From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Fri Nov 1 05:44:46 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA03026 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gA1AJo815116 for ipsec-policy-bks; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zanzibar.karaba.org (karaba.org [218.219.152.88] (may be forged)) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gA1AJmW15112 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [3ffe:501:1057:710::1] (helo=grublo.karaba.org.karaba.org) by zanzibar.karaba.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187Yth-00039b-00 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:19:25 +0900 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:19:25 +0900 Message-ID: <87r8e5egnm.wl@karaba.org> From: Mitsuru KANDA / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BFRBsoQiAbJEI9PBsoQg==?= To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: Re: Call for agenda requests In-Reply-To: <3DB9B84A.1030904@xapiens.com> References: <200210151952.g9FJqkX30160@localhost.localdomain> <3DB9B84A.1030904@xapiens.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.8.1 (Something) Emacs/21.2 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Hello Luis, At Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:31:54 -0400, Luis A. Sanchez wrote: > > > Mitsuru, > > It is a WG item. However, as usual, we have more people interested in > the item than willing to work on it. Are you volunteering? > > -luis Yes, sure. Anyway, has Design team been organized yet? Regards, -mk > > Mitsuru KANDA / ?? ? wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I'm newbie of ipsp list. > > > > let me ask a question. > > > > Does anyone tell me PF_POLICY status? > > and has a plan to discuss it in Atlanta? > > > > I found PF_POLICY discussion articles in ipsp ml archive. > > But it seems to stopped halfway and too old. > > > > Many IPsec implementations expand PF_KEY due to set IPsec SA, > > but it is not compatible with each other. > > > > I think PF_POLICY is important to solve this. > > > > > > Regards, > > -mk > > ---------------------------------------- > > Mitsuru KANDA (mk@karaba.org) > > Toshiba Reseach & Development Center > > Communication Platform Laboratory (mk@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp) > > USAGI Project (mk@linux-ipv6.org) > > > > > > > > > From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Mon Nov 4 10:14:55 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17317 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gA4EgNB02797 for ipsec-policy-bks; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hugo.int-evry.fr (hugo.int-evry.fr [157.159.100.81]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gA4EgLW02793 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from charlie.necropole.int-evry.fr (charlie [157.159.100.80]) by hugo.int-evry.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) with ESMTP id PAA07226 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:42:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from kurgan by charlie.necropole.int-evry.fr with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 188iQR-0003UX-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:41:59 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:41:59 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Puig To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: Gateway discovery Message-ID: <20021104144159.GD11526@charlie.int-evry.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Hi, Are there works currently available on security gateway discovery ? Or is another group working on a more general gateway discovery protocol providing support for security gateways ? Thanks -- Jean-Jacques Puig From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Mon Nov 4 10:37:30 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA18334 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gA4ExLd03388 for ipsec-policy-bks; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from cotton.ir.bbn.com (COTTON.IR.BBN.com [192.1.100.212]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA4ExKW03383 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 90938 invoked by uid 20813); 4 Nov 2002 14:59:11 -0000 Date: 4 Nov 2002 14:59:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20021104145911.90937.qmail@cotton.ir.bbn.com> From: Matt Condell To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Cc: Jean-Jacques Puig Subject: Re: Gateway discovery Reply-to: mcondell@bbn.com Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: > Are there works currently available on security gateway > discovery ? Or is another group working on a more general > gateway discovery protocol providing support for security > gateways ? I do not think there is a current IPSP draft on gateway discovery, however the, now expired, IPSP draft "Security Policy Protocol" proposes a solution for gateway discovery as part of the protocol. You can find a copy at: http://www.ir.bbn.com/~mcondell/papers/draft-ietf-ipsp-spp.txt Matt Condell BBN Technologies From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Thu Nov 7 15:52:50 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11859 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gA7KMNZ22638 for ipsec-policy-bks; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gA7KFVv22129; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA08965 for <1timer>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:11:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200211072011.PAA08965@ietf.org> From: The IESG To: All IETF Working Groups: ; Subject: Note Well Statement x-msg: NoteWell Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:11:40 -0500 Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: From time to time, especially just before a meeting, this statement is to be sent to each and every IETF working group mailing list. =========================================================================== NOTE WELL All statements related to the activities of the IETF and addressed to the IETF are subject to all provisions of Section 10 of RFC 2026, which grants to the IETF and its participants certain licenses and rights in such statements. 