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Subject: Re: [IPP] Sending an attribute with "no-value" in a request (from ipptool or otherwise) - is this OK?
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Thanks! Submitted:

https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/issues/37 =
<https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/issues/37>

Smith



> On May 31, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
>=20
> Smith,
>=20
> ipptool doesn't currently support out-of-band values in tests, but =
probably should.  Please file a bug and I'll make it happen...
>=20
>=20
>> On May 31, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hello,
>>=20
>> I have a colleague who was trying to create an ipptool .test file =
that contained the following directive for the request:
>>=20
>>   ATTR no-value finishings-col fakeval
>>=20
>> or
>>=20
>>   ATTR no-value finishings-col
>>=20
>> The ipptool tool currently doesn't support this. Is this incorrect =
from an IPP point of view, or a "defect" in ipptool? I tried to see if =
there was a place in RFC 8010 / RFC 8011 that forbade this but didn't =
find anything definitive, so I' wasn't sure.
>>=20
>> Thoughts?
>>=20
>> Smith
>>=20
>> /**
>>   Smith Kennedy
>>   Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>   Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>>   Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>   HP Inc.
>> */
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> _______________________________________________
>> ipp mailing list
>> ipp@pwg.org
>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>=20
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>=20


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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Thanks! Submitted:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/issues/37" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/issues/37</a><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>

<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 31, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Michael Sweet &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" class=3D"">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Smith,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">ipptool doesn't currently =
support out-of-band values in tests, but probably should. &nbsp;Please =
file a bug and I'll make it happen...<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On May 31, 2017, at 2:26 =
PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have a colleague who =
was trying to create an ipptool .test file that contained the following =
directive for the request:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;ATTR no-value finishings-col fakeval<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">or<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;ATTR no-value =
finishings-col<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The ipptool tool currently =
doesn't support this. Is this incorrect from an IPP point of view, or a =
"defect" in ipptool? I tried to see if there was a place in RFC 8010 / =
RFC 8011 that forbade this but didn't find anything definitive, so I' =
wasn't sure.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thoughts?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Smith Kennedy<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Wireless Architect =
- Client Software - IPG-PPS<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Standards - IEEE =
ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">ipp mailing list<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:ipp@pwg.org" =
class=3D"">ipp@pwg.org</a><br =
class=3D"">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">_________________________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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Greetings,

HP Inc. has tested the changes in this pull request and believe that it =
satisfactorily resolves ippeveselfcert issue #18. We recommend that this =
pull request be accepted and that an IPP Everywhere Self Certification =
1.0 Update 2 be released to the PWG membership. Can we discuss this at =
next week's IPP WG meeting?

> https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/19 =
<https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/19>


Have a good weekend!

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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Smith,

I'd like to look at Issue #36 in the IPP Sample project (regarding ipptool and case-sensitive comparisons of hostnames in URIs) as that particular ipptool fix (if confirmed) should definitely be in the update.  Plus I have libcups updates to copy over...


> On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
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> Greetings,
> 
> HP Inc. has tested the changes in this pull request and believe that it satisfactorily resolves ippeveselfcert issue #18. We recommend that this pull request be accepted and that an IPP Everywhere Self Certification 1.0 Update 2 be released to the PWG membership. Can we discuss this at next week's IPP WG meeting?
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>> https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/19 <https://github.com/istopwg/ippeveselfcert/pull/19>
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> 
> Have a good weekend!
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> Smith
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- Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf
-- IPP WG call on 05/25/17

(3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
-- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17
-- Quick update, please

(4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf
-- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf
- https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Prin
t3DService.html
-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard

(8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices

(9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf
-- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17
-- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17
-- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017

(10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html
-- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"

(11) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI

- IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br>Our next IPP WG call will be Thu=
rsday 8 June 2017 at<br>12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern<=
br><br><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">NOTE: Please USE the=
 *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below <br></span></div><div><br>-------------=
-----------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>Meeting information<br>-=
-----------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>Topic: IPP W=
G<b><br></b>Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no e=
nd date<br>3:00 pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Standard Time (New York,=
 GMT-05:00)=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 mins<br><span id=3D"gmail-m_333=
8830107618661197gmail-m_-445464294993104641gmail-goog_779462774"></span><br=
>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>WebEx onli=
ne meeting <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(join first, bef=
ore audio bridge)</span><br>------------------------------<wbr>------------=
-------------<br>1. Go to <a href=3D"https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/=
j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573" target=3D"_blank">https://i=
eee-isto.webex.com/ie<wbr>ee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143<wbr>ca01e059a570=
ada91f3573</a><br>2. If requested, enter your name and email address.<br>3.=
 If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123<br>4. C=
lick &quot;Join&quot;.<br><br>------------------------------<wbr>----------=
---------------</div><div>Audio Bridge <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(=
255,255,0)">(join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)</span><br>------=
------------------------<wbr>-------------------------</div><div>Call-in to=
ll-free number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28866%29%20469-3239" value=3D"+=
18664693239" target=3D"_blank">+1 866 469-3239</a><br>Call-in toll number (=
US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28650%29%20429-3300" value=3D"+16504293300" tar=
get=3D"_blank">+1 650 429-3300</a><br>Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a h=
ref=3D"tel:%28408%29%20856-9570" value=3D"+14088569570" target=3D"_blank">+=
1 408 856-9570</a><br><br><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">G=
lobal toll-free call in numbers and other audio options (&quot;Call Me Back=
&quot; or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.<br><br>Unique a=
ttendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed in the WebEx meeting</span><br><br></d=
iv>Agenda:<br>(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review<br>- Guest=
 as minute taker? - Mike can&#39;t attend today<br><br>(2) Approve IPP minu=
tes from previous meetings<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/m=
inutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg=
.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf</a><br>-- IPP W=
G call on 05/25/17<br><br></div><div>(3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Pau=
l)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-20=
17.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/lia=
<wbr>ison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.<wbr>pdf</a></div><div>-- Paul attended A=
MSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17<br></div><div>-- Qu=
ick update, please<br></div><div><br></div><div>(4) Status of Get-User-Prin=
ter-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pw=
g/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.p=
wg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>=
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - TBD<br=
><br>(5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ft=
p.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-2017<wbr>0=
418.pdf</a><br><div>-- IPP WG review on 05/11/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD=
<br><br></div><div>(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)=
<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authenticati=
on.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/ip=
p-authentication<wbr>.pdf</a><br></div><div><div>-- PWG review at Virtual F=
2F on 05/04/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD<br><br></div><div><div>(7) Status=
 of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p=
wg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.<wbr>pd=
f</a><br>- <a href=3D"https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-curre=
nt/Print3DService.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://istopw=
g.github.io/ippr<wbr>egistry/smpjt3d10-current/Prin<wbr>t3DService.html</a>=
<br></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/1=
6/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Stand=
ard<br></div><br></div><div>(8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (I=
ra, Rick)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-2=
0170504.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf<b=
r></a></div><div></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/1=
7 / ends 06/15/17</div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best P=
ractices<br><br></div><div><div>(9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)<br>- <a =
href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-<wb=
r>20170519-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Co=
mmittee appoved 05/25/17<br>-- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections start=
ed 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17<br></div>-- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017<br></=
div><div><br>(10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"h=
ttp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf" target=3D=
"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-<wb=
r>rev.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.h=
tml" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<wbr>ipp/2017/019190.htm=
l</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<wbr>ipp/2017/019191.html</a><br=
>-- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17<br>-- Schedule - P=
rototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in &quot;ippserver&quot;<br><br>(11) =
Next steps<br></div></div><div>- IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:=
30pm US Eastern<br></div><div>-- Ira can&#39;t attend - will be at ESCAR US=
A 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI<br></div><div><div><br>- IPP WG call on =
Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern<br></div><div>-- regular topics<b=
r></div><br>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br><br><div><div class=3D"gmail_sign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Soft=
ware Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - =
Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working =
Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Des=
ignated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<=
br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/b=
lueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<=
/a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/si=
te/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthin=
c</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, M=
I=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais,=
 MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><di=
v style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div><=
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Hi,

I'll be in the middle of the ESCAR USA auto security conference
two weeks from now.  So review of IPP System Service won't be
appropriate.

Paul or Mike - can you run the IPP call 06/22/17?

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>I&#39;ll be in the middle =
of the ESCAR USA auto security conference<br></div>two weeks from now.=C2=
=A0 So review of IPP System Service won&#39;t be<br></div><div>appropriate.=
=C2=A0 <br><br>Paul or Mike - can you run the IPP call 06/22/17?<br><br></d=
iv><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>- Ira<br><br></div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)=
<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundatio=
n Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Cha=
ir - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert =
- IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"=
color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=
=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto=
: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusi=
c@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=
=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=
=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"d=
isplay:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></=
div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Ira,

I can run things that day...

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'll be in the middle of the ESCAR USA auto security conference
> two weeks from now.  So review of IPP System Service won't be
> appropriate.  
> 
> Paul or Mike - can you run the IPP call 06/22/17?
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
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Hi,

Thanks Mike!

Talk to you tomorrow afternoon.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> Ira,
>
> I can run things that day...
>
> > On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'll be in the middle of the ESCAR USA auto security conference
> > two weeks from now.  So review of IPP System Service won't be
> > appropriate.
> >
> > Paul or Mike - can you run the IPP call 06/22/17?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> >
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> > Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> > May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ipp mailing list
> > ipp@pwg.org
> > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Thanks Mike!<br><br><=
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div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - =
TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing=
 WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO =
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nter MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51=
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02,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>=
<br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-00=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael Swee=
t <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>Ira,<br>
<br>
I can run things that day...<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blueroo=
fmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;ll be in the middle of the ESCAR USA auto security conference<br=
>
&gt; two weeks from now.=C2=A0 So review of IPP System Service won&#39;t be=
<br>
&gt; appropriate.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul or Mike - can you run the IPP call 06/22/17?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt; - Ira<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
&gt; Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
&gt; Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
&gt; Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
&gt; Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
&gt; IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>
&gt; Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>blueroofmusic</a><b=
r>
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906-494-2434" value=3D"+19064942434">906-494-2434</a><br>
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Hi Ira,

I have been scheduled into a conflicting meeting this afternoon so I won't b=
e able to call into today's IPP teleconference.

I will plan to give the AMSC/RAPID report at our next meeting.

