From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Mon May 01 12:57:13 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fabhx-00080G-AR for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:57:13 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fabhv-0003Hd-Te for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 12:57:13 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k41Fog1u001652; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k41FogXt001651; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ihtfp.org (MAIL.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.6]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k41FofZC001636 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from warlord@MIT.EDU) Received: from cliodev.pgp.com (c-68-61-71-137.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.61.71.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cliodev.ihtfp.com", Issuer "IHTFP Consulting Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mail.ihtfp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B39BD8378 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 11:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from warlord@localhost) by cliodev.pgp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k41FTMsb005922; Mon, 1 May 2006 11:29:22 -0400 From: Derek Atkins To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: REMINDER: WGLC: draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16 ends THIS WED References: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:29:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Derek Atkins's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:17:08 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a Just a reminder that the WGLC ends THIS WEDNESDAY! That means you have just two more days to read and comment on this draft. -derek Derek Atkins writes: > Hi, all > > As you've noticed, bis16 has been released. I believe that there > are no open issues with this version, so I hereby initiate a > Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16 > to end two weeks from today at Wednesday, May 3, 2006. Please > get your comments in by 7pm US/EDT (2300Z). > > You can obtain the draft from: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16.txt > > Please send comments to me and either to the editor and/or to the list. > > Thanks! > > -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Wed May 03 18:54:10 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FbQET-0001Nm-JP for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 18:54:09 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FbQES-000767-0I for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 18:54:09 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MUPE3050595; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k43MUPS4050594; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MUOT7050586 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k43MUGk17987 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:16 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MWeBN012833 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:32:40 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k43MUACQ019218 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k43MUAJ6019217 for ietf-openpgp@imc.org; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 From: David Shaw To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Last minute language nit on clear signing Message-ID: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Squeaking in under the wire. Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable without special software. Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." (i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). David From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Thu May 04 20:18:34 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fbo1i-0006rT-Rb for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 20:18:34 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fbo1h-0006AP-Ah for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 20:18:34 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k44NqmRJ024344; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k44NqmjT024343; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k44NqlDN024337 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7); Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 04 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Thu, 04 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> References: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: Last minute language nit on clear signing Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:43 -0700 To: David Shaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 On 3 May 2006, at 3:30 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Squeaking in under the wire. > > Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: > > It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII > armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable > without special software. > > Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." > > (i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). > That really is a nit, and one that I disagree with. I will also admit to crotchetiness today. Saying "X is desirable" does not imply "~X is undesirable." There is a middle ground between, "It's desirable to be able to park at the airport" and "Taxis should be banned." Saying, I like ice cream does not imply that I hate flan. I read that 'graph as saying "Clearsigning, good." That's it. Here's a counterproposal: "It is desirable to be able to sign..." thus explicitly saying that it's an option. How's that? Better, worse than yours? Or should we just leave it as is? Jon From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Fri May 05 00:40:06 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fbs6o-0001kS-JD for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 00:40:06 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fbs6o-0007ci-7d for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 00:40:06 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454Llff036709; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k454LlbY036708; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454LiZC036701 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k454Lgk27615; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:42 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454OBfd024241; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:24:11 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k454LZ1F021833; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:35 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k454LZsj021832; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:34 -0400 From: David Shaw To: Jon Callas Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Re: Last minute language