From nobody Mon Jun 5 06:46:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A4A129458 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 06:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.075 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.075 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DEAR_SOMETHING=1.973, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8rYAqgj3zqlJ for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 06:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF29112871F for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 06:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E693E300548 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:45:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wkEiSPAs7rrJ for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9592930023A for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F2B64A70-D8E6-4E31-B0D2-C582849F8592" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <1B8E3BD3-52A1-492E-A8B6-E8F65D8E95B2@vigilsec.com> References: To: its Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:45:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Fwd: LS on: Draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 13:46:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F2B64A70-D8E6-4E31-B0D2-C582849F8592 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This just arrived in my inbox. It is a liaison statement from ITU-R = Working Party 5A. Russ > From: "Buonomo, Sergio" > Subject: LS on: Draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0 > Date: June 5, 2017 at 9:10:06 AM EDT > To: "adrian.scrase@etsi.org" , = "3GPPLiaison@etsi.org" <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>, "oflore@qti.qualcomm.com" = , "apostolos.papathanassiou@intel.com" = , "Juergen.Hildebrandt@de.bosch.com" = , "y-ohmura@arib.or.jp" = , "Lewis, John Arthur (TIES)" = , "parvez@apt.int" , = "npa@anemonetechnology.com" , = "zhaosz@ccsa.org.cn" , "hans.johansson@kapsch.net" = , "michael.mahler@de.bosch.com" = , "Holger.Butscheidt@bnetza.de" = , "Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org" = , "Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org" = , "lasse.wieweg@ericsson.com" = , "freqmgr@ieee.org" , = "MJLynch@mjlallc.com" , "cpignata@cisco.com" = , "housley@vigilsec.com" , = "aguan@itsa.org" , "SMontgomery@tiaonline.org" = , "knk@tta.or.kr" , = "aroytblat@wi-fi.org" > Cc: "Jose Costa (jose.costa@ericsson.com)" >=20 > Addressed to: 3GPP, 5G Automotive Association, 79 GHz Project, ARIB, = AWG, C2C-CC, CCSA, ETSI ERM-TG37, ETSI ERM-TGSRR, ETSI TC ERM, ETSI TC = ERM TG 37, ETSI TC ITS, GSA, IEEE, IETF ITS, ISO TC 204, TIA, TTA, Wi-Fi = Alliance > =20 > Dear Sir/Madam, > =20 > Please find attached a Liaison Statement (Document = LS_Eos_5A_141R1.docx) from ITU-R Working Party 5A entitled: > =E2=80=9CDraft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0=E2=80=9D. > =20 > The Attachment is an extract from the WP 5A Chairman=E2=80=99s Report = (Document 5A/469 ) that can = be found at (https://www.itu.int/md/R15-WP5A-C-0469/en = ). > =20 > Yours Sincerely, > Sergio > =20 > =20 > Sergio Buonomo >=20 > Counselor ITU-R Study Group 5=20 > Radiocommunication Bureau=20 > e-mail : Sergio.Buonomo@itu.int =20 > Phone : +41 22 730 6229=20 > > International Telecommunication Union=20 > Place des Nations=20 > CH-1211 Geneva 20=20 > Switzerland=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_F2B64A70-D8E6-4E31-B0D2-C582849F8592 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_729DE9D7-6F6F-4F93-B521-4C2D4794C360" --Apple-Mail=_729DE9D7-6F6F-4F93-B521-4C2D4794C360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 This just arrived in my inbox.  It is a liaison = statement from ITU-R Working Party 5A.

Russ



From: "Buonomo, Sergio" <sergio.buonomo@itu.int>
Subject: = LS on: Draft = revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0
Date: = June 5, 2017 at 9:10:06 AM = EDT
To: = "adrian.scrase@etsi.org" <adrian.scrase@etsi.org>, "3GPPLiaison@etsi.org" = <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>, "oflore@qti.qualcomm.com" <oflore@qti.qualcomm.com>, "apostolos.papathanassiou@intel.com" <apostolos.papathanassiou@intel.com>, "Juergen.Hildebrandt@de.bosch.com" <Juergen.Hildebrandt@de.bosch.com>, "y-ohmura@arib.or.jp" = <y-ohmura@arib.or.jp>, "Lewis, John Arthur (TIES)" = <john.lewis@ties.itu.int>, "parvez@apt.int" <parvez@apt.int>, "npa@anemonetechnology.com" <npa@anemonetechnology.com>, "zhaosz@ccsa.org.cn" = <zhaosz@ccsa.org.cn>, "hans.johansson@kapsch.net" <hans.johansson@kapsch.net>, "michael.mahler@de.bosch.com" <michael.mahler@de.bosch.com>, "Holger.Butscheidt@bnetza.de" <Holger.Butscheidt@bnetza.de>, "Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org" <Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org>, "Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org" <Andrea.Lorelli@etsi.org>, "lasse.wieweg@ericsson.com" <lasse.wieweg@ericsson.com>, "freqmgr@ieee.org" <freqmgr@ieee.org>, = "MJLynch@mjlallc.com" <MJLynch@mjlallc.com>, "cpignata@cisco.com" = <cpignata@cisco.com>, "housley@vigilsec.com" = <housley@vigilsec.com>, "aguan@itsa.org" <aguan@itsa.org>, "SMontgomery@tiaonline.org" <SMontgomery@tiaonline.org>, "knk@tta.or.kr" <knk@tta.or.kr>, "aroytblat@wi-fi.org" = <aroytblat@wi-fi.org>
Cc: "Jose Costa (jose.costa@ericsson.com)" <jose.costa@ericsson.com>

Addressed to: 3GPP, 5G = Automotive Association, 79 GHz Project, ARIB, AWG, C2C-CC, CCSA, ETSI = ERM-TG37, ETSI ERM-TGSRR, ETSI TC ERM, ETSI TC ERM TG 37, ETSI TC ITS, = GSA, IEEE, IETF ITS, ISO TC 204, TIA, TTA, Wi-Fi Alliance
 
Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Please find attached a Liaison Statement (Document = LS_Eos_5A_141R1.docx) from ITU-R Working Party 5A entitled:
=E2=80=9CDraft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0=E2=80=9D.<= o:p class=3D"">
 
The Attachment is an extract from the WP 5A Chairman=E2=80=99s = Report (Document 5A/469) = that can be found at (https://www.itu.int/md/R15-WP5A-C-0469/en).
 
Yours Sincerely,
Sergio
 
 

Sergio = Buonomo

Counselor ITU-R Study Group 5 
Radiocommunication Bureau 
e-mail : Sergio.Buonomo@itu.int 
Phone : +41 22 730 6229 

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Best Regards, Paul On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Thanks for your detailed comments, > > I will consider and reflect yours on the revision. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Simon = wrote: > >> Sir, >> >> >> >> Find a few comments related to the document referenced above. >> >> >> >> If you have any questions, please let me know. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> >> Francois Simon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> >> > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --94eb2c19d414eaf2370551377d81 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Francois,
I have your comments in the following rev= ision:

Thanks = for your contribution.

Best Regards,
Pau= l


On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <ja= ehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi=C2=A0

Thanks for your detailed com= ments,

I will consider and reflect yours on the re= vision.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Simon <f= ygsimon@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,

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Find a few comments rela= ted to the document referenced above.

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If you have any questions= , please let me know.

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Sincerely,

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Dear IPWAVE Chairs (Russ & Carlos),
As = we discussed last IETF meeting,
I would like to ask for the WG ad= option call of the following draft
as an "ITS General Proble= m Area" draft according to IPWAVE WG charter:

Survey on IP-based Vehicular Networking for Intelligent Transportation Sys= tems
(draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey-03)
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-n= etworking-survey-03

I have addressed the comme= nts from the IPWAVE mailing list in this revision.

Thanks for your coordination.

Best Regards,
=
Paul
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, = Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan Univ= ersity
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0paulj= eong@skku.edu
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-ja= ehoon-jeong.php
--001a113f97b007f5d905513fc9d9-- From nobody Tue Jun 6 06:59:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2A51292FC for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ly5NU5AyWV3R for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 06:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (x-bolt-wan.smeinc.net [209.135.219.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2285D128DE7 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 06:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834B630048E for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:59:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id hsjrOhPSeCbB for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98C93300429 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:59:31 -0400 To: its X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 13:59:37 -0000 The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational = document: This group will work on an informational document that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of the group. Should the IPWAVE WG adopt = draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey as the starting point for this deliverable? See = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-s= urvey/ Russ= From nobody Tue Jun 6 07:27:36 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E4D1294B7 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.333 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.333 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ohXYwuw5crdD for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1119F129461 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id v56ERVwD141383 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:27:31 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C9AD2025B1 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E44202514 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.8.34.184] (is227335.intra.cea.fr [10.8.34.184]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.15.2/8.15.2/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.4) with ESMTP id v56ERUCc024074 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:27:30 +0200 To: its@ietf.org References: From: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <277c0b18-6d0e-53d2-d38d-eeb80deb20fc@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:27:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:27:35 -0000 I support adoption. The 'Intended status' on the first page should say INFORMATIONAL. Maybe some other use-cases could be added, or no. Alex Le 06/06/2017 à 15:59, Russ Housley a écrit : > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational document: > > This group will work on an informational document > that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe > the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > the group. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > From nobody Tue Jun 6 07:37:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E97A129456; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 07:37:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.53.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149675986955.3871.2235563704689040201.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 07:37:49 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] The IPWAVE WG has placed draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:37:50 -0000 The IPWAVE WG has placed draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Russ Housley) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey/ From nobody Tue Jun 6 07:57:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD74B129474 for ; 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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:57:19 -0000 --001a1146f198e38ab105514bd520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support the adoption of this draft. Best regards Nabil On Jun 6, 2017 14:27, "Alexandre Petrescu" wrote: > I support adoption. > > The 'Intended status' on the first page should say INFORMATIONAL. > > Maybe some other use-cases could be added, or no. > > Alex > > Le 06/06/2017 =C3=A0 15:59, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit : > >> The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational >> document: >> >> This group will work on an informational document >> that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe >> the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of >> the group. >> >> Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-surve= y >> as the starting point for this deliverable? >> >> See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicula >> r-networking-survey/ >> >> Russ >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> >> > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --001a1146f198e38ab105514bd520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of this draft.

Best regards
Nabil

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On J= un 6, 2017 14:27, "Alexandre Petrescu" <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
I support adoption.

The 'Intended status' on the first page should say INFORMATIONAL.
Maybe some other use-cases could be added, or no.

