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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Mike, If you have no objection to a voice from the past, i'd like to work on an IPP for dummies document. (I know of some managers that could use one.) I'd like to see the first chapter include a discussion of why IPP instead of lpr or Port 9100. Pete Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. Global Development Group 800 Phillips Rd, 111-04A Webster NY, 14580-9701 Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Office: +1 (585) 265-8755 Fax: +1 (585) 422-0238 Mobile: +1 (585) 329-9508 ________________________________ From: ipp on behalf of wamwagner@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:58:33 PM To: Paul Tykodi; Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? All, Interesting project. We could argue the outline order a bit. Although a clear presentation the basics is necessary, IPP as a way to interface with printers (lower case, hardcopy image-making device) has been around for ages and probably would not cause much excitement. Perhaps there would be more interest (and there certainly is more need) in aspects where there is not much implementation (and great potential); infra/cloud and scanning/image handling. And I wonder how much interest there would be from application developers without first getting their managers aware of the product advantages? Bill Wagner From: Paul Tykodi Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:18 PM To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? Hi Smith, I also agree this is a good idea. I think we should consider developing a 3D focused chapter as well. I volunteer to generate some content for a potential 3D chapter in the event it is accepted as part of the document. Best Regards, /Paul Sent from my iPhone On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) > wrote: Hi Mike, I agree we need a document like this and support its creation, and volunteer to co-author. Others within HP have also expressed interest in contributing to it. I had hoped that the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 was going to provide some of this. But an "IPP Basics" document like what you describe below is really a better first starting point, which then may refer the reader to IPP Implementor's Guide v2. Perhaps the examples you discuss below should also be done using "ipptool" / "ippserver"? Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: All, I'm seeing a lot of questions from users of different IPP-based projects (CUPS, node.js, etc.) that show a fundamental lack of understanding of basic IPP concepts - URIs, attribute syntaxes (types), etc. - and I generally hesitate before pointing them at the various specifications because IPP is such a large, multi-headed beast. Do people have any interest in working on an "IPP for Dummies" document that would provide a beginners (application developer's) guide to IPP? A rough table-of-contents might be: 1. Introduction a. What is IPP? (short history) b. URIs c. Requests/Responses d. Attributes and Groups e. Attribute Syntaxes (types) 2. Print Jobs a. What are Print Jobs? b. Job Description Attributes c. Job Status Attributes d. Job Template Attributes e. Documents 3. Printers a. What are Printers? b. Printer Description Attributes c. Printer Status Attributes d. Printer Capabilities 4. Submitting Print Jobs a. CUPS API Examples b. Node.js API Examples 5. Checking Job and Printer Status a. CUPS API Examples b. Node.js API Examples 6. IPP Map (visual map of IPP specifications) Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 06:22:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E205A12708C for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 06:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Pete, For sure your participation would be greatly appreciated! And I agree any introduction/history definitely needs to say something about past "protocols" and why they have been replaced. > On Dec 1, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote: > > Mike, > If you have no objection to a voice from the past, i'd like to work on an IPP for dummies document. (I know of some managers that could use one.) I'd like to see the first chapter include a discussion of why IPP instead of lpr or Port 9100. > Pete > > Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > Global Development Group > 800 Phillips Rd, 111-04A > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Office: +1 (585) 265-8755 > Fax: +1 (585) 422-0238 > Mobile: +1 (585) 329-9508 > > ________________________________ > From: ipp on behalf of wamwagner@comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:58:33 PM > To: Paul Tykodi; Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) > Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector > Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? > > All, > Interesting project. We could argue the outline order a bit. Although a clear presentation the basics is necessary, IPP as a way to interface with printers (lower case, hardcopy image-making device) has been around for ages and probably would not cause much excitement. Perhaps there would be more interest (and there certainly is more need) in aspects where there is not much implementation (and great potential); infra/cloud and scanning/image handling. And I wonder how much interest there would be from application developers without first getting their managers aware of the product advantages? > Bill Wagner > > From: Paul Tykodi > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:18 PM > To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) > Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector > Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? > > Hi Smith, > > I also agree this is a good idea. > > I think we should consider developing a 3D focused chapter as well. > > I volunteer to generate some content for a potential 3D chapter in the event it is accepted as part of the document. > > Best Regards, > > /Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) > wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I agree we need a document like this and support its creation, and volunteer to co-author. Others within HP have also expressed interest in contributing to it. I had hoped that the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 was going to provide some of this. But an "IPP Basics" document like what you describe below is really a better first starting point, which then may refer the reader to IPP Implementor's Guide v2. Perhaps the examples you discuss below should also be done using "ipptool" / "ippserver"? > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Michael Sweet > wrote: > > All, > > I'm seeing a lot of questions from users of different IPP-based projects (CUPS, node.js, etc.) that show a fundamental lack of understanding of basic IPP concepts - URIs, attribute syntaxes (types), etc. - and I generally hesitate before pointing them at the various specifications because IPP is such a large, multi-headed beast. > > Do people have any interest in working on an "IPP for Dummies" document that would provide a beginners (application developer's) guide to IPP? A rough table-of-contents might be: > > 1. Introduction > a. What is IPP? (short history) > b. URIs > c. Requests/Responses > d. Attributes and Groups > e. Attribute Syntaxes (types) > 2. Print Jobs > a. What are Print Jobs? > b. Job Description Attributes > c. Job Status Attributes > d. Job Template Attributes > e. Documents > 3. Printers > a. What are Printers? > b. Printer Description Attributes > c. Printer Status Attributes > d. Printer Capabilities > 4. Submitting Print Jobs > a. CUPS API Examples > b. Node.js API Examples > 5. Checking Job and Printer Status > a. CUPS API Examples > b. Node.js API Examples > 6. IPP Map > (visual map of IPP specifications) > > Thoughts? > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 06:26:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E4F12708C for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 06:26:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, > On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > I agree we need a document like this and support its creation, and volunteer to co-author. Others within HP have also expressed interest in contributing to it. I had hoped that the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 was going to provide some of this. But an "IPP Basics" document like what you describe below is really a better first starting point, which then may refer the reader to IPP Implementor's Guide v2. Perhaps the examples you discuss below should also be done using "ipptool" / "ippserver"? I can see a use for both of those - ipptool to try out requests, ippserver for testing/development. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 06:30:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370B127078 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 06:30:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KFkSJUOCFDrP for ; 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Paul, I hesitate to mix in 3D content in the same document (we can quickly make this into another huge, scary volume), but perhaps we can develop a separate 3D "book" in parallel - much of the content will be the same/similar anyways. But I agree 100% about doing something for 3D as well. > On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Paul Tykodi wrote: > > Hi Smith, > > I also agree this is a good idea. > > I think we should consider developing a 3D focused chapter as well. > > I volunteer to generate some content for a potential 3D chapter in the event it is accepted as part of the document. > > Best Regards, > > /Paul > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I agree we need a document like this and support its creation, and volunteer to co-author. Others within HP have also expressed interest in contributing to it. I had hoped that the IPP Implementor's Guide v2 was going to provide some of this. But an "IPP Basics" document like what you describe below is really a better first starting point, which then may refer the reader to IPP Implementor's Guide v2. Perhaps the examples you discuss below should also be done using "ipptool" / "ippserver"? >> >> Smith >> >> /** >> Smith Kennedy >> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS >> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF >> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group >> HP Inc. >> */ >> >> >> >>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> I'm seeing a lot of questions from users of different IPP-based projects (CUPS, node.js, etc.) that show a fundamental lack of understanding of basic IPP concepts - URIs, attribute syntaxes (types), etc. - and I generally hesitate before pointing them at the various specifications because IPP is such a large, multi-headed beast. >>> >>> Do people have any interest in working on an "IPP for Dummies" document that would provide a beginners (application developer's) guide to IPP? A rough table-of-contents might be: >>> >>> 1. Introduction >>> a. What is IPP? (short history) >>> b. URIs >>> c. Requests/Responses >>> d. Attributes and Groups >>> e. Attribute Syntaxes (types) >>> 2. Print Jobs >>> a. What are Print