nit on clear signing Message-ID: <20060505042134.GA21317@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon Callas , ietf-openpgp@imc.org References: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 04:52:43PM -0700, Jon Callas wrote: > > > On 3 May 2006, at 3:30 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > > > >Squeaking in under the wire. > > > >Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: > > > > It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII > > armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable > > without special software. > > > >Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." > > > >(i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). > > > > That really is a nit, and one that I disagree with. I will also admit > to crotchetiness today. > > Saying "X is desirable" does not imply "~X is undesirable." There is > a middle ground between, "It's desirable to be able to park at the > airport" and "Taxis should be banned." Saying, I like ice cream does > not imply that I hate flan. I read that 'graph as saying > "Clearsigning, good." That's it. The text struck me as implying "Clearsigning, you should" (as in it is desirable to clearsign in preference to the other type of signing). Total nit, of course, and I doubt anyone actually thinks that, but there was a small "huh?" pause when I read past that section. > Here's a counterproposal: "It is desirable to be able to sign..." > thus explicitly saying that it's an option. How's that? Better, worse > than yours? Or should we just leave it as is? I like your solution better. David From divyadrishti@rltconsulting.com Fri May 05 15:13:18 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fc5jq-0001Mp-JS for openpgp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 15:13:18 -0400 Received: from [84.90.25.140] (helo=localhost) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fc5jX-0001UE-9g for openpgp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 05 May 2006 15:13:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c670a2$5897e400$0100007f@localhost> From: "Marcus Barnes" To: Subject: Don't get left behind! 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: bis-16 comments Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:30 -0700 To: David Shaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b1c41982e167b872076d0018e4e1dc3c On 25 Apr 2006, at 8:12 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Section 5.1.2, Signature Types, says: > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which are > specified in a signature type octet in any given signature. See > section 5.2.4, "Computing Signatures," for detailed information on > how to compute and verify signatures of each type. > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which may > be indicated in a signature type octet in any given signature. > Please note that the vagueness of these meanings is not a flaw, > but > a feature of the system. Because OpenPGP places final authority > for > validity upon the receiver of a signature, it may be that one > signer's casual act might be more rigorous than some other > authority's positive act. > > The two opening sentences are redundant. Suggest: > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which are > indicated in a signature type octet in any given signature. > Please note that the vagueness of these meanings is not a flaw, > but a feature of the system. Because OpenPGP places final > authority > for validity upon the receiver of a signature, it may be that one > signer's casual act might be more rigorous than some other > authority's positive act. See section 5.2.4, "Computing > Signatures," for detailed information on how to compute and verify > signatures of each type. > > (Combining the two) > Done. > ******************* > > Section 5.2.2, Version 3 Signature Packet Format has a sentence that > reads "The details of the calculation are different for DSA signature > than for RSA signatures." That should be "DSA signatures" (plural). > Done. > ******************* > > In section 5.2.3.12. Revocable, the second sentence reads "Packet body > contains a Boolean flag indicating whether the signature is > revocable." Suggest adding a "The" to read "The packet body > contains..." > Done. > ******************* > > In section 9.3. Compression Algorithms, suggest adding: > > Algorithm 0, "uncompressed," may only be used to denote a > preference for uncompressed data in the preferred compression > algorithms subpacket (section 5.2.3.9). Implementations MUST NOT > use uncompressed in Compressed Data Packets. > > (We had the same problem with using cipher algorithm 0 in encrypted > data packets, and made that MUST NOT as well) > I want to quibble over this one. The reason we don't allow 0 in encrypted packets is because we don't want to have "encrypted" data. It's a security reason. There's no security reason here. While it's perhaps stupid to make a compressed packet that has no compression (you could just have a literal packet), there is no *security* reason to object to it. Also, there's no particular code reason to object to it, either; you have to handle the case, and rather than error out, why not just proceed? Since these are the last call edits and this change could cause code changes -- someone who was handing compression-uncompressed would now have to make this an error, I'm not taking the edit. > ******************* > > In section 10.2. OpenPGP Messages, the paragraph beginning "In > addition, decrypting a Symmetrically Encrypted Data Packet" has a > blank line in the middle of the paragraph. > Done. > ******************* > > Section 12.5, DSA, has a sentence that reads "It MUST NOT implement a > DSA signature with a q size of less than 160 bits." That should be a > "DSA key" rather than a "DSA signature". > Done. > ******************* > > Section 13, Security Considerations says: > > * SHA384 requires the same work as SHA512. In general, there are > few reasons to use it -- you need a situation where one needs > more security than SHA256, but does not want to have the 512-bit > data length. > > Suggest: > > * SHA224 and SHA384 require the same work as SHA256 and SHA512 > respectively. In general, there are few reasons to use them > outside of DSS compatibility. You need a situation where one > needs more security than smaller hashes, but does not want to > have the full 256-bit or 512-bit data length. > Done, but I made them "SHA-" because if I don't, you'll find that nit in IETF Last Call. :-) > David > Jon From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Mon May 08 18:30:57 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdEFl-0006nG-GG for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdEFl-0005TU-45 for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 18:30:57 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M4QrK066729; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k48M4QEA066728; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M4PUm066714 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7) for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 08 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 08 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) References: <192E2551-1E74-478E-969F-D84AE29E2D24@callas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7C98DD8C-6F6C-461E-8A13-5B848CE04060@callas.