Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pmol-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1770D3A68EC; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:45:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C643C3A6811 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.138 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.138 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.461, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mdR1hp9SfX9y for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAF93A690B for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:45:17 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,708,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="132946097" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2008 06:45:20 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,708,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="217678362" Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2008 06:45:19 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:45:18 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt Thread-Index: AcjXebmsd//Qzt2eRmCj/WusMmtLYg== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [PMOL] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pmol-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:30 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Performance Metrics for Other Layers Working Group of the IETF. Title : SIP End-to-End Performance Metrics Author(s) : D. Malas Filename : draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2008-6-25 This document defines a set of metrics and their usage to evaluate the performance of end-to-end Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) based services in both production and testing environments. The purpose of this document is to combine a set of common metrics, allowing interoperable performance measurements, easing the comparison of industry implementations. 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Malas Filename : draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2008-6-25 This document defines a set of metrics and their usage to evaluate the performance of end-to-end Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) based services in both production and testing environments. The purpose of this document is to combine a set of common metrics, allowing interoperable performance measurements, easing the comparison of industry implementations. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-01.txt There has been discussion of this draft for 2 years, first in the SIPPING WG, and then in the PMOL WG. The Author believes he has addressed all comments to date. Please weigh-in on whether or not this Draft should be forwarded to the Area Directors for publication as a Standards Track RFC. Send your comments to the PMOL list or the co-chairs. The Last Call will be open till July 25, 2008. thanks for your review and comments, Alan and Al co-chairs, PMOL WG _______________________________________________ PMOL mailing list PMOL@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pmol-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8343A68D5; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:37:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9D128C124; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.371 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, CN_BODY_41=0.118, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_52=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_62=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ynuq7-L33Vt5; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3-61.sinamail.sina.com.cn (r3-61.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.61]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEEF3A68A7; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail3-61.sinamail.sina.com.cn (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0C8EBBF8C45; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:36:51 +0800 (CST) Received: from Sina WebMail (gyzhang@sina.com|211.167.85.40) Received: from [211.167.85.40] by mail3-61.sinamail.sina.com.cn via HTTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:36:51 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:36:51 +0800 From: gyzhang@sina.com To: ippm@ietf.org, pmol@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, henk@ripe.net, acmorton@att.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-OriginaIP: 202.108.3.61 X-Mailer: Sina WebMail 4.0 Message-Id: <20080625033651.0C8EBBF8C45@mail3-61.sinamail.sina.com.cn> Cc: otani@kddilabs.jp, zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn, rpapneja@isocore.com, gjhhit@huawei.com, jingrq@ctbri.com.cn, sunwq@sjtu.edu.cn, BGu@ixiacom.com, xqwei@fiberhome.com.cn, blithe@sjtu.edu.cn Subject: [PMOL] LSP DPPM draft updated. 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I am resending this email from my Gmail account. Sorry if you receive multiple copies of this. Best regards, Weiqiang Sun Shanghai Jiao Tong University -------------------------------------------------- From: "Weiqiang Sun" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:15 PM To: "Henk Uijterwaal" ; "IETF IPPM WG" ; Cc: Subject: Re: [PMOL] FW: [bmwg] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance metrics draft inCCAMP > Hi Henk, > > Many thanks for going through the draft and for the comments. > Please see online for my responses. > > Best regards, > Weiqiang > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Henk Uijterwaal" > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:04 PM > To: "IETF IPPM WG" ; > Cc: ; "Weiqiang Sun" > Subject: Re: [PMOL] FW: [bmwg] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance > metrics draft inCCAMP > >> Hi all, >> >>> Hi IPPMers and BMWGers, >> >>> Recently the LSP dynamic provisioning performance draft is adopted as a >>> working item of CCAMP. >> >> Some comments, reading this as a non-expert on GMPLS. >> >> 3.4. Units. >> >> I don't think this is quite correct: you start to measure at T1 and >> wait for the setup to complete. However, it doesn't, so at some point >> you become bored and stop the measurement. You report undefined. >> However, one then has to report in the metrics