From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Fri May 18 10:30:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9765B21F8700; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.678, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PaMxxEIL2r26; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfcpa.amsl.com [12.22.58.47]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F29A21F86FE; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D4FEEB1E00D; Fri, 18 May 2012 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20120518172738.D4FEEB1E00D@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: multimob@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [multimob] RFC 6636 on Tuning the Behavior of the Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) for Routers in Mobile and Wireless Networks X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:30:29 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6636 Title: Tuning the Behavior of the Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) for Routers in Mobile and Wireless Networks Author: H. Asaeda, H. Liu, Q. Wu Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: May 2012 Mailbox: asaeda@wide.ad.jp, helen.liu@huawei.com, bill.wu@huawei.com Pages: 12 Characters: 30261 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-multimob-igmp-mld-tuning-06.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6636.txt The Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) are the protocols used by hosts and multicast routers to exchange their IP multicast group memberships with each other. This document describes ways to achieve IGMPv3 and MLDv2 protocol optimization for mobility and aims to become a guideline for the tuning of IGMPv3/MLDv2 Queries, timers, and counter values. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue May 22 07:30:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3448521F8623; Tue, 22 May 2012 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.269 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.330, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0RXI9bS2eGfL; Tue, 22 May 2012 07:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B0B21F8568; Tue, 22 May 2012 07:30:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.02 Message-ID: <20120522143028.25653.53725.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:30:28 -0700 Cc: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 14:30:29 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of t= he IETF. Title : PMIPv6 multicast handover optimization by the Subscripti= on Information Acquisition through the LMA (SIAL) Author(s) : Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Ignacio Soto Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2012-05-22 This document specifies a multicast handover optimization mechanism for Proxy Mobile IPv6 to accelerate the delivery of multicast traffic to mobile nodes after handovers. The mechanism is based on speeding up the acquisition of mobile nodes' active multicast subscriptions information by the mobile access gateways. To do that, extensions to the current Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol are proposed. These extensions are not only applicable to the base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but also can be applied to other solutions envisioned as possible architectural evolutions of it. Furthermore, they are also independent of the role played by the mobile access gateway within the multicast network (either acting as multicast listener discovery proxy or multicast router). 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Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac04J4VJzOPKRUuKRNijixEBpzahXwAAYegQAWF3ptA= Message-ID: <05C81A773E48DD49B181B04BA21A342A27A427E5A8@HE113484.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <20120522143028.25653.53725.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:02:54 -0000 Dear Luis, all Sorry for my delayed response. I am fine with your porposal, thanks for tha= t. As suggested I'd like to propose some text for an annex on performance comparison betwee= n both proactive, reactive SIAL and RFC 6224 in terms of amount and length = (# of Bytes) of messages exchanged between MN and MAG, and between MAG and = LMA, and the impact on expected end-to-end delay (between service stop at s= tart of HO and service resumption at HO completion) for different typical m= esssage exchange delays on MN-MAG and MAG-LMA path (same for LMA-pMAGand LM= A-nMAG). Hope this is what you also had in mind, otherwise please correct m= e. As a first approach I would assume - 4 msgs with 84 bytes length on MN-MAG and 3 msgs with 64 B on LMA-MAG for= RFC 6224, - 2 msgs with 92 bytes length on MN-MAG and 5 msgs with 65.2 B on LMA-MAG f= or proactive SIAL, - 2 msgs with 92 bytes length on MN-MAG and 5 msgs with 76 B on LMA-MAG for= reactive SIAL. (I'll have to check whether those data are still valid since I compiled the= m some time ago) Corresponding to your paper (Contreras L. M., Bernardos, C. J., and I. Soto= , "RAMS: A Protocol Extension to PMIPv6 for Improving Handover Performance = of Multicast Traffic", Journal of Wireless Mobile Networks, Ubiquitous Comp= uting, and Dependable Applications, Vol. 2, No. 2, pp. 67-82, 2011) I would= suggest to consider an average MN-MAG delay of 65.3 ms (UTRAN) and the bac= khaul (MAG-LMA) delay of 5 ms. However for LTE also lower RAN delay of 5 ms could be assumed. Do you think that makes sense? Best regards Dirk -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: multimob-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multimob-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftra= g von LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 16:57 An: multimob@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.tx= t Dear colleagues, We have produced the -00 version of the WG draft on fast handover. Some comments received on the list have not been yet addressed so far, but = our intention is to include the following material in -01 version once disc= ussed/agreed on the list: .- Hitoshi's comments regarding MLD filter information: we plan to include = the MLD filter information on the messages to help the nMAG to get knowledg= e of the MN's on-going subscription. The original idea of the draft was to = optimize (if possible) the information passed among entities by transferrin= g the minimal information to help during the handover process. In our opini= on it is worthy to explore that way, but including the MLD filter informati= on can be seen as the regular solution. .- Hitoshi's comment on message format conforming RFC3810: this is linked w= ith the comment above, and it would be addressed, as well. .- Hitoshi's comment on RAMS acronym: we have already changed from RAMS to = SIAL =3D Subscription Information Acquisition through the LMA to avoid conf= usion with RAMS meaning on the context of the AVT, and to better address th= e nature of the solution, providing space to further solutions based on MAG= to MAG direct communication. .- Dirk's comment on performance evaluation: we are open to include some co= mparison to RFC6224 as guideline for solution deployment. Apologies if we have left some comment not yet covered. Of course, any new comment is more than welcome. Thanks in advance, Best regards, Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: multimob-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multimob-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre = de internet-drafts@ietf.org Enviado el: martes, 22 de mayo de 2012 16:30 Para: i-d-announce@ietf.org CC: multimob@ietf.org Asunto: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of t= he IETF. Title : PMIPv6 multicast handover optimization by the Sub= scription Information Acquisition through the LMA (SIAL) Author(s) : Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Ignacio Soto Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt Pages : 37 Date : 2012-05-22 This document specifies a multicast handover optimization mechanism for Proxy Mobile IPv6 to accelerate the delivery of multicast traffic to mobile nodes after handovers. The mechanism is based on speeding up the acquisition of mobile nodes' active multicast subscriptions information by the mobile access gateways. To do that, extensions to the current Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol are proposed. These extensions are not only applicable to the base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but also can be applied to other solutions envisioned as possible architectural evolutions of it. Furthermore, they are also independent of the role played by the mobile access gateway within the multicast network (either acting as multicast listener discovery proxy or multicast router). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.tx= t Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-00.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover/ _______________________________________________ multimob mailing list multimob@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/multimob Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nu= estra pol=EDtica de env=EDo y recepci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico en el enl= ace situado m=E1s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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