Jobs? >>> b. Job Description Attributes >>> c. Job Status Attributes >>> d. Job Template Attributes >>> e. Documents >>> 3. Printers >>> a. What are Printers? >>> b. Printer Description Attributes >>> c. Printer Status Attributes >>> d. Printer Capabilities >>> 4. Submitting Print Jobs >>> a. CUPS API Examples >>> b. Node.js API Examples >>> 5. Checking Job and Printer Status >>> a. CUPS API Examples >>> b. Node.js API Examples >>> 6. IPP Map >>> (visual map of IPP specifications) >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ipp mailing list >>> ipp@pwg.org >>> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 06:44:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C781293E0 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 06:44:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Bill, > On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:58 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote: > > All, > Interesting project. We could argue the outline order a bit. Although a clear presentation the basics is necessary, IPP as a way to interface with printers (lower case, hardcopy image-making device) has been around for ages and probably would not cause much excitement. Perhaps there would be more interest (and there certainly is more need) in aspects where there is not much implementation (and great potential); infra/cloud and scanning/image handling. And I wonder how much interest there would be from application developers without first getting their managers aware of the product advantages? I've been getting a lot of questions from application/framework developers on Linux (trying to modernize the Linux printing stack) as well as cloud service developers using things like Node.js to support printing. In both cases we are talking about the client-side interactions with an IPP Printer (locally or in "the cloud"), with the developer unsure about how IPP works or how to accomplish their task. What *I'm* envisioning is more of a high-level how-to guide for using IPP - that first chapter will get people needing to print (managers included) excited about IPP because a) it solves their problem and b) they know they will learn how to use it by reading the rest of the book. If we expand the scope too far (particularly into areas that haven't been widely implemented) then it (IMHO) will make the material less compelling and harder to approach. We don't need to document everything in one place. We don't need to answer every question. But we do need a way for new developers to get comfortable using IPP... _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 07:16:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819D41293E4 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 07:16:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=apple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e_WEn5WryGJw for ; 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Fri, 01 Dec 2017 07:16:32 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <792D6632-E17D-4139-A59D-B663C7210033@apple.com> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 10:16:31 -0500 Message-id: <5CB29E27-BC99-4E39-B433-C2F7E0B93997@apple.com> References: <792D6632-E17D-4139-A59D-B663C7210033@apple.com> To: PWG IPP WG Reflector X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAYoRtYpBhlMOemmcWxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVMWH2V5aCfSIV/357NDDuFehi5OSQEDCRONizjA3EFhJYwySx /XwaTPzM3jdMXYxcQPFDjBI3t0wBK+IVEJT4MfkeSxcjBwezgLzEwfOyIGFmAS2J749aWSDq W5gk7u+5yQKSEBaQkDjev5AVwvaQmPiiiRHEZhNQk/g9qQ8szilgK3Hr/lVmEJtFQFVi++Fm JohdNhKbbjaxQhxnI/H4zzawXhGg3gmvj7BCHKokMf37bTaQxRICD1klHpzdzTiBUWgWkltn Idw6C8mtCxiZVzEK5yZm5uhm5hkZ6SUWFOSk6iXn525iBAXraiaxHYz3XhseYhTgYFTi4V0R ohglxJpYVlyZe4hRmoNFSZy3KEchSkggPbEkNTs1tSC1KL6oNCe1+BAjEwenVANjSNinqQa3 OxReZVSs4Wpo3spzZs77u5vevo5q+fprln9+vZ9sWMzZ7x+8js/8enbV2w7/suQtNb+M1SLU ltfH7yu+obLVZ4lGssacGvslz2usjVJK7n4IlrxpN9Hk9RtnmQe7wvouh847+p5XofKo+bTZ M0Ri6+zrNrzx4RfmuxcYuuDzhD9pSizFGYmGWsxFxYkAyj4CPDcCAAA= X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FB8RjewSDHKoHUuq8WxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVMWH2V5aCfSIV/357NDDuFehi5OSQEDCROLP3DVMXIxeHkMAh RombW6awgSR4BQQlfky+x9LFyMHBLCAvcfC8LEiYWUBL4vujVhaI+hYmift7brKAJIQFJCSO 9y9khbA9JCa+aGIEsdkE1CR+T+oDi3MK2Ercun+VGcRmEVCV2H64mQlil43EpptNYDVCQPbj P9vAekWAeie8PsIKcaiSxPTvt9kmMPLPQnLeLITzZiE5bwEj8ypGgaLUnMRKU73EgoKcVL3k /NxNjODgKozYwfh/mdUhRgEORiUe3hUhilFCrIllxZW5QP9zMCuJ8Mb6AYV4UxIrq1KL8uOL SnNSiw8xSnOwKInzflopHiUkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWgSTZeLglGpgbOoSY5HrzmWePsv0s1tsRLWf 2YtY3+iglOYfn1RbPR/PMF9Qv9r9G1f8MV2rkL+RNW89H7yOPfntrW6i4EExrRnfZPkO+J7q qLpSemiqX44++8b3VW7Gu5Qvn1ovsO733qpuHgOmv8GcTQ4OW3PMH3vdkLf5ddbi3Pt3StWi BsefbT1zfMdNJZbijERDLeai4kQAwFu9bCoCAAA= Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" I've setup a Github repository for this and any other informal documents we may want to develop: https://github.com/istopwg/pwg-books Everyone that is associated with the istopwg organization should have write access - please let me know your Github account if you need access. I'll push a directory with the initial outline below later today. Since this isn't a formal technical publication of the PWG, I'd like to do the text of the book as a series of Markdown files for each chapter - these can be reviewed (with history) through the Github site, and can be "published" to HTML, PDF, and EPUB files using my HTMLDOC software (https://michaelrsweet.github.io/htmldoc) for ease of distribution/viewing. For those not familiar with Markdown, here is the original post from Mark Gruber: https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax (HTMLDOC supports a subset of what is now known as "CommonMark") > On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > All, > > I'm seeing a lot of questions from users of different IPP-based projects (CUPS, node.js, etc.) that show a fundamental lack of understanding of basic IPP concepts - URIs, attribute syntaxes (types), etc. - and I generally hesitate before pointing them at the various specifications because IPP is such a large, multi-headed beast. > > Do people have any interest in working on an "IPP for Dummies" document that would provide a beginners (application developer's) guide to IPP? A rough table-of-contents might be: > > 1. Introduction > a. What is IPP? (short history) > b. URIs > c. Requests/Responses > d. Attributes and Groups > e. Attribute Syntaxes (types) > 2. Print Jobs > a. What are Print Jobs? > b. Job Description Attributes > c. Job Status Attributes > d. Job Template Attributes > e. Documents > 3. Printers > a. What are Printers? > b. Printer Description Attributes > c. Printer Status Attributes > d. Printer Capabilities > 4. Submitting Print Jobs > a. CUPS API Examples > b. Node.js API Examples > 5. Checking Job and Printer Status > a. CUPS API Examples > b. Node.js API Examples > 6. IPP Map > (visual map of IPP specifications) > > Thoughts? > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 1 07:18:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D811293EE for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 07:18:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CBWOHB3mq0ho for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 07:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABC7120713 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 07:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 15F232708; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480026D3; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8D92826D1; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.44]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 004BC2683 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.208]) by atl4mhob06.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id vB1FIRvr024109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:18:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 17218 invoked by uid 0); 1 Dec 2017 15:18:27 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 174.192.4.99 X-Authenticated-UID: ptykodi@tykodi.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?100.102.35.123?) (ptykodi@tykodi.com@174.192.4.99) by 0 with ESMTPA; 1 Dec 2017 15:18:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Paul Tykodi X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) In-Reply-To: <50B8601C-97A5-4401-9796-0E660F86FEA4@apple.com> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:18:25 -0500 Message-Id: <2859E5D0-99FA-465F-9F94-45B43523A9F5@tykodi.com> References: <792D6632-E17D-4139-A59D-B663C7210033@apple.com> <9C52CDCF-AB2D-4450-AA2C-526F092C99D9@hp.com> <53FD5445-3F24-4240-A72D-19FE49AF1B11@tykodi.com> <20171130225835.EF720269F@www.pwg.org> <50B8601C-97A5-4401-9796-0E660F86FEA4@apple.com> To: Michael Sweet Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: Re: [IPP] Interest in developing an "IPP for Dummies" document? X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Hi Mike, I have been seeing the exact same issue in the 3D space. If we are able to create a parallel 3D document, I can promote it via AMSC and ISO/IEC JTC1 efforts and then ask for feedback when developers start following the guidelines and building sample applications to test. Thanks. Best Regards, /Paul Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 1, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Bill, > >> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:58 PM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote: >> >> All, >> Interesting project. We could argue the outline order a bit. Although a clear presentation the basics is necessary, IPP as a way to interface with printers (lower case, hardcopy image-making device) has been around for ages and probably would not cause much excitement. Perhaps there would be more interest (and there certainly is more need) in aspects where there is not much implementation (and great potential); infra/cloud and scanning/image handling. And I wonder how much interest there would be from application developers without first getting their managers aware of the product advantages? > > I've been getting a lot of questions from application/framework developers on Linux (trying to modernize the Linux printing stack) as well as cloud service developers using things like Node.js to support printing. In both cases we are talking about the client-side interactions with an IPP Printer (locally or in "the cloud"), with the developer unsure about how IPP works or how to accomplish their task. > > What *I'm* envisioning is more of a high-level how-to guide for using IPP - that first chapter will get people needing to print (managers included) excited about IPP because a) it solves their problem and b) they know they will learn how to use it by reading the rest of the book. > > If we expand the scope too far (particularly into areas that haven't been widely implemented) then it (IMHO) will make the material less compelling and harder to approach. > > We don't need to document everything in one place. We don't need to answer every question. But we do need a way for new developers to get comfortable using IPP... > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer > > _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Dec 4 14:50:06 