Best Regards,

/Paul

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at
> 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern
>=20
> NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Meeting information
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Topic: IPP WG
> Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
> 3:00 pm  |  Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)  |  1 hr 30 mins
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca0=
1e059a570ada91f3573
> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
> 4. Click "Join".
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570
>=20
> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" o=
r VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.
>=20
> Unique attendee access code:  Displayed in the WebEx meeting
>=20
> Agenda:
> (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
> - Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today
>=20
> (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pd=
f
> -- IPP WG call on 05/25/17
>=20
> (3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
> -- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17
> -- Quick update, please
>=20
> (4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>=20
> (5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf
> -- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>=20
> (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>=20
> (7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf
> - https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Print3DService.h=
tml
> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17
> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard
>=20
> (8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17
> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices
>=20
> (9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf
> -- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17
> -- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17
> -- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017
>=20
> (10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf
> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html
> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html
> -- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
> -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"
>=20
> (11) Next steps
> - IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
> -- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, M=
I
>=20
> - IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
> -- regular topics
>=20
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>=20
>=20
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Ira,</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSigna=
ture"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I have been scheduled into a c=
onflicting meeting this afternoon so I won't be able to call into today's IP=
P teleconference.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"A=
ppleMailSignature">I will plan to give the AMSC/RAPID report at our next mee=
ting.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature">Best Regards,</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature">/Paul</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from=
 my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>=
Hi,<br><br>Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at<br>12:00-1:3=
0pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern<br><br><span style=3D"background-c=
olor:rgb(255,255,0)">NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below=
 <br></span></div><div><br>------------------------------<wbr>--------------=
-----------<br>Meeting information<br>------------------------------<wbr>---=
----------------------<br>Topic: IPP WG<b><br></b>Every 2 weeks on Thursday,=
 from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date<br>3:00 pm&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&n=
bsp;Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;1 hr=
 30 mins<br><span id=3D"gmail-m_3338830107618661197gmail-m_-4454642949931046=
41gmail-goog_779462774"></span><br>------------------------------<wbr>------=
-------------------<br>WebEx online meeting <span style=3D"background-color:=
rgb(255,255,0)">(join first, before audio bridge)</span><br>----------------=
--------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>1. Go to <a href=3D"https://=
ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573=
" target=3D"_blank">https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ie<wbr>ee-isto/j.php?MTID=3D=
m0359478143<wbr>ca01e059a570ada91f3573</a><br>2. If requested, enter your na=
me and email address.<br>3. If a password is required, enter the meeting pas=
sword: Printing123<br>4. Click "Join".<br><br>------------------------------=
<wbr>-------------------------</div><div>Audio Bridge <span style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)</sp=
an><br>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------</div><di=
v>Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28866%29%20469-3239"=
 value=3D"+18664693239" target=3D"_blank">+1 866 469-3239</a><br>Call-in tol=
l number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28650%29%20429-3300" value=3D"+1650429=
3300" target=3D"_blank">+1 650 429-3300</a><br>Call-in toll number (US/Canad=
a): <a href=3D"tel:%28408%29%20856-9570" value=3D"+14088569570" target=3D"_b=
lank">+1 408 856-9570</a><br><br><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255=
,0)">Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back=
" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.<br><br>Unique attende=
e access code:&nbsp; Displayed in the WebEx meeting</span><br><br></div>Agen=
da:<br>(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review<br>- Guest as minu=
te taker? - Mike can't attend today<br><br>(2) Approve IPP minutes from prev=
ious meetings<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-c=
oncall-minutes-20170525.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip=
p/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf</a><br>-- IPP WG call on 05/25/=
17<br><br></div><div>(3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)<br>- <a href=3D=
"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/lia<wbr>ison/ansi/pwg-r=
apid-may-2017.<wbr>pdf</a></div><div>-- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spok=
e at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17<br></div><div>-- Quick update, please<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>(4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepap=
er (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-user=
op-20170524-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitep=
aper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- PWG review at Virtual F2=
F on 05/04/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - TBD<br><br>(5) Status of IPP Prese=
ts whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepa=
per/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg=
/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-2017<wbr>0418.pdf</a><br><div>-- IPP WG r=
eview on 05/11/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD<br><br></div><div>(6) Status of=
 IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.o=
rg/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://f=
tp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/ipp-authentication<wbr>.pdf</a><br></=
div><div><div>-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17<br></div>-- Schedule -=
 TBD<br><br></div><div><div>(7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)<br>=
- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/w=
d/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.<wbr>pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"https://istopwg.git=
hub.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Print3DService.html" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">https://istopwg.github.io/ippr<wbr>egistry/smpjt3d10-curr=
ent/Prin<wbr>t3DService.html</a><br></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG Last ca=
ll started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal V=
ote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard<br></div><br></div><div>(8) Status of Mapp=
ing of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pu=
b/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/w=
d-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf<br></a></div><div></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG=
 Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17</div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Form=
al Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices<br><br></div><div><div>(9) Status of IPP W=
G Charter (Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-cha=
rter-20170519-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp=
/wd/wd-ipp-charter-<wbr>20170519-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Status - IPP W=
G and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17<br>-- Stable draft - PWG Call f=
or Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17<br></div>-- Schedule - PWG appr=
oval Q2 2017<br></div><div><br>(10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)<=
br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-re=
v.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd/wd-ippsystem=
10-20170509-<wbr>rev.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp=
/2017/019190.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<wbr>ipp/20=
17/019190.html</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/0191=
91.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/<wbr>ipp/2017/019191.=
html</a><br>-- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17<br>-- Sc=
hedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"<br><br>(11) N=
ext steps<br></div></div><div>- IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30=
pm US Eastern<br></div><div>-- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 c=
onference in Ypsilanti, MI<br></div><div><div><br>- IPP WG call on Thu 6 Jul=
y 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern<br></div><div>-- regular topics<br></div><b=
r>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br><br><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Archite=
ct)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundat=
ion Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Ch=
air - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert -=
 IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"=
color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail=
.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; 734=
-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI 49839&nbsp; 906-494-=
2434<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline=
"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div=
><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 14:46:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (8 June 2017)
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Hi,

Since Paul and Smith both have conflicts today, we may have an abbreviated
IPP WG call...

Since I won't be on the next IPP WG call and then Mike will go off to a
cabin in
the woods for 6 weeks, I'd like to do at least high-level review of my May
draft
of IPP System Service and talk about loose ends still to be done.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

> Hi Ira,
>
> I'm at the Wi-Fi Alliance Member Meeting and likely won't be on the call
> today.
>
> Smith
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at
> 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern
>
> NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Meeting information
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Topic: IPP WG
> Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
> 3:00 pm  |  Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)  |  1 hr 30 mins
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143
> ca01e059a570ada91f3573
> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
> 4. Click "Join".
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
> <%28866%29%20469-3239>
> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300>
> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570>
>
> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back"
> or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.
>
> Unique attendee access code:  Displayed in the WebEx meeting
>
> Agenda:
> (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
> - Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today
>
> (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-
> minutes-20170525.pdf
> -- IPP WG call on 05/25/17
>
> (3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
> -- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17
> -- Quick update, please
>
> (4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>
> (5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf
> -- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>
> (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
> -- Schedule - TBD
>
> (7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf
> - https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Prin
> t3DService.html
> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17
> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard
>
> (8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17
> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices
>
> (9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf
> -- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17
> -- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17
> -- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017
>
> (10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf
> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html
> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html
> -- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
> -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"
>
> (11) Next steps
> - IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
> -- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI
>
> - IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
> -- regular topics
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> <(734)%20944-0094>
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> <(906)%20494-2434>
>
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Since =
Paul and Smith both have conflicts today, we may have an abbreviated<br></d=
iv>IPP WG call...<br><br></div>Since I won&#39;t be on the next IPP WG call=
 and then Mike will go off to a cabin in<br></div>the woods for 6 weeks, I&=
#39;d like to do at least high-level review of my May draft<br></div>of IPP=
 System Service and talk about loose ends still to be done.<br><br></div>Ch=
eers,<br></div>- Ira<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all">=
<div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Archit=
ect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Found=
ation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co=
-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Exp=
ert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusi=
c" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnort=
hinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>ma=
ilto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroof=
music@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 481=
76=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=
=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=
=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><d=
iv></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kennedy, Smi=
th (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kenne=
dy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Ira,<=
div><br></div><div>I&#39;m at the Wi-Fi Alliance Member Meeting and likely =
won&#39;t be on the call today.</div><div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font colo=
r=3D"#888888"><br><div>
Smith<br><br><br>

</div>

<br></font></span><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5"><di=
v>On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blueroofm=
usic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</d=
iv><br class=3D"m_-2054331933017439520Apple-interchange-newline"></div></di=
v><div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br>Ou=
r next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at<br>12:00-1:30pm US Pacif=
ic / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern<br><br><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,0)">NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below <br></spa=
n></div><div><br>------------------------------<wbr>-----------------------=
--<br>Meeting information<br>------------------------------<wbr>-----------=
--------------<br>Topic: IPP WG<b><br></b>Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from T=
hursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date<br>3:00 pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A0Ea=
stern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr 30 m=
ins<br><span id=3D"m_-2054331933017439520gmail-m_3338830107618661197gmail-m=
_-445464294993104641gmail-goog_779462774"></span><br>----------------------=
--------<wbr>-------------------------<br>WebEx online meeting <span style=
=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(join first, before audio bridge)</spa=
n><br>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<br>1. Go=
 to <a href=3D"https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm03594781=
43ca01e059a570ada91f3573" target=3D"_blank">https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ie<=
wbr>ee-isto/j.php?MTID=3Dm0359478143<wbr>ca01e059a570ada91f3573</a><br>2. I=
f requested, enter your name and email address.<br>3. If a password is requ=
ired, enter the meeting password: Printing123<br>4. Click &quot;Join&quot;.=
<br><br>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------</div><=
div>Audio Bridge <span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">(join seco=
nd w/ unique access code from WebEx)</span><br>----------------------------=
--<wbr>-------------------------</div><div>Call-in toll-free number (US/Can=
ada): <a href=3D"tel:%28866%29%20469-3239" value=3D"+18664693239" target=3D=
"_blank">+1 866 469-3239</a><br>Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D=
"tel:%28650%29%20429-3300" value=3D"+16504293300" target=3D"_blank">+1 650 =
429-3300</a><br>Call-in toll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28408%29%2=
0856-9570" value=3D"+14088569570" target=3D"_blank">+1 408 856-9570</a><br>=
<br><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Global toll-free call i=
n numbers and other audio options (&quot;Call Me Back&quot; or VoIP) are li=
sted once you join the WebEx meeting.<br><br>Unique attendee access code:=
=C2=A0 Displayed in the WebEx meeting</span><br><br></div>Agenda:<br>(1) PW=
G IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review<br>- Guest as minute taker? - =
Mike can&#39;t attend today<br><br>(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous me=
etings<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall=
-minutes-20170525.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ip=
p/minutes/ippv2-concall-<wbr>minutes-20170525.pdf</a><br>-- IPP WG call on =
05/25/17<br><br></div><div>(3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)<br>- <a=
 href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/lia<wbr>ison/=
ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.p<wbr>df</a></div><div>-- Paul attended AMSC sessio=
ns and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17<br></div><div>-- Quick update=
, please<br></div><div><br></div><div>(4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attrib=
utes whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whit=
epaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub=
/pwg/<wbr>ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-<wbr>20170524-rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>=
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - TBD<br=
><br>(5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ft=
p.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-2017<wbr>0=
418.pdf</a><br><div>-- IPP WG review on 05/11/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD=
<br><br></div><div>(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)=
<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authenticati=
on.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepaper/ip=
p-authentication<wbr>.pdf</a><br></div><div><div>-- PWG review at Virtual F=
2F on 05/04/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD<br><br></div><div><div>(7) Status=
 of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p=
wg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.<wbr>pd=
f</a><br>- <a href=3D"https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-curre=
nt/Print3DService.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://istopw=
g.github.io/ippr<wbr>egistry/smpjt3d10-current/Prin<wbr>t3DService.html</a>=
<br></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/1=
6/17<br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Stand=
ard<br></div><br></div><div>(8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (I=
ra, Rick)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-2=
0170504.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>sm3/wd/wd-sm=
jdfmap10-20170504.<wbr>pdf<br></a></div><div></div><div>-- Stable draft - P=
WG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17</div><div>-- Schedule - PWG F=
ormal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices<br><br></div><div><div>(9) Status of I=
PP WG Charter (Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ip=
p-charter-20170519-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ip=
p<wbr>/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-<wbr>rev.pdf</a><br></div><div>-- Status =
- IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17<br>-- Stable draft - P=
WG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17<br></div>-- Schedule =
- PWG approval Q2 2017<br></div><div><br>(10) Review of IPP System Service =
(Ira/Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10=
-20170509-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/wd=
/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-re<wbr>v.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.or=
g/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archi=
ves/ip<wbr>p/2017/019190.html</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archiv=
es/ipp/2017/019191.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.pwg.org/archives/ip<w=
br>p/2017/019191.html</a><br>-- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on=
 05/03/17<br>-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in &quot;=
ippserver&quot;<br><br>(11) Next steps<br></div></div><div>- IPP WG call on=
 Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern<br></div><div>-- Ira can&#39;t =
attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI<br></div><di=
v><div><br>- IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern<br></=
div><div>-- regular topics<br></div><br>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br><br><=
div><div class=3D"m_-2054331933017439520gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Cha=
ir - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Pri=
nting WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-=
ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp=
; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(=
51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_=
blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"c=
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get=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>highnorthinc</a><br>mailto=
: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusi=
c@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(734)%20944-0094" value=3D"+17349440094" target=3D"_b=
lank">734-944-0094</a><br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=
=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(906)%20494-2434" value=3D"+19064942434" target=3D"_b=
lank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div styl=
e=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><=
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Ira,

FWIW my vacation will probably not start right away in July due to delays getting the final inspections and work done at the cottage...  Playing things by ear...