Alex

Le 06/06/2017 =C3=A0 15:59, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit :
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational docum= ent:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0This group will work on an informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that will explain the state of the art in the field and descri= be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the group.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-sur= vey
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey/<= /a>

Russ
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--001a1146f198e38ab105514bd520-- From nobody Tue Jun 6 08:00:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF9B1293EC for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kjkuZkACnrO2 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xenon43.um.es (xenon43.um.es [155.54.212.170]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830741294CC for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon43.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EFD204CE; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:00:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon43.um.es Received: from xenon43.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon43.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id u8MAE820-SHL; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:00:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.34] (85.red-83-32-233.dynamicip.rima-tde.net [83.32.233.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: josesanta) by xenon43.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3251B233B6; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C9967D4A-D860-471B-81BC-62D8257B784F Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: =?utf-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Santa_Lozano?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14E304) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 17:00:37 +0200 Cc: Alexandre Petrescu , its@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1FC9DDDD-4E4D-40FF-8BFC-C6EE8D76340C@um.es> References: <277c0b18-6d0e-53d2-d38d-eeb80deb20fc@gmail.com> To: Nabil Benamar Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 15:00:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-C9967D4A-D860-471B-81BC-62D8257B784F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too. Regards, > El 6 jun 2017, a las 16:57, Nabil Benamar escribi=C3= =B3: >=20 > I support the adoption of this draft. >=20 > Best regards > Nabil >=20 > =20 >=20 >> On Jun 6, 2017 14:27, "Alexandre Petrescu" = wrote: >> I support adoption. >>=20 >> The 'Intended status' on the first page should say INFORMATIONAL. >>=20 >> Maybe some other use-cases could be added, or no. >>=20 >> Alex >>=20 >>> Le 06/06/2017 =C3=A0 15:59, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit : >>> The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational do= cument: >>>=20 >>> This group will work on an informational document >>> that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe >>> the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of >>> the group. >>>=20 >>> Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-surve= y >>> as the starting point for this deliverable? >>>=20 >>> See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networ= king-survey/ >>>=20 >>> Russ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --Apple-Mail-C9967D4A-D860-471B-81BC-62D8257B784F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me too.

Regards,

El= 6 jun 2017, a las 16:57, Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:

I support the adoption of this draft.
Best regards
Nabil

&n= bsp;  

On Jun 6, 2017 14:27, "Alexandre Petrescu" <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
I support adoption.

The 'Intended status' on the first page should say INFORMATIONAL.

Maybe some other use-cases could be added, or no.

Alex

Le 06/06/2017 =C3=A0 15:59, Russ Housley a =C3=A9crit :
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational docume= nt:

   This group will work on an informational document
   that will explain the state of the art in the field and describ= e
   the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of<= br>    the group.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-surv= ey
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracke= r.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey/=

Russ
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= --Apple-Mail-C9967D4A-D860-471B-81BC-62D8257B784F-- From nobody Tue Jun 6 09:15:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E861294D4 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:15:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.409 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.409 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7gt6gT3xAEgJ for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonic314-27.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic314-27.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.69.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27CD5128B91 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1496765716; bh=rXLr4Ewki2Uy7SRGR5SPSbHBGjn6mHLr5WSGjLzfb4E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=Uo13HycplZC0sw7+ohXRrRGB5GaZrTOpqseiTnrHb+hbfdj12KHBVi6mv8N+DHlQ8o5kdW4CrkqIdbyL4ysqQxyBsddJdtR29EzRTc3wGHRhN0VrfCt310Hu2gImchW1iaUYa379CMojJryr33JknRiagYJNsdkUIBsX2FCdXvk3VXTGzjMdJ1Ar4jwPzFyEvfgXnqMfZn+jwZfUh/NEubdorqRPAQJaZO73IbIXsC6YOJKEs/V6Whi6ZXHx1Q0vJHCLiUpwyOojumNE6ACMiSG74eQqbXu4x3+TT3WW0EZvPkBdC1V8v+5CSODmDrz/ygO5LO+oof8jKnPrbfa8OQ== X-YMail-OSG: .a8aiYoVM1nUQlIp.1t3v28Zx.By7RNlEwcvrJkXTUDsPjdAJHYHqV3aZ6wVz1M FOt7AvDKFSBTAmnswLrN9Or_IC0RDMxP22cWFSVK.YMgOKuGqnjO_Ex_W4oSgAYS0liWwBvgG_Q_ mr_dP3l3EcYNdaxyaJHWTTL9YNBgaWf6s_8tE.79AaGOtSNpFdVMLfV1aqJnu8nVKm8L4mqqB.YW Yk6tpnwjr8d4nP9WF3Fq6kRaOAiV2FffoGB2BWlgDcpWBbbkJKQgTiVSqKkC1wrFJtJ0XGD1wwKM 31zCvOBBer4wFFGRg0B9_SI8.A9WGNJ6M0Jgega645ZaNWbVJV6ZSXTeY1kZXVtpTylE7nBOl4_R kO_iP1uTu_QDdqUf1O2sFD0UPyM3SEFqroTtzOtKMlJRclpP4hqIRG60mvprXd2aF2q1FsUy_CeK Hb5YmNVTr.R.Ls7o87YvE97yJzLNk9DsvDp2hksBNDmmW81RfKjZA05BC5X5Nyf6j55UB_9ceIBb RfGxw0rrugJgmJhpiiYxPD0s0_zNcvTiuTT_o70MZJY5SWab8 Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:15:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:15:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Reply-To: To: its Cc: Alexandre Petrescu Message-ID: <858670037.4060860.1496765714368@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <858670037.4060860.1496765714368.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.9778 YahooMailBasic Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/58.0.3029.110 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Wireshark Bug with WSMP (IEEE 1609.3) X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:15:18 -0000 All, Just FYI, there was a Wireshark bug with the dissector for WSMP (IEEE 1609.= 3).=C2=A0 The Wireshark developers did not have the most current spec.=C2= =A0 I chatted with the Wireshark folks & they said to go ahead and do a bu= g report for the WSMP formatting problems.=C2=A0 (I know the WS core develo= pers from various other contacts in the past).=C2=A0 One of the developers= is looking at the bug report.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Will be good to have Wireshark = be current.=C2=A0 Also, then, we are on their radar & can have other conver= sations.=C2=A0 Good to have them interested. Bug is below: [Bug 13766] Dissector for WSMP (IEEE 1609.3) not current https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D13766 Also, I am trying to get myself up to date & do all the reading in this WG = so that I can participate somewhat meaningfully!=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Alex Petrescu= has been kind enough to provide me packet traces and answer questions priv= ately. If anyone has any packet traces / info they might share so that I can get u= p to speed more quickly, I would really appreciate that!=C2=A0 I don't kno= w about others, but when I can actually see a packet trace, I can understan= d much more quickly. I am happy to work with the Wireshark people & do whatever other work might= help the WG in return. Thanks, Nalini Elkins CEO and Founder Inside Products, Inc. www.insidethestack.com (831) 659-8360 =20 From nobody Tue Jun 6 09:52:46 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0AF129AC4; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 09:52:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: "Carlos Bernardos" , "Russ Housley" Cc: Terry Manderson , sergio.buonomo@itu.int, IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments Discussion List , Russ Housley , Carlos Bernardos , Suresh Krishnan , itu-t-liaison@iab.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.53.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149676796476.3863.10419161976482574233.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 09:52:44 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] New Liaison Statement, "Radio interface standards of vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-toinfrastructure communications for Intelligent Transport System applications" X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:52:45 -0000 Title: Radio interface standards of vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-toinfrastructure communications for Intelligent Transport System applications Submission Date: 2017-06-06 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1526/ Please reply by 2017-10-30 From: Sergio Buonomo To: Carlos Bernardos ,Russ Housley Cc: Terry Manderson ,IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments Discussion List ,Russ Housley ,Carlos Bernardos ,Suresh Krishnan ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org Response Contacts: sergio.buonomo@itu.int Technical Contacts: Purpose: For action Body: Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0 – Radio interface standards of vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure communications for Intelligent Transport System applications was published in 2015. Currently, WP 5A is working on revising Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0 with the updated radio interface information. WP 5A invites external organizations to submit updated information if any on the technical standards characteristics, and will consider the input contribution material during its drafting process at the meeting in November 2017, upon receiving them prior to 16:00 (UTC) on 30 October 2017. WP 5A expects to finalize this Revision at its November 2017 meeting. Attachment: Annex 33 to Document 5A/469, “Preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.2084-0: “Radio interface standards of vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure communications for Intelligent Transport System applications†Attachments: LS_EOs_5A_141R1 https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2017-06-06-itu-r-wp5a-ipwave-radio-interface-standards-of-vehicle-to-vehicle-and-vehicle-toinfrastructure-communications-for-intelligent-transpo-attachment-1.pdf From nobody Thu Jun 8 02:05:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98611129C5E for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 02:05:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HK_NAME_FM_MR_MRS=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iek126c9UKg8 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 02:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A803E129B51 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 02:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id m47so122111079iti.1 for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 02:05:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qoWFh8/VphL75sAf538SKgteSnPt7VE+Yf0AlWRg3nM=; b=Hu4+Dfk5aJBvzpFzvxhY+wk26Wmlkl1FJkPKsz8wocrA4SJ03K11cNBDJD/nGhJyF9 ptPm6Bpt/O5TzS0G03xk4q78UQaDCZ0TQrRyqM94twecmdr1S0EEQUWe0B4dy98o4Vqf TAmd6jr+JbMZ+xlSXJbViMDtkQ/dbDwIbO/TGbs1Hp0ufUnRPHIwEtNBBLtI/brYVCGJ OipLnfiX5tsHrqUQnthZ66sZAPaRhZwNa4uqcmF/VkOaotcZ1+Fvea6OftDPFQXtC7Y5 of1QOzeMcNVw9QXc1jkpFmvtKRk4qYGZmjcMnERpQcIfNyqYayN1Na5ZPAg9lpYvRL/s vSOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qoWFh8/VphL75sAf538SKgteSnPt7VE+Yf0AlWRg3nM=; b=EGMITg0dTs/fj9V8AEiceL979o76TrgV153ofteS33Q61x+qJ0bsfd41cYHRpxMrMq uhAZuYT6mnVdMXcREsPGPBDSnBd+lqAKnr9nKDIBHSDDKzcKWlZUDfsdBzeGIRqkB9JR +RTmj9QX2eqSzDWgvU3g0X5jbr2H6LgZoD70pFxp36RbWTvfUUX8muLXZXXmEEXdateg zooMOoubSqQBkDeaZNTyS6Bu+xtZNnCctze8AiksVvO/GaKxan5EQIisPa3G1JyObPy7 dgA3l+QTD6f15yTR7pygQYoN/hWSHAOaU2f0Muvnwu6/+39N+zQe43URa/tczREdxstx q3Og== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBfTHa/HfrvMlfxAlqEjKFpH5sSeUa5WPyiWLAWTH5cgsy0PZDr c4QvJe0C2Q5YXHugD/rtr0v5iF3OL8OD X-Received: by 10.36.175.8 with SMTP id t8mr4259555ite.87.1496912706543; Thu, 08 Jun 2017 02:05:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.34.159 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 02:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:04:35 +0900 Message-ID: To: its@ietf.org Cc: skku_iotlab_seminar@googlegroups.com, "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045dc00e22250405516f26e3" Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Request for WG Adoption Call on Problem Statement Draft X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 09:05:09 -0000 --f403045dc00e22250405516f26e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear IPWAVE Chairs (Russ & Carlos), As we discussed last IETF meeting, I would like to ask for the WG adoption call of the following draft as a "Problem Statement" draft according to IPWAVE WG charter: Problem Statement for IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00 This draft is from merging the V2I problem statement and V2V problem statement as below: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-ipwave-v2i-problem-statement-00 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-its-problem-03 I have addressed the comments from the IPWAVE mailing list and the last IETF meeting in this draft. Thanks for your coordination. Best Regards, Paul -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --f403045dc00e22250405516f26e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear IPWAVE Chairs (Russ & Carlos),
As = we discussed last IETF meeting,
I would like to ask for the WG ad= option call of the following draft
as a "Problem Statement&q= uot; draft according to IPWAVE WG charter:

Problem= Statement for IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments
(draf= t-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00)

T= his draft is from merging the V2I problem statement and V2V problem stateme= nt as below:

I have addressed the comm= ents from the IPWAVE mailing list and=C2=A0
the last IETF meeting= in this draft.

