From nobody Tue Sep 4 10:33:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledger@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledger@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD44126DBF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ripple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id slwzUqN5t0pl for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x229.google.com (mail-qt0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39B39130F70 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 10:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x229.google.com with SMTP id k38-v6so4888032qtk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:33:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ripple.com; s=google; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version; bh=T65JE1X0DpbuwNgPlu5VeMHOAToTyAi6uPSwRUIc4As=; b=mzxjNAJ7McsLNvIcggSR3FdpM+9nj5AHimnW0/n5vhT2RcE/vsZvDoYzDvR0BtG0M0 faVK43KSjxP0HWAxAiGfKnnnnXUXJL+DmplsxX4mVb9l9BW3xFAkw9kzrSvqJOygES4c oV97YC5jTWcCH4A7atyCouG5ZkeHPr3D4F0JM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version; bh=T65JE1X0DpbuwNgPlu5VeMHOAToTyAi6uPSwRUIc4As=; b=XdvSxeSz1iXlHIkw2lNvtBHOm6fK73dMH4p/NzWaoLmnXZx3tmel2JeeVEB2p5EbZK Rf88gHTUb2yKBIf3uH7diYYydb1HgfuoYR7iGmvRd4dCHG75mYkAlL01sQurOnf0zG8l 98KMnuX0s7IpZzrhURTKHysD/YgUhkuWKeWl4eebougDmw7aKNGJGbg2KwZfYhHIsMuU Eeo8IrdzwQqCnt8JDNz7MbF7jxthxlKNCelja7EjDrtqKWGR8tERrBR+9BEoET0dzE2X dBXyiM59O5/6ApbDfN+JPoFCeVSorgs8zS+fC7DfxB4XaKDsOWw4J/J38aGZvXdGYIsu M8OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Az5qD3mni0BYFB3Oj3VDtHqecqIyJix13v+G2tlpNFZbEyPKjo bI5AYgkvmVIJLESK1Fyz40D2kflLPlw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYNQdbqWxOn+lP5J/oAqqmzJ7sIqmju6chYb5CvMtI11/P5vvWDN7N9QYIwLgalruo04iwKew== X-Received: by 2002:aed:3b32:: with SMTP id p47-v6mr31258225qte.13.1536082391161; Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arch ([64.245.136.99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d67-v6sm10631989qkc.90.2018.09.04.10.33.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:33:56 -0400 From: Evan Schwartz To: Interledger Community Group , Interledger Mailing List - IETF Message-ID: <1536082091.local-73d06077-7175-v1.4.2-f587b7b7@getmailspring.com> X-Mailer: Mailspring MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5b8ec204_34d99cc8_4e79" Archived-At: Subject: [Ledger] AGENDA - Interledger Call - 5 September - 3pm UTC X-BeenThere: ledger@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of interledger, originally a protocol stack for moving digital assets \(making payments\) between accounts operating on different payment networks or ledgers." 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Agenda:
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  • Up= date from Strata Labs and Kava on Ethereum and Lightning plugins
  • Discussion about retail payment solution built on ILP
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 05:03:28 -0000 --5b8f63c9_5ad46e63_229f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Here's the repo I've been using to work on the ideas for pull payments over ILP: https://github.com/emschwartz/ilp-spsp-pull-token. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the community call! On Sep 4 2018, at 1:33 pm, Evan Schwartz wrote: > > Agenda: > Launch of Coil.com subscription WebMonetization service in closed beta > > Update from Strata Labs (https://www.stratalabs.io/) and Kava (kava.io) on Ethereum and Lightning plugins > > Discussion about retail payment solution built on ILP > > Open Q&A / discussion > > > Talk to you tomorrow! > > > Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/s/377506344 (http://email.zoom.us/track/click/30854053/zoom.us?p=eyJzIjoiM0w2aVdDeVIxQS1QMWFUY2dOWDNqRF9FXzg4IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDg1NDA1MyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL3pvb20udXNcXFwvc1xcXC8zNzc1MDYzNDRcIixcImlkXCI6XCI1NzY5ZmNlY2IyMTA0YjJlOGY5NTdjZDNkMzU3MDQxMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImY3NTEyMWVkZGI2NDQ2YjA4YzI1ODAxNjdiMWQ5ODlhM2MyY2FmMTZcIl19In0) > Or iPhone one-tap: > US: +14086380968,,377506344# or +16468769923,,377506344# > > Or Telephone: > Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): > US: +1 408 638 0968 (tel:+1%20408%20638%200968) or +1 646 876 9923 (tel:+1%20646%20876%209923) or +1 669 900 6833 (tel:+1%20669%20900%206833) > Meeting ID: 377 506 344 > > International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/cbrUAzE3W (http://email.zoom.us/track/click/30854053/zoom.us?p=eyJzIjoiTkhxZ1pWcWZEbDlWZy1VaTBYTnFqX2RwcUs0IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDg1NDA1MyxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwczpcXFwvXFxcL3pvb20udXNcXFwvdVxcXC9jYnJVQXpFM1dcIixcImlkXCI6XCI1NzY5ZmNlY2IyMTA0YjJlOGY5NTdjZDNkMzU3MDQxMlwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcImY3NTEyMWVkZGI2NDQ2YjA4YzI1ODAxNjdiMWQ5ODlhM2MyY2FmMTZcIl19In0) > --5b8f63c9_5ad46e63_229f Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Here's the repo I've been using to work on the ideas for pull paymen= ts over ILP: https://github.com/emschwartz/il= p-spsp-pull-token.