> On Jun 8, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Since Paul and Smith both have conflicts today, we may have an abbreviated
> IPP WG call...
> 
> Since I won't be on the next IPP WG call and then Mike will go off to a cabin in
> the woods for 6 weeks, I'd like to do at least high-level review of my May draft
> of IPP System Service and talk about loose ends still to be done.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
> Hi Ira,
> 
> I'm at the Wi-Fi Alliance Member Meeting and likely won't be on the call today.
> 
> Smith
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at
>> 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern
>> 
>> NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Meeting information
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Topic: IPP WG
>> Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
>> 3:00 pm  |  Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)  |  1 hr 30 mins
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573
>> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
>> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
>> 4. Click "Join".
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
>> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
>> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570
>> 
>> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.
>> 
>> Unique attendee access code:  Displayed in the WebEx meeting
>> 
>> Agenda:
>> (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
>> - Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today
>> 
>> (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf
>> -- IPP WG call on 05/25/17
>> 
>> (3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
>> -- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17
>> -- Quick update, please
>> 
>> (4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
>> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
>> -- Schedule - TBD
>> 
>> (5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf
>> -- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
>> -- Schedule - TBD
>> 
>> (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
>> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
>> -- Schedule - TBD
>> 
>> (7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf
>> - https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Print3DService.html
>> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17
>> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard
>> 
>> (8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
>> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17
>> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices
>> 
>> (9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf
>> -- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17
>> -- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17
>> -- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017
>> 
>> (10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf
>> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html
>> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html
>> -- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
>> -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"
>> 
>> (11) Next steps
>> - IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
>> -- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI
>> 
>> - IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
>> -- regular topics
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>> 
>> 
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> 
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All,

As there was only Ira and I on the call today, we've canceled today's meeting.  We will try again in two weeks on June 22.


> On Jun 8, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> Ira,
> 
> FWIW my vacation will probably not start right away in July due to delays getting the final inspections and work done at the cottage...  Playing things by ear...
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Since Paul and Smith both have conflicts today, we may have an abbreviated
>> IPP WG call...
>> 
>> Since I won't be on the next IPP WG call and then Mike will go off to a cabin in
>> the woods for 6 weeks, I'd like to do at least high-level review of my May draft
>> of IPP System Service and talk about loose ends still to be done.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>> 
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ira,
>> 
>> I'm at the Wi-Fi Alliance Member Meeting and likely won't be on the call today.
>> 
>> Smith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 8 June 2017 at
>>> 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern
>>> 
>>> NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below 
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Meeting information
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Topic: IPP WG
>>> Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
>>> 3:00 pm  |  Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)  |  1 hr 30 mins
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573
>>> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.
>>> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123
>>> 4. Click "Join".
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx)
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
>>> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
>>> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570
>>> 
>>> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting.
>>> 
>>> Unique attendee access code:  Displayed in the WebEx meeting
>>> 
>>> Agenda:
>>> (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
>>> - Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today
>>> 
>>> (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf
>>> -- IPP WG call on 05/25/17
>>> 
>>> (3) Status of AMSC liaison w/ PWG (Paul)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
>>> -- Paul attended AMSC sessions and spoke at RAPID on 05/09/17 to 05/10/17
>>> -- Quick update, please
>>> 
>>> (4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
>>> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
>>> -- Schedule - TBD
>>> 
>>> (5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170418.pdf
>>> -- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
>>> -- Schedule - TBD
>>> 
>>> (6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
>>> -- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
>>> -- Schedule - TBD
>>> 
>>> (7) Status of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170504-rev.pdf
>>> - https://istopwg.github.io/ippregistry/smpjt3d10-current/Print3DService.html
>>> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/25/17 / ends 06/16/17
>>> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard
>>> 
>>> (8) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
>>> -- Stable draft - PWG Last call started 05/18/17 / ends 06/15/17
>>> -- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices
>>> 
>>> (9) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipp-charter-20170519-rev.pdf
>>> -- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee appoved 05/25/17
>>> -- Stable draft - PWG Call for Objections started 05/25/17 ends 06/09/17
>>> -- Schedule - PWG approval Q2 2017
>>> 
>>> (10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
>>> - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf
>>> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019190.html
>>> - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019191.html
>>> -- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
>>> -- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"
>>> 
>>> (11) Next steps
>>> - IPP WG call on Thu 22 June 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
>>> -- Ira can't attend - will be at ESCAR USA 2017 conference in Ypsilanti, MI
>>> 
>>> - IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
>>> -- regular topics
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> - Ira
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ipp mailing list
>>> ipp@pwg.org
>>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp
> 
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
> 
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http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170509-rev.pdf<br =
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MI<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">- IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at =
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class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D"">- Ira<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br =
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class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<br =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc<br class=3D"">mailto:=
 blueroofmusic@gmail.com<br class=3D"">Jan-April: 579 Park Place =
&nbsp;Saline, MI &nbsp;48176 &nbsp;734-944-0094<br class=3D"">May-Dec: =
PO Box 221 &nbsp;Grand Marais, MI 49839 &nbsp;906-494-2434<br =
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Greetings,

I have just posted an updated draft of the IPP Presets whitepaper. I  =
don't know that we will be reviewing it in the teleconferences anytime =
soon but if you have feedback on it before teleconference review, I =
would welcome it.

	=
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609.pdf
	=
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609.odt
	=
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609-rev.pdf
	=
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609-rev.odt

Cheers!

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
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All,

I spent some time today assembling the IANA considerations for this spec and have some feedback for discussion:

- All of the printer-id/ids attributes have a range of 1:MAX, but the originally proposed limits were 1:65535 since the discovery protocols printer-id is getting used with can only provide 16 bits of information.  We should either a) change the range of supported values to 1:65535 or b) clearly document these limits (like we have for printer-device-id and other attributes that sometimes exceed the range supported by particular protocols/interfaces) so that implementors can plan accordingly.  (I am somewhat in favor of approach B since there are some existing IPP solutions that support more than 64k of print queues...)

- "requesting-user-vcard (1setOf text(1023))" and "system-device-id (text(1023))" can just be MAX (MAX = 1023 for text values) or have no limit specified at all.

- "printer-creation-attributes-supported", "resource-settable-attributes-supported", "system-mandatory-attributes-supported", and "system-settable-attributes-supported" should all be "1setOf keyword" (no type2) since we don't register values for these kinds of keyword attributes (which refer to registered or vendor-extension attribute names).

- The "system-configured-resources" collection does not include "resource-state-reasons", which would seem to be important.

- The "ipp-features-supported" attribute should be added to the System Description attributes.

- Why is the "system-state-message" attribute a 1setOf?


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Hi Brian,

Thanks!

Cheers,
- Ira

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> Brian Smithson
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Brian,<br><br></div>Thanks!<br><br></div=
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l"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><=
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hitect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Fo=
undation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br=
>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated =
Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofm=
usic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><=
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orthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br=
>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bluer=
oofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 =
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Good Afternoon,

I am having trouble finding binary downloads.

This post says they are released officially somewhere:
https://www.cups.org/blog/2011-09-28-new-standalone-ipptool-binaries-released.html

This post says there is a Windows binary available:
http://apple.github.io/cups/blog/2013-01-31-ipptool-january-2013-release.html

And this post says again there is an updated windows binary:
https://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2014/017935.html

But the page they link to says there are no binaries and to google for
them.  A link to the appropriate repo would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Gordon

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Good Afternoon,<br><br>=
</div>I am having trouble finding binary downloads.<br><br></div>This post =
says they are released officially somewhere: <a href=3D"https://www.cups.or=
g/blog/2011-09-28-new-standalone-ipptool-binaries-released.html">https://ww=
w.cups.org/blog/2011-09-28-new-standalone-ipptool-binaries-released.html</a=
><br><br></div>This post says there is a Windows binary available: <a href=
=3D"http://apple.github.io/cups/blog/2013-01-31-ipptool-january-2013-releas=
e.html">http://apple.github.io/cups/blog/2013-01-31-ipptool-january-2013-re=
lease.html</a><br><br></div>And this post says again there is an updated wi=
ndows binary: <a href=3D"https://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2014/017935.html"=
>https://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2014/017935.html</a><br><br></div>But the=
 page they link to says there are no binaries and to google for them.=C2=A0=
 A link to the appropriate repo would be appreciated.<br><br></div>Thanks,<=
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Gordon,

Windows binaries are no longer available from cups.org.  You can download the source code to build your own or use the tools supplied with the IPP Everywhere Self-Certification tools, available here:

    http://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html

At some point in the future (when we release a 1.0 snapshot) I plan on posting Windows, macOS, and Linux binaries (the latter probably as a snap package) of the IPP Sample code which is hosted here:

    https://istopwg.github.io/ippsample

(but to be clear, there are no binaries there yet, either...)


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:50 AM, gordon <wgordonw1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon,
> 
> I am having trouble finding binary downloads.
> 
> This post says they are released officially somewhere: https://www.cups.org/blog/2011-09-28-new-standalone-ipptool-binaries-released.html
> 
> This post says there is a Windows binary available: http://apple.github.io/cups/blog/2013-01-31-ipptool-january-2013-release.html
> 
> And this post says again there is an updated windows binary: https://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2014/017935.html
> 
> But the page they link to says there are no binaries and to google for them.  A link to the appropriate repo would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gordon
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Hi,

This Chromium work in W3C looks interesting and useful - read on.

Cheers,
- Ira


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@chromium.org>
Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 3:09 PM
Subject: [dispatch] A packaging format for the web
To: dispatch@ietf.org


Hello Dispatch,

TL;DR: We're bringing the work at https://github.com/WICG/webpackage
to the IETF.

People would like to use content offline and in other situations where
there isn=E2=80=99t a direct connection to the server where the content
originates. However, it's difficult to distribute and verify the
authenticity of applications and content without a connection to the
network. The W3C has addressed running applications offline with
Service Workers (https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/), but not
the problem of distribution.

* People with expensive or intermittent internet connections are used
to sharing files via P2P links and shared SD cards. They should be
able to install web applications they received this way. Installing a
web application requires a TLS-type guarantee that it came from and
can use data owned by a particular origin.

* Verification of the origin of the content isn't always necessary.
For example, users currently share screenshots and MHTML documents
with their peers, with no guarantee that the shared content is
authentic. However, these formats have low fidelity (screenshots)
and/or aren't interoperable (MHTML). We'd like an interoperable format
that lets both publishers and readers package such content for use in
an untrusted mode.

* CDNs want to re-publish other origins' content so readers can access
it more quickly or more privately. Currently, to attribute that
content to the original origin, they need the full ability to publish
arbitrary content under that origin's name. There should be a way to
let them attribute only the exact content that the original origin
published.