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0376C128D0F for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:50:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Co74cxl652Lw for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B9A128D44 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0C3F22812; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266EA26D1; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:49:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 3BE8926EA; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com (mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com [146.184.152.232]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD922697 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RDEXCHMAIL02.sc.rd.canon.com (unknown [146.184.20.22]) by mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com with smtp (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) id 1963_d895_bd0c994f_8296_49bc_a8be_af753dac4cb6; Mon, 04 Dec 2017 17:49:53 -0500 Received: from RDEXCHMAIL01.sc.rd.canon.com ([::1]) by RDEXCHMAIL02 ([146.184.20.22]) with mapi id 14.03.0279.002; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:49:53 -0800 From: "Yardumian, Rick" To: PWG IPP WG Reflector Thread-Topic: [IPP] IPP Last Call of IPP Presets Registration (Ends 10pm December 1, 2017) - feedback from Canon Thread-Index: AdNtUUIdZJMJHaXcRu++UBevIXMKbg== Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:49:51 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.50.56.142] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP Last Call of IPP Presets Registration (Ends 10pm December 1, 2017) - feedback from Canon X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Hi, Canon Japan emailed feedback on the IPP-Presets spec last Friday (12/1) but the IPP mail archive doesn't show it yet so I'm resending Canon's feedback. Canon wants to add the specification of passing "preset-name" strings to the printer, so that user can use unique function of printer, that is difficult to define as standard. Alternatively, Smith added following description. "A Client MUST copy all Preset member attributes (except "preset-name") from the selected Preset to the Job Creation Request, either with the values from the Preset or alternate values subsequently chosen by the User. This includes member attributes that the Client does not natively support." "A Client SHOULD list available Presets by name wherever it presents printing choices to the User. The Presets might have originated in the Printer or they might be local to the Client. When a User selects a Preset, the Client copies all Preset member attributes to the Job Creation Request. Client implementers might want to consider appropriate behavior in response to the User changing a setting and then the User chooses a Preset that overrides that earlier selection. The Client could notify the User that the setting will be changed. Alternately, the Client could apply the Preset but not change the setting changed by the User, or let the selected Preset overwrite the previous User selection." For this description, we pointed out "the data size of the Presets could be quite large." So, "Our concern is that client may end up NOT supporting Presets feature because of the issues above." Above problem, we think WG have not done enough discussion. As we interviewed some client members, they are thinking of some limitation for implementation of IPP preset. This means they are going not to be compliant with "A Client MUST copy all Preset member attributes". We are afraid it depends on client implementation. These are reasons we cannot agree current IPP Preset Registration. Our requests are, 1. Please include "preset-name" again. We heard the major reason for rejected is that adding the "preset-name" make printer implementation complex. But, for non-support printers, only skipping "preset-name". 2. Please answer, or more discuss about depending on client implementation problem. Again, we are afraid client may NOT support ALL COPY, or IPP PRESET itself. Best regards, Rick Yardumian, Canon -----Original Message----- From: ipp [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:25 PM To: PWG IPP WG Reflector Subject: [IPP] IPP Last Call of IPP Presets Registration (Ends 10pm December 1, 2017) All, This message begins the IPP Last Call of the IPP Presets registration which is available at the following URLs: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.odt Please review this registration and respond to the IPP mailing list (reply-all to this message is fine) with any feedback you have for the proposed registration. This IPP Last Call ends at 10pm PT on December 1, 2017. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Dec 4 17:19:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A6D1271DF for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:19:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.788 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.788 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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boundary="===============8858631640040610383==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============8858631640040610383== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_728307E2-A37A-476C-B8ED-262D1026FA4B"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_728307E2-A37A-476C-B8ED-262D1026FA4B Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B5D4CECC-D219-4CC6-87BC-64280449D045" --Apple-Mail=_B5D4CECC-D219-4CC6-87BC-64280449D045 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Rick, I'm sorry the Canon posting to the IPP WG reflector didn't go through. = Looking in my own client, I don't see it. I checked the moderator = request page in the list server's administrator page for the IPP WG, but = I don't see any pending messages that were blocked. Posting requires = subscription to the list, which is unencumbered by any moderator = approval and doesn't require membership in the PWG. However, to briefly respond to Canon's request that the IPP Presets = registration document should be updated to say that the Client MUST = return "preset-name" because there is the suspicion that the Client = might not send unsupported attributes listed in the preset, I do not = understand why Canon believes this actually resolves Canon's concerns: Even if a Client supports "job-presets-supported" insofar as it presents = the preset choices in its print dialog UI, it seems nearly as likely = that a Client might choose to not return "preset-name" as any other = attribute. As we discussed in the IPP WG, the Client is supposed to still allow the = User to make individual choices after selecting a Preset. If the Client = returns "preset-name", it becomes ambiguous at what point the = "preset-name" still applies if the user continues to make individual = choices. This could cause problems on the Printer because it may make = choices based on "preset-name" that are no longer germane based on the = rest of the User's choices as conveyed via the Job Template attributes. A vendor may create its own vendor-specific Job Template attribute = equivalent to "preset-name" (such as "canon-preset-name") and use that, = which is as likely to be conveyed as a standard "preset-name". Some client vendors have already expressed support for sending all the = attributes in a preset, including the vendor-specific ones. We have no = Client vendors that have expressed an objection to doing this. Are you = aware of any clients that are opposed to this? This is basically why we came to the state of IPP Presets as it exists = today, mandating that the Client send all the attributes in the Preset, = whether or not the Client supports them via UI controls. Is there = something that I or others in the IPP WG have missed? Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Yardumian, Rick = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Canon Japan emailed feedback on the IPP-Presets spec last Friday = (12/1) but the IPP mail archive doesn't show it yet so I'm resending = Canon's feedback. >=20 > Canon wants to add the specification of passing "preset-name" strings = to the printer, so that user can use unique function of printer, that is = difficult to define as standard. >=20 > Alternatively, Smith added following description. >=20 > "A Client MUST copy all Preset member attributes (except = "preset-name") from the selected Preset to the Job Creation Request, = either with the values from the Preset or alternate values subsequently = chosen by the User. > This includes member attributes that the Client does not natively = support." >=20 > "A Client SHOULD list available Presets by name wherever it presents = printing choices to the User. The Presets might have originated in the = Printer or they might be local to the Client. When a User selects a = Preset, the Client copies all Preset member attributes to the Job = Creation Request. > Client implementers might want to consider appropriate behavior in = response to the User changing a setting and then the User chooses a = Preset that overrides that earlier selection. > The Client could notify the User that the setting will be changed. > Alternately, the Client could apply the Preset but not change the = setting changed by the User, or let the selected Preset overwrite the = previous User selection." >=20 > For this description, we pointed out "the data size of the Presets = could be quite large." >=20 > So, > "Our concern is that client may end up NOT supporting Presets feature = because of the issues above." >=20 > Above problem, we think WG have not done enough discussion. > As we interviewed some client members, they are thinking of some = limitation for implementation of IPP preset. > This means they are going not to be compliant with "A Client MUST copy = all Preset member attributes". >=20 > We are afraid it depends on client implementation. >=20 > These are reasons we cannot agree current IPP Preset Registration. >=20 > Our requests are, >=20 > 1. Please include "preset-name" again. > We heard the major reason for rejected is that adding the = "preset-name" make printer implementation complex. > But, for non-support printers, only skipping "preset-name". >=20 > 2. Please answer, or more discuss about depending on client = implementation problem. > Again, we are afraid client may NOT support ALL COPY, or IPP PRESET = itself. >=20 > Best regards, > Rick Yardumian, Canon >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ipp [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:25 PM > To: PWG IPP WG Reflector > Subject: [IPP] IPP Last Call of IPP Presets Registration (Ends 10pm = December 1, 2017) >=20 > All, >=20 > This message begins the IPP Last Call of the IPP Presets registration = which is available at the following URLs: >=20 > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.pdf > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.odt >=20 > Please review this registration and respond to the IPP mailing list = (reply-all to this message is fine) with any feedback you have for the = proposed registration. >=20 > This IPP Last Call ends at 10pm PT on December 1, 2017. >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_B5D4CECC-D219-4CC6-87BC-64280449D045 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Rick,

