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Hi,

here is a little change I may suggest. In the ietf-lmap-report model, I would
rename three leafs

  s/schedule-name/schedule/
  s/action-name/action/
  s/task-name/task/

to be consistent with the ietf-lmap-control data model (where we also
do not use '-name' for such reference leafs, e.g.,
/lmap/schedules/schedule/action/task refers to a task or
/lmap/schedules/schedule/start refers to an event).

There is also a bug to fix in section 2:

   2.  The module ietf-lmap-config.yang defines the data structures
       exchanged between a Controller and Measurement Agents.

The module is called ietf-lmap-control.yang and not ietf-lmap-config.yang.

/js

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The WGLC concluded. There were no comments. Taking silence as consensus we
shall go ahead and prepare the submission for to the IESG.

At this point we would request the WG participants:

1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectual Property relevant to
this document
2. to let us know if there are any implementations or plans to implement
the IM defined in this document

Thanks and Regards,

Dan


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The WGLC concluded. There were no comments, excepting the edits suggested
by Juergen. We would like to ask Juergen to issue a revised I-D that
includes the proposed edits, which will be the version to submit.

Taking silence as consensus we shall go ahead and prepare the submission
form to the IESG.

At this point we would request the WG participants:

1. to let us know if there is any known Intellectual Property relevant to
this document
2. to let us know if there are any implementations or plans to implement
the YANG DM defined in this document

Thanks and Regards,

Dan

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Intellectual Property relevant to this document<br></div>2. to let us know =
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in this document<br><br></div>Thanks and Regards,<br><br></div>Dan<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 21, =
2016 at 6:25 PM, Dan Romascanu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:drom=
asca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>This mess=
age starts an LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-yang-08 - <a href=3D"https://da=
tatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-yang/" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
atracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-lmap-yang/</a>. <br><br></div>Please
 let us know if you believe that this document is ready to be sent to=20
the IESG for consideration as Proposed Standards. It&#39;s OK to state that=
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the document is just fine, it&#39;s even better to let us know if you have=
=20
concerns and comments to improve and detail them. Messages about=20
implementations or plans to implement are also welcome. Please send=20
these before Monday December 5, 2016. <br><br></div>Thanks and Regards, <br=
><br></div>Jason and Dan</div>
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Hi Tim,

Can you share the comments on the mail list? If I missed them - can you
point to the message? We were not planning a new revision of the IM - so we
need to get consensus on the changes.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <
timothy.carey@nokia.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
>
>
> I provided comments to Juergen which I believe is expected to go into a
> new revision of the IM.
>
>
>
> I do not know of IP relevant to this document.
>
> BBF plans to define a TR-069 data model based on the IM defined in this
> document.
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 6:11 AM
> *To:* lmap@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
>
>
>
> The WGLC concluded. There were no comments. Taking silence as consensus we
> shall go ahead and prepare the submission for to the IESG.
>
> At this point we would request the WG participants:
>
> 1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectual Property relevant to
> this document
>
> 2. to let us know if there are any implementations or plans to implement
> the IM defined in this document
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This message starts an LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model/.
>
> Please let us know if you believe that this document is ready to be sent
> to the IESG for consideration as Proposed Standards. It's OK to state that
> the document is just fine, it's even better to let us know if you have
> concerns and comments to improve and detail them. Messages about
> implementations or plans to implement are also welcome. Please send these
> before Monday December 5, 2016.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jason and Dan
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Tim,<br><br></div>Can you share the comm=
ents on the mail list? If I missed them - can you point to the message? We =
were not planning a new revision of the IM - so we need to get consensus on=
 the changes. <br><br></div>Thanks and Regards,<br><br></div>Dan<br><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 12=
, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:timothy.carey@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">timothy.carey@nokia=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"m_-8543057842112091338WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Dan,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I provided comments to Juergen which I believe is e=
xpected to go into a new revision of the IM.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I do not know of IP relevant to this document.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">BBF plans to define a TR-069 data model based on th=
e IM defined in this document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">BR,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Tim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Dan Romascanu [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2016 6:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lmap@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lmap@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-<wbr>model-=
13<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The WGLC concluded. T=
here were no comments. Taking silence as consensus we shall go ahead and pr=
epare the submission for to the IESG.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">At this point we woul=
d request the WG participants:
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectua=
l Property relevant to this document<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">2. to let us know if =
there are any implementations or plans to implement the IM defined in this =
document<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks and Regards,<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Dan Romascanu &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">This message starts a=
n LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-<wbr>model-13 -
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-information-mod=
el/" target=3D"_blank">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-lmap-<wbr>information-mode=
l/</a>. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Please let us know if=
 you believe that this document is ready to be sent to the IESG for conside=
ration as Proposed Standards. It&#39;s OK to state that the document is jus=
t fine, it&#39;s even better to let us know
 if you have concerns and comments to improve and detail them. Messages abo=
ut implementations or plans to implement are also welcome. Please send thes=
e before Monday December 5, 2016.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks and Regards, <=
u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jason and Dan<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div></div></div>
</div>