We think a packaging format can help satisfy these use cases. This
format likely also has other uses, and we should try to support such
use cases as long as they don't compromise the offline use cases. For
example, packages may help optimize transferring online content or let
third-parties assert properties of the package via cross-signatures.

The Chromium project has started work on this sort of packaging format
within the W3C's WICG, at https://github.com/WICG/webpackage. We have
a list of use cases, some goals and explicit non-goals, and a draft
for the format itself. We believe the IETF is the ideal place to
standardize the format, and in parallel we'll specify within the W3C
how browsers should load it. I'll be writing an initial internet-draft
in the next couple weeks, in time to bring it to IETF 99.

We'd appreciate being directed to the appropriate place within the
IETF to do this work.

Thanks,
Jeffrey Yasskin

P.S. I'll be on vacation from June 16-23; I'll reply intermittently
during that time but mostly once I get back.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>This Chromium work in W3C =
looks interesting and useful - read on.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira=
<br><div><div><div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>F=
rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Jeffrey Yasskin</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jyasskin@chromium.org">jyasskin@chromium.org</a>&gt;</s=
pan><br>Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 3:09 PM<br>Subject: [dispatch] A packagi=
ng format for the web<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:dispatch@ietf.org">dispatch@=
ietf.org</a><br><br><br>Hello Dispatch,<br>
<br>
TL;DR: We&#39;re bringing the work at <a href=3D"https://github.com/WICG/we=
bpackage" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/WICG/<wbr=
>webpackage</a><br>
to the IETF.<br>
<br>
People would like to use content offline and in other situations where<br>
there isn=E2=80=99t a direct connection to the server where the content<br>
originates. However, it&#39;s difficult to distribute and verify the<br>
authenticity of applications and content without a connection to the<br>
network. The W3C has addressed running applications offline with<br>
Service Workers (<a href=3D"https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.w3.org/TR/<wbr>service-worker=
s-1/</a>), but not<br>
the problem of distribution.<br>
<br>
* People with expensive or intermittent internet connections are used<br>
to sharing files via P2P links and shared SD cards. They should be<br>
able to install web applications they received this way. Installing a<br>
web application requires a TLS-type guarantee that it came from and<br>
can use data owned by a particular origin.<br>
<br>
* Verification of the origin of the content isn&#39;t always necessary.<br>
For example, users currently share screenshots and MHTML documents<br>
with their peers, with no guarantee that the shared content is<br>
authentic. However, these formats have low fidelity (screenshots)<br>
and/or aren&#39;t interoperable (MHTML). We&#39;d like an interoperable for=
mat<br>
that lets both publishers and readers package such content for use in<br>
an untrusted mode.<br>
<br>
* CDNs want to re-publish other origins&#39; content so readers can access<=
br>
it more quickly or more privately. Currently, to attribute that<br>
content to the original origin, they need the full ability to publish<br>
arbitrary content under that origin&#39;s name. There should be a way to<br=
>
let them attribute only the exact content that the original origin<br>
published.<br>
<br>
We think a packaging format can help satisfy these use cases. This<br>
format likely also has other uses, and we should try to support such<br>
use cases as long as they don&#39;t compromise the offline use cases. For<b=
r>
example, packages may help optimize transferring online content or let<br>
third-parties assert properties of the package via cross-signatures.<br>
<br>
The Chromium project has started work on this sort of packaging format<br>
within the W3C&#39;s WICG, at <a href=3D"https://github.com/WICG/webpackage=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/WICG/<wbr>webpack=
age</a>. We have<br>
a list of use cases, some goals and explicit non-goals, and a draft<br>
for the format itself. We believe the IETF is the ideal place to<br>
standardize the format, and in parallel we&#39;ll specify within the W3C<br=
>
how browsers should load it. I&#39;ll be writing an initial internet-draft<=
br>
in the next couple weeks, in time to bring it to IETF 99.<br>
<br>
We&#39;d appreciate being directed to the appropriate place within the<br>
IETF to do this work.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jeffrey Yasskin<br>
<br>
P.S. I&#39;ll be on vacation from June 16-23; I&#39;ll reply intermittently=
<br>
during that time but mostly once I get back.<br>
<br>
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Hi Mike,

Thanks very much for the review and comments.  Inline in BLUE

Cheers,
- Ira


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> I spent some time today assembling the IANA considerations for this spec
> and have some feedback for discussion:
>
> - All of the printer-id/ids attributes have a range of 1:MAX, but the
> originally proposed limits were 1:65535 since the discovery protocols
> printer-id is getting used with can only provide 16 bits of information.
> We should either a) change the range of supported values to 1:65535 or b)
> clearly document these limits (like we have for printer-device-id and other
> attributes that sometimes exceed the range supported by particular
> protocols/interfaces) so that implementors can plan accordingly.  (I am
> somewhat in favor of approach B since there are some existing IPP solutions
> that support more than 64k of print queues...)
>

ira - my mistake - I'll correct to the 16-bit range

>
> - "requesting-user-vcard (1setOf text(1023))" and "system-device-id
> (text(1023))" can just be MAX (MAX = 1023 for text values) or have no limit
> specified at all



> .
>
ira - agree - will fix to MAX (I prefer explict limits)

>
> - "printer-creation-attributes-supported", "resource-settable-attributes-supported",
> "system-mandatory-attributes-supported", and "system-settable-attributes-supported"
> should all be "1setOf keyword" (no type2) since we don't register values
> for these kinds of keyword attributes (which refer to registered or
> vendor-extension attribute names).
>

ira - don't understand what you mean by "(no type2)" - do you mean the
actual
type should be "1setOf type1 keyword" or that even type3 (deprecated) were
legal - in the IANA Registry, job-creation-attributes-supported is has
actual type
"1setOf type2 keyword" (i.e., an explicit type2) - is that one wrong?

>
> - The "system-configured-resources" collection does not include
> "resource-state-reasons", which would seem to be important.
>

ira - my mistake - will fix.

>
> - The "ipp-features-supported" attribute should be added to the System
> Description attributes.
>

ira - my mistake - will fix.

>
> - Why is the "system-state-message" attribute a 1setOf?
>

ira - my mistake - I followed Pete's System Service (5108.06) where it's a
list.
I'll change it to single-valued like Printer and other objects in IPP.

>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div>Thanks very much for =
the review and comments.=C2=A0 Inline in <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"=
>BLUE</span><br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><div><div><div><div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=
=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><d=
iv></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Michael Swee=
t <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex">All,<br>
<br>
I spent some time today assembling the IANA considerations for this spec an=
d have some feedback for discussion:<br>
<br>
- All of the printer-id/ids attributes have a range of 1:MAX, but the origi=
nally proposed limits were 1:65535 since the discovery protocols printer-id=
 is getting used with can only provide 16 bits of information.=C2=A0 We sho=
uld either a) change the range of supported values to 1:65535 or b) clearly=
 document these limits (like we have for printer-device-id and other attrib=
utes that sometimes exceed the range supported by particular protocols/inte=
rfaces) so that implementors can plan accordingly.=C2=A0 (I am somewhat in =
favor of approach B since there are some existing IPP solutions that suppor=
t more than 64k of print queues...)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - my mistake - I&#39;ll correct to the =
16-bit range</span><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">
<br>
- &quot;requesting-user-vcard (1setOf text(1023))&quot; and &quot;system-de=
vice-id (text(1023))&quot; can just be MAX (MAX =3D 1023 for text values) o=
r have no limit specified at all</blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">.<br></blockquote><div><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - agree - will fix to MAX (I prefer explict limits)=
</span> <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
- &quot;printer-creation-attributes-<wbr>supported&quot;, &quot;resource-se=
ttable-attributes-<wbr>supported&quot;, &quot;system-mandatory-attributes-<=
wbr>supported&quot;, and &quot;system-settable-attributes-<wbr>supported&qu=
ot; should all be &quot;1setOf keyword&quot; (no type2) since we don&#39;t =
register values for these kinds of keyword attributes (which refer to regis=
tered or vendor-extension attribute names).<br></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - don&#39;t understand what you=
 mean by &quot;(no type2)&quot; - do you mean the actual<br></span></div><d=
iv><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">type should be &quot;1setOf type1 key=
word&quot; or that even type3 (deprecated) were<br></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">legal - in the IANA Registry, job-creation-att=
ributes-supported is has actual type<br></span></div><div><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(0,0,255)">&quot;1setOf type2 keyword&quot; (i.e., an explicit type2=
) - is that one wrong?</span><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<br>
- The &quot;system-configured-resources&quot; collection does not include &=
quot;resource-state-reasons&quot;, which would seem to be important.<br></b=
lockquote><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - my mistake - will fix.</span> <br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
- The &quot;ipp-features-supported&quot; attribute should be added to the S=
ystem Description attributes.<br></blockquote><div><br><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - my mistake - will fix.</span></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
- Why is the &quot;system-state-message&quot; attribute a 1setOf?<br></bloc=
kquote><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)">ira - my mistake - I followed Pete&#39;s Syste=
m Service (5108.06) where it&#39;s a list.<br>I&#39;ll change it to single-=
valued like Printer and other objects in IPP.</span> <br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
______________________________<wbr>___________________________<br>
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Ira,

> On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> - "printer-creation-attributes-supported", "resource-settable-attributes-supported", "system-mandatory-attributes-supported", and "system-settable-attributes-supported" should all be "1setOf keyword" (no type2) since we don't register values for these kinds of keyword attributes (which refer to registered or vendor-extension attribute names).
> 
> ira - don't understand what you mean by "(no type2)" - do you mean the actual
> type should be "1setOf type1 keyword" or that even type3 (deprecated) were
> legal - in the IANA Registry, job-creation-attributes-supported is has actual type
> "1setOf type2 keyword" (i.e., an explicit type2) - is that one wrong?

No, just:

    printer-creation-attributes-supported (1setOf keyword)
    resource-settable-attributes-supported (1setOf keyword)
    etc.

And yes the registry is wrong (I've actually fixed a few of them before, looks like I missed that one).

The issue is that by marking it as "type1" or "type2" then we are signing up for maintaining a registry of values; in the past some have just used:

    job-foo-supported (1setOf type2 keyword)
      < any Job Template attribute >

some have listed the names explicitly, and some list *both* - we haven't been consistent.

Because attribute and member names use the keyword syntax, and since these attributes list attribute or member names, they don't need explicit registration unless we want to include the attribute semantics ("list of Object Name attributes") in the registry...

My preference is to simplify the registry where possible, and in doing so I get to remove special-casing from the IPP-to-SM generator... :)  Another bonus is that software the might validate the values of those attributes against the registry will continue to work in the presence of unregistered vendor values.

Alternately I'd like to normalize all of these attributes and their registrations so that a) we are consistent and b) the IPP-to-SM generator can generate something more useful.

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Hi Mike,

Thanks - I figured out your rationale after I sent that reply.

