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boundary="Apple-Mail=_EF862E56-97B4-41B7-94BC-58E77110DE61" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Mahesh Jethanandani In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 21:39:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1552C5A4-ADFC-488A-AF9C-362944024851@gmail.com> References: To: Andy Bierman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: YANG Doctors , "lime@ietf.org" , Qin Wu Subject: Re: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is not index or key of the list X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 04:40:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EF862E56-97B4-41B7-94BC-58E77110DE61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Does it mean the pyang error is a bug? > On Aug 2, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Qin Wu wrote: >=20 > FYI. > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Andy Bierman [mailto:andy@yumaworks.com = ]=20 > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=8831=E6=97=A5= 22:47 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Qin Wu > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the list > =20 > Hi, > =20 > =20 > It is called leafref because it can point at any leaf. > It does not have to be a key leaf. > =20 > Andy > =20 > =20 > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Qin Wu > wrote: > Hi, Andy: > In the path statement, can we reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the list? > e.g., In draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05, the snippset of = "admin-status" is defined as follows > " > leaf admin-status { > type leafref { > path "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-status"; > } > config false; > description > "oper status from ietf-interface module"; > } > " > In the path statement, admin-status reference if:admin-status defined = in the RFC7223 which is not index or key for list interface in RFC7223? > Is this correct? >=20 > Also we have another example, here is the snippset of "oper-status" is = defined as follows in In draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05 > leaf oper-status { > type leafref { > path "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-status"; > } > config false; > description > "oper status from ietf-interface module"; > } > In the path statement for oper-status, oper-status also reference = if:oper-status which is not index of key for list interface in tRFC7223? > Is this allowed? > BTW: This is something we discussed in the bits-n-bytes. >=20 > -Qin > > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org = ] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Qin Wu > > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=881=E6=97=A5= 21:03 > > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: lime@ietf.org > > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the > > list > > > > Hi, All: > > I am not sure we can reference a leaf instance that is not index or = key of the list. When I run the following pyang command: > > We have the following warning: > > =E2=80=9C > > $ pyang -f uml ietf-gen-oam.yang -o goam.uml > > Info: Did not find leafref target > > /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-sta > > tus > > Info: Did not find leafref target > > /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-stat > > us > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 333, in > > run() > > File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 328, in run > > os.rename(tmpfile, o.outfile) > > WindowsError: [Error 183] > > =E2=80=9D > > Becos admin-status and oper-status are both not index or key in the = interface list. Also admin-status is a optional parameter defined in the = interface list. > > Comments? > > > > -Qin > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime = Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_EF862E56-97B4-41B7-94BC-58E77110DE61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Does it mean the pyang error is a bug?

On = Aug 2, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> wrote:

FYI.
=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6= =E4=BA=BA: Andy Bierman [mailto:andy@yumaworks.com] 
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6= =97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=8831=E6=97=A5 22:47
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Qin Wu
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Lime] reference a leaf = instance that is not index or key of the list
 
Hi,
 
 
It is called leafref because it can point at any leaf.
It does not have to be a key = leaf.
 
Andy
 
 
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:34 = AM, Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi, Andy:
In the path statement, = can we reference a leaf instance that is not index or key of the = list?
e.g., In draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05, the = snippset of "admin-status" is defined as follows
"
    leaf admin-status {
    =   type leafref {
        path = "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-status";
  =     }
      config false;
      description
    =     "oper status from ietf-interface module";
    }
"
In the path = statement, admin-status reference if:admin-status defined in the RFC7223 = which is not index or key for list interface in RFC7223?
Is = this correct?

Also we have another example, = here is the snippset of "oper-status" is defined as follows in In = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05
    leaf = oper-status {
      type leafref {
        path = "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-status";
  =     }
      config false;
      description
    =     "oper status from ietf-interface module";
    }
In the path statement for = oper-status, oper-status also reference if:oper-status which is not = index of key for list interface in tRFC7223?
Is this = allowed?
BTW: This is something we discussed in the = bits-n-bytes.

-Qin
> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA= =BA: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Qin Wu
> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97= =B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=881=E6=97=A5 21:03
> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4= =BA=BA: lime@ietf.org
> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is = not index or key of the
> list
>
> Hi, All:
> I am not sure we can = reference a leaf instance that is not index or key of the list. When I = run the following pyang command:
> We have the = following warning:
> =E2=80=9C
> $ = pyang -f uml ietf-gen-oam.yang -o goam.uml
> Info: Did = not find leafref target
> = /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-sta
> tus
> Info: Did not find leafref target
> = /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-stat
> us
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 333, = in <module>
>     run()
>   File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 328, = in run
>     os.rename(tmpfile, = o.outfile)
> WindowsError: [Error 183]
>= =E2=80=9D
> Becos admin-status and oper-status are = both not index or key in the interface list. Also admin-status is a = optional parameter defined in the interface list.
> = Comments?
>
> -Qin
 
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Mahesh Jethanandani
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Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 06:29:06 -0000 Qin, could you create a new pyang issue for the problem you encountered? Also = please attach (or include link to) the exact version of the module with = which it happens. https://github.com/mbj4668/pyang/issues Thanks, Lada > On 03 Aug 2015, at 06:39, Mahesh Jethanandani = wrote: >=20 > Does it mean the pyang error is a bug? >=20 >> On Aug 2, 2015, at 5:50 PM, Qin Wu wrote: >>=20 >> FYI. >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Andy Bierman [mailto:andy@yumaworks.com]=20= >> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=8831=E6=97=A5= 22:47 >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Qin Wu >> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the list >> =20 >> Hi, >> =20 >> =20 >> It is called leafref because it can point at any leaf. >> It does not have to be a key leaf. >> =20 >> Andy >> =20 >> =20 >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Qin Wu wrote: >> Hi, Andy: >> In the path statement, can we reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the list? >> e.g., In draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05, the snippset of = "admin-status" is defined as follows >> " >> leaf admin-status { >> type leafref { >> path "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-status"; >> } >> config false; >> description >> "oper status from ietf-interface module"; >> } >> " >> In the path statement, admin-status reference if:admin-status defined = in the RFC7223 which is not index or key for list interface in RFC7223? >> Is this correct? >>=20 >> Also we have another example, here is the snippset of "oper-status" = is defined as follows in In draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-05 >> leaf oper-status { >> type leafref { >> path "/if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-status"; >> } >> config false; >> description >> "oper status from ietf-interface module"; >> } >> In the path statement for oper-status, oper-status also reference = if:oper-status which is not index of key for list interface in tRFC7223? >> Is this allowed? >> BTW: This is something we discussed in the bits-n-bytes. >>=20 >> -Qin >> > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] = =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Qin Wu >> > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=881=E6=97=A5= 21:03 >> > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: lime@ietf.org >> > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Lime] reference a leaf instance that is not = index or key of the >> > list >> > >> > Hi, All: >> > I am not sure we can reference a leaf instance that is not index or = key of the list. When I run the following pyang command: >> > We have the following warning: >> > =E2=80=9C >> > $ pyang -f uml ietf-gen-oam.yang -o goam.uml >> > Info: Did not find leafref target >> > /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:admin-sta >> > tus >> > Info: Did not find leafref target >> > /if:interfaces-state/if:interface/if:oper-stat >> > us >> > Traceback (most recent call last): >> > File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 333, in >> > run() >> > File "c:/pyang-1.4.1/bin/pyang", line 328, in run >> > os.rename(tmpfile, o.outfile) >> > WindowsError: [Error 183] >> > =E2=80=9D >> > Becos admin-status and oper-status are both not index or key in the = interface list. Also admin-status is a optional parameter defined in the = interface list. >> > Comments? >> > >> > -Qin >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Lime mailing list >> Lime@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime >=20 > Mahesh Jethanandani > mjethanandani@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From nobody Wed Aug 5 22:01:14 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731601B393D; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:01:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.822 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.822 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CN_BODY_35=0.339, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c7iuWNJlyl4v; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 669251B393B; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BVY11205; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:01:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.35) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 06:01:06 +0100 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.99]) by nkgeml404-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:01:03 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06.txt Thread-Index: AQHQz/9QwK5nLqG3LUKRDdwvnB1fRJ3+ZdJg Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 05:01:02 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.180] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Cc: "lime-chairs@ietf.org" , "Deepak Kumar \(dekumar\)" Subject: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." 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This email starts a = two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as = a LIME working group item.

Please send = comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in = the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.
We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to = this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details).

*If you are listed as a document = author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

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LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model= /

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Support as= a coauthor, I am not aware of any relevant IPR.

