From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Fri Oct 11 08:02:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E3411E81F5 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:02:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.744, BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41HEF5em+TVe for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139D511E817A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6E12006E; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6PtA6-6AZMl4; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F3B20045; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id EF7F128C7F0A; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:02:16 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@irtf.org Message-ID: <20131011150214.GA70802@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@irtf.org References: <20130908154540.GA68871@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130908154540.GA68871@elstar.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [nmrg] 31st NMRG meeting - 1st NMRG workshop on large scale network measurements X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:02:30 -0000 Hi, the meeting web page located at has been updated with further information for attendees. I assume we will see some very interesting presentations and I expect that we will have some good discussions as well. For those attending, have a safe trip to Zurich. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From rsadre@cs.aau.dk Mon Oct 14 02:42:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3D421F84D0 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:42:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DK=1.009] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r4ap98b1W1ZM for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ad-exchedge02.aau.dk (ad-exchedge03.aau.dk [130.225.194.128]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2DA21F9D65 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 02:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AD-EXCHHUB1-2.aau.dk (172.25.14.37) by ad-exchedge03.aau.dk (130.225.194.128) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:39:21 +0200 Received: from [172.25.23.244] (172.25.23.244) by smtp.aau.dk (172.25.14.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:39:20 +0200 Message-ID: <525BBBCC.7000505@cs.aau.dk> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 11:39:24 +0200 From: Ramin Sadre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.25.23.244] Subject: [nmrg] Deadline extension: CFP IJNM Special Issue on Flow-based Approaches in Network Management X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:42:41 -0000 [Deadline extension. We apologize for multiple copies.] A PDF version of this call can be downloaded at: http://people.cs.aau.dk/rsadre/ijnm/sp_cfp.pdf CALL FOR PAPERS Special Issue of the International Journal on Network Management (IJNM): "Flow-based Approaches in Network Management: Recent Advances and Future Trends" Submission Deadline: October 31, 2013 (extended) Publication: June, 2014 Scope of the Special Issue The continuous increase of line speeds and loads in modern computer networks has considerably stimulated the usage of aggregation-based monitoring techniques for network management in the past years. Amongst those, flow-based approaches have become extremely popular among researchers and operators due to the wide availability of hardware and software flow exporters and their quasi-standardized exporting formats, such as Netflow or IPFIX. While flow-based monitoring was originally used in simple diagnosing and accounting tasks, researchers are now proposing flow-based approaches for a wide range of application fields, such as intrusion detection, traffic classification, and resource management. New environments, such as Clouds or Software Defined Networks, demand for new flow-based solutions for their monitoring and management. Furthermore, we observe more and more attempts to close the gap between packet-based and flow-based monitoring. As the latter was originally proposed as an efficient and feasible alternative to deep packet inspection in high-speed networks, the most recent flow exporters allow enriching the exported flow data with application-layer information. It can be expected that this will lead to new approaches and solutions for network management problems. The goal of this Special Issue is to present innovative flow-based approaches and solutions for network management tasks as well as new methods and technologies for the generation, processing and analysis of flow information. Therefore, this Special Issue of the International Journal on Network Management covers ongoing research on the usage of flow-based approaches, on the design and implementation of flow monitoring devices and infrastructures, and on the emerging trends in flow-based technologies and applications. Tutorial-style articles in these fields are also solicited, if they provide a structured introduction and a clear overview of state-of-the-art technologies, mechanisms, or architectures, and newly emerging challenges as well as problems. Areas of Interest Contributions in the following areas are of specific interest, but not limited to: * Flow-Based Accounting * Flow-Based Intrusion and Anomaly Detection * Flow-Based Problem Diagnosis * Flow-Based Traffic Classification * Flow-Based Monitoring of Applications and Services * Usage of Flow Monitoring in Cloud Environments * Flow-based Monitoring for Bandwidth Allocation * Visualization of Flow Data * Characterization of Network Traffic on Flow Level * Hybrid Packet-Flow-Based Approaches * Efficient Storage and Analysis of Flow Data * Design and Implementation of Flow Monitoring Equipment and Infrastructures * Future Trends in Flow Monitoring * Interaction between IPFIX and SDN * Special-purpose management scenarios Submission Guidelines Authors should submit their papers in PDF format only to http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/nem The paper submission should not exceed 20 pages (double-space). Author instructions are available at http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%291099-1190/homepage/ForAuthors.html and the respective LaTeX template can be found at http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%291099-1190/homepage/latex_class_file.htm