FYI - when I looked in my local copy of most recent IANA IPP Registry
updates today, *all* of the existing "xxx-attributes-supported" had an
infix of "type 2", so we need to globally check for and fix in the next
IANA update.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> Ira,
>
> > On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ...
> > - "printer-creation-attributes-supported",
> "resource-settable-attributes-supported", "system-mandatory-attributes-supported",
> and "system-settable-attributes-supported" should all be "1setOf keyword"
> (no type2) since we don't register values for these kinds of keyword
> attributes (which refer to registered or vendor-extension attribute names).
> >
> > ira - don't understand what you mean by "(no type2)" - do you mean the
> actual
> > type should be "1setOf type1 keyword" or that even type3 (deprecated)
> were
> > legal - in the IANA Registry, job-creation-attributes-supported is has
> actual type
> > "1setOf type2 keyword" (i.e., an explicit type2) - is that one wrong?
>
> No, just:
>
>     printer-creation-attributes-supported (1setOf keyword)
>     resource-settable-attributes-supported (1setOf keyword)
>     etc.
>
> And yes the registry is wrong (I've actually fixed a few of them before,
> looks like I missed that one).
>
> The issue is that by marking it as "type1" or "type2" then we are signing
> up for maintaining a registry of values; in the past some have just used:
>
>     job-foo-supported (1setOf type2 keyword)
>       < any Job Template attribute >
>
> some have listed the names explicitly, and some list *both* - we haven't
> been consistent.
>
> Because attribute and member names use the keyword syntax, and since these
> attributes list attribute or member names, they don't need explicit
> registration unless we want to include the attribute semantics ("list of
> Object Name attributes") in the registry...
>
> My preference is to simplify the registry where possible, and in doing so
> I get to remove special-casing from the IPP-to-SM generator... :)  Another
> bonus is that software the might validate the values of those attributes
> against the registry will continue to work in the presence of unregistered
> vendor values.
>
> Alternately I'd like to normalize all of these attributes and their
> registrations so that a) we are consistent and b) the IPP-to-SM generator
> can generate something more useful.
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div>T=
hanks - I figured out your rationale after I sent that reply.<br><br></div>=
FYI - when I looked in my local copy of most recent IANA IPP Registry<br></=
div>updates today, *all* of the existing &quot;xxx-attributes-supported&quo=
t; had an<br></div>infix of &quot;type 2&quot;, so we need to globally chec=
k for and fix in the next<br></div>IANA update.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></d=
iv>- Ira<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-C=
hair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open P=
rinting WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEE=
E-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &a=
mp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rg=
b(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D=
"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=
=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.=
com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Michael Swe=
et <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:msweet@apple.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">msweet@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">Ira,<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jun 16, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bluero=
ofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; ...<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; - &quot;printer-creation-attributes-<wbr>supported&qu=
ot;, &quot;resource-settable-attributes-<wbr>supported&quot;, &quot;system-=
mandatory-attributes-<wbr>supported&quot;, and &quot;system-settable-attrib=
utes-<wbr>supported&quot; should all be &quot;1setOf keyword&quot; (no type=
2) since we don&#39;t register values for these kinds of keyword attributes=
 (which refer to registered or vendor-extension attribute names).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ira - don&#39;t understand what you mean by &quot;(no type2)&quot; - d=
o you mean the actual<br>
&gt; type should be &quot;1setOf type1 keyword&quot; or that even type3 (de=
precated) were<br>
&gt; legal - in the IANA Registry, job-creation-attributes-<wbr>supported i=
s has actual type<br>
&gt; &quot;1setOf type2 keyword&quot; (i.e., an explicit type2) - is that o=
ne wrong?<br>
<br>
</span>No, just:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 printer-creation-attributes-<wbr>supported (1setOf keyword)<b=
r>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 resource-settable-attributes-<wbr>supported (1setOf keyword)<=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 etc.<br>
<br>
And yes the registry is wrong (I&#39;ve actually fixed a few of them before=
, looks like I missed that one).<br>
<br>
The issue is that by marking it as &quot;type1&quot; or &quot;type2&quot; t=
hen we are signing up for maintaining a registry of values; in the past som=
e have just used:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 job-foo-supported (1setOf type2 keyword)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &lt; any Job Template attribute &gt;<br>
<br>
some have listed the names explicitly, and some list *both* - we haven&#39;=
t been consistent.<br>
<br>
Because attribute and member names use the keyword syntax, and since these =
attributes list attribute or member names, they don&#39;t need explicit reg=
istration unless we want to include the attribute semantics (&quot;list of =
Object Name attributes&quot;) in the registry...<br>
<br>
My preference is to simplify the registry where possible, and in doing so I=
 get to remove special-casing from the IPP-to-SM generator... :)=C2=A0 Anot=
her bonus is that software the might validate the values of those attribute=
s against the registry will continue to work in the presence of unregistere=
d vendor values.<br>
<br>
Alternately I&#39;d like to normalize all of these attributes and their reg=
istrations so that a) we are consistent and b) the IPP-to-SM generator can =
generate something more useful.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
______________________________<wbr>___________________________<br>
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer<br>
<br>
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Hi,

Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.
Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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Hi Ira,

I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other week starting on =
June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me know.

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.
> Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.
>=20
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>=20
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic =
<http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc =
<http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
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class=3D"">Hi Ira,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other week starting on =
June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me know.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week =
is canceled.<br class=3D""></div>Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our =
usual time.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Cheers,<br =
class=3D""></div>- Ira<br class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br class=3D"">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br =
class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=3D""><a=
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href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br =
class=3D"">mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Jan-April: 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; =
734-944-0094<br class=3D"">May-Dec: PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI =
49839&nbsp; 906-494-2434<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
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Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG schedule - moved to next week (06/29/17)
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Hi Smith,

I suggest that the IPP WebEx meeting should be scheduled for EVERY
week, so that we can use the WebEx in the needed weeks.

In this instance, Mike and I just had a thread that tentatively ended up
with an out-of-cycle June 29 followed by a couple of in-cycles July 6
and July 20 for IPP WG calls.

Those dates (July 6 and July 20) are opposite to the weeks of the
primary SAE Vehicle Security calls cycle for the last 5 years (i.e.,
more convenient for Ira, but probably irrelevant from most others).

Tricky.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

> Hi Ira,
>
> I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other week starting on
> June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me know.
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum
> / USB IF
>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>     HP Inc.
> */
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.
> Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> <(734)%20944-0094>
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> <(906)%20494-2434>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Smith,<br>=
<br></div>I suggest that the IPP WebEx meeting should be scheduled for EVER=
Y <br>week, so that we can use the WebEx in the needed weeks.<br><br></div>=
In this instance, Mike and I just had a thread that tentatively ended up<br=
></div>with an out-of-cycle June 29 followed by a couple of in-cycles July =
6<br></div>and July 20 for IPP WG calls.<br><br></div>Those dates (July 6 a=
nd July 20) are opposite to the weeks of the<br></div>primary SAE Vehicle S=
ecurity calls cycle for the last 5 years (i.e., <br>more convenient for Ira=
, but probably irrelevant from most others).<br><br></div>Tricky.<br><br></=
div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signatu=
re" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted M=
obility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secret=
ary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet =
Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>B=
lue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=
=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://si=
tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:bluero=
ofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-Apr=
il: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-D=
ec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div =
style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div sty=
le=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kennedy, Sm=
ith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kenn=
edy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Ira,=
<div><br></div><div>I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other=
 week starting on June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me k=
now.</div><div><br><div>
Smith<br><br>/**<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless A=
rchitect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO=
 PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi=C2=A0Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.<br>*=
/<br><br><br>

</div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div>On Jun 19, 2=
017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=
=3D"m_5691431234821994209Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><=
div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Due =
to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.<br></div>In=
stead, we&#39;ll meet *next* week at our usual time.<br><br></div>Cheers,<b=
r></div>- Ira<br><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class=
=3D"m_5691431234821994209gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux=
 Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group=
<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designat=
ed Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/bluero=
ofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>blueroofmusic<=
/a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/si=
te/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>highno=
rthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Sali=
ne, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(734)%20944-0094" value=3D"+1734944=
0094" target=3D"_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand=
 Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(906)%20494-2434" value=3D"+19064942=
434" target=3D"_blank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style=3D"display:inline=
"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"><=
/div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></=
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Subject: [IPP] IPP sample code now available as a snap
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All,

As part of my work on getting the IPP sample code in a releasable state, I've setup automated snapcraft builds that provide AMD64/x64 and ARM builds for Linux that can be installed using the "snap" command, e.g.:

    sudo snap install --edge --devmode ipp

The resulting programs are available as "ipp.find", "ipp.proxy", "ipp.server", "ipp.tool", "ipp.transform", and "ipp.tramsform3d".

Please report any issues using the Github issue tracker:

    https://github.com/istopwg/ippsample/issues

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OK, IPP WG fixed to be: Every week on Thursday 3pm ET for 1.5 hours =
starting June 29, 2017.


> On Jun 19, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Smith,
>=20
> I suggest that the IPP WebEx meeting should be scheduled for EVERY=20
> week, so that we can use the WebEx in the needed weeks.
>=20
> In this instance, Mike and I just had a thread that tentatively ended =
up
> with an out-of-cycle June 29 followed by a couple of in-cycles July 6
> and July 20 for IPP WG calls.
>=20
> Those dates (July 6 and July 20) are opposite to the weeks of the
> primary SAE Vehicle Security calls cycle for the last 5 years (i.e.,=20=

> more convenient for Ira, but probably irrelevant from most others).
>=20
> Tricky.
>=20
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>=20
>=20
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic =
<http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc =
<http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com>> wrote:
> Hi Ira,
>=20
> I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other week starting =
on June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me know.
>=20
> Smith
>=20
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>     HP Inc.
> */
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com =
<mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.
>> Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>=20
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic =
<http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc =
<http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094 =
<tel:(734)%20944-0094>
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434 =
<tel:(906)%20494-2434>
>>=20
>> _______________________________________________
>> ipp mailing list
>> ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>
>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp =
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class=3D"">OK, IPP WG fixed to be: Every week on Thursday 3pm ET for 1.5 =
hours starting June 29, 2017.<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 19, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Smith,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>I suggest that the IPP WebEx meeting =
should be scheduled for EVERY <br class=3D"">week, so that we can use =
the WebEx in the needed weeks.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>In =
this instance, Mike and I just had a thread that tentatively ended up<br =
class=3D""></div>with an out-of-cycle June 29 followed by a couple of =
in-cycles July 6<br class=3D""></div>and July 20 for IPP WG calls.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Those dates (July 6 and July 20) are =
opposite to the weeks of the<br class=3D""></div>primary SAE Vehicle =
Security calls cycle for the last 5 years (i.e., <br class=3D"">more =
convenient for Ira, but probably irrelevant from most others).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Tricky.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>Cheers,<br class=3D""></div>- Ira<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br class=3D"">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br =
class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=3D""><a=
 style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br =
class=3D"">mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Jan-April: 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; =
734-944-0094<br class=3D"">May-Dec: PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI =
49839&nbsp; 906-494-2434<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
style=3D"display:inline" class=3D""></div><div style=3D"display:inline" =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"display:inline" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""></div><div class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 =
PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D"">Hi Ira,<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I just changed the WebEx meeting time =
to be every other week starting on June 29. If you need me to change the =
recurrence let me know.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"">On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 =
AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"m_5691431234821994209Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Hi,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Due to various =
conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.<br =
class=3D""></div>Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Cheers,<br class=3D""></div>- Ira<br =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"m_5691431234821994209gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br class=3D"">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br =
class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr =
class=3D"">blueroofmusic</a><br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
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Hi,

Thanks Smith.

