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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 17:45:22 -0000 Reviewer: Carl Moberg Review result: On the Right Track I am the assigned YANG Doctor for the LIME YANG modules, this is the notes from my initial review of draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam done with the authors on a call last week: The module is intended to be implemented as a service model, per the module classification draft (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-model-classification-05) with augments to topologies, I suggest it needs more description on the general concepts and how to use it. I suggest to remove the 'OAM data hierarchy' section. It does not add any information. The current version YANG module is all configuration except the 'oper' subtree. And there are no mandatory nodes (except list keys) which seems to allow for many, many combinations that likely make no sense. Please re-review and make sure this is an informed choice. Suggest to rename tp-address-type-value to tp-address-technology-type. Why does 'grouping tp-technology' only allow 'technology-null' or 'technology-string'/'leaf ipv4-icmp' and what is the meaning of the leaf ipv4-icmp content? There are a couple of occasions of 'ordered-by user' that does not have a description of the meaning of the order. Please review. Add an if-feature on path-discovery in *-methods draft. Generally I'd suggest adding more information about the various types and which specifications you are picking them up from (e.g. RD, LSP ID, etc) The specification defines a typedef that is a path in another module ("routing-instance-ref"). Suggest to reach out to authors of draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-02 to see if they want the -ref type in that module for reuse. Generally check whitespace and comments. Use the '-f yang' option to YANG to fix whitespace. Downcase "IPv4-Multicast-Group-Address", and "IPv6-Multicast-Group-Address", "IP-Multicast-Group-Address" Name of top container ('oper') not very helpful, suggest renaming to 'session-statistics'? Spelling of grouping (and uses) cc-session-statsitics Filename should include revision in CODE BEGINS Don't reference drafts, pleas check RFC6087 bis and well-formed drafts for header stmts https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis#section-4.9' From nobody Fri Jun 2 00:57:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE23C12ACAF; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Carl Moberg To: Cc: lime@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.52.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149639025372.31882.14301747353948788147@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 00:57:33 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model-10 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 07:57:34 -0000 Reviewer: Carl Moberg Review result: On the Right Track I am the assigned YANG Doctor for the LIME YANG modules, this is the notes from my initial review of draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model done with the authors: First of all, would suggest we rename draft and the module itself: OLD: draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model NEW: draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model OLD: ietf-conn-oam NEW: ietf-connection-oriented-oam There are several uses of 'ordered-by system;'. Unless there is a specific, and documented reason for pointing out this default behavior, I suggest we simply remove them entirely. Please review the use of case, e.g. the 'Interval' typedef should likely be all lowercase. The description fields will need some language editing before release, e.g. the "Indicate whether the CC enable." description string for the 'MEP' list. From nobody Fri Jun 2 01:15:25 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844B71314CD; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 01:15:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Carl Moberg To: Cc: draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods.all@ietf.org, lime@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.52.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149639131942.31784.1129546145558830296@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 01:15:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-03 X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." 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On = Jun 2, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Carl Moberg <calle@tail-f.com> = wrote:

Reviewer: Carl Moberg
Review result: On the Right = Track

I am the assigned YANG Doctor for the LIME YANG modules, = this is the
notes from my initial review of = draft-ietf-lime-yang-oam-model done

Should say: = draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods

with the authors:

The CODE BEGINS statement has a = date designation in the file name for
ietf-connectionless-oam-methods = but not for
ietf-connectionless-oam-persistent-methods. Pick = one.


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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 11:09:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connectionless Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Deepak Kumar Michael Wang Qin Wu Reshad Rahman Srihari Raghavan Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-06.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2017-06-09 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connectionless Operations Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connectionless protocols. The base model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support both nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different or same levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:46:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Deepak Kumar Qin Wu Michael Wang Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-00.txt Pages : 52 Date : 2017-06-09 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connection oriented OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for such protocols. The model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This guarantees uniformity in the management of OAM protocols and provides support for nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through a unified interface) The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jun 16 03:26:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04441317F6; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 03:26:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: lime@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149760878473.24151.16749330191326399610@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 03:26:24 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-07.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:26:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Generic YANG Data Model for Connectionless Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Deepak Kumar Michael Wang Qin Wu Reshad Rahman Srihari Raghavan Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-07.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2017-06-16 Abstract: This document presents a base YANG Data model for connectionless Operations Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols. It provides a technology-independent abstraction of key OAM constructs for connectionless protocols. The base model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support both nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different or same levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 19 00:38:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lime@ietf.org Delivered-To: lime@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ABD128B91; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:38:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: lime@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149785791123.10781.15082877604727061306@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 00:38:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Lime] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-05.txt X-BeenThere: lime@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "Layer Independent OAM Management in Multi-Layer Environment \(LIME\) discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 07:38:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment of the IETF. Title : Retrieval Methods YANG Data Model for Connectionless Operations, Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols Authors : Deepak Kumar Michael Wang Qin Wu Reshad Rahman Srihari Raghavan Filename : draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-05.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2017-06-16 Abstract: This document presents a retrieval method YANG Data model for connectionless OAM protocols. It provides a technology-independent RPC commands for connectionless OAM protocols. The retrieval methods model presented here can be extended to include technology specific details. This is leading to uniformity between OAM protocols and support both nested OAM workflows (i.e., performing OAM functions at different levels through a unified interface) and interactive OAM workflows ( i.e., performing OAM functions at same levels through a unified interface). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:27:44 -0000 --_000_29E5AA024CC54CA9A967A9355EBD9175ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear WG, We will be progressing the LIME Connectionless documents, submitting them t= o our AD. Please see the respective write-ups at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/sh= epherdwriteup/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-me= thods/shepherdwriteup/ Thanks, Carlos & Ron. --_000_29E5AA024CC54CA9A967A9355EBD9175ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <500B3EF1B4790340A3EF0022B7182234@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear WG,

We will be progressing the LIME Connectionless documents, s= ubmitting them to our AD.

Please see the respective write-ups at:
https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam/shepherdwriteup/
https://datat= racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connectionless-oam-methods/shepher= dwriteup/

Thanks,

Carlos & Ron.
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Hi Carlos and Ron,
thank you for the upd= ate on these drafts. I haven't seen IPR poll, WGLC on any of these. Hav= e I missed them? I do have comments I'd like to share. Or should I wait= for the IETF LC?

Regard= s, Greg=C2=A0

On Jun 28, 2017 1:27 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" &l= t;cpignata@cisco.co= m> wrote:
Dear WG,

We will be progressing the LIME Connectionless documents, submitting t= hem to our AD.

Please see the respective write-ups at:

Thanks,

Carlos & Ron.

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h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EDDVhsNl2Hzn0fjnvKoAO27sdWOp0snDfK4r+xHFs5A=; b=bjyvzmo4jHOcxgQP6HsNA7Ow6HTYJLzL6YxGI3O1jrXRoGjXfeU/gBI7BMdCaVw9te fa+QaLeOabsdbgetv5Ony490PJkUCWOJL+lTHoUpTIHqne6Lzewg7C40sZsrnoM4PVDr Jb9aBxrXvI6OkLBEQLALo/E2ORMHvFTk+V3/WzjP/ivTNtpESFUGWwU73oKM4ZJthay9 AjvlofeLLOLo2Tzq7WnX8U4Vein+E/LFb+nsHEWAObOeSg80yUrHYMVGu8zRE9RTfNBL o4k24DTj9MGxlVOKsdcWzff41DKZ5OOFP9e39QHpr0+Tk3SgKj0BH3Da+KX95Rrf/dUj dDlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EDDVhsNl2Hzn0fjnvKoAO27sdWOp0snDfK4r+xHFs5A=; b=Ngn42ymErE6c2Jpbso3pWB/ejMwN08DwN3ogkQmEKpo0IxQtuoaLfOjQsXcVWclCot Gk5ZzJ3vU1OMMT1KZsZME1YlP7rLfjRJIPtvfbmhSlJ8fNaE6jfzUODKMxSjCMC3/49k w/Ww6Etpbh4vNwm6tpt62lIGn2OraG80m8Sv0r1cyNudS0xAROikWT9neL+UJwYXsMhz TrXR7WXsYKMG4utZ9S8UsdUDt+IBs0pzSw+LVfDLg7MeBSqUIxIsodsmpcldKNhuWZ8w 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 17:28:25 -0000 --001a1143219c86297005531ca0d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carlos, WGLC from January 2017? Considering that last time I've shared comments with authors at the meeting in Chicago, I'd consider that that WGLC had failed to clear the bar. But if WG chairs and AD believe differently, then the drafts were in the WG LC for five months. As I've mentioned, I've shared my comments at the meetings, on the list and conference calls. Regrettably, I've learned that my comments not taken into consideration and too many misconceptions stayed in the documents from one version to another after I've pointed them out. I consider it professional courtesy to reach directly to reviewers to confirm that proposed changes address their concerns. Sadly, no one asked my opinion about the changes that went into the current version. As I was not given time to review the latest version I took rather quick look at the connectionless OAM document and found the following: The level in 'oam-layers' indicate whether related OAM test point is The level in oam-layers indicate whether related oam test point is in client layer(lower layer described in section 3.3 ), server layer (upper layer described in section 3.3 ) or the same layer as the current test point under Test point Locations. I'm having hard time parsing this text and hope you can explain as you seem to be fine with it. And when I've followed on the reference to section 3.3 I've found that what I've commented on, suggested to change and authors verbally agreed to do still in place - {-1, 0, 1} model to indicate server-client layers. But, as I've pointed many times, relationships between Test Points on different layers may be more complex and may skip some layers (Ethernet OAM with its 8 layers in MEG may be one example). For the Test Points on the given OAM layer, notifications may be coming from different OAM layers down below. Current model, as I read the text, does not allow such scenario. But since I'm the only one who is, and frankly, has been commenting on these drafts throughout the time of the WG, I'll prepare thorough comments for the IETF LC. I had privilege working and observing work of all authors and learned from them a lot, got to respect their professionalism. Cannot understand what happened this time. Regards, Greg On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) < cpignata@cisco.com> wrote: > Greg, > > I am astonished at your statement. > > WGLCs: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/hcOi85Eu3dquUJZwWvx3BW_ZGbE > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/4fRb9w-S9Z01x3CCRty7x8uhdmw > > Your comments to the WGLCs: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/Bx6A0eqPRT4qXU8e_caXm4EElQA > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/8_O41P0U4yy2zNfeX4jwxSZk6oU > > After that the authors worked with you to incorporate your comments. > Subsequent revisions prompted more comments from you, all of which were > appropriately disposed of: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/x_ljuI0fvvNn2TSwj1BqXO6vgVo > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/nQGL4cgWSaCWpNXiLnvgt_OqbSk > > After that, the chairs gave you additional time and provided specific > review to subsequent comments: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/oY44xRj9wm6aiqALdyRLuQ3j1BQ > > A disposition to a comment means that they could have resulted in a > change, or not. > > IPR call coincinging with Adoption call: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lime/1ojMMWgjloC3FsE3Hp9E2JN2u00 > > I hope that clarifies? > > Thanks, > > =E2=80=94 Carlos. > > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > Hi Carlos and Ron, > thank you for the update on these drafts. I haven't seen IPR poll, WGLC o= n > any of these. Have I missed them? I do have comments I'd like to share. O= r > should I wait for the IETF LC? > > Regards, Greg > > On Jun 28, 2017 1:27 PM, "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" > wrote: > >> Dear WG, >> >> We will be progressing the LIME Connectionless documents, submitting the= m >> to our AD. >> >> Please see the respective write-ups at: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec >> tionless-oam/shepherdwriteup/ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lime-yang-connec >> tionless-oam-methods/shepherdwriteup/ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Carlos & Ron. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lime mailing list >> Lime@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lime >> >> > --001a1143219c86297005531ca0d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Carlos,
WGLC from January 2017? Considering that la= st time I've shared comments with authors at the meeting in Chicago, I&= #39;d consider that that WGLC had failed to clear the bar. But if WG chairs= and AD believe differently, then the drafts were in the WG LC for five mon= ths.