Thanks for your coordination.

Best Regards,
Paul
--=C2=A0
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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Assistant= Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: = +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu=
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
--f403045dc00e22250405516f26e3-- From nobody Thu Jun 8 12:01:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3251270FC; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 12:01:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149694851741.15161.7180386944305787733.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 12:01:57 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] The IPWAVE WG has placed draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 19:01:57 -0000 The IPWAVE WG has placed draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Russ Housley) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ From nobody Thu Jun 8 12:03:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591041270FC for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rgi6VF2P68_V for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB70C126CF9 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 12:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9B8300448 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:03:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id xyHeGMkznK8K for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from new-host-6.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CF953003FE for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <9DDB779A-68DC-4598-BDC7-8A58D360B54E@vigilsec.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 15:03:51 -0400 To: its X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2017 19:03:55 -0000 The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational = document: The group will also work on informational document that describes the problem statement and the associated security and privacy considerations. Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement as the starting point for this deliverable? 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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 09:54:06 -0000 --94eb2c0cb03a06dcc8055183f308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear All I recommend the adoption of this draft. Best regards Nabil On Jun 8, 2017 19:03, "Russ Housley" wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --94eb2c0cb03a06dcc8055183f308 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All

I r= ecommend the adoption of this draft.

Best regards
Nabil

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

On J= un 8, 2017 19:03, "Russ Housley" <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to pu= blish an Informational document:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The group will also work on informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that describes the problem statement and the associated securi= ty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/

Russ
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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 03:00:03 -0000 --001a11c154c423b7a005520afbe8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Russ, I support the adoption of this problem statement draft as a WG document. Regards, Tom Oh On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --001a11c154c423b7a005520afbe8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Russ,=C2=A0

I support the adoption of this problem statement draft as a WG = document.=C2=A0

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Regards,=C2=A0

Tom Oh
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Russ Housley = <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informationa= l document:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The group will also work on informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that describes the problem statement and the associated securi= ty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/

Russ
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--001a11c154c423b7a005520afbe8-- From nobody Thu Jun 15 22:15:47 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1612D128616 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:15:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.749 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.749 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K5djce8WOhl8 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x22f.google.com (mail-ot0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DF3D1277BB for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id y47so1017201oty.0 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:15:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MI2s24mQdjimA6Iet6e2bAhb6rmCAU1o/qcFUjDOE0Q=; b=GuIBln6dKpO3XdJtYX1aWE5pvezWBETfUDWD0oVjGtsgCsO79vxE4fM3Ttk6BH5jun Z/b37UT85WZyz4ZdpvUCbMydlYbo89dRxPs2cpN9Bjhhml2XM3DVwFsBGtWAkJ0d1M0a VRan6HuoAGQnWPIkaLBq18/zbqvVDVULPqmcdCAI8fFm94baftg5fADCAAd+tQyNqbmH fgyl1Ztt8BLXdO7GO6uG/wogh2VLkbzVcLyrc/zsPjGlPAUjPMo5U2rud44nqK9j/pjR czpj9S+OcsEMnl299LKh4ZRhJ21vpskjZX+eO/br0iLmzxKAAsdb4oqF1ZCjVi32E6Jx 9A3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MI2s24mQdjimA6Iet6e2bAhb6rmCAU1o/qcFUjDOE0Q=; b=NjfJneS9h1dgFOPKKbngfphaqHUsYXvwd6q8j45fyFq8VXjfdYuc/cuRYpycthYkY1 7jpGjdrGzCAcfgcKrXONzCCgMxoPLxLa7g3pxbJn19PMccosR++s4bb8AtDYCscdprB3 g8ic1dXIttDr0tjxBc384STNA8VPV0KGNH+f+rMyPKlTzWxgLMEWh8FDwso6lh/ptEPe z5GLRAFkOzp5sFhu9zX+4HyhAbKLUz3g+k4woA6fPcMPmXvEoO1tdapmafivMMGDtaRJ lve1RC0eTWC+ZZ/yaKmFq78bH5fMs82VOVefv/Pr1TMl8/rCbWGsocOKZw4lo+kn570u Tbtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzHEQJz/rkhidxbETF29UH4beamcSZxmk/4PKE7E9X/D5MWX1TK oNIeYN0JU1o78nzSOSb8M9lsS3gy7Q== X-Received: by 10.157.14.168 with SMTP id 37mr4999239otj.177.1497590143803; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:15:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9DDB779A-68DC-4598-BDC7-8A58D360B54E@vigilsec.com> In-Reply-To: <9DDB779A-68DC-4598-BDC7-8A58D360B54E@vigilsec.com> From: Chris Shen Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 05:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley , its Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113adc068a677405520ce0f7" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 05:15:46 -0000 --001a113adc068a677405520ce0f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, all I support the adoption for this draft as an Informational document in IPWAVE WG. Thanks, Chris. On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 at 4:03 AM Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > -- Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Ph.D Candidate IoT Lab: *http://iotlab.skku.edu * Sungkyunkwan University, Suwon, South Korea Mobile:+82-(0)10-6871-8103 Email: chrisshen@skku.edu --001a113adc068a677405520ce0f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, all

I support the adoption for this draft as an Informational document i= n IPWAVE WG.

Thanks,
Chris.

On Fri,= 9 Jun 2017 at 4:03 AM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational= document:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The group will also work on informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that describes the problem statement and the associated securi= ty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/

Russ
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Sungkyunkwan University, Suwon, South = Korea
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Email:=C2=A0chrisshen@skku.edu
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--001a113adc068a677405520ce0f7-- From nobody Fri Jun 16 00:18:14 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05D91314BB for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:18:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6DGFHDh1Dvgp for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xenon41.um.es (xenon41.um.es [155.54.212.167]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADF612956D for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 00:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D831208C4; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 09:17:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by antispam in UMU at xenon41.um.es Received: from xenon41.um.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (xenon41.um.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DddNUgcmzHwr; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 09:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falamo-236-64.inf.um.es (falamo-236-64.inf.um.es [155.54.236.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: josesanta) by xenon41.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C20662078A; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 09:17:13 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Santa_Lozano?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D7F041E2-4461-4247-A70B-7051A6ECC3A6" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 09:17:12 +0200 References: <9DDB779A-68DC-4598-BDC7-8A58D360B54E@vigilsec.com> To: Russ Housley , its In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 07:18:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D7F041E2-4461-4247-A70B-7051A6ECC3A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, I also support it. Regards, --=20 Jos=C3=A9 Santa Lozano Department of Information and Communication Engineering Faculty of Computer Science University of Murcia 30100 Murcia, Spain Phone: +34-868-884616 / +34-868-884455 Fax: +34-868-884151 > El 16 jun 2017, a las 7:15, Chris Shen = escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > Hi, all >=20 > I support the adoption for this draft as an Informational document in = IPWAVE WG. >=20 > Thanks, > Chris. >=20 > On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 at 4:03 AM Russ Housley > wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational = document: >=20 > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. >=20 > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? >=20 > See = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ = >=20 > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its = > --=20 >=20 > Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Ph.D Candidate > IoT Lab: http://iotlab.skku.edu > Sungkyunkwan University, Suwon, South Korea > Mobile:+82-(0)10-6871-8103 > Email: chrisshen@skku.edu = _______________________________________________= > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --Apple-Mail=_D7F041E2-4461-4247-A70B-7051A6ECC3A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi,

I = also support it.

Regards,

-- 
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Department = of Information and Communication Engineering
Faculty of Computer Science
University of = Murcia
30100 = Murcia, Spain
Phone: +34-868-884616 / +34-868-884455
Fax: +34-868-884151






El 16 jun 2017, a las 7:15, Chris Shen <shenyiwen7@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:

Hi, all

I support the adoption for = this draft as an Informational document in IPWAVE WG.

Thanks,
Chris.

On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 = at 4:03 AM Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter = calls for the group to publish an Informational document:

   The group will also work on informational document
   that describes the problem statement and the associated = security
   and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-sta= tement/

Russ
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IoT Lab: http://iotlab.skku.edu
Sungkyunkwan University, Suwon, South Korea
Mobile:+82-(0)10-6871-8103
Email: chrisshen@skku.edu
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Dear all,

I support adoption of this draft.

Regards,

Sandra C=C3=A9spedes
Depto de Ingenier=C3=ADa El=C3=A9ctr= ica
Universidad de Chile
www.cec.uchile.cl/~scespedes

On Jun 8, 2017 2:04= PM, "Russ Housley" <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter calls= for the group to publish an Informational document:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The group will also work on informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that describes the problem statement and the associated securi= ty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/

Russ
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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 03:02:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_642DDB35-574F-45C2-8DB4-BF16883524AD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, I support this adoption.=20 -- Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon > 2017. 6. 15. =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:11, Sandra C=C3=A9spedes = =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > I support adoption of this draft. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Sandra C=C3=A9spedes=20 > Depto de Ingenier=C3=ADa El=C3=A9ctrica > Universidad de Chile > www.cec.uchile.cl/~scespedes >=20 > On Jun 8, 2017 2:04 PM, "Russ Housley" > wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational = document: >=20 > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. >=20 > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? >=20 > See = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ = >=20 > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --Apple-Mail=_642DDB35-574F-45C2-8DB4-BF16883524AD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi all, I support this adoption. 
--
Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null = and /dev/random
Protocol Engineering Lab., = Sangmyung University

#email: jonghyouk@gmail.com
#webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon

2017. 6. 15. =EC=98=A4=ED=9B=84 12:11, Sandra C=C3=A9spedes = <scespede@niclabs.cl> =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1:

Dear all,
I support adoption of = this draft.

Regards,

Sandra = C=C3=A9spedes
Depto de Ingenier=C3=ADa El=C3=A9ctrica
Universidad de Chile
www.cec.uchile.cl/~scespedes

On Jun 8, 2017 2:04 PM, "Russ Housley" <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to = publish an Informational document:

   The group will also work on informational document
   that describes the problem statement and the associated = security
   and privacy considerations.

Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/
Russ
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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:47:44 -0000 Hello participants to IPWAVE WG, I wonder whether in V2V communications the LTE-V PC5 interface is IP-enabled? It would only seem natural to be so, given all the earlier mantra of all-IP during the 3G to 4G transition. 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Thread-Index: AQHS6dQw7BLWATvxW0in5Y136sGoCqIt2rHw Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:20:17 +0000 Message-ID: <67E73AAEE1380D49959336EE48BDF01C39186098@ORSMSX115.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <60b62757-f165-e43c-c6af-dd8c14e105ad@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60b62757-f165-e43c-c6af-dd8c14e105ad@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ctpclassification: CTP_IC x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiZjFkMGM5YjYtZjQyZi00OWM2LTgwZGUtNmU0ZjJmODRjZDY1IiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX0lDIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE2LjUuOS4zIiwiVHJ1c3RlZExhYmVsSGFzaCI6IjZaNEg3ejc5M0JUOGxFNjk5K3dNMnExWUNUcFQ5RmlYbzA4XC9Wd0JQYjBBPSJ9 dlp-product: dlpe-windows dlp-version: 10.0.102.7 dlp-reaction: no-action x-originating-ip: [10.22.254.139] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Is the LTE-V PC5 interface IP-enabled? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:24:53 -0000 Hi Alex,=20 Based on Release 14 TS 23.285 (LTE enhancements for V2X services), for V2X = communication over PC5:=20 - Both IP based and non-IP based V2X messages are supported. - For IP based V2X messages, only IPv6 is used. IPv4 is not supported in t= his release. Referring to section 5.1 in 23.285,=20 "5.1.1 User plane for PC5 reference point supporting V2X services The PC5-U stack as defined in clause 5.1.2.1 of TS 23.303 [5] is used for t= he V2X communication over PC5 reference point. IP and Non-IP PDCP SDU types= are supported for the V2X communication over PC5. For IP PDCP SDU type, only IPv6 is supported. The IP address allocation and= configuration are as defined in clause 4.5.1. The Non-IP PDCP SDU contains a Non-IP Type header, which indicates the V2X = message family used by the application layer, e.g. IEEE 1609 family's WSMP = [13], ISO defined FNTP [14], etc. NOTE: The Non-IP Type header and allowed value will be defined by stage 3." -Megha -----Original Message----- From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:47 AM To: its@ietf.org Subject: [ipwave] Is the LTE-V PC5 interface IP-enabled? Hello participants to IPWAVE WG, I wonder whether in V2V communications the LTE-V PC5 interface is IP-enable= d? It would only seem natural to be so, given all the earlier mantra of al= l-IP during the 3G to 4G transition. 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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:34:52 -0000 Hi, So far we have only received 3 opinions on this adoption. Please, express your opinion (in favor or against adoption, preferably with some comments in both cases). Thanks! Carlos & Russ On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > >    This group will work on an informational document >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of >    the group. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking- > survey > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-net > working-survey/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Tue Jun 20 09:49:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08296131BB5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=telekom.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sty3xGJzHhS6 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAILOUT21.telekom.de (MAILOUT21.telekom.de [80.149.113.251]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D7FD131B84 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:49:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telekom.de; i=@telekom.de; q=dns/txt; s=dtag1; t=1497977354; x=1529513354; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=6UQpKE1BPLY46BIE0vEmW1yoRdEWITso9X1DhfZLTz8=; b=Q2vVivMW5RXhgaR6hwORIsEgHoLiATX+vj8M69yDmPheWDnkKZ44wcY5 ex9SY1GDrIhyZjVKUyHIdB6Y9LuK8u3gqNiS5QIt5PMMT2CiX+Rp5F+T0 GWR7aY7vMtxq/3PnpZUa7K7McsF+QywFgGLJwisg/u5bcHnn31P7txJNR EFmn4HDapZKEc8zh2+RAun+/tm8GgYArZ3Oiynx4v+w9XtaJvbedw6KYu fJfkmMoDrXnfOCGjp2yPTQUPDtk6PUSKlC979jWplvmWoPaNMihW6cVBa 0YY6xTKEn6jnQqKJ0R1ot/u3u/vBCzUsbLUaI1nK9AUjdwdlOxLgCqctZ g==; Received: from q4de8psa04t.blf.telekom.de ([10.151.13.130]) by MAILOUT21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 20 Jun 2017 18:49:11 +0200 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.39,364,1493676000"; d="scan'208";a="686472998" Received: from he105829.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.169.119.32]) by Q4DE8PSA04V.blf.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 20 Jun 2017 18:49:11 +0200 Received: from HE105831.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com (10.169.119.34) by HE105829.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.169.119.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1263.5; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:49:10 +0200 Received: from HE105831.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::68a7:ffa4:81be:3178]) by HE105831.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::68a7:ffa4:81be:3178%26]) with mapi id 15.00.1263.000; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:49:10 +0200 From: To: , , Thread-Topic: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? 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[71.198.163.21]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n90sm28837980pfb.127.2017.06.20.09.59.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> From: Rex Buddenberg To: Russ Housley , its Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 09:59:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2 (3.18.5.2-1.fc23) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:59:19 -0000 Russ, et al, As a _survey_, this ID is fine.  There is value in simply cataloging the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.  So I'm thinking we should adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.  So I guess I'm ^ vis adoption.      But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the references.  Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call.  ... at least not yet.      Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or taxonomy.  What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) is what is needed but not present.  The use cases should lead to a taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts be present?  Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external to this draft? b On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > >    This group will work on an informational document >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of >    the group. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking- > survey > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-net > working-survey/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Tue Jun 20 10:24:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA4E131586 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=it-uc3m-es.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o-79krVf4PVX for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr0-x22f.google.com (mail-wr0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0E63131582 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id y25so60601094wrd.2 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=it-uc3m-es.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=message-id:subject:from:reply-to:to:date:in-reply-to:references :organization:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eudkY35p6UHVRaQKjhQDsvgr0RyfhekGuG+eFa0P88k=; b=lZYPOGhP1pTS2oxkiNTGCme35zxZRMVytcf7YLL5mBt2tx91nkJngnByIH0Y36j7EE t1V/UpCzHQU1by6eCFmYOBeNFHm9dy6IxGpON9rrwRJzSlrH1tE6mzwX9ifS84bfnCVA DBwOFTPhCPwXbUiVHKwwlJ/06WsDiUvGAWC0YUxuc/JEViJcDne4yG5oi1/s7PsOmK+b mb94jzpWdFH8KeZDMbg6EdKVIU9QJ61czM8TMsc0idCSb0Lzf/l1MQ5VhPHl9wa1OKRx F2uNo3SRBouvDzzxXSHVWEa/XBbLZL8mzv2bJNv1HSOX6vzTi+Vn983xOWu459T3OTVh aGLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:reply-to:to:date :in-reply-to:references:organization:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eudkY35p6UHVRaQKjhQDsvgr0RyfhekGuG+eFa0P88k=; b=nxhYHxJrMBQ6yd3/nqWKXyYtOAEhGdvD9j4glhk1Kh6SA22mV3uRURz9cI8BICImRd skkdWCVEkmCzdPkKzWNFO9SlxirUh7M9ulp5L0Ax+C3jnj9dmr0JagSxz6WTNf2eBqkA 2HTq58/FWdeMPn053zC5pghJ9tB3HZ52KLKt/uDYsFZGoh0iAon71uqWOdvjFDDPm1Q/ SQXGRR1vA/9DCgzt4xtKs4/vROQu5nIzQFaL5NHv6q3uWiySPvxtOavR+Hk5WZ6GQDq0 q4zS+kdRgnmZt+9VSkWOOn8btaN/Bv54DidrIqmV1kHJtmuWo2NChfrvFA4jR5QOJnC0 FRUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzgNdJTCo/lsvpGvuW1JF6RlVXJGydsrMVPAiF22egFd58nc5On 2NV5+AuM+Wih25nxYck= X-Received: by 10.28.1.85 with SMTP id 82mr3603576wmb.88.1497979447211; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acorde ([2001:720:410:1010:e543:a76d:b86f:b2c5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 18sm11873343wmt.6.2017.06.20.10.24.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1497979445.3352.73.camel@it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es To: Rex Buddenberg , Russ Housley , its Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:24:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> References: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:24:11 -0000 Dear Rex, On Tue, 2017-06-20 at 09:59 -0700, Rex Buddenberg wrote: > Russ, et al, > > As a _survey_, this ID is fine.  There is value in simply cataloging > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.  So I'm thinking we > should > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.  So I guess I'm ^ vis > adoption. >      But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the > references.  Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call.  ... at > least not yet. >      Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or > taxonomy.  What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) is > what is needed but not present.  The use cases should lead to a > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts be > present?  Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external to > this draft? Your point is very valid. The use cases should be covered by the document that the WG is chartered to produce. This does not mean that the current candidate draft can be adopted as this stage and the use cases then be added once the document is under the WG control. I read your mail as supportive of adoption of the draft with this assumption. Please correct me if this is not the case. Regarding the architectural work that might be triggered by the covered use cases, that could be discussed at a later stage, once the WG has met all the milestones (or is close to do so) and if the ADs consider it appropriate. Thanks, Carlos > > b > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an > > Informational > > document: > > > >    This group will work on an informational document > >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe > >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > >    the group. > > > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking- > > survey > > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-n > > et > > working-survey/ > > > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > > its mailing list > > its@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Tue Jun 20 14:56:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5DF131622 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.689 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.689 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HK_NAME_FM_MR_MRS=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXEw8JdPNeZi for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B7D112EB25 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id t87so93282519ioe.0 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8dYDsriLuPtYQwacIDupPWKXf2iXtM+GmKMfEa5DFjo=; b=bYsizt3LUfV+iFl/ZSOzLA2LY7HuM8GBwd59EAzhr9uzgRp77JkAD7IYJzbB5pdpnw hVjxDU6977RgpGCFiLIcmJqiDTMkPeE0Nkem4qJPh5Ww0U33Fsg2KIKP/4r2nZfe3p5n uV2jLMv1AFWk3kR3Pekvriq1IRDhrOFuwfFDrHnT2FB6z7vaWp+cgGuhUCkoz5Zw3VJL 5Tz/0z3f8zlPiiPIzDuJQcOneyY4atmo0Ol/Jn13DzZwArCRivG97iWMefb7R/D6J6/o 0IZ1wAw51ztR1LbUy6x+yrPkDN1o6GGuf+vUScPgdpQFQYp0gWyUZD9GbVCT+1Hja2pk kc/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8dYDsriLuPtYQwacIDupPWKXf2iXtM+GmKMfEa5DFjo=; b=GikuA1oNXScPV4CqlDbn5hDMusmafvpagAMK/E4402bxzFvhx+E1NIOW0xgre3bvu8 ylxiVUmCBntlChpW0TaoTisxVU6ODp3U0XzlMU7R2kc+0yPoUY/wMCO9h05iSKx2ILP/ +3sN8BmUrQFL7pP+Hdl7OS41t/647bdbNHCS9Mk1v7MJpn4bAlmOchgYSPp0zQXakaor 4REr///mMvVykN8E7QSr+nHWqsOXwgdtxBNbpaSO//gqS/3CidNuPv4ICm0Nqd4NNvZj PWdPx+1RjuekzZnzaYzIMn/FlkMDR3DCGxeq6oo7PCwPN1fOTEEUCzeW9oBJ/gS1wTkU 3h9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzMi3s53FLSOYa3MHbYrQdSfTtn/hA+ooo4YWPYlNNwUcF9JGIJ W8/xtgGXVNA6KYOCxvRUT6ej2KH8RA== X-Received: by 10.107.178.211 with SMTP id b202mr32793495iof.101.1497995805411; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.123.93 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:56:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> References: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 06:56:14 +0900 Message-ID: To: Rex Buddenberg Cc: Russ Housley , its Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114c84dadb74e405526b53a4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:56:49 -0000 --001a114c84dadb74e405526b53a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rex, As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers for use cases that are based on vehicular networking as follows: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.127=E2=80=93138. Switzerland: Springer Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.221=E2=80=93233. Switzerland: Springer. Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on advanced information networking and applications workshops=E2=80=94device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana, Switzerland, 23=E2=80=9325 March 2016, pp.252=E2=80=93257. Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru: leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international conference on mobile systems, applications, and services (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June=E2=80=931 July 2011, pp.127=E2=80=93140. New York: ACM. Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; 65(6): 4053=E2=80=934067. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Thanks for your comments. Best Regards, Paul On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg wrote: > Russ, et al, > > As a _survey_, this ID is fine. There is value in simply cataloging > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place. So I'm thinking we should > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'. So I guess I'm ^ vis > adoption. > But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the > references. Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call. ... at > least not yet. > Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or > taxonomy. What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) is > what is needed but not present. The use cases should lead to a > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts be > present? Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external to > this draft? > > b > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > > document: > > > > This group will work on an informational document > > that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe > > the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > > the group. > > > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking- > > survey > > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-net > > working-survey/ > > > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > > its mailing list > > its@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --001a114c84dadb74e405526b53a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rex,
As you mentioned, the revision of this draft w= ill include the papers for use cases that are based on
vehicular = networking as follows:
------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------
Hwang T and Jeong J., &= quot;SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation
Application for pedestrian= protection in vehicular networks",
In: Proceedings of the 2= nd international conference
on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengd= u, China, 19=E2=80=9321
December 2015, pp.127=E2=80=93138. Switze= rland: Springer

Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "De= sign and evaluation of a
smartphone-based alarming system for ped= estrian safety
in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of th= e 2nd international
conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Che= ngdu,
China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.221=E2=80=93233. Swi= tzerland:
Springer.

Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh = T, et al., "CASD: a framework of
context-awareness safety dr= iving in vehicular networks",
In: Proceedings of the 30th in= ternational conference on
advanced information networking and app= lications
workshops=E2=80=94device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Mon= tana,
Switzerland, 23=E2=80=9325 March 2016, pp.252=E2=80=93257.<= /div>

Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "Sign= alGuru:
leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal=
schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th internationa= l
conference on mobile systems, applications, and services
<= div>(MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June=E2=80=931 July 2011,
pp.12= 7=E2=80=93140. New York: ACM.

Jeong J, = Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive
interactive na= vigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic
optimization"= ;, IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; 65(6):
4053= =E2=80=934067.
--------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------

Thanks for = your comments.

Best Regards,
Paul
<= /div>

On Wed, Jun = 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com> wrote:
Russ, et al,

As a _survey_, this ID is fine.=C2=A0 There is value in simply cataloging the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.=C2=A0 So I'm thinking we s= hould
adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.=C2=A0 So I guess I'm = ^ vis
adoption.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some = of the
references.=C2=A0 Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call. =C2=A0..= . at
least not yet.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting= model or
taxonomy.=C2=A0 What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent)= is
what is needed but not present.=C2=A0 The use cases should lead to a
taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts be
present?=C2=A0 Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external to this draft?

b


On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote:
> The IPWAVE WG charter c= alls for the group to publish an Informational
> document:
>
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0This group will work on an informational document > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0that will explain the state of the art in the field = and describe
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus t= he work of
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the group.
>
> Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networkin= g-
> survey
> as the starting point for this deliverable?
>
> See https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-net
> working-survey/
>
> Russ
> _______________________________________________
> its mailing list
> its@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its

_______________________________________________
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[71.198.163.21]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c75sm36195081pga.38.2017.06.20.21.18.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1498018725.2400.166.camel@gmail.com> From: Rex Buddenberg To: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" Cc: Russ Housley , its Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:18:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2 (3.18.5.2-1.fc23) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 04:18:55 -0000 Paul, Use case: --------------------------- Instrumented emergency vehicle use case Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police cruisers, snowplows and more.  The reason for isolating this use case is that this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of all vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements.  In many cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result in exceeding the requirements for the family sedan. Scenario.   Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside.  These patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them.  The ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a hospital.  The ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic – a characteristic of most scenarios but with urgency attached. - a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to it.  Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least one attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor.  The requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the hospital and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant. - the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter track data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data (e.g. gas tank level). - the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the road.  Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), traffic light control. While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have similar needs. Requirements distillation: Security.  All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably authentic.  Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires confidentiality.  In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is required.   Availability.  Most automotive applications require high availability (Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services are the most demanding.  Typically four 9s.  This requirement cannot usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on the routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities. ------------------------------------------- Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that. On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > Hi Rex, > As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers > for use cases that are based on > vehicular networking as follows: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation > Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks", > In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference > on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19–21 > December 2015, pp.127–138. Switzerland: Springer > > Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a > smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety > in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international > conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, > China, 19–21 December 2015, pp.221–233. Switzerland: > Springer. > > Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of > context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks", > In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on > advanced information networking and applications > workshops—device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana, > Switzerland, 23–25 March 2016, pp.252–257. > > Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru: > leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal > schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international > conference on mobile systems, applications, and services > (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June–1 July 2011, > pp.127–140. New York: ACM. > > Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive > interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic > optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; > 65(6): > 4053–4067. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > Thanks for your comments. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg m> wrote: > > Russ, et al, > > > > As a _survey_, this ID is fine.  There is value in simply > > cataloging > > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.  So I'm thinking we > > should > > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.  So I guess I'm ^ vis > > adoption. > >      But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the > > references.  Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call.  ... > > at > > least not yet. > >      Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or > > taxonomy.  What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) > > is > > what is needed but not present.  The use cases should lead to a > > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts > > be > > present?  Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external > > to > > this draft? > > > > b > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an > > Informational > > > document: > > > > > >    This group will work on an informational document > > >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and > > describe > > >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > > >    the group. > > > > > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular- > > networking- > > > survey > > > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > > > > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular > > -net > > > working-survey/ > > > > > > Russ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > its mailing list > > > its@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > _______________________________________________ > > its mailing list > > its@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > > --  > =========================== > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor > Department of Software > Sungkyunkwan University > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php From nobody Tue Jun 20 21:54:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531AA1242F5 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:54:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5BvdJChg5wym for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot0-x22b.google.com (mail-ot0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81DAB12EC58 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id y47so82001176oty.0 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jqs3b5dEIplwrQzBrxctA92fsJo8AedNjCv0znWlkqA=; b=DKcHoWRnJ3vmmOkkGtAVKzKQpKJBmwDBIAvgLKJFp7vRJ86dMMaJ9h44TgfUZKPWA8 x9rD8GYy65nCuglMo+LUhOZfH1t9rf6y3KFUlB0GSDQ3c/OTvsCk00uULUj33IWXfO4V TbNs4uMAiKp0bL+jx+qCrbZbTSrWCr6QdRb18SBNlFO9e1iZeNb/3ONaMBWDxUIK9JMt WCJkAwC5vsNIq6yyPuykskshEILeFtjCHKtQlKxUxae+GlILoOKhBxVKmUmkcP2JAbkO lGjwLg46tD/3DpoUqFA9/1tSGJsGEqXPnc3fpXm8PIit/KCdGc9G7ZjvhAahKGHlIbIY XGTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jqs3b5dEIplwrQzBrxctA92fsJo8AedNjCv0znWlkqA=; b=KV3NQBTyhrPZ81GLZKIZIBEoq7RpJ4YZ/umLLUw+WNQLbihMPUX/p0SVV+Zbs4LOZL AzQUufw0qAMkolP+9b6VUfSbfvY3MJdXv7pDHmAPEMYOHoeGcVDHEakpUQau42he+Unw vKqe9LzeHW+q85TX6fGAB7J9eobE5Sz+Bbh8u8nX8ZitLV0u3uucwX/YVO3R9w+8I4eI BhnhZiLgSPXIxsqQEXKSdhoQm/M1cws6Mf0n5Kmp+u5ne3/MP5qNRQhHeIsytW9cmFmd V5MorA85Ix/+Nv+W460w3yDlIER26AXU8xMJdYr01gtxwmsvV59GSV2dskSIZ6JqKHjc i7HA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOwO0lbTb9e2Pu70x1zf6U9ee7pEyUJuie38LtQpldVNFZmjM2Gi Ok0x4d9xyLHDb6CjYfPxbkEPrwQ1PA== X-Received: by 10.157.28.134 with SMTP id l6mr17698871ota.87.1498020840974; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:54:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.8.110 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:53:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Shen Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:53:30 +0900 Message-ID: To: Russ Housley Cc: its Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f4030435c9b017b1a70552712816" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 04:54:03 -0000 --f4030435c9b017b1a70552712816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, all: I support the adoption of this draft. Thanks, Chris. On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > > This group will work on an informational document > that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe > the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > the group. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicula > r-networking-survey/ > > Russ > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > -- Yiwen (Chris) Shen, Ph.D Candidate IoT Lab: *http://iotlab.skku.edu * Sungkyunkwan University, Suwon, South Korea Mobile:+82-(0)10-6871-8103 Email: chrisshen@skku.edu --f4030435c9b017b1a70552712816 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, all:

I support the adoption of this draft.
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Thanks,
Chris.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Russ Housley <= ;housley@vigilsec= .com> wrote:
The IPWAVE WG = charter calls for the group to publish an Informational document:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0This group will work on an informational document
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that will explain the state of the art in the field and descri= be
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of=
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Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-sur= vey
as the starting point for this deliverable?

See https://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey/<= /a>

Russ
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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 06:07:46 -0000 --001a114ac23e8a16480552722f83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rex and Carlos, The IPWAVE problem statement draft has already included use cases for V2I and V2V networking: Problem Statement for IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00 I believe that the use cases suggested Rex and others can be included into this problem statement draft in the next revision. I think that the survey draft can include the published use cases as suggested by me. What do think about this? Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Rex Buddenberg wrote: > Paul, > > Use case: > > --------------------------- > > Instrumented emergency vehicle use case > > Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police cruisers, > snowplows and more. The reason for isolating this use case is that > this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of all > vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements. In many > cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result in > exceeding the requirements for the family sedan. > > Scenario. > > Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside. These > patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them. The > ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a hospital. The > ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic =E2=80=93 a characteristic= of > most scenarios but with urgency attached. > > - a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to > it. Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least one > attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor. The > requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the hospital > and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant. > > - the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter track > data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data > (e.g. gas tank level). > > - the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the > road. Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), traffic > light control. > > While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have > similar needs. > > > Requirements distillation: > > Security. All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably > authentic. Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires > confidentiality. In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low > probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is required. > > Availability. Most automotive applications require high availability > (Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services are > the most demanding. Typically four 9s. This requirement cannot > usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on the > routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities. > > ------------------------------------------- > > Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that. > > > > > > > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > > Hi Rex, > > As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers > > for use cases that are based on > > vehicular networking as follows: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation > > Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks", > > In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference > > on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19=E2=80=9321 > > December 2015, pp.127=E2=80=93138. Switzerland: Springer > > > > Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a > > smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety > > in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international > > conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, > > China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.221=E2=80=93233. Switzerland: > > Springer. > > > > Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of > > context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks", > > In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on > > advanced information networking and applications > > workshops=E2=80=94device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana, > > Switzerland, 23=E2=80=9325 March 2016, pp.252=E2=80=93257. > > > > Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru: > > leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal > > schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international > > conference on mobile systems, applications, and services > > (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June=E2=80=931 July 2011, > > pp.127=E2=80=93140. New York: ACM. > > > > Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive > > interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic > > optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; > > 65(6): > > 4053=E2=80=934067. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > Best Regards, > > Paul > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg > m> wrote: > > > Russ, et al, > > > > > > As a _survey_, this ID is fine. There is value in simply > > > cataloging > > > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place. So I'm thinking we > > > should > > > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'. So I guess I'm ^ vis > > > adoption. > > > But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the > > > references. Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call. ... > > > at > > > least not yet. > > > Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or > > > taxonomy. What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) > > > is > > > what is needed but not present. The use cases should lead to a > > > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts > > > be > > > present? Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external > > > to > > > this draft? > > > > > > b > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an > > > Informational > > > > document: > > > > > > > > This group will work on an informational document > > > > that will explain the state of the art in the field and > > > describe > > > > the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > > > > the group. > > > > > > > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular- > > > networking- > > > > survey > > > > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > > > > > > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular > > > -net > > > > working-survey/ > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > its mailing list > > > > its@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > its mailing list > > > its@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > > > > > > -- > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D > > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. > > Assistant Professor > > Department of Software > > Sungkyunkwan University > > Office: +82-31-299-4957 > > Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu > > Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Software Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php --001a114ac23e8a16480552722f83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rex and Carlos,
The IPWAVE problem statement draft has= already included use cases for V2I and V2V networking:
Prob= lem Statement for IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments
(draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement-00)

I believe that the use cases suggested Rex and others can b= e included into this problem statement draft=C2=A0
in the next re= vision.

