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Folks,

Please email Ran/myself with items for the agenda.

MSEC is scheduled for:

   THURSDAY, August 5, 2004
   0900-1130 Morning Sessions	
   SEC  msec       Multicast Security WG

Regards.

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Folks,

Here is the MSEC Agenda for San Diego as of today.  

MSEC WG Agenda IETF-60 San Diego:
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  - Ideas on Data Source Authentication (Atul Sharma)
  - TESLA in SRTP (Elisabetta Carrara)
  - RSA signatures, Anti-Replay, ESP (Brian Weis)
  - Update on mikey-dhhmac (Steffen Fries)
  - GSAKMP Policy Token update (Hugh Harney)
  - IPsec mapping for GSAKMP (George Gross)
  - MSEC timeline and (re)charter  (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)

Please email Ran/Thomas for corrections/additions.

Note that at the moment MSEC will meet on:

   THURSDAY, August 5, 2004
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Hi,

We've submitted an (individual) draft to MAGMA, entitled:

"Trust Models and Security in Multicast Listener Discovery"

While this draft is submitted to another WG, there
may be overlap in interest from MSEC members (and it
was suggested that we might announce here).

Abstract:

  The Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) is used by IPv6 routers to
  discover the presence of multicast listeners (i.e.  nodes that wish
  to receive multicast packets) on their directly attached links, and
  to discover which multicast addresses are of interest to those
  neighbouring nodes.  The existing protocol specification (MLDv2)
  discusses the effects of on-link forgery of MLD packets but provides
  no protection from on-link attacks.

  By taking advantage of or abusing Multicast Listener Discovery, bogus
  devices may cause incorrect state and disruption to multicast or
  unicast packet delivery.  This memo considers the trust models for
  the MLD protocols, and their interaction as well as their interaction
  with link-layer and multicast proxy devices.  It provides a security
  and threat analysis for each model.

This draft should appear in the repository soon,
but is currently available from:

http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/ipv6/draft-daley-magma-smld-prob-00.txt

A notice will also be going to the MAGMA WG (so apologies if
you receive this twice).

Greg and Gopi

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are you requesting a slot to present this at the msec meeting or will it be 
presented somewhere else in San Diego?

Mark
At 06:10 PM 7/11/2004, Greg Daley wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We've submitted an (individual) draft to MAGMA, entitled:
>
>"Trust Models and Security in Multicast Listener Discovery"
>
>While this draft is submitted to another WG, there
>may be overlap in interest from MSEC members (and it
>was suggested that we might announce here).
>
>Abstract:
>
>  The Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) is used by IPv6 routers to
>  discover the presence of multicast listeners (i.e.  nodes that wish
>  to receive multicast packets) on their directly attached links, and
>  to discover which multicast addresses are of interest to those
>  neighbouring nodes.  The existing protocol specification (MLDv2)
>  discusses the effects of on-link forgery of MLD packets but provides
>  no protection from on-link attacks.
>
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Hi Mark,

I'm not requesting a slot, but attempting to
raise awareness of something which has been
submitted to MAGMA.

If it's more appropriate for this to be
dealt with in MSEC (or needs input from MSEC),
then that's possibly worth discussing.

At this stage there's no confirmation that it
will be in MAGMA's session, but there is some
chance depending on interest.

