From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Wed Feb 3 05:35:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36A33A6884 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:35:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DVcHaRbmtB59 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665B93A683A for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.47]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DC6C0002; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:36:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RYyDavTzeA7P; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:36:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F36EC000C; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:36:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E0EC2102FD47; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:36:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:36:16 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Ladislav Lhotka Message-ID: <20100203133616.GA813@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Ladislav Lhotka , NETMOD Working Group References: <1264094173.5406.64.camel@missotis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1264094173.5406.64.camel@missotis> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: NETMOD Working Group Subject: Re: [netmod] review of yang-types X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:35:51 -0000 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 06:16:13PM +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > I reviewed the document, especially concentrating on the regular > expressions. My comments: > > 1. In several cases, the expressions use superfluous parentheses which > make the expressions longer and less comprehensible. I think they should > be removed. For example: > OLD > typedef object-identifier { > type string { > pattern '(([0-1](\.[1-3]?[0-9]))|(2\.(0|([1-9]\d*))))' > + '(\.(0|([1-9]\d*)))*'; > } > NEW > typedef object-identifier { > type string { > pattern '([01]\.[1-3]?[0-9]|2\.(0|[1-9]\d*))(\.(0|[1-9]\d*))*'; > } Too few parenthesese can hurt readability since the reader needs to remember precedences well to understand an expression. I included some superfluous parentheses in an attempt to make the idea behind the expression more clear. But I understand that this is debatable. > 2. In the pattern for object-identifier-128, the dot should be escaped: > OLD > typedef object-identifier-128 { > type object-identifier { > pattern '\d*(.\d*){1,127}'; > } > NEW > typedef object-identifier-128 { > type object-identifier { > pattern '\d*(\.\d*){1,127}'; > } fixed > 3. Another minor simplification (the sign for timezone): > OLD > typedef date-and-time { > type string { > pattern '\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}T\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}(\.\d+)?' > + '(Z|(\+|-)\d{2}:\d{2})'; > } > NEW > typedef date-and-time { > type string { > pattern '\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}T\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}(\.\d+)?' > + '(Z|[\-+]\d{2}:\d{2})'; > } > > (This pattern is rather lax, but I guess it is intentional.) changed - saves a character :-) > 4. phys-address - is it correct that it is allowed to be empty? This is what the corresponding SMIv2 type allows and it is easy to exclude zero length addresses when the type is used as needed. > 5. The pattern for ipv4-address doesn't allow leading zeros in any of > the four octets, for example, this doesn't match: 127.000.000.001. Yes, I think this is by intention. > Moreover, the pattern is unnecessarily complicated. I propose to use the > same pattern as is used later for ipv4-prefix: > OLD > typedef ipv4-address { > type string { > pattern '((0' > + '|(1[0-9]{0,2})' > + '|(2(([0-4][0-9]?)|(5[0-5]?)|([6-9]?)))' > + '|([3-9][0-9]?)' > + ')' > + '\.){3}' > + '(0' > + '|(1[0-9]{0,2})' > + '|(2(([0-4][0-9]?)|(5[0-5]?)|([6-9]?)))' > + '|([3-9][0-9]?)' > + ')(%[\p{N}\p{L}]+)?'; > } > NEW > typedef ipv4-address { > type string { > pattern '((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9]?[0-9])\.){3}' > + '(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9]?[0-9])' > + '(%[\p{N}\p{L}]+)?'; > } I agree. For consistency with the ipv4-prefix pattern, I will use: type string { pattern '(([0-1]?[0-9]?[0-9]|2[0-4][0-9]|25[0-5])\.){3}' + '([0-1]?[0-9]?[0-9]|2[0-4][0-9]|25[0-5])' + '(%[\p{N}\p{L}]+)?'; } > 6. An isolated dot "." matches the pattern for domain-name. I understand > it is used e.g. in DNS zone files, but IMO it is the same case as the > zero value for port-number and should be handled via a union where > appropriate. We got DNS expert advice for this TC and we were told that allowing . to match the root is a feature. Concerning port-number, I meanwhile believe not allowing 0 is a bad idea. Not only does this make port-number different from InetPortNumber (means the current statement that they are similar is wrong), it also makes using the type more difficult. It is easy to exclude values, adding a zero via a union however is a relatively complex procedure. If we need a nonzero-port-number type, we could easily derive it from port-number (like we can easily derive a nonroot-domain-name from domain-name). I will change the definition of port-number. > 7. In the descriptions of gauge32 and gauge64: > s/can not/cannot/ fixed /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From root@core3.amsl.com Wed Feb 3 05:45:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@ietf.org Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 3D2803A692C; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100203134502.3D2803A692C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] I-D Action:draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-06.txt X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:45:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-02-03053429.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From david.partain@ericsson.com Thu Feb 4 01:59:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378F3A6BDE for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 01:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qCQ1gK9DGqj8 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 01:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6B3A6ADD for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 01:59:05 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7b85ae00000097d-23-4b6a9a952cad Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 91.A6.02429.59A9A6B4; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:59:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.172]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:59:49 +0100 Received: from selic023.lmera.ericsson.se ([150.132.89.214]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:59:49 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: netmod@ietf.org Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:59:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100118072110.GA44023@elstar.local> <4B573F1E.5050603@iwl.com> In-Reply-To: <4B573F1E.5050603@iwl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002041059.48573.