I think that the survey draft can include = the published use cases as suggested by me.

What d= o think about this?

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul=C2=A0



On Wed, Jun 2= 1, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com> wrote:
Paul,

Use case:

---------------------------

Instrumented emergency vehicle use case

Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police cruisers,
snowplows and more.=C2=A0=C2=A0The reason for isolating this use case is th= at
this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of all
vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements.=C2=A0=C2=A0In man= y
cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result in
exceeding the requirements for the family sedan.

Scenario.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside.=C2=A0=C2=A0These<= br> patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them.=C2=A0=C2=A0The ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a hospital.=C2=A0=C2=A0= The
ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic =E2=80=93 a characteristic o= f
most scenarios but with urgency attached.

- a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to
it.=C2=A0=C2=A0Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least on= e
attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor.=C2=A0=C2=A0The<= br> requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the hospital=
and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant.

- the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter track
data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data
(e.g. gas tank level).

- the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the
road.=C2=A0=C2=A0Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), tr= affic
light control.

While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have
similar needs.


Requirements distillation:

Security.=C2=A0=C2=A0All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably=
authentic.=C2=A0=C2=A0Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires<= br> confidentiality.=C2=A0=C2=A0In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is required.=C2=A0= =C2=A0

Availability.=C2=A0=C2=A0Most automotive applications require high availabi= lity
(Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services are
the most demanding.=C2=A0=C2=A0Typically four 9s.=C2=A0=C2=A0This requireme= nt cannot
usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on the
routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities.

-------------------------------------------

Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that.






On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
> Hi Rex,
> As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers > for use cases that are based on
> vehicular networking as follows:
> ------------------------------------------------------------= -------
> -----------
> Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation
> Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks",
> In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference
> on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19=E2=80=9321
> December 2015, pp.127=E2=80=93138. Switzerland: Springer
>
> Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a
> smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety
> in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international<= br> > conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu,
> China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.221=E2=80=93233. Switzerland: > Springer.
>
> Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of
> context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks",
> In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on
> advanced information networking and applications
> workshops=E2=80=94device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana,
> Switzerland, 23=E2=80=9325 March 2016, pp.252=E2=80=93257.
>
> Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru:
> leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal
> schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international
> conference on mobile systems, applications, and services
> (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June=E2=80=931 July 2011,
> pp.127=E2=80=93140. New York: ACM.
>
> Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive
> interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic
> optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; > 65(6):
> 4053=E2=80=934067.
> ------------------------------------------------------------= -------
> -----------
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Best Regards,
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.co
> m> wrote:
> > Russ, et al,
> >
> > As a _survey_, this ID is fine.=C2=A0 There is value in simply > > cataloging
> > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.=C2=A0 So I'm thi= nking we
> > should
> > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.=C2=A0 So I gues= s I'm ^ vis
> > adoption.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But there are no use cases in the ID itself, = only some of the
> > references.=C2=A0 Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call= . =C2=A0...
> > at
> > least not yet.
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Further, there doesn't seem to be much of= a sorting model or
> > taxonomy.=C2=A0 What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong'= ;s intent)
> > is
> > what is needed but not present.=C2=A0 The use cases should lead t= o a
> > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts=
> > be
> > present?=C2=A0 Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing ext= ernal
> > to
> > this draft?
> >
> > b
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote:
> > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an
> > Informational
> > > document:
> > >
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0This group will work on an informational d= ocument
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0that will explain the state of the art in = the field and
> > describe
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the use cases that will use IPv6 in order = to focus the work of
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the group.
> > >
> > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-
> > networking-
> > > survey
> > > as the starting point for this deliverable?
> > >
> > > See https://datatracker.= ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular
> > -net
> > > working-survey/
> > >
> > > Russ
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > its mailing list
> > > its@ietf.org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i= ts
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > its mailing list
> > its@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
> >
>
>
> --=C2=A0
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Software
> Sungkyunkwan University
> Office: +82-31-299-4957
> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.co= m,=C2=A0pauljeong@skku.edu
> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people= -jaehoon-jeong.php



