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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, The next NMRG virtual meeting is scheduled on Friday 29-05-2020 17:00-19:00= Paris time. Please find below the agenda and logistics. Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. --- NMRG Virtual Meeting May 2020 Friday 29-05-2020 17:00-19:00 Paris time Useful links: * Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-nmrg-04-nmrg= -01 * Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-nmrg-04/sess= ion/nmrg * Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm290a76340eb859ab5995f64e= bb6bf434 * Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20200529 * Recording: WebEx recording will be available after the meeting * Attendance: please add your name at the bottom on the Etherpad page (http= s://etherpad.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20200529) Agenda: * 17:00 - 05 min - 1. Meeting logistics and agenda, Chairs * 17:05 - 10 min - 2. RG updates, Chairs * 17:15 - 20 min - 3. AI for NM Topic #1 * 17:35 - 20 min - 4. AI for NM Topic #2 * 17:55 - 20 min - 5. Research Challenges in AI for NM document (discussion= ) * 18:15 - 15 min - 6. IBN - Architecture discussion * 18:30 - 10 min - 7. IBN - Use Cases discussion * 18:40 - 10 min - 8. IBN - Hackathon discussion * 18:50 - 10 min - 9. IBN - Intent Classification, draft-li-nmrg-intent-cla= ssification * 19:00 - end of meeting --_000_PR1PR07MB4891F13867233500E00B2122F3A50PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

The next NMRG virtual meeting is scheduled on Friday 29-05= -2020 17:00-19:00 Paris time.

 

Please find below the agenda and logistics.

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

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NMRG Virtual Meeting May 2020

Friday 29-05-2020 17:00-19:00 Paris time=

 

 

Useful links:

* Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-= 2020-nmrg-04-nmrg-01

* Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-= 2020-nmrg-04/session/nmrg

* Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm290a763= 40eb859ab5995f64ebb6bf434

* Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20200= 529

* Recording: WebEx recording will be available after the m= eeting

* Attendance: please add your name at the bottom on the Et= herpad page (https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/nmrg-virtual-20200529)<= /span>

 

 

Agenda:

* 17:00 - 05 min – 1. Meeting logistics and agenda, = Chairs

* 17:05 - 10 min - 2. RG updates, Chairs=

* 17:15 - 20 min - 3. AI for NM Topic #1=

* 17:35 - 20 min - 4. AI for NM Topic #2

* 17:55 - 20 min - 5. Research Challenges in AI for NM doc= ument (discussion)

* 18:15 - 15 min - 6. IBN - Architecture discussion

* 18:30 - 10 min - 7. IBN - Use Cases discussion

* 18:40 - 10 min - 8. IBN - Hackathon discussion

* 18:50 - 10 min - 9. IBN - Intent Classification, draft-l= i-nmrg-intent-classification

* 19:00 - end of meeting

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Authors are invited to sub= mit original contributions that have not&=23160;
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&=23160;Nur Zincir-Heywood= , Dalhousie University, Canada&=23160;
&=23160;Mehmet Ulema, Manh= attan College, USA&=23160;

Technical Program Co-Chair= s:&=23160;
&=23160;Muge Sayit, Ege Un= iversity, Turkey&=23160;
&=23160;Stuart Clayman, Un= iversity College London, UK&=23160;

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I hope this email finds you all safe and sound. Please find below my review= of the last version of Draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-03.txt. * Lifecycle or life-cycle, keep it consistent * Add NBI, API, VNF, PNF, AI and GBP to the acronym section * In section 3.1 * The authors mentioned that "Intent is very often just a synonym= for policy". I am sure that the authors meant that for the wider audience = confusing intent and policy. Probably need to link this sentence with the o= ne just before it. * Section 3.2 * It is a bit confusing because the authors are talking about int= ent solutions and they present as an example carrier networks, DC networks,= and Enterprise networks, which for me are more as situations, scenarios or= contexts than a solution * Does the table cover all the possibilities or just some example= s (if it is the case, it needs to be clear in the text)? * I don't agree. I guess if we pick the scenario (carrier network= s for example) and a user (network operator), you will probably have differ= ent intent types depending on the use-case. What I mean is that just the us= er and the context does not describe or define the intent type * Section 3.1 and 3.2 are related. If you can pick the actor, the= context, and the use case, you can have a clear definition of your intent! * Section 3.3 * The title of this section is "current problems and requirements= ". I wouldn't say 'problems' as it is defined in this section but more as p= ossible improvement or intent benefits! I guess there are still some techni= cal people that they want/need to use APIs/CLI to fix/access/interact with = the system on specific issues! * Section 5.1 * The figure in this section is a bit confusing! Does the classif= ication process follow this order (R1-U1, R2-U2,.....)? I think this pictur= e can be deleted! * Section 5.2 * In section 4.2, three different intent user types were defined = (customers, App dev, and Management). However, in section 5.2, the authors = mentioned other intent user types such as Network or service operator, Ente= rprise administrator, cloud administrator, underlay network administrator. = There is a difference between intent user and intent user type. * Section 5.3.1 * In the first table, the authors duplicated some entries twice (= probably by mistake). * In section 3.4, the authors define a list of intent types that = should be supported but in section 5.3.1, 5.4.1, and 5.5.1 new intent types= are defined such as "strategy intent". * Section 6 * I don't see the point of having this section (at least as it is= ) in this document. What I mean, is that I cannot see how AI will impact th= e classification! * I don't agree with the authors when they support that intent de= termined by AI-based will have a format closer to machine language structur= es than natural language structures to avoid misconception. One way to do i= t is to have multiple exchanges between the user (human) and the system (th= e first loop) to be sure about the user request and that the AI-based agent= gets the user's intention. Best Regards, Mehdi Mehdi Bezahaf, PhD Senior Research Associate D31, InfoLab21 School of Computing & Communications Lancaster University +44 (0) 1524 510384 --_000_LNXP265MB15132404E6DAD94A7132BB56A7BC0LNXP265MB1513GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