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Fwd: Mistake in section 5.3, also in RFC2440 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:20 -0700 To: OpenPGP X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 I forgot to reply-all Jon Begin forwarded message: > From: Jon Callas > Date: 8 May 2006 2:40:03 PM PDT > To: Hal Finney > Subject: Re: Mistake in section 5.3, also in RFC2440 > > > On 25 Apr 2006, at 7:28 PM, Hal Finney wrote: > >> >> I noticed that the language in section 5.3 on Symmetric-Key Encrypted >> Session Key packets is not right: >> >> 5.3. Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key Packets (Tag 3) >> >> The Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key packet holds the >> symmetric-key encryption of a session key used to encrypt a >> message. >> Zero or more Encrypted Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key >> Encrypted Session Key packets may precede a Symmetrically >> Encrypted >> Data Packet that holds an encrypted message. >> >> The second sentence should begin "Zero or more Public-Key Encrypted >> Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key >> Packets..." >> It left off "Public-Key" and just refers to "Encrypted Session Key >> packets" which is not a packet type. In particular, referring to >> "Encrypted Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session >> Key Packets" is incoherent. >> >> The langage in 5.1, for comparsion: >> >> 5.1. Public-Key Encrypted Session Key Packets (Tag 1) >> >> A Public-Key Encrypted Session Key packet holds the session >> key used >> to encrypt a message. Zero or more Encrypted Session Key packets >> (either Public-Key or Symmetric-Key) may precede a Symmetrically >> Encrypted Data Packet, which holds an encrypted message. >> >> This is not ideal in terms of the packet names; you have to mentally >> move the prefixes listed in the parenthesis up and put them in >> front of >> Encrypted Session Key. But given that slight lapse in clarity, it is >> basically correct, and is not as bad as 5.3. >> >> All this language is unchanged since RFC2440. >> >> I do think we should fix at least 5.3, because the present wording is >> meaningless and confusing. If we do that I'd suggest changing the >> 2nd >> sentence of 5.1 to match that of 5.3. >> >> Hal Finney >> > > Done. > > Jon From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Mon May 08 18:35:30 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdEKA-0000Fy-FQ for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 18:35:30 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdEKA-0005Zd-2w for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 May 2006 18:35:30 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M34xV066645; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k48M34Uh066644; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M33Tm066638 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7) for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 08 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 08 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: OpenPGP From: Jon Callas Subject: bis17 is out Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 It includes all the changes to bis16, as well as one other; a new section to 12. The problem is that OpenPGP uses PKCS#1, and the most recent PKCS#1 RFC, 3447 changes some conventions. For our purposes, the obsoleted one, 2437, is most correct. Normative references to an obsolete RFC are a problem, so we put in a section to describe how we do it, while making proper reference to 3447. As part of this, I changed all uses of "PKCS-1" to "PKCS#1" as that seems to be the most proper thing to call it. I missed one of these, which will be changed in bis18. Jon From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Tue May 09 10:03:42 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdSoQ-0000gu-Ca for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:03:42 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdSoN-0002IE-W4 for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:03:42 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49DV4k6003801; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49DV4t3003800; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ihtfp.org (MAIL.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.6]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49DV3ZY003793 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from warlord@MIT.EDU) Received: from cliodev.pgp.com (CLIODEV.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cliodev.ihtfp.com", Issuer "IHTFP Consulting Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mail.ihtfp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7389BD8387; Tue, 9 May 2006 09:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from warlord@localhost) by cliodev.pgp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k49DUpmI030603; Tue, 9 May 2006 09:30:51 -0400 From: Derek Atkins To: Jon Callas Cc: OpenPGP Subject: Re: bis17 is out References: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:30:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> (Jon Callas's message of "Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:01 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Jon Callas writes: > It includes all the changes to bis16, as well as one other; a new > section to 12. > > The problem is that OpenPGP uses PKCS#1, and the most recent PKCS#1 > RFC, 3447 changes some conventions. For our purposes, the obsoleted > one, 2437, is most correct. Normative references to an obsolete RFC > are a problem, so we put in a section to describe how we do it, while > making proper reference to 3447. > > As part of this, I changed all uses of "PKCS-1" to "PKCS#1" as that > seems to be the most proper thing to call it. I missed one of these, > which will be changed in bis18. It seems like we've made it through WGLC with no substantive issues. So I hereby call 2440bis "done". I'll formerly request that Sam present it to the IESG later this week. Jon, if you intend to issue a bis18 then I'll wait, but if it's just a simple edit we could send bis17 with the editor note to make the change you missed. Please let me know your intension. > Jon -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Tue May 09 12:04:26 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdUhG-0003r2-E7 for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 12:04:26 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdTdv-000522-79 