Talk to you next week.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

> OK, IPP WG fixed to be: Every week on Thursday 3pm ET for 1.5 hours
> starting June 29, 2017.
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Smith,
>
> I suggest that the IPP WebEx meeting should be scheduled for EVERY
> week, so that we can use the WebEx in the needed weeks.
>
> In this instance, Mike and I just had a thread that tentatively ended up
> with an out-of-cycle June 29 followed by a couple of in-cycles July 6
> and July 20 for IPP WG calls.
>
> Those dates (July 6 and July 20) are opposite to the weeks of the
> primary SAE Vehicle Security calls cycle for the last 5 years (i.e.,
> more convenient for Ira, but probably irrelevant from most others).
>
> Tricky.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> <(734)%20944-0094>
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
> <(906)%20494-2434>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
> smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ira,
>>
>> I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other week starting on
>> June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me know.
>>
>> Smith
>>
>> /**
>>     Smith Kennedy
>>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC
>> Forum / USB IF
>>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>>     HP Inc.
>> */
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Due to various conflicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.
>> Instead, we'll meet *next* week at our usual time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
>> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> <(734)%20944-0094>
>> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> <(906)%20494-2434>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Thanks Smith.<br><br>=
</div>Talk to you next week.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Tru=
sted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>=
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Int=
ernet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MI=
B<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,20=
4)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:bl=
ueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan=
-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>M=
ay-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><=
div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div=
 style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Kennedy, Sm=
ith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kenn=
edy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">OK, IPP=
 WG fixed to be: Every week on Thursday 3pm ET for 1.5 hours starting June =
29, 2017.<div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 19, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Ira M=
cDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bl=
ueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_688007880482879526=
7Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><div><div><div>Hi Smith,<br><br></div>I suggest that the IPP WebEx mee=
ting should be scheduled for EVERY <br>week, so that we can use the WebEx i=
n the needed weeks.<br><br></div>In this instance, Mike and I just had a th=
read that tentatively ended up<br></div>with an out-of-cycle June 29 follow=
ed by a couple of in-cycles July 6<br></div>and July 20 for IPP WG calls.<b=
r><br></div>Those dates (July 6 and July 20) are opposite to the weeks of t=
he<br></div>primary SAE Vehicle Security calls cycle for the last 5 years (=
i.e., <br>more convenient for Ira, but probably irrelevant from most others=
).<br><br></div>Tricky.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><div><div><d=
iv><br></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"=
><div><div class=3D"m_6880078804828795267gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musi=
cian / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<=
br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Print=
er Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<=
br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High=
 North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google=
.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wb=
r>blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sit=
es.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/=
site/<wbr>highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park =
Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(734)%20944-0094" v=
alue=3D"+17349440094" target=3D"_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>May-Dec: PO Box=
 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(906)%20494-2434" va=
lue=3D"+19064942434" target=3D"_blank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style=
=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D=
"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Kennedy, Sm=
ith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kenn=
edy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Ira,=
<div><br></div><div>I just changed the WebEx meeting time to be every other=
 week starting on June 29. If you need me to change the recurrence let me k=
now.</div><div><br><div>
Smith<br><br>/**<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless A=
rchitect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO=
 PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi=C2=A0Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.<br>*=
/<br><br><br>

</div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"m_6880078804828795267=
h5"><div>On Jun 19, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bl=
ueroofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</div><br class=3D"m_6880078804828795267m_5691431234821994209Apple-inte=
rchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"m_6880078804828795267h=
5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Due to various con=
flicts, the IPP WG meeting this week is canceled.<br></div>Instead, we&#39;=
ll meet *next* week at our usual time.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<=
br><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class=3D"m_68800788=
04828795267m_5691431234821994209gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / So=
ftware Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair =
- Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Workin=
g Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF D=
esignated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North In=
c<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site=
/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/b<wbr>lueroo=
fmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"http://sites.google=
.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/h<wb=
r>ighnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=
=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(734)%20944-0094" value=3D"=
+17349440094" target=3D"_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=
=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 <a href=3D"tel:(906)%20494-2434" value=3D"=
+19064942434" target=3D"_blank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style=3D"displ=
ay:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:=
inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div=
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FYI - Well worth the time to read


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: =3DJeffH <Jeff.Hodges@kingsmountain.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:08 PM
Subject: [saag] fyi: New Special Publication 800-63-3 "Digital Identity
Guidelines" Suite published
To: IETF SAAG <saag@ietf.org>


Of possible interest...

[congrats to Jim Fenton and Paul Grassi]

<https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/>

SP 800-63-3   Digital Identity Guidelines
SP 800-63A    Enrollment and Identity Proofing
SP 800-63B    Authentication and Lifecycle Management
SP 800-63C    Federation and Assertions


On 6/22/17, 7:33 AM, "National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST)" wrote:

Mic Drop =E2=80=94 Announcing the New Special Publication 800-63 Suite!
06/22/2017 10:02 AM EDT
<http://trustedidentities.blogs.govdelivery.com/2017/06/22/
mic-drop-announcing-the-new-special-publication-800-63-suite/>

More than a year in the making, after a large, cross-industry effort, we
are proud to announce that the new Special Publication (SP) 800-63 IS. NOW.
FINAL. With your help, Electronic Authentication Guidelines has evolved
into Digital Identity Guidelines=E2=80=94a suite of documents covering digi=
tal
identity from initial risk assessment to deployment of federated identity
solutions. Check it out now at <https://pages.nist.gov/800-63>!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">FYI - Well worth the time to read<br><div><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"displ=
ay:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div>=
<div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<=
br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">=3DJeffH</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:Jeff.Hodges@kingsmountain.com">Jeff.Hodges@kingsmountain.c=
om</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:08 PM<br>Subject: [saag]=
 fyi: New Special Publication 800-63-3 &quot;Digital Identity Guidelines&qu=
ot; Suite published<br>To: IETF SAAG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:saag@ietf.org">s=
aag@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><br><br>Of possible interest...<br>
<br>
[congrats to Jim Fenton and Paul Grassi]<br>
<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://pages.nist.gov/800-63<wbr>-3/</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
SP 800-63-3=C2=A0 =C2=A0Digital Identity Guidelines<br>
SP 800-63A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Enrollment and Identity Proofing<br>
SP 800-63B=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authentication and Lifecycle Management<br>
SP 800-63C=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Federation and Assertions<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/22/17, 7:33 AM, &quot;National Institute of Standards and Technology (=
NIST)&quot; wrote:<br>
<br>
Mic Drop =E2=80=94 Announcing the New Special Publication 800-63 Suite!<br>
06/22/2017 10:02 AM EDT<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"http://trustedidentities.blogs.govdelivery.com/2017/06/22/mi=
c-drop-announcing-the-new-special-publication-800-63-suite/" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://trustedidentities.blog<wbr>s.govdelivery.com/=
2017/06/22/<wbr>mic-drop-announcing-the-new-<wbr>special-publication-800-63=
-<wbr>suite/</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
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Subject: [IPP] 5100.11 : "job-password" and "job-save-disposition"
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Hi there,

Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create-Job operation with =
the following attributes:

job-password=3D"12345678"
job-password-encryption=3D'none'
job-save-disposition=3D
{
	save-disposition=3D'save-only'
	save-info=3D
	{
		save-location=3D"whatever"
		save-document-format=3Dapplication/pdf
	}
}
	=09
What would one expect the printer to do:

1. Hold the Job in 'pending-held' state until the matching password was =
provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job
2. Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition =
in 5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user =
selection on the control panel, the user is prompted for the password

If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in =
standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe =
to be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be =
supported using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but =
wondered if it was already supported.

Thoughts?

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/




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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Hi there,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create-Job =
operation with the following attributes:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; =
padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: monospace;" =
class=3D"">job-password=3D"12345678"</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
monospace;" class=3D"">job-password-encryption=3D'none'</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: monospace;" =
class=3D"">job-save-disposition=3D</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
monospace;" class=3D"">{</div><div style=3D"font-family: monospace;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>save-disposition=3D'save-only'</div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family: monospace;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>save-info=3D</div><div style=3D"font-family: monospace;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>{</div><div style=3D"font-family: monospace;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>save-location=3D"whatever"</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
monospace;" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">		=
</span>save-document-format=3Dapplication/pdf</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: monospace;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>}</div><div style=3D"font-family: monospace;" =
class=3D"">}</div></blockquote><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: pre;">		=
</span></div><div class=3D"">What would one expect the printer to =
do:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. Hold =
the Job in 'pending-held' state until the matching password was =
provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job</div><div class=3D"">2. =
Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition in =
5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user =
selection on the control panel, the user is prompted for the =
password</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If =
the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in =
standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe =
to be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be =
supported using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but =
wondered if it was already supported.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thoughts?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer =
Working Group<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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Hi Smith,

This is an interesting question.

Since both Restart-Job and Reprocess-Job are *deprecated*, I note that,
with Resubmit-Job (which creates a *new* job from the saved/retained
job), I would assume that an entirely new job-password would be sent.

That is, I don't believe it's appropriate or reasonable for the saved job
to retain the old one-time-use job-password for the new job created by
the Resubmit-Job operation.

Mike - WDYT?

Cheers,
- Ira


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Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
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On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create-Job operation with
> the following attributes:
>
> job-password="12345678"
> job-password-encryption='none'
> job-save-disposition=
> {
> save-disposition='save-only'
>
> save-info=
> {
> save-location="whatever"
> save-document-format=application/pdf
> }
> }
>
> What would one expect the printer to do:
>
> 1. Hold the Job in 'pending-held' state until the matching password was
> provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job
> 2. Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition in
> 5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user
> selection on the control panel, the user is prompted for the password
>
> If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in
> standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe to
> be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be supported
> using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but wondered if it
> was already supported.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum
> / USB IF
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Smith,<br><br></div>=
This is an interesting question.<br><br></div>Since both Restart-Job and Re=
process-Job are <b><i>deprecated</i></b>, I note that,<br></div>with Resubm=
it-Job (which creates a *new* job from the saved/retained<br></div>job), I =
would assume that an entirely new job-password would be sent.<br><br></div>=
That is, I don&#39;t believe it&#39;s appropriate or reasonable for the sav=
ed job<br></div>to retain the old one-time-use job-password for the new job=
 created by<br></div><div>the Resubmit-Job operation.<br><br></div><div>Mik=
e - WDYT?<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>- Ira<br><br></div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted=
 Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secr=
etary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Interne=
t Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br=
>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=
=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://si=
tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:bluero=
ofmusic@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-Apr=
il: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-D=
ec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div =
style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div sty=
le=3D"display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Kennedy, Sm=
ith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kenn=
edy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi ther=
e,<div><br></div><div>Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create=
-Job operation with the following attributes:</div><div><br></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:monospace">job-password=3D&quot;12345678&quot;</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace">job-password-encryption=3D&#39;none&#39;</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:monospace">job-save-disposition=3D</div><div style=3D"font=
-family:monospace">{</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span class=
=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	<=
/span>save-disposition=3D&#39;save-only&#39;</div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:monospace"><span class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D=
"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>save-info=3D</div><div style=3D"font-family:=
monospace"><span class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D"wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">	</span>{</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace"><sp=
an class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-=
wrap">		</span>save-location=3D&quot;whatever&quot;</div><div style=3D"font=
-family:monospace"><span class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" sty=
le=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>save-document-format=3D<wbr>applicatio=
n/pdf</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span class=3D"m_-746692906=
2766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>}</div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:monospace">}</div></blockquote><div><span class=3D"m=
_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">		</spa=
n></div><div>What would one expect the printer to do:</div><div><br></div><=
div>1. Hold the Job in &#39;pending-held&#39; state until the matching pass=
word was provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job</div><div>2. Process =
the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition in 5100.11 sect=
ion 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user selection on the =
control panel, the user is prompted for the password</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in stan=
dard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe to be a =
valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be supported using my =
(pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but wondered if it was alread=
y supported.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><br><div>Smith<br=
><br>/**<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Wireless Architect=
 - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / B=
luetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chair, =
IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HP Inc.<br>*/<br><br><br><=
/div><br></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_______________=
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Subject: [IPP] Posted IPP System Service (24 June 2017)
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Hi,

I have just posted another Interim draft of IPP System Service for
review during the IPP WG call next week:

  http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf
  - PDF with line numbers and redlines

  http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.docx
  - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines

Summary:  More pending edits from Mike Sweet's offline review.

