From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 4 11:36:27 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA01989 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 8E84A52C4; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:29:46 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 7976B52D5; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:29:45 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <389AFEC3.A8CBB6F@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 11:30:59 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "iptel, list" Subject: IETF Scheduling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, The iptel working group has been tentatively scheduled for Monday, March 27, 1930 - 2200 at IETF 47 in Adelaide. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. 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Thank you, ListCheck From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Feb 9 17:07:13 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA25349 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id B340852F5; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:52:31 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id C665E52F0; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:52:22 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 13:34:39 -0800 From: Kenny Hom Reply-To: khom@vovida.com Organization: Vovida Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Cc: schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu, lennox@cs.columbia.edu Subject: CPL's timeouts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Regarding the Call Processing Language (CPL) draft, are there default timeout values for the elements that accept timeout as an argument if the user does not specify a value? -- Kenny Hom Senior Software Engineer Vovida Networks, 2150 Trade Zone Blvd. 105, San Jose, CA 95131 [W] (408) 941-1790 / [F] (408) 941-1791 --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Thu Feb 10 17:03:02 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA11718 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 72B8052DE; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:57:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id E2FD052E0; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:57:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A334AF.3D4649E7@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:59:11 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "iptel, list" Subject: CPL Framework document approved Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I've just heard that the CPL framework document was just approved by IESG as an Informational RFC. -Jonathan R. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 200 Executive Drive Chief Scientist Suite 120 dynamicsoft West Orange, NJ 07052 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 11 01:12:04 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA19665 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id D1B1C52B6; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:07:30 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 39A9A52AB; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:07:30 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A3A7AF.ABBEBFE7@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:09:51 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: khom@vovida.com Cc: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, schulzrinne@cs.columbia.edu, lennox@cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: CPL's timeouts References: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit None defined right now as I recall. I'm not sure there needs to be a standard default. It might be OK for the proxy to set the default administratively. -Jonathan R. Kenny Hom wrote: > > Regarding the Call Processing Language (CPL) draft, are there default > timeout values for the elements that accept timeout as an argument if > the user does not specify a value? > > -- > Kenny Hom > Senior Software Engineer > Vovida Networks, 2150 Trade Zone Blvd. 105, San Jose, CA 95131 > [W] (408) 941-1790 / [F] (408) 941-1791 > > --------- > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 200 Executive Drive Chief Scientist Suite 120 dynamicsoft West Orange, NJ 07052 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 11 07:58:37 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA06672 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 43A2252AB; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:53:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id A6CF452C4; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:53:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A405E3.6180A035@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:51:47 -0500 From: Henning Schulzrinne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Rosenberg Cc: khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, lennox@ober.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: CPL's timeouts References: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> <38A3A7AF.ABBEBFE7@dynamicsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since CPL scripts can explicitly provide timeouts, server-based defaults don't offer significant policy control to the server. However, they do open up weird interoperability issues ("my script worked fine yesterday, you upgraded the server and suddenly all my calls go to voice mail"). Given that we specify default for parameters in SIP, I would argue that defaults in the spec aid interoperability and portability of scripts. Too many tunable server parameters aren't in anybody's interest. Having default parameters also allows "script testers" to reason about overall script behavior, e.g., with several proxy attempts, how long will it take overall until the call gets sent to voicemail. Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > > None defined right now as I recall. I'm not sure there needs to be a > standard default. It might be OK for the proxy to set the default > administratively. > > -Jonathan R. > > Kenny Hom wrote: > > > > Regarding the Call Processing Language (CPL) draft, are there default > > timeout values for the elements that accept timeout as an argument if > > the user does not specify a value? > > > > -- > > Kenny Hom > > Senior Software Engineer > > Vovida Networks, 2150 Trade Zone Blvd. 105, San Jose, CA 95131 > > [W] (408) 941-1790 / [F] (408) 941-1791 > > > > --------- > > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 11 11:45:11 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA13889 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 1B83352DD; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:37:40 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 8423852D4; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:37:39 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A43B11.A45B39C7@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:38:41 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henning Schulzrinne Cc: khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, lennox@ober.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: CPL's timeouts References: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> <38A3A7AF.ABBEBFE7@dynamicsoft.com> <38A405E3.6180A035@cs.columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK; I'll buy this argument. Which tags need timeouts? Isn't it only proxy? I think perhaps a reasonable default is 30 seconds? -Jonathan R. Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > > Since CPL scripts can explicitly provide timeouts, server-based defaults > don't offer significant policy control to the server. However, they do > open up weird interoperability issues ("my script worked fine yesterday, > you upgraded the server and suddenly all my calls go to voice mail"). > Given that we specify default for parameters in SIP, I would argue that > defaults in the spec aid interoperability and portability of scripts. > Too many tunable server parameters aren't in anybody's interest. Having > default parameters also allows "script testers" to reason about overall > script behavior, e.g., with several proxy attempts, how long will it > take overall until the call gets sent to voicemail. > > Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > > > > None defined right now as I recall. I'm not sure there needs to be a > > standard default. It might be OK for the proxy to set the default > > administratively. > > > > -Jonathan R. > > > > Kenny Hom wrote: > > > > > > Regarding the Call Processing Language (CPL) draft, are there default > > > timeout values for the elements that accept timeout as an argument if > > > the user does not specify a value? > > > > > > -- > > > Kenny Hom > > > Senior Software Engineer > > > Vovida Networks, 2150 Trade Zone Blvd. 105, San Jose, CA 95131 > > > [W] (408) 941-1790 / [F] (408) 941-1791 > > > > > > --------- > > > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 200 Executive Drive Chief Scientist Suite 120 dynamicsoft West Orange, NJ 07052 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 11 12:00:36 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14495 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 4E3FB52E3; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:51:31 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id BDF0352E7; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:51:30 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:49:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200002111649.LAA23050@ind.cs.columbia.edu> From: Jonathan Lennox To: Jonathan Rosenberg Cc: Henning Schulzrinne , khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: CPL's timeouts In-Reply-To: <38A43B11.A45B39C7@dynamicsoft.com> References: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> <38A3A7AF.ABBEBFE7@dynamicsoft.com> <38A405E3.6180A035@cs.columbia.edu> <38A43B11.A45B39C7@dynamicsoft.com> Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, February 11 2000, "Jonathan Rosenberg" wrote to "Henning Schulzrinne, khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, lennox@cs.columbia.edu" saying: > OK; I'll buy this argument. Which tags need timeouts? Isn't it only > proxy? I think perhaps a reasonable default is 30 seconds? Proxy's the only case where lack of response (noanswer) and failure are different. I don't think we need to worry about setting default timeouts for location lookup or the like. -- Jonathan Lennox lennox@cs.columbia.edu --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 11 13:28:25 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16601 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 2B00B52D6; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:22:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 9976452DA; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:22:34 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38A45352.D6E288A5@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:22:10 -0500 From: Henning Schulzrinne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Lennox Cc: Jonathan Rosenberg , Henning Schulzrinne , khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Subject: Re: CPL's timeouts References: <38A1DD6F.5F6D25EE@vovida.com> <38A3A7AF.ABBEBFE7@dynamicsoft.com> <38A405E3.6180A035@cs.columbia.edu> <38A43B11.A45B39C7@dynamicsoft.com> <200002111649.LAA23050@ind.cs.columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan Lennox wrote: > > On Fri, February 11 2000, "Jonathan Rosenberg" wrote to "Henning Schulzrinne, khom@vovida.com, iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com, lennox@cs.columbia.edu" saying: > > > OK; I'll buy this argument. Which tags need timeouts? Isn't it only > > proxy? I think perhaps a reasonable default is 30 seconds? > > Proxy's the only case where lack of response (noanswer) and failure are > different. A wholly unscientific check of call forward no answer seems to put the detault at 15-20 seconds or three-four rings (18-24 seconds). Not that it much matters, but 20 s seems to be about right. > I don't think we need to worry about setting default timeouts > for location lookup or the like. > > -- > Jonathan Lennox > lennox@cs.columbia.edu --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Thu Feb 17 06:14:08 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA08899 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 9890852D5; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:09:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 12A5052D6; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:09:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com From: "Jacob Avraham" To: "IPTEL list" , "MMUSIC list" Subject: Fw: Attention !!! Warm virus found ! Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:10:47 +0200 Message-ID: <028501bf7937$a3f88a80$7ac05ac2@mediagate> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-MailServer: Eureka! Silver Internet Server (v2.4 Build 1033) Organization: mediagate Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> If you recive an email as follows: >> >> subject: "Check this" >> body: "Have fun with these links. Bye." >> attachment: "LINKS.VBS" >> >> Do not open the attachment! Delete it immediatly and DO NOT open it! It >> contains a visual basic script that sends all your friends (at your >address >> book) the same email for them to open. It might also install a virus on >your >> computer. >> >> > > > --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Thu Feb 17 10:52:05 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16283 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 337ED52AB; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:47:30 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 933A652DC; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:47:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-Id: <200002171546.KAA16186@ietf.org> To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: RFC Editor Cc: Internet Architecture Board Cc: iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com From: The IESG Subject: Document Action: Call Processing Language Framework and Requirements to Informational Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:46:16 -0500 Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk The IESG has approved the Internet-Draft 'Call Processing Language Framework and Requirements' as an Informational RFC. This document is the product of the IP Telephony Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Scott Bradner and Vern Paxson. --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Mon Feb 21 05:02:09 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA02000 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 05:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id BCE1152B6; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:57:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 333CF52C4; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:57:29 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <9505F6390AA7D311A2D500508B951BEF1A0AEC@esealnt427> From: "Mikael Larsson L (ERA)" To: "'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com'" Subject: CPL and SIP-CGI Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:56:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Hello, I have following questions I hope someone could give an answer on: Could CPL and SIP-CGI be seen as complementary or should they be viewed as two different approaches for creating e.g. telephony features? To me it seems that CPL could be used as an off-line service creation technology and SIP-CGI used for real-time service operation during traffic which then would mean they could complement each other. I.e. write the service with CPL as a kind of SIP CGI script that is called in during traffic. Regards, Mikael Larsson --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Mon Feb 21 09:22:01 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07872 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id A5B2152AB; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:17:28 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id 13EA452D6; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:17:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <38B149CF.520A521E@dynamicsoft.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:21:03 -0500 From: Jonathan Rosenberg Organization: dynamicsoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mikael Larsson L (ERA)" Cc: "'iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com'" Subject: Re: CPL and SIP-CGI References: <9505F6390AA7D311A2D500508B951BEF1A0AEC@esealnt427> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both are viewed as different approaches for creating VoIP services. Both are written offline, and both are executed when messages arrive in order to execute features. The difference is in the applicability. CPL is designed for end user service creation. Its purposefully limited in capabilities; its not a general purpose programming language. Its execution on a server is generally very fast. CGI is more powerful - you can do nearly anything. Its programming language independent. It incurs a process-spawning overhead, so its less efficient than CPL, (CPL is usually executed in the same process as the server). As a service provider, I would not want to execute CGI scripts sent to me by end users. However, I would prefer to use CGI to develop my own services. Note, however, nothing prevents you from use CGI as the execution envrionment for a CPL script, which is what I think you are suggesting. -Jonathan R. "Mikael Larsson L (ERA)" wrote: > > Hello, > I have following questions I hope someone could give an answer on: > > Could CPL and SIP-CGI be seen as complementary or should they be > viewed as two different approaches for creating e.g. telephony features? > > To me it seems that CPL could be used as an off-line service creation > technology and SIP-CGI used for real-time service operation during > traffic which then would mean they could complement each other. > I.e. write the service with CPL as a kind of SIP CGI script that is > called in during traffic. > > Regards, > Mikael Larsson > > --------- > This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg 200 Executive Drive Chief Scientist Suite 120 dynamicsoft West Orange, NJ 07052 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (732) 741-4778 http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jdrosen PHONE: (732) 741-7244 http://www.dynamicsoft.com --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Tue Feb 22 11:23:39 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA14065 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 4FAE252DB; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:18:37 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id A9A7E52DC; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:18:36 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <005001bf7d06$a56fb320$b1cc8489@engtanlk.nus.edu.sg> From: "ICON'2000 Secretariat" To: Subject: Calling for your contribution! 