As I've mentioned, I've shared my com= ments at the meetings, on the list and conference calls. Regrettably, I'= ;ve learned that my comments not taken into consideration and too many misc= onceptions stayed in the documents from one version to another after I'= ve pointed them out. I consider it professional courtesy to reach directly = to reviewers to confirm that proposed changes address their concerns. Sadly= , no one asked my opinion about the changes that went into the current vers= ion.=C2=A0

As I was not given time to review the l= atest version I took rather quick look at the connectionless OAM document a= nd found the following:
   The =
level in 'oam-layers' indicate whether related OAM test point is
   The level in oam-layers indicate whether related oam test point is in
   client layer(lower layer described in section 3.3), server layer
   (upper layer described in section 3.3) or the sa=
me layer as the
   current test point under Test point Locations. 
I'm having h=
ard time parsing this text and hope you can explain as you seem to be fine =
with it. And when I've followed on the reference to section 3.3 =

I've found that what I've commented on, suggested to chang=
e and authors verbally agreed to do still in place - {-1, 0, 1} model to in=
dicate server-client layers. 
But, as I've pointed many =
times, relationships between Test Points on different layers may be more co=
mplex and may skip some layers (Ethernet OAM with its 8 layers
= 
in MEG may be one example). For the Test Points on the given OAM layer, =
notifications may be coming from different OAM layers down below. Current m=
odel,
as I read the text, does not allow such scenario.

But since I'm the=
 only one who is, and frankly, has been commenting on these drafts througho=
ut the time of the WG, I'll prepare thorough comments for the IETF LC.<=
/span>

I had privilege working and observing wor=
k of all authors and learned from them a lot, got to respect their professi=
onalism. Cannot understand what happened this time.
=

Regards,
Gre=
g

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Carlos Pignataro (= cpignata) <cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:
Greg,

I am astonished at your statement.

WGLCs:

Your comments to the WGLCs:

After that the authors worked with you to incorporate your comments. S= ubsequent revisions prompted more comments from you, all of which were appr= opriately disposed of:

After that, the chairs gave you additional time and provided specific = review to subsequent comments:

A disposition to a comment means that they could have resulted in a ch= ange, or not.

IPR call coincinging with Adoption call:

I hope that clarifies?

Thanks,

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Carlos and Ron,
thank you for the update on these drafts. I haven't s= een IPR poll, WGLC on any of these. Have I missed them? I do have comments = I'd like to share. Or should I wait for the IETF LC?

Regards, Greg=C2=A0

On Jun 28, 2017 1:27 PM, "Carlos Pignataro = (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> wrote:
Dear WG,

We will be progressing the LIME Connectionless documents, submitting t= hem to our AD.

Please see the respective write-ups at:

Thanks,

Carlos & Ron.

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