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2010 09:59:49.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9A151B0:01CAA580] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [netmod] revisit 'real' typedef in yang-types-05 X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:59:06 -0000 On Wednesday 20 January 2010 18.36.30 Andy Bierman wrote: > David Spakes wrote: > > When float32 and float64 were replaced with decimal64, YANG document > > writers lost the ability to represent data having variable-length > > precision. My entire purpose for creating the 'real' typedef was to > > give that choice back to YANG document writers. > > > > Even if the 'real' typedef can't be used for XPath, is there a compelling > > argument to leave the 'real' typedef out of yang-types-05? There are > > probably other applications for it that this working group can't > > anticipate. I would like to propose one more time that we should add the > > 'real' typedef to yang-types-05 for the sake of those applications. > > We can always extend this module, or create > a new module later. I prefer that the YANG drafts > to go to the IESG ASAP, so we can get started on some content > and an access control model. I completely agree with Andy. Cheers, David From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Thu Feb 11 00:37:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C72228C103 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.914 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.914 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.079, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V9CbzeRWogVk for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951E83A7243 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.49]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C155BC0031; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:38:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZJ6-Po4eEq2p; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:38:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0D2C0008; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:38:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id EA9BB1054F7A; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:38:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:38:44 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: David Partain , david.kessens@nsn.com Message-ID: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: David Partain , david.kessens@nsn.com, netmod@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] working group status X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:37:49 -0000 Hi, I am wondering where we are and what the next steps are. We have last called YANG and the YANG data types documents and there are new revisions in place. Do the chairs plan to submit them to the IESG any time soon? Or do the chairs believe that are open issues left? If so, which ones? What about starting WG last call on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage-03? And what will happen to draft-ietf-netmod-arch-02, which expired recently? I believe we are close to be done with our core documents and should try to bring up the energy to do the final steps to deliver things. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From lhotka@cesnet.cz Thu Feb 11 01:08:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA343A7683 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:08:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxQ6GJHblEHK for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851653A69DA for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 918AF2CDE055; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:10:09 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: Juergen Schoenwaelder In-Reply-To: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> References: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: CESNET Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:10:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1265879408.10851.6.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] working group status X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:08:58 -0000 Juergen Schoenwaelder píše v Čt 11. 02. 2010 v 09:38 +0100: > Hi, > > I am wondering where we are and what the next steps are. We have last > called YANG and the YANG data types documents and there are new > revisions in place. Do the chairs plan to submit them to the IESG any > time soon? Or do the chairs believe that are open issues left? If so, > which ones? > > What about starting WG last call on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage-03? > And what will happen to draft-ietf-netmod-arch-02, which expired > recently? > > I believe we are close to be done with our core documents and should > try to bring up the energy to do the final steps to deliver things. The DSDL mapping draft is also essentially finished, I plan to submit a new revision with few minor changes till the end of February and have it fully implemented in pyang before IETF 77. Lada > > /js > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From david.kessens@nsn.com Thu Feb 11 16:13:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135BF3A7624 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LSCZVv2Uu+jN for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FAB3A6816 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o1C0EY2g028235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:34 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([10.138.48.89]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o1C0EXbS012527; Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:14:33 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1C0EWcQ006328; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:32 -0800 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1C0EWol006327; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:32 