw MD5 bytes are =
transferred, not the ASCII representation.
>=20
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Greetings,
>>=20
>> Given the following scenario:
>> 	=E2=80=A2 An IPP Printer has reported via =
Get-Printer-Attributes:
>> 		=E2=80=A2 "job-password-supported" =3D 32
>> 		=E2=80=A2 "job-password-encryption-supported" =3D =
'none', 'md5'
>> 		=E2=80=A2 (going to ignore =
"job-password-repertoire-configured" and "job-password-length-supported" =
for now...)
>> 	=E2=80=A2 An IPP Client acquires from the User a job password =
"beeblebrox"
>>=20
>> If the Client chooses 'none', then it should send in a Validate-Job =
operation
>>=20
>> "job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
>> "job-password" =3D 'beeblebrox'
>>=20
>> However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the md5 hash =
octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like so?
>>=20
>> "job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'
>> "job-password" =3D '3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'
>>=20
>> Or since 'job-password' is defined in 5100.11 as "job-password =
(octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to provide the raw binary =
value? I cannot find any statement in PWG 5100.11, RFC 8010, or =
wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that makes this clear. Is the =
Printer expected to handle both scenarios?
>>=20
>> Thoughts?
>>=20
>> Smith
>>=20
>> /**
>>    Smith Kennedy
>>    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>    HP Inc.
>> */
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>=20
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks Mike! So to put this all together:<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li =
class=3D"">RFC 8011 section 5.1.11 defines octetString as being simply a =
collection of octets</li><li class=3D"">"job-password" is defined in PWG =
5100.11 as "job-password (octetString(255))" which means its value will =
be raw octets</li><li class=3D"">If "job-password-encryption" is "none" =
then there is no hashing, so presumably the plain octets are passed =
along (which is a bad security choice and also makes it possible for =
encoding confusion in the absence of "job-password-repertoire")</li><li =
class=3D"">If "job-password-encryption" is one of the other keywords =
identifying a particular hashing algorithm, then the raw octets of the =
out put of that hashing algorithm are to be used.</li></ul><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Did I get that =
right?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>

<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Apr 21, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Michael Sweet &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Smith,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The octetString syntax is =
a BLOB type, so the raw MD5 bytes are transferred, not the ASCII =
representation.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless =
Architect) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Greetings,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Given the following =
scenario:<br class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 An IPP Printer has =
reported via Get-Printer-Attributes:<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
"job-password-supported" =3D 32<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
"job-password-encryption-supported" =3D 'none', 'md5'<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
(going to ignore "job-password-repertoire-configured" and =
"job-password-length-supported" for now...)<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=A2 =
An IPP Client acquires from the User a job password "beeblebrox"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">If the Client chooses 'none', then it should =
send in a Validate-Job operation<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'<br =
class=3D"">"job-password" =3D 'beeblebrox'<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">However, if the Client chooses 'md5', how does it encode the =
md5 hash octets? Does it encode it as hex-ascii in 32 octets like so?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"job-password-encryption" =3D 'none'<br =
class=3D"">"job-password" =3D '3f73fde3af41b6a50c84a75f84892b85'<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Or since 'job-password' is defined in 5100.11 =
as "job-password (octetString(255))", is it reasonable for it to provide =
the raw binary value? I cannot find any statement in PWG 5100.11, RFC =
8010, or wp-job-password-repertoire-20160101.pdf that makes this clear. =
Is the Printer expected to handle both scenarios?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thoughts?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">/**<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Smith Kennedy<br =
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Subject: [IPP] [PWG5100.13] Issue #58: Sections 5.6.32, 5.6.32.1, 5.6.32.2, and 5.6.32.3 : change "prtInputTrayTable" to "prtInputTable"
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[Issue Unconfirmed]

The OID "prtInputTrayTable" should actually be "prtInputTable" (RFC 3805
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[Issue Unconfirmed]

The OID "prtOutputTrayTable" should actually be "prtOutputTable" (RFC 3805
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Are we still having an IPP call today? If not please provide any feedback you have on the slides so I can post them for next week's F2F sessions...