I'm sorry the = Canon posting to the IPP WG reflector didn't go through. Looking in my = own client, I don't see it. I checked the moderator request page in the = list server's administrator page for the IPP WG, but I don't see any = pending messages that were blocked. Posting requires subscription to the = list, which is unencumbered by any moderator approval and doesn't = require membership in the PWG.

However, to briefly respond to Canon's = request that the IPP Presets registration document should be updated to = say that the Client MUST return "preset-name" because there is the = suspicion that the Client might not send unsupported attributes listed = in the preset, I do not understand why Canon believes this actually = resolves Canon's concerns:

  1. Even if a Client = supports "job-presets-supported" insofar as it presents the preset = choices in its print dialog UI, it seems nearly as likely that a Client = might choose to not return "preset-name" as any other attribute.
  2. As we discussed in the IPP WG, the Client is supposed to = still allow the User to make individual choices after selecting a = Preset. If the Client returns "preset-name", it becomes ambiguous at = what point the "preset-name" still applies if the user continues to make = individual choices. This could cause problems on the Printer because it = may make choices based on "preset-name" that are no longer germane based = on the rest of the User's choices as conveyed via the Job Template = attributes.
  3. A vendor may create its own = vendor-specific Job Template attribute equivalent to "preset-name" (such = as "canon-preset-name") and use that, which is as likely to be conveyed = as a standard "preset-name".
  4. Some client vendors have = already expressed support for sending all the attributes in a preset, = including the vendor-specific ones. We have no Client vendors that have = expressed an objection to doing this. Are you aware of any clients that = are opposed to this?

This is basically why we came to = the state of IPP Presets as it exists today, mandating that the Client = send all the attributes in the Preset, whether or not the Client = supports them via UI controls. Is there something that I or others in = the IPP WG have missed?

Cheers,

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Yardumian, Rick <RYardumian@ciis.canon.com> wrote:

Hi,
Canon Japan emailed feedback on the = IPP-Presets spec last Friday (12/1) but the IPP mail archive doesn't = show it yet so I'm resending Canon's feedback.

Canon wants to add the specification of passing "preset-name" = strings to the printer, so that user can use unique function of printer, = that is difficult to define as standard.

Alternatively, Smith added following description.

"A Client MUST copy all Preset member = attributes (except "preset-name") from the selected Preset to the Job = Creation Request, either with the values from the Preset or alternate = values subsequently chosen by the User.
This includes = member attributes that the Client does not natively support."

"A Client SHOULD list available Presets by = name wherever it presents printing choices to the User. The Presets = might have originated in the Printer or they might be local to the = Client. When a User selects a Preset, the Client copies all Preset = member attributes to the Job Creation Request.
Client = implementers might want to consider appropriate behavior in response to = the User changing a setting and then the User chooses a Preset that = overrides that earlier selection.
The Client could notify = the User that the setting will be changed.
Alternately, = the Client could apply the Preset but not change the setting changed by = the User, or let the selected Preset overwrite the previous User = selection."

For this description, we = pointed out "the data size of the Presets could be quite large."

So,
"Our concern is that client = may end up NOT supporting Presets feature because of the issues = above."

Above problem, we think WG have not = done enough discussion.
As we interviewed some client = members, they are thinking of some limitation for implementation of IPP = preset.
This means they are going not to be compliant with = "A Client MUST copy all Preset member attributes".

We are afraid it depends on client implementation.

These are reasons we cannot agree current IPP = Preset Registration.

Our requests are,

1. Please include "preset-name" again.
We heard the major reason for rejected is that adding the = "preset-name" make printer implementation complex.
But, = for non-support printers, only skipping "preset-name".

2. Please answer, or more discuss about depending on client = implementation problem.
Again, we are afraid client may = NOT support ALL COPY, or IPP PRESET itself.

Best regards,
Rick Yardumian, Canon

-----Original Message-----
From: = ipp [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:25 PM
To: = PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: [IPP] IPP Last Call of IPP = Presets Registration (Ends 10pm December 1, 2017)

All,

This message begins the IPP = Last Call of the IPP Presets registration which is available at the = following URLs:

   http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.pdf=
   http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.odt=

Please review this registration and = respond to the IPP mailing list (reply-all to this message is fine) with = any feedback you have for the proposed registration.

This IPP Last Call ends at 10pm PT on December 1, 2017.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] First draft of IPP "save-password" whitepaper posted for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1631537370490899069==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1631537370490899069== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_37D9E506-F918-4149-B951-7E8C6CFEC1B8"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_37D9E506-F918-4149-B951-7E8C6CFEC1B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I had an action item to create a whitepaper to define a new = "save-password" attribute and related set of attributes to handle the = scenario where we wanted basically an attribute equivalent to = "job-password" but that would persist and be preserved even as a saved = job. I have posted a first draft of this whitepaper for review: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.odt I don't know that I will be able to review this Thursday but wanted to = get it out there. 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Updated draft of IPP Authentication Methods whitepaper available for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Greetings, I have uploaded a new draft of the IPP Authentication Methods whitepaper for review. It is available here: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205-rev.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205-rev.odt Notable changes in this draft include: * Corrected OAuth2 sequence diagram to more correctly describe the sequence of operations and actors involved in an OAuth2 authenticated IPP Printer scenario. * Added Implementation Recommendations that were revealed during the course of correcting the OAuth2 sequence diagram. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed Dec 6 16:46:00 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32A8126B6E for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:46:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P04QjRCdTwsS for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34182128B4E for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A8E51415D; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F81226EF; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:45:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0DDF126F0; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt0-x235.google.com (mail-qt0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::235]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8695726D1 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt0-x235.google.com with SMTP id d4so13651050qtj.5 for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 16:45:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UaqiIt4ld4sbslQathWFjw0qmwAlfPKiCuxIE2T3cb8=; b=L4nMkEbb0zarps+kyM8KG2DIeaojIAucRr4zwjPAYRdJdCvYZh7wDD35YC5cOLt6fU DYj08VvMwB90Y8dNuKIRn+ZtmVisD+BlZwK7SiWl8fnY1mrlOcj41kaL5SUc6PfGWnJt ffKRJUIfFnNHKZCbWCs/OYmsVWdwwfL+OoOaNzdLE7+K7YfXsyLOp0hS6pxQipVpndcC S8zKzfashvqdV8HbyPvjaOmHKwDAE4LouzRoKKDauVHQhHrUrqqQThofobmo+G05QbMM hB/Ctscx3DbySUxf73aXRSNvE2KJoAhIFkLWxOUYT5KHzVKhh960w88loOBQMJsPTL76 Ll1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UaqiIt4ld4sbslQathWFjw0qmwAlfPKiCuxIE2T3cb8=; b=cuZg3JEHiJnnziU20DP6xLl/zIFS0xINkh6dxTNHD0jLi7JVah1zTYbgRjmiQVqUqq 4GfgNEpf2YxDXzm0AwErZ6NVO+uFrZBAxIobBOyyG1HjUL5PcoQWwRetdzg703FPkVtg Gtb60oDKHI2q1BoDp7SojIERkjD4wmxOICHdjEM9XsejhEe15GGJmOuoKHPpLtqN2VCR JrQH4gmkeMx5rYnDrf0n1XAmxSm2hB6880717le4eJ/9FHHx6uWuv7tAWHpceI8q8/pf tflKJDhUyEUjXzJ3mBzLU86ClX3U2lrHyuc+xG/I7uEtOJlm0ZYdCydINtorezZWQ2m4 uQtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKcrrOe5mUJmbpV4gj+5Pk0GhKmpCIBlHkPEsfstak39ve5e/TU ASycnjoxMQv6PtehAoO7mgRGuiolW5DpTsz80ZA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZ6HoUiZTj7rvR7/0l33uzJ53Ge3ydWKyzaMGz2UuTlSa2s+73P8BEy3sr552yZ23LCQKzT1dBtVJ/7u43aBkM= X-Received: by 10.237.62.5 with SMTP id l5mr7280604qtf.299.1512607551614; Wed, 06 Dec 2017 16:45:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.20.141 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:45:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 19:45:30 -0500 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Tomorrow's IPP meeting RESCHEDULED to 12/14/17 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1364612256913869402==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1364612256913869402== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11417d2ccc7288055fb563db" --001a11417d2ccc7288055fb563db Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Due to schedule conflicts, tomorrow's IPP call has been MOVED one week later to 12/14/17. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a11417d2ccc7288055fb563db Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Due to schedule confl= icts, tomorrow's IPP call has been
MOVED one week later to 12/= 14/17.