parameters when the >> measurement will be stopped. This value should be added to the >> metrics parameters. (Note: this will apply to more metrics). > Yes I agree that this parameter is very important and should be carefully > chosen, provided that different switching technologies may differ > drastically in the delay when performing switching operations. For this > reason we have a little bit discussion regarding this threshhold: > o A given methodology will have to include a way to determine > whether a latency value is infinite or whether it is merely very > large. Simple upper bounds could be used. But GMPLS networks may > accommodate many kinds of devices. For example, some photonic > cross-connects (PXCs) have to move the micro mirrors. This > physical motion may take several milliseconds. But the common > electronic switches finish the nodal process within several > microseconds. So the unidirectional LSP setup delay varies > drastically from a network to another. In practice, the upper > bound should be chosen carefully. > However, I think it is a good idea to put this parameter in the "metric > parameter" section. This also makes the results more reasonable, since > different threshholds may lead to different results. > >> >> 4.3. Metrics Parameters. >> In IPPM speak, Lamba refers to a rate but it also specifies a >> distribution >> for the interval between probe packets. For example, poisson or >> periodic. >> The draft should mention which distribution to use. > We did define poisson arrival process for the lambda. However, it may be > interesting to add some more arrival statistical models (with periodic as > an example). We will consider this in the next revision. > >> >> 12.1. Statistics. >> I think you better report the 5th or 10th percentile of the >> distributions, > Yes we do have the percentile of metric in 12.3, although we do not > specify which exact value should be used. > >> rather than the minimum (and the same for the maximum). This excludes >> data points where something went wrong in the measurement process. > I think it is reasonable to keep the minimum value as this in normal cases > can reflect the least amount of time needed to set up/release an LSP > (something that is pretty much inherent for the control plane). And I > agree that we don't need the maximum. Luckily enough we do not have one in > the current version. :) > > Anyway, I find a little mistake in 12.3: > Given a metric and a percent X between 0% and 100%, the Xth > percentile of all the dT values in the sample. In addition, the > unidirectional LSP setup delay percentile is undefined if the sample > is empty. > It will be changed into: > Given a metric and a percent X between 0% and 100%, the Xth > percentile of all the dT values in the sample. In addition, the > percentile is undefined if the sample is empty. > > >> >> Henk >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Henk Uijterwaal Email: >> henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net >> RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk >> P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 >> 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 >> The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Is one of the choices leaving the office open? >> Alan Greenspan on the next >> elections >> _______________________________________________ PMOL mailing list PMOL@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pmol-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206E3A6B91; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958C03A6A49; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.767 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.767 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F05Ws5PrazQl; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail121.messagelabs.com (mail121.messagelabs.com [216.82.245.115]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225633A69CD; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: acmorton@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-121.messagelabs.com!1212693779!16360607!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.128.141] Received: (qmail 9886 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2008 19:23:00 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp9.sbc.com (HELO flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) (144.160.128.141) by server-14.tower-121.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Jun 2008 19:23:00 -0000 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55JMv1F001660; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:22:58 -0700 Received: from klph001.kcdc.att.com (klph001.kcdc.att.com [135.188.3.11]) by flph161.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55JMqUH001518; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:22:52 -0700 Received: from kcdc.att.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m55JMotv000941; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:22:52 -0500 Received: from maillennium.att.com (dns.maillennium.att.com [135.25.114.99]) by klph001.kcdc.att.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m55JMkvR000326; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200806051922.m55JMkvR000326@klph001.kcdc.att.com> Received: from acmt.att.com (unknown[135.210.112.118](misconfigured sender)) by maillennium.att.com (mailgw1) with SMTP id <20080605192245gw100l7ocme>; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:22:46 +0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:21:14 -0400 To: sunwq@sjtu.edu.cn, ccamp@ietf.org From: Al Morton In-Reply-To: <000001c8c168$2b657c90$823075b0$@edu.cn> References: <000001c8c168$2b657c90$823075b0$@edu.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: 'Rajiv Papneja' , ippm@ietf.org, 'xqwei' , pmol@ietf.org, 'zhangguoying' , sunwq@sjtu.edu.cn, 'Bin Gu' , bmwg@ietf.org, 'gjhhit' , 'blithe' Subject: Re: [PMOL] [ippm] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance metrics draft in CCAMP X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0594539723==" Sender: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pmol-bounces@ietf.org --===============0594539723== Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 04:44 AM 5/29/2008, Weiqiang Sun wrote:

The authors would now like to solicit comments among the performance metric experts, as this document contains notations that are commonly seen in IPPM and BMWG. The authors believe that your expertise can help us further improve this document, with regard to the definition of the metrics and the structure as well. Please send your comments directly to the authors, or, to the CCAMP working group mail list (ccamp@ops.ietf.org). We do appreciate your input.

As I've said in the past, this draft is an excellent start,
and because it adopts the metric template used in bmwg and ippm,
it's an easy read. Thanks for doing that part.

more below,
Al

General comments:
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There is a taxonomy of possible outcomes for set-up protocols.
Each set-up attempt will have one of the following outcomes:

1. Success
2. Failure
3. Incorrect Set-up (wrong destination)

The same basic outcomes apply to release attempts.

In the current text, the set-up time metrics cover the
Successful outcome (they could be called Successful *.* Setup Time).

When a setup attempt fails, the setup time is Undefined. Stop there.
Please remove the "informally infinite" phrase between
parentheses, because it places the failure outcome on the
same dimension as success. As I've pointed out above,
the 3 outcomes are mutually exclusive.  I know this text came
from IPPM RFCs, but this is a case where you should not follow
that precedent, IMHO.  For more nit-picking background, read
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-morton-ippm-reporting-metrics-05.txt

Back to the Failure Outcome.  I can imagine that there will be
technologies for which a metric on Setup Failure Ratio may be
more important than the Successful setup time - I may not care
if the setup takes 1 second or 10 seconds, but the 50% failure
ratio is annoying...

So, I propose to add metrics to cover the Failure outcome,
defined as a count of failures=Undefined setup times divided by the
total attempts. This would be a single outcome for a singleton
metric and a ratio for metrics with multiple LSP setups.
(I saw the metric in 12.4, it doesn't quite have the right wording
or emphasis - this metric should be a part of all setup and release
scenarios).

Adding metrics to cover the Incorrect setup/release outcome
would complete the taxonomy.  I can accept that the Incorrect
outcome may be quite rare in practice, but having the metric
defined and ready is a reasonable use of resources. You can
note that these outcomes may be rare in some technologies as
part of the discussion.

Specific Comments:
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(You can generalize these to all applicable sections)

3.3  Metric Parameters

  o  ID0, the ingress LSR ID

  o  ID1, the egress LSR ID

You should use these ID#s in the definition of the metric.

  o  T, a time

I've found that the two word description of a parameter is
not always sufficient for me.  I suggest:

  o  T, a time when the setup is attempted

I suggest to add a parameter, for clarity:

  o  WAITTIME, the maximum waiting time for successful setup

and mention this parameter in the sections where discussed,
like 3.5 and 3.6.

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13. Discussion

The control-plane-only nature of these metrics should be clear(er)
in the Introduction/Scope.

Question:
How important is it to have data-plane verification of the
apparent control-plane success/failure/incorrect performance?





