From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Fri Nov 3 13:32:07 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA01021 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06709 for ipsec-policy-bks; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mindray-inter.mindray.com.cn (szptt103-148.szptt.net.cn [202.103.148.18] (may be forged)) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06700 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:59:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:59:14 -0800 (PST) From: hv@of-hachetal.de Message-Id: <200011031659.IAA06700@ns.secondary.com> Received: from 1cust239.tnt2.mia5.da.uu.net by mindray-inter.mindray.com.cn with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id WD22C702; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 01:00:31 +0800 To: hv@of-hachetal.de Subject: At last, Herbal V, the all natural alternative to V----A! Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Herbal V: An Incredible All-Natural Healthy Alternative Herbal V is the All Natural Approach to Male Virility, Vitality and Pleasure. Available N o w ! Welcome to the New Sexual Revolution. It's the all natural male potency and pleasure pill that men everywhere are buzzing about. Herbal V is safe, natural and specifically formulated to help support male sexual function and pleasure. You just take two easy-to-swallow tablets one hour before sex. And there's more great news - you can get Herbal V for less than $1 a pill. Amazing word of mouth praise on Herbal V has been spreading like wildfire-already over 1,500,000 men have chosen Herbal V. Since it is 100% natural you will never have to worry about safety. Try doctor-recommended Herbal V today and have the greatest night of your life! Herbal V... Bringing Back the Magic! 1,585,000 men can't be wrong. To date over 1 million men have tried the super supplement Herbal V. Here is why: No Doctor Visit Required Available Over the Counter Not a Drug 100% Natural Safe, No Worries Highest Quality Pharmaceutical-Grade Pure Nutriceuticals Guaranteed Potency & Purity Be a Real Man Again! Questions and Answers What is Herbal V? Herbal V is a proprietary blend that was specifically developed as a safe alternative for men who prefer an all-natural approach to address impotence and boost sexual performance. This amazing formula first became popular with Hollywood insiders and the wealthy elite. They were maximizing their sex lives, long before it was available to the general public. How does Herbal V work? Developed by a team whose goal was to create the perfect all-natural aphrodisiac. Herbal V is the result of that remarkable effort. The Herbal V formula contains a precise blend of cutting edge pro-sexual nutrients from around the world that provide nutritional support, making it possible for a man to have a pleasurable sexual experience. What can Herbal V do for me? Herbal V helps support male sexual function and pleasure in a safe and natural manner. Simply put, it can make your sex life incredible. Is Herbal V Safe? One of the great things about Herbal V is that it is not a drug. It is an incredible herbal dietary supplement that provides nutritional support for male sexual function and pleasure. One of the most comforting features of Herbal V is that you never have to worry about safety. Herbal V: Safe - Natural - Exciting Many have speculated that because Herbal V is so popular with men, it must contain prescription drugs or chemical components. Herbal V does not contain any elements or traces of any prescription drug. Herbal V is made using the world's most technologically advanced state-of-the-art cold processing equipment to ensure maximum purity. Herbal V has been independently analyzed by the nation's premier testing facility to ensure purity, quality and to end the rumors that, because it is so popular, it must somehow be chemical. It is not. Herbal V is natural - just as it says on the label. Herbal V is simply fantastic! Herbal V: Ingredients Yohimbe, saw palmetto, avena sativa, androstenedione, guarana, taurine, siberian ginseng, tribulus terrestris. Tribulus Terrestis is certified to enhanced testosterone levels by increasing Luteinzing hormone (LH) levels. Androstenedione which is a precursor to testosterone unlocks bound testosterone and makes it biologically active again quickly. This means a dramatic surge in desire. Avena Sativa Stimulates the neurotransmitter pleasure centers to maximum capacity. This greatly intensifies pleasure. Just listen to what Herbal V has done for the sex lives of people like you! “On a scale of 1 to 10, it's a 15. Electrifying. It's like a wonder pill!” — Justin Q B., New Haven, Texas “I haven't had sexual relations in 11 years. Then with Herbal V it was... wow! It works again!” — Sid R., Lakeland, Florida “I had sex four times in one night. It made me feel like a 19-year-old again.” — Chip S, Beech Mountain, North Carolina “Herbal V has turned my husband into a Sexual Superman! I like the fact that it's all natural and has no side effects. It's bringing back the good old days.” — Jennifer B, Beverly Hills, California The above testimonials are from product literature, and we have not independently verified them. However, the following testimonial is from a "senior" gentleman who has purchased his second bottle of Herbal V. When we heard his words with our own ears, we asked his permission to print them here. “Man! I'm wild as I can be! I feel like I'm 25 years old again! I'm not believing this!” — Mr. Murphy, age 64, Lampart, IL. Risk Free: Double Your Money Back Guarantee If Herbal V does not give the desired results as stated above, simply return the unused portion for a double-your money back refund. No questions asked ! Order Now: Safe, Fast, Secure, Private Herbal V with its DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE is available only through this special promotional offer. Herbal V arrives in plain packaging for your privacy. Any and all information is kept strictly confidential. Payment Methods You