Cheers,
- Ira

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Ira McDonald (Musician / S= oftware Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair= - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Worki= ng Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF = Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North I= nc
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http://sites.google.com/site/highnort= hinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline= , MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, I just did a read of this draft and wanted to provide some feedback while it is fresh in my mind: - Section 1: some mention of job-password being a Job Template attribute, but it is an operation attribute (which is correctly noted in subsequent sections - Section 4.2: Any password attribute needs to be protected, so these should be operation attributes and not Job Template... - Section 6: Will obviously need a lot of discussion of how to protect and handle the passwords. Overall I'm still not sure about the use case for this, or how it would all work together. Is this an extension of "job-save-disposition", where the password would be used for the saved document? If so, I'd recommend that the attributes be called "job-save-password[-xxx]" to make that clearer, and add some discussion of that. Also, how does a Client re-print the saved job? Resubmit-Job with "document-password"? > On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I had an action item to create a whitepaper to define a new "save-password" attribute and related set of attributes to handle the scenario where we wanted basically an attribute equivalent to "job-password" but that would persist and be preserved even as a saved job. I have posted a first draft of this whitepaper for review: > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.odt > > I don't know that I will be able to review this Thursday but wanted to get it out there. > > Cheers, > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 8 05:58:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9B2126C89 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, Couple quick editorial notes on the latest draft: - Section 3: Suggest title be changed to "Overview of IPP Authentication Methods"; it isn't really rationale, and this isn't a standards track document, so I think we can relax the usual boilerplate stuff. - Section 3.1: Also mention printer-xri-supported's xri-authentication member attribute (RFC3380) - Section 3.1.3: Line 111 should say "HTTP Basic" (capitalized, no quotes around Basic) - Section 3.1.4: Line 121 should say "HTTP Digest" (capitalized, no quotes around Digest) - Section 3.1.5: Ditto for Negotiate - Section 3.1.6: "HTTP Bearer Token Usage", RFC 6750 (5749 is OAuth 1.0) - Section 3.1.x: Add section on 'certificate' - requires TLS, which can be done inline with HTTP Upgrade > On Dec 5, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have uploaded a new draft of the IPP Authentication Methods whitepaper for review. It is available here: > > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205.odt > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205-rev.pdf > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205-rev.odt > > Notable changes in this draft include: > > * Corrected OAuth2 sequence diagram to more correctly describe the sequence of operations and actors involved in an OAuth2 authenticated IPP Printer scenario. > > * Added Implementation Recommendations that were revealed during the course of correcting the OAuth2 sequence diagram. > > Cheers, > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Mon Dec 11 13:37:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3A5128B37 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:37:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3rxAHORDG7QK for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [50.116.7.199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5360128B38 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E85234403; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233A526F3; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: by www.pwg.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2B7F43D66; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com (mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com [146.184.152.232]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89FFB2687 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RDEXCHMAIL02.sc.rd.canon.com (unknown [146.184.20.22]) by mailgrd17.cusa.canon.com with smtp (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) id 4f71_23c3_efae6bdd_5eee_4576_9a1a_28ae4a66de84; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:37:26 -0500 Received: from RDEXCHMAIL01.sc.rd.canon.com ([::1]) by RDEXCHMAIL02 ([146.184.20.22]) with mapi id 14.03.0279.002; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:37:26 -0800 From: "Yardumian, Rick" To: "ipp@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: IPP-Presets: Canon withdraws their issues Thread-Index: AdNyyBROcfpwbgo/Sz+JAzv1q2eElg== Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:37:25 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.50.56.124] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [IPP] IPP-Presets: Canon withdraws their issues X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0438276760721259116==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0438276760721259116== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B09B928B11A36543865AFB7D94C2393D02FA0E7E62RDEXCHMAIL01s_" --_000_B09B928B11A36543865AFB7D94C2393D02FA0E7E62RDEXCHMAIL01s_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Canon's issues with the IPP-Presets proposal have been resolved. 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Hi,

 

Canon’s issues with the IPP-Presets proposal h= ave been resolved. Canon is OK with the current IPP Presets proposal.<= /o:p>

 

Best regards,

Rick

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Hi there, What do I need to do to finalize this? Should we re-release it as an IPP Registration? Or just publish an updated editorial draft with the erroneous bits fixed but the same publication date? And for any of these IPP Registrations, I think we need to add another sub-section of the "Published Work" tab of the IPP WG page (https://www.pwg.org/ipp/). Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue Dec 12 05:45:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA0F128B88 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 05:45:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.547 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5937041247203821332==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5937041247203821332== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_mIW8cftLVsfSAIaQKuGz1w)" --Boundary_(ID_mIW8cftLVsfSAIaQKuGz1w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, > On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:52 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: > > Hi there, > > What do I need to do to finalize this? Should we re-release it as an IPP Registration? Or just publish an updated editorial draft with the erroneous bits fixed but the same publication date? If you are up to pushing out an update, feel free, but I think we were happy with it as originally "published", and it was added to the IANA IPP registry. > And for any of these IPP Registrations, I think we need to add another sub-section of the "Published Work" tab of the IPP WG page (https://www.pwg.org/ipp/). I have one commented out, just waiting for our first published registration... :) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_mIW8cftLVsfSAIaQKuGz1w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,

On = Dec 12, 2017, at 12:52 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi = there,

What do I need to do to finalize = this? Should we re-release it as an IPP Registration? Or just publish an = updated editorial draft with the erroneous bits fixed but the same = publication date?

If you are up to pushing out an update, = feel free, but I think we were happy with it as originally "published", = and it was added to the IANA IPP registry.

And for any of these IPP Registrations, I think we need to = add another sub-section of the "Published Work" tab of the IPP WG page = (https://www.pwg.org/ipp/).

I have one = commented out, just waiting for our first published registration... = :)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5885912831910145854==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5885912831910145854== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7626D8E1-7C1C-4AFA-992F-6A049BA1F70D"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_7626D8E1-7C1C-4AFA-992F-6A049BA1F70D Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0348A4FD-9BC9-44BB-80B4-EC187A0FE98A" --Apple-Mail=_0348A4FD-9BC9-44BB-80B4-EC187A0FE98A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Dec 12, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 >> On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:52 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi there, >>=20 >> What do I need to do to finalize this? Should we re-release it as an = IPP Registration? Or just publish an updated editorial draft with the = erroneous bits fixed but the same publication date? >=20 > If you are up to pushing out an update, feel free, but I think we were = happy with it as originally "published", and it was added to the IANA = IPP registry. We may have been internally, but I have been contacted a number of times = by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" is fully ratified, = since the current document lists its status as "Draft" and it isn't = listed anywhere on the IPP WG page. I thought we had discussed this in an earlier IPP WG meeting... >=20 >> And for any of these IPP Registrations, I think we need to add = another sub-section of the "Published Work" tab of the IPP WG page = (https://www.pwg.org/ipp/ ). >=20 > I have one commented out, just waiting for our first published = registration... :) >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0348A4FD-9BC9-44BB-80B4-EC187A0FE98A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Dec 12, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

Smith,

On Dec = 12, 2017, at 12:52 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi = there,

What do I need to do to finalize = this? Should we re-release it as an IPP Registration? Or just publish an = updated editorial draft with the erroneous bits fixed but the same = publication date?

If you are up to pushing = out an update, feel free, but I think we were happy with it as = originally "published", and it was added to the IANA IPP = registry.

We may have been internally, but I have been contacted = a number of times by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" = is fully ratified, since the current document lists its status as = "Draft" and it isn't listed anywhere on the IPP WG page.

I thought we had discussed this in an earlier IPP = WG meeting...


And for any of these IPP Registrations, I think we need to = add another sub-section of the "Published Work" tab of the IPP WG page = (https://www.pwg.org/ipp/).

I= have one commented out, just waiting for our first published = registration... :)

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer


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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6197482040070636180==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6197482040070636180== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OiGcXUGKUV6I4Avoj7PAdQ)" --Boundary_(ID_OiGcXUGKUV6I4Avoj7PAdQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Smith, > On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) wrote: >> ... >> If you are up to pushing out an update, feel free, but I think we were happy with it as originally "published", and it was added to the IANA IPP registry. > > We may have been internally, but I have been contacted a number of times by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" is fully ratified, since the current document lists its status as "Draft" and it isn't listed anywhere on the IPP WG page. > > I thought we had discussed this in an earlier IPP WG meeting... > Maybe, I can't recall. Feel free to post an update if you like, and I'll reference on the published tab. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Boundary_(ID_OiGcXUGKUV6I4Avoj7PAdQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Smith,


On Dec = 12, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
...
If you are up to pushing out = an update, feel free, but I think we were happy with it as originally = "published", and it was added to the IANA IPP = registry.