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [mailto:lime-bou= nces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED = Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

--_000_B8F9A780D330094D99AF023C5877DABA84808387nkgeml501mbschi_-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 15:27:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D621E1A1A54 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.276 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3QMtKoM0SsmI for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 552281A038D for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wicne3 with SMTP id ne3so78657127wic.0 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U4yCGxCqeqoW503qNPqjrolRh/7LdtEAlppf1G7Ikyo=; b=bgqU9OlnEuxA+v1RItF8eHnKqT0dXnK0dHjeFjjOqcv8kA/cMhYp6FZr9K+PNcEYOi aLzfG+jcDIWyIKdu0hetgJwg0D3Wf6b/fqfDr5xiVlqW6F9+rlJ84YGjlyB2TCMP+jKm WvBjjeNOvZ+xsk2aUnpstsfjgQv+sMBAGCEtQ7he8A6Ajzgjg/avAQG1tRsS0AaNiYpY 1R81B/fFbXrZPeXa4RFkLe2M8C8qA+QC4i6i1ZSM2vgRWTaEqHcLT617MzFI/cV9/Z+5 aBv7LNI8Kh4nhotnl56V1fhiU34PYR1xrg2ncg6fEK9TpHZqGcm4KzS+IUtKla+jYPkR nbIw== X-Received: by 10.180.149.146 with SMTP id ua18mr39975420wib.86.1439332040120; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from McAsterix.local (g215085.upc-g.chello.nl. [80.57.215.85]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ll1sm20847466wic.14.2015.08.11.15.27.18 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55CA76C5.5030102@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:27:17 +0200 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:27:23 -0000
All,

I support adopting this draft as WG item.

I am not aware of any relevant IPR.

Best regards, Huub.

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LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ 



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From nobody Tue Aug 11 15:37:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543D51A1AAD for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:37:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuMQD8LT6Flu for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9316E1A1AA6 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:36:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5491; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1439332619; x=1440542219; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=UtNdPZYJ/jHT/vBSMq/VZJYMXe4Gj42HPS8uMld3Qp8=; b=L52Is1ZN0O0I3JA0UR6316JChahHV/AXGsnN2AgbW/mP+BIMdPeAXPGB CLIoG6c3TKP2DIweoofdJnUjonrKZdDkHtcDMsC5GmtDoUdRgmBOldyx6 qqNZb7Wp03ANxVGGgxYL9rbWb/hCidzWdyLuwNOEgGBoDSpqAZpI9WX94 o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AtBgDfeMpV/4UNJK1dgk5NVGkGrVqPUSoJgXaFeYFIOBQBAQEBAQEBgQqEIwECBB1cEgEIEQMBAig5FAkKBAENBYguDc8RAQEBAQEBAQECAQEBAQEBAQEBGYtRhCYRAUARhDMFlRABhQOHZoFKRoNglBsRFYN+cYEOOoEEAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.15,656,1432598400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="17759138" Received: from alln-core-11.cisco.com ([173.36.13.133]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2015 22:36:37 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-006.cisco.com (xch-rcd-006.cisco.com [173.37.102.16]) by alln-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7BMabq4005130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:36:37 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-006.cisco.com (173.37.102.16) by XCH-RCD-006.cisco.com (173.37.102.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:36:36 -0500 Received: from xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com (173.36.12.78) by xch-rcd-006.cisco.com (173.37.102.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:36:36 -0500 Received: from xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com ([169.254.7.85]) by xhc-aln-x04.cisco.com ([173.36.12.78]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:36:36 -0500 From: "Deepak Kumar (dekumar)" To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ1IYuXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVQ== Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:36:36 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.6.141106 x-originating-ip: [173.37.102.25] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1EFC6DF6E00dekumarciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:37:01 -0000 --_000_D1EFC6DF6E00dekumarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support as a coauthor, I am not aware of any relevant IPR. Thanks, Deepak From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:11 PM To: "lime@ietf.org" > Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" > Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_D1EFC6DF6E00dekumarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support as a coauthor, I am not aware of any relevant IPR.

Thanks,
Deepak

From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpign= ata)" <cpignata@cisco.com= >
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1= :11 PM
To: "lime@ietf.org" <lime@i= etf.org>
Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@to= ols.ietf.org" <draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org> Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang= -oam-model/

--_000_D1EFC6DF6E00dekumarciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Aug 11 20:18:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263931A8827 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MALFORMED_FREEMAIL=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bQrOnUxfd1LK for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com (mail-lb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693D51A8826 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbsx3 with SMTP id sx3so2329188lbb.0 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=6md8yLcmv92Uog9z0w/68PrC+hX7+12FPmSovRAFPBU=; b=UTf57kVRWcY0OBMIgrrwUcn/SGqKcjybSoc8VGdU2GiT+GDhYKvHH1vQCm9C1BL5x7 HsTsiOcnFjnEs0gBrLMlnuIL9WVexGh+fHV+m8n6dh0V76G1t/x2bEx9XsxGaTsQLlOS jgeGa5eywDrxefL9ImCE1Yht0wOW3+eWFOzWLcr8zcHs/UO6P6sjU9WchsaQLkKwtNSL wsKv2euASHZua1WmJo2pZTdjdIlr/vUURilsZ/ipBjXAWL9xCQV+Vobd5Rk6QsSajNrx Qjen5W1YXrnLl/dtZbUCmLqGKk4QUVlUOimF5C44X1QnJLwFW9An+BLJXGyGfJAxcj9N uSBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.139.131 with SMTP id qy3mt16713628lbb.4.1439349513896; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.79.105 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:18:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:18:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: andy L Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33ffa7bd7bc051d14acf4 Archived-At: Cc: "lime@ietf.org" , "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:18:37 -0000 --001a11c33ffa7bd7bc051d14acf4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The framework is neat, I support adopting this draft as WG item for further discuss. Andrew > From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:11 PM > To: "lime@ietf.org" > Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" < > draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org> > Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 > > LIME, > > This email starts a two-week poll on > adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group > item. > > Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not > (in the later case, please also state the reasons). > > This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. > > We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, > to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to > this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. > > The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each > author and contributor. > > If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly > respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in > conformance with IETF rules. > > Thank you, > > Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro > LIME co-chairs > > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime > > --001a11c33ffa7bd7bc051d14acf4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The framework is neat, I support adopting this draft as WG item for furthe= r discuss.
Andrew


From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpign= ata)" <cpig= nata@cisco.com>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1= :11 PM
To: "lime@ietf.org" <lime@ietf.org>
Cc: "draft-tissa-lime= -yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" <draft-tissa-lime-yang= -oam-model@tools.ietf.org>
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting=C2=A0draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or=C2=A0= not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this=C2=A0draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with=C2=A0IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please=C2=A0respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of=C2=A0any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received=C2=A0from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please=C2=A0explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not=C2=A0yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1]=C2=A0http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-li= me-yang-oam-model/