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Mr. Jaehoon= (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Software
Su= ngkyunkwan University
Office: +82-31-299-4957
Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com,=C2= =A0pauljeong@skku.edu
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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:02:07 -0000 Rex, What in this use case requires IP? More specifically, what=E2=80=99s = required beyond simple connectivity? We need specificity if use cases are to be constructive. Tony > On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Rex Buddenberg = wrote: >=20 > Paul, >=20 > Use case: >=20 > --------------------------- >=20 > Instrumented emergency vehicle use case >=20 > Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police cruisers, > snowplows and more. The reason for isolating this use case is that > this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of all > vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements. In many > cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result in > exceeding the requirements for the family sedan. >=20 > Scenario. =20 >=20 > Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside. These > patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them. The > ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a hospital. The > ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic =E2=80=93 a = characteristic of > most scenarios but with urgency attached. >=20 > - a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to > it. Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least one > attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor. The > requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the = hospital > and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant. >=20 > - the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter track > data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data > (e.g. gas tank level). >=20 > - the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the > road. Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), traffic > light control. >=20 > While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have > similar needs. >=20 >=20 > Requirements distillation: >=20 > Security. All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably > authentic. Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires > confidentiality. In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low > probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is required. =20= >=20 > Availability. Most automotive applications require high availability > (Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services are > the most demanding. Typically four 9s. This requirement cannot > usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on the > routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities. >=20 > ------------------------------------------- >=20 > Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: >> Hi Rex, >> As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the papers >> for use cases that are based on >> vehicular networking as follows: >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation >> Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks", >> In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference >> on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19=E2=80=9321 >> December 2015, pp.127=E2=80=93138. Switzerland: Springer >>=20 >> Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a >> smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety >> in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international >> conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, >> China, 19=E2=80=9321 December 2015, pp.221=E2=80=93233. Switzerland: >> Springer. >>=20 >> Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of >> context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks", >> In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on >> advanced information networking and applications >> workshops=E2=80=94device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana, >> Switzerland, 23=E2=80=9325 March 2016, pp.252=E2=80=93257. >>=20 >> Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru: >> leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal >> schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international >> conference on mobile systems, applications, and services >> (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June=E2=80=931 July 2011, >> pp.127=E2=80=93140. New York: ACM. >>=20 >> Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive >> interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic >> optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; >> 65(6): >> 4053=E2=80=934067. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >>=20 >> Thanks for your comments. >>=20 >> Best Regards, >> Paul >>=20 >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg > m> wrote: >>> Russ, et al, >>>=20 >>> As a _survey_, this ID is fine. There is value in simply >>> cataloging >>> the somewhat scattered efforts in one place. So I'm thinking we >>> should >>> adopt as 'state of the art in the field'. So I guess I'm ^ vis >>> adoption. >>> But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of the >>> references. Therefore the ID does not meet the charter call. ... >>> at >>> least not yet. >>> Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model or >>> taxonomy. What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's intent) >>> is >>> what is needed but not present. The use cases should lead to a >>> taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those signposts >>> be >>> present? Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing external >>> to >>> this draft? >>>=20 >>> b >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: >>>> The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an >>> Informational >>>> document: >>>>=20 >>>> This group will work on an informational document >>>> that will explain the state of the art in the field and >>> describe >>>> the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of >>>> the group. >>>>=20 >>>> Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular- >>> networking- >>>> survey >>>> as the starting point for this deliverable? >>>>=20 >>>> See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular >>> -net >>>> working-survey/ >>>>=20 >>>> Russ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> its mailing list >>>> its@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> its mailing list >>> its@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D >> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Software >> Sungkyunkwan University >> Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu >> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >=20 > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Wed Jun 21 08:40:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5409112EB99 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:40:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sFtwZmX84XSw for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg0-x236.google.com (mail-pg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2546612EBC0 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 132so44892142pgb.2 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:36:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1A+PfEHVxMsr3VwGBb8yAfdOjWMxYr+a4paUwKhwuPc=; b=qUMXKmrTqFh88mqXm08VMnMr/TgVbxMK7KcxSatZhpgCef0xtiglCAAl5tQvs2Mxyk ML7ePkC4J9tYdjQnFsWlQa8YSd7vMZdvz/Ti3bSdXCBCmWt8lgc051YR3budltv32/PG fhIrs4s2o7h5kILDGnXtSpeXM4tYz1Dt80bqZ8g8zvGfDKKbfDi+uAjQfLxw1V2/RCAL k1n+DGqJtteKHB/cn0hNcD5wxoZuhWcagzRyEh0rbD++nJWKzvJJ1t34mqx5J5K5eTxX I5vb6en+vFdrGlGGLVMWPU6qmhFJb8jKsK5CILrH86V67OvVmId4xRfig58+jRzM8Wq6 UIgg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1A+PfEHVxMsr3VwGBb8yAfdOjWMxYr+a4paUwKhwuPc=; b=qhPhYOtiBJvFR45vrWBq44vP7znLMdNZBMz5Pew/+pjJR0HUDA45tW1k00jeWPovWy sDjild/AMaHT0FODuOCec1Bqe5PUXZgeGzSWPwlHM6FFPmM20TrDL+CoMPEy0If/pAS0 bG6bugPPMPaZdoxnMgAStRgxc4HosbhekPidPVyAodf7hOB+g+rcp2bxuuDaT3tVyF3O HMCDTg8Gp7Mwtqk2rP2pq/AeV4lQAbLib9XkrOhUEx8vC0gwoZwgPEglwrEf++ftBTHs Ndhkz+lJ1dlRl+JKxdjrZfnrjRovQQJhlvzZizd7voTnaQsDkRFB3n/c0OsQQvemhGHl MB4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOyrTRS42Tp79bFxM9e8Zf6Qur+95vopgoLYRB8hLLE2g/ydOPHC p2Evp9IkDTwStl6m X-Received: by 10.98.92.3 with SMTP id q3mr16555321pfb.65.1498059405645; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-71-198-163-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. 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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:40:20 -0000 Tony, IP.  The telemetering of data to the hospital is an example of at least a three-segment internetwork.  Terrestrial WAN, radio-WAN and LANs.  In my book that makes a pretty good case for IP.  (The emergency services comms folks tend to view the 'backhaul', the terrestrial WAN, as an afterthought.) Different.  Volatile topology and security.   On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:55 -0700, Tony Li wrote: > Rex, > > What in this use case requires IP?  More specifically, what’s > required beyond simple connectivity? > > We need specificity if use cases are to be constructive. > > Tony > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Rex Buddenberg > > wrote: > > > > Paul, > > > > Use case: > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Instrumented emergency vehicle use case > > > > Emergency vehicles include ambulances, fire engines, police > > cruisers, > > snowplows and more.  The reason for isolating this use case is that > > this class of vehicles shares the communications requirements of > > all > > vehicles but has some more and more extreme requirements.  In many > > cases, meeting the requirements for emergency vehicles will result > > in > > exceeding the requirements for the family sedan. > > > > Scenario.   > > > > Consider an ambulance with one or more casualties inside.  These > > patients will have vital signs monitors attached to them.  The > > ambulance itself needs to deliver the casualties to a > > hospital.  The > > ambulance, of course, must navigate in traffic – a characteristic > > of > > most scenarios but with urgency attached. > > > > - a LAN within the vehicle has the patient monitors attached to > > it.  Additionally, the ambulance attendant would need at least one > > attachment in order to speak with an emergency room doctor.  The > > requirement is to telemeter the casualties' vital signs to the > > hospital > > and over-shoulder advice from the ER doctor to the attendant. > > > > - the driver needs communications with dispatching to telemeter > > track > > data (position), receive dispatching orders, telemeter vehicle data > > (e.g. gas tank level). > > > > - the ambulance needs to communicate with other vehicles on the > > road.  Collision avoidance, right-of-way warning (i.e. siren), > > traffic > > light control. > > > > While using an ambulance as example, all emergency vehicles have > > similar needs. > > > > > > Requirements distillation: > > > > Security.  All data in the above illustrations must be verifiably > > authentic.  Some data (such as the patient vital signs) requires > > confidentiality.  In some cases (e.g. police car stakeout) low > > probability of detection of the radio-WAN communications is > > required.   > > > > Availability.  Most automotive applications require high > > availability > > (Ao defined as up time divided by total time), emergency services > > are > > the most demanding.  Typically four 9s.  This requirement cannot > > usually be met with a single radio-WAN; multiple WAN interfaces on > > the > > routers required, with the appropriate protocol capabilities. > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > Not a formally published paper, but the draft doesn't require that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 06:56 +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rex, > > > As you mentioned, the revision of this draft will include the > > > papers > > > for use cases that are based on > > > vehicular networking as follows: > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > Hwang T and Jeong J., "SANA: Safety-Aware Navigation > > > Application for pedestrian protection in vehicular networks", > > > In: Proceedings of the 2nd international conference > > > on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, China, 19–21 > > > December 2015, pp.127–138. Switzerland: Springer > > > > > > Kim J, Jo Y and Jeong J., "Design and evaluation of a > > > smartphone-based alarming system for pedestrian safety > > > in vehicular networks", In: Proceedings of the 2nd international > > > conference on internet of vehicles (IOV), Chengdu, > > > China, 19–21 December 2015, pp.221–233. Switzerland: > > > Springer. > > > > > > Shen Y, Jeong J, Oh T, et al., "CASD: a framework of > > > context-awareness safety driving in vehicular networks", > > > In: Proceedings of the 30th international conference on > > > advanced information networking and applications > > > workshops—device centric cloud (DC2), Crans-Montana, > > > Switzerland, 23–25 March 2016, pp.252–257. > > > > > > Koukoumidis E, Peh L-S and Martonosi M. "SignalGuru: > > > leveraging mobile phones for collaborative traffic signal > > > schedule advisory", In: Proceedings of the 9th international > > > conference on mobile systems, applications, and services > > > (MobiSys), Washington, DC, 28 June–1 July 2011, > > > pp.127–140. New York: ACM. > > > > > > Jeong J, Jeong H, Lee E, et al., "SAINT: self-adaptive > > > interactive navigation tool for cloud-based vehicular traffic > > > optimization", IEEE Transactions on Vehicular Technology, 2016; > > > 65(6): > > > 4053–4067. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > ----------- > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Paul > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Rex Buddenberg > > l.co > > > m> wrote: > > > > > > > > Russ, et al, > > > > > > > > As a _survey_, this ID is fine.  There is value in simply > > > > cataloging > > > > the somewhat scattered efforts in one place.  So I'm thinking > > > > we > > > > should > > > > adopt as 'state of the art in the field'.  So I guess I'm ^ vis > > > > adoption. > > > >      But there are no use cases in the ID itself, only some of > > > > the > > > > references.  Therefore the ID does not meet the charter > > > > call.  ... > > > > at > > > > least not yet. > > > >      Further, there doesn't seem to be much of a sorting model > > > > or > > > > taxonomy.  What the ID does not cover (and was not Jeong's > > > > intent) > > > > is > > > > what is needed but not present.  The use cases should lead to a > > > > taxonomy and eventually an architecture -- should those > > > > signposts > > > > be > > > > present?  Or is this a proper subject for agenda bashing > > > > external > > > > to > > > > this draft? > > > > > > > > b > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 09:59 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an > > > > Informational > > > > > > > > > > document: > > > > > > > > > >    This group will work on an informational document > > > > >    that will explain the state of the art in the field and > > > > describe > > > > > > > > > >    the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the > > > > > work of > > > > >    the group. > > > > > > > > > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular- > > > > networking- > > > > > > > > > > survey > > > > > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > > > > > > > > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehic > > > > > ular > > > > -net > > > > > > > > > > working-survey/ > > > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > its mailing list > > > > > its@ietf.org > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > its mailing list > > > > its@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > > > > > > From nobody Wed Jun 21 09:08:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9AC12EC23 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:08:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t2iegFo2Ztkb for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EB7312EC30 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id NiAMd7SntU9z5NiAkdVYg7; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:08:02 +0000 Received: from [10.120.1.157] ([12.1.72.210]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id Ni8Yd1Hjoh8eeNi8bdTLO5; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:06:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: tony.li@tony.li In-Reply-To: <1498059404.2400.175.camel@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:05:46 -0700 Cc: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" , Russ Housley , its Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1497977954.2400.149.camel@gmail.com> <1498018725.2400.166.camel@gmail.com> <827A92DD-1EFB-4D65-A431-D1D23914D5E1@tony.li> <1498059404.2400.175.camel@gmail.com> To: Rex Buddenberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEZ+4eheDgCkdg4BO6fMuBM25Y4Cdc2mwvwXjXJ2a8cHt4RaDJrPNa/RfDCfT9Rz8ae5cW/sxOKAPYenLfxh2m2/yIKh5M+rNy9FbHwY3C5ejd37PfJl 2ViX/g0mAUddmp3ifDNUVFRsV8NnBCRgYYHUmbJRiqjgS7uDPLiuDoPFt7Ds3dXnhuApm9R8YQ5c5RC7SexQkBhXyz7630kysceITy5qU36dZi+MbeDPeAjJ 9MEA1sV0K+W49zfMseXwrw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:08:50 -0000 Rex, A few more questions, if I may: > IP. The telemetering of data to the hospital is an example of at = least > a three-segment internetwork. Terrestrial WAN, radio-WAN and LANs. = In > my book that makes a pretty good case for IP. (The emergency services > comms folks tend to view the 'backhaul', the terrestrial WAN, as an > afterthought.) Those of us from the Internet infrastructure world are used to being an = afterthought. Except at the IETF. ;-) I think that we can easily stipulate IP connectivity as a requirement, = otherwise we wouldn=E2=80=99t be here, so I=E2=80=99m interested in more = details. > Different. Volatile topology and security. =20 We=E2=80=99ve dealt with volatile last-hop topology before (e.g., = Wi-Fi). What=E2=80=99s different here? Does your use case require = multiple radio hops?=20 On the security front, we won=E2=80=99t be fixing the security = infrastructure of the entire Internet here, so there=E2=80=99s a limit = to what we can do. What do you see as the requirements that come out of = your use case and how do existing IP security mechanisms align with or = fail to meet those requirements? 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X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:54:03 -0000 On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 09:05 -0700, tony.li@tony.li wrote: > Rex, > > A few more questions, if I may: > > > > > > IP.  The telemetering of data to the hospital is an example of at > > least > > a three-segment internetwork.  Terrestrial WAN, radio-WAN and > > LANs.  In > > my book that makes a pretty good case for IP.  (The emergency > > services > > comms folks tend to view the 'backhaul', the terrestrial WAN, as an > > afterthought.) > > Those of us from the Internet infrastructure world are used to being > an afterthought.  Except at the IETF. ;-) The EMS community is used to VHF Land Mobile Radio with fairly high power.  All the routable radio-WAN technologies feature much lower power and therefore more dense networks of base stations.  The attitude has to change. > > I think that we can easily stipulate IP connectivity as a > requirement, otherwise we wouldn’t be here, so I’m interested in more > details. What details?  There are about 20k jurisdictions across the US, each with own purchasing capability.  So there are lots and lots of details;-).       Probably THE characteristic is that EMS has two comms systems. The first one is the one you and I use to call 911 to report a fire in the house.  The second one is the above-mentioned LMR system which is unique to EMS (and chronically obsolescent and underfunded).  There is no particular reason for the two systems other than 'this is the way we've always done it'.  The cry from the EMS folks has to do with QoS which is technically bogus but emotionally potent. > > > > > Different.  Volatile topology and security.   > > We’ve dealt with volatile last-hop topology before (e.g., Wi- > Fi).  What’s different here? Topology.  The radio-WAN is a router-router arrangement (WAN) rather than router-end system (LAN).  Which means that contention MACs are unsuitable. This is a layer 2 issue and therefore outside IETF.   > Does your use case require multiple radio hops?  Certainly in some cases.  One of my sounding boards was in the business in Wyoming where this is likely.      The anecdote here was that Wyoming was losing more snowplow operators to operations than they were cops.  The typical scenario would be a big semi overtaking a snowplow on I-80 during a snowstorm. The truck would get too close before the driver understood the situation and would rear-end the plow.  Good on-ice observation for some of the v-v stuff.   > > On the security front, we won’t be fixing the security infrastructure > of the entire Internet here, so there’s a limit to what we can > do.  What do you see as the requirements that come out of your use > case and how do existing IP security mechanisms align with or fail to > meet those requirements? IMHO, most of the security requirements are content security requirements, not infrastructure ones.  And they are end-end in scope. This means that they should be solved at layers 6/7.  Which means that authenticity and, when needed, confidentiality, should be built into applications.  S/MIME e-mail offers some good clues.      The 1609 folks harp about minimum latency.  And probably with about the best reasons.  Like the snowplow radioing out a 'virtual siren' that the semi can receive even in lousy vis.  That message has to be authentic but it shouldn't require a three-way handshake, meaning TLS is unsuitable. > Tony > > > Help? b > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its From nobody Fri Jun 23 09:07:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9261126CB6 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GFEiixNnJFSZ for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1F3C120726 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FE3300438 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:07:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id guvYHWoFKQAh for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38D07300266 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:07:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:07:38 -0400 References: <9DDB779A-68DC-4598-BDC7-8A58D360B54E@vigilsec.com> <1497972661.3352.63.camel@it.uc3m.es> To: its In-Reply-To: <1497972661.3352.63.camel@it.uc3m.es> Message-Id: <1524E894-6915-46D3-BB46-0BCBBB786873@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:07:43 -0000 We have good support for adoption of this Internet-Draft. The current I-D says: This Internet-Draft is submitted to IETF in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. So, I ask that the authors ensure that any needed IPR statements are posted prior to the posting of a draft-ietf-ipwave-problem-statement-00. Russ On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 15:03 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational > document: > > The group will also work on informational document > that describes the problem statement and the associated security > and privacy considerations. > > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement > as the starting point for this deliverable? > > See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-problem-statement/ > > Russ From nobody Fri Jun 23 10:17:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD3B12706D for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:17:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ow1Wr8O2otBF for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg0-x230.google.com (mail-pg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3282126BF0 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg0-x230.google.com with SMTP id e187so23631089pgc.1 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:references:mime-version; bh=iVaC+icDVLjYNYvG2PvDmg82S8Gg+bnvap1w4aqNN/8=; b=Dh15jsTeGJgMNqvHaNSpAyAUfDcycSeoDfTddFl3d14M3BASFqgQobmTLXlorxbWN0 xaUauPGwkLkQ2+YQRw0BDy0Ehom9RqQlP1CoIpOPtiQC7r5nmRp120OtI5g42KHNcbaY 3M0BJ6qPYvvy+a6K4kIrs3ujXBuY5ExLzkkKLEQU2knPCYijNDDTf6IADqpKWQ7p7GfY ujH7LeTaRlJ/r+41/VZ3uv+Si0VZXYV293DM5KXq/nCQHwYlU9tV4oBXJQ0LrSBcdVxk V5ZVpWUHN5EEcJkSfKYufu1Jz29EuiryMl/0Ydr+dUEAK16v67ZbEoKkulXGu7RcIF+M 2CaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:references :mime-version; bh=iVaC+icDVLjYNYvG2PvDmg82S8Gg+bnvap1w4aqNN/8=; b=CKSjp8nqm+bdCCp9NkfbkPy9MirfWl0Xs6jt3VnbJSFt+W+tN9R/wB4asXvehywCJD 6oB0UGlkeuognRJ7kKT8dotbvQNck1gF8EnLRL9/hCetr13nhgw/9n/SrSNg9iUG8eD3 2TMSjmBC2JRl3nqeU4CvshXxJandQ7HIr1GpQASS2VqQcNv/kJb/hoTfrBQhf9z1i+x+ tF843rZ3QyLLmZARnjkeEeM5/wohHMowArJsnWJcutTBwW52DQO7LRZM6vY5nIXzf+eY 1cqNLd4iQ50E/4FgC1Ot58ctZgkGTjbsFSyzy/N4Yc/jLgJ+0m4zB/AWhoq1q1Ka/iCE YveQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOxeVMByxHdVCYQl9R75yGG1OnZZwnWB2OgjurV31fel2QGDUnH7 Zn3oMqcujH1Dzen/ X-Received: by 10.101.85.141 with SMTP id j13mr9379698pgs.55.1498238224214; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-71-198-163-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. 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Regards, Steve From: ITSJPONews (FHWA) Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:51 AM To: Sill, Steve (FHWA) Subject: USDOT to Host Public Workshops on the Architecture Reference for C= ooperative and Intelligent Transportation [http://files.constantcontact.com/2f8591ae001/d40b6e94-8bc0-4f71-a1ec-1ba10= 92a208d.png] Intelligent Transportation Systems Joint Program Office News & Updates | June 23, 2017 The U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) to Host Two Public Workshops = on the Architecture Reference for Cooperative and Intelligent Transportatio= n (ARC-IT) The USDOT will host two free public workshops to describe the integration o= f the National Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Architecture, vers= ion 7.1 with the Connected Vehicle Reference Implementation Architecture (C= VRIA) into ARC-IT Version 8.0. 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ARC-IT identi= fies options for interoperable deployment of technologies from an enterpris= e, physical, logical, and communications perspective. It also facilitates t= he ability of jurisdictions to operate collaboratively and harness the bene= fits of a regional approach to transportation challenges. Additional online training resources will be posted at www.arc-it.net as they become available. WORKSHOP DETAILS During the workshop, the USDOT will seek stakeholder feedback on the conten= t and usability of the next-generation ITS Architecture. This workshop will= also: * Illustrate how ARC-IT relates to the National ITS Architecture, Versi= on 7.1, and the CVRIA * Describe the tools (what they are, what they are used for, and who sh= ould use them in planning for deployment) * Describe how ARC-IT fits into the deployment process. Representatives from the ITS Architecture team and the USDOT's ITS Program = will describe the evolution of the Architecture and walk participants throu= gh the two companion software tools: * Regional Architecture Development for Intelligent Transportation (RAD= -IT), which provides all the functionality that regional architects have co= me to expect from Turbo Architecture. This tool has been updated with a mor= e modern user interface and use of the ARC-IT database. * System Engineering Tool for Intelligent Transportation (SET-IT), whic= h provides architects with the ability to tailor and specify their implemen= tations. Please note that these workshops are free, but space is limited. Once capac= ity has been met, no further registrations will be accepted. For more information and to register, visit the links below. 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From: ITSJPONews (FHWA)
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:51 AM
To: Sill, Steve (FHWA) <Steve.Sill@dot.gov>
Subject: USDOT to Host Public Workshops on the Architecture Referenc= e for Cooperative and Intelligent Transportation