I hope this email finds you all safe and sound. Plea= se find below my review of the last version of Draft-li-nmrg-intent-classif= ication-03.txt.

 

    • Lifecycle or life-cycle, keep it consistent
    • Add NBI= , API, VNF, PNF, AI and GBP to the acronym section
      • I= n section 3.1
      • The authors mentioned that "Intent is very often just a synonym for p= olicy". I am sure that the authors meant that for the wider audience confusing intent and policy. Probably need to link this sen= tence with the one just before it.
    • Section 3.2
      • It is a bit confusing because the authors are talking about intent solutio= ns and they present as an example carrier networks, DC networks, and Enterprise networks, which for me are more as situations,= scenarios or contexts than a solution
      • Does the tabl= e cover all the possibilities or just some examples (if it is the case, it = needs to be clear in the text)?
      • I don't agree. I gue= ss if we pick the scenario (carrier networks for example) and a user (netwo= rk operator), you will probably have different intent types depending on the use-case. What I mean is that= just the user and the context does not describe or define the intent type<= o:p>
      • Section 3.1 and 3.2 are related. If you can pick the= actor, the context, and the use case, you can have a clear definition of your intent!
    • Section 3.3
      • The title of this section is "current problems and requirements"= . I wouldn't say 'problems' as it is defined in this section but more as possible improvement or intent benefits! I guess there are sti= ll some technical people that they want/need to use APIs/CLI to fix/access/= interact with the system on specific issues!

 

    • Section 5.1
      • The figure in this section is a bit confusing! Does the classification pro= cess follow this order (R1-U1, R2-U2,…..)? I think this picture can be deleted!
    • Section 5.2
      • In section 4.2, three different intent user types were defined (customers,= App dev, and Management). However, in section 5.2, the authors mentioned other intent user types such as Network or service o= perator, Enterprise administrator, cloud administrator, underlay network ad= ministrator. There is a difference between intent user and intent user type= .
    • Section 5.3.1
      • In the first table, the authors duplicated some entries twice (probably by= mistake).
      • In section 3.4, the authors define a list= of intent types that should be supported but in section 5.3.1, 5.4.1, and = 5.5.1 new intent types are defined such as "strategy intent".
    • Section 6
      • I don't see the point of having this section (at least as it is) in this d= ocument. What I mean, is that I cannot see how AI will impact the classification! 
      • I don't agree= with the authors when they support that intent determined by AI-based will= have a format closer to machine language structures than natural language structures to avoid misconception. One wa= y to do it is to have multiple exchanges between the user (human) and the s= ystem (the first loop) to be sure about the user request and that the AI-ba= sed agent gets the user's intention.

 

 

Best Regards,

Mehdi

 

 

Mehdi Bezahaf, PhD

Seni= or Research Associate

D31,= InfoLab21

Scho= ol of Computing & Communications

Lanc= aster University

+= ;44 (0) 1524 510384

 