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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF7D49.B392F320-- --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Feb 23 06:46:14 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA18677 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 8302552D4; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:33:59 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id B7C2A52C8; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:33:53 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com From: "Thomas Magedanz" To: , , , , Subject: CFP: Computer Networks Special Issue on IN and IP Convergence Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:02:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bf7ded$7302fcc0$ec4e25c3@ikvintern.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen! Computer Networks Journal plans to publish in February 2001 a special issue on "Voice / Data Integration - A Snapshot of Intelligent Network and Interent Convergence". Guest editors: T. Magedanz (IKV++) and M. Smirnov (GMD FOKUS) Deadline for submission is June 2000! Maybe a good candidate for disseminating your results! For more infos look at: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/events/IN-Internet/ Best regards, Thomas Magedanz (magedanz@ikv.de) IKV++ GmbH, Bernburger Str. 24-25, D-10963 Berlin, Germany --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Wed Feb 23 15:14:38 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01989 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 3824F52DB; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:09:06 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id A51BB52E1; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:09:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com From: "Andy Speter" To: Subject: ChipCenter/Motorola IP Telephony Webcast Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:45:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF7D43.849FA8C0" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: High Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF7D43.849FA8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all - Just wanted to alert everyone that ChipCenter, the new center of the electronics universe, will be hosting a live "IP Telephony" Webcast for Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector on February 25th at Noon PST. The subject matter will be presented by 2 Motorola SPS design engineers and ChipCenter's very own Communications Editor, Lee Goldberg. Below you will find a link to the registration page which also contains background information and other items of interest. Please feel free to join us for this free interactive online tutorial. webevents.broadcast.com/motorola/chipcenter022000/ Sincerely, -Andy Andy Speter Director of Strategic Accounts ChipCenter LLC 7 Pinoak Court Huntington Station, NY 11746 (516) 423-6830 phone (516) 423-6786 fax www.chipcenter.com ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF7D43.849FA8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings all=20 -
 
Just wanted to=20 alert everyone that ChipCenter, = the new=20 center of the electronics universe, will be hosting a = live "IP Telephony" Webcast for = Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector on = February 25th=20 at Noon PST.  The subject matter=20 will be presented by 2 Motorola SPS design engineers = and ChipCenter's very own Communications Editor, Lee=20 Goldberg.  Below you will = find a link=20 to the registration page which also contains background information and = other=20 items of interest.  Please feel free to join us for this free = interactive=20 online tutorial.
 
webeve= nts.broadcast.com/motorola/chipcenter022000/ =20
 
Sincerely,
 
-Andy
 
Andy Speter
Director of Strategic = Accounts
ChipCenter LLC
7 Pinoak Court
Huntington Station, NY = 11746
(516) 423-6830 phone
(516) 423-6786 fax
www.chipcenter.com
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF7D43.849FA8C0-- --------- This message came from the IETF IPTEL Working Group Mailing List. From owner-iptel-outgoing@lists.research.bell-labs.com Fri Feb 25 07:18:32 2000 Received: from lists.research.bell-labs.com (paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.161.172]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA05887 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 61C1C52F8; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:13:27 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-outgoing-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Received: by lists.research.bell-labs.com (Postfix, from userid 20006) id C690452FB; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:13:26 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: iptel-local@paperless.dnrc.bell-labs.com Message-ID: <001601bf7f89$01635f40$0401a8c0@oleane.com> From: "Peter Lewis" To: Subject: The VoDSL 2000 Conference Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:08:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF7F91.619E1A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-iptel@lists.research.bell-labs.com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF7F91.619E1A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 The VoDSL 2000 Conference will stand in Paris next 28-31 March. Key = speakers, case studies: take a look at: = http://www.upperside.fr/bavodsl.htm =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF7F91.619E1A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
The VoDSL 2000 Conference will stand = in Paris=20 next 28-31 March. Key speakers, case studies: take a look at:  http://www.upperside.fr/bavo= dsl.htm
 
 
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