All submissions will be peer-reviewed. In case of an acceptance, the final and camera-ready version has to take into account comments of reviewers and needs to follow the template's requirements. Important Deadlines Submission Deadline: October 31, 2013 (extended) Notification of Acceptance: February 15, 2014 Final Version: March 15, 2014 Publication: June 1, 2014 Submissions to http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/nem in PDF only. Guest Editors Ramin Sadre, Aalborg University, Denmark Anna Sperotto, University of Twente, Netherlands Nevil Brownlee, The University of Auckland, New Zealand Rick Hofstede, University of Twente, Netherlands From trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch Tue Oct 15 23:09:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E290921F9C37 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.419 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.419 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.180, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IKCZRu+ln-Cd for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD2311E80FC for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4ADD9302 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:08:57 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AWCUWEmaaI8q for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:08:56 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.0.27.100] (cust-integra-122-165.antanet.ch [80.75.122.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEAE8D9300 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:08:56 +0200 (MEST) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C9A1C815-571C-42D8-A453-4A2BA7435B43"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:08:55 +0200 To: nmrg@irtf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Subject: [nmrg] TRAC 2014 Call for Papers X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 06:09:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C9A1C815-571C-42D8-A453-4A2BA7435B43 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, The following might be of interest to those of you with with an interest = in passive network measurement; for the rest of you, apologies for the = spam! Many thanks, best regards, Brian CALL FOR PAPERS TRAC 2014 -- 5th International Workshop on TRaffic Analysis and = Characterization Technically Sponsored by IEEE and FP7-mPlane 4-8 August 2014 -- Nicosia, CYPRUS -- http://trac2014.ftw.at/ SCOPE The continued evolution of the Internet is characterized by dramatic = changes in=20 the way users behave, interact with and use the network. Today's = Internet content=20 and applications are increasingly delivered by ever larger content = delivery=20 networks (CDNs) and cloud infrastructures. Other changes in the Internet, such as the explosion of mobile traffic = and the=20 growing deployment of encryption (e.g. HTTPS Everywhere) demand new = approaches=20 for characterizing and analyzing network traffic. Malicious and abusive = traffic=20 continues to evolve as well, and techniques for detection must evolve in = kind. The fifth edition of the TRAC workshop continues to serve as a forum for = scientists=20 and engineers in academia and industry to exchange and discuss their = experiences=20 and research results about all aspects of traffic classification, = characterization,=20 and analysis. TOPICS The workshop is soliciting high quality papers discussing original and = innovative=20 experimental activities, unpublished and not currently submitted for = publication=20 elsewhere, on topics including (but not limited) to the following: * Traffic analysis and characterization algorithms and techniques * Detection, analysis, and classification of network anomalies * Platforms for on-line, real-time traffic analysis and characterization * Evaluation of traffic classification and analysis techniques * Data-reduction techniques for traffic analysis and visualization * Privacy-preservation in traffic analysis, classification, and = characterization * Effects of anonymization on traffic analysis, classification, and = characterization * Identification and classification of encrypted traffic * Advanced algorithms for deep packet inspection * Post-DPI approaches for traffic classification * Applications of traffic analysis to network security * Traffic analysis studies on operational networks and large-scale = traffic data sets * Applications of traffic analysis to network operations and management * Ultra-high rate (10 - 100Gbit) traffic analysis, classification, and = characterization * Analysis and characterization of mobile and wireless traffic * Forwarding-plane support for network measurement and analysis =20 =20 SUBMISSIONS Prospective authors are invited to submit their papers using the EDAS = system.=20 Submitted papers must be no longer than six (6) IEEE style pages = including results,=20 figures and references. Papers will be reviewed by the standard = reviewing procedure.=20 Accepted papers will be published on the IEEE Xplore Digital Library IMPORTANT DATES Paper submission: January 15, 2014=20 Notifications: March 15, 2014=20 Camera-ready: April 1, 2014=20 =20 ORGANIZING COMMITTEE Workshop Chairs: * Pedro Casas (FTW Vienna Research Center, Austria) * Brian Trammell (ETH Zurich, Switzerland) Honorary Chairs: * Christian Callegari (University of Pisa, Italy) * Sandrine Vaton (TELECOM Bretagne, France) --Apple-Mail=_C9A1C815-571C-42D8-A453-4A2BA7435B43 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJSXi14AAoJENt3nsOmbNJc7ggIAKJzbAKEDuiwKnU4dd1ZQzyH zPM8WIqA2d8gJ564YBGMy1vv0kDbbJNsHUCOr2W65YWxyPdBAQr2ueE1kAXm7rre 8UxpS7Vu+9dm2MvSUYiFnrMxYm+56qBoS03O7hq0OTLZUH2QOWP3PkpxL87UVGLO wAjuOS3A06926UR8M9UYC71gtB3R9UtvA2muH9bIuas7KqZ6QKblcUOltuC7NspE UyoJv7js5yBoiA+zYccwFK+hoeB13lF/ru8M/VZKjJGmmEOL9cbBQAa8Z5/EFJxH ZA3ubM0oPI3aHOfllJf/jXfGU67IeBUEiFmu5lhvbnfZF4hlFo8ofmZs/cIYYvY= =GXhJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C9A1C815-571C-42D8-A453-4A2BA7435B43-- From j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de Fri Oct 18 05:32:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A8521F9E9C for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 05:32:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.217 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.217 