Greg Daley

Mark Baugher wrote:
> are you requesting a slot to present this at the msec meeting or will it 
> be presented somewhere else in San Diego?
> 
> Mark
> At 06:10 PM 7/11/2004, Greg Daley wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> We've submitted an (individual) draft to MAGMA, entitled:
>>
>> "Trust Models and Security in Multicast Listener Discovery"
>>
>> While this draft is submitted to another WG, there
>> may be overlap in interest from MSEC members (and it
>> was suggested that we might announce here).
>>
>> Abstract:
>>
>>  The Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) is used by IPv6 routers to
>>  discover the presence of multicast listeners (i.e.  nodes that wish
>>  to receive multicast packets) on their directly attached links, and
>>  to discover which multicast addresses are of interest to those
>>  neighbouring nodes.  The existing protocol specification (MLDv2)
>>  discusses the effects of on-link forgery of MLD packets but provides
>>  no protection from on-link attacks.
>>
>>  By taking advantage of or abusing Multicast Listener Discovery, bogus
>>  devices may cause incorrect state and disruption to multicast or
>>  unicast packet delivery.  This memo considers the trust models for
>>  the MLD protocols, and their interaction as well as their interaction
>>  with link-layer and multicast proxy devices.  It provides a security
>>  and threat analysis for each model.
>>
>> This draft should appear in the repository soon,
>> but is currently available from:
>>
>> http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/ipv6/draft-daley-magma-smld-prob-00.txt
>>
>> A notice will also be going to the MAGMA WG (so apologies if
>> you receive this twice).
>>
>> Greg and Gopi
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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Thanks, Greg.

You're most welcome to present the work in MSEC.

It would be an opportunity to raise questions/discussions regarding the 
draft and the appropriate home for your draft.

cheers,

thomas
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At 7/14/2004||08:02 PM, Greg Daley wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>
>I'm not requesting a slot, but attempting to
>raise awareness of something which has been
>submitted to MAGMA.
>
>If it's more appropriate for this to be
>dealt with in MSEC (or needs input from MSEC),
>then that's possibly worth discussing.
>
>At this stage there's no confirmation that it
>will be in MAGMA's session, but there is some
>chance depending on interest.
>
>Greg Daley
>
>Mark Baugher wrote:
>>are you requesting a slot to present this at the msec meeting or will it 
>>be presented somewhere else in San Diego?
>>Mark
>>At 06:10 PM 7/11/2004, Greg Daley wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>We've submitted an (individual) draft to MAGMA, entitled:
>>>
>>>"Trust Models and Security in Multicast Listener Discovery"
>>>
>>>While this draft is submitted to another WG, there
>>>may be overlap in interest from MSEC members (and it
>>>was suggested that we might announce here).
>>>
>>>Abstract:
>>>
>>>  The Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) is used by IPv6 routers to
>>>  discover the presence of multicast listeners (i.e.  nodes that wish
>>>  to receive multicast packets) on their directly attached links, and
>>>  to discover which multicast addresses are of interest to those
>>>  neighbouring nodes.  The existing protocol specification (MLDv2)
>>>  discusses the effects of on-link forgery of MLD packets but provides
>>>  no protection from on-link attacks.
>>>
>>>  By taking advantage of or abusing Multicast Listener Discovery, bogus
>>>  devices may cause incorrect state and disruption to multicast or
>>>  unicast packet delivery.  This memo considers the trust models for
>>>  the MLD protocols, and their interaction as well as their interaction
>>>  with link-layer and multicast proxy devices.  It provides a security
>>>  and threat analysis for each model.
>>>
>>>This draft should appear in the repository soon,
>>>but is currently available from:
>>>
>>>http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/ipv6/draft-daley-magma-smld-prob-00.txt
>>>
>>>A notice will also be going to the MAGMA WG (so apologies if
>>>you receive this twice).
>>>
>>>Greg and Gopi
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>msec@securemulticast.org
>>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec
>>
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Folks,

Here is the MSEC Agenda for San Diego as of today.

Note that we have been listed to be on Monday and Thursday in the IETF draft
agenda.

MSEC WG Agenda IETF-60 San Diego:
---------------------------------
  - Ideas on Data Source Authentication (Atul Sharma)
  - TESLA in SRTP (Elisabetta Carrara)
  - RSA signatures, Anti-Replay, ESP (Brian Weis)
  - Update on mikey-dhhmac (Steffen Fries)
  - GSAKMP Policy Token update (Hugh Harney)
  - IPsec mapping for GSAKMP (George Gross)
  - MSEC timeline and (re)charter  (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)

Please email Ran/Thomas for corrections/additions.