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LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-li= me-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send co= mments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the lat= er case, please also state the reasons).
--B_3523012183_200455-- From nobody Fri Aug 21 00:37:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DDE1A0231 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:37:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWiBUeMsoMyr for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A9501A0266 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CAF28349; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:37:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEML425-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.180) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:37:26 +0100 Received: from SZXEML501-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.113]) by szxeml425-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.180]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:36:56 +0800 From: wangzitao To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ0hZtXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4WI7GA Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:36:56 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.62] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E6BC9BBCBCACC246846FC685F9FF41EAC694A0szxeml501mbxchina_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:37:32 -0000 --_000_E6BC9BBCBCACC246846FC685F9FF41EAC694A0szxeml501mbxchina_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 U3VwcG9ydC4gQW5kIEkgYW0gbm90IGF3YXJlIGFueSByZWxldmFudCBJUFIuDQoNCi1CZXN0IFJl Z2FyZHMhDQpNaWNoYWVsDQoNCreivP7IyzogTGltZSBbbWFpbHRvOmxpbWUtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRm Lm9yZ10gtPqx7SBDYXJsb3MgUGlnbmF0YXJvIChjcGlnbmF0YSkNCreiy83KsbzkOiAyMDE1xOo4 1MI5yNUgNDoxMg0KytW8/sjLOiBsaW1lQGlldGYub3JnDQqzrcvNOiBkcmFmdC10aXNzYS1saW1l LXlhbmctb2FtLW1vZGVsQHRvb2xzLmlldGYub3JnDQrW98ziOiBbTGltZV0gQ2FsbCBmb3IgQWRv cHRpb246IGRyYWZ0LXRpc3NhLWxpbWUteWFuZy1vYW0tbW9kZWwtMDYNCg0KTElNRSwNCg0KVGhp cyBlbWFpbCBzdGFydHMgYSB0d28td2VlayBwb2xsIG9uIGFkb3B0aW5nIGRyYWZ0LXRpc3NhLWxp bWUteWFuZy1vYW0tbW9kZWwtMDYgWzFdIGFzIGEgTElNRSB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGl0ZW0uDQoN ClBsZWFzZSBzZW5kIGNvbW1lbnRzIHRvIHRoZSBsaXN0IGFuZCBzdGF0ZSBpZiB5b3Ugc3VwcG9y dCBhZG9wdGlvbiBvciBub3QgKGluIHRoZSBsYXRlciBjYXNlLCBwbGVhc2UgYWxzbyBzdGF0ZSB0 aGUgcmVhc29ucykuDQoNClRoaXMgcG9sbCBydW5zIHVudGlsICoqIEF1Z3VzdCAyNHRoLCAyMDE1 ICoqLg0KDQpXZSBhcmUgYWxzbyBwb2xsaW5nIGZvciBrbm93bGVkZ2Ugb2YgYW55IElQUiB0aGF0 IGFwcGxpZXMgdG8gdGhpcyBkcmFmdCwgdG8gZW5zdXJlIHRoYXQgSVBSIGhhcyBiZWVuIGRpc2Ns b3NlZCBpbiBjb21wbGlhbmNlIHdpdGggSUVURiBJUFIgcnVsZXMgKHNlZSBSRkNzIDM5NzksIDQ4 NzksIDM2NjkgYW5kIDUzNzggZm9yIG1vcmUgZGV0YWlscykuDQoNCipJZiB5b3UgYXJlIGxpc3Rl ZCBhcyBhIGRvY3VtZW50IGF1dGhvciBvciBjb250cmlidXRvciosIHBsZWFzZSByZXNwb25kIHRv IHRoaXMgZW1haWwgYW5kIGluZGljYXRlIHdoZXRoZXIgb3Igbm90IHlvdSBhcmUgYXdhcmUgb2Yg YW55IHJlbGV2YW50IElQUi4NCg0KVGhlIGRyYWZ0IHdpbGwgbm90IGJlIGFkb3B0ZWQgdW50aWwg YSByZXNwb25zZSBoYXMgYmVlbiByZWNlaXZlZCBmcm9tIGVhY2ggYXV0aG9yIGFuZCBjb250cmli dXRvci4NCg0KSWYgeW91IGFyZSBub3QgbGlzdGVkIGFzIGFuIGF1dGhvciBvciBjb250cmlidXRv ciwgdGhlbiBwbGVhc2UgZXhwbGljaXRseSByZXNwb25kIG9ubHkgaWYgeW91IGFyZSBhd2FyZSBv ZiBhbnkgSVBSIHRoYXQgaGFzIG5vdCB5ZXQgYmVlbiBkaXNjbG9zZWQgaW4gY29uZm9ybWFuY2Ug d2l0aCBJRVRGIHJ1bGVzLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UsDQoNClJvbiBCb25pY2EgLyBDYXJsb3MgUGln bmF0YXJvDQpMSU1FIGNvLWNoYWlycw0KDQpbMV0gaHR0cDovL2RhdGF0cmFja2VyLmlldGYub3Jn L2RvYy9kcmFmdC10aXNzYS1saW1lLXlhbmctb2FtLW1vZGVsLw0KDQo= --_000_E6BC9BBCBCACC246846FC685F9FF41EAC694A0szxeml501mbxchina_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support. A= nd I am not aware any relevant IPR.

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-Best Rega= rds!

Michael

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [mailto:lime-bou= nces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED = Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

--_000_E6BC9BBCBCACC246846FC685F9FF41EAC694A0szxeml501mbxchina_-- From nobody Fri Aug 21 03:10:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7E01A21A9 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R9a15hlfw2Wd for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F20C1A2182 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=93; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1440151847; x=1441361447; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=KA8Mrc2lDk1G/17M91MjzW1B6AQbjQ53ODCn7FF5hkQ=; b=FrVnTAXn3bj0M6fM4GGYfIKcojDXYkt2kvbnTWCImCTtnocTkagaj0Zo oskpsPjdQVbK8wwnY4KwdFsppY/+Mp4W4LQiHlJGTe691WguwWXyv9jUz ZDlhJ3hsZFldTt9OXpd92MTwptpLOmpdi9V+ZvqhWy7xlDxhfTIhTsSQY E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0C3BADm99ZV/xbLJq1dh33EOQEBAQEBAYELhEcGFUAcGgIFFgsCCwMCAQIBWAgBAYgqqSmPY5YYLIEiijGFKIJSgUMBBJUsjG+IcZFOJoN+PYJ/AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,721,1432598400"; d="scan'208";a="606494541" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2015 10:10:45 +0000 Received: from [10.63.23.86] (dhcp-ensft1-uk-vla370-10-63-23-86.cisco.com [10.63.23.86]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t7LAAjXq010801 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:10:45 GMT To: Lime@ietf.org From: Robert Wilton Message-ID: <55D6F924.1040008@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:10:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:10:48 -0000 I support adoption of draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 as a LIME WG item. Thanks, Rob From nobody Fri Aug 21 03:24:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D61A6F7B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tYbjE097JV1z for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ignavia.lancs.ac.uk (ignavia.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.25.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1181A6F3A for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 03:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by ignavia.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSjUP-0001TG-2g for Lime@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:24:01 +0100 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:24:00 +0100 From: "King, Daniel" To: "Lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ2/mknsClgLmoEEKT8suVhUaJrZ4WPw7Q Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:59 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A3246BF76@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> References: <55D6F924.1040008@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <55D6F924.1040008@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [213.205.251.93] x-iss-local-domain: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:24:06 -0000 Hi All,=20 +1 Support for draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06.=20 BR, Dan.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Wilton Sent: 21 August 2015 11:11 To: Lime@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 I support adoption of draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 as a LIME WG item. Thanks, Rob _______________________________________________ Lime mailing list Lime@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime From nobody Fri Aug 21 09:32:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BEC1AC3F2 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2yG7yiEvV4Ya for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F1911AC3ED for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-f79ef6d000007f54-ca-55d6f5412c7b Received: from EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.84]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B3.0D.32596.145F6D55; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:54:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.84]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:32:54 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ0hZtXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4WtZRw Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:32:54 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6Beusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpgkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonRNfx67VQg5ZGA4tP73awWNy6cpPF omPbdiYHZo8pvzeyeixZ8pPJ48vlz2wBzFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGW3r/rIWTE+q+D97GmsD 447QLkZODgkBE4meS8fZIWwxiQv31rOB2EICRxkluhfVQNjLGSVen/cFsdkEjCRebOwBqxcR iJQ4O/sRK4jNLJAusf/2fKBeDg5hASeJaT81IUqcJb5s+8cCYRtJnF3/FaycRUBV4tCGeWBx XgFfiY/75jFCrLKRaHo7gwnE5hSwleh9c5MZxGYEOu37qTVMEKvEJW49mc8EcbKAxJI955kh bFGJl4//sULYihL7+qezQ9TnSxybvJIZYpegxMmZT1gmMIrOQjJqFpKyWUjKIOI6Egt2f2KD sLUlli18zQxjnznwmAlZfAEj+ypGjtLi1LLcdCODTYzAKDsmwaa7g3HPS8tDjAIcjEo8vAtE r4UKsSaWFVfmHmKU5mBREud1jMoLFRJITyxJzU5NLUgtii8qzUktPsTIxMEp1cBYF7Dr1C6/ 6+1mZVcN9Aut1jAxpcv5brz9arX6Ws0nubfc91x9kxAT8sEt+GLhzjtrZkpslgly27Mixqh4 SWRM2CnZ/zq3LgffcDHQfLaF1W/JK17mjGk5fjpvJCeHzRMwaTrRs0STZw3bjTUnF5fvkZ62 oOPJKeHbMXfOFavbTO9JY2Au1y1QYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAiJSEgJMCAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:32:58 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6Beusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not support adoption of this document as WG item. I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Ind= ependent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed is comm= on among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and= TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG= item is premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated tha= t yet as you can see from the attached comments to the Applicability of th= e draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple more generic notes: * Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management a= nd Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does n= ot include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but perhaps On-dem= and Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. ping and tracerout= e, Common YANG model; * section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the propos= ed OAM YANG data model; * IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; * Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for som= e technologies, e.g. Ethernet; * often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3. Regards, Greg From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cp= ignata) Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM To: lime@ietf.org Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6Beusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I do not support adoption= of this document as WG item.