We may have been internally, but I have been contacted = a number of times by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" = is fully ratified, since the current document lists its status as = "Draft" and it isn't listed anywhere on the IPP WG page.

I thought we had = discussed this in an earlier IPP WG meeting...


Maybe, I can't recall.  Feel free to post an = update if you like, and I'll reference on the published tab.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer

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X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0449188054091847936==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0449188054091847936== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_180A2CB7-2D6E-49E9-ABC2-AC7B52AE00DF"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_180A2CB7-2D6E-49E9-ABC2-AC7B52AE00DF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0D193841-A2EC-4A82-BE18-8AA3C54610A7" --Apple-Mail=_0D193841-A2EC-4A82-BE18-8AA3C54610A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Updated with "Final" status and a few editorial cleanups: = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repertoire-2016= 0101.pdf = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repertoire-2016= 0101.docx = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repertoire-2016= 0101-rev.pdf = =20 = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repertoire-2016= 0101-rev.docx = =20 Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) > wrote: >>> ... >>> If you are up to pushing out an update, feel free, but I think we = were happy with it as originally "published", and it was added to the = IANA IPP registry. >>=20 >> We may have been internally, but I have been contacted a number of = times by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" is fully = ratified, since the current document lists its status as "Draft" and it = isn't listed anywhere on the IPP WG page. >>=20 >> I thought we had discussed this in an earlier IPP WG meeting... >>=20 >=20 > Maybe, I can't recall. Feel free to post an update if you like, and = I'll reference on the published tab. >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0D193841-A2EC-4A82-BE18-8AA3C54610A7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Updated with "Final" status and a few editorial cleanups:

  =  https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repe= rtoire-20160101.pdf 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repe= rtoire-20160101.docx 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repe= rtoire-20160101-rev.pdf 
   https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/wp-job-password-repe= rtoire-20160101-rev.docx 

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

Smith,


On Dec = 12, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architec) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:
...
If you are up to pushing out = an update, feel free, but I think we were happy with it as originally = "published", and it was added to the IANA IPP = registry.

We may have been internally, but I have been contacted = a number of times by people wondering whether "job-password-repertoire" = is fully ratified, since the current document lists its status as = "Draft" and it isn't listed anywhere on the IPP WG page.

I thought we had = discussed this in an earlier IPP WG meeting...


Maybe, I can't recall.  Feel free = to post an update if you like, and I'll reference on the published = tab.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing = System Engineer


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Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Agenda 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern (14 December 2017) X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6473637765782557264==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============6473637765782557264== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11417d2c8c99d605604f6c16" --001a11417d2c8c99d605604f6c16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, [with apologies for belated agenda] Our next IPP WG call will be Thursday 14 December 2017 at 12:00-1:30pm US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: IPP WG Every 2 weeks on Thursday, from Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date 3:00 pm | Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00) | 1 hr 30 mins ------------------------------------------------------- WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.php?MTID=m0359478143 ca01e059a570ada91f3573 2. If requested, enter your name and email address. 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: Printing123 4. Click "Join". ------------------------------------------------------- Audio Bridge (join second w/ unique access code from WebEx) ------------------------------------------------------- Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239 <%28866%29%20469-3239> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300 <%28650%29%20429-3300> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570 <%28408%29%20856-9570> Global toll-free call in numbers and other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you join the WebEx meeting. Unique attendee access code: Displayed in the WebEx meeting Agenda: (1) PWG IP Policy, Minute Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review - Mike as minute taker? (2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20171109.pdf -- IPP WG call on 11/09/17 - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20171115.pdf -- IPP sessions at PWG F2F on 11/15-16/17 (3) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20171115.htm -- see PWG F2F minutes 11/15/17 (4) Proposal for IPP for Dummies guide (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019432.html -- positive responses from Smith, Bill, Paul, Pete Z -- Schedule - TBD (5) Approval of Get-User-Printer-Attributes (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171117.pdf -- IPP WG adopted for registration track - WG LC ended 12/01/17 -- Schedule - IPP WG approve and register w/ IANA (6) Approval of IPP Presets (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.pdf -- IPP WG adopted for registration track - WG LC ended 12/01/17 -- Schedule - IPP WG approve and register w/ IANA (7) Status of IPP HTTP Authentication whitepaper (Smith) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-ippauth-20171205-rev.pdf -- PWG F2F review on 11/16/17 -- Schedule - TBD (8) Status/Review of Multipurpose Tray best practices (Mike) - http://www.pwg.org/archives/ipp/2017/019430.html - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-sweet-mptray-20171127.pdf -- first draft on 12/05/17 -- Schedule - TBD (9) Status/Review of Job Save Password (Smith) - https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.pdf -- first draft of whitepaper - review in IPP WG calls -- Schedule - TBD (10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mike) - http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20171117-rev.pdf -- Prototype draft - PWG F2F review on 11/15/17 -- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q1 2018 (11) Next steps - IPP WG call on Thu 21 December 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics - Ira probably not available (moving "south for winter") - IPP WG call on Thu 4 January 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern -- regular topics Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a11417d2c8c99d605604f6c16 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

[with apologie= s for belated agenda]

<= div>Our next IPP<= /span> WG call will be Thursday 14 December 2017 at
12:00-1:30pm = US Pacific / 3:00pm-4:30pm US Eastern

NOTE: Please USE the *new* WebEx and Audio Bridge below <= br>

---------------------------------------------= ----------
Meeting information
---------------------------------= ----------------------
Topic: IPP WG
Every 2 weeks on Thursday, f= rom Thursday, May 11, 2017, to no end date
3:00 pm=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2= =A0Eastern Standard Time (New York, GMT-05:00)=C2=A0=C2=A0|=C2=A0=C2=A01 hr= 30 mins

------------------------------= -------------------------
WebEx online meeting (join first, before audio bridge)
--------= -----------------------------------------------
1. Go to https://ieee-isto.webex.com/ieee-isto/j.= php?MTID=3Dm0359478143ca01e059a570ada91f3573
2. If requested, e= nter your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter th= e meeting password: Printing123
4. Click "Join".

------= -------------------------------------------------
Audio Brid= ge (join second w/ unique a= ccess code from WebEx)
-------------------------------------= ------------------
Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 8= 66 469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300<= br>Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570

Global toll-free call in numbers and= other audio options ("Call Me Back" or VoIP) are listed once you= join the WebEx meeting.

Unique attendee access code:=C2=A0 Displaye= d in the WebEx meeting

Agenda:
(1) PWG IP Policy, Minut= e Taker, Roll Call, and Agenda Review
- Mike as minute taker?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meetings
-- IPP sessions at PWG F2F on 11/15-16/17
(3) Status of AMSC and ISO liaisons w/ PWG (Paul)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minute= s/pwg-plenary-minutes-20171115.htm
-- see PWG F2F minutes 11/= 15/17

(4) Proposal for I= PP for Dummies guide (Mike)
-- positive responses from Smith, Bill, Paul, Pete Z
-- Schedule - TBD

-- IPP WG adopted for regis= tration track - WG LC ended 12/01/17
-- Schedule - IPP WG app= rove and register w/ IANA

(6) Approval of IPP Presets (Smith)
- https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ipppreset-20171116.pdf
-- Schedule - IPP WG approve and register w/ IANA

-- PWG F2F review on 11/16/17
= -- Schedule - TBD

(8) Status/Review = of Multipurpose Tray best practices (Mike)<= /div>-- first draft= on 12/05/17
-- Schedule - TBD

(9) Statu= s/Review of Job Save Password (Smith)
- https= ://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20171205.pdf
<= /div>-- first draft of whitepaper - review in IPP WG calls
-- Schedul= e - TBD

(10) Review of IPP System Service (Ira/Mi= ke)
- http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsyste= m10-20171117-rev.pdf
-- Prototype draft - PWG F2F review on 11/15/17=
-- Schedule - prototype in "ippserver" - Stable draft in Q1 2= 018

(11) Next steps

- IPP WG call on Thu 21 December 2017 at 3:00-4:30pm U= S Eastern
-- regular topics - Ira probably not available (moving &= quot;south for winter")

- IPP WG call on Thu 4 January = 2018 at 3:00-4:30pm US Eastern
-- regular topics
Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician= / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
C= hair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer W= orking Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
I= ETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High Nor= th Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroo= fmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/high= northinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Jan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 = Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Gran= d Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