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From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Mon Nov 18 10:41:02 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA24045 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gAIFER101130 for ipsec-policy-bks; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hs3.order-vault.net (hs3.order-vault.net [216.71.40.131]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gAIFEOg01124 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from xapiens.com ([208.12.163.2]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by hs3.order-vault.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAIFEMn07247 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:14:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD903CD.1070008@xapiens.com> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:14:21 -0400 From: "Luis A. Sanchez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: 55th IPSP wg Agenda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agenda Bashing L. Sanchez 3 mins IPSP WG status H. Orman 10 mins ADs Document Feedback H. Orman 15-20 mins IPsec Policy Configuration Model E. Vyncke 20 mins IPSec Policy Information Base M. Li 20 mins IPsec Policy Configuration MIB R. Story 30 mins PF_POLICY L. Sanchez 20 mins Wrap-up L. Sanchez 5 mins From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Mon Nov 18 17:52:30 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA06554 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gAIMUs626368 for ipsec-policy-bks; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (cyphermail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca [192.139.46.78]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gAIMUlg26352 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (marajade.dasblinkenled.org [204.42.73.244] (may be forged)) by noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAIMUWd18369 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:30:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (marajade [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id gAILZ2mv005125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:35:04 -0500 Received: from marajade.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (mcr@localhost) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id gAILZ2R8005121 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:35:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200211182135.gAILZ2R8005121@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> To: ipsec-policy@vpnc.org Subject: summary of discovery protocols Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:35:01 -0500 From: Michael Richardson Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- 1) Security Policy Protocol (SPP) http://www.ir.bbn.com/projects/pbsm/sps-index.html 2) TED (Tunnel Endpoint Discovery) draft-fluhrer-ted-01.txt (expired) see http://www.sandelman.ca/SSW/ietf/ipsp/ for -00.txt. 3) OE (Opportunistic Encryption) draft-richardson-ipsec-opportunistic-10.txt http://www.sandelman.ca/SSW/freeswan/ {Note that www.sandelman.ca is only partially online at this time. You can access it from the IETF network at this time. Full access will be restored by Nov. 27th.} ] At IETF55 in Atlanta, GA | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] printk("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy");[ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPdldAoqHRg3pndX9AQFsOQP+O5DQZkdBw83ojK6aXWnb2/fnkZyRumJ8 RBDA2gclCpekPjE8RzRNtnquHG6YxY6X+hyNEXB+ltdPVyLTqR+bwYXsLZBz8kRR eKScwsUkKYGtoua7JZsK8feg8elPgaLPqrOEfynqGPItWlz7luPQD9Ut462lro6p plk3Dnd7m3A= =g5Cf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Wed Nov 20 01:17:26 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18646 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 01:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gAK5lsP13580 for ipsec-policy-bks; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux.royaleng.com (linux.royaleng.com [216.83.131.67]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gAK5lqg13576 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([192.168.6.22]) by linux.royaleng.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAK5qrUI023673 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:52:57 -0700 Received: (from ho@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAK5isi02527; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:54 -0700 Message-Id: <200211200544.gAK5isi02527@localhost.localdomain> From: "The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman" To: ipsec-policy@imc.org Subject: Draft Minutes, for review Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: These are the draft minutes from the recent IPSP meeting; please send changes to the chairs (Hilarie Orman, ho@alum.mit.edu; Luis Sanchez, xapiens.com). The minutes will be posted for the proceedings next week. ------------------- Minutes of IPsec Policy, IPSP, 55th IETF, Monday, November 18, 3:30 pm EST The meeting opened with agenday bashing and a status of the WG documents. The policy configuration documents are within episilon of being ready to present to the IESG for a request for promotion to Proposed Standard. Other Working Group items need discussion and decisions about direction. Security Area Director, Steve Bellovin verified that he alone has looked at the submitted documents and he provided feedback to the document authors. The IESG as a whole has not yet seen them. The AD comments are summarized in the Chairs' presentation. One attendee asked if AES must be added to the supported algorithms list, and the answer was yes. Another was whether or not the lifetime counters should be specified at 64-bits in the IPsec architecture document. The answer is no, but we should make sure that the IPsec group is aware of the need to match the lifetime counter size to the linespeed. For configuration, we have chosen 64-bits because it is large enough for all expected needs. Eric Vyncke presented