for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:56:55 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdTMo-00085Q-Bp for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 10:39:18 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E5thS005048; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49E5tcs005047; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E5sUE005041 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k49E5ik24386; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:44 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E8Uh8006395; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:08:30 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k49E5cur024332; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k49E5cDq024331; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 From: David Shaw To: Jon Callas Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Re: bis-16 comments Message-ID: <20060509140538.GB24267@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon Callas , ietf-openpgp@imc.org References: <20060426031250.GA11005@jabberwocky.com> <5E8B7F7D-6CE1-4F5F-98DE-31E61B13D2D4@callas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E8B7F7D-6CE1-4F5F-98DE-31E61B13D2D4@callas.org> OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Scan-Signature: ea4ac80f790299f943f0a53be7e1a21a On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:52:30PM -0700, Jon Callas wrote: > >In section 9.3. Compression Algorithms, suggest adding: > > > > Algorithm 0, "uncompressed," may only be used to denote a > > preference for uncompressed data in the preferred compression > > algorithms subpacket (section 5.2.3.9). Implementations MUST NOT > > use uncompressed in Compressed Data Packets. > > > >(We had the same problem with using cipher algorithm 0 in encrypted > >data packets, and made that MUST NOT as well) > > > > I want to quibble over this one. > > The reason we don't allow 0 in encrypted packets is because we don't > want to have "encrypted" data. It's a security reason. There's no > security reason here. While it's perhaps stupid to make a compressed > packet that has no compression (you could just have a literal > packet), there is no *security* reason to object to it. > > Also, there's no particular code reason to object to it, either; you > have to handle the case, and rather than error out, why not just > proceed? You're right. It's better left out. David From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Tue May 09 16:12:16 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYZ6-0001NW-Fx for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYZ6-0003Av-2g for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:12:16 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49Jo9mU021336; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49Jo9VX021335; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from cypress.neustar.com (cypress.neustar.com [209.173.57.84]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49Jo9hL021329 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@ietf.org) Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by cypress.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k49Jo167015521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 May 2006 19:50:01 GMT Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYDZ-0005Qa-C2; Tue, 09 May 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt Message-Id: Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8de5f93cb2b4e3bee75302e9eacc33db --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the An Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy Working Group of the IETF. Title : OpenPGP Message Format Author(s) : J. Callas, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt Pages : 77 Date : 2006-5-9 This document is maintained in order to publish all necessary information needed to develop interoperable applications based on the OpenPGP format. It is not a step-by-step cookbook for writing an application. It describes only the format and methods needed to read, check, generate, and write conforming packets crossing any network. It does not deal with storage and implementation questions. It does, however, discuss implementation issues necessary to avoid security flaws. OpenPGP software uses a combination of strong public-key and symmetric cryptography to provide security services for electronic communications and data storage. These services include confidentiality, key management, authentication, and digital signatures. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-5-9124819.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-5-9124819.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Tue May 09 16:31:30 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYri-0003FI-DD for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:31:30 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYri-0004Pv-Bp for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:31:30 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYkx-0003PI-UF for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 16:24:35 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49K2SYO021862; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49K2SMt021861; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49K2RtA021855 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7); Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:27 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Tue, 09 May 2006 13:02:26 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Tue, 09 May 2006 13:02:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <837B2BD6-C882-4FE9-8132-D3A3AE6C4C20@callas.org> Cc: OpenPGP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: bis17 is out Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:27 -0700 To: Derek Atkins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 On 9 May 2006, at 6:30 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > It seems like we've made it through WGLC with no substantive issues. > So I hereby call 2440bis "done". I'll formerly request that Sam > present it to the IESG later this week. > > Jon, if you intend to issue a bis18 then I'll wait, but if it's just > a simple edit we could send bis17 with the editor note to make the > change you missed. Please let me know your intension. > The latter. The *only* change is the one place where "PKCS-1" should be "PKCS#1". The RFC editor can do that (they'll do their own edits as it is), and even if it becomes an RFC with that flaw, it's a good flaw to have. Jon From owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Tue May 09 19:32:16 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fdbge-0007EK-2E for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 19:32:16 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fdbgc-0004GM-Nb for openpgp-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 May 2006 