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Here is the webpage: https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018 Why should you care? We organized the first OAuth security workshop in 2015 when a group of researchers from Trier / Germany used formal methods to analyse OAuth. None of us working on the OAuth spec had the time and expertise to use formal methods and we noticed the opportunity to work with this research community to help us build better specifications. At all subsequent OAuth security workshops, including the last one in Zurich - https://zisc.ethz.ch/oauth-security-workshop-2017/, one part of the meeting was dedicated to the discussion of formal methods for protocol analysis. This workshop is therefore a way to bridge the gap between research and standardization with OAuth as an example. The discussed tools are applicable to other IETF security protocols as well. The same is true for the gained experience. It would be great to see some of you also attend the workshop and contribute! The deadline for papers and tutorials is January 19, 2018. If you are working on topics that could help make standardization of OAuth (or other security protocols) better please drop us/me a note. Ciao Hannes Call for Position Papers and Tutorials =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D Third OAuth Security Workshop (OSW 2018) Fondazione Bruno Kessler Trento, Italy March 14-16, 2018 Workshop website: https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018 =3D=3D About OSW 2018 =3D=3D The OAuth Security Workshop (OSW) aim is to improve the security of OAuth and related Internet protocols by a direct exchange of views between academic researchers, IETF OAuth Working Group members and industry. The workshop is hosted by the Security and Trust research unit of the Bruno Kessler Foundation (FBK). While the standardization process of OAuth ensures extensive reviews (both security and non-security related), further analysis by security experts from academia and industry is essential to ensure high quality specifications. Contributions to this workshop can help to improve the security of the Web and the Internet. =3D=3D Scope and Topics =3D=3D We seek position papers related to OAuth, OpenID Connect, and other technologies using OAuth under the hood. Contributions regarding technologies that are used in OAuth, such as JOSE, or impact the security of OAuth, such as Web technology, are also welcome. Areas of interest where OAuth can be used as enabler of innovative scenarios include: - IoT, SmartCities and Industry 4.0. - Mobile and Strong authentication. - Federated Identity. - Privacy-enhancing technologies. =3D=3D Important Dates =3D=3D - Position paper and Tutorial submission deadline: January 19, 2018 (AoE, UTC-12). - Author notification: February 5, 2018 - Workshop: Wed, March 14, 2018 (half-day), Thu, March 15, 2018 (full-day), and Fri, March 16, 2018 (half day) =3D=3D Submissions =3D=3D We solicit position papers that highlight challenges and lesson-learned from OAuth-based work. As all papers and presentations will be shared online without formal proceedings, we accept different kinds of submissions= : from original contributions to already published or preliminary works. Submissions must be in PDF format and should feature reasonable margins and formatting. There is no page limit, but the submission should be brief (ideally not more than 3-5 pages). Submissions should not be anonymized. Authors of accepted papers will have the option to revise their papers before they are put online. One of the authors of the accepted position paper is expected to present the paper at the workshop. The workshop will host a half-day (March 14, 2018) tutorial program. Each tutorial proposal should concisely describe the content and objectives of the tutorial, and include: - title - abstract - outline of the tutorial content - intended audience, including possible assumed background of attendees - name, affiliation, email address, and brief biography of the speaker(s) - duration: 1 hour or 2 hours Tutorial proposals should be submitted as a PDF file. Submissions should be distinguished by the prefix =E2=80=9CTutorial:=E2=80= =9D in the title. Submission Website: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=3Dosw2018 =3D=3D IPR Policy =3D=3D The workshop will have no expectation of IPR disclosure or licensing related to its submissions. Authors are responsible for obtaining appropriate publication clearances. =3D=3D Workshop Chair =3D=3D - Silvio Ranise (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler) =3D=3D Program Committee =3D=3D Chairs - Roberto Carbone (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler) - Hannes Tschofenig (IETF OAuth Working Group Co-Chair) Members - Michael Jones (Microsoft) - Ralf Kuesters (University of Stuttgart) - Torsten Lodderstedt (YES Europe AG) - Chris Mitchell (Royal Holloway, University of London) - Anthony Nadalin (Microsoft) - Nat Sakimura (Nomura Research Institute) - Antonio Sanso (Adobe) - Ralf Sasse (ETH Zurich) - Joerg Schwenk (Ruhr-Universit=C3=A4t Bochum) - Giada Sciarretta (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler and Univ. of Trento) =3D=3D Conference site and contacts =3D=3D For more detailed information please refer to the workshop web site: https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018 If you have any questions on OSW18, please contact carbone [at] fbk [dot] eu, giada.sciarretta [at] fbk [dot] eu _______________________________________________ saag mailing list saag@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag --089e0828a8fcc01c1705605319f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded message ----------
F= rom: Hannes Tschofenig = <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net<= /a>>
Date: Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:06 AM
Subject: [saag] 3rd= OAuth Security Workshop (OSW 2018)
To: saag <saag@ietf.org>


Hi all,

Several of us from the OAuth working group are again organizing a
workshop in the week before the London IETF meeting. Here is the
webpage: https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018

Why should you care?

We organized the first OAuth security workshop in 2015 when a group of
researchers from Trier / Germany used formal methods to analyse OAuth.
None of us working on the OAuth spec had the time and expertise to use
formal methods and we noticed the opportunity to work with this research community to help us build better specifications. At all subsequent
OAuth security workshops, including the last one in Zurich -
https://zisc.ethz.ch/oauth-security-workshop-= 2017/, one part of the
meeting was dedicated to the discussion of formal methods for protocol
analysis.

This workshop is therefore a way to bridge the gap between research and
standardization with OAuth as an example. The discussed tools are
applicable to other IETF security protocols as well. The same is true
for the gained experience.

It would be great to see some of you also attend the workshop and
contribute! The deadline for papers and tutorials is January 19, 2018.
If you are working on topics that could help make standardization of
OAuth (or other security protocols) better please drop us/me a note.

Ciao
Hannes

Call for Position Papers and Tutorials
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D

Third OAuth Security Workshop (OSW 2018)
Fondazione Bruno Kessler
Trento, Italy
March 14-16, 2018
Workshop website: https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018


=3D=3D About OSW 2018 =3D=3D

The OAuth Security Workshop (OSW) aim is to improve the
security of OAuth and related Internet protocols by a direct
exchange of views between academic researchers, IETF
OAuth Working Group members and industry. The workshop
is hosted by the Security and Trust research unit of the
Bruno Kessler Foundation (FBK).

While the standardization process of OAuth ensures extensive reviews
(both security and non-security related), further analysis by security
experts from academia and industry is essential to ensure high quality
specifications. Contributions to this workshop can help to improve the
security of the Web and the Internet.


=3D=3D Scope and Topics =3D=3D

We seek position papers related to OAuth, OpenID Connect, and other
technologies using OAuth under the hood. Contributions regarding
technologies that are used in OAuth, such as JOSE, or impact the
security of OAuth, such as Web technology, are also welcome.

Areas of interest where OAuth can be used as enabler of innovative
scenarios include:
- IoT, SmartCities and Industry 4.0.
- Mobile and Strong authentication.
- Federated Identity.
- Privacy-enhancing technologies.


=3D=3D Important Dates =3D=3D

- Position paper and Tutorial submission deadline: January 19, 2018
(AoE, UTC-12).
- Author notification:=C2=A0 February 5, 2018
- Workshop: Wed, March 14, 2018 (half-day), Thu, March 15, 2018
(full-day), and
=C2=A0 Fri, March 16, 2018 (half day)

=3D=3D Submissions =3D=3D

We solicit position papers that highlight challenges and lesson-learned
from OAuth-based work. As all papers and presentations will be shared
online without formal proceedings, we accept different kinds of submissions= :
from original contributions to already published or preliminary works.

Submissions must be in PDF format and should feature reasonable margins
and formatting. There is no page limit, but the submission should be
brief (ideally not more than 3-5 pages).=C2=A0 Submissions should not
be anonymized.

Authors of accepted papers will have the option to revise their
papers before they are put online. One of the authors of the accepted
position paper is expected to present the paper at the workshop.

The workshop will host a half-day (March 14, 2018) tutorial program.
Each tutorial proposal should concisely describe the content and
objectives of the tutorial, and include:
- title
- abstract
- outline of the tutorial content
- intended audience, including possible assumed background of attendees
- name, affiliation, email address, and brief biography of the speaker(s) - duration: 1 hour or 2 hours

Tutorial proposals should be submitted as a PDF file.
Submissions should be distinguished by the prefix =E2=80=9CTutorial:=E2=80= =9D in the title.

Submission Website: https://easychair.org/conf= erences/?conf=3Dosw2018


=3D=3D IPR Policy =3D=3D

The workshop will have no expectation of IPR disclosure or licensing
related to its submissions. Authors are responsible for obtaining
appropriate publication clearances.