 <= /p>

I believe that until Appl= icability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Independent OAM Management d= emonstrates that the proposed model indeed is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and TRILL, = beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG item is= premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as= you can see from the attached comments to the  Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and coup= le more generic notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Manageme= nt and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OA= M but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e= . ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the proposed O= AM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being s= eparated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Moni= toring arbitrary being left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. E= thernet;
  • often Service OAM being presented = as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

Regards,

        Greg

 <= /p>

From: Lime [ma= ilto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

--_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6Beusaamb103erics_-- From nobody Sat Aug 22 19:43:24 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D541A8BBD for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ruyqKOw8v4k for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0942A1A8BB7 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iodv127 with SMTP id v127so117054592iod.3 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CgfQF8uLuNwSYb8NvOke/VUtKYaqm+/v6vtrsyfMswU=; b=GhsylEoNBO1BojCR2VXV2dvTCvs9OvLEIRZ1In302+DxUC+LYxwZd6+HqAJWzz1/Ia r7cj2YG5Ucj0G2HqQ7AELqNilvxY+crfRWb3ivscCCf6uOZNiQN/sOlYkrwEIpZOv572 W4wRBcI2NXUYAntCRGKryT7nkdp6J1xqnAYa3uf278CqfrgJsnL1WLnfPVxfI0CDoOQA OgcUq7dwMlJE5Y4MynrG6N/Hxi59M7ydSIlS13rBDKSfT6+mlUO4RJMxuPraoNAVFNkA 6AeXdcsGhOmR/JPbwQNK3DukLo5AEoBUWIYEqM0IbdTzX3eVZs9KOL8bWTYB1BssxhJY QYnA== X-Received: by 10.107.155.20 with SMTP id d20mr13836882ioe.54.1440297800425; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (CPEbc4dfba74ed1-CMbc4dfba74ed0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.241.125.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h33sm9907855iod.23.2015.08.22.19.43.19 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:43:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Gregory Mirsky , "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> From: Tom Taylor Message-ID: <55D93347.6040303@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 22:43:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:43:23 -0000 For the record, I support adoption of this document as a WG draft. There are changes I want to see in it, but these can come about through ordinary WG process. This is a first call, not a last call. As to the points Greg puts forward below, I think his subtext is that if there is inconsistency between the LIME model and the work done in the MPLS WG, it is the LIME model that has to change. Obviously there is room for negotiation, but I believe the LIME charter gives LIME the priority here. Tom Taylor On 21/08/2015 12:32 PM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > I do not support adoption of this document as WG item. > > I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer > Independent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed > is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, > MPLS-TP, and TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting > this draft as WG item is premature. And the applicability document has > not demonstrated that yet as you can see from the attached comments to > the Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple > more generic notes: > > * Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management > and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the > document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as > OAM but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity > Verification, i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model; > * section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the > proposed OAM YANG data model; > * IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; > * Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for > some technologies, e.g. Ethernet; > * often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3. > > Regards, > > Greg > > *From:*Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Carlos > Pignataro (cpignata) > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM > *To:* lime@ietf.org > *Cc:* draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org > *Subject:* [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 > > LIME, > > > This email starts a two-week poll on > adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group > item. > > Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption > or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). > > This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. > > We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, > to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond > to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. > > The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from > each author and contributor. > > If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then > please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has > not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thank you, > > Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro > LIME co-chairs > > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime > From nobody Mon Aug 24 01:40:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2375F1A914C for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7XUyt_HL9Y0Y for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com (mail-la0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B1CE1A914D for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by labia3 with SMTP id ia3so8307920lab.3 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eRpu2VB1Hpwb7c1AGZ4nrLQnnel9SatJOKF+Tlb0J6w=; b=Nb67HMGWe5uBZG1ch3QiRSFZz55LWDw3dO6UrPr+cdt4uVy/FTncfT6owe7njH94Kc Px9KBX3ULOmgNgBRnI77l7cUodddLWzJLtF8/zZp+UBc+tKJ1Tr6c/g5WMhZNBYldeOf cvYkB0U1Xmde7zoHiQfktDUyViG9Y291P/3abdJGAk32O7jhRxPKIx3z/oxX46vl8LZs CDV1lJZdsD9gwTJp2O8V+90h59jv8pTMnQojH4PeRIPCA7Imixgsdmj3ggbTSU33Zke6 YQVtp1nYCyel71aAAWVSQT1vI8CDvKIUkr4R2QmBPonZCxYd7JY996yqoJdf6V/oE2ua jfcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.204.162 with SMTP id kz2mr19297540lbc.115.1440405642637; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.82.81 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:40:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:40:42 +0800 Message-ID: From: Dapeng Liu To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3d08ca97672051e0a9265 Archived-At: Cc: "lime@ietf.org" , "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:40:46 -0000 --001a11c3d08ca97672051e0a9265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 support Dapeng Liu 2015-08-09 4:11 GMT+08:00 Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) : > LIME, > > This email starts a two-week poll on > adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group > item. > > Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not > (in the later case, please also state the reasons). > > This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. > > We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, > to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to > this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. > > The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each > author and contributor. > > If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly > respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in > conformance with IETF rules. > > Thank you, > > Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro > LIME co-chairs > > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime > > -- ------ Best Regards, Dapeng Liu --001a11c3d08ca97672051e0a9265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1 support

Dapeng Liu

2015-08-09 4:11 GMT+08:= 00 Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) <cpignata@cisco.com>:
LIME,
<= br>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting=C2=A0draft-tissa-lime-yang= -oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments= to the list and state if you support adoption or=C2=A0not (in the later ca= se, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 2= 4th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that appl= ies to this=C2=A0draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance= with=C2=A0IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more deta= ils).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, pleas= e=C2=A0respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of= =C2=A0any relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a respon= se has been received=C2=A0from each author and contributor.

If you a= re not listed as an author or contributor, then please=C2=A0explicitly resp= ond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not=C2=A0yet been disclosed i= n conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos= Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1]=C2=A0http://dat= atracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/


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--001a11c3d08ca97672051e0a9265-- From nobody Mon Aug 24 03:20:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8C81B32DB for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:20:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZR6HIkRAOcP for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D96A71B3264 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.239.2.42]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 39CF2D567DDA3; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:20:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712wxchhub03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.74]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t7OAK1BL012555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:20:08 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.3.123]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:20:03 +0200 From: "LEVRAU, LIEVEN (LIEVEN)" To: Gregory Mirsky , "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ3lZwXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVQ== Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:20:02 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.41] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D200BC681AFBA0lievenlevraualcatellucentcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:20:17 -0000 --_000_D200BC681AFBA0lievenlevraualcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 ./ Lieven From: Lime > on behalf = of Gregory Mirsky > Date: Friday 21 August 2015 18:32 To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" >, "lime@ietf.org" > Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 I do not support adoption of this document as WG item. I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Ind= ependent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed is comm= on among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and= TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG= item is premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated tha= t yet as you can see from the attached comments to the Applicability of th= e draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple more generic notes: * Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management a= nd Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does n= ot include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but perhaps On-dem= and Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. ping and tracerout= e, Common YANG model; * section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the propos= ed OAM YANG data model; * IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; * Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for som= e technologies, e.g. Ethernet; * often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3. Regards, Greg From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cp= ignata) Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM To: lime@ietf.org Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_D200BC681AFBA0lievenlevraualcatellucentcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <980045A10472B64A95D107678AF77DA2@exchange.lucent.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1
./
Lieven

From: Lime <lime-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gregory Mir= sky <gregory.mirsky@erics= son.com>
Date: Friday 21 August 2015 18:32 To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignat= a)" <cpignata@cisco.com&g= t;, "lime@ietf.org" <lime@ietf.org>
Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@to= ols.ietf.org" <draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adopti= on: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

I do not support adoption of this d= ocument as WG item.

 

I believe that until Applicability = of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Independent OAM Management demonstrate= s that the proposed model indeed is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP= , and TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft = as WG item is premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrate= d that yet as you can see from the attached comments to the  Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-= oam-model and couple more generic notes:

  • Operations,= Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management and Performance Mo= nitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OA= M but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e= . ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • section 4 is more a= bout general YANG extensibility than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Perf= ormance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for some technolo= gies, e.g. Ethernet;
  • often Service OAM being presented as Transp= ort OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.

 

 

Regards= ,

 &= nbsp;      Greg

 

From: Lime [mai= lto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

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Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:36 -0500 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (173.37.183.75) by xch-rcd-003.cisco.com (173.37.102.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:36 -0500 Received: from xmb-aln-x13.cisco.com ([169.254.15.234]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:36 -0500 From: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" To: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ1IYuXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4bP32A Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:53:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.2.130206 x-originating-ip: [173.36.7.28] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D2008BCD594B4ssalamciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:10:25 -0700 Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:53:40 -0000 --_000_D2008BCD594B4ssalamciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support as co-author. I am not aware of any IPR that hasn't been already disclosed. Regards, Samer From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1:11 PM To: "lime@ietf.org" > Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" > Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_D2008BCD594B4ssalamciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7E7740369CEA1047928A2DF5F62C4B4C@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support as co-author.
I am not aware of any IPR that hasn't been already disclosed.

Regards,
Samer

From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpign= ata)" <cpignata@cisco.com= >
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 1= :11 PM
To: "lime@ietf.org" <lime@i= etf.org>
Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@to= ols.ietf.org" <draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org> Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang= -oam-model/

--_000_D2008BCD594B4ssalamciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Aug 24 16:00:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0634F1A89FB for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G_kiSS6dnKpl for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgwym01.jp.fujitsu.com (mgwym01.jp.fujitsu.com [211.128.242.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2601B3237 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yt-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (unknown [192.168.229.67]) by mgwym01.jp.fujitsu.com with smtp id 0590_6f4e_ea5c6cf2_3c0e_462d_8688_d0912a12dfbc; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:59:57 +0900 Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by yt-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57238AC047A for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:59:56 +0900 (JST) X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v2.3.2 X-SHieldMailCheckerPolicyVersion: FJ-ISEC-20140924-1 X-SHieldMailCheckerMailID: 6a34527073e1450f99d14335f7204203 Message-ID: <55DBA1FC.6050501@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:00:12 +0900 From: Yuji Tochio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lime@ietf.org References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080206080603030404030506" X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:00:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080206080603030404030506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Support. But I also concur with Greg's concern and I would like to ask WG to solve the concern as well as the comment I sent to this list. Thanks, Yuji On 2015/08/09 5:11, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote: > LIME, > > This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. > > Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). > > This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. > > We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs > 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. > > The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in > conformance with IETF rules. > > Thank you, > > Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro > LIME co-chairs > > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime --------------080206080603030404030506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,

Support.
But I also concur with Greg's concern and I would like to ask WG to solve the concern as well as the comment I sent to this list.

Thanks, Yuji



On 2015/08/09 5:11, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) wrote:
LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ 



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--------------080206080603030404030506-- From nobody Mon Aug 24 16:19:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2601B2B82 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:19:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VnUTXRcjJxSz for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 261DB1B2B0A for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.5.2.66]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 593EB9F9CDA6A; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:19:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70uwxchhub01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.48]) by us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t7ONJSl9026410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:19:28 GMT Received: from US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.9.242]) by US70UWXCHHUB01.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.48]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:19:28 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: Gregory Mirsky , "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ0hZtXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4WtZRwgAUszsA= Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:19:28 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.16] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9US70UWXCHMBA03z_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:19:36 -0000 --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9US70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I concur with Greg's concerns. Best regards, Eve From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Mirsky Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:33 PM To: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); lime@ietf.org Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 I do not support adoption of this document as WG item. I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Ind= ependent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed is comm= on among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and= TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG= item is premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated tha= t yet as you can see from the attached comments to the Applicability of th= e draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple more generic notes: * Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management a= nd Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does n= ot include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but perhaps On-dem= and Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. ping and tracerout= e, Common YANG model; * section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the propos= ed OAM YANG data model; * IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; * Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for som= e technologies, e.g. Ethernet; * often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3. Regards, Greg From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cp= ignata) Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM To: lime@ietf.org Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9US70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I concur with Greg’= s concerns.

 <= /p>

Best regards,<= /span>

Eve

 <= /p>

From: Lime [ma= ilto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Mirsky
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06

 

I do not support adoption= of this document as WG item.

 <= /p>

I believe that until Appl= icability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Independent OAM Management d= emonstrates that the proposed model indeed is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and TRILL, = beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG item is= premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as= you can see from the attached comments to the  Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and coup= le more generic notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Manageme= nt and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OA= M but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e= . ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the proposed O= AM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being s= eparated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Moni= toring arbitrary being left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. E= thernet;
  • often Service OAM being presented = as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

Regards,

        Greg

 <= /p>

From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

--_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9US70UWXCHMBA03z_-- From nobody Mon Aug 24 17:40:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B221ACDF1; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N6najIYRUM3X; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D2D91ACDDE; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdrh1 with SMTP id h1so60482428pdr.0; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=zN4pKf6EeKayAOiUD7CSZgjmBMFbDUCF58xRKjPEz3Q=; b=HHDVoobsuTT4uStZMe9pzZM0PUwXg5DdOhdRTUa6Z29+ka8dDVj+Mp+WkxC+CKhi5j /1g5JvXl9PVobuX/Y+t8pHphCNFPb8F3zSmxU4hKm8spiXMUsja3+swIW/RPHSLEOrS9 Wa9/9NgHKOhoP7nl4G5NmMUz+a3wDJrcgPmk8qcVl4v2NgDswvR5R0x52fAO52zg5Cja /IFkPRLIXswjZdezx0xRM8aJLBJkl/HdeFQCemZ/IHuQkDC9KS4f0eF+hL+NDIJSVkgz MWat8ANacBs/b+M7DpCfPKSTXefZlQeHoa5uom5cUt5QI3UviFPW3rph5Iqif1w395Zj Ispw== X-Received: by 10.70.13.37 with SMTP id e5mr50628653pdc.107.1440463236974; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:420:302:1330:205f:6849:b753:4a7b? ([2001:420:302:1330:205f:6849:b753:4a7b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d13sm18710783pbu.51.2015.08.24.17.40.35 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A144A418-A2BE-4B25-BE7F-AA17B9805ECD" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Mahesh Jethanandani In-Reply-To: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:41:50 -0700 Message-Id: <15590A0D-BAF7-4E42-826F-6C5C13258595@gmail.com> References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: Gregory Mirsky , "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" , rtg-bfd@ietf.org, "lime@ietf.org" , "draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:40:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A144A418-A2BE-4B25-BE7F-AA17B9805ECD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Agree with Greg. I have particular concern about this statement in the draft: All implementations that follow the YANG framework presented in this document MUST implement the generic YANG model presented here. This seems to stipulate a requirement that neither YANG as a language = nor any existing technology requires, except maybe CFM itself. Where is = this stipulation coming from and why is it a MUST? > On Aug 24, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Varma, Eve L (Eve) = wrote: >=20 > I concur with Greg=E2=80=99s concerns. > =20 > Best regards, > Eve > =20 > From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Gregory Mirsky > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:33 PM > To: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); lime@ietf.org > Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org = > Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 > =20 > I do not support adoption of this document as WG item. > =20 > I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for = layer Independent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model = indeed is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, = IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms = adopting this draft as WG item is premature. And the applicability = document has not demonstrated that yet as you can see from the attached = comments to the Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model = and couple more generic notes: > Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management = and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document = does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but = perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. = ping and traceroute, Common YANG model; > section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the = proposed OAM YANG data model; > IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; > Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for some = technologies, e.g. Ethernet; > often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3. > =20 > =20 > Regards, > Greg > =20 > From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM > To: lime@ietf.org > Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org = > Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 > =20 > LIME, >=20 > This email starts a two-week poll on adopting = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. >=20 > Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons). >=20 > This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. >=20 > We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this = draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR = rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please = respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any = relevant IPR. >=20 > The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please = explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet = been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro > LIME co-chairs >=20 > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ = > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime = Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_A144A418-A2BE-4B25-BE7F-AA17B9805ECD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Agree with Greg.

I have particular concern about this statement in the = draft:

All =
implementations that follow the YANG framework presented in this
   document MUST implement the generic YANG model presented =
here.

This = seems to stipulate a requirement that neither YANG as a language nor any = existing technology requires, except maybe CFM itself. Where is this = stipulation coming from and why is it a MUST?

On Aug 24, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Varma, Eve L (Eve) <eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

I concur with Greg=E2=80=99s concerns.
 
Best regards,
Eve
 
From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Gregory = Mirsky
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 = 12:33 PM
To: Carlos Pignataro = (cpignata); lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for = Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06
 
I do not support = adoption of this document as WG item.
 