19:32:16 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49NAuSi027983; Tue, 9 May 2006 16:10:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49NAuR2027982; Tue, 9 May 2006 16:10:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49NAr2K027975 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 16:10:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7) for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 16:10:52 -0700 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([63.251.255.85]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Tue, 09 May 2006 16:10:52 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Tue, 09 May 2006 16:10:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <51066FCD-9783-4CF3-B412-4E1FB07BB8C5@callas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: OpenPGP From: Jon Callas Subject: bis18 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:10:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8ac499381112328dd60aea5b1ff596ea Typos corrected in the reference to RFC 3447. I forgot to put in the addition to clearsigning that David Shaw and I worked out. 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This draft is a work item of the An Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy Working Group of the IETF. Title : OpenPGP Message Format Author(s) : J. Callas, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-18.txt Pages : 77 Date : 2006-5-10 This document is maintained in order to publish all necessary information needed to develop interoperable applications based on the OpenPGP format. It is not a step-by-step cookbook for writing an application. It describes only the format and methods needed to read, check, generate, and write conforming packets crossing any network. It does not deal with storage and implementation questions. It does, however, discuss implementation issues necessary to avoid security flaws. OpenPGP software uses a combination of strong public-key and symmetric cryptography to provide security services for electronic communications and data storage. These services include confidentiality, key management, authentication, and digital signatures. 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I forgot to put in the addition to clearsigning that David Shaw and I worked out. Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49K2SYO021862; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49K2SMt021861; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49K2RtA021855 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7); Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:27 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Tue, 09 May 2006 13:02:26 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Tue, 09 May 2006 13:02:26 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <837B2BD6-C882-4FE9-8132-D3A3AE6C4C20@callas.org> Cc: OpenPGP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: bis17 is out Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 13:02:27 -0700 To: Derek Atkins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On 9 May 2006, at 6:30 AM, Derek Atkins wrote: > It seems like we've made it through WGLC with no substantive issues. > So I hereby call 2440bis "done". I'll formerly request that Sam > present it to the IESG later this week. > > Jon, if you intend to issue a bis18 then I'll wait, but if it's just > a simple edit we could send bis17 with the editor note to make the > change you missed. Please let me know your intension. > The latter. The *only* change is the one place where "PKCS-1" should be "PKCS#1". The RFC editor can do that (they'll do their own edits as it is), and even if it becomes an RFC with that flaw, it's a good flaw to have. Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49Jo9mU021336; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49Jo9VX021335; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from cypress.neustar.com (cypress.neustar.com [209.173.57.84]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49Jo9hL021329 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@ietf.org) Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by cypress.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k49Jo167015521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 May 2006 19:50:01 GMT Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FdYDZ-0005Qa-C2; Tue, 09 May 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt Message-Id: Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the An Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy Working Group of the IETF. Title : OpenPGP Message Format Author(s) : J. Callas, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt Pages : 77 Date : 2006-5-9 This document is maintained in order to publish all necessary information needed to develop interoperable applications based on the OpenPGP format. It is not a step-by-step cookbook for writing an application. It describes only the format and methods needed to read, check, generate, and write conforming packets crossing any network. It does not deal with storage and implementation questions. It does, however, discuss implementation issues necessary to avoid security flaws. OpenPGP software uses a combination of strong public-key and symmetric cryptography to provide security services for electronic communications and data storage. These services include confidentiality, key management, authentication, and digital signatures. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-5-9124819.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-17.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-5-9124819.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E5thS005048; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49E5tcs005047; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E5sUE005041 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 07:05:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k49E5ik24386; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:44 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49E8Uh8006395; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:08:30 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k49E5cur024332; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k49E5cDq024331; Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:05:38 -0400 From: David Shaw To: Jon Callas Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Re: bis-16 comments Message-ID: <20060509140538.GB24267@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon Callas , ietf-openpgp@imc.org References: <20060426031250.GA11005@jabberwocky.com> <5E8B7F7D-6CE1-4F5F-98DE-31E61B13D2D4@callas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E8B7F7D-6CE1-4F5F-98DE-31E61B13D2D4@callas.org> OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 02:52:30PM -0700, Jon Callas wrote: > >In section 9.3. Compression Algorithms, suggest adding: > > > > Algorithm 0, "uncompressed," may