Looking forward to hearing your thou= ghts on the community call=21

On Sep 4 2018, at 1:33 pm, Evan Schwartz <evan=40ripple.c= om> wrote:

Agenda:
  • La= unch of Coil.com subs= cription WebMonetization service in closed beta
  • Update= from Strata Labs and Kava on Ethereum and Lightning plugins
  • D= iscussion about retail payment solution built on ILP
  • O= pen Q&A / discussion
Talk to you tomorrow=21

Join from = PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/s/377506344
<= br>
Or iPhone one-ta= p:
    US: +14086380968,,377506344=23 or +164687= 69923,,377506344=23

Or Telephone:
   =  Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current locati= on): 
    US: <= span style=3D=22color:rgb(35, 31, 32)=22>+1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833=  
  &nbs= p; Meeting ID: 377 506 344
    Inter= national numbers available: = https://zoom.us/u/cbr= UAzE3W
--5b8f63c9_5ad46e63_229f-- From nobody Wed Sep 5 05:54:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledger@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledger@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797FA128D68 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:54:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ripple.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HVKOVVr8zBfH for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x72a.google.com (mail-qk1-x72a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E74E7120072 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 05:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x72a.google.com with SMTP id 130-v6so4738047qkd.10 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 05:54:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ripple.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bK6jfnQXFu+GfLe5CLjvcXvkI6VAQCmkT6dsQyAab14=; b=LahKAGObQRwtUaiYTk/df63vLp9cnsuOnY7LEpsskqrRiWLc/NCnYG8JKD8VZWtq1o n1PfRRorMBWuEHPjReVwy9Dwg27R/B7XMsnSEggF8POiS1ThBsGgQyx1y6WG1Y60GCF8 1t3yXXfK1nK+cUHM6/ZoljhczInJvhffFU1p0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bK6jfnQXFu+GfLe5CLjvcXvkI6VAQCmkT6dsQyAab14=; b=ca8jcPB8SBY9eytBjNueOBORRFsqyYAXOA0uvyz1TAh1eSLVcBO3tUhpITzAQoF8S4 slnIhzO7ziPztzxP0gS9b9STk1+WbmSHppyvxRI7zhSf4ijJO9IsEY4HjeSoHZf/DpCX Y0WwPaIUSUfRNywiU1V4jtOBA74A9nMfuVmU8EkRi00AMiQKnMMhAWo9GFV2XmIxf88T 1qYHUM3c2MDio5pqhfHfLoaH1hBgyr7zOl6Efn5Gui/IK3pXTNasyQgMtGhcoFHw6rIn BFj0ZXwX/Y5R9jxJ+IcJTJE/+qpoyy6/yzVb6UJNRDuXR9d3Y7mYEIUMW3kN3nsJiDCE +g0A== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51ArBzlaPjs5sgD3N2qJ9H2doQJ7jL/hULfo/oKeobPtz3wreQiE x5kqlO7AhI3v6za7uVFHgieYXop0fWoFyEQel199nw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZCBMAKUxdpQE5rtOlextm14nkx5x3dqx4FlaXUKjJVDrJO7yS4hsfSIVQhNvosA/bIj9wHIuzyWNYfGKtctHo= X-Received: by 2002:a37:c44c:: with SMTP id h12-v6mr32796729qkm.279.1536152086763; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1536082091.local-73d06077-7175-v1.4.2-f587b7b7@getmailspring.com> <1536123770.local-58f85112-31af-v1.4.2-f587b7b7@getmailspring.com> In-Reply-To: From: Evan Schwartz Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 08:54:35 -0400 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?5Lit5bGx5aSq6ZuF?= Cc: ledger@ietf.org, public-interledger@w3.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000073f2ef05751f47b7" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ledger] AGENDA - Interledger Call - 5 September - 3pm UTC X-BeenThere: ledger@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of interledger, originally a protocol stack for moving digital assets \(making payments\) between accounts operating on different payment networks or ledgers." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 12:54:52 -0000 --00000000000073f2ef05751f47b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup! The format for expressing the limitations I'm working with now let's you set an amount, a start time, a duration, and a number of repetitions. That lets you pay a certain amount per time, like for a subscription. However, if you want to make sure you only pay in exchange for the service, we would need to implement a way to update the token mid-stream (or make new connections each time) so that the customer could give tokens for successively larger amounts. Also -- this just made me realize the way I was thinking of implementing this wouldn't support updating the token with a higher amount. I was thinking that additional caveats would only let you reduce the amount (so 3rd parties can't increase it). We either need a way to cancel caveats or we'll just need to use new tokens. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:27 AM =E4=B8=AD=E5=B1=B1=E5=A4=AA=E9=9B=85 wrote: > Just an idea, there may be a use case that "unit pull payments" could > be utilized. > "unit payments" mean that two agree upon paying a certain amount a unit > time. > > e.g. > A requests 1$ / min to B > B agrees on it > B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min > B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min > B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min > B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min > B closes the connection > A stops the service > > 2018=E5=B9=B49=E6=9C=885=E6=97=A5(=E6=B0=B4) 14:05 Evan Schwartz : > > > > Here's the repo I've been using to work on the ideas for pull payments > over ILP: https://github.com/emschwartz/ilp-spsp-pull-token. > > > > Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the community call! > > > > On Sep 4 2018, at 1:33 pm, Evan Schwartz wrote: > > > > > > Agenda: > > > > Launch of Coil.com subscription WebMonetization service in closed beta > > Update from Strata Labs and Kava on Ethereum and Lightning plugins > > Discussion about retail payment solution built on ILP > > Open Q&A / discussion > > > > Talk to you tomorrow! > > > > > > Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/s/377506344 > > > > Or iPhone one-tap: > > US: +14086380968,,377506344# or +16468769923,,377506344# > > > > Or Telephone: > > Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current > location): > > US: +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833 > > Meeting ID: 377 506 344 > > International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/cbrUAzE3W > --=20 Evan Schwartz Software Engineer --00000000000073f2ef05751f47b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup! The format for expressing the limitations I'm working with now let= 's you set an amount, a start time, a duration, and a number of repetit= ions. That lets you pay a certain amount per time, like for a subscription.=