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: david set sender to david.kessens@nsn.com using -f Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:14:32 -0800 From: David Kessens To: netmod@ietf.org Message-ID: <20100212001431.GE4539@nsn.com> References: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-08-17) Subject: Re: [netmod] working group status X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:13:23 -0000 Juergen, On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > I am wondering where we are and what the next steps are. We have last > called YANG and the YANG data types documents and there are new > revisions in place. Do the chairs plan to submit them to the IESG any > time soon? Yes, we were doing our own review and the document writeup that is required before submitting the documents to the IESG. > What about starting WG last call on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage-03? > And what will happen to draft-ietf-netmod-arch-02, which expired > recently? We haven't decided on this yet but our general plan has been to do this rather sooner than later and at the same time to avoid doing multiple last calls at the same time. Comments on preferences for order/timing are always welcome. David Kessens --- From andyb@iwl.com Mon Feb 15 08:46:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FA128C1D5 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:46:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkfsWNXTpeJm for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp145.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp145.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4673628C1C6 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07CDA1B4079; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay24.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: andyb-AT-iwlcorp.com) with ESMTPSA id BD78B1B408B; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:47:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B797AC0.4000707@iwl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:48:00 -0800 From: Andy Bierman Organization: Interworking Labs, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NETCONF , NETMOD Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [netmod] create and delete operations on default values X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: andyb@iwl.com List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:46:12 -0000 Hi, I understand that the NETMOD WG thinks it is important to treat leafs with the YANG default value as if they MUST NOT exist. IMO, this should be a vendor choice, but oh well. I think the 4741bis draft needs to explain how the create and delete operation is applied to leafs containing the schema default value. leaf foo { type int32; default 42; } It is not clear to me when a create operation on the /foo leaf is expected to succeed and when it expected to fail with a 'data-exists' error. - will it succeed if the server set this to 42? we know it will fail if a client already set it to 42. What about the same question for a delete operation? Does the server choose based on its 'basic' mode of the with-defaults capability? What if this capability is not supported? What if the behavior is not the same for every object in the database? If I have a module that was defined in SMIv2, XSD, RNG, or some other DML, then it seems I cannot reliably convert a default in that data model to YANG default-stmt. It seems advertising the YANG version instead of the XSD version will have an impact on NETCONF protocol operations. Andy From lhotka@cesnet.cz Thu Feb 18 06:22:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39043A7CE5 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:22:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.05 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.05 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e+ba+IFGrSSh for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184373A7B19 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EB6E2CDE057 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:23:57 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: NETMOD Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: CESNET Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <1266503036.8497.24.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [netmod] config in rpc and notifications X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:22:16 -0000 Hi, YANG draft says that 'config' statement is ignored on schema nodes under 'rpc' and 'notification' but it should also state that the config status for all such nodes is "false". The existing rules actually imply that it is "true" - rpc and notification nodes are top-level and don't specify 'config', so the default is "true" according to sec. 7.19.1. Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From lhotka@cesnet.cz Thu Feb 18 07:04:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7411F28C13D for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.650, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mDy9oziJax5p for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0B728C10F for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DA2B2CDE057 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:06:35 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: NETMOD Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: CESNET Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:06:34 +0100 Message-ID: <1266505594.8497.27.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [netmod] refine/augment in RPCs X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:04:56 -0000 Hi, is it possible to augment or refine stuff inside an rpc node? If so, how does one specify whether the target node is in the input or output part? Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From mbj@tail-f.com Thu Feb 18 11:45:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC4B3A8041 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:45:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XnJR59ytPICe for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tail-f.com (de-0316.d.ipeer.se [213.180.79.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220393A8042 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c213-100-167-236.swipnet.se [213.100.167.236]) by mail.tail-f.