only be used to denote a > > preference for uncompressed data in the preferred compression > > algorithms subpacket (section 5.2.3.9). Implementations MUST NOT > > use uncompressed in Compressed Data Packets. > > > >(We had the same problem with using cipher algorithm 0 in encrypted > >data packets, and made that MUST NOT as well) > > > > I want to quibble over this one. > > The reason we don't allow 0 in encrypted packets is because we don't > want to have "encrypted" data. It's a security reason. There's no > security reason here. While it's perhaps stupid to make a compressed > packet that has no compression (you could just have a literal > packet), there is no *security* reason to object to it. > > Also, there's no particular code reason to object to it, either; you > have to handle the case, and rather than error out, why not just > proceed? You're right. It's better left out. David Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49DV4k6003801; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k49DV4t3003800; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ihtfp.org (MAIL.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.6]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k49DV3ZY003793 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 06:31:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from warlord@MIT.EDU) Received: from cliodev.pgp.com (CLIODEV.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cliodev.ihtfp.com", Issuer "IHTFP Consulting Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mail.ihtfp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7389BD8387; Tue, 9 May 2006 09:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from warlord@localhost) by cliodev.pgp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k49DUpmI030603; Tue, 9 May 2006 09:30:51 -0400 From: Derek Atkins To: Jon Callas Cc: OpenPGP Subject: Re: bis17 is out References: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 09:30:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> (Jon Callas's message of "Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:01 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Jon Callas writes: > It includes all the changes to bis16, as well as one other; a new > section to 12. > > The problem is that OpenPGP uses PKCS#1, and the most recent PKCS#1 > RFC, 3447 changes some conventions. For our purposes, the obsoleted > one, 2437, is most correct. Normative references to an obsolete RFC > are a problem, so we put in a section to describe how we do it, while > making proper reference to 3447. > > As part of this, I changed all uses of "PKCS-1" to "PKCS#1" as that > seems to be the most proper thing to call it. I missed one of these, > which will be changed in bis18. It seems like we've made it through WGLC with no substantive issues. So I hereby call 2440bis "done". I'll formerly request that Sam present it to the IESG later this week. Jon, if you intend to issue a bis18 then I'll wait, but if it's just a simple edit we could send bis17 with the editor note to make the change you missed. Please let me know your intension. > Jon -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M4QrK066729; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k48M4QEA066728; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M4PUm066714 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7) for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 08 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 08 May 2006 15:04:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) References: <192E2551-1E74-478E-969F-D84AE29E2D24@callas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7C98DD8C-6F6C-461E-8A13-5B848CE04060@callas.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Fwd: Mistake in section 5.3, also in RFC2440 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:04:20 -0700 To: OpenPGP X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: I forgot to reply-all Jon Begin forwarded message: > From: Jon Callas > Date: 8 May 2006 2:40:03 PM PDT > To: Hal Finney > Subject: Re: Mistake in section 5.3, also in RFC2440 > > > On 25 Apr 2006, at 7:28 PM, Hal Finney wrote: > >> >> I noticed that the language in section 5.3 on Symmetric-Key Encrypted >> Session Key packets is not right: >> >> 5.3. Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key Packets (Tag 3) >> >> The Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key packet holds the >> symmetric-key encryption of a session key used to encrypt a >> message. >> Zero or more Encrypted Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key >> Encrypted Session Key packets may precede a Symmetrically >> Encrypted >> Data Packet that holds an encrypted message. >> >> The second sentence should begin "Zero or more Public-Key Encrypted >> Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session Key >> Packets..." >> It left off "Public-Key" and just refers to "Encrypted Session Key >> packets" which is not a packet type. In particular, referring to >> "Encrypted Session Key packets and/or Symmetric-Key Encrypted Session >> Key Packets" is incoherent. >> >> The langage in 5.1, for comparsion: >> >> 5.1. Public-Key Encrypted Session Key Packets (Tag 1) >> >> A Public-Key Encrypted Session Key packet holds the session >> key used >> to encrypt a message. Zero or more Encrypted Session Key packets >> (either Public-Key or Symmetric-Key) may precede a Symmetrically >> Encrypted Data Packet, which holds an encrypted message. >> >> This is not ideal in terms of the packet names; you have to mentally >> move the prefixes listed in the parenthesis up and put them in >> front of >> Encrypted Session Key. But given that slight lapse in clarity, it is >> basically correct, and is not as bad as 5.3. >> >> All this language is unchanged since RFC2440. >> >> I do think we should fix at least 5.3, because the present wording is >> meaningless and confusing. If we do that I'd suggest changing the >> 2nd >> sentence of 5.1 to match that of 5.3. >> >> Hal Finney >> > > Done. > > Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M34xV066645; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k48M34Uh066644; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48M33Tm066638 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7) for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 08 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 08 May 2006 15:03:02 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2BD4342B-725E-4A66-B29B-0FFD44F90A78@callas.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: OpenPGP From: Jon Callas Subject: bis17 is out Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:03:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: It includes all the changes to bis16, as well as one other; a new section to 12. The problem is that OpenPGP uses PKCS#1, and the most recent PKCS#1 RFC, 3447 changes some conventions. For our purposes, the obsoleted one, 2437, is most correct. Normative references to an obsolete RFC are a problem, so we put in a section to describe how we do it, while making proper reference to 3447. As part of this, I changed all uses of "PKCS-1" to "PKCS#1" as that seems to be the most proper thing to call it. I missed one of these, which will be changed in bis18. Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48LqcT9066126; Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k48Lqcbv066125; Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k48Lqbuf066119 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7); Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:35 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 08 May 2006 14:52:35 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 08 May 2006 14:52:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060426031250.GA11005@jabberwocky.com> References: <20060426031250.GA11005@jabberwocky.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E8B7F7D-6CE1-4F5F-98DE-31E61B13D2D4@callas.org> Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: bis-16 comments Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:52:30 -0700 To: David Shaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On 25 Apr 2006, at 8:12 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Section 5.1.2, Signature Types, says: > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which are > specified in a signature type octet in any given signature. See > section 5.2.4, "Computing Signatures," for detailed information on > how to compute and verify signatures of each type. > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which may > be indicated in a signature type octet in any given signature. > Please note that the vagueness of these meanings is not a flaw, > but > a feature of the system. Because OpenPGP places final authority > for > validity upon the receiver of a signature, it may be that one > signer's casual act might be more rigorous than some other > authority's positive act. > > The two opening sentences are redundant. Suggest: > > There are a number of possible meanings for a signature, which are > indicated in a signature type octet in any given signature. > Please note that the vagueness of these meanings is not a flaw, > but a feature of the system. Because OpenPGP places final > authority > for validity upon the receiver of a signature, it may be that one > signer's casual act might be more rigorous than some other > authority's positive act. See section 5.2.4, "Computing > Signatures," for detailed information on how to compute and verify > signatures of each type. > > (Combining the two) > Done. > ******************* > > Section 5.2.2, Version 3 Signature Packet Format has a sentence that > reads "The details of the calculation are different for DSA signature > than for RSA signatures." That should be "DSA signatures" (plural). > Done. > ******************* > > In section 5.2.3.12. Revocable, the second sentence reads "Packet body > contains a Boolean flag indicating whether the signature is > revocable." Suggest adding a "The" to read "The packet body > contains..." > Done. > ******************* > > In section 9.3. Compression Algorithms, suggest adding: > > Algorithm 0, "uncompressed," may only be used to denote a > preference for uncompressed data in the preferred compression > algorithms subpacket (section 5.2.3.9). Implementations MUST NOT > use uncompressed in Compressed Data Packets. > > (We had the same problem with using cipher algorithm 0 in encrypted > data packets, and made that MUST NOT as well) > I want to quibble over this one. The reason we don't allow 0 in encrypted packets is because we don't want to have "encrypted" data. It's a security reason. There's no security reason here. While it's perhaps stupid to make a compressed packet that has no compression (you could just have a literal packet), there is no *security* reason to object to it. Also, there's no particular code reason to object to it, either; you have to handle the case, and rather than error out, why not just proceed? Since these are the last call edits and this change could cause code changes -- someone who was handing compression-uncompressed would now have to make this an error, I'm not taking the edit. > ******************* > > In section 10.2. OpenPGP Messages, the paragraph beginning "In > addition, decrypting a Symmetrically Encrypted Data Packet" has a > blank line in the middle of the paragraph. > Done. > ******************* > > Section 12.5, DSA, has a sentence that reads "It MUST NOT implement a > DSA signature with a q size of less than 160 bits." That should be a > "DSA key" rather than a "DSA signature". > Done. > ******************* > > Section 13, Security Considerations says: > > * SHA384 requires the same work as SHA512. In general, there are > few reasons to use it -- you need a situation where one needs > more security than SHA256, but does not want to have the 512-bit > data length. > > Suggest: > > * SHA224 and SHA384 require the same work as SHA256 and SHA512 > respectively. In general, there are few reasons to use them > outside of DSS compatibility. You need a situation where one > needs more security than smaller hashes, but does not want to > have the full 256-bit or 512-bit data length. > Done, but I made them "SHA-" because if I don't, you'll find that nit in IETF Last Call. :-) > David > Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454Llff036709; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k454LlbY036708; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454LiZC036701 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 21:21:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k454Lgk27615; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:42 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k454OBfd024241; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:24:11 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k454LZ1F021833; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:35 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k454LZsj021832; Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 00:21:34 -0400 From: David Shaw To: Jon Callas Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Re: Last minute language nit on clear signing Message-ID: <20060505042134.GA21317@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon Callas , ietf-openpgp@imc.org References: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 04:52:43PM -0700, Jon Callas wrote: > > > On 3 May 2006, at 3:30 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > > > >Squeaking in under the wire. > > > >Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: > > > > It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII > > armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable > > without special software. > > > >Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." > > > >(i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). > > > > That