may FAX or Postal Mail Checks, MasterCard, Visa, & American Express.payments. Money Orders are accepted only by Postal Mail. Each bottle of Herbal V contains 30 tablets, approximately a 1 month supply. Step 1: Place a check by your desired quanity. ______ 1 Bottle of Herbal V $28 ______ 2 Bottles of Herbal V $48 ______ 3 Bottles of Herbal V $59 Please add $6 shipping and handling for any size order. [ Total cost including shipping & handling, 1 bottle=$34, 2 bottles=$54, 3 bottles=$65 ] International Orders Please add $16 shipping and handling for any size order. [ Total cost including shipping & handling, 1 bottle=$40, 2 bottles=$60, 3 bottles=$75 ] We cannot accept foreign checks. International money orders or credit cards only. Step 2: Place a check by your desired payment method and complete fields if necessary. _____Check or CHECK-BY-FAX [details below] _____Money Order _____American Express Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ _____Visa Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ _____MasterCard Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ Please make your check or money order payable to "Lion Sciences National". Step 3: Please complete and print the following fields clearly. Name ___________________________________________________ Address _________________________________________________ City ____________________________________________________ State ___________________________________________________ Zip _____________________________________________________ E-mail __________________________________________________ Signature _________________________________________________ [ required for check and credit card orders] Toll Free FAX Order Line: 1-800-940-6590 If faxing in your order, please state whether you require a fax, email, or no confirmation at all. Allow up to one day for confirmation, if requested. FAX orders are processed immediately. Or, print & mail to: LSN 3502 N. Powerline Rd. #525 Pompano Beach, FL 33069 ______________________________________________________ *CHECK BY FAX ORDERS: Complete the check as normal. Tape the check in the area below. Below the check, clearly write the check number, all numbers at the bottom of the check, & your name. Tape the check below and fax the check to the toll free FAX number above. Void the check. Our merchant will electronically debit your account for the amount of the check; your reference number for this transaction will be your check number. Nothing could be safer & easier ! TAPE CHECK BELOW _____________________________________________________________ This is a one time mailing: Removal is automatic and no further contact is necessary. Please Note: Herbal V is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. As individuals differ, so will results. Herbal V helps provide herbal and nutritional support for male sexual performance. The FDA has not evaluated these statements. For details about our double your money back guarantee, please write to the above address, attention consumer affairs department; enclose a self addressed stamped envelope for this and any requested contact information. Thank You. From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Fri Nov 17 07:40:01 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA06555 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04269 for ipsec-policy-bks; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04263 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA10908; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 06:38:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011171138.GAA10908@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 06:38:12 -0500 Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Policy Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Roadmap for IPsec Policy Management Author(s) : L. Sanchez, H. Orman Filename : draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt Pages : Date : 16-Nov-00 This document describes the approach that the IPSP WG will follow to resolve the challenges that IPsec compliant devices phase with respect to modeling, specifying, translating, provisioning, exchanging, negotiating, checking and enforcing IPsec policies. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001116142510.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ipsp-roadmap-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001116142510.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Tue Nov 28 07:25:32 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA08076 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13960 for ipsec-policy-bks; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13955 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA02177; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:56:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011281056.FAA02177@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 05:56:45 -0500 Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Policy Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPSec Policy Information Base Author(s) : M. Li, D. Arneson, A. Doria, J. Jason, C. Wang Filename : draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt Pages : 58 Date : 27-Nov-00 This document specifies a set of policy rule classes (PRC) for configuring IPSec policy at IPsec-enabled devices. Instances of these classes reside in a virtual information store called IPSec Policy Information Base (PIB). COPS protocol [COPS] with the extensions for provisioning [COPS-PR] may be used to transmit this IPSec policy information to IPSec-enabled devices (e.g., gateways). The PRCs defined in this IPSec PIB are intended for use by the COPS- PR IPSec client type. They complement the PRCs defined in the Framework PIB [FR-PIB]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001127132441.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ipsp-ipsecpib-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001127132441.