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLuIol86vpw0 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 05:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB54A21F9E94 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 05:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29A32003F; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:31:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RfQPIPrUAEZr; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:31:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA4F2003E; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:31:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C32CC28E040D; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:31:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:31:53 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@irtf.org Message-ID: <20131018123153.GE37508@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@irtf.org References: <20130908154540.GA68871@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130908154540.GA68871@elstar.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [nmrg] 31st NMRG meeting - 1st NMRG workshop on large scale network measurements X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:32:04 -0000 Hi, the slides presented on Monday have been uploaded to the IETF interim meetings tracker. You can find the material here: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2013/10/14/nmrg/proceedings.html Thanks to everybody who participated in this meeting. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From jiangsheng@huawei.com Sun Oct 20 19:31:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF6211E832D for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bz3+7IGB334W for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (szxga02-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501CB11E8110 for ; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "nmrg@irtf.org" , Brian E Carpenter Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:31:13 -0000 SGksIE9saXZpZXIsDQoNCldlIHdvdWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gYXBwbHkgYSAxNX4yMCBtaW51dGVzIGZv ciBvdXIgIk5ldHdvcmsgQ29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiBOZWdvdGlhdGlvbiBQcm9ibGVtIFN0YXRlbWVu dCBhbmQgUmVxdWlyZW1lbnRzIiwgZHJhZnQtamlhbmctY29uZmlnLW5lZ290aWF0aW9uLXBzLTAx Lg0KDQpJbiBvcmRlciB0byBhY2hpZXZlIGF1dG9ub21pY3MgYW1vbmcgZGlzdHJpYnV0ZWQgbmV0 d29yayBkZXZpY2VzLiBBIG5ldyBJUCBsYXllciBuZWdvdGlhdGUgcHJvdG9jb2wgaXMgbmVlZGVk IHRvIGF1dG9ub21pY2FsbHkgZGVjaWRlIG5ldHdvcmsgY29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiwgcGFydGljdWxh cmx5IHdoZW4gdGhlc2UgY29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiBzaG91bGQgYmUgY29uc2lzdGVudCBvbiB0aGVz ZSBuZXR3b3JrIGRldmljZXMuIFRoaXMgcHJlc2VudGF0aW9uIGlzIG1haW5seSBmb3IgYXR0cmFj dGluZyBpbnRlcmVzdHMuDQoNClRoZSBhdXRob3JzIGFsc28gYXJlIGFsc28gY29uc2lkZXJpbmcg dG8gcHJlc2VudCBpdCBpbiBJbnRhcmVhIGFuZCBvcHNhd2cgaW4gcGFyYWxsZWwuDQoNCkJlc3Qg cmVnYXJkcywNCg0KU2hlbmcgKyBCcmlhbg0KDQpGcm9tOiBPbGl2aWVyIEZlc3RvciA8b2xpdmll ci5mZXN0b3IgYXQgaW5yaWEuZnI+IA0KVG86IG5tcmcgYXQgaXJ0Zi5vcmcgDQpEYXRlOiBTYXQs IDIxIFNlcCAyMDEzIDE1OjU4OjUxICswMjAwIA0KTGlzdC1pZDogTmV0d29yayBNYW5hZ2VtZW50 IFJlc2VhcmNoIEdyb3VwIGRpc2N1c3Npb24gbGlzdCA8bm1yZy5pcnRmLm9yZz4gDQoNCi0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tDQpEZWFyIE5NUkcgc3Vic2NyaWJlcnMsDQoNCk92ZXIgdGhlIGxh c3QgY291cGxlIG9mIHllYXJzLCBBdXRvbm9taWNzIGhhcyBnYWluZWQgYSBsb3QgYXR0ZW50aW9u IGluIGJvdGggYWNhZGVtaWEgYW5kIGluZHVzdHJ5LiBBZnRlciB0aGUgaW5pdGlhbCAiYnV6eiIs IHRoZSBiYXNpYyBjb25jZXB0cyBvZiBhdXRvbm9taWNzIHJlbWFpbiBleHRyZW1lbHkgcHJvbWlz aW5nIGluIHRoZSBhcmVhIG9mIG5ldHdvcmtpbmcsIGluIHBhcnRpY3VsYXIgd2hlbiBjb25zaWRl cmluZyB0aGUgZmxleGliaWx0eSBwcm92aWRlZCBieSB0aGUgZW1lcmdpbmcgdGVjaG5vbG9naWVz IGluIHZpcnR1YWxpemF0aW9uIGFuZCBzb2Z0d2FyZSBkZWZpbmVkIG5ldHdvcmtpbmcuICBJbiB0 aGlzIGNvbnRleHQsIGEgZm9jdXNlZCBhY3Rpdml0eSBvbiBBdXRvbm9taWNzIGlzIHByb3Bvc2Vk IHdpdGhpbiB0aGUgTmV0d29yayBNYW5hZ2VtZW50IFJlc2VhcmNoIEdyb3VwLiBBIGRlZGljYXRl ZCBzZXNzaW9uIHdpbGwgdGFrZSBwbGFjZSBkdXJpbmcgdGhlIG5leHQgSUVURiBtZWV0aW5nIGlu IFZhbmNvdXZlciAoYSBzbG90IGZvciB0aGUgTk1SRyBoYXMgYmVlbiByZXF1ZXN0ZWQgdG8gdGhp cyBlbmQpLiBJbml0aWFsIGRpc2N1c3Npb25zIG9uIGltcG9ydGFuY2UgYW5kIHBvc3NpYmxlIGNv bnRyaWJ1dGlvbnMgaW4gdGVybXMgb2YgSS1EcyB0byB0aGUgSVJURiBvbiB0aGlzIHRvcGljIGlu Y2x1ZGU6DQoNCiAtIGFuIElSVEYtTk1SRyBkZWZpbml0aW9uIG9mIEF1dG9ub21pYyBuZXR3b3Jr aW5nIHRlcm1zIA0KIC0gUmVwb3J0IGFuZCBzaGFyaW5nIG9mIGV4cGVyaWVuY2VzIGluICh1bi0p c3VjY2Vzc2Z1bCBkZXBsb3ltZW50IG9mIGF1dG9ub21pYyBmdW5jdGlvbnMgaW4gSVAgbmV0d29y a3MuDQoNCldlIGludml0ZSBhbGwgb2YgeW91IHRvIGNvbnRyaWJ1dGUgdG8gdGhlIGRpc2N1c3Np b24gdGhhdCB3aWxsIHN0YXJ0IG9uIHRoaXMgbGlzdCBhbmQgaW52aXRlIHlvdSB0byBjb25zaWRl ciBzdWJtaXR0aW5nIChhbmQgY29udHJpYnV0aW5nIHRvKSBJLURzICBpbiB0aGlzIGFyZWEgaW4g dGhlIG5lYXIgZnV0dXJlLg0KDQpCZXN0IFJlZ2FyZHMNCg0KL09saXZpZXIgRmVzdG9yICYgTGlz YW5kcm8gWmFtYmVuZWRldHRpIEdyYW52aWxsZS4NCk5NUkcgQ28tQ2hhaXJzDQoNCg== From granville@inf.ufrgs.br Sun Oct 20 19:50:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE0F11E846E for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mT-n87rRIx4R for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puma.inf.ufrgs.br (puma.inf.ufrgs.br [143.54.11.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388C911E8118 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4434361D64; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:49:56 -0200 (BRST) Received: from dynamic-36-139-igf2013.apnic.net (unknown [203.83.36.139]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824F461D57; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:49:53 -0200 (BRST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville In-Reply-To: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B923AD4B544@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:49:55 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B923AD4B544@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> To: Sheng Jiang , Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: nmrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:50:02 -0000 Dear Sheng, dear Brian Thanks for your proposal. We'll include it in the meeting program and = advertise it soon.