really is a nit, and one that I disagree with. I will also admit > to crotchetiness today. > > Saying "X is desirable" does not imply "~X is undesirable." There is > a middle ground between, "It's desirable to be able to park at the > airport" and "Taxis should be banned." Saying, I like ice cream does > not imply that I hate flan. I read that 'graph as saying > "Clearsigning, good." That's it. The text struck me as implying "Clearsigning, you should" (as in it is desirable to clearsign in preference to the other type of signing). Total nit, of course, and I doubt anyone actually thinks that, but there was a small "huh?" pause when I read past that section. > Here's a counterproposal: "It is desirable to be able to sign..." > thus explicitly saying that it's an option. How's that? Better, worse > than yours? Or should we just leave it as is? I like your solution better. David Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k44NqmRJ024344; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k44NqmjT024343; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (merrymeet.com [63.73.97.162]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k44NqlDN024337 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (63.73.97.166) by merrymeet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server X 3.2.7); Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 Received: from [63.251.255.205] ([63.251.255.205]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Thu, 04 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Thu, 04 May 2006 16:52:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> References: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <042750D2-D25F-4982-ABD1-42CA51D7F3C5@callas.org> Cc: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jon Callas Subject: Re: Last minute language nit on clear signing Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:52:43 -0700 To: David Shaw X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On 3 May 2006, at 3:30 PM, David Shaw wrote: > > Squeaking in under the wire. > > Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: > > It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII > armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable > without special software. > > Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." > > (i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). > That really is a nit, and one that I disagree with. I will also admit to crotchetiness today. Saying "X is desirable" does not imply "~X is undesirable." There is a middle ground between, "It's desirable to be able to park at the airport" and "Taxis should be banned." Saying, I like ice cream does not imply that I hate flan. I read that 'graph as saying "Clearsigning, good." That's it. Here's a counterproposal: "It is desirable to be able to sign..." thus explicitly saying that it's an option. How's that? Better, worse than yours? Or should we just leave it as is? Jon Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MUPE3050595; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k43MUPS4050594; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from foobar.cs.jhu.edu (foobar.cs.jhu.edu [128.220.13.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MUOT7050586 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 15:30:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.60.132.70]) by foobar.cs.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k43MUGk17987 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:16 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [172.24.84.28]) by walrus.hsd1.ma.comcast.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k43MWeBN012833 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:32:40 -0400 Received: from grover.jabberwocky.com (grover.jabberwocky.com [127.0.0.1]) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k43MUACQ019218 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 Received: (from dshaw@localhost) by grover.jabberwocky.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k43MUAJ6019217 for ietf-openpgp@imc.org; Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 18:30:10 -0400 From: David Shaw To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: Last minute language nit on clear signing Message-ID: <20060503223010.GD18898@jabberwocky.com> Mail-Followup-To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OpenPGP: id=99242560; url=http://www.jabberwocky.com/david/keys.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Squeaking in under the wire. Section 7, Cleartext signature framework says: It is desirable to sign a textual octet stream without ASCII armoring the stream itself, so the signed text is still readable without special software. Suggest "It is sometimes desirable to sign ..." (i.e. add a "sometimes". It's not always desirable to clearsign). David Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k41Fog1u001652; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k41FogXt001651; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ihtfp.org (MAIL.IHTFP.ORG [204.107.200.6]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k41FofZC001636 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from warlord@MIT.EDU) Received: from cliodev.pgp.com (c-68-61-71-137.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.61.71.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cliodev.ihtfp.com", Issuer "IHTFP Consulting Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mail.ihtfp.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B39BD8378 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 11:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from warlord@localhost) by cliodev.pgp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k41FTMsb005922; Mon, 1 May 2006 11:29:22 -0400 From: Derek Atkins To: ietf-openpgp@imc.org Subject: REMINDER: WGLC: draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16 ends THIS WED References: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:29:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Derek Atkins's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:17:08 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Just a reminder that the WGLC ends THIS WEDNESDAY! That means you have just two more days to read and comment on this draft. -derek Derek Atkins writes: > Hi, all > > As you've noticed, bis16 has been released. I believe that there > are no open issues with this version, so I hereby initiate a > Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16 > to end two weeks from today at Wednesday, May 3, 2006. Please > get your comments in by 7pm US/EDT (2300Z). > > You can obtain the draft from: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-openpgp-rfc2440bis-16.txt > > Please send comments to me and either to the editor and/or to the list. > > Thanks! > > -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant