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Authors,

At IETF 97, we agreed:

- to wait until December 14 for proposals regarding reorganization of the c=
onnectionless drafts
- If no proposals were posted, to post a final version of the connectionles=
s drafts and initiate a WG last call

Today is December 15 and no proposals have been posted. So, would the autho=
rs post new versions of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If possible, we can=
 initiate WG LC early in the new year.

                                           Ron


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Hi Ron, et. al,
sorry.
Happy belated birthday, Ludwig van!
Attached is the proposal I've been working on with help from Michael. Hope
it receives your consideration.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:

> Authors,
>
> At IETF 97, we agreed:
>
> - to wait until December 14 for proposals regarding reorganization of the
> connectionless drafts
> - If no proposals were posted, to post a final version of the
> connectionless drafts and initiate a WG last call
>
> Today is December 15 and no proposals have been posted. So, would the
> authors post new versions of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If possible,
> we can initiate WG LC early in the new year.
>
>                                            Ron
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ron, et. al,<div>sorry.</div><div>Happy belated birthda=
y, Ludwig van!</div><div>Attached is the proposal I&#39;ve been working on =
with help from Michael. Hope it receives your consideration.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Ron Bonica <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rbonica@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank=
">rbonica@juniper.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">Authors,<br>
<br>
At IETF 97, we agreed:<br>
<br>
- to wait until December 14 for proposals regarding reorganization of the c=
onnectionless drafts<br>
- If no proposals were posted, to post a final version of the connectionles=
s drafts and initiate a WG last call<br>
<br>
Today is December 15 and no proposals have been posted. So, would the autho=
rs post new versions of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If possible, we can=
 initiate WG LC early in the new year.<br>
<br>
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Hi Ron, Carlos, Authors, et. al,
I greatly appreciate your consideration of my comments and the proposal.
Regrettably, I didn't make much progress over last week.
I'll be looking for the new CL OAM YANG model draft, perhaps after the New
Year.

Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah! And happy New Year to everyone!

Regards,
Greg

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:

> Greg,
>
>
>
> Carlos and I have reviewed your proposal. Aside from being a day late, it
> is also somewhat short on detail. Putting myself in the authors=E2=80=99 =
position,
> I am not quite sure how I would apply your proposal.
>
>
>
> So, Carlos and I are instructing the authors to produce a new version of
> the connectionless drafts ASAP. If you want the authors to consider your
> proposal, please provide your input to them on the mailing list before
> December 23rd.
>
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:46 PM
> *To:* Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
> *Cc:* lime@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lime] Connectionless Drafts
>
>
>
> Hi Ron, et. al,
>
> sorry.
>
> Happy belated birthday, Ludwig van!
>
> Attached is the proposal I've been working on with help from Michael. Hop=
e
> it receives your consideration.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:
>
> Authors,
>
> At IETF 97, we agreed:
>
> - to wait until December 14 for proposals regarding reorganization of the
> connectionless drafts
> - If no proposals were posted, to post a final version of the
> connectionless drafts and initiate a WG last call
>
> Today is December 15 and no proposals have been posted. So, would the
> authors post new versions of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If possible,
> we can initiate WG LC early in the new year.
>
>                                            Ron
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ron, Carlos, Authors, et. al,<div>I greatly appreciate =
your consideration of my comments and the proposal. Regrettably, I didn&#39=
;t make much progress over last week.</div><div>I&#39;ll be looking for the=
 new CL OAM YANG model draft, perhaps after the New Year.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah! And happy New Year to everyone!</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:28 AM, R=
on Bonica <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rbonica@juniper.net" targ=
et=3D"_blank">rbonica@juniper.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_4042584809600391712WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Greg,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Carlos and I have reviewed your propo=
sal. Aside from being a day late, it is also somewhat short on detail. Putt=
ing myself in the authors=E2=80=99 position, I am not
 quite sure how I would apply your proposal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So, Carlos and I are instructing the =
authors to produce a new version of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If you =
want the authors to consider your proposal, please
 provide your input to them on the mailing list before December 23<sup>rd</=
sup>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<wbr>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<wbr>Ron<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_4042584809600391712__MailEndCompose"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></a></p>
<span></span>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Greg Mirsky [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Bonica &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rbonica@juniper.net" target=3D"=
_blank">rbonica@juniper.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lime@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lime@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lime] Connectionless Drafts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Ron, et. al,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">sorry.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Happy belated birthday, Ludwig van!<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Attached is the proposal I&#39;ve been working on wi=
th help from Michael. Hope it receives your consideration.<u></u><u></u></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Ron Bonica &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rbonica@juniper.net" target=3D"_blank">rbonica@juniper.net</a=
>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Authors,<br>
<br>
At IETF 97, we agreed:<br>
<br>
- to wait until December 14 for proposals regarding reorganization of the c=
onnectionless drafts<br>
- If no proposals were posted, to post a final version of the connectionles=
s drafts and initiate a WG last call<br>
<br>
Today is December 15 and no proposals have been posted. So, would the autho=
rs post new versions of the connectionless drafts ASAP. If possible, we can=
 initiate WG LC early in the new year.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Ron<br>
<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF.

        Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
        Authors         : Deepak Kumar
                          Qin Wu
                          Michael Wang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-08.txt
	Pages           : 50
	Date            : 2016-12-23

Abstract:
   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented
   OAM protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of
   key OAM constructs for such protocols.  The model presented here can
   be extended to include technology specific details.  This guarantees
   uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support
   for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different
   levels through a unified interface)


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF.

        Title           : Generic YANG Data Model for Connectionless Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols
        Authors         : Deepak Kumar
                          Michael Wang
                          Qin Wu
                          Reshad Rahman
                          Srihari Raghavan
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-03.txt
	Pages           : 55
	Date            : 2016-12-23

Abstract:
   This document presents a base YANG Data model for connectionless OAM
   protocols.  It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key
   OAM constructs for connectionless protocols.  The Based model
   presented here can be extended to include technology specific
   details.  This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and
   support nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at
   different or same levels through a unified interface).


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