=20 We are still waiting for further contributions to finish the NMRG agenda = for Vancouver. Please, if you have interest in the topic, don't hesitate = to inform us. Best regards Olivier and Lisandro Em 21/10/2013, =E0s 10:30, Sheng Jiang escreveu: > Hi, Olivier, >=20 > We would like to apply a 15~20 minutes for our "Network Configuration = Negotiation Problem Statement and Requirements", = draft-jiang-config-negotiation-ps-01. >=20 > In order to achieve autonomics among distributed network devices. A = new IP layer negotiate protocol is needed to autonomically decide = network configuration, particularly when these configuration should be = consistent on these network devices. This presentation is mainly for = attracting interests. >=20 > The authors also are also considering to present it in Intarea and = opsawg in parallel. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Sheng + Brian >=20 > From: Olivier Festor =20 > To: nmrg at irtf.org=20 > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:58:51 +0200=20 > List-id: Network Management Research Group discussion list = =20 >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > Dear NMRG subscribers, >=20 > Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention = in both academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic = concepts of autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of = networking, in particular when considering the flexibilty provided by = the emerging technologies in virtualization and software defined = networking. In this context, a focused activity on Autonomics is = proposed within the Network Management Research Group. A dedicated = session will take place during the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a = slot for the NMRG has been requested to this end). Initial discussions = on importance and possible contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on = this topic include: >=20 > - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms=20 > - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of = autonomic functions in IP networks. >=20 > We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start = on this list and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) = I-Ds in this area in the near future. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > /Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville. > NMRG Co-Chairs >=20 > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg From granville@inf.ufrgs.br Sun Oct 20 19:50:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B69211E8471 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2iAL3RB98Snm for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puma.inf.ufrgs.br (puma.inf.ufrgs.br [143.54.11.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2F211E8320 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AEB61D81; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:49:59 -0200 (BRST) Received: from dynamic-36-139-igf2013.apnic.net (unknown [203.83.36.139]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837DD61D6C; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:49:56 -0200 (BRST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville In-Reply-To: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B923AD4B544@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:50:02 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <143A5D55-06FB-4F86-89C5-3CCD396CD195@inf.ufrgs.br> References: <5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B923AD4B544@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> To: Sheng Jiang , Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: nmrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:50:04 -0000 Dear Sheng, dear Brian Thanks for your proposal. We'll include it in the meeting program and = advertise it soon.=20 We are still waiting for further contributions to finish the NMRG agenda = for Vancouver. Please, if you have interest in the topic, don't hesitate = to inform us. Best regards Olivier and Lisandro Em 21/10/2013, =E0s 10:30, Sheng Jiang escreveu: > Hi, Olivier, >=20 > We would like to apply a 15~20 minutes for our "Network Configuration = Negotiation Problem Statement and Requirements", = draft-jiang-config-negotiation-ps-01. >=20 > In order to achieve autonomics among distributed network devices. A = new IP layer negotiate protocol is needed to autonomically decide = network configuration, particularly when these configuration should be = consistent on these network devices. This presentation is mainly for = attracting interests. >=20 > The authors also are also considering to present it in Intarea and = opsawg in parallel. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Sheng + Brian >=20 > From: Olivier Festor =20 > To: nmrg at irtf.org=20 > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:58:51 +0200=20 > List-id: Network Management Research Group discussion list = =20 >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ > Dear NMRG subscribers, >=20 > Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention = in both academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic = concepts of autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of = networking, in particular when considering the flexibilty provided by = the emerging technologies in virtualization and software defined = networking. In this context, a focused activity on Autonomics is = proposed within the Network Management Research Group. A dedicated = session will take place during the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a = slot for the NMRG has been requested to this end). Initial discussions = on importance and possible contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on = this topic include: >=20 > - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms=20 > - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of = autonomic functions in IP networks. >=20 > We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start = on this list and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) = I-Ds in this area in the near future. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > /Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville. > NMRG Co-Chairs >=20 > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Oct 21 01:40:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869A111E8369 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:40:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rAoGVt3TSqRx for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4F011E82E8 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 01:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2264; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1382344814; x=1383554414; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QkOohsMTQk5+phvOZEtjODvZx7yxJhjPbG8qAS9mmtE=; b=GcwYDaV9w+qhbCzTOhk8oezxNWqdf2Si/7qHFP+FnBs7qYU8i5QgQ0Ma 06czqC9Ut+zMwQMwb8/dpg+IhWavIlW0yyXjPM3NraPXcvHQFyh5LJWnp TDP30rNIQ7NfQLV92BWo2lfR2CQgJIntjT/GOdmggJGbpHKhAHqI/WERm 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjEFADrnZFKQ/khM/2dsb2JhbABagwc4vwKBKBZ0giYBAQQBAQE1NAEBCgEQCyEWDwkDAgECARUwBg0BBQIBAYgCDb1gBI0FgQ6BSQeEKQOYCYY7i0yDJjqBNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,537,1378857600"; d="scan'208";a="160854171" Received: from ams-core-3.cisco.com ([144.254.72.76]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2013 08:40:13 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.89] (ams-bclaise-8918.cisco.com [10.60.67.89]) by ams-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r9L8e8v9026428; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:40:10 GMT Message-ID: <5264E868.2040100@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:40:08 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Festor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nmrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:40:38 -0000 Olivier, Thanks for an interesting topic. > Dear NMRG subscribers, > > Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention in both academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic concepts of autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of networking, in particular when considering the flexibilty provided by the emerging technologies in virtualization and software defined networking. In this context, a focused activity on Autonomics is proposed within the Network Management Research Group. A dedicated session will take place during the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a slot for the NMRG has been requested to this end). Initial discussions on importance and possible contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on this topic include: > > - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms This agenda topic above is key. When speaking about Autonomic Networking with different persons, I came to realize that everybody has got his own definition (a little bit like SDN, but let's not go there). There is a mix of automation, optimization, self-learning, process improvement, etc... Part of the definitions, or linked to it, it would be interested to understand what the problem statements and use cases are. Equally important, what Autonomic Networking is NOT about (to take the same analogy, is it like SDN? Is it going to save the world?). If it's about automation and optimization in networks and devices, is this really new? I mean, RFC 2819, done in 2000, specified RMON event and alarm: is this already some sort of Autonomic Networking. So some points and questions in this email, basically to start the discussion. Regards, Benoit > - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of autonomic functions in IP networks. > > We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start on this list and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) I-Ds in this area in the near future. > > Best Regards > > /Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville. > NMRG Co-Chairs > > > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > . > From mbehring@cisco.com Mon Oct 21 06:18:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C7711E859D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:18:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N39J7K75WTrT for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071FD11E854C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2204; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1382361383; x=1383570983; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=RIXRRa2zpH4j2hEK9iKLz9N8cRrhBHwPqpqU4t6Agyw=; b=aL/XoH9pciMgmHBBYdcsXeRuZyRJCZ2LK5G3FTdlYeehjIsb2fdUrywK HTI3/kyHJNNcha+eAleXsVYcQd8iWqIbAiUN0D4XB92Q8VzcyelMX8G49 rE/8v5PuecocHIrYxJcGwdmgvfAnQxobn3l5M35kgDNwRbcpjRgjkxAcH Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjIFAKUoZVKtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABZgwc4VL4ugSwWdIIlAQEBBAEBATcyAhcEAgEIEQQBAQsUCQcnCxQJCAIEARIIh34NvW6PKzgGgxmBCgOZOJBYgySCKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,539,1378857600"; d="scan'208";a="274599176" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2013 13:16:22 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com [173.36.12.87]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r9LDGMPF014772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:16:22 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([169.254.4.14]) by xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com ([173.36.12.87]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:16:22 -0500 From: "Michael Behringer (mbehring)" To: Olivier Festor , "nmrg@irtf.org" Thread-Topic: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics Thread-Index: AQHOttK8jjbkIO2uT0y2zLpavYoUZ5n/URwA Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:16:21 +0000 Message-ID: <3AA7118E69D7CD4BA3ECD5716BAF28DF1D8AF642@xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.126.207] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:18:57 -0000 NMRG,=20 We would like to present two documents in the upcoming NMRG meeting:=20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-autonomic-network-framework-01 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-homenet-trust-bootstrap-01 The first is our vision and framework on autonomic networking, it includes = also our definitions in this space, for discussion.=20 The second is an autonomic way to bootstrap trust in a domain.=20 Sorry for the late post, but we wanted to update the documents before sugge= sting. I'm looking forward to the meeting!