Cheers,
- Ira

-------------------------------
Change History:
24 June 2017

- Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per comments and new text from Mike Sweet
- global =E2=80=93 kept all changes from previous draft (not yet reviewed)
- global =E2=80=93 revised all =E2=80=9Cxxx-attributes-supported=E2=80=9D t=
o remove infix of
=E2=80=9Ctype2=E2=80=9D because these attributes do not have a registered s=
et of values
(and support vendor extensions as well)
- global =E2=80=93 changed the range of all =E2=80=9Cprinter-id=E2=80=9D an=
d =E2=80=9Cprinter-ids=E2=80=9D from
=E2=80=981:MAX=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=981:65535=E2=80=99
for compatibility with Printer MIB and discovery protocols
- global =E2=80=93 changed the range of all =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-vcard=
=E2=80=9D and
=E2=80=9Csystem-device-id=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=981023=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98=
MAX=E2=80=99 to retain explicit range for clarity
- revised section 5.2 System Description Attributes in Table 1 and added
section 7.2.4 ipp-features-supported for consistency
- revised section 6.4.7 Register-Output-Device to define the operation from
Mike Sweet =E2=80=93 thanks!
- revised section 6.4.10 Set-System-Attributes to define the operation
- revised section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources in Table 11 and added
section 7.3.10.7 resource-state-reasons for consistency
- revised section 7.3.15 system-state-message to change syntax from
=E2=80=981setOf=E2=80=99 (like PWG System Service) to single-valued for con=
sistency with
existing Printer object
- added complete section 13 IANA Considerations (412 lines!) from Mike
Sweet =E2=80=93 thanks!
- added section 16.2.1 Restrict =E2=80=9Cprinter-id=E2=80=9D range to 65535=
 (16-bit) to
document design choice for compatibility
- TODO =E2=80=93 define remaining operations Set-Resource-Attributes,
Get-System-Supported-Values, and Restart-System
- TODO =E2=80=93 add final response group of System attributes for all oper=
ations
that can change System state (as a side-effect)

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div>I hav=
e just <span><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527=
100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-il">posted</span></span></=
span> another Interim draft of <span><span><span><span><span class=3D"gmail=
-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-515440546117497=
4041gmail-m_-6295689530962265773gmail-m_6253211657032507473gmail-m_-7657206=
878290459083gmail-m_6176005587755606359gmail-m_1348348267460700115gmail-m_8=
888662490289409522gmail-il"><span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmai=
l-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-m_-62956895309622=
65773gmail-m_6253211657032507473gmail-m_-7657206878290459083gmail-m_6176005=
587755606359gmail-m_1348348267460700115gmail-il"><span class=3D"gmail-m_-29=
79594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gm=
ail-il">IPP</span></span></span></span></span></span></span> <span><span><s=
pan><span><span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100=
309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-m_-6295689530962265773gmail-m=
_6253211657032507473gmail-m_-7657206878290459083gmail-m_6176005587755606359=
gmail-m_1348348267460700115gmail-m_8888662490289409522gmail-il"><span class=
=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-515440=
5461174974041gmail-m_-6295689530962265773gmail-m_6253211657032507473gmail-m=
_-7657206878290459083gmail-m_6176005587755606359gmail-m_1348348267460700115=
gmail-il"><span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400=
673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-il">System</span></span></span></sp=
an></span></span></span></span> <span></span><span><span><span><span class=
=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-515440=
5461174974041gmail-m_-6295689530962265773gmail-m_6253211657032507473gmail-m=
_-7657206878290459083gmail-m_6176005587755606359gmail-m_1348348267460700115=
gmail-m_8888662490289409522gmail-il"><span class=3D"gmail-m_-29795946245961=
96427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-m_-62956=
89530962265773gmail-m_6253211657032507473gmail-m_-7657206878290459083gmail-=
m_6176005587755606359gmail-m_1348348267460700115gmail-il"><span class=3D"gm=
ail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-515440546117=
4974041gmail-il">Service</span></span></span></span></span></span> for<br>r=
eview during the <span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596196427gmail-m_-552710=
0309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-m_-6295689530962265773gmail-=
m_6253211657032507473gmail-m_-7657206878290459083gmail-m_617600558775560635=
9gmail-m_1348348267460700115gmail-il"><span class=3D"gmail-m_-2979594624596=
196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-il">IPP=
 WG call</span></span> next week:<br><br></div>=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://ftp=
.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">=
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf</a><br>

=C2=A0 - PDF with line numbers and redlines<br>=C2=A0 <br>=C2=A0 <a href=3D=
"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.docx" target=
=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.d=
ocx</a><br>=C2=A0 - MS Word source with line numbers and redlines<br><br></=
div><div><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Summary:=C2=A0 Mor=
e pending edits from Mike Sweet&#39;s offline<span class=3D"gmail-m_-297959=
4624596196427gmail-m_-5527100309400673852gmail-m_-5154405461174974041gmail-=
il"></span> review.<br></span></div><div>
<br></div><div>
</div>Cheers,<br></div></div>- Ira<br><br>------------------------------<wb=
r>-<br>
Change History:<br></div><div>24 June 2017<br>

<p class=3D"gmail-IEEEStdsParagraph">- Interim draft =E2=80=93 changes per =
comments and new text from
Mike Sweet<br>
- global =E2=80=93 kept all changes from previous draft (not yet reviewed)<=
br>
- global =E2=80=93 revised all =E2=80=9Cxxx-attributes-supported=E2=80=9D t=
o remove infix of =E2=80=9Ctype2=E2=80=9D
because these attributes do not have a registered set of values (and suppor=
t
vendor extensions as well)<br>
- global =E2=80=93 changed the range of all =E2=80=9Cprinter-id=E2=80=9D an=
d =E2=80=9Cprinter-ids=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=981:MAX=E2=80=99
to =E2=80=981:65535=E2=80=99<br>
for compatibility with Printer MIB and discovery protocols<br>
- global =E2=80=93 changed the range of all =E2=80=9Crequesting-user-vcard=
=E2=80=9D and
=E2=80=9Csystem-device-id=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=981023=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98=
MAX=E2=80=99 to retain explicit range for clarity<br>
- revised section 5.2 System Description Attributes in Table 1 and added se=
ction
7.2.4 ipp-features-supported for consistency<br>
<span style=3D"background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%">- revised sectio=
n 6.4.7
Register-Output-Device to define the operation from Mike Sweet =E2=80=93 th=
anks!</span><br>
- revised section 6.4.10 Set-System-Attributes to define the operation<br>
- revised section 7.3.10 system-configured-resources in Table 11 and added
section 7.3.10.7 resource-state-reasons for consistency<br>
- revised section 7.3.15 system-state-message to change syntax from =E2=80=
=981setOf=E2=80=99
(like PWG System Service) to single-valued for consistency with existing Pr=
inter
object<br>
<span style=3D"background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%">- added complete=
 section
13 IANA Considerations (412 lines!) from Mike Sweet =E2=80=93 thanks!</span=
><br>
- added section 16.2.1 Restrict =E2=80=9Cprinter-id=E2=80=9D range to 65535=
 (16-bit) to
document design choice for compatibility<br>
<span style=3D"background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%">- TODO =E2=80=93=
 define remaining
operations Set-Resource-Attributes, Get-System-Supported-Values, and Restar=
t-System</span><br>
<span style=3D"background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%">- TODO =E2=80=93=
 add final
response group of System attributes for all operations that can change Syst=
em
state (as a side-effect)</span></p>

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Subject: Re: [IPP] 5100.11 : "job-password" and "job-save-disposition"
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Hi Ira,

My main concerns are that the "job-password" provided will prevent the =
Job from being stored when it is received, and that once the password is =
entered at the Printer, that password won't persist. That doesn't seem =
to match my expectations as to what the user would want. In the use case =
I'm thinking about, the Job is sent to be stored and is provided with a =
password, with the user expecting that it will be stored right away, and =
that each re-print of that saved job will require that job's password to =
be entered.

It seems we could solve this using a combination of "document-password" =
if the "save-document-format"=3D'application/pdf', or possibly using my =
pending "IPP Document Encryption" system. I would have thought that this =
combination would have been considered already since  both =
"job-password" and "job-save-disposition" are defined in the same PWG =
candidate standard. Language such as :

If a job creation operation is received that includes both =
"job-password" and "job-save-disposition" where its "save-disposition" =
member is 'save-only', in this case the Job will NOT be placed in =
'pending-held' state but will proceed to "processing" for becoming a =
"saved job", and the "job-password" will be expected upon each reprint.

=46rom HP's perspective, the reprinting of saved jobs is not performed =
via IPP Client operations such as the deprecated Restart-Job or =
Reprocess-Job operation, but by user interactions at the Printer itself, =
for instance using a physical printer's control panel or web interface, =
or a print server's management interface.

Smith

/**
    Smith Kennedy
    Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
    Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
    HP Inc.
*/



> On Jun 24, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Smith,
>=20
> This is an interesting question.
>=20
> Since both Restart-Job and Reprocess-Job are deprecated, I note that,
> with Resubmit-Job (which creates a *new* job from the saved/retained
> job), I would assume that an entirely new job-password would be sent.
>=20
> That is, I don't believe it's appropriate or reasonable for the saved =
job
> to retain the old one-time-use job-password for the new job created by
> the Resubmit-Job operation.
>=20
> Mike - WDYT?
>=20
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>=20
>=20
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic =
<http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc =
<http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
> Jan-April: 579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> May-Dec: PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) =
<smith.kennedy@hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com>> wrote:
> Hi there,
>=20
> Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create-Job operation =
with the following attributes:
>=20
> job-password=3D"12345678"
> job-password-encryption=3D'none'
> job-save-disposition=3D
> {
> 	save-disposition=3D'save-only'
> 	save-info=3D
> 	{
> 		save-location=3D"whatever"
> 		save-document-format=3Dapplication/pdf
> 	}
> }
> 	=09
> What would one expect the printer to do:
>=20
> 1. Hold the Job in 'pending-held' state until the matching password =
was provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job
> 2. Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition =
in 5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user =
selection on the control panel, the user is prompted for the password
>=20
> If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in =
standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe =
to be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be =
supported using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but =
wondered if it was already supported.
>=20
> Thoughts?
>=20
> Smith
>=20
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>     Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC =
Forum / USB IF
>     Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>     HP Inc.
> */
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Ira,</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My main concerns are that the =
"job-password" provided will prevent the Job from being stored when it =
is received, and that once the password is entered at the Printer, that =
password won't persist. That doesn't seem to match my expectations as to =
what the user would want. In the use case I'm thinking about, the Job is =
sent to be stored and is provided with a password, with the user =
expecting that it will be stored right away, and that each re-print of =
that saved job will require that job's password to be entered.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">It seems =
we could solve this using a combination of "document-password" if the =
"save-document-format"=3D'application/pdf', or possibly using my pending =
"IPP Document Encryption" system. I would have thought that this =
combination would have been considered already since &nbsp;both =
"job-password" and "job-save-disposition" are defined in the same PWG =
candidate standard. Language such as :</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: =
none; padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">If a job =
creation operation is received that includes both "job-password" and =
"job-save-disposition" where its "save-disposition" member is =
'save-only', in this case the Job will NOT be placed in 'pending-held' =
state but will proceed to "processing" for becoming a "saved job", and =
the "job-password" will be expected upon each =
reprint.</div></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">=46rom HP's perspective, the reprinting of =
saved jobs is not performed via IPP Client operations such as the =
deprecated Restart-Job or Reprocess-Job operation, but by user =
interactions at the Printer itself, for instance using a physical =
printer's control panel or web interface, or a print server's management =
interface.</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Smith<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith =
Kennedy<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software =
- IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi&nbsp;Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; HP Inc.<br class=3D"">*/<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 24, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Ira McDonald &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Smith,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>This is an interesting question.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>Since both Restart-Job and Reprocess-Job are <b =
class=3D""><i class=3D"">deprecated</i></b>, I note that,<br =
class=3D""></div>with Resubmit-Job (which creates a *new* job from the =
saved/retained<br class=3D""></div>job), I would assume that an entirely =
new job-password would be sent.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>That =
is, I don't believe it's appropriate or reasonable for the saved job<br =
class=3D""></div>to retain the old one-time-use job-password for the new =
job created by<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">the Resubmit-Job =
operation.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Mike - =
WDYT?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Ira<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software =
Architect)<br class=3D"">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br =
class=3D"">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br =
class=3D"">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br =
class=3D"">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br =
class=3D"">IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br =
class=3D"">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=3D""><a =
style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=3D""><a=
 style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" =
href=3D"http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br =
class=3D"">mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br =
class=3D"">Jan-April: 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; =
734-944-0094<br class=3D"">May-Dec: PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI =
49839&nbsp; 906-494-2434<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
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<br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:15 =
PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <span dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word" class=3D"">Hi there,<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Consider a scenario where a Printer =
receives a Create-Job operation with the following attributes:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" =
class=3D"">job-password=3D"12345678"</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" =
class=3D"">job-password-encryption=3D'none'</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"">job-save-disposition=3D</div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"">{</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	=
</span>save-disposition=3D'save-only'</div></blockquote><blockquote =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>save-info=3D</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>{</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">		=
</span>save-location=3D"whatever"</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">		</span>save-document-format=3D<wbr=
 class=3D"">application/pdf</div><div style=3D"font-family:monospace" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">	</span>}</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D"">}</div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"m_-7466929062766381675Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">		</span></div><div class=3D"">What =
would one expect the printer to do:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. Hold the Job in 'pending-held' state =
until the matching password was provided, then retain the Job as a Saved =
Job</div><div class=3D"">2. Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved =
Job per the definition in 5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it =
might be reprinted via user selection on the control panel, the user is =
prompted for the password</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way =
currently in standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, =
which I believe to be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This =
could be supported using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption =
whitepaper, but wondered if it was already supported.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thoughts?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">Smith<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">/**<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Smith Kennedy<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Wireless Architect - Client Software - =
IPG-PPS<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / =
Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
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Smith,