the IPsec Configuration Policy Model status. Steve Bellovin commented that he expects the WG's in the security area to have expertise for writing good security considerations sections. Luis Sanchez replied that the applicable contents of the first version of the IPSP Architecture document will be added to the security considerations section of the IPCM draft. The ICPM revisions based on AD feedback will be incorporated and the document will be resubmitted very soon. The WG Chairs will notify the AD when the new documents are available, and this will alert him to begin tracking the document through the IESG document tracker. Robert Story presented a summary of the MIB document. It is nearly done, and the AD comments on the other documents will be addressed in this document as well. The next version will be available very soon. An informal poll showed that a handful of attendees are planning to use PIBs or MIBs in projects in the very near future. He gave the following information about the MIB and the implementation status: - MIB is now handled by Robert Story from Freesnmp together with Wes Hardaker and Russ Mundy from TISlabs, they also added normative/informative references. - reference implementation on http://net-policy.sourceforge.net for Linux and PlutoPlus + Apache + perl for GUI - MIB extended the ICPM with generic offset in the iPHeaderFilter Bill Sommerfield presented the PF_POLICY concept, which is one part of a three-part API for IPSec: IPSec management, PF_POLICY, PF_KEY. He was asked several questions about how PF_KEY might change and what the status of documentation and implementation is. He said that some minor parts of the implementation were done and that he needed time to write up the documentation. He got a volunteer to assist in writing a requirements document. We can expect a document on PF_POLICY by second quarter 2003. Michael Richardson re-presented slides about policy discovery. We need further discussion on the mailing list about how this might be used for enterprise and ISP scenarios. Luis Sanchez reviewed the WG charter. He pointed out accomplished WG items (requirements, Confifuration Model, PIB and MIB) already and noted that we need to update our milestone dates. Meeting ended. From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Wed Nov 20 18:32:44 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA04904 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gAKN9Aj17613 for ipsec-policy-bks; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (cyphermail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca [192.139.46.78]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gAKN93g17602 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (marajade.dasblinkenled.org [204.42.73.244]) by noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAKN8gh27946 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (marajade [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id gAKMfFO3003024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:41:16 -0500 Received: from marajade.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (mcr@localhost) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id gAKMDoOQ002324 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:14:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200211202214.gAKMDoOQ002324@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> To: ipsec-policy@imc.org Subject: Re: Draft Minutes, for review In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:44:54 MST." <200211200544.gAK5isi02527@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:13:49 -0500 From: Michael Richardson Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "The" == The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman writes: The> Michael Richardson re-presented slides about policy discovery. We The> need further discussion on the mailing list about how this might be The> used for enterprise and ISP scenarios. I claim that requirements-02.txt is complete and should advance. ] At IETF55 in Atlanta, GA | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] printk("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy");[ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPdwJHIqHRg3pndX9AQGPygQAtij/8y0XTr570nyEaZQxzpoprgwepHEh qC8HlY0e7ZFEwolPE6zrixfTBdSD4ZdTyBMkd3ZGMciMlHo42yUhibYXiDGehnIR l0ICZZ1VIfWgab+LPgJh7yIxvVV23NchKAqCMwPiLcGVcqGAQjBrvneOOOp7k6QG gDjeX/YKxZw= =cYWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Thu Nov 21 10:17:36 2002 Received: from above.proper.com (mail.proper.com [208.184.76.45]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06288 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) id gALEjgY05481 for ipsec-policy-bks; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay3.clb.oleane.net (relay3.clb.oleane.net [213.56.31.23]) by above.proper.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gALEjdg05469 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from oleane (upper-side.rain.fr [194.250.212.114]) by relay3.clb.oleane.net with SMTP id gALEjHV6022822 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:45:29 +0100 Message-ID: <016d01c2916d$85dcd460$0601a8c0@oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Subject: IPsec Global Summit & Deploying IPv6 Conference Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:51:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015E_01C29175.E02334C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-ipsec-policy@mail.vpnc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015E_01C29175.E02334C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Deploying IPv6 Networks" second edition and "IPsec Global Summit" = fourth edition will be held at the same time in Paris La Defense from 3 = to 6 December.=20 The concurrence of these two events will result in a panel of = specialists from these two closely knit areas of interest without = precedent.=20 Get all details at: http://www.upperside.fr/ipsec02/ipv6etipsec.htm ------=_NextPart_000_015E_01C29175.E02334C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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