=20 Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of > Olivier Festor > Sent: 21 September 2013 07:59 > To: nmrg@irtf.org > Subject: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics >=20 > Dear NMRG subscribers, >=20 > Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention in b= oth > academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic concepts of > autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of networking, in > particular when considering the flexibilty provided by the emerging > technologies in virtualization and software defined networking. In this > context, a focused activity on Autonomics is proposed within the Network > Management Research Group. A dedicated session will take place during > the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a slot for the NMRG has been > requested to this end). Initial discussions on importance and possible > contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on this topic include: >=20 > - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms > - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of > autonomic functions in IP networks. >=20 > We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start on t= his list > and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) I-Ds in this= area > in the near future. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > /Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville. > NMRG Co-Chairs >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg From laurent.ciavaglia@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Oct 21 08:46:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6860911E8621 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.714 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.714 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRRjlWcZ8QF9 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA7D11E8400 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-42.lucent.com [135.239.2.42]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r9LFg5bB016027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r9LFg4FI000922 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:42:04 +0200 Received: from [172.27.205.192] (135.239.27.41) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (135.239.2.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:42:04 +0200 Message-ID: <52654B46.8090902@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:41:58 +0200 From: Laurent Ciavaglia Organization: Alcatel-Lucent Bell Labs France User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <3AA7118E69D7CD4BA3ECD5716BAF28DF1D8AF642@xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3AA7118E69D7CD4BA3ECD5716BAF28DF1D8AF642@xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000100070304080305070601" X-Originating-IP: [135.239.27.41] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 Subject: Re: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:46:00 -0000 --------------000100070304080305070601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Lisandro, Olivier, I am thinking of 3 short presentations I could give (10-15 min. each, depending on time allowed): 1) Experiences in deployment of autonomic functions in IP/(G)MPLS networks covering: .Risk-aware routing for IGP-LS protocols [IM2013 ] and Adaptive level of recovery for GMPLS networks [ICC2012 ]. .Network-wide scheduling of OSPF Graceful Restarts [CNSM2010 ]. .Root cause analysis for IP-VPNs [ICC2013 ]. The goal is to show how (different) autonomic functionality can enhance IP networks' capability and operations. 2) A running implementation of an autonomic networking framework [ICC2012 ]. The goal is to outline the potential common building blocks, interfaces, models. It could be a good complement to the framework proposed by Michael, and inputs to a wider NMRG investigation. 3) Towards operationally-safe autonomic networks [BLTJ2012 ]. A slightly more prospective (but equally important) topic on how to guarantee trust in autonomic functions at the design- and operation-time (e.g. stability, robustness). In parallel, I also fully support the start of an I-D on autonomic networking terms, and volunteer to write a first text before Vancouver (which could be discussed on site/during the sessions). I will try to share a first draft ASAP. Best regards, Laurent. On 21/10/2013 15:16, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote: > NMRG, > > We would like to present two documents in the upcoming NMRG meeting: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-autonomic-network-framework-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-homenet-trust-bootstrap-01 > > The first is our vision and framework on autonomic networking, it includes also our definitions in this space, for discussion. > > The second is an autonomic way to bootstrap trust in a domain. > > Sorry for the late post, but we wanted to update the documents before suggesting. I'm looking forward to the meeting! > > Michael > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of >> Olivier Festor >> Sent: 21 September 2013 07:59 >> To: nmrg@irtf.org >> Subject: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics >> >> Dear NMRG subscribers, >> >> Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention in both >> academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic concepts of >> autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of networking, in >> particular when considering the flexibilty provided by the emerging >> technologies in virtualization and software defined networking. In this >> context, a focused activity on Autonomics is proposed within the Network >> Management Research Group. A dedicated session will take place during >> the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a slot for the NMRG has been >> requested to this end). Initial discussions on importance and possible >> contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on this topic include: >> >> - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms >> - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of >> autonomic functions in IP networks. >> >> We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start on this list >> and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) I-Ds in this area >> in the near future. >> >> Best Regards >> >> /Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville. >> NMRG Co-Chairs >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmrg mailing list >> nmrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > > --------------000100070304080305070601 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Lisandro, Olivier,