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Hi Mike,

I'm double-booked with a Chrysler fire-drill meeting today.

I'll take one more look at your slides during 3 different meetings today
(through 4pm)
now in progress...

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
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On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> Are we still having an IPP call today? If not please provide any feedback
> you have on the slides so I can post them for next week's F2F sessions...
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div><div>I&#39;m double-booked with=
 a Chrysler fire-drill meeting today.<br><br></div><div>I&#39;ll take one m=
ore look at your slides during 3 different meetings today (through 4pm)<br>=
</div><div>now in progress...<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>- Ira=
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r"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co=
-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open=
 Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - I=
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&amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:=
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Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP concall today?
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OK so just to confirm, no IPP WG call today...

Smith



> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Mike,
>=20
> I'm double-booked with a Chrysler fire-drill meeting today.
>=20
> I'll take one more look at your slides during 3 different meetings =
today (through 4pm)
> now in progress...
>=20
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>=20
>=20
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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<http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
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> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
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> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com =
<mailto:msweet@apple.com>> wrote:
> Are we still having an IPP call today? If not please provide any =
feedback you have on the slides so I can post them for next week's F2F =
sessions...
>=20
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
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class=3D"">OK so just to confirm, no IPP WG call today...<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Mike,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I'm double-booked with a =
Chrysler fire-drill meeting today.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">I'll take one more look at your slides during 3 different =
meetings today (through 4pm)<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">now in =
progress...<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Ira<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br class=3D"">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br =
class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=3D""><a=
 style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br =
class=3D"">mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Jan-April: 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; =
734-944-0094<br class=3D"">May-Dec: PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI =
49839&nbsp; 906-494-2434<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
style=3D"display:inline" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"display:inline" =
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<br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:10 =
PM, Michael Sweet <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Are we still having an =
IPP call today? If not please provide any feedback you have on the =
slides so I can post them for next week's F2F sessions...<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
______________________________<wbr =
class=3D"">___________________________<br class=3D"">
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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Yes, no call.

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
> 
> OK so just to confirm, no IPP WG call today...
> 
> Smith
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> I'm double-booked with a Chrysler fire-drill meeting today.
>> 
>> I'll take one more look at your slides during 3 different meetings today (through 4pm)
>> now in progress...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>> 
>> 
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com <mailto:msweet@apple.com>> wrote:
>> Are we still having an IPP call today? If not please provide any feedback you have on the slides so I can post them for next week's F2F sessions...
>> 
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>> 
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Subject: [IPP] Pull request to fix 2 issues with IPP Everywhere Self Certification test suite 1.0 Update 1
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Hi there,

It was brought to my attention that the "ipp-tests.test" file in the IPP =
Everywhere Self Certification test suite 1.0 Update 1 was testing for =
"document-number" as a member of "overrides-supported", when it should =
be "document-numbers". I have resolved that and a build issue in a new =
pull request on the istopwg/ippeveselfcert project:

https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/17 =
<https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/17>

IIRC the process we decided on was to announce on this reflector and =
discuss in a future WG meeting.

Thoughts?

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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class=3D"">Hi there,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">It was brought to my attention that the "ipp-tests.test" file =
in the IPP Everywhere Self Certification test suite 1.0 Update 1 was =
testing for "document-number" as a member of "overrides-supported", when =
it should be "document-numbers". I have resolved that and a build issue =
in a new pull request on the istopwg/ippeveselfcert project:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/17" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/17</a></div><div=
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decided on was to announce on this reflector and discuss in a future WG =
meeting.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thoughts?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">

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Smith,

Looks good, and yes we can review this when we talk about the self-cert changes during the first IPP session next week.


> On Apr 28, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> It was brought to my attention that the "ipp-tests.test" file in the IPP Everywhere Self Certification test suite 1.0 Update 1 was testing for "document-number" as a member of "overrides-supported", when it should be "document-numbers". I have resolved that and a build issue in a new pull request on the istopwg/ippeveselfcert project:
> 
> https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/17
> 
> IIRC the process we decided on was to announce on this reflector and discuss in a future WG meeting.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Smith
> 
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Hi,

TLS/1.3 now going to Area Director review and then IETF Last Call.  Update
specs
imminently (TLS/1.2, RFC 5246, is 9 years old now).

Cheers,
- Ira


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 5:00 PM
Subject: [TLS] Fwd: Publication has been requested for
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Note that I=E2=80=99ve requested Kathleen begin her AD review.

For those not in the know about IETF process, there=E2=80=99s still a two-w=
eek IETF
LC after Kathleen=E2=80=99s review so if anything earth shattering gets unc=
overed
we can still address it before it gets to the IESG.

spt

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*From: *Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
*Subject: **Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-tls-tls13-20*
*Date: *April 28, 2017 at 16:49:53 EDT
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*Cc: *Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>, iesg-secretary@ietf.org,
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Sean Turner has requested publication of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-20 as
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>TLS/1.3 now going to Area Direc=
tor review and then IETF Last Call.=C2=A0 Update specs<br></div>imminently =
(TLS/1.2, RFC 5246, is 9 years old now).<br><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div sty=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>F=
rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Sean Turner</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:sean@sn3rd.com">sean@sn3rd.com</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Fri,=
 Apr 28, 2017 at 5:00 PM<br>Subject: [TLS] Fwd: Publication has been reques=
ted for draft-ietf-tls-tls13-20<br>To: &quot;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tls@ietf=
.org">tls@ietf.org</a>&gt;&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tls@ietf.org">tls@ie=
tf.org</a>&gt;<br><br><br><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>No=
te that I=E2=80=99ve requested Kathleen begin her AD review.<div><br></div>=
<div>For those not in the know about IETF process, there=E2=80=99s still a =
two-week IETF LC after Kathleen=E2=80=99s review so if anything earth shatt=
ering gets uncovered we can still address it before it gets to the IESG.<di=
v><br></div><div>spt</div><div><br></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"gmail-m_4372998033446507037Ap=
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ica neue,helvetica,sans-serif">Sean Turner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sean@sn3rd=
.com" target=3D"_blank">sean@sn3rd.com</a>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=
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ue,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font,helvetica neue,helvetica,sans-serif"><=
b>Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-tls-tls13-20</b><br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-f=
ont,helvetica neue,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Date: </b></sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:-webkit-system-font,helvetica neue,helvetica,=
sans-serif">April 28, 2017 at 16:49:53 EDT<br></span></div><div style=3D"ma=
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amily:-webkit-system-font,helvetica neue,helvetica,sans-serif">&lt;<a href=
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ns-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:-we=
bkit-system-font,helvetica neue,helvetica,sans-serif">Sean Turner &lt;<a hr=
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ref=3D"mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">iesg-secretary@iet=
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sn3rd.com</a><br></span></div><br><div><div>Sean Turner has requested publi=
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In preparing the JDFMAP document as a Best Practices document, I intended t=
o update references  to what is in the PWG 3D Print Job Ticket document. Ho=
wever, the latter has the following reference:

[ISO10646]	"Information technology -- Universal Coded Character Set (UCS)",=
 ISO/IEC 10646:2011

While the 2015 version of JDFMAP has:
[ISO10646]	ISO, "Information technology -- Universal Coded Character Set (U=
CS)", ISO/IEC 10646:2012, 2012, http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue=
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Which is more appropriate for each document?
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Bill,

It looks like the current version is ISO/IEC 10646:2014, published in September 2014.  The link can be:

    http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html

since 10646 is freely available...

(and I'll update the PJT3D spec...)


> On Apr 30, 2017, at 6:35 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote:
> 
>  
> In preparing the JDFMAP document as a Best Practices document, I intended to update references  to what is in the PWG 3D Print Job Ticket document. However, the latter has the following reference:
>  
> [ISO10646]          "Information technology -- Universal Coded Character Set (UCS)", ISO/IEC 10646:2011
>  
> While the 2015 version of JDFMAP has:
> [ISO10646]                          ISO, "Information technology -- Universal Coded Character Set (UCS)", ISO/IEC 10646:2012, 2012, http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_ics.htm
> Which is more appropriate for each document?
> Thanks, Bill W. 
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