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Hi Dan,

the proposed diff is here:

http://www.beadg.de/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-14-from-3.diff.html

It is all editorial as far as I can tell.

/js

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:37:36PM +0200, Dan Romascanu wrote:
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Can you share the comments on the mail list? If I missed them - can you
> point to the message? We were not planning a new revision of the IM - so we
> need to get consensus on the changes.
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <
> timothy.carey@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dan,
> >
> >
> >
> > I provided comments to Juergen which I believe is expected to go into a
> > new revision of the IM.
> >
> >
> >
> > I do not know of IP relevant to this document.
> >
> > BBF plans to define a TR-069 data model based on the IM defined in this
> > document.
> >
> >
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 6:11 AM
> > *To:* lmap@ietf.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
> >
> >
> >
> > The WGLC concluded. There were no comments. Taking silence as consensus we
> > shall go ahead and prepare the submission for to the IESG.
> >
> > At this point we would request the WG participants:
> >
> > 1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectual Property relevant to
> > this document
> >
> > 2. to let us know if there are any implementations or plans to implement
> > the IM defined in this document
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This message starts an LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
> > - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model/.
> >
> > Please let us know if you believe that this document is ready to be sent
> > to the IESG for consideration as Proposed Standards. It's OK to state that
> > the document is just fine, it's even better to let us know if you have
> > concerns and comments to improve and detail them. Messages about
> > implementations or plans to implement are also welcome. Please send these
> > before Monday December 5, 2016.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> >
> > Jason and Dan
> >
> >
> >

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From: Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 23:00:50 +0200
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Thanks, Tim!

Does anybody have any reservation about these changes?

If yes, please let us know immediately on the lmap mail list.
If not, Juergen will issue a revised version of the IM in a couple of days.