I am thinking of 3 short presentations I could give (10-15 min. each, depending on time allowed):
    1) Experiences in deployment of autonomic functions in IP/(G)MPLS networks covering:
        .Risk-aware routing for IGP-LS protocols [IM2013] and Adaptive level of recovery for GMPLS networks [ICC2012].
        .Network-wide scheduling of OSPF Graceful Restarts [CNSM2010].
        .Root cause analysis for IP-VPNs [ICC2013].
       The goal is to show how (different) autonomic functionality can enhance IP networks' capability and operations.


    2) A running implementation of an autonomic networking framework [ICC2012].
       The goal is to outline the potential common building blocks, interfaces, models. It could be a good complement to the framework proposed by Michael, and inputs to a wider NMRG investigation.


    3) Towards operationally-safe autonomic networks [BLTJ2012].
       A slightly more prospective (but equally important) topic on how to guarantee trust in autonomic functions at the design- and operation-time (e.g. stability, robustness).


In parallel, I also fully support the start of an I-D on autonomic networking terms, and volunteer to write a first text before Vancouver (which could be discussed on site/during the sessions). I will try to share a first draft ASAP.


Best regards, Laurent.
On 21/10/2013 15:16, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
NMRG, 

We would like to present two documents in the upcoming NMRG meeting: 