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8816561600D; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20100218.204652.112076214.mbj@tail-f.com> To: lhotka@cesnet.cz From: Martin Bjorklund In-Reply-To: <1266505594.8497.27.camel@missotis> References: <1266505594.8497.27.camel@missotis> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2.51 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] refine/augment in RPCs X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:45:11 -0000 Hi, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > is it possible to augment or refine stuff inside an rpc node? If so, how > does one specify whether the target node is in the input or output part? Yes you can augment inside a rpc. 7.13 says: The "rpc" statement defines an rpc node in the schema tree. Under the rpc node, an input node with the name "input", and an output node with the name "output" are also defined. So for example to add an optional parameter 'persist' to the 'commit' rpc you would do: import ietf-netconf { prefix nc; } augment /nc:commit/nc:input { leaf persist { ... } } /martin From andyb@iwl.com Thu Feb 18 12:08:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF95728C190 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:08:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.034 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.034 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.231, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3uuL+Ywcyns for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp155.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp155.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.155]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103F328C18A for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 783853EFFC6; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by relay5.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: andyb-AT-iwlcorp.com) with ESMTPSA id 0CC863F0186; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:10:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B7D9EC6.8050207@iwl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:10:46 -0800 From: Andy Bierman Organization: Interworking Labs, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Bjorklund References: <1266505594.8497.27.camel@missotis> <20100218.204652.112076214.mbj@tail-f.com> In-Reply-To: <20100218.204652.112076214.mbj@tail-f.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] refine/augment in RPCs X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: andyb@iwl.com List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:08:23 -0000 Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> is it possible to augment or refine stuff inside an rpc node? If so, how >> does one specify whether the target node is in the input or output part? > > Yes you can augment inside a rpc. 7.13 says: > > The "rpc" statement defines an rpc node in the schema tree. Under > the rpc node, an input node with the name "input", and an output node > with the name "output" are also defined. > > So for example to add an optional parameter 'persist' to the 'commit' > rpc you would do: > > import ietf-netconf { > prefix nc; > } > > augment /nc:commit/nc:input { > leaf persist { > ... > } > } > Gee, not to complain that this draft isn't getting read enough... >From with-defaults-04: // extending the get-config operation augment /nc:get-config/nc:input { leaf with-defaults { type with-defaults-mode-type; } } // extending the get operation augment /nc:get/nc:input { leaf with-defaults { type with-defaults-mode-type; } } // extending the copy-congig operation augment /nc:copy-config/nc:input { leaf with-defaults { type with-defaults-mode-type; } } (I can't help noticing how much more elegant and simple YANG extensibility is compared to all the other DMLs that even attempt it. ;-) > > /martin Andy From lhotka@cesnet.cz Thu Feb 18 13:11:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8338F3A8069 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:11:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.824 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.824 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.340, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Smj-5f9nb7Vl for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533313A7BF9 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3130C2CDE057; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:13:31 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: Martin Bjorklund In-Reply-To: <20100218.204652.112076214.mbj@tail-f.com> References: <1266505594.8497.27.camel@missotis> <20100218.204652.112076214.mbj@tail-f.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: CESNET Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:13:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1266527610.13786.1.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] refine/augment in RPCs X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:11:49 -0000 Martin Bjorklund píše v Čt 18. 02. 2010 v 20:46 +0100: > Hi, > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > is it possible to augment or refine stuff inside an rpc node? If so, how > > does one specify whether the target node is in the input or output part? > > Yes you can augment inside a rpc. 7.13 says: > > The "rpc" statement defines an rpc node in the schema tree. Under > the rpc node, an input node with the name "input", and an output node > with the name "output" are also defined. OK, thanks. How about changing both "input node" and "output node" to "schema node"? Lada > > So for example to add an optional parameter 'persist' to the 'commit' > rpc you would do: > > import ietf-netconf { > prefix nc; > } > > augment /nc:commit/nc:input { > leaf persist { > ... > } > } > > > /martin > > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C From root@core3.amsl.com Wed Feb 24 01:30:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@ietf.org Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C50143A82FB; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:30:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100224093001.C50143A82FB@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:30:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] I-D Action:draft-ietf-netmod-yang-11.txt X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:30:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the NETCONF Data Modeling Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : YANG - A data modeling language for NETCONF Author(s) : M. Bjorklund Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-yang-11.txt Pages : 182 Date : 2010-02-24 YANG is a data modeling language used to model configuration and state data manipulated by the Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) protocol, NETCONF remote procedure calls, and NETCONF notifications. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-11.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-netmod-yang-11.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-02-24012758.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From root@core3.amsl.com Wed Feb 24 02:30:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@ietf.org Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C74443A8400; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100224103007.C74443A8400@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] I-D Action:draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-07.txt X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:30:08 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the NETCONF Data Modeling Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Common YANG Data Types Author(s) : J. Schoenwaelder Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-07.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2010-02-24 This document introduces a collection of common data types to be used with the YANG data modeling language. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-07.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-07.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-02-24022454.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From david.partain@ericsson.com Wed Feb 24 05:32:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97FF28C177 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:32:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gIzIIG+85FVf for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07B928C151 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:32:56 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7c72ae00000040e-c8-4b852b05ca26 Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id DB.C0.01038.50B258B4; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:35:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.177]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:35:01 +0100 Received: from selic023.ki.sw.ericsson.se ([147.214.22.151]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:35:01 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: "netmod@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:35:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100224093001.C50143A82FB@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20100224093001.C50143A82FB@core3.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002241435.10492.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2010 13:35:01.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A2C9460:01CAB556] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [netmod] Two updates today X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:32:58 -0000 Hi, Regarding: > Title : YANG - A data modeling language for NETCONF > Author(s) : M. Bjorklund > Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-yang-11.txt > Pages : 182 > Date : 2010-02-24 and > Title : Common YANG Data Types > Author(s) : J. Schoenwaelder > Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-07.txt > Pages : 31 > Date : 2010-02-24 These updates are only to address nits found by the ID Nits tool to smooth the way for IETF / IESG review. This was done at the chairs' request. I think Martin fixed a few typos, too. Cheers, David From david.partain@ericsson.com Thu Feb 25 14:38:53 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E5728C48A for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4nSWLzG+Nsk for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (mailgw10.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA1628C48C for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:52 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3d-b7c72ae00000040e-63-4b86fc7fce86 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw10.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id F7.15.01038.F7CF68B4; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:41:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.175]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:41:03 +0100 Received: from selic023.lmera.ericsson.se ([150.132.89.214]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:41:02 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: netmod@ietf.org Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:41:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002252341.02515.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2010 22:41:02.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C0D1760:01CAB66B] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [netmod] FYI - YANG and YANG Common Types in the datatracker X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:38:53 -0000 Hi, For those interested, our first two documents are in the tracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-yang/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types/ Cheers, David^2 From david.partain@ericsson.com Thu Feb 25 15:03:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0548D28C202 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OH26gwMPxRj7 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13DE28C1DD for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:03:07 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7c2dae000007b99-9b-4b87022e29fd Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 83.D1.31641.E22078B4; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:05:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.174]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:05:18 +0100 Received: from selic023.lmera.ericsson.se ([150.132.89.214]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:05:18 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:05:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20100211083844.GA27659@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201002260005.17867.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2010 23:05:18.