Regards,

Dan


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <
timothy.carey@nokia.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> They were comments embedded in the PDF version of the document.
>
> Here was the resulting messages from Juergen and myself =E2=80=93 you can=
 see in
> the diff; the changes were editorial
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim. I have made a couple of edits. See here for a diff:
>
>
>
> http://www.beadg.de/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-14-from-3.diff.html
>
>
>
> - I did not remove the logging examples; they may not be tremendously
>
>   useful but then I like to minimize the edits.
>
>
>
> - Order of options and RFC 2119 language: There are many things in
>
>   this document that I think are normative but where we do not use RFC
>
>   2119 language. It would be a major effort to go through the document
>
>   and put RFC 2119 language everywhere where we say something
>
>   normative. Not sure I am keen on doing this until I am forced to do
>
>   so. (There are actually only two MUST - both related to timestamp
>
>   formats.)
>
>
>
> - The text about order of options may look duplicate but then the text
>
>   is once for the report and once for the schedule, i.e. action
>
>   invocation. I do not think this duplication is harmful.
>
>
>
> - Yes, the information does not define the parameters aka options of
>
>   tasks. Hence you can't find this flag in the information model.
>
>
>
> /js
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 07:57:56PM +0000, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US)
> wrote:
>
> > Juergen,
>
> >
>
> > FYI - I did a review of the LMAP IM - My comments are attached. I didn'=
t
> see any problems in the information model - just some editorial comments.
>
> >
>
> > Merry Christmas
>
> >
>
> > Tim
>
>
>
>
>
> I was happy with the changes except for  a definition of options =E2=80=
=93 which
> Juergen provided
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------
>
> <TAC> Ok - I didn't catch the linkage to the term parameter; that when we
> use it in the draft, the term as a link to an option...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de
> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>]
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 2:23 AM
>
> To: Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <timothy.carey@nokia.com>
>
> Cc: Weil, Jason <jason.weil@twcable.com>
>
> Subject: Re: Review of the LMAP Information Model
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 09:56:47PM +0000, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US)
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > - Yes, the information does not define the parameters aka options of
>
> >   tasks. Hence you can't find this flag in the information model.
>
> > <TAC> My point is that people might be looking for this in the
> information model. Maybe just let them know its an option like:
>
> >
>
> > Reporting Task might also have a flag parameter, defined as an Option,
>
> > to indicate whether to send a report without measurement results if
>
> > there is no measurement result data pending to be transferred to the
> Collector.
>
> >
>
>
>
> I just searched for 'parameter' in the text it seems there are several
> places where we do not specifically indicate that parameters are
> represented as options in the information model. But then we do have text
> that clarifies this in some places, e.g. the definition of ma-task-obj sa=
ys:
>
>
>
>    [...] Options allow the configuration of task
>
>    parameters (in the form of name-value pairs).
>
>
>
> If we want to clarify this more generally earlier in the text, then it
> might seem more useful to change the second item 3. in section 3:
>
>
>
> OLD
>
>
>
>    3.  Task Configurations.  A set of Task Configurations is used to
>
>        configure the Tasks that are run by the MA.  This includes the
>
>        registry entries for the Task and any configuration parameters.
>
>        Task Configurations are referenced from a Schedule in order to
>
>        specify what Tasks the MA should execute.
>
>
>
> NEW
>
>
>
>    3.  Task Configurations.  A set of Task Configurations is used to
>
>        configure the Tasks that are run by the MA.  This includes the
>
>        registry entries for the Task and any configuration parameters,
>
>        represented as Task Options. Task Configurations are referenced
>
>        from a Schedule in order to specify what Tasks the MA should
>
>        execute.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> /js
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:38 PM
> *To:* Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <timothy.carey@nokia.com>
> *Cc:* lmap@ietf.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
>
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Can you share the comments on the mail list? If I missed them - can you
> point to the message? We were not planning a new revision of the IM - so =
we
> need to get consensus on the changes.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) <
> timothy.carey@nokia.com> wrote:
>
> Dan,
>
>
>
> I provided comments to Juergen which I believe is expected to go into a
> new revision of the IM.
>
>
>
> I do not know of IP relevant to this document.
>
> BBF plans to define a TR-069 data model based on the IM defined in this
> document.
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan Romascanu [mailto:dromasca@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 6:11 AM
> *To:* lmap@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
>
>
>
> The WGLC concluded. There were no comments. Taking silence as consensus w=
e
> shall go ahead and prepare the submission for to the IESG.
>
> At this point we would request the WG participants:
>
> 1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectual Property relevant t=
o
> this document
>
> 2. to let us know if there are any implementations or plans to implement
> the IM defined in this document
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
> This message starts an LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-13
> - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model/.
>
> Please let us know if you believe that this document is ready to be sent
> to the IESG for consideration as Proposed Standards. It's OK to state tha=
t
> the document is just fine, it's even better to let us know if you have
> concerns and comments to improve and detail them. Messages about
> implementations or plans to implement are also welcome. Please send these
> before Monday December 5, 2016.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jason and Dan
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Thanks, Tim!<br><br></div>Does an=
ybody have any reservation about these changes? <br><br></div>If yes, pleas=
e let us know immediately on the lmap mail list. <br></div>If not, Juergen =
will issue a revised version of the IM in a couple of days. <br><br></div>R=
egards,<br><br></div>Dan<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Carey, Timothy (Noki=
a - US) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timothy.carey@nokia.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">timothy.carey@nokia.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">