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multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e00ccb05a5c75655" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] New Version Notification for draft-li-nmrg-intent-classification-03.txt X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 17:34:24 -0000 --000000000000e00ccb05a5c75655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear NMRG. As a co-autor, I support the new version of the draft. As commented by Chen, I believe the main comments were effectively addressed in this version. Thus, I think it is ready for the RG adoption. Thanks. Best. ---------------------------------------------------- Prof. Dr. J=C3=A9ferson Campos Nobre Instituto de Inform=C3=A1tica Programa de P=C3=B3s-Gradua=C3=A7=C3=A3o em Computa=C3=A7=C3=A3o Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul http://www.inf.ufrgs.br/~jcnobre ---------------------------------------------------- On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:54 AM lichen6@chinatelecom.cn < lichen6@chinatelecom.cn> wrote: > Hi, > > > > As all of you who attended the NMRG call this week know, the conclusion o= f > the discussion was the recommendation from the chairs to publish updated > version of the draft and to allow for 2-3 weeks for any additional commen= ts > before requesting approval to be adopted as a RG draft. > > > > We=E2=80=99ve just uploaded to -03 version of intent classification draft > according to comments in the list and offline discussions. > > > > Updates from previous version from November: > > 1. 1. Addressed comments from Laurent, Jerome and Jurgen > that the value of the document and the classification tables are not > clearly explained. Addressed by updating the introduction section and > discussions on the mailing list > > 2. 2.Addressed comment from Jurgen about alignment > with the draft-clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03. Addressed by updating the draft > and referring in the Introduction to [CLEMM] and explaining what the scop= e > of each draft. > > 3. 3.Addressed comment from Jurgen to clarify if this > is a survey. Addressed by replying on the mailing list that it is not mea= nt > to be a survey. > > 4. 4.Addressed comments from Jerome and Laurent about > presenting intent classification methodology. Addressed by adding new > sub-sections 5.1 and 5.2. > > 5. 5.Addressed comment from Natale Bob that ut is > unclear what the purpose is of the policy continuum section. Addressed by > removing the section in the draft. > > 6. 6.Addressed comment from Yehia Elkhatib that it is > unclear what the differenece between intent and policy is. Addressed by > updating the Introduction and referencing [CLEMM] draft that describes th= e > difference between service, policy and intent. As well, we updated sectio= n > 4 and sub-sections 4.3, 4.4, 4.5. and 4.6 by making them intent and not > policy focused. > > 7. 7.Addressed comment by Branislav Meandzija that > intent abstraction should be formal. Addressed by explaining in the > Introduction the purpose of this draft and that it is not planned to be a > formal definition of intent. > > 8. 8.Addressed comment from Jerome that the document > could have some concrete examples of intents from different perspectives. > Addressed by adding example to the tables in sections 5.3.1, 5.4.1 and > 5.5.1. > > 9. 9.Updated contributors. > > 10. 10.Fixed document format and typos. > > > > Your comments and contributions are welcome! > > > Best Regards, > > Chen Li > > > ------------------------------ > =E6=9D=8E =E6=99=A8 Li Chen > =E4=B8=AD=E5=9B=BD=E7=94=B5=E4=BF=A1=E6=88=98=E7=95=A5=E4=B8=8E=E5=88=9B= =E6=96=B0=E7=A0=94=E7=A9=B6=E9=99=A2 =E6=88=98=E7=95=A5=E4=B8=8E=E8=A7=84= =E5=88=92=E7=A0=94=E7=A9=B6=E6=89=80 =E7=BD=91=E7=BB=9C=E8=A7=84=E5=88=92= =E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83 > =E7=94=B5=E8=AF=9D=EF=BC=9A010-50902891/18910853955 > =E9=82=AE=E7=AE=B1=EF=BC=9Alichen6@chinatelecom.cn/18910853955@chinatelec= om.cn > =E5=8F=AA=E4=B8=BA=E6=88=90=E5=8A=9F=E6=89=BE=E6=96=B9=E6=B3=95=EF=BC=8C= =E4=B8=8D=E4=B8=BA=E5=A4=B1=E8=B4=A5=E6=89=BE=E5=80=9F=E5=8F=A3 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Chen Li > Network Evolution and Planning Center > Network Technology & Planning Department > Email=EF=BC=9Alichen6@chinatelecom.cn /18910853955@chinatelecom.cn > Tel: +86-10-50902891 > Mobile: +86-18910853955 > --000000000000e00ccb05a5c75655 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear NMRG.
As a co-autor, I support the new version of= the draft.
As commented by Chen, I believe=C2=A0the main comment= s were effectively addressed in this version.
Thus, I think it is= ready for the RG adoption.
Thanks.
Best.
--------------------------------= --------------------
Prof. Dr. J=C3=A9ferson Campos Nobre
Instituto d= e Inform=C3=A1tica
Programa de P=C3=B3s-Gradua=C3=A7=C3=A3o em Co= mputa=C3=A7=C3=A3o
Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
http://www.inf.ufrg= s.br/~jcnobre
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On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:54 AM lichen6@chinatelecom.cn <lichen6@chinatelecom.cn> wrote:
=
Hi,

=C2=A0

As all of you who attended the NMRG call this week know, the conclusion of the discussion was the recommendation fro= m the chairs to publish updated version of the draft and to allow for 2-3 wee= ks for any additional comments before requesting approval to be adopted as a R= G draft.

=C2=A0

We=E2=80=99ve just uploaded to -03 version of intent classification draft according to comments in the list and offline discussions.

=C2=A0

Updates from previous version from November:

1.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.=C2=A0Addressed comments from Laurent, Jerome and Jurgen that the value of the document and the classification tables are not clearly explained. Addressed by updating the introduct= ion section and discussions on the mailing list

2.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.Addressed comment from Jurgen about alignment with the draft-= clemm-nmrg-dist-intent-03. Addressed by updating the draft and referring in the Introduction to [CLEMM] and explain= ing what the scope of each draft.

3.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A03.Ad= dressed comment from Jurgen to clarify if this is a survey. Addressed by replying on the mailing list that it is not meant to b= e a survey.

4.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A04.Addressed comments from Jerome and Laurent about presenting intent classification methodology. Addressed by adding=C2=A0 new sub-sections 5.1 and 5.2.

5.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A05.Addressed comment from Natale Bob that ut is unclear what the purpose is of the policy continuum section.= Addressed by removing the section in the draft.