 

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Intelligent Transportation = Systems Joint Program Office
News & Updates | June 23, 2017

 

 

The U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) to Host Two Public W= orkshops on the Architecture Reference for Cooperative and Intelligent Transportation (ARC-IT) 

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The USDOT will host two free public wor= kshops to describe the integration of the National  Intelligent Transp= ortation Systems (ITS) Architecture, version 7.1 with the Connected Vehicle Reference Implementation Architecture (CVRIA) into A= RC-IT Version 8.0.

 

BACKGROUND

 

ARC-IT Version 8.0 is a major upgrade t= o the National ITS Reference Architecture that integrates content evolved f= rom both the National ITS Architecture Version 7.1 and the CVRIA Version 2.2. It is the first version of the National ITS= Reference Architecture to fully incorporate connected vehicle capabilities= in detail. 

 

ARC-IT provides a unifying framework th= at covers ITS comprehensively, including connected vehicle and traditional = infrastructure ITS capabilities. ARC-IT and the accompanying toolsets help implementers develop regional architectures to = effectively meet their needs and ensure regulatory compliance, while facili= tating efficient, secure, and interoperable ITS deployments. Version 8.0 of= the ARC-IT and its accompanying software tools are available at no cost from www.arc-it.net. 

 

The ITS Architecture provides a consist= ent framework to guide the planning and deployment of ITS and now connected= vehicle technologies. ARC-IT identifies options for interoperable deployment of technologies from an enterprise, physical,= logical, and communications perspective. It also facilitates the ability o= f jurisdictions to operate collaboratively and harness the benefits of a re= gional approach to transportation challenges.

 

Additional online training resources wi= ll be posted at www.arc-it.net as they become available.


WORKSHOP D= ETAILS 

 

During the workshop, the USDOT will see= k stakeholder feedback on the content and usability of the next-generation = ITS Architecture. This workshop will also:

  • I= llustrate how ARC-IT relates to the National ITS Architecture, Version 7.1,= and the CVRIA
  • D= escribe the tools (what they are, what they are used for, and who should us= e them in planning for deployment)
  • D= escribe how ARC-IT fits into the deployment process.
    • =

Representatives from the ITS Architectu= re team and the USDOT's ITS Program will describe the evolution of the Arch= itecture and walk participants through the two companion software tools:

  • Regional Architecture Development for Intelligent Transportation (RA= D-IT), which provides all the functionality that regional architects have come to expect from Turbo Architecture. This= tool has been updated with a more modern user interface and use of the ARC= -IT database.
  • System Engineering Tool for Intelligent Transportation (SET-IT), which provides architects with the ability to tailor and specify their implementations.

Please note that these workshops are fr= ee, but space is limited. Once capacity has been met, no further registrati= ons will be accepted. 

 

For more information and to register, v= isit the links below.

 

 

SUMMARY

 

Title: ARC-= IT Workshop 1 (Dearborn, MI) 

Date: July 26-27, 2017

Time: 9:00 am to 5:00 pm ET

Registration: Register here


Title: ARC-IT Workshop 2 (San Jose, CA)

Date: August 9-10, 2017

Time: 9:00 am to 5:00 pm ET

Registration: Register here

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**To view this announcement on the I= TS JPO web site, visit: https://www.its.dot.gov/press/2017/arc_it_workshops.htm.=

 

 


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--_000_BN1PR09MB0916A73230A95B7A55AA39E90D80BN1PR09MB091namprd_-- --=-msvnGqDji4wghReUcaQN-- From nobody Fri Jun 23 11:34:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E53D1286B2 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:34:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id taiHo0CUj6tv for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4900F12700F for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B403A300466 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:34:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id hW6Ot457wlfj for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 851D030009D for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:34:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:34:03 -0400 References: To: its In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [ipwave] Should the IPWAVE WG adopt draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey? X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:34:08 -0000 We have support for adoption of this Internet-Draft; however, the = discussion has raised some topics that need to be worked on. The current I-D says: This Internet-Draft is submitted to IETF in full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79. So, I ask that the authors ensure that any needed IPR statements are posted prior to the posting of a = draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey-00. Russ & Carlos > On Jun 6, 2017, at 9:59 AM, Russ Housley wrote: >=20 > The IPWAVE WG charter calls for the group to publish an Informational = document: >=20 > This group will work on an informational document > that will explain the state of the art in the field and describe > the use cases that will use IPv6 in order to focus the work of > the group. >=20 > Should the IPWAVE WG adopt = draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-survey > as the starting point for this deliverable? >=20 > See = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-networking-s= urvey/ >=20 > Russ From nobody Fri Jun 23 17:09:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietf.org Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EEA129B2B; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: suresh.krishnan@gmail.com, its@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826282229.7840.9549526200359835252.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:02 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] ipwave - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 99 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:07:02 -0000 Dear Russ Housley, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. ipwave Session 1 (1:30:00) Thursday, Afternoon Session II 1550-1750 Room Name: Athens/Barcelona size: 100 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Russ Housley Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: l2sm saag rtgarea manet 6man 6lo intarea stir lamps nfvrg detnet Second Priority: sfc cfrg dhc roll ospf i2nsf isis lime dmm People who must be present: Russ Housley Suresh Krishnan Carlos J. 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[193.145.14.145]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i67sm8483157wri.61.2017.06.30.07.07.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 30 Jun 2017 07:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1498831638.3084.2.camel@it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es To: its@ietf.org Cc: Russ Housley Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:07:18 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [ipwave] IETF 99: IPWAVE agenda requests X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: IPWAVE - IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments WG at IETF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:07:25 -0000 Hi, We have requested a 1.5h slot for Prague. Please, send agenda requests to the chairs by Tue, July 4th, indicating short abstract, draft name, and time requested. Obviously, requests from existing or related to WG items will have precedence. Individual items will be treated in fifo order. Thanks, Carlos & Russ