<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Dan,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">They were comments embedded in the PDF version of t=
he document.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Here was the resulting messages from Juergen and my=
self =E2=80=93 you can see in the diff; the changes were editorial<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">------------------------------<wbr>----------------=
--------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>---------------------=
---------<wbr>------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">Thanks Tim. I have made a c=
ouple of edits. See here for a diff:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://www.beadg=
.de/draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-14-from-3.diff.html" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.beadg.de/draft-<wbr>ietf-lmap-information-model-<wbr>14-from-3=
.diff.html</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">- I did not remove the logg=
ing examples; they may not be tremendously<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 useful but then I li=
ke to minimize the edits.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">- Order of options and RFC =
2119 language: There are many things in<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 this document that I=
 think are normative but where we do not use RFC<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 2119 language. It wo=
uld be a major effort to go through the document<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 and put RFC 2119 lan=
guage everywhere where we say something<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 normative. Not sure =
I am keen on doing this until I am forced to do<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 so. (There are actua=
lly only two MUST - both related to timestamp<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 formats.)<u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">- The text about order of o=
ptions may look duplicate but then the text<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 is once for the repo=
rt and once for the schedule, i.e. action<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 invocation. I do not=
 think this duplication is harmful.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">- Yes, the information does=
 not define the parameters aka options of<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 tasks. Hence you can=
&#39;t find this flag in the information model.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">/js<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 07:=
57:56PM +0000, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; Juergen,<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; FYI - I did a review o=
f the LMAP IM - My comments are attached. I didn&#39;t see any problems in =
the information model - just some editorial comments.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; Merry Christmas<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; Tim<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I was happy with the changes except for =C2=A0a def=
inition of options =E2=80=93 which Juergen provided<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">------------------------------<wbr>-----------------=
-------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>----------------------=
--------<wbr>-----------------------<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&lt;TAC&gt; Ok - I didn&#39=
;t catch the linkage to the term parameter; that when we use it in the draf=
t, the term as a link to an option...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<=
u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">From: Juergen Schoenwaelder=
 [<a href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" target=3D"_blank"=
>mailto:j.schoenwaelder@<wbr>jacobs-university.de</a>]<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">Sent: Thursday, December 08=
, 2016 2:23 AM<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">To: Carey, Timothy (Nokia -=
 US) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timothy.carey@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">timot=
hy.carey@nokia.com</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"DE">Cc: Weil,=
 Jason &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:jason.weil@twcable.com" target=3D"_blan=
k"><span lang=3D"DE">jason.weil@twcable.com</span></a><span lang=3D"DE">&gt=
;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: Review of the =
LMAP Information Model<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 09:=
56:47PM +0000, Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; - Yes, the information=
 does not define the parameters aka options of<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0 tasks. Hen=
ce you can&#39;t find this flag in the information model.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; &lt;TAC&gt; My point i=
s that people might be looking for this in the information model. Maybe jus=
t let them know its an option like:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; Reporting Task might a=
lso have a flag parameter, defined as an Option,
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; to indicate whether to=
 send a report without measurement results if
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt; there is no measuremen=
t result data pending to be transferred to the Collector.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">I just searched for &#39;pa=
rameter&#39; in the text it seems there are several places where we do not =
specifically indicate that parameters are represented as options in the inf=
ormation model. But then we do have text that clarifies this in
 some places, e.g. the definition of ma-task-obj says:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0 [...] Options =
allow the configuration of task<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0 parameters (in=
 the form of name-value pairs).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">If we want to clarify this =
more generally earlier in the text, then it might seem more useful to chang=
e the second item 3. in section 3:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">OLD<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.=C2=A0 Task =
Configurations.=C2=A0 A set of Task Configurations is used to<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 configure the Tasks that are run by the MA.=C2=A0 This includes t=
he<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 registry entries for the Task and any configuration parameters.<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Task Configurations are referenced from a Schedule in order to<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 specify what Tasks the MA should execute.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">NEW<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.=C2=A0 Task =
Configurations.=C2=A0 A set of Task Configurations is used to<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 configure the Tasks that are run by the MA.=C2=A0 This includes t=
he<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 registry entries for the Task and any configuration parameters,<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 represented as Task Options. Task Configurations are referenced<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 from a Schedule in order to specify what Tasks the MA should<u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 execute.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">What do you think?<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-9165455619891056818MsoPlainText">/js<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">------------------------------<wbr>----------------=
--------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>---------------------=
---------<wbr>-----------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Dan Romascanu [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2016 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carey, Timothy (Nokia - US) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timothy.carey@=
nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">timothy.carey@nokia.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lmap@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lmap@ietf.org=
</a></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-<wbr>model-=
13<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Tim,<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Can you share the com=
ments on the mail list? If I missed them - can you point to the message? We=
 were not planning a new revision of the IM - so we need to get consensus o=
n the changes.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks and Regards,<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Carey, Timothy (No=
kia - US) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:timothy.carey@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">=
timothy.carey@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Dan,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I provided comments to Juergen which I believe is e=
xpected to go into a new revision of the IM.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I do not know of IP relevant to this document.</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">BBF plans to define a TR-069 data model based on th=
e IM defined in this document.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">BR,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Tim</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Dan Romascanu [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2016 6:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lmap@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lmap@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [lmap] WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-<wbr>model-=
13</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The WGLC concluded. T=
here were no comments. Taking silence as consensus we shall go ahead and pr=
epare the submission for to the IESG.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">At this point we woul=
d request the WG participants:
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1. to let us know if there are any known Intellectua=
l Property relevant to this document<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">2. to let us know if =
there are any implementations or plans to implement the IM defined in this =
document<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks and Regards,<u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Dan Romascanu &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dromasca@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">This message starts a=
n LMAP WGLC for draft-ietf-lmap-information-<wbr>model-13 -
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lmap-information-mod=
el/" target=3D"_blank">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-lmap-<wbr>information-mode=
l/</a>. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Please let us know if=
 you believe that this document is ready to be sent to the IESG for conside=
ration as Proposed Standards. It&#39;s OK to state that the document is jus=
t fine, it&#39;s even
 better to let us know if you have concerns and comments to improve and det=
ail them. Messages about implementations or plans to implement are also wel=
come. Please send these before Monday December 5, 2016.
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks and Regards,
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jason and Dan<u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div></div></div>
</div>