I believe that until = Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Independent OAM = Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed is common among = OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and = TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as = WG item is premature. And the applicability document has not = demonstrated that yet as you can see from the attached comments to the =  Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple = more generic notes:
  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault = Management and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the = document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM = but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, = i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • section 4 is more about = general YANG extensibility than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being = separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope = for some technologies, e.g. Ethernet;
    • often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. = VPLS, NVO3.
 
 
Regards,
        Greg
 
From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Carlos = Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 = 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: = draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06
 
LIME,

This email starts a = two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as = a LIME working group item.

Please send = comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in = the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.
We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to = this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details).

*If you are listed as a document = author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been = received from each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then = please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has = not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron = Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model= /
 
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:10:18 -0000 It comes from making the making the draft Standards Track. If you claim to implement the ultimate RFC, this is a logical consequence, just as for any other Standards Track RFC. Tom Taylor On 24/08/2015 8:41 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Agree with Greg. > > I have particular concern about this statement in the draft: > > All implementations that follow the YANG framework presented in this > document MUST implement the generic YANG model presented here. > > > This seems to stipulate a requirement that neither YANG as a language > nor any existing technology requires, except maybe CFM itself. Where is > this stipulation coming from and why is it a MUST? > From nobody Mon Aug 24 19:18:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A744F1A9063 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vx7_e_oVflRA for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D57A1A8A77 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BWS27072; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 02:18:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.34) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 03:18:24 +0100 Received: from NKGEML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.207]) by nkgeml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:18:17 +0800 From: "Zhuangyan (Yan)" To: Gregory Mirsky , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ0hZtXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4WtZRwgAVaeeA= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 02:18:16 +0000 Message-ID: <9B4BC45FDEDDD84F813E9E4A5BAF8785865E0E55@nkgeml503-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.135.170.230] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9B4BC45FDEDDD84F813E9E4A5BAF8785865E0E55nkgeml503mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 02:18:31 -0000 --_000_9B4BC45FDEDDD84F813E9E4A5BAF8785865E0E55nkgeml503mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg and all, "And the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as you can se= e from the attached comments and couple more generic notes: * Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management a= nd Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does n= ot include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but perhaps On-dem= and Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. ping and tracerout= e, Common YANG model; * section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the propos= ed OAM YANG data model; * IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM; * Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for som= e technologies, e.g. Ethernet; * often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3." [Yan] Thanks for your general comments and input on Applicability document = (the relevant draft is draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability), we = are happy to address these in the update of applicability document. Other's contribution to applicability document are also welcome. Regards, Greg From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cp= ignata) Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM To: lime@ietf.org Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **. We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to= ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see = RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). *If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to = this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each = author and contributor. If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly r= espond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in = conformance with IETF rules. Thank you, Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro LIME co-chairs [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/ --_000_9B4BC45FDEDDD84F813E9E4A5BAF8785865E0E55nkgeml503mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Greg an= d all,

 = ;

“And the applicability documen= t has not demonstrated that yet as you can see from the attached comments and couple more generic= notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address= Fault Management and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refe= r to is as OAM but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Veri= fication, i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • <= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&quo= t;,"sans-serif"">section 4 is more about general YANG extensibili= ty than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Monitoring arbitrary be= ing left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. Ethernet;=
  • often Service OAM being presented as T= ransport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.”

 = ;

[Yan] Thanks for your general comments and input on Applicab= ility document (the relevant draft is draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-appl= icability), we are happy to address these in the update of applicability document.

Other's contribution to applicability document are also welc= ome.=

 = ;

Regards,

        Greg

 = ;

From: Lime [mailto= :lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

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All,

After reading other comments, I thoroughly re-read the draft and
now I agree with Greg about the status of the draft.

Best regards, Huub.
============

Greg wrote:

I do not support adoption of this document as WG item.

 

I believe that until Applicability of Generic YANG Data Model for layer Independent OAM Management demonstrates that the proposed model indeed is common among OAM technologies developed at IETF, e.g. IP, IP/MPLS, MPLS-TP, and TRILL, beyond just YANG customization mechanisms adopting this draft as WG item is premature. And the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as you can see from the attached comments to the  Applicability of the draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model and couple more generic notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address Fault Management and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refer to is as OAM but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Verification, i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • section 4 is more about general YANG extensibility than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Monitoring arbitrary being left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. Ethernet;
  • often Service OAM being presented as Transport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.

 

 

Regards,

        Greg

 

From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/

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Hi, All:

Do we poll= for adoption on draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06? Do we poll for adoptio= n on draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability?

I became a= little confused by  this call now.

As LIME ch= arter said:

=A1=B0

Goals and = Milestones:

  Feb= 2015 - Adopt the WG draft on YANG data model(s)

  Aug= 2015 - Adopt the WG draft for Applicability of the generic model

=A1=B1

LIME YANG = model should be developed before Applicability document work item based on = Charter said. The key reason for this order is without knowing what LIME base model look like, how do we know how to apply LIME YANG mode= l to various technologies.

 = ;

LIME YANG = model and Applicability document are completely two separated two work item= s.

draft-zhua= ng-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability was just called out just before Prague= meeting to show an example on what Applicability document looks like when Chairs called for progress on Applicability document befor= e IETF93. In Prague, draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability was pre= sented and got a lot of discussion, the most of important goal of discussin= g draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability is to seek the opinion on the scope of LIME applicability rather than cont= ents of LIME Applicability document.

 = ;

Yes, LIME = Applicability document is not perfect since it is just a infant and hasn=A1= =AFt grown up, please be patient and give it some time,e.g., section 4 needs to be rewritten to focus on how to extend base model to support di= fferent OAM technologies, we can discuss this,

Yes, IP/MP= LS OAM needs to be separated from MPLS-TP OAM in the Applicability draft.

Yes, Fault= Management and Performance monitoring are two important aspects,  Eth= ernet section need to cover performance measurement based on Y.1731 in the Applicability draft. in Prague meeting, we discussed both  Fau= lt management and performance monitoring separately in one joint session, b= ut our proposal is not to separate performance monitoring from LIME base mo= del, we just leave it in the separate draft for now and we can put it back if the WG has consensus. So all of th= ese are something we can be fixed in the applicability document. It is usef= ul input to shape the scope of Applicability document not LIME base model.<= o:p>

 = ;

-Qin<= /o:p>

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [m= ailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Zhuangyan (Yan)
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2015=C4=EA8=D4=C225=C8=D5 10:18
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Gregory Mirsky; lime@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

Hi Greg an= d all,

 = ;

=A1=B0And = the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as you can see fro= m the attached comments and couple more generic notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address= Fault Management and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refe= r to is as OAM but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Veri= fication, i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • <= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&quo= t;,"sans-serif"">section 4 is more about general YANG extensibili= ty than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Monitoring arbitrary be= ing left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. Ethernet;=
  • often Service OAM being presented as T= ransport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.=A1=B1

 = ;

[Yan] Thanks for your general comments and input on Applicability do= cument (the relevant draft is draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicabilit= y), we are happy to address these in the update of applicability document.

Other's contribution to applicability document are also welcome.

 = ;

Regards,

        Greg

 = ;

From: Lime [mailto= :lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

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BTW: Forge= t to mention, just a little background, draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model is = the replacement of draft-tissa-netmod-oam-00, which was created earlier before LIME WG was formed.

draft-tiss= a-lime-yang-oam-model has been around more than 4 or 5 IETF meetings and go= t a lot of discussions on the lists regarding open issues and received sufficient reviews from WG chairs, YANG doctors, IETF partici= pants. In the recent IETF Prague meeting, we made a good progress and discu= ssed and resolved most of main open issues, So that=A1=AF why we are ready = to go. We are not saying we are perfect now, but we need to follow WG process.

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [m= ailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Qin Wu
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=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhuangyan (Yan); Gregory Mirsky; lime@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

Hi, All:

Do we poll= for adoption on draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06? Do we poll for adoptio= n on draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability?

I became a= little confused by  this call now.

As LIME ch= arter said:

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Goals and = Milestones:

  Feb= 2015 - Adopt the WG draft on YANG data model(s)

  Aug= 2015 - Adopt the WG draft for Applicability of the generic model

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LIME YANG = model should be developed before Applicability document work item based on = Charter said. The key reason for this order is without knowing what LIME base model look like, how do we know how to apply LIME YANG mode= l to various technologies.

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LIME YANG = model and Applicability document are completely two separated two work item= s.

draft-zhua= ng-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability was just called out just before Prague= meeting to show an example on what Applicability document looks like when Chairs called for progress on Applicability document befor= e IETF93. In Prague, draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability was pre= sented and got a lot of discussion, the most of important goal of discussin= g draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicability is to seek the opinion on the scope of LIME applicability rather than cont= ents of LIME Applicability document.

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Yes, LIME = Applicability document is not perfect since it is just a infant and hasn=A1= =AFt grown up, please be patient and give it some time,e.g., section 4 needs to be rewritten to focus on how to extend base model to support di= fferent OAM technologies, we can discuss this,

Yes, IP/MP= LS OAM needs to be separated from MPLS-TP OAM in the Applicability draft.

Yes, Fault= Management and Performance monitoring are two important aspects,  Eth= ernet section need to cover performance measurement based on Y.1731 in the Applicability draft. in Prague meeting, we discussed both  Fau= lt management and performance monitoring separately in one joint session, b= ut our proposal is not to separate performance monitoring from LIME base mo= del, we just leave it in the separate draft for now and we can put it back if the WG has consensus. So all of th= ese are something we can be fixed in the applicability document. They are useful input to shape the scope of Applica= bility document not LIME base model.

 = ;

-Qin<= /o:p>

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Lime [<= a href=3D"mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Zhuangyan (Yan)
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2015=C4=EA8=D4=C225=C8=D5 10:18
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Gregory Mirsky; lime@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

 

Hi Greg an= d all,

 = ;

=A1=B0And = the applicability document has not demonstrated that yet as you can see fro= m the attached comments and couple more generic notes:

  • Operations, Administration and Maintenance address= Fault Management and Performance Monitoring of the FCAPS. If the scope of the document does not include both then I suggest not to refe= r to is as OAM but perhaps On-demand Continuity Check and Connectivity Veri= fication, i.e. ping and traceroute, Common YANG model;
  • <= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&quo= t;,"sans-serif"">section 4 is more about general YANG extensibili= ty than of the proposed OAM YANG data model;
  • IP/MPLS OAM not being separated from MPLS-TP OAM;
  • Performance Monitoring arbitrary be= ing left outside the scope for some technologies, e.g. Ethernet;=
  • often Service OAM being presented as T= ransport OAM, e.g. VPLS, NVO3.=A1=B1

 = ;

[Yan] Thanks for your general comments and input on Applicability do= cument (the relevant draft is draft-zhuang-lime-yang-oam-model-applicabilit= y), we are happy to address these in the update of applicability document.

Other's contribution to applicability document are also welcome.

 = ;

Regards,

        Greg

 = ;

From: Lime [mailto= :lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:12 PM
To: lime@ietf.org
Cc: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-0= 6

 

LIME,


This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until ** August 24th, 2015 **.

We are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draf= t, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR r= ules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

*If you are listed as a document author or contributor*, please respon= d to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relev= ant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from = each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explici= tly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been dis= closed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Ron Bonica / Carlos Pignataro
LIME co-chairs

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model/=

 

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Where = is >> this stipulation coming from and why is it a MUST? >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com From nobody Wed Aug 26 18:56:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1801B384D; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:56:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ukAPb7X1NLvF; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 181A51B3847; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CAL73834; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 01:56:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.32) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 02:56:25 +0100 Received: from NKGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.99]) by nkgeml401-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:56:21 +0800 From: Qin Wu To: Mahesh Jethanandani , Tom Taylor Thread-Topic: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Thread-Index: AQHQ0hZtXgg3DXSRsEGgq7M9c/wmVZ4WtZRwgAUszsD//5D9AIAAB+8AgALhywCAANBnoA== Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 01:56:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8E812CBB-1058-40C0-815F-CF8C008F0582@cisco.com> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112218ABD6B@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEB9DDB9@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> <15590A0D-BAF7-4E42-826F-6C5C13258595@gmail.com> <55DBC076.9010701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.180] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Cc: "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" , "lime@ietf.org" , Ladislav Lhotka Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." 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AQHQ29rOrdEghdQrj0K6EfDBg03yn54aXwsAgAABG4CAAvW+gIAAK+yAgAJOsgA= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:29:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 x-originating-ip: [173.37.102.16] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D2046CA8E416Fdekumarciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Samer Salam \(ssalam\)" , "lime@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:30:59 -0000 --_000_D2046CA8E416Fdekumarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adding Mailing list. From: Tissa Senevirathne > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM To: "Norman Finn (nfinn)" > Cc: dekumar >, Samer Salam > Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 support adoption and there are no IPR that I am aware of. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Norman Finn (nfinn) > wrote: Support for adoption. =97 Norm From: "Deepak Kumar (dekumar)" = > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 20:26 PM To: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" >, Tis= sa Senevirathne >, Norman Fin= n > Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Fixing Norman email id. Thanks, Deepak Hi Samer/Norman/Tissa, Please support adoption for LIME draft and mention if there are any IPR. Thanks, Deepak From: Lime > on behalf = of Dacheng Zhang > Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:29 PM To: "lime@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adoption: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06 Support the adoption. Cheers Dacheng =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D LIME, This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-mod= el-06 [1] as a LIME working group item. Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or not (= in the later case, please also state the reasons). --_000_D2046CA8E416Fdekumarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Adding Mailing list.

From: Tissa Senevirathne <tsenevir@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 1= :15 PM
To: "Norman Finn (nfinn)"= <nfinn@cisco.com>
Cc: dekumar <dekumar@cisco.com>, Samer Salam <ssalam@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adopti= on: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

support adoption and there are no IPR that I am aware of.<= /div>

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Norman Finn (n= finn) <nfinn@cisco.com> wrote:
Support for adoption.

=97 Norm

From: "Deepak Kumar (dekumar)&= quot; <dekumar@ci= sco.com>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 20= :26 PM
To: "Samer Salam (ssalam)"= ; <ssalam@cisco.co= m>, Tissa Senevirathne <tsenevir@gmail.com>, Norman Finn <nfinn@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adopti= on: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

Fixing Norman email id.

Thanks,
Deepak

Hi Samer/Norman/Tissa,

Please support adoption for LIME draft and mention if there are any IP= R.

Thanks,
Deepak

From: Lime <lime-bounces@ietf.org> on beh= alf of Dacheng Zhang <dacheng.zdc@alibaba-inc.com>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2015 at = 11:29 PM
To: "lime@ietf.org" <lime@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lime] Call for Adopti= on: draft-tissa-lime-yang-oam-model-06

Support the adoption.

Cheers

Dacheng

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

LIME,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-tissa-lime-yang-oa= m-model-06 [1] as a LIME working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or = not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