6.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A06.Addressed comment from Yehia Elkhatib = that it is unclear what the d= ifferenece between intent and policy is. Addressed by updating the Introduction and referencing [CLEMM] draft that describes the difference between service, policy and intent. As well, we updated section = 4 and sub-sections 4.3, 4.4, = 4.5. and 4.6 by making them intent and not policy focused.

7.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A07.Addressed comment by Branislav Meandzi= ja that intent abstraction should be formal.=C2=A0 Addressed by explaining in the Introduction the purpose of this draft and that it is not planned to be a formal definition of intent.

8.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A08.Addressed comment from Jerome that the= document could have some concrete examples of intents from different perspectives. Addressed by adding example to the tables in sections 5.3.1, 5.4.1 and 5.5.1.

9.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A09.Up= dated contributors.

10.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A010.Fixed document format and typos.

=C2=A0

Your comments and contributions are welcome!


Best Regards,

Chen= Li


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Dear NMRG,

 

We'd like to trigger a discussion on *IBN Architecture<= /b>*, as part of the RG work plan, and in preparation of the upcoming NMRG = virtual meeting on 29-05-2020.

 

The work item #4 of our IBN work plan stipulates:

" Design and specify a c= ommon architectural framework comprising requirements, functions and

techniques to realize an arch= etypal IBN system; describe the lifecycle and theory of operations.

 

Goal: determine the elementar= y functional blocks of an IBN system, their interactions, inputs and

outputs; propose different te= chniques applicable for the different functions."

 

We've had some presentations and discussion in past meetin= gs, and also a couple of individual I-Ds related to the topic.

 

In order to foster progress on the work item, we propose a= set of questions and considerations.

We invite you to provide your opinion, comments and feedba= ck on them (or new ones).

 

 

Considerations for Intent-Based Management Architecture= (s)

 

  • Define the problem stat= ement, design goals and challenges, principles and requirements<= /span>
  • Focus on int= ent-* specific aspects, not yet another holistic management framework<= /o:p>
  • = Aim fo= r simplicity, flexibility, extensibility and integrability
  • Consider Service = Based Architecture approach and principles
  • What should be the scope and sys= tem boundaries? What should be the lower boundary of an IBN architecture (w= hat should it configure)? What typical user types should be considered?
  • Should we consider use-case specific IBN = architectures or try to have more generic/common architecture ? (what is th= e right tradeoff or how to find it?)
  • How IBN co-exists with legacy management systems and emerging manageme= nt/automation technologies and frameworks?
  • Should we consider, investigate = and document interoperability between different intent-based systems?<= /o:p>
  • = How sh= ould the NMRG proposition differ from others? (positioning)
     

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear NMRG, We mentioned a few times the intention to participate in the IETF Hackathon= to further develop the practical side of the IBN activity. The work items #5 and #6 of our IBN work plan stipulates respectively: #5 " Define appropriate validation scenarios and use cases describing concr= ete examples of intent expressions and functions. Goal: assess the quality and completeness of specifications and evaluate in= tent-based systems functionalities in experimental settings." #6 "Develop implementations and proof of concepts. Goal: demonstrate the feasibility of the proposed framework and its functio= ns; detect potential design flaws, and provide a basis for interoperability evaluations." As a starting point of this activity, the NMRG held a dedicated interim mee= ting on IBN demos and tools in October 2019, in Roma. The main outcome of the meeting is documented in a report available at: htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-10/materials/slides-int= erim-2019-nmrg-10-sessa-report-nof-nmrg-demo-session Several actions and future directions were identified, such as: - Creation of a code repository including tools/demos description and insta= llation/use guides. - Definition of an IBN tool data sheet and commitment of the meeting partic= ipants to provide documented tool data sheets for their demos. Additional t= ools and proof of concepts have already been identified. - Proposition of the Mapping table and population based on the available us= e cases and demos. - Maintenance and updates to the Overall IBN tools view . - Creation of an IBN Resource Hub to gather scientific publications, standa= rds and industry documentation, and pointers to projects, events and useful= resources on IBN. - Follow-up interactions and further joint development or interconnection b= etween tools presented at the meeting and new ones. The NMRG was also planning to participate in the IETF 108 Hackathon to be h= eld in July 2020 in Madrid on the topic of intent based networking. IETF108= will be an on-line meeting, however, we'd like to keep IETF 108 as a gener= al milestone to define our work on IBN implementation. In order to plan the future steps and mode of operation of the activity, we= 'd like to collect the views, opinion, comments and feedback from the resea= rch group. In particular, we'd like to know more on: - What are the objectives we/you want to achieve with such an activity (hac= kathon, implementation)? - Do you think NMRG should first work on documents (drafts) to set definiti= on and propositions (e.g. architecture) for IBN. - How should it be organized and developed? e.g. virtual hackathon, virtual= teams (off-line collaboration) - Who is willing to take part in the activity?, to do what? (e.g. develop d= emos, tools, etc. ; provide support (SDK, IDE, testbeds, etc.) ; test, eval= uate, lead/animate, etc. - How much resources do you think you could allocate to this activity in th= e next 12 months (in number of days, engineers, students...) - We are planning to organize dedicated calls with interested parties, to s= tart with. Do you think it's a good idea? What else could be proposed? - What kind of outcomes do you expect (short/mid/long term): simple prototy= pe / demo, reference tool/framework... Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. --_000_PR1PR07MB4891BE4E6084098B2D3CF92EF3B80PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear NMRG,

 

We mentioned a few times the intention to participate in t= he IETF Hackathon to further develop the practical side of the IBN activity= .

