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UmFuZG9tSVb4thE3GVk73U5BUOgvwXXq9g7OGBn790rC0pS+W1aTDhksBMBI/bQ0BG4Mh3mGcNLQuD3ZynPl5VdWfejTOl6Y7h4DPzuG6SA= X-Sonic-ID: C;6oukIP8x5xGjvCzL7bdh1w== M;NBXSJP8x5xGjvCzL7bdh1w== X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 01:56:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_23EF09F1-9C0B-40E8-99AA-F75AE8D1EB99 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A04FF611-5C60-46C1-860B-EAFA652BB041" --Apple-Mail=_A04FF611-5C60-46C1-860B-EAFA652BB041 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and working = with other co-authors to resolve. If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would like to discuss, let me know. - merike > On May 4, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Authors from draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG, >=20 > There has been significant discussion during WGLC for this document = and during the process indications that group consensus is on some = topics is not reached yet. > Last message from Merike indicates that draft authors will work on = capturing all comments and resolve them with =E2=80=98group = consensus=E2=80=99. >=20 > I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated document and check with authors = and WG when time is ready for a fresh WGLC. >=20 > G/ >=20 > From: OPSEC > = on behalf of Gunter Van De Velde > > Date: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 at 09:39 > To: "opsec@ietf.org " > > Subject: [ALU] [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 >=20 > This is to open a two week WGLC for = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 = . > If you have not read it, please do so now. You may send nits to the = author, but substantive discussion should go to the list. >=20 >=20 > I will close the call on 26 April 2017 >=20 >=20 > G/ > Sent from iCloud > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec = --Apple-Mail=_A04FF611-5C60-46C1-860B-EAFA652BB041 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and = working with other co-authors to resolve.

If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would = like to discuss, let me know.  

- merike

On = May 4, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) = <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:

Hi Authors from draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG,
 
There has been significant discussion during WGLC for this = document and during the process indications that group consensus is on = some topics is not reached yet.
Last message from Merike indicates that draft = authors will work on capturing all comments and resolve them with = =E2=80=98group consensus=E2=80=99.
 
I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated document and = check with authors and WG when time is ready for a fresh WGLC.
 
G/
 
From: OPSEC <opsec-bounces@ietf.org> = on behalf of Gunter Van De Velde <guntervandeveldecc@icloud.com>
Date: Wednesday, 12 April = 2017 at 09:39
To: "opsec@ietf.org" <opsec@ietf.org>
Subject: [ALU] [OPSEC] WGLC for = draft-ietf-opsec-v6
 
This is to open a two week WGLC for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6.
If you have not read it, please do so now. You may send nits = to the author, but substantive discussion should go to the = list.


I will close the call on 26 April 2017


G/ 
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If you need further reviews, I volunteer for that. Since I haven't looked at the I-F for a while, it would count as a "fresh review", I guess. Thanks! Cheers, Fernando El 6/5/2017 03:56, "Merike Kaeo" escribi=C3= =B3: > Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and working wit= h > other co-authors to resolve. > > If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would like to discuss, let me know. > > - merike > > On May 4, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) < > gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote: > > Hi Authors from draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG, > > There has been significant discussion during WGLC for this document and > during the process indications that group consensus is on some topics is > not reached yet. > Last message from Merike indicates that draft authors will work on > capturing all comments and resolve them with =E2=80=98group consensus=E2= =80=99. > > I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated document and check with authors an= d WG when > time is ready for a fresh WGLC. > > G/ > > *From: *OPSEC on behalf of Gunter Van De Velde < > guntervandeveldecc@icloud.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, 12 April 2017 at 09:39 > *To: *"opsec@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[ALU] [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 > > This is to open a two week WGLC for https://tools.ietf.org/ > html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6. > If you have not read it, please do so now. You may send nits to the > author, but substantive discussion should go to the list. > > > I will close the call on 26 April 2017 > > > G/ > > Sent from iCloud > > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > > > > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > > --94eb2c12560a97bc75054edb4336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,

I did= a thorough review of at least half of the document a while a go. If you ne= ed further reviews, I volunteer for that.