</blockquote></div><br></div>

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This draft is a work item of the Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance of the IETF.

        Title           : Information Model for Large-Scale Measurement Platforms (LMAP)
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Abstract:
   This Information Model applies to the Measurement Agent within a
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Hi Juergen.

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On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 04:55:11PM -0200, Holger Wiehen wrote:
> Hi Juergen.
> 
> I remember, at IETF-96 Berlin, you demonstrated a C implementation of the LMAP information model.
> 
> At NIC.br <http://nic.br/> we would be very interested to contribute to a LMAP reference implementation under an Open Source license.
> 
> Do you plan to publish your code in the near future?
>

Hi Holger,

I have put a snapshot of my code on <https://github.com/schoenw/lmapd>.

/js

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Hi,

I found an inconsistency. The information model says that result is
carrying the union of the tag values defined for the task, the
schedule, and the action. The description of the tag object in the
YANG module does not capture this. Hence, I suggest this fix:

OLD

           leaf-list tag {
             type lmap:tag;
             description
               "A tag contains additional information that is passed
                with the result record to the collector. This is the
                joined set of tags defined for the task object and the
                action object. A tag can be used to carry the
		Measurement Cycle ID.";
           }

NEW

           leaf-list tag {
             type lmap:tag;
             description
               "A tag contains additional information that is passed
                with the result record to the collector. This is the
                joined set of tags defined for the task object, the
		schedule object, and the action object. A tag can be
		used to carry the Measurement Cycle ID.";
           }

/js

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Hi,

both specifications (the information model and the YANG data model) do
not talk about the timezone used to calculate the cycle number. Since
the idea of the cycle number is to provide a predictable number, I
think the cycle number should be required to be in GMT (aka UTC).

/js

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> Hi,
>=20
> both specifications (the information model and the YANG data model) do
> not talk about the timezone used to calculate the cycle number. Since
> the idea of the cycle number is to provide a predictable number, I
> think the cycle number should be required to be in GMT (aka UTC).
>=20
[ACM]=20
Yes, UTC please.
Al



> /js
>=20
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Hi Juergen.

Thank you very much.
I hope to run the code soon.


Holger Wiehen.


> On 17 Dec 2016, at 06:46, Juergen Schoenwaelder =
<j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 04:55:11PM -0200, Holger Wiehen wrote:
>> Hi Juergen.
>>=20
>> I remember, at IETF-96 Berlin, you demonstrated a C implementation of =
the LMAP information model.
>>=20
>> At NIC.br <http://nic.br/> we would be very interested to contribute =
to a LMAP reference implementation under an Open Source license.
>>=20
>> Do you plan to publish your code in the near future?
>>=20
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> Hi Holger,
>=20
> I have put a snapshot of my code on =
<https://github.com/schoenw/lmapd>.
>=20
> /js
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Hi,

I have put diffs here:

http://www.beadg.de/lmap/

/js

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 01:41:30PM +0000, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen
> > Schoenwaelder
> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 2:45 AM
> > To: lmap@ietf.org
> > Subject: [lmap] cycle number timezone clarification
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > both specifications (the information model and the YANG data model) do
> > not talk about the timezone used to calculate the cycle number. Since
> > the idea of the cycle number is to provide a predictable number, I
> > think the cycle number should be required to be in GMT (aka UTC).
> > 
> [ACM] 
> Yes, UTC please.
> Al
> 
> 
> 
> > /js
> > 
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> > Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
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