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IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-lmap-framework-11, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions. 

While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if the authors prefer to remove it, IANA doesn't object.

If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible.

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Amanda Baber
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On Mon Feb 23 15:35:30 2015, iesg-secretary@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> The IESG has received a request from the Large-Scale Measurement of
> Broadband Performance WG (lmap) to consider the following document:
> - 'A framework for Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance
>    (LMAP)'
>   <draft-ietf-lmap-framework-11.txt> as Informational RFC
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-03-09. Exceptionally, comments may be
> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
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> Abstract
> 
> 
>    Measuring broadband service on a large scale requires a description
>    of the logical architecture and standardisation of the key protocols
>    that coordinate interactions between the components.  The document
>    presents an overall framework for large-scale measurements.  It also
>    defines terminology for LMAP (Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband
>    Performance).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The file can be obtained via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-framework/
> 
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
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Hi,

The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:


    lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)

    Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130

This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. We p=
lan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. We need=
 names of the owners of each item in the agenda.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan



From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 1:26 PM
To: lmap@ietf.org
Subject: [lmap] IETF 92 - call for agenda items

The preliminary agenda of IETF 92 was posted at https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/meeting/92/agenda.txt<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-=
3A__datatracker.ietf.org_meeting_92_agenda.txt&d=3DAwMFAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl=
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ZeU&e=3D>.

Note that this agenda is preliminary and the time of the meetings are subje=
ct to change.

The LMAP WG session is scheduled for:

WEDNESDAY, March 25, 2015
0900-1130  Morning Session I
Parisian               OPS     lmap           Large-Scale Measurement of Br=
oadband Performance WG

As we start building the agenda, please send your proposals about the struc=
ture of the meeting, and the requests for presentation and discussion slots=
. Based on the proposals that we shall receive the chairs will build and po=
st the draft agenda in the next few days.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan




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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks and Regards,<o:=
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 23, 2015 1:26 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Note that this agenda is preliminary and the time of=
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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bsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; OPS &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lmap&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Large-Scale Measurement o=
f Broadband Performance WG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">As we start building the agenda, please send your pr=
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hairs will build and post the draft
 agenda in the next few days. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks and Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dan<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:
> 
> 
>     lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)
> 
>     Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130
> 
> This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. We plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. We need names of the owners of each item in the agenda.
>

Vaibhav and myself are happy to report about our YANG data model
updates:

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-lmap-yang-02

If desired, we can try to explain how that data model work relates to
to work underway in the NETCONF WG, primarily RESTCONF (currently in
WG last call) and the call-home work.

/js

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Hi Amanda,

I would propose to be consistent with the majority of lately published RFCs.
If the IANA considerations section is removed when empty, let's remove 
it here as well.

Regards, Benoit
> (BEGIN IANA LAST CALL COMMENTS)
>
> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
>
> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-lmap-framework-11, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:
>
> We understand that this document doesn't require any IANA actions.
>
> While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if the authors prefer to remove it, IANA doesn't object.
>
> If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amanda Baber
> IANA Request Specialist
> ICANN
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> (END IANA LAST CALL COMMENTS)
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>
> On Mon Feb 23 15:35:30 2015, iesg-secretary@ietf.org wrote:
>> The IESG has received a request from the Large-Scale Measurement of
>> Broadband Performance WG (lmap) to consider the following document:
>> - 'A framework for Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance
>>     (LMAP)'
>>    <draft-ietf-lmap-framework-11.txt> as Informational RFC
>>
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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>> Abstract
>>
>>
>>     Measuring broadband service on a large scale requires a description
>>     of the logical architecture and standardisation of the key protocols
>>     that coordinate interactions between the components.  The document
>>     presents an overall framework for large-scale measurements.  It also
>>     defines terminology for LMAP (Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband
>>     Performance).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The file can be obtained via
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-framework/
>>
>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-framework/ballot/
>>
>>
>> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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Hi Juergen and Vaibhav,

Thank you for your contribution. If I understand correctly this is intended=
 as a protocol contribution for LMAP. If so please include in your presenta=
tion also a short description about how this proposal meets the requirement=
s in http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-starkcarey-lmap-protocol-criteri=
a/.=20

Thanks and Regards,

Dan


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> Schoenwaelder
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:56 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: lmap@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [lmap] IETF 92 - call for agenda items
>=20
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:
> >
> >
> >     lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)
> >
> >     Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130
> >
> > This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. =
We
> plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. We
> need names of the owners of each item in the agenda.
> >
>=20
> Vaibhav and myself are happy to report about our YANG data model
> updates:
>=20
>   https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-
> 3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dschoenw-2Dlmap-2Dyang-
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> msOumWg&s=3DGZdYk-ORH1bmxOhhg6U8WeyiqCydVJzgKapGtRjeSMk&e=3D
>=20
> If desired, we can try to explain how that data model work relates to to =
work
> underway in the NETCONF WG, primarily RESTCONF (currently in WG last call=
)
> and the call-home work.
>=20
> /js
>=20
> --
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On 02. mars 2015 13:07, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:
>
>  
>
>     lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)
>
>     Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130
>
>  
>
> This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals.
> We plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols
> proposals. We need names of the owners of each item in the agenda.
>
Since the NETCONF WG changed their mind and decided to include call-home
functionality in RESTCONF, I do not see any point in continuing the work
on my draft for a YANG model for the controller. I'll instead try to
support the work that Juergen and Vaibhav are doing in their draft.

Arne
>
>  
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
>  
>
> Dan
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:*lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Romascanu,
> Dan (Dan)
> *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2015 1:26 PM
> *To:* lmap@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [lmap] IETF 92 - call for agenda items
>
>  
>
> The preliminary agenda of IETF 92 was posted at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.txt
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_meeting_92_agenda.txt&d=AwMFAg&c=BFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=I4dzGxR31OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=uY60htTXrPgvnHZJYhWYXjkqtA7Pg-0hIASa8uw0yK8&s=Oafz5Y5jl7K-j2Bnirq9A4q3VMNVq7WjP0I9DkYRZeU&e=>.
>
>
>  
>
> Note that this agenda is preliminary and the time of the meetings are
> subject to change.
>
>  
>
> The LMAP WG session is scheduled for:
>
>  
>
> WEDNESDAY, March 25, 2015
>
> 0900-1130  Morning Session I
>
> Parisian               OPS     lmap           Large-Scale Measurement
> of Broadband Performance WG
>
>  
>
> As we start building the agenda, please send your proposals about the
> structure of the meeting, and the requests for presentation and
> discussion slots. Based on the proposals that we shall receive the
> chairs will build and post the draft agenda in the next few days.
>
>  
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
>  
>
> Dan
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
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I have uploaded a draft agenda for the IETF 92 LMAP WG meeting at http://ww=
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        Title           : Information Model for Large-Scale Measurement Platforms (LMAP)
        Authors         : Trevor Burbridge
                          Philip Eardley
                          Marcelo Bagnulo
                          Juergen Schoenwaelder
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-04.txt
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	Date            : 2015-03-05

Abstract:
   This Information Model applies to the Measurement Agent within a
   Large-Scale Measurement Platform.  As such it outlines the
   information that is (pre-)configured on the MA or exists in
   communications with a Controller or Collector within an LMAP
   framework.  The purpose of such an Information Model is to provide a
   protocol and device independent view of the MA that can be
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Trevor,

I was updating the TR-069 LMAP data model and had a question about the Role=
 that was placed back into the Information Model for the task capability.
Actually my question is that shouldn't the Role also then be in the new sta=
tus object. You would want to report the status of the last task for a spec=
ified Role - correct?

Thanks,
Tim

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Radia for your review.
> The authors have posted the v10. I believe it addresses your feedback.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-lmap-framework-08&difftype=--html&submit=Go!&url2=draft-ietf-lmap-framework-10
> I would appreciate if you could double-check.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>

Yes, indeed the new version addresses my feedback.  It is fine.  Thank you,

Radia

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    <div>Thanks Radia for your review.<br>
      The authors have posted the v10. I believe it addresses your
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Dan,

I would like to request a short period of agenda time for an expected 
liaison input addressing IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile Broadband Network 
Performance Measurements). Remote presentation capabilities are preferred.

Regards,

Roger

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On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:
>
>
>      lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)
>
>      Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130
>
>  This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. 
We plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. 
We need names of the owners of each item in the agenda.
>



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style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">Dan,<br><br>I would 
like to request a short period of agenda time for an expected liaison 
input addressing IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile Broadband Network 
Performance Measurements). Remote presentation capabilities are 
preferred.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Roger<br><br></span><span><div 
class="moz-signature">-- <br><span><small><small><span style="color: 
rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span><pre wrap="">Roger B. Marks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:roger@ethair.net">&lt;roger@ethair.net&gt;</a>
EthAirNet Associates <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://ethair.net">&lt;http://ethair.net&gt;</a>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless Access <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://WirelessMAN.org">&lt;http://WirelessMAN.org&gt;</a></pre></span></span></small></small></span></div></span><br><span
 style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;"><br><br><br>On Mon, 
Mar 02, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:<br>&gt; 
Hi,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP 
is scheduled:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)<br>&gt;
 <br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 
This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. 
We plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. 
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Hi Roger,

Thanks for the early information. We will include this in the agenda of the=
 meeting. Please use the information at https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaiso=
n/add/?incoming when sending the liaison message.

Regards,

Dan


From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roger Marks
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 12:09 PM
To: lmap@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [lmap] IETF 92 - call for agenda items

Dan,

I would like to request a short period of agenda time for an expected liais=
on input addressing IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile Broadband Network Perform=
ance Measurements). Remote presentation capabilities are preferred.

Regards,

Roger
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On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:07:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:
>
>
>     lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)
>
>     Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130
>
> This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals. We=
 plan to spend part of the meeting reviewing the protocols proposals. We ne=
ed names of the owners of each item in the agenda.
>


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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Marks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 09, 2015 12:09 PM<br>
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<br>
I would like to request a short period of agenda time for an expected liais=
on input addressing IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile Broadband Network Perform=
ance Measurements). Remote presentation capabilities are preferred.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">Roger B. Marks <a href=3D"mailto:roger@e=
thair.net">&lt;roger@ethair.net&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">EthAirNet Associates <a href=3D"https://=
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<pre><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broa=
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&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The final agenda of IETF 92 was published and LMAP is scheduled:<br>
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&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lmap Session 1 (2:30:00)<br>
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&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This is a reminder that we are waiting for agenda items and proposals.=
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Hi,

We need help with notes taking and jabber scribing for the LMAP WG meeting =
on Wednesday. We actually cannot start the meeting without two notes takers=
 and one jabber scribe. Please consider volunteering.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan


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This call is still open. We did not fill all the required slots. Please vol=
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If you own items in the agenda and you plan to use slides, please send thes=
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Thanks and Regards,

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Hi,

We need help with notes taking and jabber scribing for the LMAP WG meeting =
on Wednesday. We actually cannot start the meeting without two notes takers=
 and one jabber scribe. Please consider volunteering.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi,

here is our attempt to match the YANG data model / RESTCONF
protocol proposal against the protocol selection criteria in
draft-starkcarey-lmap-protocol-criteria-01:

I am not sure whether there are any competitors in the race. But if
so, it would be nice if they could also post their match against the
criteria also before the meeting so that we can all come prepared.

/js

  CP-MUST-1 yes (RFC6241 RFC6242, RFC5539), draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-04
  CP-MUST-2 yes draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-04
  CP-MUST-3 yes SSH / TLS (NETCONF), TLS (RESTCONF)
  CP-MUST-4 yes YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model

  CP-DIFF-1 1
  CP-DIFF-2 1
  CP-DIFF-3 yes
  CP-DIFF-4 yes (NETCONF|RESTCONF) call home
  CP-DIFF-5 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
  CP-DIFF-6 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
  CP-DIFF-7 HTTP and JSON/XML are pretty much everywhere
  CP-DIFF-8 YANG tools are out there and the rest will develop,
            HTTP and TLS are pretty well understood
  CP-DIFF-9 yes
  CP-DIFF-10 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools available
  CP-DIFF-11 yes, YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model
  CP-DIFF-12 additional YANG modules can augment the standard data model
  CP-DIFF-13 JSON and XML, CBOR in the making
  
  RP-MUST-1 yes draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-04
  RP-MUST-2 SSH / TLS (NETCONF), TLS (RESTCONF)
  RP-MUST-3 YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model

  RP-DIFF-1 TCP
  RP-DIFF-2 yes
  RP-DIFF-3 (underspecified - it is HTTP over TLS)
  RP-DIFF-4 yes
  RP-DIFF-5 yes
  RP-DIFF-6 yes (as part of HTTP encoding negotiations)
  RP-DIFF-7 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
  RP-DIFF-8 HTTP and JSON/XML are pretty much everywhere
  RP-DIFF-9 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools available
  RP-DIFF-10 yes
  RP-DIFF-11 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools available
  RP-DIFF-12 JSON and XML, CBOR in the making
  
/js

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Thanks, Juergen.

We also have https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/.=20

The other proposal I know about is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-b=
agnulo-lmap-http/ which you are also a co-author. Does the YANG / RESTCONF =
proposal replace that?=20

Anyway - this is the expected input and as you say - all other proposals ar=
e welcome to post their match against the criteria prior to the meeting nex=
t week.=20

Regards,

Dan


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> Schoenwaelder
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> Subject: [lmap] protocol selection: lmap yang data model / restconf proto=
col
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> here is our attempt to match the YANG data model / RESTCONF protocol
> proposal against the protocol selection criteria in
> draft-starkcarey-lmap-protocol-criteria-01:
>=20
> I am not sure whether there are any competitors in the race. But if so, i=
t
> would be nice if they could also post their match against the criteria al=
so
> before the meeting so that we can all come prepared.
>=20
> /js
>=20
>   CP-MUST-1 yes (RFC6241 RFC6242, RFC5539), draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-0=
4
>   CP-MUST-2 yes draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-04
>   CP-MUST-3 yes SSH / TLS (NETCONF), TLS (RESTCONF)
>   CP-MUST-4 yes YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model
>=20
>   CP-DIFF-1 1
>   CP-DIFF-2 1
>   CP-DIFF-3 yes
>   CP-DIFF-4 yes (NETCONF|RESTCONF) call home
>   CP-DIFF-5 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
>   CP-DIFF-6 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
>   CP-DIFF-7 HTTP and JSON/XML are pretty much everywhere
>   CP-DIFF-8 YANG tools are out there and the rest will develop,
>             HTTP and TLS are pretty well understood
>   CP-DIFF-9 yes
>   CP-DIFF-10 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools availab=
le
>   CP-DIFF-11 yes, YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model
>   CP-DIFF-12 additional YANG modules can augment the standard data model
>   CP-DIFF-13 JSON and XML, CBOR in the making
>=20
>   RP-MUST-1 yes draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-04
>   RP-MUST-2 SSH / TLS (NETCONF), TLS (RESTCONF)
>   RP-MUST-3 YANG RFC 6020 data models have a version model
>=20
>   RP-DIFF-1 TCP
>   RP-DIFF-2 yes
>   RP-DIFF-3 (underspecified - it is HTTP over TLS)
>   RP-DIFF-4 yes
>   RP-DIFF-5 yes
>   RP-DIFF-6 yes (as part of HTTP encoding negotiations)
>   RP-DIFF-7 (underspecified - it is JSON or XML over HTTP/TLS)
>   RP-DIFF-8 HTTP and JSON/XML are pretty much everywhere
>   RP-DIFF-9 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools availabl=
e
>   RP-DIFF-10 yes
>   RP-DIFF-11 many tools out there to create REST code, YANG tools availab=
le
>   RP-DIFF-12 JSON and XML, CBOR in the making
>=20
> /js
>=20
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 02:54:16PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Thanks, Juergen.
> 
> We also have https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/. 
> 
> The other proposal I know about is https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bagnulo-lmap-http/ which you are also a co-author. Does the YANG / RESTCONF proposal replace that? 
>

I can't speak for the other co-authors, but since RESTCONF and
RESTCONF/NETCONF call home has significantly matured since the -00
version of this ID was written (July 2013), I think YANG/RESTCONF is a
viable option, although it swaps the client/server roles compared to
what was originally envisioned.

/js

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Hi,

we thought it might be useful if people can see an example showing how
a YANG data model leads to HTTP interactions on the wire by using
RESTCONF. So here is an example we came up with.

* RESTCONF Example Interactions

  We thought it might help if we provide an example how a YANG data
  model and RESTCONF result in HTTP protocol interactions on the wire.
  We decided to pick the configuration of a new schedule as an
  example. We will show the respective part of the data model, how
  that leads to an XML serialization of instance data and how a
  RESTCONF POST to create this instance data looks like on the wire.

** Data Model

   Below is a YANG tree diagram of a part of the data model covering
   schedules. This is taken from draft-schoenw-lmap-yang-02.

module: ietf-lmap
   +--rw lmap
      +--rw schedules
         +--rw schedule* [name]
            +--rw name      string
            +--rw action* [name]
            |  +--rw name           string
            |  +--rw task           leafref
            |  +--rw option* [name]
            |  |  +--rw name     string
            |  |  +--rw value?   string
            |  +--rw destination* [name]
            |     +--rw name        string
            |     +--rw output*     uint16
            |     +--rw schedule    leafref
            |     +--rw action      leafref
            +--rw timing    leafref

** XML Instance Data

   Here is an XML representation of instance data conforming to the
   YANG data model is shown below. Note that some of the strings are
   references to other portions of the instance data not show here.
   This is again taken from draft-schoenw-lmap-yang-02.txt.

  <lmap xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-lmap">
    <schedules>
      <schedule>
        <name>hourly</name>
        <action>
          <name>icmp-latency-hourly</name>
          <task>icmp-latency-measurement</task>
          <destination>
            <name>q-all</name>
            <schedule>daily</schedule>
            <action>report-daily</action>
          </destination>
        </action>
        <timing>hourly</timing>
      </schedule>
    </schedules>
  </lmap>

** RESTCONF POST to create an hourly schedule

   Here is an example showing how RESTCONF can be used to create the
   above schedule. The prefix C: indicates the controller, the prefix
   M: indicates the measurement agent. This example uses a JSON
   encoding (and note that much of the white-space can be removed, this
   is only there to help with readability).

  C: POST /restconf/data/ietf-lmap:lmap/schedules HTTP/1.1
  C: Host: example.com
  C: Content-Type: application/yang.data+json
  C:
  C:   {
  C:     "ietf-lmap:schedule": {
  C:       "name": "hourly",
  C:       "action": [
  C:         {
  C:           "name": "icmp-latency-hourly",
  C:           "task": "icmp-latency-measurement",
  C:           "destination": [
  C:             {
  C:               "name": "q-all",
  C:               "schedule": "daily",
  C:               "action": "report-daily"
  C:             }
  C:           ]
  C:         }
  C:       ],
  C:       "timing": "hourly"
  C:     }
  C:   }

  M: HTTP/1.1 201 Created
  M: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:01:00 GMT
  M: Server: example-server
  M: Location: https://example.com/restconf/data/ietf-lmap:lmap/schedules/schedule=hourly
  M: Last-Modified: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:01:00 GMT
  M: ETag: b3a3e673be2

/js

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Dan and Jason,

A liaison statement to IETF LMAP regarding IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile 
Broadband Network Performance Measurements) has been posted as 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1387>.

The statement, and the referenced slides at 
<https://mentor.ieee.org/802.16/dcn/16-15-0015>, are the subject of item 
8 of the current agenda <https://tools.ietf.org/wg/lmap/agenda> for the 
LMAP meeting of 2015-03-25 at IETF 92.

The presentation of this topic at the meeting will be led by Antonio 
Bovo using electronic facilities, if available.

Regards,

Roger Marks

-- 

Roger B. Marks<roger@ethair.net>
EthAirNet Associates<http://ethair.net>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless Access<http://WirelessMAN.org>


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style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">Dan and Jason,<br><br>A
 liaison statement to IETF LMAP regarding IEEE Project 802.16.3 (Mobile 
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1387">&lt;https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1387&gt;</a>.<br><br>The statement,
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<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://tools.ietf.org/wg/lmap/agenda">&lt;https://tools.ietf.org/wg/lmap/agenda&gt;</a> for the LMAP meeting of 
2015-03-25 at IETF 92.<br><br>The presentation of this topic at the 
meeting will be led by Antonio Bovo using electronic facilities, if 
available.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Roger Marks<br></span><br><div 
class="moz-signature">-- <br><span><small><small><span style="color: 
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EthAirNet Associates <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://ethair.net">&lt;http://ethair.net&gt;</a>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless Access <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://WirelessMAN.org">&lt;http://WirelessMAN.org&gt;</a></pre></span></span></small></small></span></div></div>
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Hi All

We are the author of Draft-liu-lmap-rest-02. Here is our reply to the
Citeria. Any comment and discussion of the draft is big welcome. Thank =
you!

Control Protocol Criteria
Mandatory Criteria
[CP-MUST-1]--[Draft-liu-lmap-rest-02]--section 4.1
[CP-MUST-2]-- [Draft-liu-lmap-rest-02]--section 5.1
[CP-MUST-3] the credential employed for authentication by HTTPS.=20
[CP-MUST-4] we use JSON which can be extended by adding more information
mode. (hoping this can be adding in information mode draft as well)

Comparative Criteria
[CP-DIFF-1] 1=20
[CP-DIFF-2] 1=20
[CP-DIFF-3] Yes
[CP-DIFF-4] JSON and REST over HTTPs
[CP-DIFF-5] Header contain about 100bytes(host\content type\accept)
[CP-DIFF-6] Header contain about 100bytes(host\content type\accept)
[CP-DIFF-7] Rest widely used. Meantime, Chinacache has been used it as a
trial.
[CP-DIFF-8]Test tools for JSON. More is under developed.
[CP-DIFF-9] yes on Github
[CP-DIFF-10] JSON and HTTPs, also we developed open source program.
[CP-DIFF-11] yes
[CP-DIFF-12] yes
[CP-DIFF-13] JSON

Report Protocol Criteria
Mandatory Criteria
[RP-MUST-1] [Draft-liu-lmap-rest-02]--section 5.1
[RP-MUST-2] the credential employed for authentication by HTTPS.
[RP-MUST-3] we use JSON which can be extended.(hoping this can be adding =
in
information mode draft as well)

Comparative Criteria
[RP-DIFF-1] TCP
[RP-DIFF-2] Yes
[RP-DIFF-3] 1
[RP-DIFF-4] Yes
[RP-DIFF-5] Yes
[RP-DIFF-6] Yes=20
[RP-DIFF-7] about 100 bytes
[RP-DIFF-8] REST is used widely
[RP-DIFF-9] Test tools for JSON, certification program
[RP-DIFF-10] Yes
[RP-DIFF-11] JSON and HTTPs, also we developed open source program.
[RP-DIFF-12] JSON


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Hi,

I am struggling with a lack of descriptions for the information
element definition in the information model. I took the .xml sources
yesterday and I started to rewrite the definitions to make them more
readable and to have sufficient space for explanations. Before I spent
more time on this conversion, I thought I first check for support.
Perhaps a simple example explains this best:

OLD

   // Suppression object to temporarily override new task execution
   // in Instructions and optionally stop currently running tasks

   object {
       boolean             ma-suppression-enabled;
      [boolean             ma-suppression-stop-ongoing-tasks;]
                   // default: false
      [datetime            ma-suppression-start;] // default: immediate
      [datetime            ma-suppression-end;]   // default: indefinite
      [string              ma-suppression-task-names<0..*>;]
                           // default: all tasks if
                           // ma-suppression-task-names is empty
      [string              ma-suppression-schedule-names<0..*>;]
                           // default: all schedules if
                           // ma-suppression-schedule-names is empty
   } ma-suppression-obj;

NEW

3.3.2.  Definition of ma-suppression-obj

     object {
         boolean             ma-suppression-enabled;
        [boolean             ma-suppression-stop-running;]
        [datetime            ma-suppression-start;]
        [datetime            ma-suppression-end;]
        [string              ma-suppression-task-names<0..*>;]
        [string              ma-suppression-schedule-names<0..*>;]
     } ma-suppression-obj;

   The ma-suppression-obj consists of the following elements:

   ma-suppression-enabled:         A boolean indicating whether
                                   suppression is enabled or not.

   ma-suppression-stop-running:    An optional boolean indicating
                                   whether suppression will stop any
                                   running tasks.  The default value for
                                   this boolean is false.

   ma-suppression-start:           The optional date and time when
                                   suppression starts.  The default
                                   value is 'immediate'.

   ma-suppression-end:             The optional date and time when
                                   suppression ends.  The default value
                                   is 'indefinite'.

   ma-suppression-task-names:      An optional and possibly empty
                                   collection of task names.  If not
                                   present, this defaults to all tasks.

   ma-suppression-schedule-names:  An optional and possibly empty
                                   collection of schedule names.  If not
                                   present, this defaults to all
                                   schedules.

In short, I am creating a subsection for each definition (so things
are easier to find), I remove all // inline comments and instead
describe each element/field in plain text below the definition.  The
resulting text is somewhat longer but I find things may more readable
and it provides sufficient space to properly document semantics.

/js

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Hi,

I have done my homework to produce an I-D that describes how a YANG
data model maps to bits on the wire using RESTCONF. We tried to keep
things concise - if more explanation is needed, let us know.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf-00

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Thanks, Juergen.=20

All WG participants - please read, comment, ask questions!

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Juergen,

I did have a question on the communication of a MA to a Data Collector.

The communication is based on schedules for a particular scheduled task tha=
t executed a task. Is all these multiple schedules - each for specific resu=
lts from a scheduled task work within the call home mechanism. Can a MA cal=
l home to multiple servers?

BR,
Tim

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Thanks, Juergen.=20

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On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 08:05:11PM +0000, Carey, Timothy (Timothy) wrote:
> Juergen,
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> I did have a question on the communication of a MA to a Data Collector.
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> The communication is based on schedules for a particular scheduled task that executed a task. Is all these multiple schedules - each for specific results from a scheduled task work within the call home mechanism.
>

For reports, I assume the reporting task calls home whenever needed.

>  Can a MA call home to multiple servers?

Yes. You can have multiple 'servers' and for each one you can have
multiple endpoints (so you can fail over to backup 'servers').

/js

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There was some discussion during the LMAP meeting about the reporting of se=
rvice parameters by the MA.
This is indeed covered by the framework
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-framework-12#section-5.4.1

this sub-section is called "Reporting of Subscriber's service parameters".
"The Subscriber's service parameters are information about his/her broadban=
d contract, line rate and so on."

I think from the discussion that this is slightly narrow - we mentioned thi=
ngs other than Subscriber's service parameters. So I suggest we add a sente=
nce on the lines:

Similarly the MA could report service parameters about the device with the =
MA, such as its access interface or location.

Assuming people are OK (please say if not), we can add this at the same tim=
e as handling the IESG comments

Thanks
phil

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">There was some discussion during the LMAP=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">this sub-section is called &#8220;Reporti=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&#8220;The Subscriber's service parameter=
s are information about his/her broadband contract, line rate and so on.&#8=
221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I think from the discussion that this is =
slightly narrow &#8211; we mentioned things other than Subscriber&#8217;s s=
ervice parameters. So I suggest we add a sentence on the lines:<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Similarly the MA could report service par=
ameters about the device with the MA, such as its access interface or locat=
ion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Assuming people are OK (please say if not=
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:49:34PM +0000, philip.eardley@bt.com wrote:
> There was some discussion during the LMAP meeting about the reporting of service parameters by the MA.
> This is indeed covered by the framework
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-framework-12#section-5.4.1
> 
> this sub-section is called "Reporting of Subscriber's service parameters".
> "The Subscriber's service parameters are information about his/her broadband contract, line rate and so on."
> 
> I think from the discussion that this is slightly narrow - we mentioned things other than Subscriber's service parameters. So I suggest we add a sentence on the lines:
> 
> Similarly the MA could report service parameters about the device with the MA, such as its access interface or location.
> 
> Assuming people are OK (please say if not), we can add this at the same time as handling the IESG comments
>

Where do you want to add this sentence?

/js

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