 

 

The work items #5 and #6 of our IBN work plan stipulates r= espectively:

#5 " Define ap= propriate validation scenarios and use cases describing concrete examples of intent

expressions and functions.

Goal: assess the quality and = completeness of specifications and evaluate intent-based systems=

functionalities in experiment= al settings."

 

#6 "Develop im= plementations and proof of concepts.

Goal: demonstrate the feasibi= lity of the proposed framework and its functions; detect potential

design flaws, and provide a b= asis for interoperability evaluations."

 

 

As a starting point of this activity, the NMRG held a dedi= cated interim meeting on IBN demos and tools in October 2019, in Roma.

The main outcome of the meeting is documented in a report = available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-10/materials/slides-= interim-2019-nmrg-10-sessa-report-nof-nmrg-demo-session

 

Several actions and future directions were identified, suc= h as:

- Creation of a code reposito= ry including tools/demos description and installation/use guides.

- Definition of an IBN tool data sheet and commitment of the meeting participants to pr= ovide documented tool data sheets for their demos. Additional tools and pro= of of concepts have already been identified.

- Proposition of the Mapping table and population based on the available use cases and de= mos.

- Maintenance and updates to = the Overall IBN tools view .

- Creation of an IBN Resource Hub to gather scientific publications, standards and in= dustry documentation, and pointers to projects, events and useful resources= on IBN.

- Follow-up interactions and = further joint development or interconnection between tools presented at the= meeting and new ones.

The NMRG was also planning to= participate in the IETF 108 Hackathon to be held in July 2020 in Madrid on= the topic of intent based networking. IETF108 will be an on-line meeting, however, we'd like to keep IETF 108 as a general mi= lestone to define our work on IBN implementation.

 

 

In order to plan the future steps and mode of operation of= the activity, we'd like to collect the views, opinion, comments and feedba= ck from the research group.

In particular, we'd like to know more on:

- What are the objectives we/= you want to achieve with such an activity (hackathon, implementation)?=

- Do you think NMRG should fi= rst work on documents (drafts) to set definition and propositions (e.g. arc= hitecture) for IBN.
- How should it be organized and developed? e.g. virtual hackathon, virtual= teams (off-line collaboration)

- Who is willing to take part= in the activity?, to do what? (e.g. develop demos, tools, etc. ; provide s= upport (SDK, IDE, testbeds, etc.) ; test, evaluate, lead/animate, etc.

- How much resources do you t= hink you could allocate to this activity in the next 12 months (in number o= f days, engineers, students...)

- We are planning to organize= dedicated calls with interested parties, to start with. Do you think it's = a good idea? What else could be proposed?

- What kind of outcomes do yo= u expect (short/mid/long term): simple prototype / demo, reference tool/fra= mework…

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

 

 

 

--_000_PR1PR07MB4891BE4E6084098B2D3CF92EF3B80PR1PR07MB4891eurp_-- From nobody Tue May 19 10:33:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73043A0CFA; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:33:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iq-N-QBwjZoM; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 790513A0CF8; Tue, 19 May 2020 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.73,410,1583190000"; d="scan'208";a="349097481" Received: from 5-49-187-0.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr (HELO [192.168.1.94]) ([5.49.187.0]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 19 May 2020 19:33:32 +0200 To: "nmrg@irtf.org" Cc: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= Message-ID: <76087b69-c158-8e4f-13ea-45ebf3e93b54@inria.fr> Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 19:33:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: fr Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] Research Challenges in Artificial Intelligence for Network Management X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 17:33:40 -0000 Dear all, As presented in last NMRG meeting, we have a shared document on the research challenges document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQOzZustI2mkYr_omtiqu3FqUvoqLgaCp7nbRj4ZJyw/edit The document contains also instructions if you want to contribute. It is very important to identify yourself if you are willing to contribute. We start by documenting goals of AI in NM and research challenges. For each challenge, we expect to answer the following questions: - How to describe the challenge in a few sentences? - What makes a challenge specific/particular in the context of NM? - Why is it so challenging? - What are the main locks? (technical, organizational, societal,educational, business...) - What are the advances in our domain? (provide references) - What are the advances in other domains on similar challenges? Do they perform better/less? Why? - Can we take benefit or be inspired from other domains? Of course, we do no expect everything to be answered at this stage and some sentences are enough to describe your interest.  You can also comment other contributions. 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Selected papers from NBIoT 2020, after further revisions, will be published in the special issue of the following journal. * International Journal of Computer Networks & Communications (IJCNC) -- Scopus, ERA Indexed * Machine Learning and Applications: An International Journal (MLAIJ) * International Journal of Network Security & Its Applications (IJNSA) (ERA Indexed) * International Journal of Wireless & Mobile Networks (IJWMN)(ERA Indexed) Important Dates * Submission Deadline :May 24, 2020 * Authors Notification : June 05, 2020 * Registration & camera -- Ready Paper Due :June 10, 2020 Contact Us Here's where you can reach us : nbiot@acsty2020.org(or) confnbiot@yahoo.com --00000000000040b11c05a6111bde Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
International Conference on Networks= , Blockchain and Internet of Things (NBIoT 2020)
June 20~21, 2020, Dubai= , UAE
https://csita20= 20.org/nbiot/index.html
Scope
International Conference on Networ= ks, Blockchain and Internet of Things (NBIoT 2020) will provide an excellen= t international forum for sharing knowledge and results in theory, methodol= ogy and applications of Networks , Blockchain and Internet of Things. The C= onference looks for significant contributions to all major fields of the Ne= tworks, Blockchain and Internet of Things in theoretical and practical aspe= cts.
Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following*=C2=A0Block Chain issues and trends
*=C2=A0Blockchain Attacks on Exis= ting Systems
*=C2=A0Blockchain Consensus Algorithms
*=C2=A0Blockchain= Foundations
*=C2=A0Blockchain New Design
*=C2=A0Blockchain Privacy*=C2=A0Blockchain Scalability
*=C2=A0Blockchain-based security for the= IoT
*=C2=A0IoT Connectivity and Networking
*=C2=A0Electronics and Si= gnal processing for IoT
*=C2=A0IoT Experimental Results and Deployment S= cenarios
*=C2=A0IoT Applications and Services
*=C2=A0IoT Security and= Privacy
*=C2=A0IoT-enabled Innovation and Entrepreneurship
*=C2=A0Ne= twork Protocols & Wireless Networks
*=C2=A0Network Architectures
= *=C2=A0High speed networks
*=C2=A0Routing, switching and addressing tech= niques
*=C2=A0Next Generation Internet
*=C2=A0Next Generation Web Arc= hitectures
*=C2=A0Network Operations & management
*=C2=A0Adhoc an= d sensor networks
*=C2=A0Internet and Web applications
*=C2=A0Ubiquit= ous networks
*=C2=A0Mobile networks & Wireless LAN
*=C2=A0Wireles= s Multimedia systems
*=C2=A0Wireless communications
*=C2=A0Heterogene= ous wireless networks
*=C2=A0Measurement & Performance Analysis
*= =C2=A0Peer to peer and overlay networks
*=C2=A0QoS and Resource Manageme= nt
*=C2=A0Network Based applications
*=C2=A0Network Security
*=C2= =A0Self-Organizing Networks and Networked Systems
*=C2=A0Optical Network= ing
*=C2=A0Mobile & Broadband Wireless Internet
*=C2=A0Recent tre= nds & Developments in Computer Networks
Paper Submission
Authors= are invited to submit papers through the conference Submission System by M= ay 24, 2020. Submissions must be original and should not have been publishe= d previously or be under consideration for publication while being evaluate= d for this conference. The proceedings of the conference will be published = by Computer Science Conference Proceedings in Computer Science & Inform= ation Technology (CS & IT) series (Confirmed).
Selected papers from = NBIoT 2020, after further revisions, will be published in the special issue= of the following journal.
*=C2=A0International Journal of Computer Netw= orks & Communications (IJCNC) -- Scopus, ERA Indexed
*=C2=A0Machine = Learning and Applications: An International Journal (MLAIJ)
*=C2=A0Inter= national Journal of Network Security & Its Applications (IJNSA) (ERA In= dexed)
*=C2=A0International Journal of Wireless & Mobile Networks (I= JWMN)(ERA Indexed)
Important Dates
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*=C2=A0Authors Notification : June 05, 2020
*=C2=A0Registrati= on & camera -- Ready Paper Due :June 10, 2020
Contact Us
Here'= ;s where you can reach us : nbiot@ac= sty2020.org(or) confnbiot@yahoo.= com
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, This is a gentle reminder: IBN architecture is on the agenda of our virtual= meeting on Friday 25-05-2020. It would be nice to get (written) feedback o= n the questions, or be prepared to give your opinion during the meeting. Thank you. J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:14 To: nmrg@irtf.org Cc: 'nmrg-chairs@irtf.org' Subject: Discussion on IBN Architecture Dear NMRG, We'd like to trigger a discussion on *IBN Architecture*, as part of the RG = work plan, and in preparation of the upcoming NMRG virtual meeting on 29-05= -2020. The work item #4 of our IBN work plan stipulates: " Design and specify a common architectural framework comprising requiremen= ts, functions and techniques to realize an archetypal IBN system; describe the lifecycle and = theory of operations. Goal: determine the elementary functional blocks of an IBN system, their in= teractions, inputs and outputs; propose different techniques applicable for the different function= s." We've had some presentations and discussion in past meetings, and also a co= uple of individual I-Ds related to the topic. In order to foster progress on the work item, we propose a set of questions= and considerations. We invite you to provide your opinion, comments and feedback on them (or ne= w ones). Considerations for Intent-Based Management Architecture(s) * Define the problem statement, design goals and challenges, principles= and requirements * Focus on intent-* specific aspects, not yet another holistic manageme= nt framework * Aim for simplicity, flexibility, extensibility and integrability * Consider Service Based Architecture approach and principles * What should be the scope and system boundaries? What should be the lo= wer boundary of an IBN architecture (what should it configure)? What typica= l user types should be considered? * Should we consider use-case specific IBN architectures or try to have= more generic/common architecture ? (what is the right tradeoff or how to f= ind it?) * How IBN co-exists with legacy management systems and emerging managem= ent/automation technologies and frameworks? * Should we consider, investigate and document interoperability between= different intent-based systems? * How should the NMRG proposition differ from others? (positioning) Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. --_000_PR1PR07MB4891F45A5AF5F139C0A3ADE0F3B00PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everyone,