=
Since I haven't looked at the I-F for a while, it wou= ld count as a "fresh review", I guess.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Fernando




El 6/5/2017 03:56, &quo= t;Merike Kaeo" <me= rike@doubleshotsecurity.com> escribi=C3=B3:
=
Just as = Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and working with other co= -authors to resolve.

If anyone is at RIPE meeting and wo= uld like to discuss, let me know. =C2=A0

- merike<= /div>

On May 4, 2017, at 11:39 = PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com= > wrote:

Hi Authors from draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG,<= /span>
=C2=A0
There has been significant discussion during= WGLC for this document and during the process indications that group conse= nsus is on some topics is not reached yet.
Last message = from Merike indicates that draft authors will work on capturing all comment= s and resolve them with =E2=80=98group consensus=E2=80=99.
=C2=A0
I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated documen= t and check with authors and WG when time is ready for a fresh WGLC.=
=C2=A0
G/
=C2=A0=
From:=C2=A0OPSEC <opsec-boun= ces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gunter Van De Velde <guntervandeveldecc@icloud.com>
Da= te:=C2=A0Wednesday, 12 April 2017 at 09:39
To:=C2=A0"opsec@ietf.org" <opsec@ietf.or= g>
Subject:=C2=A0[ALU] [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6=
=C2=A0
<= /div>
This is to open a two week WGLC for=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-= v6.
If you have not read it, please= do so now. You may send nits to the author, but substantive discussion sho= uld go to the list.
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I will close the call on 26 April 2017<= u>


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<1494098881.15550.37.camel@inet.tu-berlin.de> To: Tobias Fiebig X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVas0mzOHO5TzD2HwCWcKuZNlu/evINM4sw48Exenimmxhxi+i2mScCX9eYikkTekzOcyPYf7zWS5hZ0GG4Vt+wk X-Sonic-ID: C;LnfNUBEz5xGyfyzL7bdh1w== M;FqXoUREz5xGyfyzL7bdh1w== X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [ALU] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 10:38:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EB5469A4-9AC1-4FD6-A600-2C7A52E55B55 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thank you Tobias - indeed a thorough read and great comments that we as = co-authors will be looking to get concensus on. - merike > On May 6, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Tobias Fiebig = wrote: >=20 > Heho, >=20 > On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 18:54 -0700, Merike Kaeo wrote: >> Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and working >> with other co-authors to resolve. >>=20 >> If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would like to discuss, let me know. >=20 > As discussed at the last IETF I gave -11 of the document a review an > have some comments. Please find an inline-commented version attached. >=20 > With best Regards, > Tobias >=20 > -- > Tobias Fiebig building MAR, 4th floor, room 4.003 > Fachgebiet INET - Sekr. 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With all the comments received so far I want to consolidate = them all and address all the points with co-authors, then bring to list = to ensure that there=E2=80=99s wg concensus on what changes are = necessary. So a fresh review soon would be welcome. - merike > On May 6, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Fernando Gont = wrote: >=20 > Folks, >=20 > I did a thorough review of at least half of the document a while a go. = If you need further reviews, I volunteer for that. >=20 > Since I haven't looked at the I-F for a while, it would count as a = "fresh review", I guess. >=20 > Thanks! > Cheers, > Fernando >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > El 6/5/2017 03:56, "Merike Kaeo" > escribi=C3=B3: > Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and working = with other co-authors to resolve. >=20 > If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would like to discuss, let me know. >=20 > - merike >=20 >> On May 4, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - = BE/Antwerp) > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Authors from draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG, >>=20 >> There has been significant discussion during WGLC for this document = and during the process indications that group consensus is on some = topics is not reached yet. >> Last message from Merike indicates that draft authors will work on = capturing all comments and resolve them with =E2=80=98group = consensus=E2=80=99. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated document and check with = authors and WG when time is ready for a fresh WGLC. >>=20 >> G/ >>=20 >> From: OPSEC > = on behalf of Gunter Van De Velde > >> Date: Wednesday, 12 April 2017 at 09:39 >> To: "opsec@ietf.org " > >> Subject: [ALU] [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6 >>=20 >> This is to open a two week WGLC for = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 = . >> If you have not read it, please do so now. You may send nits to the = author, but substantive discussion should go to the list. >>=20 >>=20 >> I will close the call on 26 April 2017 >>=20 >>=20 >> G/ >> Sent from iCloud >> _______________________________________________ >> OPSEC mailing list >> OPSEC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec = >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec = >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8A6FC770-7BFF-4A6F-AAA3-F111FCF1F359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 At this time I want to encourage a thorough review and list = any comments.  With all the comments received so far I want to = consolidate them all and address all the points with co-authors, then = bring to list to ensure that there=E2=80=99s wg concensus on what = changes are necessary.