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Wed Nov 29 15:02:41 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA13478 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01387 for ipsec-policy-bks; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from prv-mail20.provo.novell.com (prv-mail20.provo.novell.com [137.65.81.122]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01383 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from INET-PRV-Message_Server by prv-mail20.provo.novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:32:12 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:32:05 -0700 From: "Hilarie Orman" To: Subject: Slightly higher level policy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ns.secondary.com id KAA01384 Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to suggest a language-based approach to the problem of specifying policy for collections of elements. This is fairly generic, and I'm curious to know if it duplicates other proposed methods. The idea is that when filling in the attributes of a structure, you can specify that some items are named but not yet bound. For example, a collection of elements defined with identical attributes but differing in their specific IP address would use one data structure, but fill in the address as "$this_ip_address", which would make it a free variable of the element definition. Each specific element would be defined with a reference to the data structure and a specific IP address: security_gateway(this_ip_address = 192.60.51.3) There are well-known formal constructs for the binding rules and evaluation of such languages. They seem like a simple extension of policy definitions. Could they be applied usefully to the IPSec Policy arena? Hilarie From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Wed Nov 29 23:31:52 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA06809 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25459 for ipsec-policy-bks; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.ift.com.cn ([202.96.164.84]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25449 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:23:53 -0800 (PST) From: V@tzw.de Received: from h809 [63.30.194.82] by www.ift.com.cn (SMTPD32-5.01 EVAL) id A91F211010E; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:23:11 PST To: V@tzw.de Subject: Lady V: The Pleasure Pill for Women! Message-Id: <200011301124.SM00179@h809> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:27:47 PST Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: LADY V: The Pleasure Pill for Women! Men Have Their Viagra®! Finally, A Pill for Women! It's Here! The Revolutionary Woman's Sexual Sensation is Now Available. Researchers are calling Lady V the greatest breakthrough for women since the Birth Control Pill. And you don't even need a prescription to get it! Welcome to the New Sexual Revolution! It's no secret that men have been having the time of their lives since the wonder pill Viagra® was made available. But, women were left out in the cold with no pill... nothing! Well now thanks to an all-star team of medical researchers who have been working around the clock, those days are finally over. The perfect female "pleasure pill" has been created and you don't even need a prescription. You can now get it from Lion Sciences! Lady V is the world's first pleasure pill scientifically designed for women. Lady V is an all-natural proprietary herbal blend of prosexual nutrients from around the world synergistically blended to naturally stimulate neurotransmitter endorphin signals. This magical combination increases targeted blood flow, unleashes natural stimulator for maximum stimulation, triggering pleasure responses quickly. Lady V is safe, natural and doctor-recommended. Since its introduction Lady V has been taking the world by storm! >From Malibu to Miami women are enjoying the most intense pleasure of their lives! • 100% Natural • Safe • The Highest Quality Pharmaceutical Pure Nutraceuticals • Guaranteed Potency • Certified Purity Lady V is Sweeping the Nation! Women are going crazy over Lady V. Suddenly couples are falling in love all over again. The passion and pleasure that women are reporting is off the charts! Lady V has an incredible 88% success rate. Best of all, while Viagra costs $10 a pill, Lady V costs less than $1 a pill! It's not just a man's world anymore! Just look at what a few women have to say: "I thought my love life was good before, but now it is out of this world! Lady V is remarkable." — Mary J., Interior Designer "I haven't smiled like this in a long time. My husband and I feel like a couple of 19 year olds again!" — Debra T, Assistant Buyer "Imagine what it would feel like to have incredible passion and pleasure anytime you want." — Jennifer C., Film Editor "Suddenly my husband and I are spending more time in the bedroom instead of the TV room." — Angie R., Realtor Ingredients: Vitamin D, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12, Avena Sativa, Kava Kava, Guarana, White Willow Extract, Mura Puama, St. John's Wort, Siberian Ginseng, Cordyceps, Damiana, and L-Taurine. Each bottle of Lady V contains 30 tablets. Take three capsules one hour before romantic activity as a dietary supplement. Risk Free: Double Your Money Back Guarantee If Lady V does not give the desired results as stated above, simply return the unused portion for a double-your money back refund. No questions asked! Order Now: Safe, Fast, Secure, Private Lady V with its DOUBLE YOUR MONEY BACK GUARANTEE is available only through this special promotional offer. Herbal V arrives in plain packaging for your privacy. Any and all information is kept strictly confidential. Payment Methods You may FAX or Postal Mail Checks, MasterCard, Visa, & American Express.payments. Money Orders are accepted only by Postal Mail. Each bottle of Lady V contains 30 tablets. Step 1: Place a check by your desired quanity. ______ 1 Bottle of Lady V $24 ______ 2 Bottles of Lady V $44 ______ 3 Bottles of Lady V $59 Please add $6 shipping and handling for any size order. [ Total cost including shipping & handling, 1 bottle=$30, 2 bottles=$50, 3 bottles=$65 ] International Orders Please add $18 shipping and handling for any size order. [ Total cost including shipping & handling, 1 bottle=$42, 2 bottles=$62, 3 bottles=$77 ] We cannot accept foreign checks. International money orders or credit cards only. Step 2: Place a check by your desired payment method and complete fields if necessary. _____Check or CHECK-BY-FAX [details below] _____Money Order _____American Express Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ _____Visa Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ _____MasterCard Account Number__________________ Exp____/____ Please make your check or money order payable to "Lion Sciences National". Step 3: Please complete and print the following fields clearly. Name ___________________________________________________ Address _________________________________________________ City ____________________________________________________ State ___________________________________________________ Zip _____________________________________________________ E-mail __________________________________________________ Signature _________________________________________________ [ required for check and credit card orders] Toll Free FAX Order Line: 1-800-940-6590 If faxing in your order, please state whether you require a fax, email, or no confirmation at all. Allow up to one day for confirmation, if requested. FAX orders are processed immediately. Or, print & mail to: LSN 273 S. State Rd. 7, #193 Margate, FL 33068-5727 ______________________________________________________ *CHECK BY FAX ORDERS: Complete the check as normal. Tape the check in the area below. Below the check, clearly write the check number, all numbers at the bottom of the check, & your name. Tape the check below and fax the check to the toll free FAX number above. Void the check. Our merchant will electronically debit your account for the amount of the check; your reference number for this transaction will be your check number. Nothing could be safer & easier ! TAPE CHECK BELOW _____________________________________________________________ This is a one time mailing: Removal is automatic and no further contact is necessary. Please Note: Lady V is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. As individuals differ, so will results. Lady V helps provide herbal and nutritional support for female sexual performance. The FDA has not evaluated these statements. For details about our double your money back guarantee, please write to the above address, attention consumer affairs department; enclose a self addressed stamped envelope for this and any requested contact information. Thank You. From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Thu Nov 30 19:14:23 2000 Received: from ns.secondary.com (ns.secondary.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA16392 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23237 for ipsec-policy-bks; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com (mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com [63.78.179.217]) by ns.secondary.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23233 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: Man.M.Li@nokia.com Received: from davir04nok.americas.nokia.com (davir04nok.americas.nokia.com [172.18.242.87]) by mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id eAUN18621730 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:01:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from daebh02nok.americas.nokia.com (unverified) by davir04nok.americas.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:00:35 -0600 Received: by daebh02nok with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) id ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:00:35 -0600 Message-ID: To: HORMAN@novell.com, ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: RE: Slightly higher level policy Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:52:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Do you mean for example, the same set of IPsec association attributes may be used to set up multiple IPsec tunnels? In this case, the endpoints of the tunnels and the filters used by each tunnel are different but the protection suits are the same for all the tunnels. If this is the correct interpretation of your approach, it may be used by a policy server internally to simplify policy definition. Specifically, attributes of a structure are defined first. User then binds addresses and filters to the structure. The policy server translates the bindings into device level policy and deploy it over devices. With the binding, the user does not need to define the same structure again and again for IPsec associations between different points. Man Li Nokia 5 Wayside Road, Burlington, MA 01803 man.m.li@nokia.com phone 1-781-993-3923 GSM 1-781-492-2850 -----Original Message----- From: EXT Hilarie Orman [mailto:HORMAN@novell.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 1:32 PM To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: Slightly higher level policy I would like to suggest a language-based approach to the problem of specifying policy for collections of elements. This is fairly generic, and I'm curious to know if it duplicates other proposed methods. The idea is that when filling in the attributes of a structure, you can specify that some items are named but not yet bound. For example, a collection of elements defined with identical attributes but differing in their specific IP address would use one data structure, but fill in the address as "$this_ip_address", which would make it a free variable of the element definition. Each specific element would be defined with a reference to the data structure and a specific IP address: security_gateway(this_ip_address = 192.60.51.3) There are well-known formal constructs for the binding rules and evaluation of such languages. They seem like a simple extension of policy definitions. Could they be applied usefully to the IPSec Policy arena? Hilarie