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lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28841B2B1A; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VsOuJzBtExR8; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8EF1B2B23; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:50:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.4.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150829115036.15249.20562.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 04:50:36 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 01:30:27 -0700 Cc: lime@ietf.org Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:50:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment Working Group of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) Authors : Tissa Senevirathne Norman Finn Deepak Kumar Samer Salam Qin Wu Michael Wang Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2015-08-29 Abstract: This document presents base YANG Data model for OAM. It provides a protocol-independent and technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs. Based model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM technologies and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different layers through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Aug 31 04:46:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5771B2A16; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 04:46:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zuL2wsfmqGkI; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 04:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 868A81A89E0; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 04:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.5.2.66]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 152FE7CCC6A80; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:44:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70uwxchhub02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.49]) by us70uusmtp4.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t7VBiGvA018303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:44:17 GMT Received: from US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.9.242]) by US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.49]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:44:16 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" , "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHQ48dPDy2ZTxxEmE2H9xaz9dF0rp4l/Mzg Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:44:15 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEBA0DC7@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <20150829115036.15249.20562.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150829115036.15249.20562.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.16] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "lime@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:46:49 -0000 Dear all, Did I miss the official announcement/assessment of the results and decision= re the LIME call for adoption of draft-tissa as a WG draft? Best regards, Eve -----Original Message----- From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:51 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: lime@ietf.org Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the M= ulti-Layer Environment Working Group of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Operations, Administr= ation, and Maintenance (OAM) Authors : Tissa Senevirathne Norman Finn Deepak Kumar Samer Salam Qin Wu Michael Wang Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt Pages : 47 Date : 2015-08-29 Abstract: This document presents base YANG Data model for OAM. It provides a protocol-independent and technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs. Based model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM technologies and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different layers through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Lime mailing list Lime@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime From nobody Mon Aug 31 08:01:00 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E471B4D26 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KroXmAW0KM1P for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0136.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80B441B4D1A for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.27) by BLUPR05MB1986.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.256.15; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:00:54 +0000 Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) by BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) with mapi id 15.01.0256.013; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:00:54 +0000 From: Ronald Bonica To: "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 Thread-Index: AdDj/ZmlVm1KCVhQTQievW2NxBCLVw== Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:00:54 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rbonica@juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.14] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR05MB1986; 5:DwEJQ7SIkjTR3o0TrS66MwZ+Jde2wZzHOv4kx+n8NngJCPzVvPhUuyZHKjd/1T5YnnzN0IgjrijNGJUtiftBVfTOLCY9sHuMsn4wiSwJR3I/wMnfUeywPrq4zsZJ9UQBkOEGJ+RI6fY+v/npxnWgUg==; 24:6eJsfobURKtIY9WIpujKOHOaBiIXys8gS6BnF7IexcC5AiG8yRApmd3AWvsD3kteGrcln4juP7zs4mhSwTWakfqEfPUnR5XUds4AabBrO7g=; 20:W115OFzJNS+FL2VecTz1DAjwhPdN78C4IvV2MQNGmBwDeOQmIRq1vLHLwG1DJTJxfmI3ZvikEVUaDXlO3vf1Uw== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; x-forefront-prvs: 0685122203 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(199003)(86362001)(33656002)(558084003)(2656002)(105586002)(66066001)(46102003)(92566002)(64706001)(87936001)(101416001)(50986999)(54356999)(99286002)(122556002)(230783001)(40100003)(10400500002)(2501003)(74316001)(5001830100001)(5004730100002)(2351001)(77156002)(189998001)(2900100001)(76576001)(450100001)(68736005)(5007970100001)(5003600100002)(5001960100002)(77096005)(97736004)(106356001)(5002640100001)(62966003)(5001860100001)(4001540100001)(81156007)(107886002)(102836002)(110136002)(229853001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1986; H:BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 31 Aug 2015 15:00:54.2391 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR05MB1986 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:00:58 -0000 Folks, Over the weekend, I mistakenly approved the posting of draft-ietf-lime-yang= -oam-model-00. This document is still in WG last call. Please continue the last call discussion. I will correct the administrative= error. Ron Bonica From nobody Mon Aug 31 15:58:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591011B69B9 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:58:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NJMiyzsDZCS2 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com (mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com [211.128.242.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B94A21B69B7 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yt-mxq.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (unknown [192.168.229.66]) by mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com with smtp id 6ee9_dee4_f3cc2473_ed02_4851_9553_9754318e3ef1; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:58:23 +0900 Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by yt-mxq.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3E8AC00C6; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:58:22 +0900 (JST) X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v2.3.2 X-SHieldMailCheckerPolicyVersion: FJ-ISEC-20140924-1 X-SHieldMailCheckerMailID: 98a3c82500d544209d3452c8c18327dd Message-ID: <55E4DC3B.1030302@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:59:07 +0900 From: Yuji Tochio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" References: <20150829115036.15249.20562.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEBA0DC7@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D8BEBA0DC7@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Cc: "lime@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:58:38 -0000 Dear Lime charis and all, I also have not seen the result from the chairs in this list. Could you confirm as Eve pointed out? Regards, Yuji On 2015/08/31 20:44, Varma, Eve L (Eve) wrote: > Dear all, > > Did I miss the official announcement/assessment of the results and decision re the LIME call for adoption of draft-tissa as a WG draft? > > Best regards, > Eve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lime [mailto:lime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 7:51 AM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: lime@ietf.org > Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) > Authors : Tissa Senevirathne > Norman Finn > Deepak Kumar > Samer Salam > Qin Wu > Michael Wang > Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00.txt > Pages : 47 > Date : 2015-08-29 > > Abstract: > This document presents base YANG Data model for OAM. It provides a > protocol-independent and technology-independent abstraction of key > OAM constructs. Based model presented here can be extended to > include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity > between OAM technologies and support nested OAM workflows (i.e., > performing OAM functions at different layers through a unified > interface). > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime From nobody Mon Aug 31 17:12:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428951B678E for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:12:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JKz3r2_27bFe for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com (mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com [211.128.242.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D3B01B6658 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yt-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (unknown [192.168.229.67]) by mgwym03.jp.fujitsu.com with smtp id 198e_0b49_1bf375b5_2a24_4ce3_8845_e1431c191b03; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:11:55 +0900 Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by yt-mxoi1.gw.nic.fujitsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8028AC02C1; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:11:54 +0900 (JST) X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v2.3.2 X-SHieldMailCheckerPolicyVersion: FJ-ISEC-20140924-1 X-SHieldMailCheckerMailID: d95feb33ffce405aa38d78da2a3ba427 Message-ID: <55E4ED70.9090904@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:12:32 +0900 From: Yuji Tochio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald Bonica , "lime@ietf.org" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 00:12:00 -0000 Hi Ron After posting my mail a hour before, I have noticed this mail... Sorry for my missing this post. Regards, Yuji On 2015/09/01 0:00, Ronald Bonica wrote: > Folks, > > Over the weekend, I mistakenly approved the posting of draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00. This document is still in WG last call. > > Please continue the last call discussion. I will correct the administrative error. > > Ron Bonica > > _______________________________________________ > Lime mailing list > Lime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime From nobody Mon Aug 31 17:44:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478571B6E16 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ty0atiqKIajm for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0758.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:758]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE27C1B6D13 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.27) by BLUPR05MB1988.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.162.224.30) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.256.15; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 00:44:42 +0000 Received: from BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) by BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.224.27]) with mapi id 15.01.0256.013; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 00:44:42 +0000 From: Ronald Bonica To: Yuji Tochio , "lime@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Lime] draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 Thread-Index: AdDj/ZmlVm1KCVhQTQievW2NxBCLVwATUusAAAEXxOA= Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 00:44:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: <55E4ED70.9090904@jp.fujitsu.com> In-Reply-To: <55E4ED70.9090904@jp.fujitsu.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rbonica@juniper.net; x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.14] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BLUPR05MB1988; 5:FIB1jWguFwgyRDC60BoKJOU5FgwEABHOIZPuUtnC+uXXzjEvJkIxhdGliNaZ4NBCykTaKjlqev9tB99Z1QQKDAeJKqBXRfREfbqDRxnAMkZOB5UOndnYPyLpT0YdIGzlKh2S+Avqd8rtVvjty6nInA==; 24:kqbahEI8iAaerq3/mSd9I22uQ1g+OXz0/CAaeVgbqwzXFPEmQ49bH11r+FgSSq4Hatv4B4XD/viR8+Ha5u2u0htmo/TG1ck6cglBrv36MbY=; 20:2h7Dogq0lNaldom8AGwVSvTGxrqyY5d0KvMa31C1RyQt2s9jpmsK8QIKpY0A9T3yiQDInTwHeQBHNJ59BGmYFA== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BLUPR05MB1988; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:BLUPR05MB1988; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1988; x-forefront-prvs: 06860EDC7B x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(189002)(377454003)(199003)(24454002)(479174004)(13464003)(5001860100001)(33656002)(15975445007)(87936001)(2656002)(5001830100001)(76576001)(81156007)(86362001)(105586002)(46102003)(5007970100001)(4001540100001)(5001770100001)(50986999)(230783001)(54356999)(68736005)(102836002)(77096005)(5004730100002)(189998001)(2950100001)(101416001)(99286002)(64706001)(19580395003)(40100003)(2501003)(5002640100001)(5001960100002)(122556002)(74316001)(107886002)(10400500002)(5003600100002)(92566002)(97736004)(106356001)(5001920100001)(77156002)(62966003)(76176999)(66066001)(19580405001)(2900100001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR05MB1988; H:BLUPR05MB1985.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 01 Sep 2015 00:44:42.6534 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BLUPR05MB1988 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lime] draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 00:44:48 -0000 Yuji, No problem. My mistake was the root cause. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: Yuji Tochio [mailto:tochio@jp.fujitsu.com] > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:13 PM > To: Ronald Bonica ; lime@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lime] draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-00 >=20 > Hi Ron >=20 > After posting my mail a hour before, I have noticed this mail... > Sorry for my missing this post. >=20 > Regards, Yuji >=20 >=20 > On 2015/09/01 0:00, Ronald Bonica wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Over the weekend, I mistakenly approved the posting of draft-ietf-lime- > yang-oam-model-00. This document is still in WG last call. > > > > Please continue the last call discussion. I will correct the administra= tive > error. > > > > Ron Bonica > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Lime mailing list > > Lime@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime >=20