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-autonomic-network-framework-01
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-homenet-trust-bootstrap-01

The first is our vision and framework on autonomic networking, it includes also our definitions in this space, for discussion. 

The second is an autonomic way to bootstrap trust in a domain. 

Sorry for the late post, but we wanted to update the documents before suggesting. I'm looking forward to the meeting! 

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: nmrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:nmrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of
Olivier Festor
Sent: 21 September 2013 07:59
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Subject: [nmrg] NRMG Activity on Autonomics

Dear NMRG subscribers,

Over the last couple of years, Autonomics has gained a lot attention in both
academia and industry. After the initial "buzz", the basic concepts of
autonomics remain extremely promising in the area of networking, in
particular when considering the flexibilty provided by the emerging
technologies in virtualization and software defined networking.  In this
context, a focused activity on Autonomics is proposed within the Network
Management Research Group. A dedicated session will take place during
the next IETF meeting in Vancouver (a slot for the NMRG has been
requested to this end). Initial discussions on importance and possible
contributions in terms of I-Ds to the IRTF on this topic include:

 - an IRTF-NMRG definition of Autonomic networking terms
 - Report and sharing of experiences in (un-)successful deployment of
autonomic functions in IP networks.

We invite all of you to contribute to the discussion that will start on this list
and invite you to consider submitting (and contributing to) I-Ds  in this area
in the near future.

Best Regards

/Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville.
NMRG Co-Chairs


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--------------000100070304080305070601-- From granville@inf.ufrgs.br Tue Oct 29 03:54:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ACE11E8209 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:54:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.14 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.14 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eZroY3rZWHZU for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puma.inf.ufrgs.br (puma.inf.ufrgs.br [143.54.11.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801B311E81E8 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 03:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093DB61CD9 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:54:11 -0200 (BRST) Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [179.146.122.7]) by puma.inf.ufrgs.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C7261CD1 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:53:57 -0200 (BRST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1816\)) From: Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville In-Reply-To: <20130924202401.GA20516@elstar.local> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:45:06 -0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130908154540.GA68871@elstar.local> <20130924202401.GA20516@elstar.local> To: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1816) Subject: [nmrg] 32nd NMRG meeting - Autonomics for Network Management X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 10:54:19 -0000 Dear NMRG subscribers, Please find below the draft agenda for the upcoming 32nd NMRG meeting = during the IETF 88 meeting. As previously announced, this meeting will = be centered on the use of autonomic computing principles for network = management. The meeting will take place on Friday, Nov 8th, distributed = in two IETF slots. Best regards, Olivier Festor & Lisandro Zambenedetti Granville NMRG Co-Chairs ---- DRAFT agenda 32nd Network Management Research Group (NMRG) meeting IETF 88 November 8th 2013 - Vancouver, Canada 09:00 - 11:00 : Friday Morning Session I - Plaza A -------------------------------------------------- 09:00 - 09:05 : Agenda Bashing 09:05 - 09:30 : Network Configuration Negotiation Problem Statement and = Requirements - Sheng Jiang 09:30 - 09:55 : Using Peer-to-Peer to Detect Service Level Agreement = Violations - J=E9ferson Campos Nobre 09:55 - 10:20 : A Framework for Autonomic Networking - Michael Behringer 10:20 - 11:00 : A running implementation of an autonomic networking = framework - Laurent Ciavaglia 12:30 - 13:30 : Friday Afternoon Session II - Plaza C -----------------------------------------------------=20 12:30 - 12:55 : Bootstrapping Trust on a Homenet - Michael Behringer 12:55 - 13:30 : Discussion - An IRTF/NMRG definition of Autonomic = networking terms=20