However, if you want to make sure you only pay in excha= nge for the service, we would need to implement a way to update the token m= id-stream (or make new connections each time) so that the customer could gi= ve tokens for successively larger amounts.=C2=A0

A= lso -- this just made me realize the way I was thinking of implementing thi= s wouldn't support updating the token with a higher amount. I was think= ing that additional caveats would only let you reduce the amount (so 3rd pa= rties can't increase it). We either need a way to cancel caveats or we&= #39;ll just need to use new tokens.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 8:27 AM =E4=B8=AD=E5=B1=B1=E5=A4=AA=E9=9B= =85 <taiga.nakayama@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Just an idea, ther= e may be a use case that "unit pull payments" could
be utilized.
"unit payments" mean that two agree upon paying a certain amount = a unit time.

e.g.
A requests 1$ / min to B
B agrees on it
B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min
B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min
B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min
B pays 1$ for 1min... A serves for 1 min
B closes the connection
A stops the service

2018=E5=B9=B49=E6=9C=885=E6=97=A5(=E6=B0=B4) 14:05 Evan Schwartz <evan@ripple.com>:
>
> Here's the repo I've been using to work on the ideas for pull = payments over ILP: https://github.com/emschwartz/il= p-spsp-pull-token.
>
> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the community call!
>
> On Sep 4 2018, at 1:33 pm, Evan Schwartz <evan@ripple.com> wrote:
>
>
> Agenda:
>
> Launch of Coil.com subscription WebMonetization service in closed beta=
> Update from Strata Labs and Kava on Ethereum and Lightning plugins
> Discussion about retail payment solution built on ILP
> Open Q&A / discussion
>
> Talk to you tomorrow!
>
>
> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/s/37750634= 4
>
> Or iPhone one-tap:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0US: +14086380968,,377506344# or +16468769923,,37750= 6344#
>
> Or Telephone:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on you= r current location):
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0US: +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 90= 0 6833
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Meeting ID: 377 506 344
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0International numbers available: https://zoom.us/= u/cbrUAzE3W
--

= Evan Schwartz

Software= Engineer

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Hi all,

We're due = to chat in a few hours, sorry for the late agenda.

I've had no proposed items so I'd like to walk you through some wo= rk I have been doing to try and make the ILP components a little easier to = build with.

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Would be great to get some feedback on this and discuss what&= #39;s required in the 'ilp' module to make it easy to build ILP ena= bled apps.

This may include some discussion around= an SPSP-like protocol over the data stream of a STREAM connection to excha= nge information prior to making a payment.

If we h= ave them on the call it would also be great to hear the latest on the BTC a= nd ETH plugins from the Kiva and Strata teams.

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android= :=C2=A0https:= //zoom.us/s/377506344

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