Note that at the moment MSEC will meet on:

   MONDAY, August 2, 2004
   0900-1130 Morning Sessions 
   SEC  msec       Multicast Security WG

   THURSDAY, August 5, 2004
   0900-1130 Morning Sessions
   SEC  msec       Multicast Security WG


Regards,

Thomas/Ran
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Folks,

I just spoke to the ietf-Agenda folks.  MSEC is on Monday only. (Thu was a
typo).

Here is the MSEC Agenda for San Diego as of today.

MSEC WG Agenda IETF-60 San Diego:
---------------------------------
  - Ideas on Data Source Authentication (Atul Sharma)
  - TESLA in SRTP (Elisabetta Carrara)
  - RSA signatures, Anti-Replay, ESP (Brian Weis)
  - Update on mikey-dhhmac (Steffen Fries)
  - GSAKMP Policy Token update (Hugh Harney)
  - IPsec mapping for GSAKMP (George Gross)
  - MSEC timeline and (re)charter  (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)

Please email Ran/Thomas for corrections/additions.

Note that at the moment MSEC will meet on:

   MONDAY, August 2, 2004
   0900-1130 Morning Sessions 
   SEC  msec       Multicast Security WG


Regards,

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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	Title		: The Use of TESLA in SRTP
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Folks,

Here is the MSEC Agenda for San Diego as of today.  
Note that currently MSEC is scheduled for the Monday morning.


MSEC WG Agenda IETF-60 San Diego:
---------------------------------
  - Status report, and Future of MSEC (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)
  - Ideas on Data Source Authentication (Atul Sharma)
  - TESLA in SRTP (Elisabetta Carrara)
  - RSA signatures, Anti-Replay, ESP (Brian Weis)
  - Update on mikey-dhhmac (Steffen Fries)
  - GSAKMP Policy Token update (Hugh Harney)
  - IPsec mapping for GSAKMP (George Gross)
  - GDOI Proof of Possession (Cathy Meadows)

Please email Ran/Thomas for corrections/additions.

Note that at the moment MSEC will meet on:

   MONDAY, August 2, 2004
   0900-1130 Morning Sessions 
   SEC  msec       Multicast Security WG


Regards,

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Folks,

Here is the MSEC Agenda for San Diego as of today.  
Note that currently MSEC is scheduled for the Monday morning.


MSEC WG Agenda IETF-60 San Diego:
---------------------------------
  - Status report (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)
  - TESLA draft update (Ran Canetti)
  - TESLA in SRTP (Elisabetta Carrara)
  - Ideas on Data Source Authentication (Atul Sharma)
  - RSA signatures, Anti-Replay, ESP (Brian Weis)
  - Update on mikey-dhhmac (Steffen Fries)
  - GSAKMP Policy Token update (Hugh Harney)
  - IPsec mapping for GSAKMP (George Gross)
  - GDOI Proof of Possession (Cathy Meadows)
  - Open Discussions:
    - MSEC future directions (Thomas Hardjono/Ran Canetti)
    - GSEC discussion (Lakshminath Dondeti/Pete Dinsmore)


Please email Ran/Thomas for corrections/additions.

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Hi all,

A while ago, we had a discussion on the list about GDOIv2 and there was 
general interest in writing that up.  Here is my attempt at that spec: 
it is a -00-, so it is short on detail, just offering a sketch of what 
the protocol might look like.  As I recall Brian Weis was interested in 
it; other contributors are welcome, of course.  I have a brief time slot 
to discuss this at the San Diego meeting, but feel free to send comments 
to the list meanwhile.

thanks,
Lakshminath

http://home.comcast.net/~ldondeti/gdoiv2-00.xml
http://home.comcast.net/~ldondeti/draft-dondeti-msec-gdoiv2-00.txt
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