So a fresh review soon would be welcome.  

- merike

On May 6, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:

Folks,

I did a thorough review of at least half of the = document a while a go. If you need further reviews, I volunteer for = that.

Since I haven't looked at the I-F for a while, = it would count as a "fresh review", I guess.

Thanks!
Cheers,
Fernando





El 6/5/2017 03:56, "Merike Kaeo" = <merike@doubleshotsecurity.com> escribi=C3=B3:
Just as Ack re capturing all the comments and discusisons and = working with other co-authors to resolve.

If anyone is at RIPE meeting and would = like to discuss, let me know.  

- merike

On May 4, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - = BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:

Hi Authors from = draft-ietf-opsec-v6 and OPSEC WG,
 
There has been significant discussion during WGLC for this = document and during the process indications that group consensus is on = some topics is not reached yet.
Last message = from Merike indicates that draft authors will work on capturing all = comments and resolve them with =E2=80=98group consensus=E2=80=99.
 
I=E2=80=99ll be waiting for an updated document and check = with authors and WG when time is ready for a fresh WGLC.
 
G/
 
From: = OPSEC <opsec-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Gunter Van De = Velde <guntervandeveldecc@icloud.com>
Date: Wed= nesday, 12 April 2017 at 09:39
To: "opsec@ietf.org" <opsec@ietf.org>
Subject: [AL= U] [OPSEC] WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-v6
 
This is to open a two week WGLC for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6.
If you have = not read it, please do so now. You may send nits to the author, but = substantive discussion should go to the list.


I will close = the call on 26 April 2017


G/ 
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2ab5d82f-d8fa-4797-a93e-054655c61dec X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM2PR09MB0447 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [OPSEC] [GROW] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-sriram-opsec-urpf-improvements-00.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 21:45:39 -0000 Jeff: I am responding to your comments from November 2016 (copied below): https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/grow/current/msg03726.html (Jeff) Thanks for your comments. I have tweaked your wording to add a new Section 3.4 in the new version -01, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sriram-opsec-urpf-improvements-01 , which reads as follows: 3.4. Implementation Consideration The existing RPF checks in edge routers take advantage of existing line card implementations to perform the RPF functions. For implementation of the proposed technique, the general necessary feature would be to extend the line cards to take arbitrary RPF lists that are not necessarily tied to the existing FIB contents. For example, in the proposed method, the RPF lists are constructed by applying a set of rules to all received BGP routes (not just those selected as best path and installed in FIB). Thank you. Further comments welcome. Sriram Jeff Haas wrote Wed, 16 Nov 2016 00:17:39 >On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 06:59:53PM +0000, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) wro= te: >> > The data plane would perform the usual uRPF check: Does the SA in the = data packet=20 >> > belong in a prefix in the RPF list for the interface it was received o= n? >>=20 >> This, actually, is not "the usual uRPF check". >>=20 >> Having implementations that could tack arbitrary "RPF lists" to an=20 >> interface would be very nice, but this is more like "auto-generate ACLs >> based on prefix info" than "RPF" which stands for "reverse path filter" >> (not sure about the "filter" bit, though) > >This summarizes my hallway feedback to Sriram. > >As noted during mic chat, the existing RPF checks take advantage of existi= ng >line card implementations to do their thing. The general necessary featur= e >would be to extend the line cards to take arbitrary lists that may have >nothing to do with the existing FIB contents. > >-- Jeff >