From nobody Thu Oct 3 23:02:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA7F1200F6 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 23:02:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oTwI1Vt0YrTA for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lj1-x22b.google.com (mail-lj1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 856791200F5 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 7so5220655ljw.7 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 23:02:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xA3GSfztuCu8eAu/m+YdmunaaptTY9tLoq3U3TZxptY=; b=jf6q2TSY35vUmtH4xXxCFvucfdegOBnhdmPLJrOfFCmwd7xZ76XpGcQvYhOgFcZmBL ZQnKl0TJ/5ZkiYG8qnwb1ByGvoCefErJ+CvsKndL2PzxQrtRbKu/E2GplBy4+sbN7VFq evnX1jg9aEN9mMVNouYKpSFzdYS7XkOgS3GA5Mtoh7nW8Lv4yuX6a1UxBVFKOGx//b99 XXCEVWrFqwoWcZXHa1USnKLj7MI44iNW7Lt14rj3oSRTS1RiKcprXiFoL9qZFUneuzth ZIR9rXkng0X+W8NFpQkYgbWQu5wt0/jAT3U5bg0lVffXfHsIq3iDDGTJLXCQ6EqXEW5g WW8A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xA3GSfztuCu8eAu/m+YdmunaaptTY9tLoq3U3TZxptY=; b=RCJupqZllXoi7YJ6+QkDnTfdoden9Tfb/gs9UT7//2uZf5cnG6SyQh50rXjVDfJfRC xjDSAo+yKq3wSo6ErDPxF6r/HhRv4XqSRCNHIhiXtuc86Q7Fmb0JyGRlZ8dNJ/GEoX1X ytZhifWFBaZW9IS2u3bAkmJxCEEzZbJlckP4HoQ7fXZVrrTMaq/LSfnNxGnKKB2iommc vLJ3M0VE3OP+tHUn/rs6qg+0G/lU3VNg+il2Ll7DcyUzhiNbUGbEE0uuzlw321mC5BLZ bQnQp3Y8f5/9yUwTqwEX1Znkf8Uka5jSn8V5dEirFdA8XtW9rkzZz7zjDgyyOhn59bDS jyKA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVy7lFZue9gUdAz9Ucm4AG8zubSEtqG9+bSIV27A8UYYaqgDuCI 54cuuc7dYQpzDcB9FxV3q8qR0BUeX5oPhiz8speykPI2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz/pIyRscSmneOGptw1TWTfxXi5UyJbbnWdWqMCGvyUotK38dWHfDfPfWAXn6ct/qgGtEf7MEYvzXLV7gu5ikQ= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b0d1:: with SMTP id g17mr8441127ljl.238.1570168951314; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 23:02:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mitar Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 23:02:19 -0700 Message-ID: To: json@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Json] Extending JSON Patch (or JSON Pointer) to include indexing into a string X-BeenThere: json@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "JavaScript Object Notation \(JSON\) WG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 06:02:36 -0000 Hi! I really like JSON Patch with its simplicity, but what I am missing is that it does not allow expressing a patch to a string itself. So if you have a long string value (like a text document) and you would like to describe a patch which modifies a part of such string, currently you have to provide the whole new string, instead of just a patch to the string. So what do people think about supporting a patch (probably by simply extending JSON Pointer) to allow specifying for JSON like: {"value": "foobar"} A patch like: [ {"op": "replace", "path": "/value/0-3", "value": "no"} ] Replacing first three characters with "no' and resulting in: {"value": "nobar"} So upper limit would be exclusive. You could also specify "2-" to select all characters from the 3rd character to the end. Also, I have no experience with the IETF process on how would one go about introducing such a change to existing standards. 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Tue, 8 Oct 2019 01:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3594.4.19\)) From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 16:07:33 +1100 Cc: Mitar , "json@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "Manger, James" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3594.4.19) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Json] Extending JSON Patch (or JSON Pointer) to include indexing into a string X-BeenThere: json@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "JavaScript Object Notation \(JSON\) WG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 05:07:45 -0000 Also, we're collecting input for possible future revisions / extensions = here: https://github.com/json-patch/json-patch2/issues Please feel free to add an issue there. Cheers, > On 8 Oct 2019, at 3:35 pm, Manger, James = wrote: >=20 >> So what do people think about supporting a patch (probably by simply = extending JSON Pointer) >=20 > Tacking "/0-3" or "/2-" on the end of a JSON Pointer is a bad idea as = it looks like a legitimate JSON Pointer for an object member named "0-3" = or "2-". A better approach would be a new "op" value and a new member to = hold the range. For example: >=20 > { "op":"string_replace", "path":"/value", "range":"0-3", = "value":"no"} >=20 > Whether its best to provide a range & value, or old & new substrings, = or a regex & replacement, or a line-oriented diff format, ... I'm not = sure. >=20 >> Also, I have no experience with the IETF process on how would one go = about introducing such a change to existing standards. >=20 > Perhaps write some code to convince yourself it works well; document = it in an independent submission = (https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/) called, say, = draft-mitar-json-string-patch; and see if any IETF group is interested. >=20 > -- > James Manger > _______________________________________________ > json mailing list > json@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/json -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Thu Oct 10 14:43:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: json@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9338120059 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:43:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pOnFJJ2DrA8i for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC8DD12003E for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id w67so5513588lff.4 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:43:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jxL/mQd6wftr3FutHvqxfKhgmRFDv2i4Ap3UnQXZJDE=; b=hzmOurARqwkCH1ds0dELuN3NNXGHZSTLy+wRVO69Jy13nCE3Ihbym3ayXqhYkU9KS1 Hl1ha11g9iVeZ5vpWyNJHmcfiWXAol5tDyxm4e+D7IELYe+BQ60iAY5iEsTV6//pXa9L yi1qi7YB4TgmZHwCQ8I8YY/dWzILzypOgw1xDLmHxzfJmwkQ8w8B4lsJNG1v4Vnz50hr OzBh9jxNvWjAXTXL3gmmLx9xQP4DWXvR26H5dRaeP9vPUC6YGv4CeBI1Aq3g0EmxuEnc ZZied2fwlv5H7Qxv6LeZNE/cNG4tecV36yh0tcfwfQSSml6IygtLZ8razC0pHopwbrf/ 1gwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jxL/mQd6wftr3FutHvqxfKhgmRFDv2i4Ap3UnQXZJDE=; b=p8FHkbtujAssBmfeaHFT64n3A21xOEGUcEY5ow8fdtPgHeQHzre7w5lxV7W958F12n 0bm4lBuNUZJ/a3q3Unu2j1Hjs/SI5dXBXZr9Smz6oCe1d6Fsf/ibWte6LnY5BhsTO4a5 CrX8bZ3paSZ0osHbpMKJl3mMnI0CzBHbWtokvnB6gXi6HUJexl9xI2wGmbIZAt1dAhkb sdNiINy/1qDQhaX7z/MhYO66bx0uYg8I/rf7nswG3BK845k/6SaOa6RJp1bwxKoUcSGv 0lukLdqppd4Y+nQ1CsGOSow8+xWO+3jTrdECjgLP82PeqHfs8QipuTIUwjNE1kNJUIIV 34Yg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUW0Izh0J++H+B0UJyf9a5aK/5SWTk9NgcfK8VCH9v+YZ9YmilD JAggy3wA15olIZSujRmsV6vR1SfNaJPkCyhMqZE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzkdHu+1gZsv/PXbHQ3LHY03gUx8oydOeJqAYX5kGTYMOEKqyQASaumUdgSiG164J7OSGh3ze53WeEt2fXezvQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:597b:: with SMTP id h27mr7134665lfp.100.1570743829938; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:43:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mitar Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:43:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: "Manger, James" Cc: "json@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Json] Extending JSON Patch (or JSON Pointer) to include indexing into a string X-BeenThere: json@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "JavaScript Object Notation \(JSON\) WG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 21:43:54 -0000 Hi! Thank you for the reply. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:59 AM Manger, James wrote: > Tacking "/0-3" or "/2-" on the end of a JSON Pointer is a bad idea as it looks like a legitimate JSON Pointer for an object member named "0-3" or "2-". Sure, but that hold for regular "/0" as well, no? If there is an object at / then it is a JSON Pointer for an object member named "0". But if it is an array, it means accessing a particular element of the array. > A better approach would be a new "op" value and a new member to hold the range. That is an interesting idea as well. I will think about it. 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I opened: https://github.com/json-patch/json-patch2/issues/28 Mitar -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m