 

This is a gentle reminder: IBN architecture = is on the agenda of our virtual meeting on Friday 25-05-2020. It would be n= ice to get (written) feedback on the questions, or be prepared to give your opinion during the meeting.<= /p>

 

Thank you.

J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

 

From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa= clay)
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:14
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: 'nmrg-chairs@irtf.org' <nmrg-chairs@irtf.org>
Subject: Discussion on IBN Architecture

 

Dear NMRG,

 

We'd like to trigger a discussion on *IBN Architecture<= /b>*, as part of the RG work plan, and in preparation of the upcoming NMRG = virtual meeting on 29-05-2020.

 

The work item #4 of our IBN work plan stipulates:

" Design and specify a c= ommon architectural framework comprising requirements, functions and

techniques to realize an arch= etypal IBN system; describe the lifecycle and theory of operations.

 

Goal: determine the elementar= y functional blocks of an IBN system, their interactions, inputs and

outputs; propose different te= chniques applicable for the different functions."

 

We've had some presentations and discussion in past meetin= gs, and also a couple of individual I-Ds related to the topic.

 

In order to foster progress on the work item, we propose a= set of questions and considerations.

We invite you to provide your opinion, comments and feedba= ck on them (or new ones).

 

 

Considerations for Intent-Based Management Architecture= (s)

 

  • Define the problem stat= ement, design goals and challenges, principles and requirements<= /span>
  • Focus on int= ent-* specific aspects, not yet another holistic management framework<= /o:p>
  • = Aim fo= r simplicity, flexibility, extensibility and integrability
  • Consider Service = Based Architecture approach and principles
  • What should be the scope and sys= tem boundaries? What should be the lower boundary of an IBN architecture (w= hat should it configure)? What typical user types should be considered?
  • Should we consider use-case specific IBN = architectures or try to have more generic/common architecture ? (what is th= e right tradeoff or how to find it?)
  • How IBN co-exists with legacy management systems and emerging manageme= nt/automation technologies and frameworks?
  • Should we consider, investigate = and document interoperability between different intent-based systems?<= /o:p>
  • = How sh= ould the NMRG proposition differ from others? (positioning)
     

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: 8+FiYenO/cFOdBMIPTOL1AHSiziodQgBFn6tNdP/Dib0kRrQ38EO2/6vFknS1SkzUe+fJYGPxmhjR9L+aOKoscaN5fCl9+JSUmMKYgM3bLc= X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: PR1PR07MB5099 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Discussion on IBN (virtual) Hackathon X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 16:32:33 -0000 --_000_PR1PR07MB48917F5A599AFDA396B1F88EF3B00PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, This is a gentle reminder: the IBN use cases and implementation/virtual hac= kathon are on the agenda of our upcoming meeting (29-05-2020). It would be nice to hear from you on the questions listed at the bottom of = the message. Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:19 To: nmrg@irtf.org Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org Subject: Discussion on IBN (virtual) Hackathon Dear NMRG, We mentioned a few times the intention to participate in the IETF Hackathon= to further develop the practical side of the IBN activity. The work items #5 and #6 of our IBN work plan stipulates respectively: #5 " Define appropriate validation scenarios and use cases describing concr= ete examples of intent expressions and functions. Goal: assess the quality and completeness of specifications and evaluate in= tent-based systems functionalities in experimental settings." #6 "Develop implementations and proof of concepts. Goal: demonstrate the feasibility of the proposed framework and its functio= ns; detect potential design flaws, and provide a basis for interoperability evaluations." As a starting point of this activity, the NMRG held a dedicated interim mee= ting on IBN demos and tools in October 2019, in Roma. The main outcome of the meeting is documented in a report available at: htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-10/materials/slides-int= erim-2019-nmrg-10-sessa-report-nof-nmrg-demo-session Several actions and future directions were identified, such as: - Creation of a code repository including tools/demos description and insta= llation/use guides. - Definition of an IBN tool data sheet and commitment of the meeting partic= ipants to provide documented tool data sheets for their demos. Additional t= ools and proof of concepts have already been identified. - Proposition of the Mapping table and population based on the available us= e cases and demos. - Maintenance and updates to the Overall IBN tools view . - Creation of an IBN Resource Hub to gather scientific publications, standa= rds and industry documentation, and pointers to projects, events and useful= resources on IBN. - Follow-up interactions and further joint development or interconnection b= etween tools presented at the meeting and new ones. The NMRG was also planning to participate in the IETF 108 Hackathon to be h= eld in July 2020 in Madrid on the topic of intent based networking. IETF108= will be an on-line meeting, however, we'd like to keep IETF 108 as a gener= al milestone to define our work on IBN implementation. In order to plan the future steps and mode of operation of the activity, we= 'd like to collect the views, opinion, comments and feedback from the resea= rch group. In particular, we'd like to know more on: - What are the objectives we/you want to achieve with such an activity (hac= kathon, implementation)? - Do you think NMRG should first work on documents (drafts) to set definiti= on and propositions (e.g. architecture) for IBN. - How should it be organized and developed? e.g. virtual hackathon, virtual= teams (off-line collaboration) - Who is willing to take part in the activity?, to do what? (e.g. develop d= emos, tools, etc. ; provide support (SDK, IDE, testbeds, etc.) ; test, eval= uate, lead/animate, etc. - How much resources do you think you could allocate to this activity in th= e next 12 months (in number of days, engineers, students...) - We are planning to organize dedicated calls with interested parties, to s= tart with. Do you think it's a good idea? What else could be proposed? - What kind of outcomes do you expect (short/mid/long term): simple prototy= pe / demo, reference tool/framework... Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent. --_000_PR1PR07MB48917F5A599AFDA396B1F88EF3B00PR1PR07MB4891eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

This is a gentle reminder: the IBN use cases= and implementation/virtual hackathon are on the agenda of our upcoming mee= ting (29-05-2020).

It would be nice to hear from you on the que= stions listed at the bottom of the message.

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.=

 

From: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Sa= clay)
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:19
To: nmrg@irtf.org
Cc: nmrg-chairs@irtf.org
Subject: Discussion on IBN (virtual) Hackathon

 

Dear NMRG,

 

We mentioned a few times the intention to participate in t= he IETF Hackathon to further develop the practical side of the IBN activity= .

 

 

The work items #5 and #6 of our IBN work plan stipulates r= espectively:

#5 " Define ap= propriate validation scenarios and use cases describing concrete examples of intent

expressions and functions.

Goal: assess the quality and = completeness of specifications and evaluate intent-based systems=

functionalities in experiment= al settings."

 

#6 "Develop im= plementations and proof of concepts.

Goal: demonstrate the feasibi= lity of the proposed framework and its functions; detect potential

design flaws, and provide a b= asis for interoperability evaluations."

 

 

As a starting point of this activity, the NMRG held a dedi= cated interim meeting on IBN demos and tools in October 2019, in Roma.

The main outcome of the meeting is documented in a report = available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-nmrg-10/materials/slides-= interim-2019-nmrg-10-sessa-report-nof-nmrg-demo-session

 

Several actions and future directions were identified, suc= h as:

- Creation of a code reposito= ry including tools/demos description and installation/use guides.

- Definition of an IBN tool data sheet and commitment of the meeting participants to pr= ovide documented tool data sheets for their demos. Additional tools and pro= of of concepts have already been identified.

- Proposition of the Mapping table and population based on the available use cases and de= mos.

- Maintenance and updates to = the Overall IBN tools view .

- Creation of an IBN Resource Hub to gather scientific publications, standards and in= dustry documentation, and pointers to projects, events and useful resources= on IBN.

- Follow-up interactions and = further joint development or interconnection between tools presented at the= meeting and new ones.

The NMRG was also planning to= participate in the IETF 108 Hackathon to be held in July 2020 in Madrid on= the topic of intent based networking. IETF108 will be an on-line meeting, however, we'd like to keep IETF 108 as a general mi= lestone to define our work on IBN implementation.

 

 

In order to plan the future steps and mode of operation of= the activity, we'd like to collect the views, opinion, comments and feedba= ck from the research group.

In particular, we'd like to know more on:

- What are the objectives we/= you want to achieve with such an activity (hackathon, implementation)?=

- Do you think NMRG should fi= rst work on documents (drafts) to set definition and propositions (e.g. arc= hitecture) for IBN.
- How should it be organized and developed? e.g. virtual hackathon, virtual= teams (off-line collaboration)

- Who is willing to take part= in the activity?, to do what? (e.g. develop demos, tools, etc. ; provide s= upport (SDK, IDE, testbeds, etc.) ; test, evaluate, lead/animate, etc.

- How much resources do you t= hink you could allocate to this activity in the next 12 months (in number o= f days, engineers, students...)

- We are planning to organize= dedicated calls with interested parties, to start with. Do you think it's = a good idea? What else could be proposed?

- What= kind of outcomes do you expect (short/mid/long term): simple prototype / d= emo, reference tool/framework…

 

Best regards, J=E9r=F4me & Laurent.<= /p>

 

 

 

 

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