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF67A200:01CAB66E] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "netmod@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [netmod] working group status X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:03:09 -0000 On Thursday 11 February 2010 09.38.44 Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering where we are and what the next steps are. We have last > called YANG and the YANG data types documents and there are new > revisions in place. Do the chairs plan to submit them to the IESG any > time soon? Or do the chairs believe that are open issues left? If so, > which ones? > > What about starting WG last call on draft-ietf-netmod-yang-usage-03? > And what will happen to draft-ietf-netmod-arch-02, which expired > recently? > > I believe we are close to be done with our core documents and should > try to bring up the energy to do the final steps to deliver things. Hi, I've asked Phil to rev the arch doc. When that happens, the plan is to issue a WG LC on that immediately, start a WG LC one week later on the usage document, and one week later start a WG LC on the mapping document. That will get them all underway before the IETF. Cheers, David From root@core3.amsl.com Sat Feb 27 19:30:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@ietf.org Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 066C23A8A4C; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:30:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100228033002.066C23A8A4C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:30:02 -0800 (PST) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: [netmod] I-D Action:draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:30:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the NETCONF Data Modeling Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : An NETCONF- and NETMOD-based Architecture for Network Management Author(s) : P. Shafer Filename : draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2010-02-27 NETCONF gives access to native capabilities of the devices within a network, defining methods for manipulating configuration databases, retrieving operational data, and invoking specific operations. YANG provides the means to define the content carried via NETCONF, both data and operations. Using both technologies, standard modules can be defined to give interoperability and commonality to devices, while still allowing devices to express their unique capabilities. This document describes how NETCONF and YANG help build network management applications that meet the needs of network operators. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-02-27192440.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From david.partain@ericsson.com Sun Feb 28 07:59:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27AF3A8AC0 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:59:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42MVlQPQJIAz for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07323A821B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7c2dae000007b99-da-4b8a92dde209 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 04.96.31641.DD29A8B4; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:59:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.170]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:59:25 +0100 Received: from selic023.lmera.ericsson.se ([150.132.89.214]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:59:24 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: netmod@ietf.org Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:59:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002281659.24506.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2010 15:59:24.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFAF0F10:01CAB88E] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [netmod] Working Group Last Call: An NETCONF- and NETMOD-based Architecture for Network Management X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:59:28 -0000 Dear all, This is a 10-day working group last call on the current working group document: - An NETCONF- and NETMOD-based Architecture for Network Management http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt This WGLC will end on March 10, 2010. Please review the document and post your comments on the mailing list. Please use an appropriate Subject line so that the chairs and editor can easily keep track of the issues that need to be dealt with. Thanks. David^2 From phil@juniper.net Sun Feb 28 19:57:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: netmod@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C97B28C157 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txmkIe+FAs-x for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og106.obsmtp.com (exprod7og106.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.165]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7374928C126 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob106.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS4s7MdrzPRZGN/36GRSEgGl8p+EEpSy/@postini.com; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:57:40 PST Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.393.1; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:56:53 -0800 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:56:53 -0800 Received: from emailsmtp56.jnpr.net ([172.24.60.77]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:56:52 -0800 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp56.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:56:52 -0800 Received: from idle.juniper.net (idleski.juniper.net [172.25.4.26]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id o213upD74374; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phil@juniper.net) Received: from idle.juniper.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idle.juniper.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o213em4F083325; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:40:48 GMT (envelope-from phil@idle.juniper.net) Message-ID: <201003010340.o213em4F083325@idle.juniper.net> To: David Partain In-Reply-To: <201002281659.24506.david.partain@ericsson.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:40:48 -0500 From: Phil Shafer X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2010 03:56:52.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A03C610:01CAB8F3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Working Group Last Call: An NETCONF- and NETMOD-based Architecture for Network Management X-BeenThere: netmod@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: NETMOD WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:57:40 -0000 David Partain writes: >- An NETCONF- and NETMOD-based Architecture for Network Management >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.txt FWIW: The HTML version (printer/reader friendly) is at: http://professional.juniper.net/phil/ietf/draft-ietf-netmod-arch-03.html Thanks, Phil