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Consider a scenario where a Printer receives a Create-Job operation with the following attributes:
> 
> job-password="12345678"
> job-password-encryption='none'
> job-save-disposition=
> {
> 	save-disposition='save-only'
> 	save-info=
> 	{
> 		save-location="whatever"
> 		save-document-format=application/pdf
> 	}
> }
> 		
> What would one expect the printer to do:
> 
> 1. Hold the Job in 'pending-held' state until the matching password was provided, then retain the Job as a Saved Job
> 2. Process the Job to retain the Job as a Saved Job per the definition in 5100.11 section 2.2, but then whenever it might be reprinted via user selection on the control panel, the user is prompted for the password

The result should be 1 or a new 3:

3. Treat job-password and job-password-encryption as constrained against job-save-disposition (i.e. the two are incompatible), and either return client-error-conflicting-attributes or successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes with one or the other in the unsupported attributes group of the response.

The problem with #2 is that you are saving private information (job-password[-encryption]) with the processed job data, which could be a security issue (information disclosure).  Plus the saved job is not necessarily stored on the printer...

> If the expectation is #1 then there seems to be no way currently in standard IPP to create a password protected Saved Job, which I believe to be a valid use case that IPP needs to support. This could be supported using my (pending) IPP Document Encryption whitepaper, but wondered if it was already supported.

What you want is probably the semantic equivalent of document-password in the job-save-disposition ("save-password"), not job-password, however there are issues since we normally send passwords as operation attributes that are not made available as part of the Job or Document objects...

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From: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 09:39:34 -0400
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Subject: [IPP] Updated LCRC stable draft of PJT3D posted
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All,

I have posted an updated stable draft of the PWG 3D Print Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities v1.0 (PJT3D) specification to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170627.docx
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170627.pdf
	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170627-rev.pdf

The updated draft contains two changes: one to address the example material type for PVA Dissolvable (was PLA) and an update to the Unicode reference (now Unicode 10.0...)

The last call comment response is available at:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-smpjt3d10.txt

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 29 June 2017 at
12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below

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Unique attendee access code:  Displayed in the WebEx meeting

Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, and Agenda Review
- Guest as minute taker? - Mike can't attend today

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf
-- IPP WG call on 05/25/17
-- IPP WG call on 06/08/17 was canceled due to lack of quorum
-- IPP WG call on 06/22/17 was canceled due to schedule conflicts

(3) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20170615.htm
-- see PWG SC minutes from 06/15/17

(4) Status of Get-User-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609.pdf
-- IPP WG review on 05/11/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authentication.pdf
-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(7) Status of Mapping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf
-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started ended 06/15/17 - LCRC pending
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices

(8) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-charter-20170615.pdf
-- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee approved 05/25/17
-- PWG Approved - PWG Call for Objections ended 06/09/17

(9) Interaction of "job-password" and "job-save-disposition" (Smith)
- http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019238.html
- note that "job-password" is an operation attribute (not visible on Job)

(10) Review of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170627-rev.pdf
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-smpjt3d10.txt
-- Stable draft - PWG Last call ended 06/16/17 - LCRC responses
-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard

(11) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf
-- Stable draft - PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17
-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 - prototype in "ippserver"

(12) Next steps
- IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern - NEXT WEEK
-- regular topics - return to normal bi-weekly cadence

- IPP WG call on Thu 20 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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oll number (US/Canada): <a href=3D"tel:%28408%29%20856-9570" value=3D"+1408=
8569570" target=3D"_blank">+1 408 856-9570</a><br><br><span style=3D"backgr=
ound-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio=
 options (&quot;Call Me Back&quot; or VoIP) are listed once you join the We=
bEx meeting.<br><br>Unique attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displayed in the Web=
Ex meeting</span><br><br></div>Agenda:<br>(1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, =
and Agenda Review<br>- Guest as minute taker? - Mike can&#39;t attend today=
<br><br>(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings<br>- <a href=3D"http=
://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170525.pdf" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-<wb=
r>minutes-20170525.pdf</a><br>-- IPP WG call on 05/25/17<br></div><div>-- I=
PP WG call on 06/08/17 was canceled due to lack of quorum<br></div><div>-- =
IPP WG call on 06/22/17 was canceled due to schedule conflicts<br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>(3) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)<br>- <a =
href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/ansi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.pdf" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/lia<wbr>ison/a=
nsi/pwg-rapid-may-2017.p<wbr>df</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/=
pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20170615.htm">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg=
/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20170615.htm</a><br></div><div></div><div>-=
- see PWG SC minutes from 06/15/17<br><br></div><div>(4) Status of Get-User=
-Printer-Attributes whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/p=
ub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-20170524-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://=
ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>ipp/whitepaper/tb-userop-<wbr>20170524-rev.pdf</a>=
<br></div><div>-- PWG review at Virtual F2F on 05/04/17<br></div><div>-- Sc=
hedule - TBD<br><br>(5) Status of IPP Presets whitepaper (Smith)<br>- <a hr=
ef=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-20170609.pdf"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ipp-preset-=
20170609.pdf</a><br><div>-- IPP WG review on 05/11/17<br></div>-- Schedule =
- TBD<br><br></div><div>(6) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (S=
mith)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/ipp-authent=
ication.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp<wbr>/whitepap=
er/ipp-authentication<wbr>.pdf</a><br></div><div><div>-- PWG review at Virt=
ual F2F on 05/04/17<br></div>-- Schedule - TBD<br><br><div>(7) Status of Ma=
pping of CIP4 JDF to PWG PJT (Ira, Rick)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org=
/pub/pwg/sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pw=
g.org/pub/pwg/<wbr>sm3/wd/wd-smjdfmap10-20170504.<wbr>pdf<br></a></div><div=
>-- Stable draft - PWG Last call started ended 06/15/17 - LCRC pending<br><=
/div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote Q3 2017 as Best Practices<br><br></=
div><div>(8) Status of IPP WG Charter (Ira)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.=
org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-charter-20170615.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http=
://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/charter/ch-ipp-charter-20170615.pdf</a><br></div=
>-- Status - IPP WG and PWG Steering Committee approved 05/25/17<br>-- PWG =
Approved - PWG Call for Objections ended 06/09/17<br><br><div>(9) Interacti=
on of &quot;job-password&quot; and &quot;job-save-disposition&quot; (Smith)=
<br>- <a href=3D"http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019238.html">http://w=
ww.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019238.html</a><br></div>- note that &quot;job=
-password&quot; is an operation attribute (not visible on Job)</div><div><d=
iv><br>(10) Review of PWG 3D Print Job Ticket (Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http:/=
/ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-20170627-rev.pdf" rel=3D"noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-smpjt3d10-2017062=
7-rev.pdf</a><br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/lcrc-smpjt3=
d10.txt" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/<w=
br>ipp/wd/lcrc-smpjt3d10.txt</a></div><div>-- Stable draft - PWG Last call =
ended 06/16/17 - LCRC responses<br></div><div>-- Schedule - PWG Formal Vote=
 Q3 2017 as Candidate Standard<br></div><br></div><div>(11) Review of IPP S=
ystem Service (Ira/Mike)<br>- <a href=3D"http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/=
wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/p=
wg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20170624-rev.pdf</a><br>-- Stable draft - PWG revi=
ew at Virtual F2F on 05/03/17<br>-- Schedule - Prototype draft in Q3 2017 -=
 prototype in &quot;ippserver&quot;<br><br>(12) Next steps<br></div></div><=
div><div>- IPP WG call on Thu 6 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern - NEXT =
WEEK<br></div><div>-- regular topics - return to normal bi-weekly cadence<b=
r></div><br><div>- IPP WG call on Thu 20 July 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Easter=
n<br></div>-- regular topics<br><br>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br><br><div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira M=
cDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility =
Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IE=
EE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing=
 Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof=
 Music / High North Inc<br><a style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)" href=3D"http:/=
/sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.google=
.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style=3D"color:rgb(102,0,204)" href=3D"ht=
tp://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target=3D"_blank">http://sites.goo=
gle.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:blueroofmusic@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Pa=
rk Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box=
 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434<br><br><div style=3D"d=
isplay:inline"></div><div style=3D"display:inline"></div><div style=3D"disp=
lay:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div><=
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I have posted the minutes from today's IPP WG conference call to:

	http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20170629.pdf

Our next conference call will be on July 6, 2017 at 3pm ET.

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Subject: [IPP] Registration Template: "platform-shape (type2 keyword)" Printer Description attribute
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All,

Apple would like to register an additional IPP 3D Printer Description attribute called "platform-shape" which describes to the Client the overall shape of the build platform.  The build platform described in the PWG 5100.21-2017: IPP 3D Printing Extensions v1.0 is a rectangle and the build volume a cuboid.  However, some new 3D ("delta") printers use a 3-axis extruder positioning mechanism with a fixed elliptical build platform, forming a cylindrical build volume instead.

The new "platform-shape (type2 keyword)" Printer Description attribute will be registered with two values: 'rectangle' and 'ellipse', with the default being 'rectangle' to conform to the definitions in 5100.21.

The registration templates are as follows:

Printer Description attributes:				Reference
------------------------------				---------
platform-shape (type2 keyword)				[APPLE20170629]


Attributes (attribute syntax)
  Keyword Attribute Value				Reference
  -----------------------				---------
platform-shape (type2 keyword)				[APPLE20170629]
  ellipse						[APPLE20170629]
  rectangle						[APPLE20170629]


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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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