=3D=3D Workshop Chair =3D=3D

- Silvio Ranise (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler)


=3D=3D Program Committee =3D=3D

Chairs
- Roberto Carbone (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler)
- Hannes Tschofenig (IETF OAuth Working Group Co-Chair)

Members
- Michael Jones (Microsoft)
- Ralf Kuesters (University of Stuttgart)
- Torsten Lodderstedt (YES Europe AG)
- Chris Mitchell (Royal Holloway, University of London)
- Anthony Nadalin (Microsoft)
- Nat Sakimura (Nomura Research Institute)
- Antonio Sanso (Adobe)
- Ralf Sasse (ETH Zurich)
- Joerg Schwenk (Ruhr-Universit=C3=A4t Bochum)
- Giada Sciarretta (Security & Trust, Fondazione Bruno Kessler and Univ= .
of Trento)


=3D=3D Conference site and contacts =3D=3D

For more detailed information please refer to the workshop web site:
= https://st.fbk.eu/osw2018

If you have any questions on OSW18, please contact
carbone [at] fbk [dot] eu, giada.sciarretta [at] fbk [dot] eu

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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag

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Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:01:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.20.141 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:01:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ira McDonald Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:01:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: "ipp@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [IPP] Schedule - Cancel 12/21/17 - Resume 01/04/18 X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1645968322106691706==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============1645968322106691706== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c042bcc4efae805605408e9" --94eb2c042bcc4efae805605408e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, We decided at today's IPP WG call to cancel our call on the regular cadence next week (12/21/17) and resume two weeks later in January (01/04/18). Have safe and happy holidays. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --94eb2c042bcc4efae805605408e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

We decided at today's IPP W= G call to cancel our call on
the regular cadence next week (12/21= /17) and resume
two weeks later in January (01/04/18).
=
Have safe and happy holidays.

Cheer= s,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TC= G Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing W= G
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PW= G Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Print= er MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
= http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.comJan-April: 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
May-Dec: PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
=
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Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:22:32 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11973e16-c4c259c00000221c-e5-5a344b28e170 Received: from nwk-mmpp-sz11.apple.com (nwk-mmpp-sz11.apple.com [17.128.115.155]) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 6B.E7.22651.82B443A5; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:22:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [17.235.53.85] by nwk-mmpp-sz11.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.2.1.20171204 64bit (built Dec 4 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P1000LS5WTILP50@nwk-mmpp-sz11.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:22:30 -0500 Message-id: To: PWG IPP WG Reflector X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFuplluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbChM09XwNokyOL5X2+LYvpcsDowe8xZP ZwpgjOKySUnNySxLLdK3S+DKaDiykbHgIkvF6RkH2RoYG1m6GDk5JARMJE4f3s/axcjFISSw hkliw+I5bDCJxk+f2CAShxglWhtmgHXwCghK/Jh8D8jm4GAWkJc4eF4WJMwsoCXx/VErC0R9 C5PE/on3GUESwgISEsf7F7KC2GwCahK/J/WB2SwCqhIrn76DqrGT+NRyhR1ivo3EsevzmEFs EaD6Ca+PsEIcpCQx/fttsIMkBE6ySsxa8oh1AqPALCQ3zUK4aRaSmxYwMq9iFMpNzMzRzcwz 10ssKMhJ1UvOz93ECAq/6XZiOxgfrrI6xCjAwajEwytwyzhKiDWxrLgy9xCjNAeLkjjvtTk6 UUIC6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmpxYcYmTg4pRoYNz44krq79mB/2KubsXOOL3ARLulJi387tV10 1dvErRny2sYeH78bi1au61vGW5br2Rs3Xe1m6HnX2RV1Zw9838K79eONLd5yz1dXsa+c9qWH X/XwwrSShYsEDp9Ycz+TuyhOZGZaFv+BLvk0pcJmnot1DrZq65vjrhv6/LwxvT8pzFX98L0E JZbijERDLeai4kQAupQeJSACAAA= X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpgluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRbCieravhbRJlcPmohsWxfS9ZHBg95i2e zhTAGMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CV0XBkI2PBRZaK0zMOsjUwNrJ0MXJySAiYSDR++sTWxcjFISRw iFGitWEGWIJXQFDix+R7QDYHB7OAvMTB87IgYWYBLYnvj1pZIOpbmCT2T7zPCJIQFpCQON6/ kBXEZhNQk/g9qQ/MZhFQlVj59B1UjZ3Ep5Yr7BDzbSSOXZ/HDGKLANVPeH2EFeIgJYnp32+z TWDknYXkjFkIZ8xCcsYCRuZVjAJFqTmJlRZ6iQUFOal6yfm5mxjB4VKYtoOxabnVIUYBDkYl Hl6BW8ZRQqyJZcWVuUB/cjArifAW85tECfGmJFZWpRblxxeV5qQWH2KU5mBREueduV8vSkgg PbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cB4KjpTlMv66N4nrRO8Lhj+W+Qdlb/s0F4Vmxen2O7kzjHOMq8L 4Ko1jXeL3vIhq/1vo9h6qfjNCzcvYVK+Z97qb8w3qdd2q+hCwbJiq3ilaUtmyd3MlY7dInp2 wqejvWLXS4ukKt5JpasVuLgIz94yXfPp+VzFzwtzHN7NUbxy4MH3hmiuLR5KLMUZiYZazEXF iQDO8z6LEwIAAA== Subject: [IPP] IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes Registration Approved X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" All, The IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes registration document has been approved by the IPP workgroup. The published registration document can be found at the following URLs: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/registrations/reg-ippgupa-20171214.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/registrations/reg-ippgupa-20171214.odt The PWG IPP registry has already been updated with the published document, and the IANA IPP registry will be updated in the near future to include it. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri Dec 15 14:22:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2547126D45 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:22:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.545 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.545 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DF4PR84MB0284; H:DF4PR84MB0284.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: hp.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 0d47e1e8-5b0d-43f9-fe97-08d54636fcfc X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 18 Dec 2017 16:47:12.8316 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DF4PR84MB0284 Subject: [IPP] Call for recommendations for Linux OpenPrinting GSoC 2018 Objectives X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4153167522970530502==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4153167522970530502== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E648F380-A6B9-4A58-8858-A04D35F65130"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_E648F380-A6B9-4A58-8858-A04D35F65130 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, Part of the PWG's partnership with Linux OpenPrinting includes the PWG = providing them with a set of possible project ideas they might adopt in = part or in whole for implementation during their Google Summer of Code = (GSoC) projects. Here are some ideas from Linux OpenPrinting and from = the PWG for their 2018 GSoC projects.=20 =E2=80=A2 Enhancements for ipptool: Write additional ipptool scripts = for coverage of operations and attributes that are required by IPP = Everywhere, but not yet tested in IPP Everywhere Self-Certification = process - also new scripts for other IPP specs (e.g., IPP Shared = Infrastructure) for developers (from Ira). =E2=80=A2 Support for IPP System Services (replacement of printer's = proprietary web admin interface by GUI in printer setup tool). Will need = Mike Sweet to complete his prototype implementation in ippserver. =E2=80=A2 PWG Raster "lint" program (Issue #29 in ippsample project) =E2=80=A2 Enhance "ippserver" to support the full range of IPP data = types (especially complex data types like (1setOf (textWithLanguage)) = and handling the strings being wrapped in single / double quotes, etc. =E2=80=A2 IPP Scan (or virtual MF device) server: Computer has scanner = (and printer) connected, scans the normal way via SANE. For accepting = remote scan jobs computer emulates a driverless IPP scanner. =E2=80=A2 SANE module for IPP Scan Servce driverless scanning (mainly = for multifunction printers). Any comments on these or recommendations for other projects relating to = IPP or PWG tools or tests would be appreciated! We will make our = recommendations to Linux OpenPrinting on January 3, 2018. Feel free to = reply to this message on the reflector or reach out privately to me if = you prefer. Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_E648F380-A6B9-4A58-8858-A04D35F65130 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMbzCCBiww ggUUoAMCAQICEERH5SPSzVXgy10mZYbUYM8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgaYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVT MQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZIUCBJbmMxHzAdBgNVBAsTFlN5bWFudGVjIFRydXN0IE5ldHdvcmsxNTAzBgNV BAsTLENsYXNzIDIgTWFuYWdlZCBQS0kgSW5kaXZpZHVhbCBTdWJzY3JpYmVyIENBMS4wLAYDVQQD EyVDb2xsYWJvcmF0aW9uIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTE2MTEwNzAwMDAwMFoX DTE4MTEwNzIzNTk1OVowgYcxDzANBgNVBAoUBkhQIEluYzEmMCQGA1UECxQdRW1wbG95bWVudCBT dGF0dXMgLSBFbXBsb3llZXMxDzANBgNVBAsUBlMvTUlNRTEWMBQGA1UEAwwNU21pdGggS2VubmVk 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