--===============0594539723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ PMOL mailing list PMOL@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol --===============0594539723==-- Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pmol-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B51928C251; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7DB3A6828; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:15:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oJ2lVWotTW5q; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.sjtu.edu.cn (mx.sjtu.edu.cn [202.112.26.52]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F8A3A67B0; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.sjtu.edu.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id C436311F9EF; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:15:15 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at sjtu.edu.cn Received: from mx2.sjtu.edu.cn ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.sjtu.edu.cn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id if7qv9hRnaC9; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:15:14 +0800 (CST) Received: from Weiqiangx60s (222-151-092-079.jp.fiberbit.net [222.151.92.79]) (Authenticated sender: sunwq) by mx2.sjtu.edu.cn (Postfix) with ESMTP id A380011CAA0; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:15:11 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <5D784A1BFAC548DE8966B44F892F36BE@Weiqiangx60s> From: "Weiqiang Sun" To: "Henk Uijterwaal" , "IETF IPPM WG" , References: <4847BA19.5010501@ripe.net> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:15:04 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:49:36 -0700 Cc: pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] FW: [bmwg] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance metrics draft inCCAMP X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Hi Henk, Many thanks for going through the draft and for the comments. Please see online for my responses. Best regards, Weiqiang -------------------------------------------------- From: "Henk Uijterwaal" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:04 PM To: "IETF IPPM WG" ; Cc: ; "Weiqiang Sun" Subject: Re: [PMOL] FW: [bmwg] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance metrics draft inCCAMP > Hi all, > >> Hi IPPMers and BMWGers, > >> Recently the LSP dynamic provisioning performance draft is adopted as a >> working item of CCAMP. > > Some comments, reading this as a non-expert on GMPLS. > > 3.4. Units. > > I don't think this is quite correct: you start to measure at T1 and > wait for the setup to complete. However, it doesn't, so at some point > you become bored and stop the measurement. You report undefined. > However, one then has to report in the metrics parameters when the > measurement will be stopped. This value should be added to the > metrics parameters. (Note: this will apply to more metrics). Yes I agree that this parameter is very important and should be carefully chosen, provided that different switching technologies may differ drastically in the delay when performing switching operations. For this reason we have a little bit discussion regarding this threshhold: o A given methodology will have to include a way to determine whether a latency value is infinite or whether it is merely very large. Simple upper bounds could be used. But GMPLS networks may accommodate many kinds of devices. For example, some photonic cross-connects (PXCs) have to move the micro mirrors. This physical motion may take several milliseconds. But the common electronic switches finish the nodal process within several microseconds. So the unidirectional LSP setup delay varies drastically from a network to another. In practice, the upper bound should be chosen carefully. However, I think it is a good idea to put this parameter in the "metric parameter" section. This also makes the results more reasonable, since different threshholds may lead to different results. > > 4.3. Metrics Parameters. > In IPPM speak, Lamba refers to a rate but it also specifies a > distribution > for the interval between probe packets. For example, poisson or > periodic. > The draft should mention which distribution to use. We did define poisson arrival process for the lambda. However, it may be interesting to add some more arrival statistical models (with periodic as an example). We will consider this in the next revision. > > 12.1. Statistics. > I think you better report the 5th or 10th percentile of the > distributions, Yes we do have the percentile of metric in 12.3, although we do not specify which exact value should be used. > rather than the minimum (and the same for the maximum). This excludes > data points where something went wrong in the measurement process. I think it is reasonable to keep the minimum value as this in normal cases can reflect the least amount of time needed to set up/release an LSP (something that is pretty much inherent for the control plane). And I agree that we don't need the maximum. Luckily enough we do not have one in the current version. :) Anyway, I find a little mistake in 12.3: Given a metric and a percent X between 0% and 100%, the Xth percentile of all the dT values in the sample. In addition, the unidirectional LSP setup delay percentile is undefined if the sample is empty. It will be changed into: Given a metric and a percent X between 0% and 100%, the Xth percentile of all the dT values in the sample. In addition, the percentile is undefined if the sample is empty. > > Henk > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Henk Uijterwaal Email: > henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net > RIPE Network Coordination Centre > http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk > P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 > 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 > The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Is one of the choices leaving the office open? > Alan Greenspan on the next elections > _______________________________________________ PMOL mailing list PMOL@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol Return-Path: X-Original-To: pmol-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pmol-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB59928C133; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pmol@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B01128C126; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.207, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z8FEOiGjcXg0; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [193.0.19.2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D20828C102; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 03:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postman.ripe.net (Postfix, from userid 4008) id B08C923F6E; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from herring.ripe.net (herring.ripe.net [193.0.1.203]) by postman.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622DB23F55; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from guest-wv-25.ripe.net (gw.office.nsrp.ripe.net [193.0.1.126]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581A52F583; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4847BA19.5010501@ripe.net> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:04:09 +0200 From: Henk Uijterwaal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF IPPM WG , ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-RIPE-Spam-Level: X-RIPE-Spam-Tests: ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-RIPE-Spam-Status: N 0.000000 / -4.4 X-RIPE-Signature: 4ea9fc25ffee673f566b3451d340f94b Cc: Weiqiang Sun , pmol@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PMOL] FW: [bmwg] Soliciting comments on GMPLS performance metrics draft inCCAMP X-BeenThere: pmol@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance Metrics at Other Layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pmol-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, > Hi IPPMers and BMWGers, > Recently the LSP dynamic provisioning performance draft is adopted as a > working item of CCAMP. Some comments, reading this as a non-expert on GMPLS. 3.4. Units. I don't think this is quite correct: you start to measure at T1 and wait for the setup to complete. However, it doesn't, so at some point you become bored and stop the measurement. You report undefined. However, one then has to report in the metrics parameters when the measurement will be stopped. This value should be added to the metrics parameters. (Note: this will apply to more metrics). 4.3. Metrics Parameters. In IPPM speak, Lamba refers to a rate but it also specifies a distribution for the interval between probe packets. For example, poisson or periodic. The draft should mention which distribution to use. 12.1. Statistics. I think you better report the 5th or 10th percentile of the distributions, rather than the minimum (and the same for the maximum). This excludes data points where something went wrong in the measurement process. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections _______________________________________________ PMOL mailing list PMOL@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmol